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He has raised his game, just not by enough.Beibheirli_C said:
Did you watch a different PMQs?CorrectHorseBattery said:Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
Speaker telling off Hancock was bloody scary.0 -
We're still waiting for that magic 38-40 moment...CorrectHorseBattery said:
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftieBeibheirli_C said:
Did you watch a different PMQs?CorrectHorseBattery said:Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...0 -
If it were my neighbour a mildly interesting point would be is the outfit sized for a woman or a man?Floater said:Conundrum of the day
We had 2 parcels delivered - we were expecting 2 parcels
Wife opens them - it becomes clear that actually one of those isn't for us.
Checks label - its for next door - but the guy who delivered it did not say that, he just said "parcel for you"
Packaging now ripped so its clear we opened it
contents are one "geeky schoolgirl" outfit....................
A bit early for Halloween and on a hunch guessing no fancy dress parties incoming........
How to hand it over in least embarrassing way for both parties ..........0 -
Overpaid prostitutes was one description I was told.Alanbrooke said:
Lawyers are simply overpaid actors.TheScreamingEagles said:God, at PMQS Boris put in the worst performance since Crassus at Carrhae.
Never underestimate a lawyer.0 -
Starmer is probably only going down this line to puncture Boris' popularity with the NHS. Would it be such a bad move for Boris to abolish the fee for migrants who are NHS workers and pay for it by increasing it for everyone else?DavidL said:
How many countries do you think you can turn up in as a non resident and get free medical care? Have you never bought travel insurance? This seems to me a much more realistic and fair way of sharing the cost of treatment of migrants than issuing big bills after they have had that broken arm set.OnlyLivingBoy said:
Don't they already pay taxes - which last time I looked is how we fund the NHS. People of working age barely use the NHS compared to the retired, anyway, and so from an actuarially fair POV they're probably overpaying already. This whole thing is a non-issue dreamt up by the Tories so that (a) they can persuade gullible voters to believe the NHS is falling apart because of forinners and not because they are underfunding it, and (b) they can establish the idea of some people having to pay for NHS services as a bridgehead for further erosion of the principle that it is free at the point of use.DavidL said:
To be blunt the answer to this is yes. If migrant workers coming to this country are to have free access to the NHS, which they should have, they need to pay the equivalent of an insurance premium up front. Why on earth shouldn't they?Scott_xP said:0 -
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed leftiesCorrectHorseBattery said:
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftieBeibheirli_C said:
Did you watch a different PMQs?CorrectHorseBattery said:Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
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I'm sure Labour will poll 40% sometime in the next five years.BluestBlue said:
We're still waiting for that magic 38-40 moment...CorrectHorseBattery said:
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftieBeibheirli_C said:
Did you watch a different PMQs?CorrectHorseBattery said:Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...0 -
Isn't the NHS paid for out of general government funds?CorrectHorseBattery said:1 -
Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez has asked parliament to extend the country's state of emergency for another two weeks, drawing fierce criticism from opposition parties.0
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Day out with my brother and a friend to OakwellTheScreamingEagles said:
What the chuff were you doing in Barnsley?Pulpstar said:The last McDonalds I ate was 30th March 2019 in Barnsley
That place is best avoided.
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I hope you told them that you always gave your johns great value for money.TheScreamingEagles said:
Overpaid prostitutes was one description I was told.Alanbrooke said:
Lawyers are simply overpaid actors.TheScreamingEagles said:God, at PMQS Boris put in the worst performance since Crassus at Carrhae.
Never underestimate a lawyer.0 -
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.Philip_Thompson said:
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed leftiesCorrectHorseBattery said:
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftieBeibheirli_C said:
Did you watch a different PMQs?CorrectHorseBattery said:Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...0 -
F##k me, Spotify paid $100 million for the exclusive rights to Joe Rogan Podcast. That will buy you some McDonald's unhappy meals!!!
https://www.wsj.com/articles/spotify-strikes-exclusive-podcast-deal-with-joe-rogan-115899138140 -
Most countries don't provide free decent quality healthcare to their own citizens either. And I don't pay income tax when I go somewhere on holiday. If I live in the UK for years on end and pay income tax, I think I should get the same basic public services as other people, such as schools and healthcare, as everyone else. It would be different if healthcare were funded on an insurance or contributory basis for locals too.DavidL said:
How many countries do you think you can turn up in as a non resident and get free medical care? Have you never bought travel insurance? This seems to me a much more realistic and fair way of sharing the cost of treatment of migrants than issuing big bills after they have had that broken arm set.OnlyLivingBoy said:
Don't they already pay taxes - which last time I looked is how we fund the NHS. People of working age barely use the NHS compared to the retired, anyway, and so from an actuarially fair POV they're probably overpaying already. This whole thing is a non-issue dreamt up by the Tories so that (a) they can persuade gullible voters to believe the NHS is falling apart because of forinners and not because they are underfunding it, and (b) they can establish the idea of some people having to pay for NHS services as a bridgehead for further erosion of the principle that it is free at the point of use.DavidL said:
To be blunt the answer to this is yes. If migrant workers coming to this country are to have free access to the NHS, which they should have, they need to pay the equivalent of an insurance premium up front. Why on earth shouldn't they?Scott_xP said:1 -
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Do you really not see the difference between a UK citizen and a migrant worker in terms of eligibility? I find that astonishing.Scott_xP said:
We pay for it out of general taxation, which immigrants pay.DavidL said:In America they charge you for the medical help you receive. We don't.
Of course if a company wants migrant workers to come it may have to pay this NHS surcharge themselves. Or train some of the indigenous population. In some circumstances we may want to waive it because it is very much in our interests that the come. Doctors coming to work in the NHS may be such an example. But they simply don't have the same rights as the rest of us unless we choose to give them to them in our own interests.2 -
You're just as valued as everyone else and thanks for your contribution despite the predictable vitriol you have received here.OnlyLivingBoy said:
Most countries don't provide free decent quality healthcare to their own citizens either. And I don't pay income tax when I go somewhere on holiday. If I live in the UK for years on end and pay income tax, I think I should get the same basic public services as other people, such as schools and healthcare, as everyone else. It would be different if healthcare were funded on an insurance or contributory basis for locals too.DavidL said:
How many countries do you think you can turn up in as a non resident and get free medical care? Have you never bought travel insurance? This seems to me a much more realistic and fair way of sharing the cost of treatment of migrants than issuing big bills after they have had that broken arm set.OnlyLivingBoy said:
Don't they already pay taxes - which last time I looked is how we fund the NHS. People of working age barely use the NHS compared to the retired, anyway, and so from an actuarially fair POV they're probably overpaying already. This whole thing is a non-issue dreamt up by the Tories so that (a) they can persuade gullible voters to believe the NHS is falling apart because of forinners and not because they are underfunding it, and (b) they can establish the idea of some people having to pay for NHS services as a bridgehead for further erosion of the principle that it is free at the point of use.DavidL said:
To be blunt the answer to this is yes. If migrant workers coming to this country are to have free access to the NHS, which they should have, they need to pay the equivalent of an insurance premium up front. Why on earth shouldn't they?Scott_xP said:0 -
If they were prostitutes, they'd turn up late, read their IPhones in flagrante delicto, and charge you and another punter for the same time.TheScreamingEagles said:
Overpaid prostitutes was one description I was told.Alanbrooke said:
Lawyers are simply overpaid actors.TheScreamingEagles said:God, at PMQS Boris put in the worst performance since Crassus at Carrhae.
Never underestimate a lawyer.1 -
I dont get why the FBPE bots on twitter are so offended about journalists saying it was a score draw at PMQs or Boris got a marginal win. No one needs to care too much about PMQs - it has a minor effect on anything. It's a ridiculous look to praise a journalist last week when he's bigging up Starmer and then claim he's biased this week because he didn't fawn over Starmer.
The angry centrist cult will do more damage to Labour's chances of being an electable proposition than their leader ever will.1 -
This isn't about people going on holiday somewhere.OnlyLivingBoy said:
Most countries don't provide free decent quality healthcare to their own citizens either. And I don't pay income tax when I go somewhere on holiday. If I live in the UK for years on end and pay income tax, I think I should get the same basic public services as other people, such as schools and healthcare, as everyone else. It would be different if healthcare were funded on an insurance or contributory basis for locals too.DavidL said:
How many countries do you think you can turn up in as a non resident and get free medical care? Have you never bought travel insurance? This seems to me a much more realistic and fair way of sharing the cost of treatment of migrants than issuing big bills after they have had that broken arm set.OnlyLivingBoy said:
Don't they already pay taxes - which last time I looked is how we fund the NHS. People of working age barely use the NHS compared to the retired, anyway, and so from an actuarially fair POV they're probably overpaying already. This whole thing is a non-issue dreamt up by the Tories so that (a) they can persuade gullible voters to believe the NHS is falling apart because of forinners and not because they are underfunding it, and (b) they can establish the idea of some people having to pay for NHS services as a bridgehead for further erosion of the principle that it is free at the point of use.DavidL said:
To be blunt the answer to this is yes. If migrant workers coming to this country are to have free access to the NHS, which they should have, they need to pay the equivalent of an insurance premium up front. Why on earth shouldn't they?Scott_xP said:0 -
Don't. You think they'll complain?Floater said:Conundrum of the day
We had 2 parcels delivered - we were expecting 2 parcels
Wife opens them - it becomes clear that actually one of those isn't for us.
Checks label - its for next door - but the guy who delivered it did not say that, he just said "parcel for you"
Packaging now ripped so its clear we opened it
contents are one "geeky schoolgirl" outfit....................
A bit early for Halloween and on a hunch guessing no fancy dress parties incoming........
How to hand it over in least embarrassing way for both parties ..........0 -
Mr. L, the last couple of times I had McDonalds, years ago, was late night after hospital (nothing bad). Glad to find somewhere open, but it was disappointing to discover they'd let some fries into my bag of salt.0
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Maybe with a soundtrack of Schools out for Summer?Floater said:Conundrum of the day
We had 2 parcels delivered - we were expecting 2 parcels
Wife opens them - it becomes clear that actually one of those isn't for us.
Checks label - its for next door - but the guy who delivered it did not say that, he just said "parcel for you"
Packaging now ripped so its clear we opened it
contents are one "geeky schoolgirl" outfit....................
A bit early for Halloween and on a hunch guessing no fancy dress parties incoming........
How to hand it over in least embarrassing way for both parties ..........0 -
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.CorrectHorseBattery said:
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.Philip_Thompson said:
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed leftiesCorrectHorseBattery said:
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftieBeibheirli_C said:
Did you watch a different PMQs?CorrectHorseBattery said:Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.0 -
Any more of that and pb Tories will be calling for the return of John Bercow.IshmaelZ said:
He has raised his game, just not by enough.Beibheirli_C said:
Did you watch a different PMQs?CorrectHorseBattery said:Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
Speaker telling off Hancock was bloody scary.1 -
CHB it's so brave of you!CorrectHorseBattery said:
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.Philip_Thompson said:
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed leftiesCorrectHorseBattery said:
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftieBeibheirli_C said:
Did you watch a different PMQs?CorrectHorseBattery said:Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
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Mr. Urquhart, blimey.
I know a lot of people like it but those are huge numbers. Good for him.0 -
My boss told me always to refer to our customers as customers, not clients.TheScreamingEagles said:Overpaid prostitutes was one description I was told.
Only lawyers and hookers have clients...0 -
A somewhat strange comment, I've not seen any vitriol in the thread today?CorrectHorseBattery said:
You're just as valued as everyone else and thanks for your contribution despite the predictable vitriol you have received here.OnlyLivingBoy said:
Most countries don't provide free decent quality healthcare to their own citizens either. And I don't pay income tax when I go somewhere on holiday. If I live in the UK for years on end and pay income tax, I think I should get the same basic public services as other people, such as schools and healthcare, as everyone else. It would be different if healthcare were funded on an insurance or contributory basis for locals too.DavidL said:
How many countries do you think you can turn up in as a non resident and get free medical care? Have you never bought travel insurance? This seems to me a much more realistic and fair way of sharing the cost of treatment of migrants than issuing big bills after they have had that broken arm set.OnlyLivingBoy said:
Don't they already pay taxes - which last time I looked is how we fund the NHS. People of working age barely use the NHS compared to the retired, anyway, and so from an actuarially fair POV they're probably overpaying already. This whole thing is a non-issue dreamt up by the Tories so that (a) they can persuade gullible voters to believe the NHS is falling apart because of forinners and not because they are underfunding it, and (b) they can establish the idea of some people having to pay for NHS services as a bridgehead for further erosion of the principle that it is free at the point of use.DavidL said:
To be blunt the answer to this is yes. If migrant workers coming to this country are to have free access to the NHS, which they should have, they need to pay the equivalent of an insurance premium up front. Why on earth shouldn't they?Scott_xP said:0 -
This site is very much to the right.Philip_Thompson said:
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.CorrectHorseBattery said:
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.Philip_Thompson said:
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed leftiesCorrectHorseBattery said:
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftieBeibheirli_C said:
Did you watch a different PMQs?CorrectHorseBattery said:Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.
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I get the argument that tax paying immigrants probably shouldn't have to pay an extra charge.
But what do we do about non tax paying immigrants. It'd take a brave man to stand up and argue that a British housespouse shouldn't have access to the NHS because s/he's not paid any tax for the year; but if someone immigrating here has a spouse and kids who aren't contributing to the tax base how do we fund services ?0 -
Yes I can see it.Theuniondivvie said:
Go for it, you could get Phoebe Waller-Bridge to write a worldwide hit drama base on your activities.AlastairMeeks said:
Sorry about that.DavidL said:
So we don't even get to reduce any pension fund deficits because the wrong type of pensioner is dying? Jeez.AlastairMeeks said:Some may find this of interest:
https://www.professionalpensions.com/news/4015474/covid-19-impact-survivor-mortality-rates-‘modest’-study
I always thought I might go into a career after my retirement as an executive hitman, dealing with those particularly awkward individuals that blight organisations. Wealthy pensioners and serial complainers to HR would be obvious work generators.
In the end, I decided that the hours would probably be too unsocial.
Slaying Senior or somesuch.
Alastair in a variety of quirky outfits in relentless pursuit of one particularly elusive target 'moaning wealthy pensioner' called Stephen something or other.
Only problem is I'm stuck for a title.0 -
First Giphy, now Joe Rogan podcast, going for mega bucks. I am in the wrong game.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Urquhart, blimey.
I know a lot of people like it but those are huge numbers. Good for him.0 -
10% Labour? I think that's low-balling it a bit just a touch.CorrectHorseBattery said:
This site is very much to the right.Philip_Thompson said:
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.CorrectHorseBattery said:
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.Philip_Thompson said:
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed leftiesCorrectHorseBattery said:
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftieBeibheirli_C said:
Did you watch a different PMQs?CorrectHorseBattery said:Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.1 -
Citizenship, citizenship, citizenship. The key organising principle around which the nation state is built. It can't just be wished away, no matter how much some people - including Starmer - may desire it.OnlyLivingBoy said:
Most countries don't provide free decent quality healthcare to their own citizens either. And I don't pay income tax when I go somewhere on holiday. If I live in the UK for years on end and pay income tax, I think I should get the same basic public services as other people, such as schools and healthcare, as everyone else. It would be different if healthcare were funded on an insurance or contributory basis for locals too.DavidL said:
How many countries do you think you can turn up in as a non resident and get free medical care? Have you never bought travel insurance? This seems to me a much more realistic and fair way of sharing the cost of treatment of migrants than issuing big bills after they have had that broken arm set.OnlyLivingBoy said:
Don't they already pay taxes - which last time I looked is how we fund the NHS. People of working age barely use the NHS compared to the retired, anyway, and so from an actuarially fair POV they're probably overpaying already. This whole thing is a non-issue dreamt up by the Tories so that (a) they can persuade gullible voters to believe the NHS is falling apart because of forinners and not because they are underfunding it, and (b) they can establish the idea of some people having to pay for NHS services as a bridgehead for further erosion of the principle that it is free at the point of use.DavidL said:
To be blunt the answer to this is yes. If migrant workers coming to this country are to have free access to the NHS, which they should have, they need to pay the equivalent of an insurance premium up front. Why on earth shouldn't they?Scott_xP said:1 -
Explaining travel time buried in disbursements was always fun.Alanbrooke said:
If they were prostitutes, they'd turn up late, read their IPhones in flagrante delicto, and charge you and another punter for the same time.TheScreamingEagles said:
Overpaid prostitutes was one description I was told.Alanbrooke said:
Lawyers are simply overpaid actors.TheScreamingEagles said:God, at PMQS Boris put in the worst performance since Crassus at Carrhae.
Never underestimate a lawyer.
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Oh you're awfully bitter Alan. I am sure she was fully engaged really.Alanbrooke said:
If they were prostitutes, they'd turn up late, read their IPhones in flagrante delicto, and charge you and another punter for the same time.TheScreamingEagles said:
Overpaid prostitutes was one description I was told.Alanbrooke said:
Lawyers are simply overpaid actors.TheScreamingEagles said:God, at PMQS Boris put in the worst performance since Crassus at Carrhae.
Never underestimate a lawyer.0 -
But 80% of the posts are lefty Tweets from Scott, so that balances it outCorrectHorseBattery said:
This site is very much to the right.Philip_Thompson said:
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.CorrectHorseBattery said:
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.Philip_Thompson said:
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed leftiesCorrectHorseBattery said:
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftieBeibheirli_C said:
Did you watch a different PMQs?CorrectHorseBattery said:Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that. 1 -
I would say 10% is pretty accurate. I only knew a few pro-Labour posters.RobD said:
10% Labour? I think that's low-balling it a bit just a touch.CorrectHorseBattery said:
This site is very much to the right.Philip_Thompson said:
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.CorrectHorseBattery said:
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.Philip_Thompson said:
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed leftiesCorrectHorseBattery said:
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftieBeibheirli_C said:
Did you watch a different PMQs?CorrectHorseBattery said:Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.0 -
Well it did explain why they kept coming (fnarr) back for more.Theuniondivvie said:
I hope you told them that you always gave your johns great value for money.TheScreamingEagles said:
Overpaid prostitutes was one description I was told.Alanbrooke said:
Lawyers are simply overpaid actors.TheScreamingEagles said:God, at PMQS Boris put in the worst performance since Crassus at Carrhae.
Never underestimate a lawyer.0 -
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I very very much doubt that.CorrectHorseBattery said:
This site is very much to the right.Philip_Thompson said:
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.CorrectHorseBattery said:
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.Philip_Thompson said:
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed leftiesCorrectHorseBattery said:
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftieBeibheirli_C said:
Did you watch a different PMQs?CorrectHorseBattery said:Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.
This site is probably closely aligned to the nation. I'd imagine roughly half the posters here voted Tory just like the nation as a whole.1 -
I was pretty close to that. Increasingly negative on May, really thought she should have gone in 2017. Warmish towards Boris, if not quite as fulsome as you.Philip_Thompson said:
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.CorrectHorseBattery said:
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.Philip_Thompson said:
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed leftiesCorrectHorseBattery said:
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftieBeibheirli_C said:
Did you watch a different PMQs?CorrectHorseBattery said:Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.1 -
Nobody’s saying it - but imagine the big scary thought that COVID emulates Spanish flu. That it comes back in a more dangerous (to the generally young and healthy) form in the autumn except for those who have had it in the first wave. And we’ve all missed the opportunity to get the “harmless” form thanks to the lockdowns.
Except for the Swedes. Who escaped the worst of the Spanish flu in 1918 because... they all got it in the first wave.0 -
Spain tightens mask rules for all older than five
Wearing masks is being made compulsory in Spain both indoors and out in public if social distancing is not possible.
Only children under six and people with health issues are exempt from the law, which comes into force on Thursday.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-527351660 -
the second wave of Spanish flu was more deadly than the firstalex_ said:Nobody’s saying it - but imagine the big scary thought that COVID emulates Spanish flu. That it comes back in a more dangerous (to the generally young and healthy) form in the autumn except for those who have had it in the first wave. And we’ve all missed the opportunity to get the “harmless” form thanks to the lockdowns.
Except for the Swedes. Who escaped the worst of the Spanish flu in 1918 because... they all got it in the first wave.0 -
Scott does his best, he is one of the few leftie posters I can think of.BluestBlue said:
But 80% of the posts are lefty Tweets from Scott, so that balances it outCorrectHorseBattery said:
This site is very much to the right.Philip_Thompson said:
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.CorrectHorseBattery said:
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.Philip_Thompson said:
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed leftiesCorrectHorseBattery said:
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftieBeibheirli_C said:
Did you watch a different PMQs?CorrectHorseBattery said:Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.0 -
I stand corrected. You're one of the posters I agree with the most so perhaps that shouldn't surprise me.DavidL said:
I was pretty close to that. Increasingly negative on May, really thought she should have gone in 2017. Warmish towards Boris, if not quite as fulsome as you.Philip_Thompson said:
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.CorrectHorseBattery said:
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.Philip_Thompson said:
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed leftiesCorrectHorseBattery said:
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftieBeibheirli_C said:
Did you watch a different PMQs?CorrectHorseBattery said:Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.1 -
Parcelgate -- add a new layer of internal packaging so it looks like you never got to see what was hidden inside. Or blackmail him.DavidL said:
Maybe with a soundtrack of Schools out for Summer?Floater said:Conundrum of the day
We had 2 parcels delivered - we were expecting 2 parcels
Wife opens them - it becomes clear that actually one of those isn't for us.
Checks label - its for next door - but the guy who delivered it did not say that, he just said "parcel for you"
Packaging now ripped so its clear we opened it
contents are one "geeky schoolgirl" outfit....................
A bit early for Halloween and on a hunch guessing no fancy dress parties incoming........
How to hand it over in least embarrassing way for both parties ..........0 -
Clearly if someone becomes a part of our community by seeking citizenship or a permanent right to remain that is a different scenario.OnlyLivingBoy said:
Most countries don't provide free decent quality healthcare to their own citizens either. And I don't pay income tax when I go somewhere on holiday. If I live in the UK for years on end and pay income tax, I think I should get the same basic public services as other people, such as schools and healthcare, as everyone else. It would be different if healthcare were funded on an insurance or contributory basis for locals too.DavidL said:
How many countries do you think you can turn up in as a non resident and get free medical care? Have you never bought travel insurance? This seems to me a much more realistic and fair way of sharing the cost of treatment of migrants than issuing big bills after they have had that broken arm set.OnlyLivingBoy said:
Don't they already pay taxes - which last time I looked is how we fund the NHS. People of working age barely use the NHS compared to the retired, anyway, and so from an actuarially fair POV they're probably overpaying already. This whole thing is a non-issue dreamt up by the Tories so that (a) they can persuade gullible voters to believe the NHS is falling apart because of forinners and not because they are underfunding it, and (b) they can establish the idea of some people having to pay for NHS services as a bridgehead for further erosion of the principle that it is free at the point of use.DavidL said:
To be blunt the answer to this is yes. If migrant workers coming to this country are to have free access to the NHS, which they should have, they need to pay the equivalent of an insurance premium up front. Why on earth shouldn't they?Scott_xP said:2 -
Hancock was visibly uneasy as that tweet pointed out probably because he remembered he had left the iron on, not because he heard untruth after untruth uttered by the PM.IshmaelZ said:
He has raised his game, just not by enough.Beibheirli_C said:
Did you watch a different PMQs?CorrectHorseBattery said:Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
Speaker telling off Hancock was bloody scary.
I have no doubt that the speaker upbraided him for trying to tell Johnson to STFU.
As for Boris, he reeled out the tractor stats well enough but Starmer kept, cleverly imo, pointing out that Johnson had not understood him. In sympathy not anger. That will be what does for Johnson if anything does - the more in sorrow than anger realisation that he simply is not 100%.
And whether you love (HYUFD) or loathe (me) him, he is only just back from death's door so it is hardly surprising.1 -
LOL, how many read the Scotsman , 5-7K if very lucky. Nobody pays any attention to their unionist frothing.CarlottaVance said:No doubt the first of many uncomfortable reports for the governments & administrations of the UK:
https://twitter.com/Jonathon_Shafi/status/1262858597362475012?s=200 -
Erm, isn't Scott an anti-Boris Tory?CorrectHorseBattery said:
Scott does his best, he is one of the few leftie posters I can think of.BluestBlue said:
But 80% of the posts are lefty Tweets from Scott, so that balances it outCorrectHorseBattery said:
This site is very much to the right.Philip_Thompson said:
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.CorrectHorseBattery said:
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.Philip_Thompson said:
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed leftiesCorrectHorseBattery said:
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftieBeibheirli_C said:
Did you watch a different PMQs?CorrectHorseBattery said:Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.1 -
Of course. Anyone who becomes a UK citizen doesn't need to pay this surcharge.DavidL said:
Clearly if someone becomes a part of our community by seeking citizenship or a permanent right to remain that is a different scenario.OnlyLivingBoy said:
Most countries don't provide free decent quality healthcare to their own citizens either. And I don't pay income tax when I go somewhere on holiday. If I live in the UK for years on end and pay income tax, I think I should get the same basic public services as other people, such as schools and healthcare, as everyone else. It would be different if healthcare were funded on an insurance or contributory basis for locals too.DavidL said:
How many countries do you think you can turn up in as a non resident and get free medical care? Have you never bought travel insurance? This seems to me a much more realistic and fair way of sharing the cost of treatment of migrants than issuing big bills after they have had that broken arm set.OnlyLivingBoy said:
Don't they already pay taxes - which last time I looked is how we fund the NHS. People of working age barely use the NHS compared to the retired, anyway, and so from an actuarially fair POV they're probably overpaying already. This whole thing is a non-issue dreamt up by the Tories so that (a) they can persuade gullible voters to believe the NHS is falling apart because of forinners and not because they are underfunding it, and (b) they can establish the idea of some people having to pay for NHS services as a bridgehead for further erosion of the principle that it is free at the point of use.DavidL said:
To be blunt the answer to this is yes. If migrant workers coming to this country are to have free access to the NHS, which they should have, they need to pay the equivalent of an insurance premium up front. Why on earth shouldn't they?Scott_xP said:
It's very easy once more to see people wanting to throw money at everything and on an ongoing basis rather than come up with a solution. This surcharge raises nearly a billion pounds per year for the NHS ... should that be taken out of the NHS budget if this charge is dropped?0 -
I'll happily take that bet if you are willing to back up that prediction. What odds do you want?Ave_it said:
HAHAHA I leave the whinging to people like you! Enjoy opposition for another 20 years.Gallowgate said:
That’s not what PMQs is for. Stop whinging. You’re worse than the “metropolitan windbags” you deride so much.Ave_it said:
Er yes it is. If LAB can't come up with any ideas/policies no one is going to vote for them!Gallowgate said:
It’s not his job to offer solutions, it’s his job to hold the Prime Minister to account for his decisions and policies.Ave_it said:
I thought Boris did ok today. Starmer = typical LAB metropolitan windbag, all whinging, no solutionsBig_G_NorthWales said:Starmer coming over all 'holier than thou' and playing on emotions
Boris is not upto speed but not a complete walkover for Starmer today
Boris has a lot more to do to convince me he is back where he was before covid0 -
I stand corrected. Even less lefties than I thought then.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Erm, isn't Scott an anti-Boris Tory?CorrectHorseBattery said:
Scott does his best, he is one of the few leftie posters I can think of.BluestBlue said:
But 80% of the posts are lefty Tweets from Scott, so that balances it outCorrectHorseBattery said:
This site is very much to the right.Philip_Thompson said:
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.CorrectHorseBattery said:
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.Philip_Thompson said:
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed leftiesCorrectHorseBattery said:
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftieBeibheirli_C said:
Did you watch a different PMQs?CorrectHorseBattery said:Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.0 -
Who is joe RoganFrancisUrquhart said:F##k me, Spotify paid $100 million for the exclusive rights to Joe Rogan Podcast. That will buy you some McDonald's unhappy meals!!!
https://www.wsj.com/articles/spotify-strikes-exclusive-podcast-deal-with-joe-rogan-115899138140 -
AM's previous moniker was more enigmatic -kinabalu said:
Yes I can see it.Theuniondivvie said:
Go for it, you could get Phoebe Waller-Bridge to write a worldwide hit drama base on your activities.AlastairMeeks said:
Sorry about that.DavidL said:
So we don't even get to reduce any pension fund deficits because the wrong type of pensioner is dying? Jeez.AlastairMeeks said:Some may find this of interest:
https://www.professionalpensions.com/news/4015474/covid-19-impact-survivor-mortality-rates-‘modest’-study
I always thought I might go into a career after my retirement as an executive hitman, dealing with those particularly awkward individuals that blight organisations. Wealthy pensioners and serial complainers to HR would be obvious work generators.
In the end, I decided that the hours would probably be too unsocial.
Slaying Senior or somesuch.
Alastair in a variety of quirky outfits in relentless pursuit of one particularly elusive target 'moaning wealthy pensioner' called Stephen something or other.
Only problem is I'm stuck for a title.
Antifrank
In a trendy retro typeface over swooping shots of the English Riviera with some obscure 60s girl band jangling in the background.
It's a start.1 -
ex Tory I suspect.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Erm, isn't Scott an anti-Boris Tory?CorrectHorseBattery said:
Scott does his best, he is one of the few leftie posters I can think of.BluestBlue said:
But 80% of the posts are lefty Tweets from Scott, so that balances it outCorrectHorseBattery said:
This site is very much to the right.Philip_Thompson said:
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.CorrectHorseBattery said:
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.Philip_Thompson said:
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed leftiesCorrectHorseBattery said:
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftieBeibheirli_C said:
Did you watch a different PMQs?CorrectHorseBattery said:Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.
Like TSE and more.0 -
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/19/keep-distance-new-coronavirus-slogan-quietly-pushed-replace/
Huh, but the Tories here insisted it was clear0 -
We welcome lefties. The more the merrier. Some of them, however, get very frustrated with the perceived right wing nature of the site (as people have pointed out, I don't think it especially is) and then go off on one and get banned or bored.CorrectHorseBattery said:This site is very much to the right.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.0 -
Which is the point of my post...?Alanbrooke said:
the second wave of Spanish flu was more deadly than the firstalex_ said:Nobody’s saying it - but imagine the big scary thought that COVID emulates Spanish flu. That it comes back in a more dangerous (to the generally young and healthy) form in the autumn except for those who have had it in the first wave. And we’ve all missed the opportunity to get the “harmless” form thanks to the lockdowns.
Except for the Swedes. Who escaped the worst of the Spanish flu in 1918 because... they all got it in the first wave.0 -
It does mean we stand out a bit more. For a PB Tory that is more difficult. They have to be unusually woke (like @TOPPING) or else they have to go to the other extreme and take quite ridiculously neanderthal positions like - well, no names no packdrill - or failing this they have to somehow manage to be Tory supporting and yet thoughtful and intelligent, which is no easy feat but is just about possible on a good day with a following wind.CorrectHorseBattery said:
This site is very much to the right.Philip_Thompson said:
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.CorrectHorseBattery said:
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.Philip_Thompson said:
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed leftiesCorrectHorseBattery said:
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftieBeibheirli_C said:
Did you watch a different PMQs?CorrectHorseBattery said:Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.0 -
@bigjohnowls , @Gallowgate , @OnlyLivingBoy are 3 that immediately come to mind. Scott is a Tory in despair about Brexit.CorrectHorseBattery said:
Scott does his best, he is one of the few leftie posters I can think of.BluestBlue said:
But 80% of the posts are lefty Tweets from Scott, so that balances it outCorrectHorseBattery said:
This site is very much to the right.Philip_Thompson said:
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.CorrectHorseBattery said:
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.Philip_Thompson said:
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed leftiesCorrectHorseBattery said:
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftieBeibheirli_C said:
Did you watch a different PMQs?CorrectHorseBattery said:Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.1 -
Nick Palmer waves...DavidL said:
@bigjohnowls , @Gallowgate , @OnlyLivingBoy are 3 that immediately come to mind. Scott is a Tory in despair about Brexit.CorrectHorseBattery said:
Scott does his best, he is one of the few leftie posters I can think of.BluestBlue said:
But 80% of the posts are lefty Tweets from Scott, so that balances it outCorrectHorseBattery said:
This site is very much to the right.Philip_Thompson said:
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.CorrectHorseBattery said:
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.Philip_Thompson said:
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed leftiesCorrectHorseBattery said:
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftieBeibheirli_C said:
Did you watch a different PMQs?CorrectHorseBattery said:Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.0 -
Well there's a new YouGov. Labour are up to 33% and the Tory lead with YouGov is down to 15%. It was 20% last time and 24% in the last YouGov prior to Starmer being elected.BluestBlue said:
We're still waiting for that magic 38-40 moment...CorrectHorseBattery said:
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftieBeibheirli_C said:
Did you watch a different PMQs?CorrectHorseBattery said:Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
Johnson "Best PM" lead down from 24% to 12% in the course of a fortnight.
https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/246il6g7ik/TheTimes_VI_Trackers_200519_W.pdf
0 -
NHS England numbers out - 166
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Betting?OllyT said:
I'll happily take that bet if you are willing to back up that prediction. What odds do you want?Ave_it said:
HAHAHA I leave the whinging to people like you! Enjoy opposition for another 20 years.Gallowgate said:
That’s not what PMQs is for. Stop whinging. You’re worse than the “metropolitan windbags” you deride so much.Ave_it said:
Er yes it is. If LAB can't come up with any ideas/policies no one is going to vote for them!Gallowgate said:
It’s not his job to offer solutions, it’s his job to hold the Prime Minister to account for his decisions and policies.Ave_it said:
I thought Boris did ok today. Starmer = typical LAB metropolitan windbag, all whinging, no solutionsBig_G_NorthWales said:Starmer coming over all 'holier than thou' and playing on emotions
Boris is not upto speed but not a complete walkover for Starmer today
Boris has a lot more to do to convince me he is back where he was before covid
I don't come here to talk about betting! 2 -
He is/was a Tory.CorrectHorseBattery said:
Scott does his best, he is one of the few leftie posters I can think of.BluestBlue said:
But 80% of the posts are lefty Tweets from Scott, so that balances it outCorrectHorseBattery said:
This site is very much to the right.Philip_Thompson said:
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.CorrectHorseBattery said:
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.Philip_Thompson said:
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed leftiesCorrectHorseBattery said:
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftieBeibheirli_C said:
Did you watch a different PMQs?CorrectHorseBattery said:Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.0 -
My wife is expecting a parcel imminently. Somewhat disappointingly I am told that this is pencils rather than an outfit.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Parcelgate -- add a new layer of internal packaging so it looks like you never got to see what was hidden inside. Or blackmail him.DavidL said:
Maybe with a soundtrack of Schools out for Summer?Floater said:Conundrum of the day
We had 2 parcels delivered - we were expecting 2 parcels
Wife opens them - it becomes clear that actually one of those isn't for us.
Checks label - its for next door - but the guy who delivered it did not say that, he just said "parcel for you"
Packaging now ripped so its clear we opened it
contents are one "geeky schoolgirl" outfit....................
A bit early for Halloween and on a hunch guessing no fancy dress parties incoming........
How to hand it over in least embarrassing way for both parties ..........0 -
Next you will be telling me Attila the Hun was a peace loving guyTOPPING said:
We welcome lefties. The more the merrier. Some of them, however, get very frustrated with the perceived right wing nature of the site (as people have pointed out, I don't think it especially is) and then go off on one and get banned or bored.CorrectHorseBattery said:This site is very much to the right.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.0 -
Really proves my point then, there are very few leftie posters here.RobD said:
He is/was a Tory.CorrectHorseBattery said:
Scott does his best, he is one of the few leftie posters I can think of.BluestBlue said:
But 80% of the posts are lefty Tweets from Scott, so that balances it outCorrectHorseBattery said:
This site is very much to the right.Philip_Thompson said:
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.CorrectHorseBattery said:
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.Philip_Thompson said:
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed leftiesCorrectHorseBattery said:
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftieBeibheirli_C said:
Did you watch a different PMQs?CorrectHorseBattery said:Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.0 -
I would be surprised if the Tory lead isn't in the single figures by the end of this year.Wulfrun_Phil said:
Well there's a new YouGov. Labour are up to 33% and the Tory lead with YouGov is down to 15%. It was 20% last time and 24% in the last YouGov prior to Starmer being elected.BluestBlue said:
We're still waiting for that magic 38-40 moment...CorrectHorseBattery said:
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftieBeibheirli_C said:
Did you watch a different PMQs?CorrectHorseBattery said:Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
Johnson "Best PM" lead down from 24% to 12% in the course of a fortnight.
https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/246il6g7ik/TheTimes_VI_Trackers_200519_W.pdf0 -
I was thinking of those three + me.DavidL said:
@bigjohnowls , @Gallowgate , @OnlyLivingBoy are 3 that immediately come to mind. Scott is a Tory in despair about Brexit.CorrectHorseBattery said:
Scott does his best, he is one of the few leftie posters I can think of.BluestBlue said:
But 80% of the posts are lefty Tweets from Scott, so that balances it outCorrectHorseBattery said:
This site is very much to the right.Philip_Thompson said:
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.CorrectHorseBattery said:
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.Philip_Thompson said:
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed leftiesCorrectHorseBattery said:
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftieBeibheirli_C said:
Did you watch a different PMQs?CorrectHorseBattery said:Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.0 -
I’m a centrist blairite scumbag0
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Proving your point would be doing a survey/census. While they are in the minority, I don't think it's 10%.CorrectHorseBattery said:
Really proves my point then, there are very few leftie posters here.RobD said:
He is/was a Tory.CorrectHorseBattery said:
Scott does his best, he is one of the few leftie posters I can think of.BluestBlue said:
But 80% of the posts are lefty Tweets from Scott, so that balances it outCorrectHorseBattery said:
This site is very much to the right.Philip_Thompson said:
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.CorrectHorseBattery said:
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.Philip_Thompson said:
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed leftiesCorrectHorseBattery said:
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftieBeibheirli_C said:
Did you watch a different PMQs?CorrectHorseBattery said:Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.0 -
I've never heard anyone say Johnson is a good orator, but he is undeniably gifted in handling an audience. His main problem with PMQs at the moment is the lack of an audience.CorrectHorseBattery said:Genuinely think Johnson might be worse than May at PMQs. Who said he was a good orator, he can hardly speak clearly.
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I don't believe I have "gone off on one", I was just making an observation.TOPPING said:
We welcome lefties. The more the merrier. Some of them, however, get very frustrated with the perceived right wing nature of the site (as people have pointed out, I don't think it especially is) and then go off on one and get banned or bored.CorrectHorseBattery said:This site is very much to the right.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.
For me, I much prefer this site compared to others that just confirm my views.0 -
You think there are only four labour voters on the site?CorrectHorseBattery said:
I was thinking of those three + me.DavidL said:
@bigjohnowls , @Gallowgate , @OnlyLivingBoy are 3 that immediately come to mind. Scott is a Tory in despair about Brexit.CorrectHorseBattery said:
Scott does his best, he is one of the few leftie posters I can think of.BluestBlue said:
But 80% of the posts are lefty Tweets from Scott, so that balances it outCorrectHorseBattery said:
This site is very much to the right.Philip_Thompson said:
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.CorrectHorseBattery said:
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.Philip_Thompson said:
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed leftiesCorrectHorseBattery said:
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftieBeibheirli_C said:
Did you watch a different PMQs?CorrectHorseBattery said:Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that. 0 -
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A Tory then? I stand corrected.Gallowgate said:I’m a centrist blairite scumbag
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Vegetarian and anti-foxhunting I believe.malcolmg said:
Next you will be telling me Attila the Hun was a peace loving guyTOPPING said:
We welcome lefties. The more the merrier. Some of them, however, get very frustrated with the perceived right wing nature of the site (as people have pointed out, I don't think it especially is) and then go off on one and get banned or bored.CorrectHorseBattery said:This site is very much to the right.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.0 -
I think it's 10%.RobD said:
Proving your point would be doing a survey/census. While they are in the minority, I don't think it's 10%.CorrectHorseBattery said:
Really proves my point then, there are very few leftie posters here.RobD said:
He is/was a Tory.CorrectHorseBattery said:
Scott does his best, he is one of the few leftie posters I can think of.BluestBlue said:
But 80% of the posts are lefty Tweets from Scott, so that balances it outCorrectHorseBattery said:
This site is very much to the right.Philip_Thompson said:
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.CorrectHorseBattery said:
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.Philip_Thompson said:
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed leftiesCorrectHorseBattery said:
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftieBeibheirli_C said:
Did you watch a different PMQs?CorrectHorseBattery said:Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.
@MikeSmithson can we do a poll of voter intention on this site? Would be genuinely curious.0 -
No those were the ones I could name off the top of my head.RobD said:
You think there are only four labour voters on the site?CorrectHorseBattery said:
I was thinking of those three + me.DavidL said:
@bigjohnowls , @Gallowgate , @OnlyLivingBoy are 3 that immediately come to mind. Scott is a Tory in despair about Brexit.CorrectHorseBattery said:
Scott does his best, he is one of the few leftie posters I can think of.BluestBlue said:
But 80% of the posts are lefty Tweets from Scott, so that balances it outCorrectHorseBattery said:
This site is very much to the right.Philip_Thompson said:
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.CorrectHorseBattery said:
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.Philip_Thompson said:
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed leftiesCorrectHorseBattery said:
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftieBeibheirli_C said:
Did you watch a different PMQs?CorrectHorseBattery said:Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.
When you post it's like you just discovered the emoji button on your keyboard.0 -
The old proposal to make all the PB Tories wear a badge (mainly to be refused treatment on the NHS) didn't go down so well.CorrectHorseBattery said:
I think it's 10%.RobD said:
Proving your point would be doing a survey/census. While they are in the minority, I don't think it's 10%.CorrectHorseBattery said:
Really proves my point then, there are very few leftie posters here.RobD said:
He is/was a Tory.CorrectHorseBattery said:
Scott does his best, he is one of the few leftie posters I can think of.BluestBlue said:
But 80% of the posts are lefty Tweets from Scott, so that balances it outCorrectHorseBattery said:
This site is very much to the right.Philip_Thompson said:
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.CorrectHorseBattery said:
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.Philip_Thompson said:
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed leftiesCorrectHorseBattery said:
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftieBeibheirli_C said:
Did you watch a different PMQs?CorrectHorseBattery said:Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.
@MikeSmithson can we do a poll of voter intention on this site? Would be genuinely curious.
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Anyone sane knew there would be checks.Scott_xP said:0 -
Have you fecked off and joined the tories yet?Gallowgate said:I’m a centrist blairite scumbag
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Britain’s Jewish community, which comprises around 0.5 per cent of the population - just 264,000 people - has suffered a high death toll. Figures from the Board of Deputies of British Jews say that 458 Jews have lost their lives to the virus since the pandemic began.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-52731506/losing-a-beacon-of-light-of-the-uk-s-ultra-orthodox-community-to-coronavirus0 -
Whoops! Embarrassing. Sorry @NickPalmer And no doubt many others. I also think 10% is low.FrancisUrquhart said:
Nick Palmer waves...DavidL said:
@bigjohnowls , @Gallowgate , @OnlyLivingBoy are 3 that immediately come to mind. Scott is a Tory in despair about Brexit.CorrectHorseBattery said:
Scott does his best, he is one of the few leftie posters I can think of.BluestBlue said:
But 80% of the posts are lefty Tweets from Scott, so that balances it outCorrectHorseBattery said:
This site is very much to the right.Philip_Thompson said:
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.CorrectHorseBattery said:
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.Philip_Thompson said:
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed leftiesCorrectHorseBattery said:
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftieBeibheirli_C said:
Did you watch a different PMQs?CorrectHorseBattery said:Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.0 -
I am NOT a Tory, I have a heart and don't lie.Gallowgate said:I’m a centrist blairite scumbag
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I would but @HYUFD says I’m not allowed.Floater said:
Have you fecked off and joined the tories yet?Gallowgate said:I’m a centrist blairite scumbag
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You actually agree with me a lot, I sense. No surprise because we are both social liberals and like to look forwards and embrace the future rather than cling to old, outdated shibboleths.Philip_Thompson said:
I stand corrected. You're one of the posters I agree with the most so perhaps that shouldn't surprise me.DavidL said:
I was pretty close to that. Increasingly negative on May, really thought she should have gone in 2017. Warmish towards Boris, if not quite as fulsome as you.Philip_Thompson said:
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.CorrectHorseBattery said:
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.Philip_Thompson said:
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed leftiesCorrectHorseBattery said:
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftieBeibheirli_C said:
Did you watch a different PMQs?CorrectHorseBattery said:Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.1 -
Me too, although I disguise it by being pro-Brexit.FrancisUrquhart said:
Nick Palmer waves...DavidL said:
@bigjohnowls , @Gallowgate , @OnlyLivingBoy are 3 that immediately come to mind. Scott is a Tory in despair about Brexit.CorrectHorseBattery said:
Scott does his best, he is one of the few leftie posters I can think of.BluestBlue said:
But 80% of the posts are lefty Tweets from Scott, so that balances it outCorrectHorseBattery said:
This site is very much to the right.Philip_Thompson said:
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.CorrectHorseBattery said:
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.Philip_Thompson said:
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed leftiesCorrectHorseBattery said:
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftieBeibheirli_C said:
Did you watch a different PMQs?CorrectHorseBattery said:Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.1 -
I don't think you have gone off on one either. I'm just saying one reason I've observed for some lefties to have, er, left.CorrectHorseBattery said:
I don't believe I have "gone off on one", I was just making an observation.TOPPING said:
We welcome lefties. The more the merrier. Some of them, however, get very frustrated with the perceived right wing nature of the site (as people have pointed out, I don't think it especially is) and then go off on one and get banned or bored.CorrectHorseBattery said:This site is very much to the right.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.
For me, I much prefer this site compared to others that just confirm my views.
I hope you and all the other ones stay as long as you wish.1 -
So your not bothered about deaths, unless they can be blamed on Westminister?malcolmg said:
LOL, how many read the Scotsman , 5-7K if very lucky. Nobody pays any attention to their unionist frothing.CarlottaVance said:No doubt the first of many uncomfortable reports for the governments & administrations of the UK:
https://twitter.com/Jonathon_Shafi/status/1262858597362475012?s=20
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I agree , there is not many Labour posters on here .Probably more Lib dems than Labour.CorrectHorseBattery said:
I would say 10% is pretty accurate. I only knew a few pro-Labour posters.RobD said:
10% Labour? I think that's low-balling it a bit just a touch.CorrectHorseBattery said:
This site is very much to the right.Philip_Thompson said:
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.CorrectHorseBattery said:
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.Philip_Thompson said:
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed leftiesCorrectHorseBattery said:
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftieBeibheirli_C said:
Did you watch a different PMQs?CorrectHorseBattery said:Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.
The comments are totally dominated by conservatives.
One example is Phillip Thompson who seems a decent bloke, who seems to be on here constantly.1 -
@RochdalePioneers, @SouthamObserver, @justin124 to name three other regulars.DavidL said:
Whoops! Embarrassing. Sorry @NickPalmer And no doubt many others. I also think 10% is low.FrancisUrquhart said:
Nick Palmer waves...DavidL said:
@bigjohnowls , @Gallowgate , @OnlyLivingBoy are 3 that immediately come to mind. Scott is a Tory in despair about Brexit.CorrectHorseBattery said:
Scott does his best, he is one of the few leftie posters I can think of.BluestBlue said:
But 80% of the posts are lefty Tweets from Scott, so that balances it outCorrectHorseBattery said:
This site is very much to the right.Philip_Thompson said:
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.CorrectHorseBattery said:
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.Philip_Thompson said:
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed leftiesCorrectHorseBattery said:
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftieBeibheirli_C said:
Did you watch a different PMQs?CorrectHorseBattery said:Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.0
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