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First perhaps, although Biden may not achieve such a thing0
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My modest bet on Trump's re-election last year is starting to look like a loser. I am delighted.3
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Neil Gorsuch for President.0
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However about 10% of voters still not voting for either Trump or Biden, if they all shift to Trump by polling day and he wins back a few from Biden it will be neck and neck again1
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So who will be the President come January, Harris or Rice?Omnium said:First perhaps, although Biden may not achieve such a thing
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And if wishes were horses beggars would ride.HYUFD said:However about 10% of voters still not voting for either Trump or Biden, if they all shift to Trump by polling day and he wins back a few from Biden it will be neck and neck again
I've been uncertain before, Hyufd, but the wheels seem to have come off the Donald. Biden is no great shakes but he looks a safe bet against The President. I've piled on now. I don't expect to be unloading.0 -
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Doesn't that rather turn on what you mean by 'another ethnic group'?HYUFD said:
For many of my relatives this would suggest anyone from outside Essex.0 -
There's possibly a little bit of value in selling Donald Trump beneath 200 electoral college votes now.0
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I don't think that's a secret?HYUFD said:
Providing cases don't soar in the next 2 weeks I expect that to happen.0 -
I draw the line at Lancastrians.Peter_the_Punter said:
Doesn't that rather turn on what you mean by 'another ethnic group'?HYUFD said:
For many of my relatives this would suggest anyone from outside Essex.2 -
I bow to your impressive knowledge of the US Presidential race, but can you see that happening with Trump's stock so low?HYUFD said:However about 10% of voters still not voting for either Trump or Biden, if they all shift to Trump by polling day and he wins back a few from Biden it will be neck and neck again
He needs something dramatic to stir the patriotic spirit. A very serious falling out with North Korea might be just the ticket. I wouldn't put it past him and his Fox News cronies either. For Trumps part, I am not sure he understands that actions have consequences, other than those which are advantageous to Trump.0 -
Confirming my opinion that Sturgeon and Drakesford are terrified of coming out of their stay at home mantra and creating untold future health and economic damage to Scotland and WalesHYUFD said:4 -
The poll of Red Wall voters is being trashed by some because of the messenger because it makes for uncomfortable reading !
It’s no surprise voters are very wary of a US trade deal and would rather have a closer trade relationship with the rest of Europe.0 -
I'd have it as 50% Trump, 45% Biden, and 5% someone else.Mexicanpete said:
So who will be the President come January, Harris or Rice?Omnium said:First perhaps, although Biden may not achieve such a thing
But I really don't believe in the Biden number - he's just not going to be President.0 -
We'll all be holidaying in Norn Iron this year then.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Confirming my opinion that Sturgeon and Drakesford are terrified of coming out of their stay at home mantra and creating untold future health and economic damage to Scotland and WalesHYUFD said:0 -
It's good to have standards.TheScreamingEagles said:
I draw the line at Lancastrians.Peter_the_Punter said:
Doesn't that rather turn on what you mean by 'another ethnic group'?HYUFD said:
For many of my relatives this would suggest anyone from outside Essex.0 -
It doesn’t matter what they want, because they’re getting what @HYUFD says they want.nico67 said:The poll of Red Wall voters is being trashed by some because of the messenger because it makes for uncomfortable reading !
It’s no surprise voters are very wary of a US trade deal and would rather have a closer trade relationship with the rest of Europe.0 -
I do have standards, it's just that they are lower than everybody else's standards.kle4 said:
It's good to have standards.TheScreamingEagles said:
I draw the line at Lancastrians.Peter_the_Punter said:
Doesn't that rather turn on what you mean by 'another ethnic group'?HYUFD said:
For many of my relatives this would suggest anyone from outside Essex.2 -
Yep, that's usually the Tories' job.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Confirming my opinion that Sturgeon and Drakesford are terrified of coming out of their stay at home mantra and creating untold future health and economic damage to Scotland and WalesHYUFD said:1 -
Absolutely right Big GBig_G_NorthWales said:
Confirming my opinion that Sturgeon and Drakesford are terrified of coming out of their stay at home mantra and creating untold future health and economic damage to Scotland and WalesHYUFD said:
Expect something similar to be announced for England this week, start date around 4 July.
Hotels, restaurants and cafes open.
Venues (including pubs) may serve alcohol only with food, inside.
Venues may serve alcohol without food, outside, probably with table service only.
Pubs basically selling alcohol only/inside drinking only/going up the bar not allowed at this stage. Probably by 3 August.
Scotland and Wales - you will be staying home!
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Expect Boris will do the same for EnglandCasino_Royale said:
We'll all be holidaying in Norn Iron this year then.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Confirming my opinion that Sturgeon and Drakesford are terrified of coming out of their stay at home mantra and creating untold future health and economic damage to Scotland and WalesHYUFD said:
However, Drakesford has stated he does not expect hotels and the leisure industry to open before September and at a stroke destroying thousands of jobs here in Wales and trashing holiday resorts such as Llandudno
I am hearing many more stories of anger in Wales about Englands freedoms and it is only going to deepen unless Drakesford comes to his senses1 -
This might not be a popular view on here, but I read this as both the UK and the EU wanting a deal. The mood music has changed. Both Boris and the EU Commission are waxing lyrical about it:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53048164
If I were to guess I'd say that both sides have agreed to make police co-operation a non-issue (some evidence of that today) and the EU will compromise on fishing and the UK on level-playing field.
A fudge will be agreed on supervisory governance.1 -
I do not want a US trade deal but we are leaving the EU on the 31st December 2020 as confirmed by the EU today so time for give and take on both sidesnico67 said:The poll of Red Wall voters is being trashed by some because of the messenger because it makes for uncomfortable reading !
It’s no surprise voters are very wary of a US trade deal and would rather have a closer trade relationship with the rest of Europe.0 -
Just a thought, but can one bet yet on the change in seats in the House in the 2022 midterms? People who think Biden will win might want to consider betting on a number of Democrat losses in the House, as happened in LBJ's, Carter's, Clinton's and Obama's first midterms.
LBJ -47
Carter -15
Clinton -54
Obama -630 -
Off topic.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Confirming my opinion that Sturgeon and Drakesford are terrified of coming out of their stay at home mantra and creating untold future health and economic damage to Scotland and WalesHYUFD said:
By this time next year we will see whether Johnson's throw of the dice or Welsh and Sottish caution was the way to go. I don't know which way it will go. If Wales and Scotland mitigate a second wave and England doesn't you may be eating your words.0 -
Careful, you don't want to go off half cocked like you you did for all those previous 'plans'.Ave_it said:
Absolutely right Big GBig_G_NorthWales said:
Confirming my opinion that Sturgeon and Drakesford are terrified of coming out of their stay at home mantra and creating untold future health and economic damage to Scotland and WalesHYUFD said:
Expect something similar to be announced for England this week, start date around 4 July.
Hotels, restaurants and cafes open.
Venues (including pubs) may serve alcohol only with food, inside.
Venues may serve alcohol without food, outside, probably with table service only.
Pubs basically selling alcohol only/inside drinking only/going up the bar not allowed at this stage. Probably by 3 August.
Scotland and Wales - you will be staying home!0 -
Scottish even!Mexicanpete said:
Off topic.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Confirming my opinion that Sturgeon and Drakesford are terrified of coming out of their stay at home mantra and creating untold future health and economic damage to Scotland and WalesHYUFD said:
By this time next year we will see whether Johnson's throw of the dice or Welsh and Sottish caution was the way to go. I don't know which way it will go. If Wales and Scotland mitigate a second wave and England doesn't you may be eating your words.0 -
Sturgeon and Drakesford are excelling in it at presentTheuniondivvie said:
Yep, that's usually the Tories' job.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Confirming my opinion that Sturgeon and Drakesford are terrified of coming out of their stay at home mantra and creating untold future health and economic damage to Scotland and WalesHYUFD said:0 -
We’ve already left the EU...Big_G_NorthWales said:
I do not want a US trade deal but we are leaving the EU on the 31st December 2020 as confirmed by the EU today so time for give and take on both sidesnico67 said:The poll of Red Wall voters is being trashed by some because of the messenger because it makes for uncomfortable reading !
It’s no surprise voters are very wary of a US trade deal and would rather have a closer trade relationship with the rest of Europe.0 -
Looks like Scotland will reopen on a similar basis as NI 3 July/England 4 July, on or around 15 July.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Expect Boris will do the same for EnglandCasino_Royale said:
We'll all be holidaying in Norn Iron this year then.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Confirming my opinion that Sturgeon and Drakesford are terrified of coming out of their stay at home mantra and creating untold future health and economic damage to Scotland and WalesHYUFD said:
However, Drakesford has stated he does not expect hotels and the leisure industry to open before September and at a stroke destroying thousands of jobs here in Wales and trashing holiday resorts such as Llandudno
I am hearing many more stories of anger in Wales about Englands freedoms and it is only going to deepen unless Drakesford comes to his senses
So really its only Drakeford who is dragging his feet, which is astonishing considering how important tourism is to Wales.
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If Biden does win it will very likely be a GOP Congress again in 2022, if Trump wins again however the House will likely see an increased Democratic majority and the Senate will also likely go DemocratFishing said:Just a thought, but can one bet yet on the change in seats in the House in the 2022 midterms? People who think Biden will win might want to consider betting on a number of Democrat losses in the House, as happened in LBJ's, Carter's, Clinton's and Obama's first midterms.
LBJ -47
Carter -15
Clinton -54
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I'd really like to explore Northern Ireland. I've never been. There was a trade show in Belfast later in the year I was looking at.Casino_Royale said:
We'll all be holidaying in Norn Iron this year then.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Confirming my opinion that Sturgeon and Drakesford are terrified of coming out of their stay at home mantra and creating untold future health and economic damage to Scotland and WalesHYUFD said:
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I have no doubt the pressure building up on Sturgeon and Drakesford, even from within their own countries, will result in them following England and Northern Ireland very quicklyMexicanpete said:
Off topic.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Confirming my opinion that Sturgeon and Drakesford are terrified of coming out of their stay at home mantra and creating untold future health and economic damage to Scotland and WalesHYUFD said:
By this time next year we will see whether Johnson's throw of the dice or Welsh and Sottish caution was the way to go. I don't know which way it will go. If Wales and Scotland mitigate a second wave and England doesn't you may be eating your words.
They just cannot get away with destroying their lucrative holiday and leisure industries while those in England and Northern Ireland take their business and flourish
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Don't think they'll put the markets up the 2022 House race until the 2020 House election has finished.Fishing said:Just a thought, but can one bet yet on the change in seats in the House in the 2022 midterms? People who think Biden will win might want to consider betting on a number of Democrat losses in the House, as happened in LBJ's, Carter's, Clinton's and Obama's first midterms.
LBJ -47
Carter -15
Clinton -54
Obama -633 -
The poll told us absolutely nothing other than Red Wall voters do not want to burn all bridges with Europe and ideally want a trade deal.nico67 said:The poll of Red Wall voters is being trashed by some because of the messenger because it makes for uncomfortable reading !
It’s no surprise voters are very wary of a US trade deal and would rather have a closer trade relationship with the rest of Europe.
It asked nothing about the single market, keeping free movement, a Canada style trade deal or WTO terms which would have been relevant0 -
Friday was Loving Day in the US (commemorating the US Supreme Court striking down miscegenation laws in the sixteen US States that still had them on the statute book). Incredible that those laws were still in place as recently as 1967. So a belated Happy Loving Day to any other PB Miscegenators.HYUFD said:3 -
What an utter [naughty word] this mutli tweet thread from this [another naughty word]
https://twitter.com/TSEofPB/status/1272595055979700224
https://twitter.com/NomadicGiraffe/status/12708286582493020160 -
The fact that they'd even expect their mits all over our territorial waters after leaving is impertinent. Even if they make zero demands on fishing, it is still not worth signing up to continuing EU regulation ad infinitum.Casino_Royale said:This might not be a popular view on here, but I read this as both the UK and the EU wanting a deal. The mood music has changed. Both Boris and the EU Commission are waxing lyrical about it:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53048164
If I were to guess I'd say that both sides have agreed to make police co-operation a non-issue (some evidence of that today) and the EU will compromise on fishing and the UK on level-playing field.
A fudge will be agreed on supervisory governance.0 -
To be honest the polls are irrelevantHYUFD said:
The poll told us absolutely nothing other than Red Wall voters do not want to burn all bridges with Europe and ideally want a trade deal.nico67 said:The poll of Red Wall voters is being trashed by some because of the messenger because it makes for uncomfortable reading !
It’s no surprise voters are very wary of a US trade deal and would rather have a closer trade relationship with the rest of Europe.
It asked nothing about the single market, keeping free movement, a Canada style trade deal or WTO terms which would have been relevant
We have left and the EU confirmed today that we leave on the 31st December 20200 -
No, we have left the EU. What we will be exiting is the single market, which we have remained in temporarily.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I do not want a US trade deal but we are leaving the EU on the 31st December 2020 as confirmed by the EU today so time for give and take on both sidesnico67 said:The poll of Red Wall voters is being trashed by some because of the messenger because it makes for uncomfortable reading !
It’s no surprise voters are very wary of a US trade deal and would rather have a closer trade relationship with the rest of Europe.0 -
I spent a year working there on and off. Even when I went walking in beautiful sunny weather I always needed to take an umbrella or raincoat. The weather is always changing.Luckyguy1983 said:
I'd really like to explore Northern Ireland. I've never been. There was a trade show in Belfast later in the year I was looking at.Casino_Royale said:
We'll all be holidaying in Norn Iron this year then.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Confirming my opinion that Sturgeon and Drakesford are terrified of coming out of their stay at home mantra and creating untold future health and economic damage to Scotland and WalesHYUFD said:
There are some beautiful hills just outside Belfast.0 -
I bet you no more than 5% of people could explain any of those options correctly.HYUFD said:
The poll told us absolutely nothing other than Red Wall voters do not want to burn all bridges with Europe and ideally want a trade deal.nico67 said:The poll of Red Wall voters is being trashed by some because of the messenger because it makes for uncomfortable reading !
It’s no surprise voters are very wary of a US trade deal and would rather have a closer trade relationship with the rest of Europe.
It asked nothing about the single market, keeping free movement, a Canada style trade deal or WTO terms which would have been relevant
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I understand that but a deal is there with a bit of give and takeydoethur said:
No, we have left the EU. What we will be exiting is the single market, which we have remained in temporarily.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I do not want a US trade deal but we are leaving the EU on the 31st December 2020 as confirmed by the EU today so time for give and take on both sidesnico67 said:The poll of Red Wall voters is being trashed by some because of the messenger because it makes for uncomfortable reading !
It’s no surprise voters are very wary of a US trade deal and would rather have a closer trade relationship with the rest of Europe.
However, I do believe in time we will rejoin the single market0 -
They could answer a simple question like 'do you want to stay in the single market with full free movement from the EU or a trade deal with the EU that ends free movement instead?' Had that been asked I suspect the answer would have been different.nichomar said:
I bet you no more than 5% of people could explain any of those options correctly.HYUFD said:
The poll told us absolutely nothing other than Red Wall voters do not want to burn all bridges with Europe and ideally want a trade deal.nico67 said:The poll of Red Wall voters is being trashed by some because of the messenger because it makes for uncomfortable reading !
It’s no surprise voters are very wary of a US trade deal and would rather have a closer trade relationship with the rest of Europe.
It asked nothing about the single market, keeping free movement, a Canada style trade deal or WTO terms which would have been relevant0 -
I wonder if the tactic now will be just to have Vallance and Whitty with Boris and no other scientists / medics with anyone else.
ie Vallance and Whitty are the most senior and best performers who can be 100% trusted to get answers right and they'll be there to back up Boris who will announce any policy changes.
On other days just have a Minister and keep it low key - don't risk anyone else causing any embarrassment.0 -
Biden's biggest potential problem is the debates.1
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I shall be very annoyed indeed with Drakeford if he keeps a lockdown so hard that I cannot visit Wales this summer for the first time in 24 years.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I have no doubt the pressure building up on Sturgeon and Drakesford, even from within their own countries, will result in them following England and Northern Ireland very quicklyMexicanpete said:
Off topic.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Confirming my opinion that Sturgeon and Drakesford are terrified of coming out of their stay at home mantra and creating untold future health and economic damage to Scotland and WalesHYUFD said:
By this time next year we will see whether Johnson's throw of the dice or Welsh and Sottish caution was the way to go. I don't know which way it will go. If Wales and Scotland mitigate a second wave and England doesn't you may be eating your words.
They just cannot get away with destroying their lucrative holiday and leisure industries while those in England and Northern Ireland take their business and flourish
It is just idiotic1 -
Very true in da House. Biden may be able to beat Trump, but he's no George W Bush, the last President to put on (a few) House Seats in his first midterm. Before that, you need to go back to Franklin Roosevelt in 1934, I think, and before that to Teddy Roosevelt more than a century ago.HYUFD said:
If Biden does win it will very likely be a GOP Congress again in 2022, if Trump wins again however the House will likely see an increased Democratic majority and the Senate will also likely go DemocratFishing said:Just a thought, but can one bet yet on the change in seats in the House in the 2022 midterms? People who think Biden will win might want to consider betting on a number of Democrat losses in the House, as happened in LBJ's, Carter's, Clinton's and Obama's first midterms.
LBJ -47
Carter -15
Clinton -54
Obama -63
In the Senate, I'm not so convinced. Trump and George W Bush both won seats in their first midterms. But the Republicans are defending almost twice as many seats as the Dems so maybe.1 -
Covid-19 and BLM are for Donald Trump, what Katrina was for George W. Bush, and what the Bonus Army was for Herbert Hoover: key events that demonstrated to millions who had voted FOR these presidents, that they had made the WRONG choice.
In 1932 these folks lost faith in the "Great Engineer" and elected a man in a wheelchair. In 2008 they lost faith in "Compassionate Conservatism" and voted for a Black man. And in 2020 they've lost faith in "MAGA" and "The Art of the Deal" and will turn to Uncle Joe for all his faults.
Note how the whole Putinist "Biden is Gaga" meme does NOT have traction, to put it mildly. Uncle Joe mis-speaking, etc. is NOT evidence that he's senile - it's proof that he's Joe Biden! In other words, he's ALWAYS been that way.
Trump's problem after four long years, is that he too is the same guy he's always been. Except now his demerits are obvious, not just to his opponents, but to millions of his own supporters. Admittedly, most of these millions will continue giving him their votes. But NOT as many as in 2016.
One last thought for the moment: note that right now in America, the easiest way for ANY institution to win favor with the general public, is by publicly DISAGREEING with Donald Trump.
NASCAR is the most prominent example - just as Trumpsky is yet again wrapping himself in the Confederate Flag, NASCAR - which one welcomed him to it's races with one arms - has banned his favor banner.
If that ain't a sea change, then no such thing as salt water!
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Both are on resignation watch.MikeL said:I wonder if the tactic now will be just to have Vallance and Whitty with Boris and no other scientists / medics with anyone else.
ie Vallance and Whitty are the most senior and best performers who can be 100% trusted to get answers right and they'll be there to back up Boris who will announce any policy changes.
On other days just have a Minister and keep it low key - don't risk anyone else causing any embarrassment.0 -
I wonder if the USMCA agreement had any part of this.TheScreamingEagles said:Neil Gorsuch for President.
You see, at the very last moment ahead of the signing of USMCA (which replaced NAFTA), the Canadians demanded that the level playing field provisions of the treaty included protection of LBGT workers. Trump said "fine", because he wanted to announce that NAFTA had been replaced.0 -
It is in place until september at presentydoethur said:
I shall be very annoyed indeed with Drakeford if he keeps a lockdown so hard that I cannot visit Wales this summer for the first time in 24 years.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I have no doubt the pressure building up on Sturgeon and Drakesford, even from within their own countries, will result in them following England and Northern Ireland very quicklyMexicanpete said:
Off topic.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Confirming my opinion that Sturgeon and Drakesford are terrified of coming out of their stay at home mantra and creating untold future health and economic damage to Scotland and WalesHYUFD said:
By this time next year we will see whether Johnson's throw of the dice or Welsh and Sottish caution was the way to go. I don't know which way it will go. If Wales and Scotland mitigate a second wave and England doesn't you may be eating your words.
They just cannot get away with destroying their lucrative holiday and leisure industries while those in England and Northern Ireland take their business and flourish
It is just idiotic
He is heading for open rebellion, especially in the north, as have far more in common with Liverpool, Manchester and Chester than Cardiff.
He is and always has been a disaster for Wales
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BLM probably regards mixed-race marriages as problematic.0
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Didn’t work so well for Truman...Mexicanpete said:
I bow to your impressive knowledge of the US Presidential race, but can you see that happening with Trump's stock so low?HYUFD said:However about 10% of voters still not voting for either Trump or Biden, if they all shift to Trump by polling day and he wins back a few from Biden it will be neck and neck again
He needs something dramatic to stir the patriotic spirit. A very serious falling out with North Korea might be just the ticket. I wouldn't put it past him and his Fox News cronies either. For Trumps part, I am not sure he understands that actions have consequences, other than those which are advantageous to Trump.1 -
"TREVOR PHILLIPS
Culture warriors want control, not equality
Whether it’s on race or gender, the extremists in our midst want to stop freedom of speech" (£)
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/comment/culture-warriors-want-control-not-equality-56knrgklh1 -
Netflix pull blackface episode of It's Always Sunny. The point of that series is to hate the characters because they are all so awful, that episode is literally a piss take of the kind of people who think blackface is a reasonable thing to do.
Who is the culture minister? I think it's time for a strongly worded letter to streaming companies saying that censorship is not on and all TV shows must be restored immediately.1 -
Would seem rather self-defeating for an anti-racist movement to be er ... racist?Andy_JS said:BLM probably regards mixed-race marriages as problematic.
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TOTAL BULLSHIT. Your view of BLM reflects NOT views of millions of supporters world wide, but rather your own ideology.Andy_JS said:BLM probably regards mixed-race marriages as problematic.
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Who ever heard of voters being ungrateful?Gallowgate said:
It doesn’t matter what they want, because they’re getting what @HYUFD says they want.nico67 said:The poll of Red Wall voters is being trashed by some because of the messenger because it makes for uncomfortable reading !
It’s no surprise voters are very wary of a US trade deal and would rather have a closer trade relationship with the rest of Europe.0 -
Improved Covid-19 website with extra graphs.Casino_Royale said:
I don't think that's a secret?HYUFD said:
Providing cases don't soar in the next 2 weeks I expect that to happen.
https://verify-it-c19data.co.uk/0 -
Tell 'em you're Eadric, you'll be fine.ydoethur said:
I shall be very annoyed indeed with Drakeford if he keeps a lockdown so hard that I cannot visit Wales this summer for the first time in 24 years.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I have no doubt the pressure building up on Sturgeon and Drakesford, even from within their own countries, will result in them following England and Northern Ireland very quicklyMexicanpete said:
Off topic.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Confirming my opinion that Sturgeon and Drakesford are terrified of coming out of their stay at home mantra and creating untold future health and economic damage to Scotland and WalesHYUFD said:
By this time next year we will see whether Johnson's throw of the dice or Welsh and Sottish caution was the way to go. I don't know which way it will go. If Wales and Scotland mitigate a second wave and England doesn't you may be eating your words.
They just cannot get away with destroying their lucrative holiday and leisure industries while those in England and Northern Ireland take their business and flourish
It is just idiotic0 -
Drakeford is a banned word x. 2.
Am wondering if I can find a good parking spot, on the English side of Offa's Dyke for a ridge walk over the border.0 -
The monkey does the white chocolate coco pops too. Is that cultural appropriation or slave labour?isam said:
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What is she doing these days? Does anyone know?isam said:0 -
Unfortunately - or perhaps fortunately - as I am always sober and treat women with respect, they would never believe me.Theuniondivvie said:
Tell 'em you're Eadric, you'll be fine.ydoethur said:
I shall be very annoyed indeed with Drakeford if he keeps a lockdown so hard that I cannot visit Wales this summer for the first time in 24 years.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I have no doubt the pressure building up on Sturgeon and Drakesford, even from within their own countries, will result in them following England and Northern Ireland very quicklyMexicanpete said:
Off topic.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Confirming my opinion that Sturgeon and Drakesford are terrified of coming out of their stay at home mantra and creating untold future health and economic damage to Scotland and WalesHYUFD said:
By this time next year we will see whether Johnson's throw of the dice or Welsh and Sottish caution was the way to go. I don't know which way it will go. If Wales and Scotland mitigate a second wave and England doesn't you may be eating your words.
They just cannot get away with destroying their lucrative holiday and leisure industries while those in England and Northern Ireland take their business and flourish
It is just idiotic0 -
I thought she’d served that?IshmaelZ said:
Horatio Bottomley was surely the best MP to serve time. He also had the best line on it. One day a distinguished politician who had known him well was visiting the prison and found him sewing mailbags. ‘Ah, Horatio. Sewing, I see.’ ‘No,’ replied Bottomley. ‘Reaping.’2 -
Ha!ydoethur said:
I thought she’d served that?IshmaelZ said:
Horatio Bottomley was surely the best MP to serve time. He also had the best line on it. One day a distinguished politician who had known him well was visiting the prison and found him sewing mailbags. ‘Ah, Horatio. Sewing, I see.’ ‘No,’ replied Bottomley. ‘Reaping.’
I regard Onasanya as the English Mandela, and I shall rename all the rooms in my house in her honour.0 -
Wait until she discovers Tony the Tiger . . .isam said:0 -
She can’t be an English Mandela. She was inside for perjury, not for Robben.IshmaelZ said:
Ha!ydoethur said:
I thought she’d served that?IshmaelZ said:
Horatio Bottomley was surely the best MP to serve time. He also had the best line on it. One day a distinguished politician who had known him well was visiting the prison and found him sewing mailbags. ‘Ah, Horatio. Sewing, I see.’ ‘No,’ replied Bottomley. ‘Reaping.’
I regard Onasanya as the English Mandela, and I shall rename all the rooms in my house in her honour.2 -
Free membership of the TrumpToast club is suspended.
Costs a fiver now.
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Quote from Trevor Phillips' latest article in The Times:
"Most of the mainstream media no longer even pretends to be even-handed. The BBC apparently believes that Rowling’s view that biological sex exists is “controversial”; it is, but only in the sense that a noisy minority “controversially” believes we are ruled by lizard aliens. Astonishingly, this weekend the BBC allowed, without challenge, a Black Lives Matter (BLM) representative to equate Adolf Hitler with Winston Churchill — the very man who brought thousands of West Indians to volunteer to fight and die in the battle against fascism. It really isn’t an accident that so many of us in the Caribbean are called Winston."4 -
That last part is confusing. Do you mean ‘the women she met inside,’ or ‘the women inside that she has met?’ Or some combination thereof?TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
That pun gets my Seal of approval.ydoethur said:
She can’t be an English Mandela. She was inside for perjury, not for Robben.IshmaelZ said:
Ha!ydoethur said:
I thought she’d served that?IshmaelZ said:
Horatio Bottomley was surely the best MP to serve time. He also had the best line on it. One day a distinguished politician who had known him well was visiting the prison and found him sewing mailbags. ‘Ah, Horatio. Sewing, I see.’ ‘No,’ replied Bottomley. ‘Reaping.’
I regard Onasanya as the English Mandela, and I shall rename all the rooms in my house in her honour.0 -
I’ll not have a bad word said against Fiona Onasanya.
She was responsible for ending Stewart Jackson’s parliamentary career, something we should be thankful.0 -
Like you were responsible for starting Andrea Jenkyns parliamentary career?TheScreamingEagles said:I’ll not have a bad word said against Fiona Onasanya.
She was responsible for ending Stewart Jackson’s parliamentary career, something we should be thankful.0 -
A combination.ydoethur said:
That last part is confusing. Do you mean ‘the women she met inside,’ or ‘the women inside that she has met?’ Or some combination thereof?TheScreamingEagles said:
1) The women she met inside prison
2) Any women currently in prison/have been in prison.1 -
Without which we’d never have got to see Ed Balls’ Gangnam Style.Philip_Thompson said:
Like you were responsible for starting Andrea Jenkyns parliamentary career?TheScreamingEagles said:I’ll not have a bad word said against Fiona Onasanya.
She was responsible for ending Stewart Jackson’s parliamentary career, something we should be thankful.0 -
That was entirely David Herdson's work.Philip_Thompson said:
Like you were responsible for starting Andrea Jenkyns parliamentary career?TheScreamingEagles said:I’ll not have a bad word said against Fiona Onasanya.
She was responsible for ending Stewart Jackson’s parliamentary career, something we should be thankful.
I did good work for Stuart Andrew, Alec Shelbrooke, and Jason McCartney in that election.0 -
Or the PB headline on election night 'Balls deep in trouble'.ThomasNashe said:
Without which we’d never have got to see Ed Balls’ Gangnam Style.Philip_Thompson said:
Like you were responsible for starting Andrea Jenkyns parliamentary career?TheScreamingEagles said:I’ll not have a bad word said against Fiona Onasanya.
She was responsible for ending Stewart Jackson’s parliamentary career, something we should be thankful.0 -
Was also proud of 'Ajockalypse Now' on GE2015 night on the nightmare for SLAB.1
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Given it was based on years of incompetence, corruption and failure, Whoops Ajockalypse would have been more appropriate.TheScreamingEagles said:Was also proud of 'Ajockalypse Now' on GE2015 night on the nightmare for SLAB.
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We read disgraced ex-MP Fiona Onasanya's autobiography and it was... a lot
It includes the words 'strictly dickly'
https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/local-news/fiona-onasanya-peterborough-autobiography-snakesadders-177692260 -
I remember Mr Murphy, then head of SLAB, predicting he wouldn't lose a single Labour parliamentary seat in Scotland to the SNP.TheScreamingEagles said:Was also proud of 'Ajockalypse Now' on GE2015 night on the nightmare for SLAB.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/dec/14/snp-scottish-labour-murphy-poll
Now THAT was a real Delphic oracle, from the unconscious presumably.1 -
The idea that the government gets to mandate editorial decisions (probably temporary) of media companies is even less... on.MaxPB said:Netflix pull blackface episode of It's Always Sunny. The point of that series is to hate the characters because they are all so awful, that episode is literally a piss take of the kind of people who think blackface is a reasonable thing to do.
Who is the culture minister? I think it's time for a strongly worded letter to streaming companies saying that censorship is not on and all TV shows must be restored immediately.1
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