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Clinton was seeing these types of leads back in spring 2016 as well.rottenborough said:https://twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/status/1263169008968310786
Wow, or wow. Tell me this is not a voodoo!!!!
That being said. if ypu're a Democrat, you have a pathological need to excoriate yourself over each and every loss. To obsess about this or that detail. Dukakis and the tank in 1988. What if Bobby Kennedy had lived in 1968? So on and so forth. At least back to 1928 and Al ("Rum, Romanism and Ruin") Smith.
If Biden doesn't win, no doubt this'll also provide fine fodder for future dark nights of the soul.0 -
Not if the UK wishes to stay in within WTO rules, although they are a bit moot these days, thanks to Mr Trump. Maybe the UK could schedule a new set of tariffs.tbh I don't think HMG expects to collect these tariffs in January. Is that because they know they will have a deal with the EU?Omnium said:
Oh well if these are WTA import tariffs then we can just choose not to collect them. I'd assumed as you'd said 'if the UK doesn't agree' that these were export tariffs that the EU was imposing.FF43 said:
Those are the new UK import tariffs. To be sure, importers of UK goods into the Continent and Northern Ireland will have to pay EU tariffs, absent an FTA by December.Omnium said:
Well of course these tariffs are those of others. Export tariffs are really no concern.. The EU will never maintain them. Import tariffs are far more troublesome. (Imports into EU)FF43 said:
The main thing this tells me is that the government doesn't expect to implement these tariffs. Not sure whether this is because the govt thinks they will agree an FTA with the EU or because they haven't thought things through.Omnium said:
If its £1.60 better per kg than something home-produced, and if I want to buy it at the price then it seems fine. Obviously home-produced cheeses compete better, and at that price I may decide not to buy.FF43 said:
That's parmesan etc. Some of the others are cheaper.ydoethur said:
£1.60 per kilogramme for imported cheese?FF43 said:
The big Brexit news yesterday was the tariff schedule. If the UK doesn't agree an FTA with the EU by December we will be paying an extra £1 per litre for imported olive oil, £1.26 to £1.60 per kilogramme for imported cheese, 14% on fresh vegetables, canned tomatoes etc. something ridiculous for yoghurt.eadric said:
It really won’t. Covid-19 is a disaster. Hard Brexit is a modest prang in comparison. We might not even notice, amidst the horror of a second waveMikeSmithson said:
Except walking away will be a disaster whatever Boris fanboys sayPhilip_Thompson said:FPT
Because the EU don't want us to walk away and the government is prepared to do so.williamglenn said:
Why should Barnier care about UK public opinion, or to put it differently, why is UK public opinion more important than EU27 public opinion?Philip_Thompson said:
I think if we end up walking away then in the battle of public opinion the UK government has easily won this round over Barnier.williamglenn said:"There is no automatic entitlement to any benefits that the EU may have offered or granted in other contexts and circumstances to other, often very different, partners."
https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier/status/1263118957944483842
Quoting chapter and verse what they're looking for, why its been deemed acceptable before and to whom was a stroke of genius. Barnier stammering that the UK can't get the same without a reason is going to impress nobody neutral.
The UK holds the cards.
That. Is. A. Disgrace.
It's always been 'kilogram' rather that 'kilogramme' by the way. I learnt that whilst listening to the bbc service on my radiophone.0 -
The egg heads now need to develop an accurate real time test for those that have the plague.0
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And yay, were the prayers of the punditry answered.FrancisUrquhart said:Police watchdog to announce decision on Johnson-Arcuri inquiry tomorrow.
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His handler must be proudFrancisUrquhart said:Police watchdog to announce decision on Johnson-Arcuri inquiry tomorrow.
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Just done a quick check and neither Toby Young nor Brendan O'Neil have yet written an article demanding its reinstatement.Scott_xP said:0 -
He will not reach 200 in the EC.rottenborough said:https://twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/status/1263169008968310786
Wow, or wow. Tell me this is not a voodoo!!!!
Are people finally cottoning on?0 -
Eh? How does multiplying a number by four (and that's pretty much all they do) increase it's comprehensibility?geoffw said:
Economic data come in different frequencies and annualising allows easy comparison between quarterly and annual gdp so that we can see whether the pace is accelerating or decelerating without having to take the fourth root or whatever.eek said:
I've never understood why Americans take an easily measurable figure and then mangle it.rcs1000 said:
I am.MaxPB said:
I think he's raging at journalists, not you.glw said:
I agree that they are stupid, I'm just reporting what they said.rcs1000 said:
Annualised GDP numbers have always been stupid.glw said:
CBO predicts a second quarter drop of 38% on an annualised basis.Andrew said:
Should be fairly easy to turn it onto the economy, which sounds like it'll be in the crapper by election day.rottenborough said:I see Trump is aggressively attacking China again to deflect blame.
This election is going to be hijacked into a who is toughest on China event. Can Biden make it about anything else?
It will also result in journalists (who should know better) saying things like "Germany's economy, which contracted 9% in the quarter did better than the US which fell 38%".
NO YOU MORON. THE GERMAN NUMBER IS A QUARTERLY CHANGE. THE US NUMBER IS AN ANNUALISED CHANGE - IE FOUR TIMES LARGER.
But I also think annualising GDP changes is stupid. Because it exaggerates one off shocks.
The economy grew at 0.5% in Q4, and the economy grew at a 2% rate in Q4 both express exactly the same information.0 -
Been in those SMT type meetings where toilets come up and everyone sorts of shuts up and lowers eyes hoping the big boss doesn't pick them to sort it out. We once had a phantom shitter leaving his stuff around all over in the bog and the tension after two weeks of him being at large was palpable to the height of Ripper mania in the East End of London in 1888FrancisUrquhart said:
Just listened to Freakonomics episode on what US universities have planned for new academic year & one of the uni leaders brought up toilets as something they had identified as a massive problem.Pulpstar said:Lol "Skegness beach had one public toilet available"
One public toilet available in a pandemic is a terrible idea, you're best off with either zero so people use their own campervan, the woods or the sea; or loads open (That encourages people I suppose though).
One is probably the worst number, must have been absolubtely wretched at the end of the day and likely a Covid risk.0 -
So canned tomatoes will go up by 5p.FF43 said:
The big Brexit news yesterday was the tariff schedule. If the UK doesn't agree an FTA with the EU by December we will be paying an extra £1 per litre for imported olive oil, £1.26 to £1.60 per kilogramme for imported cheese, 14% on fresh vegetables, canned tomatoes etc. something ridiculous for yoghurt.eadric said:
It really won’t. Covid-19 is a disaster. Hard Brexit is a modest prang in comparison. We might not even notice, amidst the horror of a second waveMikeSmithson said:
Except walking away will be a disaster whatever Boris fanboys sayPhilip_Thompson said:FPT
Because the EU don't want us to walk away and the government is prepared to do so.williamglenn said:
Why should Barnier care about UK public opinion, or to put it differently, why is UK public opinion more important than EU27 public opinion?Philip_Thompson said:
I think if we end up walking away then in the battle of public opinion the UK government has easily won this round over Barnier.williamglenn said:"There is no automatic entitlement to any benefits that the EU may have offered or granted in other contexts and circumstances to other, often very different, partners."
https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier/status/1263118957944483842
Quoting chapter and verse what they're looking for, why its been deemed acceptable before and to whom was a stroke of genius. Barnier stammering that the UK can't get the same without a reason is going to impress nobody neutral.
The UK holds the cards.
Not quite covid or climate change is it.0 -
Hardly surprising he never came to much.eadric said:Omnium said:
Are grapes soil and sunshine that have gone off?Luckyguy1983 said:
Wine is grapes that have gone off.Beibheirli_C said:
Cheese is milk that went off. No loss.FF43 said:
That's parmesan etc. Some of the others are cheaper.ydoethur said:
£1.60 per kilogramme for imported cheese?FF43 said:
The big Brexit news yesterday was the tariff schedule. If the UK doesn't agree an FTA with the EU by December we will be paying an extra £1 per litre for imported olive oil, £1.26 to £1.60 per kilogramme for imported cheese, 14% on fresh vegetables, canned tomatoes etc. something ridiculous for yoghurt.eadric said:
It really won’t. Covid-19 is a disaster. Hard Brexit is a modest prang in comparison. We might not even notice, amidst the horror of a second waveMikeSmithson said:
Except walking away will be a disaster whatever Boris fanboys sayPhilip_Thompson said:FPT
Because the EU don't want us to walk away and the government is prepared to do so.williamglenn said:
Why should Barnier care about UK public opinion, or to put it differently, why is UK public opinion more important than EU27 public opinion?Philip_Thompson said:
I think if we end up walking away then in the battle of public opinion the UK government has easily won this round over Barnier.williamglenn said:"There is no automatic entitlement to any benefits that the EU may have offered or granted in other contexts and circumstances to other, often very different, partners."
https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier/status/1263118957944483842
Quoting chapter and verse what they're looking for, why its been deemed acceptable before and to whom was a stroke of genius. Barnier stammering that the UK can't get the same without a reason is going to impress nobody neutral.
The UK holds the cards.
That. Is. A. Disgrace.
Should add if this goes ahead there will be humongous smuggling from NI to GB. Possibly also across the Channel. Not too sure about those Customs checks being in place.
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"It's like pure mucous. It's just creepy. No other species drinks milk from any other species. It's completely mental."eadric said:Omnium said:
Are grapes soil and sunshine that have gone off?Luckyguy1983 said:
Wine is grapes that have gone off.Beibheirli_C said:
Cheese is milk that went off. No loss.FF43 said:
That's parmesan etc. Some of the others are cheaper.ydoethur said:
£1.60 per kilogramme for imported cheese?FF43 said:
The big Brexit news yesterday was the tariff schedule. If the UK doesn't agree an FTA with the EU by December we will be paying an extra £1 per litre for imported olive oil, £1.26 to £1.60 per kilogramme for imported cheese, 14% on fresh vegetables, canned tomatoes etc. something ridiculous for yoghurt.eadric said:
It really won’t. Covid-19 is a disaster. Hard Brexit is a modest prang in comparison. We might not even notice, amidst the horror of a second waveMikeSmithson said:
Except walking away will be a disaster whatever Boris fanboys sayPhilip_Thompson said:FPT
Because the EU don't want us to walk away and the government is prepared to do so.williamglenn said:
Why should Barnier care about UK public opinion, or to put it differently, why is UK public opinion more important than EU27 public opinion?Philip_Thompson said:
I think if we end up walking away then in the battle of public opinion the UK government has easily won this round over Barnier.williamglenn said:"There is no automatic entitlement to any benefits that the EU may have offered or granted in other contexts and circumstances to other, often very different, partners."
https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier/status/1263118957944483842
Quoting chapter and verse what they're looking for, why its been deemed acceptable before and to whom was a stroke of genius. Barnier stammering that the UK can't get the same without a reason is going to impress nobody neutral.
The UK holds the cards.
That. Is. A. Disgrace.
Should add if this goes ahead there will be humongous smuggling from NI to GB. Possibly also across the Channel. Not too sure about those Customs checks being in place.
“Cheese is the corpse of milk” - James Joyce
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More forced perspective photos?FrancisUrquhart said:There is a lockdown?
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The "others" who came from other nations within the UK, which denied Scottish students zero fees to their universities.geoffw said:
The select Scottish students who got into HWU enjoyed the zero fee arrangement even though it made entry more difficult for others. I think it's called kicking away the ladder once you've made it over the wall.Theuniondivvie said:
And in this sense 'Scottish' simply means 'resident in Scotland'.0 -
You've clearly never bought American cheese.eadric said:
The least interesting cheese in France. Pasteurised into tasteless oblivionydoethur said:
I’m intrigued. Would you have not been too bothered if it had been bad Brie?SandyRentool said:
What's that? A tariff on Good Brie? To the barricades, Comrades!FF43 said:
The big Brexit news yesterday was the tariff schedule. If the UK doesn't agree an FTA with the EU by December we will be paying an extra £1 per litre for imported olive oil, £1.26 to £1.60 per kilogramme for imported cheese, 14% on fresh vegetables, canned tomatoes etc. something ridiculous for yoghurt.eadric said:
It really won’t. Covid-19 is a disaster. Hard Brexit is a modest prang in comparison. We might not even notice, amidst the horror of a second waveMikeSmithson said:
Except walking away will be a disaster whatever Boris fanboys sayPhilip_Thompson said:FPT
Because the EU don't want us to walk away and the government is prepared to do so.williamglenn said:
Why should Barnier care about UK public opinion, or to put it differently, why is UK public opinion more important than EU27 public opinion?Philip_Thompson said:
I think if we end up walking away then in the battle of public opinion the UK government has easily won this round over Barnier.williamglenn said:"There is no automatic entitlement to any benefits that the EU may have offered or granted in other contexts and circumstances to other, often very different, partners."
https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier/status/1263118957944483842
Quoting chapter and verse what they're looking for, why its been deemed acceptable before and to whom was a stroke of genius. Barnier stammering that the UK can't get the same without a reason is going to impress nobody neutral.
The UK holds the cards.1 -
Then call me a prideful carrion eater.eadric said:Omnium said:
Are grapes soil and sunshine that have gone off?Luckyguy1983 said:
Wine is grapes that have gone off.Beibheirli_C said:
Cheese is milk that went off. No loss.FF43 said:
That's parmesan etc. Some of the others are cheaper.ydoethur said:
£1.60 per kilogramme for imported cheese?FF43 said:
The big Brexit news yesterday was the tariff schedule. If the UK doesn't agree an FTA with the EU by December we will be paying an extra £1 per litre for imported olive oil, £1.26 to £1.60 per kilogramme for imported cheese, 14% on fresh vegetables, canned tomatoes etc. something ridiculous for yoghurt.eadric said:
It really won’t. Covid-19 is a disaster. Hard Brexit is a modest prang in comparison. We might not even notice, amidst the horror of a second waveMikeSmithson said:
Except walking away will be a disaster whatever Boris fanboys sayPhilip_Thompson said:FPT
Because the EU don't want us to walk away and the government is prepared to do so.williamglenn said:
Why should Barnier care about UK public opinion, or to put it differently, why is UK public opinion more important than EU27 public opinion?Philip_Thompson said:
I think if we end up walking away then in the battle of public opinion the UK government has easily won this round over Barnier.williamglenn said:"There is no automatic entitlement to any benefits that the EU may have offered or granted in other contexts and circumstances to other, often very different, partners."
https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier/status/1263118957944483842
Quoting chapter and verse what they're looking for, why its been deemed acceptable before and to whom was a stroke of genius. Barnier stammering that the UK can't get the same without a reason is going to impress nobody neutral.
The UK holds the cards.
That. Is. A. Disgrace.
Should add if this goes ahead there will be humongous smuggling from NI to GB. Possibly also across the Channel. Not too sure about those Customs checks being in place.
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Which is the best kind of Scottish.Carnyx said:
The "others" who came from other nations within the UK, which denied Scottish students zero fees to their universities.geoffw said:
The select Scottish students who got into HWU enjoyed the zero fee arrangement even though it made entry more difficult for others. I think it's called kicking away the ladder once you've made it over the wall.Theuniondivvie said:
And in this sense 'Scottish' simply means 'resident in Scotland'.0 -
Please give it its proper name. "Processed Food Slice"rcs1000 said:
You've clearly never bought American cheese.eadric said:
The least interesting cheese in France. Pasteurised into tasteless oblivionydoethur said:
I’m intrigued. Would you have not been too bothered if it had been bad Brie?SandyRentool said:
What's that? A tariff on Good Brie? To the barricades, Comrades!FF43 said:
The big Brexit news yesterday was the tariff schedule. If the UK doesn't agree an FTA with the EU by December we will be paying an extra £1 per litre for imported olive oil, £1.26 to £1.60 per kilogramme for imported cheese, 14% on fresh vegetables, canned tomatoes etc. something ridiculous for yoghurt.eadric said:
It really won’t. Covid-19 is a disaster. Hard Brexit is a modest prang in comparison. We might not even notice, amidst the horror of a second waveMikeSmithson said:
Except walking away will be a disaster whatever Boris fanboys sayPhilip_Thompson said:FPT
Because the EU don't want us to walk away and the government is prepared to do so.williamglenn said:
Why should Barnier care about UK public opinion, or to put it differently, why is UK public opinion more important than EU27 public opinion?Philip_Thompson said:
I think if we end up walking away then in the battle of public opinion the UK government has easily won this round over Barnier.williamglenn said:"There is no automatic entitlement to any benefits that the EU may have offered or granted in other contexts and circumstances to other, often very different, partners."
https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier/status/1263118957944483842
Quoting chapter and verse what they're looking for, why its been deemed acceptable before and to whom was a stroke of genius. Barnier stammering that the UK can't get the same without a reason is going to impress nobody neutral.
The UK holds the cards.2 -
Nah, on government figures Hard Brexit is worse than Coronavirus.eadric said:Mexicanpete said:
So its a bit like having a foot removed, a mere trifle and not of any consequence whatsover in comparison to having the offending leg amputated instead?eadric said:
It really won’t. Covid-19 is a disaster. Hard Brexit is a modest prang in comparison. We might not even notice, amidst the horror of a second waveMikeSmithson said:
Except walking away will be a disaster whatever Boris fanboys sayPhilip_Thompson said:FPT
Because the EU don't want us to walk away and the government is prepared to do so.williamglenn said:
Why should Barnier care about UK public opinion, or to put it differently, why is UK public opinion more important than EU27 public opinion?Philip_Thompson said:
I think if we end up walking away then in the battle of public opinion the UK government has easily won this round over Barnier.williamglenn said:"There is no automatic entitlement to any benefits that the EU may have offered or granted in other contexts and circumstances to other, often very different, partners."
https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier/status/1263118957944483842
Quoting chapter and verse what they're looking for, why its been deemed acceptable before and to whom was a stroke of genius. Barnier stammering that the UK can't get the same without a reason is going to impress nobody neutral.
The UK holds the cards.
Hard Brexit is not a foot amputation, you spineless cuck. We know this because we now KNOW what a real disaster feels like: as we’re in one.
If you need an analogy Hard Brexit is tonsillitis, Corona is throat cancer.
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I once went on a factory tour of Tillamook cheese.... i didn't have the heart to ask if they had ever tried proper cheese.rcs1000 said:
You've clearly never bought American cheese.eadric said:
The least interesting cheese in France. Pasteurised into tasteless oblivionydoethur said:
I’m intrigued. Would you have not been too bothered if it had been bad Brie?SandyRentool said:
What's that? A tariff on Good Brie? To the barricades, Comrades!FF43 said:
The big Brexit news yesterday was the tariff schedule. If the UK doesn't agree an FTA with the EU by December we will be paying an extra £1 per litre for imported olive oil, £1.26 to £1.60 per kilogramme for imported cheese, 14% on fresh vegetables, canned tomatoes etc. something ridiculous for yoghurt.eadric said:
It really won’t. Covid-19 is a disaster. Hard Brexit is a modest prang in comparison. We might not even notice, amidst the horror of a second waveMikeSmithson said:
Except walking away will be a disaster whatever Boris fanboys sayPhilip_Thompson said:FPT
Because the EU don't want us to walk away and the government is prepared to do so.williamglenn said:
Why should Barnier care about UK public opinion, or to put it differently, why is UK public opinion more important than EU27 public opinion?Philip_Thompson said:
I think if we end up walking away then in the battle of public opinion the UK government has easily won this round over Barnier.williamglenn said:"There is no automatic entitlement to any benefits that the EU may have offered or granted in other contexts and circumstances to other, often very different, partners."
https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier/status/1263118957944483842
Quoting chapter and verse what they're looking for, why its been deemed acceptable before and to whom was a stroke of genius. Barnier stammering that the UK can't get the same without a reason is going to impress nobody neutral.
The UK holds the cards.0 -
I'm not sure there's much of a correlation between number of - and quality of - posts.eadric said:
Another one with a history of.... < CHECKS PAGE AGAIN > Ah yes. 32 comments. Lolanotherex_tory said:
You could exchange the EU nations for UK regions couldn't you?" It means endless borrowing on the London, Surrey, Hertfordshire and Berkshire wallets. The West-midlanders hate it but the poorer regions love it."eadric said:
I just don’t care. No one cares any more. The EU is a shitshow, the latest mad Franco-German scheme is symptom, it means endless borrowing on the German, Swedish, Dutch, Austrian dime, the Eastern Europeans hate it, it means transferring money to wealthier Italians forever, it’s like mad Merkel’s migration policy for Syrians.FF43 said:
The big Brexit news yesterday was the tariff schedule. If the UK doesn't agree an FTA with the EU by December we will be paying an extra £1 per litre for imported olive oil, £1.26 to £1.60 per kilogramme for imported cheese, 14% on fresh vegetables, canned tomatoes etc. something ridiculous for yoghurt.eadric said:
It really won’t. Covid-19 is a disaster. Hard Brexit is a modest prang in comparison. We might not even notice, amidst the horror of a second waveMikeSmithson said:
Except walking away will be a disaster whatever Boris fanboys sayPhilip_Thompson said:FPT
Because the EU don't want us to walk away and the government is prepared to do so.williamglenn said:
Why should Barnier care about UK public opinion, or to put it differently, why is UK public opinion more important than EU27 public opinion?Philip_Thompson said:
I think if we end up walking away then in the battle of public opinion the UK government has easily won this round over Barnier.williamglenn said:"There is no automatic entitlement to any benefits that the EU may have offered or granted in other contexts and circumstances to other, often very different, partners."
https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier/status/1263118957944483842
Quoting chapter and verse what they're looking for, why its been deemed acceptable before and to whom was a stroke of genius. Barnier stammering that the UK can't get the same without a reason is going to impress nobody neutral.
The UK holds the cards.
Germans might just buy it, out of guilt, I predict the other Frugals won’t, and if by some miracle they do, the bitterness will be epochal.
We need to get out ASAFP. If the price is Hard Brexit so be it. We have our own problems and we can solve our own problems.
"The Bitterness is Epochal." Or is it?
Is the sacrifice made to support your neighbour worth it because seeing them impoverished shouldn't make you feel richer? Maybe the EU will spread its wealth to help all of its members or maybe it won't.
But what is the UK's attitude? "I hope my roof doesn't catch fire from my neighbour's burning house?" Frankly with a view like that, its hardly worth backing, opposing or even engaging with: better gone with all the worst angels of human nature which it has assimilated.
Oh and "let the fat fuckers croak", says more than enough about you.0 -
We are headed for No Deal and the the Government is going to pretend Coronavirus is the cause of the economic downturn.2
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Actually, Brexit is like Polio an utterly pernicious multilateral infection which causes debilitating and permanent damage. It could be a limp, nerve damage or paralysis but damage will be done either way and its permanent. The other similarity to Brexit is that Polio is caused by swallowing faecal matter.eadric said:Mexicanpete said:
So its a bit like having a foot removed, a mere trifle and not of any consequence whatsover in comparison to having the offending leg amputated instead?eadric said:
It really won’t. Covid-19 is a disaster. Hard Brexit is a modest prang in comparison. We might not even notice, amidst the horror of a second waveMikeSmithson said:
Except walking away will be a disaster whatever Boris fanboys sayPhilip_Thompson said:FPT
Because the EU don't want us to walk away and the government is prepared to do so.williamglenn said:
Why should Barnier care about UK public opinion, or to put it differently, why is UK public opinion more important than EU27 public opinion?Philip_Thompson said:
I think if we end up walking away then in the battle of public opinion the UK government has easily won this round over Barnier.williamglenn said:"There is no automatic entitlement to any benefits that the EU may have offered or granted in other contexts and circumstances to other, often very different, partners."
https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier/status/1263118957944483842
Quoting chapter and verse what they're looking for, why its been deemed acceptable before and to whom was a stroke of genius. Barnier stammering that the UK can't get the same without a reason is going to impress nobody neutral.
The UK holds the cards.
Hard Brexit is not a foot amputation, you spineless cuck. We know this because we now KNOW what a real disaster feels like: as we’re in one.
If you need an analogy Hard Brexit is tonsillitis, Corona is throat cancer.
Covid 19 on the other hand is, well, Covid 19. A disease that kills very few, leaves most unaffected permanently and the outcome depends somewhat on luck but largely on preparation (general health). It seems to be treatable and there will be a vaccine.
In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used - the topic of conversation will still be the fall-out from Brexit and it will continue to be discussed as long as there is an EU for the UK to re- join, leave or remain in i.e. for the rest of my lifetime at least.
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Do you mean to say 2% is the annual rate? I assume so. So, expressing both as annual rates they are equal and no thinking is involved. There you go. That's why they do it.rcs1000 said:
Eh? How does multiplying a number by four (and that's pretty much all they do) increase it's comprehensibility?geoffw said:
Economic data come in different frequencies and annualising allows easy comparison between quarterly and annual gdp so that we can see whether the pace is accelerating or decelerating without having to take the fourth root or whatever.eek said:
I've never understood why Americans take an easily measurable figure and then mangle it.rcs1000 said:
I am.MaxPB said:
I think he's raging at journalists, not you.glw said:
I agree that they are stupid, I'm just reporting what they said.rcs1000 said:
Annualised GDP numbers have always been stupid.glw said:
CBO predicts a second quarter drop of 38% on an annualised basis.Andrew said:
Should be fairly easy to turn it onto the economy, which sounds like it'll be in the crapper by election day.rottenborough said:I see Trump is aggressively attacking China again to deflect blame.
This election is going to be hijacked into a who is toughest on China event. Can Biden make it about anything else?
It will also result in journalists (who should know better) saying things like "Germany's economy, which contracted 9% in the quarter did better than the US which fell 38%".
NO YOU MORON. THE GERMAN NUMBER IS A QUARTERLY CHANGE. THE US NUMBER IS AN ANNUALISED CHANGE - IE FOUR TIMES LARGER.
But I also think annualising GDP changes is stupid. Because it exaggerates one off shocks.
The economy grew at 0.5% in Q4, and the economy grew at a 2% rate in Q4 both express exactly the same information.
p.s. but suppose the numbers are 5% in Q4 and that is to be compared to an annual rate of 23%. Is there an acceleration in Q4 or not?
Answer (1+0.05)^4 = 1.216, so no - a deceleration.
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No it's the nasty EU who are bullying us!CorrectHorseBattery said:We are headed for No Deal and the the Government is going to pretend Coronavirus is the cause of the economic downturn.
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They are projectations over many years. coronavirus will do more than that in a few months.Foxy said:
Nah, on government figures Hard Brexit is worse than Coronavirus.eadric said:Mexicanpete said:
So its a bit like having a foot removed, a mere trifle and not of any consequence whatsover in comparison to having the offending leg amputated instead?eadric said:
It really won’t. Covid-19 is a disaster. Hard Brexit is a modest prang in comparison. We might not even notice, amidst the horror of a second waveMikeSmithson said:
Except walking away will be a disaster whatever Boris fanboys sayPhilip_Thompson said:FPT
Because the EU don't want us to walk away and the government is prepared to do so.williamglenn said:
Why should Barnier care about UK public opinion, or to put it differently, why is UK public opinion more important than EU27 public opinion?Philip_Thompson said:
I think if we end up walking away then in the battle of public opinion the UK government has easily won this round over Barnier.williamglenn said:"There is no automatic entitlement to any benefits that the EU may have offered or granted in other contexts and circumstances to other, often very different, partners."
https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier/status/1263118957944483842
Quoting chapter and verse what they're looking for, why its been deemed acceptable before and to whom was a stroke of genius. Barnier stammering that the UK can't get the same without a reason is going to impress nobody neutral.
The UK holds the cards.
Hard Brexit is not a foot amputation, you spineless cuck. We know this because we now KNOW what a real disaster feels like: as we’re in one.
If you need an analogy Hard Brexit is tonsillitis, Corona is throat cancer.0 -
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I hear good things about that factory - the chap who did the below referencing the cheese has mentioned going to it at least four times.FrancisUrquhart said:
I once went on a factory tour of Tillamook cheese.... i didn't have the heart to ask if they had ever tried proper cheese.rcs1000 said:
You've clearly never bought American cheese.eadric said:
The least interesting cheese in France. Pasteurised into tasteless oblivionydoethur said:
I’m intrigued. Would you have not been too bothered if it had been bad Brie?SandyRentool said:
What's that? A tariff on Good Brie? To the barricades, Comrades!FF43 said:
The big Brexit news yesterday was the tariff schedule. If the UK doesn't agree an FTA with the EU by December we will be paying an extra £1 per litre for imported olive oil, £1.26 to £1.60 per kilogramme for imported cheese, 14% on fresh vegetables, canned tomatoes etc. something ridiculous for yoghurt.eadric said:
It really won’t. Covid-19 is a disaster. Hard Brexit is a modest prang in comparison. We might not even notice, amidst the horror of a second waveMikeSmithson said:
Except walking away will be a disaster whatever Boris fanboys sayPhilip_Thompson said:FPT
Because the EU don't want us to walk away and the government is prepared to do so.williamglenn said:
Why should Barnier care about UK public opinion, or to put it differently, why is UK public opinion more important than EU27 public opinion?Philip_Thompson said:
I think if we end up walking away then in the battle of public opinion the UK government has easily won this round over Barnier.williamglenn said:"There is no automatic entitlement to any benefits that the EU may have offered or granted in other contexts and circumstances to other, often very different, partners."
https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier/status/1263118957944483842
Quoting chapter and verse what they're looking for, why its been deemed acceptable before and to whom was a stroke of genius. Barnier stammering that the UK can't get the same without a reason is going to impress nobody neutral.
The UK holds the cards.
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Relieving oneself in a public toilet, of any kind, anywhere, is a bridge too far...Pulpstar said:Lol "Skegness beach had one public toilet available"
One public toilet available in a pandemic is a terrible idea, you're best off with either zero so people use their own campervan, the woods or the sea; or loads open (That encourages people I suppose though).
One is probably the worst number, must have been absolubtely wretched at the end of the day and likely a Covid risk.
The clue lies in the name...public (not good) and toilet (not good)....and combine the two....and there you have it.....
I am more likely to seek out Katie Hopkins contributions on social media.....than venture to a public toilet...
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Nice FTA with Oz should be incoming you’d have thought for all that beef and Mediterranean produce.another_richard said:
So canned tomatoes will go up by 5p.FF43 said:
The big Brexit news yesterday was the tariff schedule. If the UK doesn'teadric said:
It really won’t. Covid-19 is a disaster. Hard Brexit is a modest prang in comparison. We might not even notice, amidst the horror of a second waveMikeSmithson said:
Except walking away will be a disaster whatever Boris fanboys sayPhilip_Thompson said:FPT
Because the EU don't want us to walk away and the government is prepared to do so.williamglenn said:
Why should Barnier care about UK public opinion, or to put it differently, why is UK public opinion more important than EU27 public opinion?Philip_Thompson said:
I think if we end up walking away then in the battle of public opinion the UK government has easily won this round over Barnier.williamglenn said:"There is no automatic entitlement to any benefits that the EU may have offered or granted in other contexts and circumstances to other, often very different, partners."
https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier/status/1263118957944483842
Quoting chapter and verse what they're looking for, why its been deemed acceptable before and to whom was a stroke of genius. Barnier stammering that the UK can't get the same without a reason is going to impress nobody neutral.
The UK holds the cards.
agree an FTA with the EU by December we will be paying an extra £1 per litre for imported olive oil, £1.26 to £1.60 per kilogramme for imported cheese, 14% on fresh vegetables, canned tomatoes etc. something ridiculous for yoghurt.
Not quite covid or climate change is it.0 -
Well you may be the expert on creating stupid comments but that doesn't necessarily qualify you to detect them.eadric said:
Hahahahahahanotherex_tory said:
Actually, Brexit is like Polio an utterly pernicious multilateral infection which causes debilitating and permanent damage. It could be a limp, nerve damage or paralysis but damage will be done either way and its permanent. The other similarity to Brexit is that Polio is caused by swallowing faecal matter.eadric said:Mexicanpete said:
So its a bit like having a foot removed, a mere trifle and not of any consequence whatsover in comparison to having the offending leg amputated instead?eadric said:
It really won’t. Covid-19 is a disaster. Hard Brexit is a modest prang in comparison. We might not even notice, amidst the horror of a second waveMikeSmithson said:
Except walking away will be a disaster whatever Boris fanboys sayPhilip_Thompson said:FPT
Because the EU don't want us to walk away and the government is prepared to do so.williamglenn said:
Why should Barnier care about UK public opinion, or to put it differently, why is UK public opinion more important than EU27 public opinion?Philip_Thompson said:
I think if we end up walking away then in the battle of public opinion the UK government has easily won this round over Barnier.williamglenn said:"There is no automatic entitlement to any benefits that the EU may have offered or granted in other contexts and circumstances to other, often very different, partners."
https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier/status/1263118957944483842
Quoting chapter and verse what they're looking for, why its been deemed acceptable before and to whom was a stroke of genius. Barnier stammering that the UK can't get the same without a reason is going to impress nobody neutral.
The UK holds the cards.
Hard Brexit is not a foot amputation, you spineless cuck. We know this because we now KNOW what a real disaster feels like: as we’re in one.
If you need an analogy Hard Brexit is tonsillitis, Corona is throat cancer.
Covid 19 on the other hand is, well, Covid 19. A disease that kills very few, leaves most unaffected permanently and the outcome depends somewhat on luck but largely on preparation (general health). It seems to be treatable and there will be a vaccine.
In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used - the topic of conversation will still be the fall-out from Brexit and it will continue to be discussed as long as there is an EU for the UK to re- join, leave or remain in i.e. for the rest of my lifetime at least.
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“ In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used”
Congratulations on creating one of the stupidest comments in PB’s illustrious history of stupidity, in just your first hour on the site. Well played.1 -
All those technology lessons must come in handy, what with Zoom cabinet meetings and all...FrancisUrquhart said:Police watchdog to announce decision on Johnson-Arcuri inquiry tomorrow.
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If Trump is polling like this in late mid autumn, he will walk away I reckon.kinabalu said:
He will not reach 200 in the EC.rottenborough said:https://twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/status/1263169008968310786
Wow, or wow. Tell me this is not a voodoo!!!!
Are people finally cottoning on?0 -
I think you missed the fact we're not growing any more, because of CV19. This will be shrinkage over and above.eadric said:
Yes. Quite quite dim. And these are projections of lost potential growth, not immediate shrinkage, a la Covid. What a fucking stupid comment by FoxyFrancisUrquhart said:
They are projectations over many years. coronavirus will do more than that in a few months.Foxy said:
Nah, on government figures Hard Brexit is worse than Coronavirus.eadric said:Mexicanpete said:
So its a bit like having a foot removed, a mere trifle and not of any consequence whatsover in comparison to having the offending leg amputated instead?eadric said:
It really won’t. Covid-19 is a disaster. Hard Brexit is a modest prang in comparison. We might not even notice, amidst the horror of a second waveMikeSmithson said:
Except walking away will be a disaster whatever Boris fanboys sayPhilip_Thompson said:FPT
Because the EU don't want us to walk away and the government is prepared to do so.williamglenn said:
Why should Barnier care about UK public opinion, or to put it differently, why is UK public opinion more important than EU27 public opinion?Philip_Thompson said:
I think if we end up walking away then in the battle of public opinion the UK government has easily won this round over Barnier.williamglenn said:"There is no automatic entitlement to any benefits that the EU may have offered or granted in other contexts and circumstances to other, often very different, partners."
https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier/status/1263118957944483842
Quoting chapter and verse what they're looking for, why its been deemed acceptable before and to whom was a stroke of genius. Barnier stammering that the UK can't get the same without a reason is going to impress nobody neutral.
The UK holds the cards.
Hard Brexit is not a foot amputation, you spineless cuck. We know this because we now KNOW what a real disaster feels like: as we’re in one.
If you need an analogy Hard Brexit is tonsillitis, Corona is throat cancer.1 -
Oh and more to the point, I've been a lurker on this site for over 10 years and I can confirm that in your various guises have come out with the most obvious pissed fart bull-shit I've ever read. I assume the only reason you continue to comment is because you are generally never feeling any pain.eadric said:
Hahahahahahanotherex_tory said:
Actually, Brexit is like Polio an utterly pernicious multilateral infection which causes debilitating and permanent damage. It could be a limp, nerve damage or paralysis but damage will be done either way and its permanent. The other similarity to Brexit is that Polio is caused by swallowing faecal matter.eadric said:Mexicanpete said:
So its a bit like having a foot removed, a mere trifle and not of any consequence whatsover in comparison to having the offending leg amputated instead?eadric said:
It really won’t. Covid-19 is a disaster. Hard Brexit is a modest prang in comparison. We might not even notice, amidst the horror of a second waveMikeSmithson said:
Except walking away will be a disaster whatever Boris fanboys sayPhilip_Thompson said:FPT
Because the EU don't want us to walk away and the government is prepared to do so.williamglenn said:
Why should Barnier care about UK public opinion, or to put it differently, why is UK public opinion more important than EU27 public opinion?Philip_Thompson said:
I think if we end up walking away then in the battle of public opinion the UK government has easily won this round over Barnier.williamglenn said:"There is no automatic entitlement to any benefits that the EU may have offered or granted in other contexts and circumstances to other, often very different, partners."
https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier/status/1263118957944483842
Quoting chapter and verse what they're looking for, why its been deemed acceptable before and to whom was a stroke of genius. Barnier stammering that the UK can't get the same without a reason is going to impress nobody neutral.
The UK holds the cards.
Hard Brexit is not a foot amputation, you spineless cuck. We know this because we now KNOW what a real disaster feels like: as we’re in one.
If you need an analogy Hard Brexit is tonsillitis, Corona is throat cancer.
Covid 19 on the other hand is, well, Covid 19. A disease that kills very few, leaves most unaffected permanently and the outcome depends somewhat on luck but largely on preparation (general health). It seems to be treatable and there will be a vaccine.
In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used - the topic of conversation will still be the fall-out from Brexit and it will continue to be discussed as long as there is an EU for the UK to re- join, leave or remain in i.e. for the rest of my lifetime at least.
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“ In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used”
Congratulations on creating one of the stupidest comments in PB’s illustrious history of stupidity, in just your first hour on the site. Well played.1 -
The combined effect is likely smaller than if they were to occur separately.FF43 said:
I think you missed the fact we're not growing any more, because of CV19. This will be shrinkage over and above.eadric said:
Yes. Quite quite dim. And these are projections of lost potential growth, not immediate shrinkage, a la Covid. What a fucking stupid comment by FoxyFrancisUrquhart said:
They are projectations over many years. coronavirus will do more than that in a few months.Foxy said:
Nah, on government figures Hard Brexit is worse than Coronavirus.eadric said:Mexicanpete said:
So its a bit like having a foot removed, a mere trifle and not of any consequence whatsover in comparison to having the offending leg amputated instead?eadric said:
It really won’t. Covid-19 is a disaster. Hard Brexit is a modest prang in comparison. We might not even notice, amidst the horror of a second waveMikeSmithson said:
Except walking away will be a disaster whatever Boris fanboys sayPhilip_Thompson said:FPT
Because the EU don't want us to walk away and the government is prepared to do so.williamglenn said:
Why should Barnier care about UK public opinion, or to put it differently, why is UK public opinion more important than EU27 public opinion?Philip_Thompson said:
I think if we end up walking away then in the battle of public opinion the UK government has easily won this round over Barnier.williamglenn said:"There is no automatic entitlement to any benefits that the EU may have offered or granted in other contexts and circumstances to other, often very different, partners."
https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier/status/1263118957944483842
Quoting chapter and verse what they're looking for, why its been deemed acceptable before and to whom was a stroke of genius. Barnier stammering that the UK can't get the same without a reason is going to impress nobody neutral.
The UK holds the cards.
Hard Brexit is not a foot amputation, you spineless cuck. We know this because we now KNOW what a real disaster feels like: as we’re in one.
If you need an analogy Hard Brexit is tonsillitis, Corona is throat cancer.0 -
So you agree that the impact of Hard Brexit is a little more severe, just more drawn out?FrancisUrquhart said:
They are projectations over many years. coronavirus will do more than that in a few months.Foxy said:
Nah, on government figures Hard Brexit is worse than Coronavirus.eadric said:Mexicanpete said:
So its a bit like having a foot removed, a mere trifle and not of any consequence whatsover in comparison to having the offending leg amputated instead?eadric said:
It really won’t. Covid-19 is a disaster. Hard Brexit is a modest prang in comparison. We might not even notice, amidst the horror of a second waveMikeSmithson said:
Except walking away will be a disaster whatever Boris fanboys sayPhilip_Thompson said:FPT
Because the EU don't want us to walk away and the government is prepared to do so.williamglenn said:
Why should Barnier care about UK public opinion, or to put it differently, why is UK public opinion more important than EU27 public opinion?Philip_Thompson said:
I think if we end up walking away then in the battle of public opinion the UK government has easily won this round over Barnier.williamglenn said:"There is no automatic entitlement to any benefits that the EU may have offered or granted in other contexts and circumstances to other, often very different, partners."
https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier/status/1263118957944483842
Quoting chapter and verse what they're looking for, why its been deemed acceptable before and to whom was a stroke of genius. Barnier stammering that the UK can't get the same without a reason is going to impress nobody neutral.
The UK holds the cards.
Hard Brexit is not a foot amputation, you spineless cuck. We know this because we now KNOW what a real disaster feels like: as we’re in one.
If you need an analogy Hard Brexit is tonsillitis, Corona is throat cancer.0 -
No we are not.CorrectHorseBattery said:We are headed for No Deal and the the Government is going to pretend Coronavirus is the cause of the economic downturn.
'No Deal', as we were told daily at the time, is 'falling off a cliff', planes being grounded etc. As we were also told at the time, it is not the same as 'hard brexit', it is by orders of magnitude more serious.
So why have the same people now switched to saying we are heading for 'no deal', when 'hard brexit' covers the scenario admirably and was their 'scary' phrase in the first place?
It is simply flagrant duplicity - and then you winge that the proles won't just shut up and take your word for things? It's really not as cunning as you all seem to believe it is.
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Test to tested ratio up from BOGOF
To get one get two free
WTF is that all about 177k tests is £60k people
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I'd ignore Eadric...antotherexx....he is this site's Michael Moore polemicist...and anyone is fair game.......but, sadly, his posts are readable.....eadric said:
Trust me. After our economy shrinks by 10-20% in 6 months, along with economies all around the world, and we enter a recession so severe its like is not within the purview of living memory, the chances are we still remember it in about 18 months are “quite high”anotherex_tory said:
Well you may be the expert on creating stupid comments but that doesn't necessarily qualify you to detect them.eadric said:
Hahahahahahanotherex_tory said:
Actually, Brexit is like Polio an utterly pernicious multilateral infection which causes debilitating and permanent damage. It could be a limp, nerve damage or paralysis but damage will be done either way and its permanent. The other similarity to Brexit is that Polio is caused by swallowing faecal matter.eadric said:Mexicanpete said:
So its a bit like having a foot removed, a mere trifle and not of any consequence whatsover in comparison to having the offending leg amputated instead?eadric said:
It really won’t. Covid-19 is a disaster. Hard Brexit is a modest prang in comparison. We might not even notice, amidst the horror of a second waveMikeSmithson said:
Except walking away will be a disaster whatever Boris fanboys sayPhilip_Thompson said:FPT
Because the EU don't want us to walk away and the government is prepared to do so.williamglenn said:
Why should Barnier care about UK public opinion, or to put it differently, why is UK public opinion more important than EU27 public opinion?Philip_Thompson said:
I think if we end up walking away then in the battle of public opinion the UK government has easily won this round over Barnier.williamglenn said:"There is no automatic entitlement to any benefits that the EU may have offered or granted in other contexts and circumstances to other, often very different, partners."
https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier/status/1263118957944483842
Quoting chapter and verse what they're looking for, why its been deemed acceptable before and to whom was a stroke of genius. Barnier stammering that the UK can't get the same without a reason is going to impress nobody neutral.
The UK holds the cards.
Hard Brexit is not a foot amputation, you spineless cuck. We know this because we now KNOW what a real disaster feels like: as we’re in one.
If you need an analogy Hard Brexit is tonsillitis, Corona is throat cancer.
Covid 19 on the other hand is, well, Covid 19. A disease that kills very few, leaves most unaffected permanently and the outcome depends somewhat on luck but largely on preparation (general health). It seems to be treatable and there will be a vaccine.
In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used - the topic of conversation will still be the fall-out from Brexit and it will continue to be discussed as long as there is an EU for the UK to re- join, leave or remain in i.e. for the rest of my lifetime at least.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
“ In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used”
Congratulations on creating one of the stupidest comments in PB’s illustrious history of stupidity, in just your first hour on the site. Well played.
Even if we get a vaccine, as you so poignantly assume.
But be of good cheer. You have set a standard. It normally takes new commenters about 4-6 weeks to reveal themselves as goggle-eyed pinheads, you’ve done it in fifteen minutes
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No, the graphic you showed was difference of long term forecast gdp GROWTH compared to status quo. CV is crashing actual GDP now.Foxy said:
So you agree that the impact of Hard Brexit is a little more severe, just more drawn out?FrancisUrquhart said:
They are projectations over many years. coronavirus will do more than that in a few months.Foxy said:
Nah, on government figures Hard Brexit is worse than Coronavirus.eadric said:Mexicanpete said:
So its a bit like having a foot removed, a mere trifle and not of any consequence whatsover in comparison to having the offending leg amputated instead?eadric said:
It really won’t. Covid-19 is a disaster. Hard Brexit is a modest prang in comparison. We might not even notice, amidst the horror of a second waveMikeSmithson said:
Except walking away will be a disaster whatever Boris fanboys sayPhilip_Thompson said:FPT
Because the EU don't want us to walk away and the government is prepared to do so.williamglenn said:
Why should Barnier care about UK public opinion, or to put it differently, why is UK public opinion more important than EU27 public opinion?Philip_Thompson said:
I think if we end up walking away then in the battle of public opinion the UK government has easily won this round over Barnier.williamglenn said:"There is no automatic entitlement to any benefits that the EU may have offered or granted in other contexts and circumstances to other, often very different, partners."
https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier/status/1263118957944483842
Quoting chapter and verse what they're looking for, why its been deemed acceptable before and to whom was a stroke of genius. Barnier stammering that the UK can't get the same without a reason is going to impress nobody neutral.
The UK holds the cards.
Hard Brexit is not a foot amputation, you spineless cuck. We know this because we now KNOW what a real disaster feels like: as we’re in one.
If you need an analogy Hard Brexit is tonsillitis, Corona is throat cancer.0 -
What recession? I made back all my losses from March in the last six weeks. EM stocks are going wild and there is no chance of a global depression thanks to CB and government action.eadric said:
Trust me. After our economy shrinks by 10-20% in 6 months, along with economies all around the world, and we enter a recession so severe its like is not within the purview of living memory, the chances are we still remember it in about 18 months are “quite high”anotherex_tory said:
Well you may be the expert on creating stupid comments but that doesn't necessarily qualify you to detect them.eadric said:
Hahahahahahanotherex_tory said:
Actually, Brexit is like Polio an utterly pernicious multilateral infection which causes debilitating and permanent damage. It could be a limp, nerve damage or paralysis but damage will be done either way and its permanent. The other similarity to Brexit is that Polio is caused by swallowing faecal matter.eadric said:Mexicanpete said:
So its a bit like having a foot removed, a mere trifle and not of any consequence whatsover in comparison to having the offending leg amputated instead?eadric said:
It really won’t. Covid-19 is a disaster. Hard Brexit is a modest prang in comparison. We might not even notice, amidst the horror of a second waveMikeSmithson said:
Except walking away will be a disaster whatever Boris fanboys sayPhilip_Thompson said:FPT
Because the EU don't want us to walk away and the government is prepared to do so.williamglenn said:
Why should Barnier care about UK public opinion, or to put it differently, why is UK public opinion more important than EU27 public opinion?Philip_Thompson said:
I think if we end up walking away then in the battle of public opinion the UK government has easily won this round over Barnier.williamglenn said:"There is no automatic entitlement to any benefits that the EU may have offered or granted in other contexts and circumstances to other, often very different, partners."
https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier/status/1263118957944483842
Quoting chapter and verse what they're looking for, why its been deemed acceptable before and to whom was a stroke of genius. Barnier stammering that the UK can't get the same without a reason is going to impress nobody neutral.
The UK holds the cards.
Hard Brexit is not a foot amputation, you spineless cuck. We know this because we now KNOW what a real disaster feels like: as we’re in one.
If you need an analogy Hard Brexit is tonsillitis, Corona is throat cancer.
Covid 19 on the other hand is, well, Covid 19. A disease that kills very few, leaves most unaffected permanently and the outcome depends somewhat on luck but largely on preparation (general health). It seems to be treatable and there will be a vaccine.
In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used - the topic of conversation will still be the fall-out from Brexit and it will continue to be discussed as long as there is an EU for the UK to re- join, leave or remain in i.e. for the rest of my lifetime at least.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
“ In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used”
Congratulations on creating one of the stupidest comments in PB’s illustrious history of stupidity, in just your first hour on the site. Well played.
Even if we get a vaccine, as you so poignantly assume.
But be of good cheer. You have set a standard. It normally takes new commenters about 4-6 weeks to reveal themselves as goggle-eyed pinheads, you’ve done it in fifteen minutes
I actually found the last crisis more damaging than this. You should probably ditch the breakfast wine as you're clearly into the melancholia phase by 10pm.1 -
When you stop being the site clown and graduate to being the whole circus it’s time to go to bed.eadric said:
Hahahahahahanotherex_tory said:
Actually, Brexit is like Polio an utterly pernicious multilateral infection which causes debilitating and permanent damage. It could be a limp, nerve damage or paralysis but damage will be done either way and its permanent. The other similarity to Brexit is that Polio is caused by swallowing faecal matter.eadric said:Mexicanpete said:
So its a bit like having a foot removed, a mere trifle and not of any consequence whatsover in comparison to having the offending leg amputated instead?eadric said:
It really won’t. Covid-19 is a disaster. Hard Brexit is a modest prang in comparison. We might not even notice, amidst the horror of a second waveMikeSmithson said:
Except walking away will be a disaster whatever Boris fanboys sayPhilip_Thompson said:FPT
Because the EU don't want us to walk away and the government is prepared to do so.williamglenn said:
Why should Barnier care about UK public opinion, or to put it differently, why is UK public opinion more important than EU27 public opinion?Philip_Thompson said:
I think if we end up walking away then in the battle of public opinion the UK government has easily won this round over Barnier.williamglenn said:"There is no automatic entitlement to any benefits that the EU may have offered or granted in other contexts and circumstances to other, often very different, partners."
https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier/status/1263118957944483842
Quoting chapter and verse what they're looking for, why its been deemed acceptable before and to whom was a stroke of genius. Barnier stammering that the UK can't get the same without a reason is going to impress nobody neutral.
The UK holds the cards.
Hard Brexit is not a foot amputation, you spineless cuck. We know this because we now KNOW what a real disaster feels like: as we’re in one.
If you need an analogy Hard Brexit is tonsillitis, Corona is throat cancer.
Covid 19 on the other hand is, well, Covid 19. A disease that kills very few, leaves most unaffected permanently and the outcome depends somewhat on luck but largely on preparation (general health). It seems to be treatable and there will be a vaccine.
In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used - the topic of conversation will still be the fall-out from Brexit and it will continue to be discussed as long as there is an EU for the UK to re- join, leave or remain in i.e. for the rest of my lifetime at least.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
“ In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used”
Congratulations on creating one of the stupidest comments in PB’s illustrious history of stupidity, in just your first hour on the site. Well played.1 -
Specifically, they're the figures produced by a government run by Theresa May and Phillip Hammond, who had a certain agenda they wanted to promote. Unfortunately Hammond was not willing to sanction the release of the full models that produced those projections, presumably from fear that the figures might become discredited when the assumptions underlying them were exposed as being questionable.Foxy said:
Nah, on government figures Hard Brexit is worse than Coronavirus.eadric said:Mexicanpete said:
So its a bit like having a foot removed, a mere trifle and not of any consequence whatsover in comparison to having the offending leg amputated instead?eadric said:
It really won’t. Covid-19 is a disaster. Hard Brexit is a modest prang in comparison. We might not even notice, amidst the horror of a second waveMikeSmithson said:
Except walking away will be a disaster whatever Boris fanboys sayPhilip_Thompson said:FPT
Because the EU don't want us to walk away and the government is prepared to do so.williamglenn said:
Why should Barnier care about UK public opinion, or to put it differently, why is UK public opinion more important than EU27 public opinion?Philip_Thompson said:
I think if we end up walking away then in the battle of public opinion the UK government has easily won this round over Barnier.williamglenn said:"There is no automatic entitlement to any benefits that the EU may have offered or granted in other contexts and circumstances to other, often very different, partners."
https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier/status/1263118957944483842
Quoting chapter and verse what they're looking for, why its been deemed acceptable before and to whom was a stroke of genius. Barnier stammering that the UK can't get the same without a reason is going to impress nobody neutral.
The UK holds the cards.
Hard Brexit is not a foot amputation, you spineless cuck. We know this because we now KNOW what a real disaster feels like: as we’re in one.
If you need an analogy Hard Brexit is tonsillitis, Corona is throat cancer.
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Human beings are resilient. Even if CV-19 had carried off the numbers you'd feared, we'd still be talking about other things in two years time.eadric said:Can we preserve this comment in a large ingot of tariff-free Lithuanian amber?
“In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used”3 -
Its as if PMQ's has been moved online to the PB siteDougSeal said:
When you stop being the site clown and graduate to being the whole circus it’s time to go to bed.eadric said:
Hahahahahahanotherex_tory said:
Actually, Brexit is like Polio an utterly pernicious multilateral infection which causes debilitating and permanent damage. It could be a limp, nerve damage or paralysis but damage will be done either way and its permanent. The other similarity to Brexit is that Polio is caused by swallowing faecal matter.eadric said:Mexicanpete said:
So its a bit like having a foot removed, a mere trifle and not of any consequence whatsover in comparison to having the offending leg amputated instead?eadric said:
It really won’t. Covid-19 is a disaster. Hard Brexit is a modest prang in comparison. We might not even notice, amidst the horror of a second waveMikeSmithson said:
Except walking away will be a disaster whatever Boris fanboys sayPhilip_Thompson said:FPT
Because the EU don't want us to walk away and the government is prepared to do so.williamglenn said:
Why should Barnier care about UK public opinion, or to put it differently, why is UK public opinion more important than EU27 public opinion?Philip_Thompson said:
I think if we end up walking away then in the battle of public opinion the UK government has easily won this round over Barnier.williamglenn said:"There is no automatic entitlement to any benefits that the EU may have offered or granted in other contexts and circumstances to other, often very different, partners."
https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier/status/1263118957944483842
Quoting chapter and verse what they're looking for, why its been deemed acceptable before and to whom was a stroke of genius. Barnier stammering that the UK can't get the same without a reason is going to impress nobody neutral.
The UK holds the cards.
Hard Brexit is not a foot amputation, you spineless cuck. We know this because we now KNOW what a real disaster feels like: as we’re in one.
If you need an analogy Hard Brexit is tonsillitis, Corona is throat cancer.
Covid 19 on the other hand is, well, Covid 19. A disease that kills very few, leaves most unaffected permanently and the outcome depends somewhat on luck but largely on preparation (general health). It seems to be treatable and there will be a vaccine.
In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used - the topic of conversation will still be the fall-out from Brexit and it will continue to be discussed as long as there is an EU for the UK to re- join, leave or remain in i.e. for the rest of my lifetime at least.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
“ In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used”
Congratulations on creating one of the stupidest comments in PB’s illustrious history of stupidity, in just your first hour on the site. Well played.1 -
Why?RobD said:
The combined effect is likely smaller than if they were to occur separately.FF43 said:
I think you missed the fact we're not growing any more, because of CV19. This will be shrinkage over and above.eadric said:
Yes. Quite quite dim. And these are projections of lost potential growth, not immediate shrinkage, a la Covid. What a fucking stupid comment by FoxyFrancisUrquhart said:
They are projectations over many years. coronavirus will do more than that in a few months.Foxy said:
Nah, on government figures Hard Brexit is worse than Coronavirus.eadric said:Mexicanpete said:
So its a bit like having a foot removed, a mere trifle and not of any consequence whatsover in comparison to having the offending leg amputated instead?eadric said:
It really won’t. Covid-19 is a disaster. Hard Brexit is a modest prang in comparison. We might not even notice, amidst the horror of a second waveMikeSmithson said:
Except walking away will be a disaster whatever Boris fanboys sayPhilip_Thompson said:FPT
Because the EU don't want us to walk away and the government is prepared to do so.williamglenn said:
Why should Barnier care about UK public opinion, or to put it differently, why is UK public opinion more important than EU27 public opinion?Philip_Thompson said:
I think if we end up walking away then in the battle of public opinion the UK government has easily won this round over Barnier.williamglenn said:"There is no automatic entitlement to any benefits that the EU may have offered or granted in other contexts and circumstances to other, often very different, partners."
https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier/status/1263118957944483842
Quoting chapter and verse what they're looking for, why its been deemed acceptable before and to whom was a stroke of genius. Barnier stammering that the UK can't get the same without a reason is going to impress nobody neutral.
The UK holds the cards.
Hard Brexit is not a foot amputation, you spineless cuck. We know this because we now KNOW what a real disaster feels like: as we’re in one.
If you need an analogy Hard Brexit is tonsillitis, Corona is throat cancer.
FWIW I'm not massively wedded to these predictions, but if anything I think it's made worse, not better by CV19. The Brexit economic damage has always been to do with investment IMO. Brexit makes discretionary investment in the UK unattractive. If you have an operation in the UK already you will normally keep it going. The CV19 depression will see massive disinvestment, which will fall particularly heavily on the UK. When deciding which factory or branch to close, the UK operation will get the chop.0 -
They're kind of rambling, like Ulysses but with less of a focus. I assume he comments here because whoever exists with him doesn't want to hear his inarticulate ravings. Its amazing he can type when he's clearly four sheets to the wind.tyson said:
I'd ignore Eadric...antotherexx....he is this site's Michael Moore polemicist...and anyone is fair game.......but, sadly, his posts are readable.....eadric said:
Trust me. After our economy shrinks by 10-20% in 6 months, along with economies all around the world, and we enter a recession so severe its like is not within the purview of living memory, the chances are we still remember it in about 18 months are “quite high”anotherex_tory said:
Well you may be the expert on creating stupid comments but that doesn't necessarily qualify you to detect them.eadric said:
Hahahahahahanotherex_tory said:
Actually, Brexit is like Polio an utterly pernicious multilateral infection which causes debilitating and permanent damage. It could be a limp, nerve damage or paralysis but damage will be done either way and its permanent. The other similarity to Brexit is that Polio is caused by swallowing faecal matter.eadric said:Mexicanpete said:
So its a bit like having a foot removed, a mere trifle and not of any consequence whatsover in comparison to having the offending leg amputated instead?eadric said:
It really won’t. Covid-19 is a disaster. Hard Brexit is a modest prang in comparison. We might not even notice, amidst the horror of a second waveMikeSmithson said:
Except walking away will be a disaster whatever Boris fanboys sayPhilip_Thompson said:FPT
Because the EU don't want us to walk away and the government is prepared to do so.williamglenn said:
Why should Barnier care about UK public opinion, or to put it differently, why is UK public opinion more important than EU27 public opinion?Philip_Thompson said:
I think if we end up walking away then in the battle of public opinion the UK government has easily won this round over Barnier.williamglenn said:"There is no automatic entitlement to any benefits that the EU may have offered or granted in other contexts and circumstances to other, often very different, partners."
https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier/status/1263118957944483842
Quoting chapter and verse what they're looking for, why its been deemed acceptable before and to whom was a stroke of genius. Barnier stammering that the UK can't get the same without a reason is going to impress nobody neutral.
The UK holds the cards.
Hard Brexit is not a foot amputation, you spineless cuck. We know this because we now KNOW what a real disaster feels like: as we’re in one.
If you need an analogy Hard Brexit is tonsillitis, Corona is throat cancer.
Covid 19 on the other hand is, well, Covid 19. A disease that kills very few, leaves most unaffected permanently and the outcome depends somewhat on luck but largely on preparation (general health). It seems to be treatable and there will be a vaccine.
In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used - the topic of conversation will still be the fall-out from Brexit and it will continue to be discussed as long as there is an EU for the UK to re- join, leave or remain in i.e. for the rest of my lifetime at least.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
“ In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used”
Congratulations on creating one of the stupidest comments in PB’s illustrious history of stupidity, in just your first hour on the site. Well played.
Even if we get a vaccine, as you so poignantly assume.
But be of good cheer. You have set a standard. It normally takes new commenters about 4-6 weeks to reveal themselves as goggle-eyed pinheads, you’ve done it in fifteen minutes1 -
Try not to fall asleep in the dog bed again.eadric said:
Anotherex-Tory has quite cheered me uptyson said:
I'd ignore Eadric...antotherexx....he is this site's Michael Moore polemicist...and anyone is fair game.......but, sadly, his posts are readable.....eadric said:
Trust me. After our economy shrinks by 10-20% in 6 months, along with economies all around the world, and we enter a recession so severe its like is not within the purview of living memory, the chances are we still remember it in about 18 months are “quite high”anotherex_tory said:
Well you may be the expert on creating stupid comments but that doesn't necessarily qualify you to detect them.eadric said:
Hahahahahahanotherex_tory said:
Actually, Brexit is like Polio an utterly pernicious multilateral infection which causes debilitating and permanent damage. It could be a limp, nerve damage or paralysis but damage will be done either way and its permanent. The other similarity to Brexit is that Polio is caused by swallowing faecal matter.eadric said:Mexicanpete said:
So its a bit like having a foot removed, a mere trifle and not of any consequence whatsover in comparison to having the offending leg amputated instead?eadric said:
It really won’t. Covid-19 is a disaster. Hard Brexit is a modest prang in comparison. We might not even notice, amidst the horror of a second waveMikeSmithson said:
Except walking away will be a disaster whatever Boris fanboys sayPhilip_Thompson said:FPT
Because the EU don't want us to walk away and the government is prepared to do so.williamglenn said:
Why should Barnier care about UK public opinion, or to put it differently, why is UK public opinion more important than EU27 public opinion?Philip_Thompson said:
I think if we end up walking away then in the battle of public opinion the UK government has easily won this round over Barnier.williamglenn said:"There is no automatic entitlement to any benefits that the EU may have offered or granted in other contexts and circumstances to other, often very different, partners."
https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier/status/1263118957944483842
Quoting chapter and verse what they're looking for, why its been deemed acceptable before and to whom was a stroke of genius. Barnier stammering that the UK can't get the same without a reason is going to impress nobody neutral.
The UK holds the cards.
Hard Brexit is not a foot amputation, you spineless cuck. We know this because we now KNOW what a real disaster feels like: as we’re in one.
If you need an analogy Hard Brexit is tonsillitis, Corona is throat cancer.
Covid 19 on the other hand is, well, Covid 19. A disease that kills very few, leaves most unaffected permanently and the outcome depends somewhat on luck but largely on preparation (general health). It seems to be treatable and there will be a vaccine.
In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used - the topic of conversation will still be the fall-out from Brexit and it will continue to be discussed as long as there is an EU for the UK to re- join, leave or remain in i.e. for the rest of my lifetime at least.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
“ In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used”
Congratulations on creating one of the stupidest comments in PB’s illustrious history of stupidity, in just your first hour on the site. Well played.
Even if we get a vaccine, as you so poignantly assume.
But be of good cheer. You have set a standard. It normally takes new commenters about 4-6 weeks to reveal themselves as goggle-eyed pinheads, you’ve done it in fifteen minutes
“In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used“
It’s worthy of Rogerdamus at his best. And Roger was good. I miss him.
Buenos Noches, I am off to watch Narcos Mexico, which is rather fine.1 -
I'm slightly surprised we have such a high tariff on olive oil planned. (That's one thing where I'm afraid we are probably still going to have to buy from the EU.)welshowl said:
Nice FTA with Oz should be incoming you’d have thought for all that beef and Mediterranean produce.another_richard said:
So canned tomatoes will go up by 5p.FF43 said:
The big Brexit news yesterday was the tariff schedule. If the UK doesn'teadric said:
It really won’t. Covid-19 is a disaster. Hard Brexit is a modest prang in comparison. We might not even notice, amidst the horror of a second waveMikeSmithson said:
Except walking away will be a disaster whatever Boris fanboys sayPhilip_Thompson said:FPT
Because the EU don't want us to walk away and the government is prepared to do so.williamglenn said:
Why should Barnier care about UK public opinion, or to put it differently, why is UK public opinion more important than EU27 public opinion?Philip_Thompson said:
I think if we end up walking away then in the battle of public opinion the UK government has easily won this round over Barnier.williamglenn said:"There is no automatic entitlement to any benefits that the EU may have offered or granted in other contexts and circumstances to other, often very different, partners."
https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier/status/1263118957944483842
Quoting chapter and verse what they're looking for, why its been deemed acceptable before and to whom was a stroke of genius. Barnier stammering that the UK can't get the same without a reason is going to impress nobody neutral.
The UK holds the cards.
agree an FTA with the EU by December we will be paying an extra £1 per litre for imported olive oil, £1.26 to £1.60 per kilogramme for imported cheese, 14% on fresh vegetables, canned tomatoes etc. something ridiculous for yoghurt.
Not quite covid or climate change is it.0 -
That was rather the point I was making, in contrast to the bibulous catastrophist's views.rcs1000 said:
Human beings are resilient. Even if CV-19 had carried off the numbers you'd feared, we'd still be talking about other things in two years time.eadric said:Can we preserve this comment in a large ingot of tariff-free Lithuanian amber?
“In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used”0 -
Rolls Royce boss sees decline "in medium term" in commercial aerospace travel of 1/3.0
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anotherex_tory said:
What recession? I made back all my losses from March in the last six weeks. EM stocks are going wild and there is no chance of a global depression thanks to CB and government action.eadric said:
Trust me. After our economy shrinks by 10-20% in 6 months, along with economies all around the world, and we enter a recession so severe its like is not within the purview of living memory, the chances are we still remember it in about 18 months are “quite high”anotherex_tory said:
Well you may be the expert on creating stupid comments but that doesn't necessarily qualify you to detect them.eadric said:
Hahahahahahanotherex_tory said:
Actually, Brexit is like Polio an utterly pernicious multilateral infection which causes debilitating and permanent damage. It could be a limp, nerve damage or paralysis but damage will be done either way and its permanent. The other similarity to Brexit is that Polio is caused by swallowing faecal matter.eadric said:Mexicanpete said:
So its a bit like having a foot removed, a mere trifle and not of any consequence whatsover in comparison to having the offending leg amputated instead?eadric said:
It really won’t. Covid-19 is a disaster. Hard Brexit is a modest prang in comparison. We might not even notice, amidst the horror of a second waveMikeSmithson said:
Except walking away will be a disaster whatever Boris fanboys sayPhilip_Thompson said:FPT
Because the EU don't want us to walk away and the government is prepared to do so.williamglenn said:
Why should Barnier care about UK public opinion, or to put it differently, why is UK public opinion more important than EU27 public opinion?Philip_Thompson said:
I think if we end up walking away then in the battle of public opinion the UK government has easily won this round over Barnier.williamglenn said:"There is no automatic entitlement to any benefits that the EU may have offered or granted in other contexts and circumstances to other, often very different, partners."
https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier/status/1263118957944483842
Quoting chapter and verse what they're looking for, why its been deemed acceptable before and to whom was a stroke of genius. Barnier stammering that the UK can't get the same without a reason is going to impress nobody neutral.
The UK holds the cards.
Hard Brexit is not a foot amputation, you spineless cuck. We know this because we now KNOW what a real disaster feels like: as we’re in one.
If you need an analogy Hard Brexit is tonsillitis, Corona is throat cancer.
Covid 19 on the other hand is, well, Covid 19. A disease that kills very few, leaves most unaffected permanently and the outcome depends somewhat on luck but largely on preparation (general health). It seems to be treatable and there will be a vaccine.
In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used - the topic of conversation will still be the fall-out from Brexit and it will continue to be discussed as long as there is an EU for the UK to re- join, leave or remain in i.e. for the rest of my lifetime at least.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
“ In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used”
Congratulations on creating one of the stupidest comments in PB’s illustrious history of stupidity, in just your first hour on the site. Well played.
Even if we get a vaccine, as you so poignantly assume.
But be of good cheer. You have set a standard. It normally takes new commenters about 4-6 weeks to reveal themselves as goggle-eyed pinheads, you’ve done it in fifteen minutes
I actually found the last crisis more damaging than this. You should probably ditch the breakfast wine as you're clearly into the melancholia phase by 10pm.
There will be a catastrophic hit on financial markets in the next 6 months....at some point the real economy is going to impact on equity markets, and then the banks get tugged down....
It's OK for people who play on high risk short term strategies...but for our pensions this is just going to be shit.....
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Sure, one is in the present, the other is a forecast (an ONS one). Forecasts can be wrong, but the Confidence Intervals are both sides. It could be an underestimate as much as an overestimate.FrancisUrquhart said:
No, the graphic you showed was difference of long term forecast gdp GROWTH compared to status quo. CV is crashing actual GDP now.Foxy said:
So you agree that the impact of Hard Brexit is a little more severe, just more drawn out?FrancisUrquhart said:
They are projectations over many years. coronavirus will do more than that in a few months.Foxy said:
Nah, on government figures Hard Brexit is worse than Coronavirus.eadric said:Mexicanpete said:
So its a bit like having a foot removed, a mere trifle and not of any consequence whatsover in comparison to having the offending leg amputated instead?eadric said:
It really won’t. Covid-19 is a disaster. Hard Brexit is a modest prang in comparison. We might not even notice, amidst the horror of a second waveMikeSmithson said:
Except walking away will be a disaster whatever Boris fanboys sayPhilip_Thompson said:FPT
Because the EU don't want us to walk away and the government is prepared to do so.williamglenn said:
Why should Barnier care about UK public opinion, or to put it differently, why is UK public opinion more important than EU27 public opinion?Philip_Thompson said:
I think if we end up walking away then in the battle of public opinion the UK government has easily won this round over Barnier.williamglenn said:"There is no automatic entitlement to any benefits that the EU may have offered or granted in other contexts and circumstances to other, often very different, partners."
https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier/status/1263118957944483842
Quoting chapter and verse what they're looking for, why its been deemed acceptable before and to whom was a stroke of genius. Barnier stammering that the UK can't get the same without a reason is going to impress nobody neutral.
The UK holds the cards.
Hard Brexit is not a foot amputation, you spineless cuck. We know this because we now KNOW what a real disaster feels like: as we’re in one.
If you need an analogy Hard Brexit is tonsillitis, Corona is throat cancer.
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What happened to Roger?eadric said:
Anotherex-Tory has quite cheered me uptyson said:
I'd ignore Eadric...antotherexx....he is this site's Michael Moore polemicist...and anyone is fair game.......but, sadly, his posts are readable.....eadric said:
Trust me. After our economy shrinks by 10-20% in 6 months, along with economies all around the world, and we enter a recession so severe its like is not within the purview of living memory, the chances are we still remember it in about 18 months are “quite high”anotherex_tory said:
Well you may be the expert on creating stupid comments but that doesn't necessarily qualify you to detect them.eadric said:
Hahahahahahanotherex_tory said:
Actually, Brexit is like Polio an utterly pernicious multilateral infection which causes debilitating and permanent damage. It could be a limp, nerve damage or paralysis but damage will be done either way and its permanent. The other similarity to Brexit is that Polio is caused by swallowing faecal matter.eadric said:Mexicanpete said:
So its a bit like having a foot removed, a mere trifle and not of any consequence whatsover in comparison to having the offending leg amputated instead?eadric said:
It really won’t. Covid-19 is a disaster. Hard Brexit is a modest prang in comparison. We might not even notice, amidst the horror of a second waveMikeSmithson said:
Except walking away will be a disaster whatever Boris fanboys sayPhilip_Thompson said:FPT
Because the EU don't want us to walk away and the government is prepared to do so.williamglenn said:
Why should Barnier care about UK public opinion, or to put it differently, why is UK public opinion more important than EU27 public opinion?Philip_Thompson said:
I think if we end up walking away then in the battle of public opinion the UK government has easily won this round over Barnier.williamglenn said:"There is no automatic entitlement to any benefits that the EU may have offered or granted in other contexts and circumstances to other, often very different, partners."
https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier/status/1263118957944483842
Quoting chapter and verse what they're looking for, why its been deemed acceptable before and to whom was a stroke of genius. Barnier stammering that the UK can't get the same without a reason is going to impress nobody neutral.
The UK holds the cards.
Hard Brexit is not a foot amputation, you spineless cuck. We know this because we now KNOW what a real disaster feels like: as we’re in one.
If you need an analogy Hard Brexit is tonsillitis, Corona is throat cancer.
Covid 19 on the other hand is, well, Covid 19. A disease that kills very few, leaves most unaffected permanently and the outcome depends somewhat on luck but largely on preparation (general health). It seems to be treatable and there will be a vaccine.
In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used - the topic of conversation will still be the fall-out from Brexit and it will continue to be discussed as long as there is an EU for the UK to re- join, leave or remain in i.e. for the rest of my lifetime at least.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
“ In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used”
Congratulations on creating one of the stupidest comments in PB’s illustrious history of stupidity, in just your first hour on the site. Well played.
Even if we get a vaccine, as you so poignantly assume.
But be of good cheer. You have set a standard. It normally takes new commenters about 4-6 weeks to reveal themselves as goggle-eyed pinheads, you’ve done it in fifteen minutes
“In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used“
It’s worthy of Rogerdamus at his best. And Roger was good. I miss him.
Buenos Noches, I am off to watch Narcos Mexico, which is rather fine.
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The debate regarding pineapple pizza will never be settled. Religions have been founded over less.rcs1000 said:
Human beings are resilient. Even if CV-19 had carried off the numbers you'd feared, we'd still be talking about other things in two years time.eadric said:Can we preserve this comment in a large ingot of tariff-free Lithuanian amber?
“In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used”0 -
Maybe we can start getting stats (care home numbers can be added later) on how much Covid -19 is mentioned on here each day and see if we can get the R below 1 so it fizzles out and we get Brexit-2 or even Trump-3anotherex_tory said:
That was rather the point I was making, in contrast to the bibulous catastrophist's views.rcs1000 said:
Human beings are resilient. Even if CV-19 had carried off the numbers you'd feared, we'd still be talking about other things in two years time.eadric said:Can we preserve this comment in a large ingot of tariff-free Lithuanian amber?
“In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used”0 -
One of Mr @eadric 's USP is the ability to type after two bottles of fine red.anotherex_tory said:
They're kind of rambling, like Ulysses but with less of a focus. I assume he comments here because whoever exists with him doesn't want to hear his inarticulate ravings. Its amazing he can type when he's clearly four sheets to the wind.tyson said:
I'd ignore Eadric...antotherexx....he is this site's Michael Moore polemicist...and anyone is fair game.......but, sadly, his posts are readable.....eadric said:
Trust me. After our economy shrinks by 10-20% in 6 months, along with economies all around the world, and we enter a recession so severe its like is not within the purview of living memory, the chances are we still remember it in about 18 months are “quite high”anotherex_tory said:
Well you may be the expert on creating stupid comments but that doesn't necessarily qualify you to detect them.eadric said:
Hahahahahahanotherex_tory said:
Actually, Brexit is like Polio an utterly pernicious multilateral infection which causes debilitating and permanent damage. It could be a limp, nerve damage or paralysis but damage will be done either way and its permanent. The other similarity to Brexit is that Polio is caused by swallowing faecal matter.eadric said:Mexicanpete said:
So its a bit like having a foot removed, a mere trifle and not of any consequence whatsover in comparison to having the offending leg amputated instead?eadric said:
It really won’t. Covid-19 is a disaster. Hard Brexit is a modest prang in comparison. We might not even notice, amidst the horror of a second waveMikeSmithson said:
Except walking away will be a disaster whatever Boris fanboys sayPhilip_Thompson said:FPT
Because the EU don't want us to walk away and the government is prepared to do so.williamglenn said:
Why should Barnier care about UK public opinion, or to put it differently, why is UK public opinion more important than EU27 public opinion?Philip_Thompson said:
I think if we end up walking away then in the battle of public opinion the UK government has easily won this round over Barnier.williamglenn said:"There is no automatic entitlement to any benefits that the EU may have offered or granted in other contexts and circumstances to other, often very different, partners."
https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier/status/1263118957944483842
Quoting chapter and verse what they're looking for, why its been deemed acceptable before and to whom was a stroke of genius. Barnier stammering that the UK can't get the same without a reason is going to impress nobody neutral.
The UK holds the cards.
Hard Brexit is not a foot amputation, you spineless cuck. We know this because we now KNOW what a real disaster feels like: as we’re in one.
If you need an analogy Hard Brexit is tonsillitis, Corona is throat cancer.
Covid 19 on the other hand is, well, Covid 19. A disease that kills very few, leaves most unaffected permanently and the outcome depends somewhat on luck but largely on preparation (general health). It seems to be treatable and there will be a vaccine.
In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used - the topic of conversation will still be the fall-out from Brexit and it will continue to be discussed as long as there is an EU for the UK to re- join, leave or remain in i.e. for the rest of my lifetime at least.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
“ In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used”
Congratulations on creating one of the stupidest comments in PB’s illustrious history of stupidity, in just your first hour on the site. Well played.
Even if we get a vaccine, as you so poignantly assume.
But be of good cheer. You have set a standard. It normally takes new commenters about 4-6 weeks to reveal themselves as goggle-eyed pinheads, you’ve done it in fifteen minutes
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80p on a half litre bottle? Not exactly going to break the bank, even if there is also a Sterling devaluation relative to the Euro.rcs1000 said:
I'm slightly surprised we have such a high tariff on olive oil planned. (That's one thing where I'm afraid we are probably still going to have to buy from the EU.)welshowl said:
Nice FTA with Oz should be incoming you’d have thought for all that beef and Mediterranean produce.another_richard said:
So canned tomatoes will go up by 5p.FF43 said:
The big Brexit news yesterday was the tariff schedule. If the UK doesn'teadric said:
It really won’t. Covid-19 is a disaster. Hard Brexit is a modest prang in comparison. We might not even notice, amidst the horror of a second waveMikeSmithson said:
Except walking away will be a disaster whatever Boris fanboys sayPhilip_Thompson said:FPT
Because the EU don't want us to walk away and the government is prepared to do so.williamglenn said:
Why should Barnier care about UK public opinion, or to put it differently, why is UK public opinion more important than EU27 public opinion?Philip_Thompson said:
I think if we end up walking away then in the battle of public opinion the UK government has easily won this round over Barnier.williamglenn said:"There is no automatic entitlement to any benefits that the EU may have offered or granted in other contexts and circumstances to other, often very different, partners."
https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier/status/1263118957944483842
Quoting chapter and verse what they're looking for, why its been deemed acceptable before and to whom was a stroke of genius. Barnier stammering that the UK can't get the same without a reason is going to impress nobody neutral.
The UK holds the cards.
agree an FTA with the EU by December we will be paying an extra £1 per litre for imported olive oil, £1.26 to £1.60 per kilogramme for imported cheese, 14% on fresh vegetables, canned tomatoes etc. something ridiculous for yoghurt.
Not quite covid or climate change is it.0 -
If I didn't have better things to do, I'd drag out your post about where you mused about a post CV-19 Britain and how many might inevitably die.eadric said:
The German head of the EDC (the EU’s CDC) is in the Guardian today, reckoning that around 10% of western Europeans have been infected with Corona.rcs1000 said:
Human beings are resilient. Even if CV-19 had carried off the numbers you'd feared, we'd still be talking about other things in two years time.eadric said:Can we preserve this comment in a large ingot of tariff-free Lithuanian amber?
“In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used”
Drill down into the UK data on that basis. We’ve had 50-60,000 excess by most estimates so far. With around 10% infected.
Without lockdown we might have got, what, 50% infected? 60%?
Multiply 50,000 by 5 or 6 and you are at 250-300,000 excess deaths, with the potential for more in later waves. Which means the maligned Prof Ferguson’s figure of 500,000 UK deaths as a reasonable worst-case scenario was not so far off. After all.2 -
That's a given but in a couple of years time we will be able to compare our economic performance with Germany, France etc and if we are doing worse it will be down to either Brexit or poor handling of the pandemic and the government loses either way.CorrectHorseBattery said:We are headed for No Deal and the the Government is going to pretend Coronavirus is the cause of the economic downturn.
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I find it peculiar that we're going to go from no track and trace at all to "world beating" in 10 days time.2
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Not on here.rcs1000 said:
Human beings are resilient. Even if CV-19 had carried off the numbers you'd feared, we'd still be talking about other things in two years time.eadric said:Can we preserve this comment in a large ingot of tariff-free Lithuanian amber?
“In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used”
We'll still be talking about Brexit.1 -
Ave_it said:
No it's the nasty EU who are bullying us!CorrectHorseBattery said:We are headed for No Deal and the the Government is going to pretend Coronavirus is the cause of the economic downturn.
The one thing we can be sure the Brexiteers will be very good at is coming up with excuses for our economic decline!0 -
You and William Glenn should rent a flat together.FF43 said:
Why?RobD said:
The combined effect is likely smaller than if they were to occur separately.FF43 said:
I think you missed the fact we're not growing any more, because of CV19. This will be shrinkage over and above.eadric said:
Yes. Quite quite dim. And these are projections of lost potential growth, not immediate shrinkage, a la Covid. What a fucking stupid comment by FoxyFrancisUrquhart said:
They are projectations over many years. coronavirus will do more than that in a few months.Foxy said:
Nah, on government figures Hard Brexit is worse than Coronavirus.eadric said:Mexicanpete said:
So its a bit like having a foot removed, a mere trifle and not of any consequence whatsover in comparison to having the offending leg amputated instead?eadric said:
It really won’t. Covid-19 is a disaster. Hard Brexit is a modest prang in comparison. We might not even notice, amidst the horror of a second waveMikeSmithson said:
Except walking away will be a disaster whatever Boris fanboys sayPhilip_Thompson said:FPT
Because the EU don't want us to walk away and the government is prepared to do so.williamglenn said:
Why should Barnier care about UK public opinion, or to put it differently, why is UK public opinion more important than EU27 public opinion?Philip_Thompson said:
I think if we end up walking away then in the battle of public opinion the UK government has easily won this round over Barnier.williamglenn said:"There is no automatic entitlement to any benefits that the EU may have offered or granted in other contexts and circumstances to other, often very different, partners."
https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier/status/1263118957944483842
Quoting chapter and verse what they're looking for, why its been deemed acceptable before and to whom was a stroke of genius. Barnier stammering that the UK can't get the same without a reason is going to impress nobody neutral.
The UK holds the cards.
Hard Brexit is not a foot amputation, you spineless cuck. We know this because we now KNOW what a real disaster feels like: as we’re in one.
If you need an analogy Hard Brexit is tonsillitis, Corona is throat cancer.
FWIW I'm not massively wedded to these predictions, but if anything I think it's made worse, not better by CV19. The Brexit economic damage has always been to do with investment IMO. Brexit makes discretionary investment in the UK unattractive. If you have an operation in the UK already you will normally keep it going. The CV19 depression will see massive disinvestment, which will fall particularly heavily on the UK. When deciding which factory or branch to close, the UK operation will get the chop.0 -
They are ONS, not government figures, but I have not seen updated projections since the change of PM. Perhaps I have missed them, but I vaguely remember the Johnson government refusing to release updated ones.Wulfrun_Phil said:
Specifically, they're the figures produced by a government run by Theresa May and Phillip Hammond, who had a certain agenda they wanted to promote. Unfortunately Hammond was not willing to sanction the release of the full models that produced those projections, presumably from fear that the figures might become discredited when the assumptions underlying them were exposed as being questionable.Foxy said:
Nah, on government figures Hard Brexit is worse than Coronavirus.eadric said:Mexicanpete said:
So its a bit like having a foot removed, a mere trifle and not of any consequence whatsover in comparison to having the offending leg amputated instead?eadric said:
It really won’t. Covid-19 is a disaster. Hard Brexit is a modest prang in comparison. We might not even notice, amidst the horror of a second waveMikeSmithson said:
Except walking away will be a disaster whatever Boris fanboys sayPhilip_Thompson said:FPT
Because the EU don't want us to walk away and the government is prepared to do so.williamglenn said:
Why should Barnier care about UK public opinion, or to put it differently, why is UK public opinion more important than EU27 public opinion?Philip_Thompson said:
I think if we end up walking away then in the battle of public opinion the UK government has easily won this round over Barnier.williamglenn said:"There is no automatic entitlement to any benefits that the EU may have offered or granted in other contexts and circumstances to other, often very different, partners."
https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier/status/1263118957944483842
Quoting chapter and verse what they're looking for, why its been deemed acceptable before and to whom was a stroke of genius. Barnier stammering that the UK can't get the same without a reason is going to impress nobody neutral.
The UK holds the cards.
Hard Brexit is not a foot amputation, you spineless cuck. We know this because we now KNOW what a real disaster feels like: as we’re in one.
If you need an analogy Hard Brexit is tonsillitis, Corona is throat cancer.0 -
It's all the fault of Remoaners!OllyT said:Ave_it said:
No it's the nasty EU who are bullying us!CorrectHorseBattery said:We are headed for No Deal and the the Government is going to pretend Coronavirus is the cause of the economic downturn.
The one thing we can be sure the Brexiteers will be very good at is coming up with excuses for our economic decline!
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I miss Roger...he was my kindred spirit....eadric said:
I dunno. Hope he’s OK. He and I often crossed sabres but he always took it in very good humour, and He was excellent value with his Oscar Predictions. He knew a LOT about movies, tho less about economics.tyson said:
What happened to Roger?eadric said:
Anotherex-Tory has quite cheered me uptyson said:
I'd ignore Eadric...antotherexx....he is this site's Michael Moore polemicist...and anyone is fair game.......but, sadly, his posts are readable.....eadric said:
Trust me. After our economy shrinks by 10-20% in 6 months, along with economies all around the world, and we enter a recession so severe its like is not within the purview of living memory, the chances are we still remember it in about 18 months are “quite high”anotherex_tory said:
Well you may be the expert on creating stupid comments but that doesn't necessarily qualify you to detect them.eadric said:
Hahahahahahanotherex_tory said:
Actually, Brexit is like Polio an utterly pernicious multilateral infection which causes debilitating and permanent damage. It could be a limp, nerve damage or paralysis but damage will be done either way and its permanent. The other similarity to Brexit is that Polio is caused by swallowing faecal matter.eadric said:Mexicanpete said:
So its a bit like having a foot removed, a mere trifle and not of any consequence whatsover in comparison to having the offending leg amputated instead?eadric said:
It really won’t. Covid-19 is a disaster. Hard Brexit is a modest prang in comparison. We might not even notice, amidst the horror of a second waveMikeSmithson said:
Except walking away will be a disaster whatever Boris fanboys sayPhilip_Thompson said:FPT
Because the EU don't want us to walk away and the government is prepared to do so.williamglenn said:
Why should Barnier care about UK public opinion, or to put it differently, why is UK public opinion more important than EU27 public opinion?Philip_Thompson said:
I think if we end up walking away then in the battle of public opinion the UK government has easily won this round over Barnier.williamglenn said:"There is no automatic entitlement to any benefits that the EU may have offered or granted in other contexts and circumstances to other, often very different, partners."
https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier/status/1263118957944483842
Quoting chapter and verse what they're looking for, why its been deemed acceptable before and to whom was a stroke of genius. Barnier stammering that the UK can't get the same without a reason is going to impress nobody neutral.
The UK holds the cards.
Hard Brexit is not a foot amputation, you spineless cuck. We know this because we now KNOW what a real disaster feels like: as we’re in one.
If you need an analogy Hard Brexit is tonsillitis, Corona is throat cancer.
Covid 19 on the other hand is, well, Covid 19. A disease that kills very few, leaves most unaffected permanently and the outcome depends somewhat on luck but largely on preparation (general health). It seems to be treatable and there will be a vaccine.
In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used - the topic of conversation will still be the fall-out from Brexit and it will continue to be discussed as long as there is an EU for the UK to re- join, leave or remain in i.e. for the rest of my lifetime at least.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
“ In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used”
Congratulations on creating one of the stupidest comments in PB’s illustrious history of stupidity, in just your first hour on the site. Well played.
Even if we get a vaccine, as you so poignantly assume.
But be of good cheer. You have set a standard. It normally takes new commenters about 4-6 weeks to reveal themselves as goggle-eyed pinheads, you’ve done it in fifteen minutes
“In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used“
It’s worthy of Rogerdamus at his best. And Roger was good. I miss him.
Buenos Noches, I am off to watch Narcos Mexico, which is rather fine.
I miss the affluent old lefty.
I met him a few times...I think you'd have liked him...he was off piste....
I'm hopeless at sustaining friendships...I'm too lazy. And I like being by myself too much...which outside my wife, doesn't leave me with much space to be sociable....
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Yes, it will be the fault of everyone but themselves. Populism works like that.OllyT said:Ave_it said:
No it's the nasty EU who are bullying us!CorrectHorseBattery said:We are headed for No Deal and the the Government is going to pretend Coronavirus is the cause of the economic downturn.
The one thing we can be sure the Brexiteers will be very good at is coming up with excuses for our economic decline!0 -
Yes, where is Roger? I always rather liked his dry humour.tyson said:
I miss Roger...he was my kindred spirit....eadric said:
I dunno. Hope he’s OK. He and I often crossed sabres but he always took it in very good humour, and He was excellent value with his Oscar Predictions. He knew a LOT about movies, tho less about economics.tyson said:
What happened to Roger?eadric said:
Anotherex-Tory has quite cheered me uptyson said:
I'd ignore Eadric...antotherexx....he is this site's Michael Moore polemicist...and anyone is fair game.......but, sadly, his posts are readable.....eadric said:
Trust me. After our economy shrinks by 10-20% in 6 months, along with economies all around the world, and we enter a recession so severe its like is not within the purview of living memory, the chances are we still remember it in about 18 months are “quite high”anotherex_tory said:
Well you may be the expert on creating stupid comments but that doesn't necessarily qualify you to detect them.eadric said:
Hahahahahahanotherex_tory said:
Actually, Brexit is like Polio an utterly pernicious multilateral infection which causes debilitating and permanent damage. It could be a limp, nerve damage or paralysis but damage will be done either way and its permanent. The other similarity to Brexit is that Polio is caused by swallowing faecal matter.eadric said:Mexicanpete said:
So its a bit like having a foot removed, a mere trifle and not of any consequence whatsover in comparison to having the offending leg amputated instead?eadric said:
It really won’t. Covid-19 is a disaster. Hard Brexit is a modest prang in comparison. We might not even notice, amidst the horror of a second waveMikeSmithson said:
Except walking away will be a disaster whatever Boris fanboys sayPhilip_Thompson said:FPT
Because the EU don't want us to walk away and the government is prepared to do so.williamglenn said:
Why should Barnier care about UK public opinion, or to put it differently, why is UK public opinion more important than EU27 public opinion?Philip_Thompson said:
I think if we end up walking away then in the battle of public opinion the UK government has easily won this round over Barnier.williamglenn said:"There is no automatic entitlement to any benefits that the EU may have offered or granted in other contexts and circumstances to other, often very different, partners."
https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier/status/1263118957944483842
Quoting chapter and verse what they're looking for, why its been deemed acceptable before and to whom was a stroke of genius. Barnier stammering that the UK can't get the same without a reason is going to impress nobody neutral.
The UK holds the cards.
Hard Brexit is not a foot amputation, you spineless cuck. We know this because we now KNOW what a real disaster feels like: as we’re in one.
If you need an analogy Hard Brexit is tonsillitis, Corona is throat cancer.
Covid 19 on the other hand is, well, Covid 19. A disease that kills very few, leaves most unaffected permanently and the outcome depends somewhat on luck but largely on preparation (general health). It seems to be treatable and there will be a vaccine.
In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used - the topic of conversation will still be the fall-out from Brexit and it will continue to be discussed as long as there is an EU for the UK to re- join, leave or remain in i.e. for the rest of my lifetime at least.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
“ In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used”
Congratulations on creating one of the stupidest comments in PB’s illustrious history of stupidity, in just your first hour on the site. Well played.
Even if we get a vaccine, as you so poignantly assume.
But be of good cheer. You have set a standard. It normally takes new commenters about 4-6 weeks to reveal themselves as goggle-eyed pinheads, you’ve done it in fifteen minutes
“In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used“
It’s worthy of Rogerdamus at his best. And Roger was good. I miss him.
Buenos Noches, I am off to watch Narcos Mexico, which is rather fine.
I miss the affluent old lefty.
I met him a few times...I think you'd have liked him...he was off piste....
I'm hopeless at sustaining friendships...I'm too lazy. And I like being by myself too much...which outside my wife, doesn't leave me with much space to be sociable....0 -
Will we have a trade deal with the EU.Luckyguy1983 said:
No we are not.CorrectHorseBattery said:We are headed for No Deal and the the Government is going to pretend Coronavirus is the cause of the economic downturn.
'No Deal', as we were told daily at the time, is 'falling off a cliff', planes being grounded etc. As we were also told at the time, it is not the same as 'hard brexit', it is by orders of magnitude more serious.
So why have the same people now switched to saying we are heading for 'no deal', when 'hard brexit' covers the scenario admirably and was their 'scary' phrase in the first place?
It is simply flagrant duplicity - and then you winge that the proles won't just shut up and take your word for things? It's really not as cunning as you all seem to believe it is.
No.
Therefore No Deal is a perfectly suitable description.0 -
CHB I bet you voted Rebecca 😄CorrectHorseBattery said:
Will we have a trade deal with the EU.Luckyguy1983 said:
No we are not.CorrectHorseBattery said:We are headed for No Deal and the the Government is going to pretend Coronavirus is the cause of the economic downturn.
'No Deal', as we were told daily at the time, is 'falling off a cliff', planes being grounded etc. As we were also told at the time, it is not the same as 'hard brexit', it is by orders of magnitude more serious.
So why have the same people now switched to saying we are heading for 'no deal', when 'hard brexit' covers the scenario admirably and was their 'scary' phrase in the first place?
It is simply flagrant duplicity - and then you winge that the proles won't just shut up and take your word for things? It's really not as cunning as you all seem to believe it is.
No.
Therefore No Deal is a perfectly suitable description.1 -
Things that happened not that long ago that seems like another era and forgot about
a) Yanks killing Iranian top brass who then shoot down an airliner - happened this year !
b) Johnson appeared in court charged with lying (or something like that ) in a public office.
c) England won the cricket world cup in the most dramatic fashion
I doubt we will be talking about covid 19 in 2022 (maybe an obscure reference to win a argument about the NHS)0 -
Better hope they get the contract for re-engining the B52s.rottenborough said:Rolls Royce boss sees decline "in medium term" in commercial aerospace travel of 1/3.
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Still no. Not that i think no deal brexit is a good idea.Foxy said:
Sure, one is in the present, the other is a forecast (an ONS one). Forecasts can be wrong, but the Confidence Intervals are both sides. It could be an underestimate as much as an overestimate.FrancisUrquhart said:
No, the graphic you showed was difference of long term forecast gdp GROWTH compared to status quo. CV is crashing actual GDP now.Foxy said:
So you agree that the impact of Hard Brexit is a little more severe, just more drawn out?FrancisUrquhart said:
They are projectations over many years. coronavirus will do more than that in a few months.Foxy said:
Nah, on government figures Hard Brexit is worse than Coronavirus.eadric said:Mexicanpete said:
So its a bit like having a foot removed, a mere trifle and not of any consequence whatsover in comparison to having the offending leg amputated instead?eadric said:
It really won’t. Covid-19 is a disaster. Hard Brexit is a modest prang in comparison. We might not even notice, amidst the horror of a second waveMikeSmithson said:
Except walking away will be a disaster whatever Boris fanboys sayPhilip_Thompson said:FPT
Because the EU don't want us to walk away and the government is prepared to do so.williamglenn said:
Why should Barnier care about UK public opinion, or to put it differently, why is UK public opinion more important than EU27 public opinion?Philip_Thompson said:
I think if we end up walking away then in the battle of public opinion the UK government has easily won this round over Barnier.williamglenn said:"There is no automatic entitlement to any benefits that the EU may have offered or granted in other contexts and circumstances to other, often very different, partners."
https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier/status/1263118957944483842
Quoting chapter and verse what they're looking for, why its been deemed acceptable before and to whom was a stroke of genius. Barnier stammering that the UK can't get the same without a reason is going to impress nobody neutral.
The UK holds the cards.
Hard Brexit is not a foot amputation, you spineless cuck. We know this because we now KNOW what a real disaster feels like: as we’re in one.
If you need an analogy Hard Brexit is tonsillitis, Corona is throat cancer.
One basically predicts missed GDP growth, but given historic trends, still growth. That doesn't mean economic ruin, means more likely money always tight and next generation not better off.
The other treatens a massive economic depression, millions more will be out of work in a few months, and could easily rapidly spiral down the plug hole. Such an immediate unpredictable economic shock, with what looks like long term restrictions on normal life is incredibly difficult to manage.0 -
I dunno...we met with Nick that time, and then I saw Roger in Manchester.....Foxy said:
Yes, where is Roger? I always rather liked his dry humour.tyson said:
I miss Roger...he was my kindred spirit....eadric said:
I dunno. Hope he’s OK. He and I often crossed sabres but he always took it in very good humour, and He was excellent value with his Oscar Predictions. He knew a LOT about movies, tho less about economics.tyson said:
What happened to Roger?eadric said:
Anotherex-Tory has quite cheered me uptyson said:
I'd ignore Eadric...antotherexx....he is this site's Michael Moore polemicist...and anyone is fair game.......but, sadly, his posts are readable.....eadric said:
Trust me. After our economy shrinks by 10-20% in 6 months, along with economies all around the world, and we enter a recession so severe its like is not within the purview of living memory, the chances are we still remember it in about 18 months are “quite high”anotherex_tory said:
Well you may be the expert on creating stupid comments but that doesn't necessarily qualify you to detect them.eadric said:
Hahahahahahanotherex_tory said:
Actually, Brexit is like Polio an utterly pernicious multilateral infection which causes debilitating and permanent damage. It could be a limp, nerve damage or paralysis but damage will be done either way and its permanent. The other similarity to Brexit is that Polio is caused by swallowing faecal matter.eadric said:Mexicanpete said:
So its a bit like having a foot removed, a mere trifle and not of any consequence whatsover in comparison to having the offending leg amputated instead?eadric said:
It really won’t. Covid-19 is a disaster. Hard Brexit is a modest prang in comparison. We might not even notice, amidst the horror of a second waveMikeSmithson said:
Except walking away will be a disaster whatever Boris fanboys sayPhilip_Thompson said:FPT
Because the EU don't want us to walk away and the government is prepared to do so.williamglenn said:
Why should Barnier care about UK public opinion, or to put it differently, why is UK public opinion more important than EU27 public opinion?Philip_Thompson said:
I think if we end up walking away then in the battle of public opinion the UK government has easily won this round over Barnier.williamglenn said:"There is no automatic entitlement to any benefits that the EU may have offered or granted in other contexts and circumstances to other, often very different, partners."
https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier/status/1263118957944483842
Quoting chapter and verse what they're looking for, why its been deemed acceptable before and to whom was a stroke of genius. Barnier stammering that the UK can't get the same without a reason is going to impress nobody neutral.
The UK holds the cards.
Hard Brexit is not a foot amputation, you spineless cuck. We know this because we now KNOW what a real disaster feels like: as we’re in one.
If you need an analogy Hard Brexit is tonsillitis, Corona is throat cancer.
Covid 19 on the other hand is, well, Covid 19. A disease that kills very few, leaves most unaffected permanently and the outcome depends somewhat on luck but largely on preparation (general health). It seems to be treatable and there will be a vaccine.
In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used - the topic of conversation will still be the fall-out from Brexit and it will continue to be discussed as long as there is an EU for the UK to re- join, leave or remain in i.e. for the rest of my lifetime at least.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
“ In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used”
Congratulations on creating one of the stupidest comments in PB’s illustrious history of stupidity, in just your first hour on the site. Well played.
Even if we get a vaccine, as you so poignantly assume.
But be of good cheer. You have set a standard. It normally takes new commenters about 4-6 weeks to reveal themselves as goggle-eyed pinheads, you’ve done it in fifteen minutes
“In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used“
It’s worthy of Rogerdamus at his best. And Roger was good. I miss him.
Buenos Noches, I am off to watch Narcos Mexico, which is rather fine.
I miss the affluent old lefty.
I met him a few times...I think you'd have liked him...he was off piste....
I'm hopeless at sustaining friendships...I'm too lazy. And I like being by myself too much...which outside my wife, doesn't leave me with much space to be sociable....
BTW...I'm pleased to have escaped Norwich....Mount Pleasant is as good as it gets....Oxford feels like home....
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Two things give me comfort in these dark times. Firstly, I know that if I try to rob a bank, whether or not I succeed, my food and rent will be sorted for the next 10 years or so. Secondly, the recursive loop of PB’s Brexit discussions is proof positive that some things on this mortal realm really are eternal.Casino_Royale said:
Not on here.rcs1000 said:
Human beings are resilient. Even if CV-19 had carried off the numbers you'd feared, we'd still be talking about other things in two years time.eadric said:Can we preserve this comment in a large ingot of tariff-free Lithuanian amber?
“In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used”
We'll still be talking about Brexit.1 -
I hope he's OKtyson said:
I dunno...we met with Nick that time, and then I saw Roger in Manchester.....Foxy said:
Yes, where is Roger? I always rather liked his dry humour.tyson said:
I miss Roger...he was my kindred spirit....eadric said:
I dunno. Hope he’s OK. He and I often crossed sabres but he always took it in very good humour, and He was excellent value with his Oscar Predictions. He knew a LOT about movies, tho less about economics.tyson said:
What happened to Roger?eadric said:
Anotherex-Tory has quite cheered me uptyson said:
I'd ignore Eadric...antotherexx....he is this site's Michael Moore polemicist...and anyone is fair game.......but, sadly, his posts are readable.....eadric said:
Trust me. After our economy shrinks by 10-20% in 6 months, along with economies all around the world, and we enter a recession so severe its like is not within the purview of living memory, the chances are we still remember it in about 18 months are “quite high”anotherex_tory said:
Well you may be the expert on creating stupid comments but that doesn't necessarily qualify you to detect them.eadric said:
Hahahahahahanotherex_tory said:
Actually, Brexit is like Polio an utterly pernicious multilateral infection which causes debilitating and permanent damage. It could be a limp, nerve damage or paralysis but damage will be done either way and its permanent. The other similarity to Brexit is that Polio is caused by swallowing faecal matter.eadric said:Mexicanpete said:
So its a bit like having a foot removed, a mere trifle and not of any consequence whatsover in comparison to having the offending leg amputated instead?eadric said:
It really won’t. Covid-19 is a disaster. Hard Brexit is a modest prang in comparison. We might not even notice, amidst the horror of a second waveMikeSmithson said:
Except walking away will be a disaster whatever Boris fanboys sayPhilip_Thompson said:FPT
Because the EU don't want us to walk away and the government is prepared to do so.williamglenn said:
Why should Barnier care about UK public opinion, or to put it differently, why is UK public opinion more important than EU27 public opinion?Philip_Thompson said:
I think if we end up walking away then in the battle of public opinion the UK government has easily won this round over Barnier.williamglenn said:"There is no automatic entitlement to any benefits that the EU may have offered or granted in other contexts and circumstances to other, often very different, partners."
https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier/status/1263118957944483842
Quoting chapter and verse what they're looking for, why its been deemed acceptable before and to whom was a stroke of genius. Barnier stammering that the UK can't get the same without a reason is going to impress nobody neutral.
The UK holds the cards.
Hard Brexit is not a foot amputation, you spineless cuck. We know this because we now KNOW what a real disaster feels like: as we’re in one.
If you need an analogy Hard Brexit is tonsillitis, Corona is throat cancer.
Covid 19 on the other hand is, well, Covid 19. A disease that kills very few, leaves most unaffected permanently and the outcome depends somewhat on luck but largely on preparation (general health). It seems to be treatable and there will be a vaccine.
In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used - the topic of conversation will still be the fall-out from Brexit and it will continue to be discussed as long as there is an EU for the UK to re- join, leave or remain in i.e. for the rest of my lifetime at least.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
“ In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used”
Congratulations on creating one of the stupidest comments in PB’s illustrious history of stupidity, in just your first hour on the site. Well played.
Even if we get a vaccine, as you so poignantly assume.
But be of good cheer. You have set a standard. It normally takes new commenters about 4-6 weeks to reveal themselves as goggle-eyed pinheads, you’ve done it in fifteen minutes
“In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used“
It’s worthy of Rogerdamus at his best. And Roger was good. I miss him.
Buenos Noches, I am off to watch Narcos Mexico, which is rather fine.
I miss the affluent old lefty.
I met him a few times...I think you'd have liked him...he was off piste....
I'm hopeless at sustaining friendships...I'm too lazy. And I like being by myself too much...which outside my wife, doesn't leave me with much space to be sociable....
BTW...I'm pleased to have escaped Norwich....Mount Pleasant is as good as it gets....Oxford feels like home....0 -
Or AV.Casino_Royale said:
Not on here.rcs1000 said:
Human beings are resilient. Even if CV-19 had carried off the numbers you'd feared, we'd still be talking about other things in two years time.eadric said:Can we preserve this comment in a large ingot of tariff-free Lithuanian amber?
“In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used”
We'll still be talking about Brexit.0 -
Rob a bank ?- how very 1960s. You have to phish it nowadays.DougSeal said:
Two things give me comfort in these dark times. Firstly, I know that if I try to rob a bank, whether or not I succeed, my food and rent will be sorted for the next 10 years or so. Secondly, the recursive loop of PB’s Brexit discussions is proof positive that some things on this mortal realm really are eternal.Casino_Royale said:
Not on here.rcs1000 said:
Human beings are resilient. Even if CV-19 had carried off the numbers you'd feared, we'd still be talking about other things in two years time.eadric said:Can we preserve this comment in a large ingot of tariff-free Lithuanian amber?
“In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used”
We'll still be talking about Brexit.0 -
We can but dream.Anabobazina said:
Or AV.Casino_Royale said:
Not on here.rcs1000 said:
Human beings are resilient. Even if CV-19 had carried off the numbers you'd feared, we'd still be talking about other things in two years time.eadric said:Can we preserve this comment in a large ingot of tariff-free Lithuanian amber?
“In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used”
We'll still be talking about Brexit.1 -
I’m old school like thatstate_go_away said:
Rob a bank ?- how very 1960s. You have to phish it nowadays.DougSeal said:
Two things give me comfort in these dark times. Firstly, I know that if I try to rob a bank, whether or not I succeed, my food and rent will be sorted for the next 10 years or so. Secondly, the recursive loop of PB’s Brexit discussions is proof positive that some things on this mortal realm really are eternal.Casino_Royale said:
Not on here.rcs1000 said:
Human beings are resilient. Even if CV-19 had carried off the numbers you'd feared, we'd still be talking about other things in two years time.eadric said:Can we preserve this comment in a large ingot of tariff-free Lithuanian amber?
“In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used”
We'll still be talking about Brexit.0 -
Track and trace sounds like a football tactic .Jonathan said:
From ‘it’s inappropriate to make international comparisons’ to ‘world beating’ in two weeks.Pulpstar said:I find it peculiar that we're going to go from no track and trace at all to "world beating" in 10 days time.
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So you run three factories in Europe, one in the UK. Brexit happens but your order books are full. The situation is benign. So Brexit is a hassle. You have product standards issues exporting to the rest of Europe, customs forms to fill in and possibly tariffs to pay as well. You're happy with your UK operation so you have no intention of moving production elsewhere. You might not set up a new operation in the UK, but you stick with the ones you've got and work though the red tape.Casino_Royale said:
You and William Glenn should rent a flat together.FF43 said:
Why?RobD said:
The combined effect is likely smaller than if they were to occur separately.FF43 said:
I think you missed the fact we're not growing any more, because of CV19. This will be shrinkage over and above.eadric said:
Yes. Quite quite dim. And these are projections of lost potential growth, not immediate shrinkage, a la Covid. What a fucking stupid comment by FoxyFrancisUrquhart said:
They are projectations over many years. coronavirus will do more than that in a few months.Foxy said:
Nah, on government figures Hard Brexit is worse than Coronavirus.eadric said:Mexicanpete said:
So its a bit like having a foot removed, a mere trifle and not of any consequence whatsover in comparison to having the offending leg amputated instead?eadric said:
It really won’t. Covid-19 is a disaster. Hard Brexit is a modest prang in comparison. We might not even notice, amidst the horror of a second waveMikeSmithson said:
Except walking away will be a disaster whatever Boris fanboys sayPhilip_Thompson said:FPT
Because the EU don't want us to walk away and the government is prepared to do so.williamglenn said:
Why should Barnier care about UK public opinion, or to put it differently, why is UK public opinion more important than EU27 public opinion?Philip_Thompson said:
I think if we end up walking away then in the battle of public opinion the UK government has easily won this round over Barnier.williamglenn said:"There is no automatic entitlement to any benefits that the EU may have offered or granted in other contexts and circumstances to other, often very different, partners."
https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier/status/1263118957944483842
Quoting chapter and verse what they're looking for, why its been deemed acceptable before and to whom was a stroke of genius. Barnier stammering that the UK can't get the same without a reason is going to impress nobody neutral.
The UK holds the cards.
Hard Brexit is not a foot amputation, you spineless cuck. We know this because we now KNOW what a real disaster feels like: as we’re in one.
If you need an analogy Hard Brexit is tonsillitis, Corona is throat cancer.
FWIW I'm not massively wedded to these predictions, but if anything I think it's made worse, not better by CV19. The Brexit economic damage has always been to do with investment IMO. Brexit makes discretionary investment in the UK unattractive. If you have an operation in the UK already you will normally keep it going. The CV19 depression will see massive disinvestment, which will fall particularly heavily on the UK. When deciding which factory or branch to close, the UK operation will get the chop.
Covid-19 hits. You need to make drastic cuts. Then you think about all those new barriers to trade from the UK factory that don't apply to your other operations. Shuttering the UK operation is a no brainer.0 -
I predict that air travel will be back to normal within 2 to 3 years, if not sooner.rottenborough said:Rolls Royce boss sees decline "in medium term" in commercial aerospace travel of 1/3.
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Robbing a bank will fall into that quaint category of serious offences that nobody does these days because they are so passe like Piracy on the High Seas , Witchcraft and Beating a Carpet Rug in a Main ThouroughfareDougSeal said:
I’m old school like thatstate_go_away said:
Rob a bank ?- how very 1960s. You have to phish it nowadays.DougSeal said:
Two things give me comfort in these dark times. Firstly, I know that if I try to rob a bank, whether or not I succeed, my food and rent will be sorted for the next 10 years or so. Secondly, the recursive loop of PB’s Brexit discussions is proof positive that some things on this mortal realm really are eternal.Casino_Royale said:
Not on here.rcs1000 said:
Human beings are resilient. Even if CV-19 had carried off the numbers you'd feared, we'd still be talking about other things in two years time.eadric said:Can we preserve this comment in a large ingot of tariff-free Lithuanian amber?
“In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used”
We'll still be talking about Brexit.0 -
Looks like our world-beating track n trace system will be based on post-it notes and lengths of twine.
'We will spread it on the beaches.
We will spread it in the public parks.
We shall never surrender (our right to act like dickheads).'
Night all.0 -
Openly stating the view that Brexit is worse for our economy than Coronavirus has got to be peak Remoaner on this site.0
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I've sent Roger a text.....if I hear anything I'll post...Pulpstar said:
I hope he's OKtyson said:
I dunno...we met with Nick that time, and then I saw Roger in Manchester.....Foxy said:
Yes, where is Roger? I always rather liked his dry humour.tyson said:
I miss Roger...he was my kindred spirit....eadric said:
I dunno. Hope he’s OK. He and I often crossed sabres but he always took it in very good humour, and He was excellent value with his Oscar Predictions. He knew a LOT about movies, tho less about economics.tyson said:
What happened to Roger?eadric said:
Anotherex-Tory has quite cheered me uptyson said:
I'd ignore Eadric...antotherexx....he is this site's Michael Moore polemicist...and anyone is fair game.......but, sadly, his posts are readable.....eadric said:
Trust me. After our economy shrinks by 10-20% in 6 months, along with economies all around the world, and we enter a recession so severe its like is not within the purview of living memory, the chances are we still remember it in about 18 months are “quite high”anotherex_tory said:
Well you may be the expert on creating stupid comments but that doesn't necessarily qualify you to detect them.eadric said:
Hahahahahahanotherex_tory said:
Actually, Brexit is like Polio an utterly pernicious multilateral infection which causes debilitating and permanent damage. It could be a limp, nerve damage or paralysis but damage will be done either way and its permanent. The other similarity to Brexit is that Polio is caused by swallowing faecal matter.eadric said:Mexicanpete said:
So its a bit like having a foot removed, a mere trifle and not of any consequence whatsover in comparison to having the offending leg amputated instead?eadric said:
It really won’t. Covid-19 is a disaster. Hard Brexit is a modest prang in comparison. We might not even notice, amidst the horror of a second waveMikeSmithson said:
Except walking away will be a disaster whatever Boris fanboys sayPhilip_Thompson said:FPT
Because the EU don't want us to walk away and the government is prepared to do so.williamglenn said:
Why should Barnier care about UK public opinion, or to put it differently, why is UK public opinion more important than EU27 public opinion?Philip_Thompson said:
I think if we end up walking away then in the battle of public opinion the UK government has easily won this round over Barnier.williamglenn said:"There is no automatic entitlement to any benefits that the EU may have offered or granted in other contexts and circumstances to other, often very different, partners."
https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier/status/1263118957944483842
Quoting chapter and verse what they're looking for, why its been deemed acceptable before and to whom was a stroke of genius. Barnier stammering that the UK can't get the same without a reason is going to impress nobody neutral.
The UK holds the cards.
Hard Brexit is not a foot amputation, you spineless cuck. We know this because we now KNOW what a real disaster feels like: as we’re in one.
If you need an analogy Hard Brexit is tonsillitis, Corona is throat cancer.
Covid 19 on the other hand is, well, Covid 19. A disease that kills very few, leaves most unaffected permanently and the outcome depends somewhat on luck but largely on preparation (general health). It seems to be treatable and there will be a vaccine.
In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used - the topic of conversation will still be the fall-out from Brexit and it will continue to be discussed as long as there is an EU for the UK to re- join, leave or remain in i.e. for the rest of my lifetime at least.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
“ In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used”
Congratulations on creating one of the stupidest comments in PB’s illustrious history of stupidity, in just your first hour on the site. Well played.
Even if we get a vaccine, as you so poignantly assume.
But be of good cheer. You have set a standard. It normally takes new commenters about 4-6 weeks to reveal themselves as goggle-eyed pinheads, you’ve done it in fifteen minutes
“In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used“
It’s worthy of Rogerdamus at his best. And Roger was good. I miss him.
Buenos Noches, I am off to watch Narcos Mexico, which is rather fine.
I miss the affluent old lefty.
I met him a few times...I think you'd have liked him...he was off piste....
I'm hopeless at sustaining friendships...I'm too lazy. And I like being by myself too much...which outside my wife, doesn't leave me with much space to be sociable....
BTW...I'm pleased to have escaped Norwich....Mount Pleasant is as good as it gets....Oxford feels like home....
I think we've all aged since that night in Beeston in 2015 Pulps....it seems another life....
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Now if we had gone with google / apple api, we would be having the app in a couple of days time...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/techcrunch.com/2020/05/20/apple-and-google-launch-exposure-notification-api-enabling-public-health-authorities-to-release-apps/amp/0 -
If they can they do.Theuniondivvie said:
"It's like pure mucous. It's just creepy. No other species drinks milk from any other species. It's completely mental."eadric said:Omnium said:
Are grapes soil and sunshine that have gone off?Luckyguy1983 said:
Wine is grapes that have gone off.Beibheirli_C said:
Cheese is milk that went off. No loss.FF43 said:
That's parmesan etc. Some of the others are cheaper.ydoethur said:
£1.60 per kilogramme for imported cheese?FF43 said:
The big Brexit news yesterday was the tariff schedule. If the UK doesn't agree an FTA with the EU by December we will be paying an extra £1 per litre for imported olive oil, £1.26 to £1.60 per kilogramme for imported cheese, 14% on fresh vegetables, canned tomatoes etc. something ridiculous for yoghurt.eadric said:
It really won’t. Covid-19 is a disaster. Hard Brexit is a modest prang in comparison. We might not even notice, amidst the horror of a second waveMikeSmithson said:
Except walking away will be a disaster whatever Boris fanboys sayPhilip_Thompson said:FPT
Because the EU don't want us to walk away and the government is prepared to do so.williamglenn said:
Why should Barnier care about UK public opinion, or to put it differently, why is UK public opinion more important than EU27 public opinion?Philip_Thompson said:
I think if we end up walking away then in the battle of public opinion the UK government has easily won this round over Barnier.williamglenn said:"There is no automatic entitlement to any benefits that the EU may have offered or granted in other contexts and circumstances to other, often very different, partners."
https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier/status/1263118957944483842
Quoting chapter and verse what they're looking for, why its been deemed acceptable before and to whom was a stroke of genius. Barnier stammering that the UK can't get the same without a reason is going to impress nobody neutral.
The UK holds the cards.
That. Is. A. Disgrace.
Should add if this goes ahead there will be humongous smuggling from NI to GB. Possibly also across the Channel. Not too sure about those Customs checks being in place.
“Cheese is the corpse of milk” - James Joyce
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I love it.....Nigelb said:
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Exactly! No one will be expecting it.state_go_away said:
Robbing a bank will fall into that quaint category of serious offences that nobody does these days because they are so passe like Piracy on the High Seas , Witchcraft and Beating a Carpet Rug in a Main ThouroughfareDougSeal said:
I’m old school like thatstate_go_away said:
Rob a bank ?- how very 1960s. You have to phish it nowadays.DougSeal said:
Two things give me comfort in these dark times. Firstly, I know that if I try to rob a bank, whether or not I succeed, my food and rent will be sorted for the next 10 years or so. Secondly, the recursive loop of PB’s Brexit discussions is proof positive that some things on this mortal realm really are eternal.Casino_Royale said:
Not on here.rcs1000 said:
Human beings are resilient. Even if CV-19 had carried off the numbers you'd feared, we'd still be talking about other things in two years time.eadric said:Can we preserve this comment in a large ingot of tariff-free Lithuanian amber?
“In 2022 we won't be talking about Covid 19 other than which vaccine was used”
We'll still be talking about Brexit.3
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