Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
Did you watch a different PMQs?
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftie
We're still waiting for that magic 38-40 moment...
Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
Did you watch a different PMQs?
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
To be blunt the answer to this is yes. If migrant workers coming to this country are to have free access to the NHS, which they should have, they need to pay the equivalent of an insurance premium up front. Why on earth shouldn't they?
Don't they already pay taxes - which last time I looked is how we fund the NHS. People of working age barely use the NHS compared to the retired, anyway, and so from an actuarially fair POV they're probably overpaying already. This whole thing is a non-issue dreamt up by the Tories so that (a) they can persuade gullible voters to believe the NHS is falling apart because of forinners and not because they are underfunding it, and (b) they can establish the idea of some people having to pay for NHS services as a bridgehead for further erosion of the principle that it is free at the point of use.
How many countries do you think you can turn up in as a non resident and get free medical care? Have you never bought travel insurance? This seems to me a much more realistic and fair way of sharing the cost of treatment of migrants than issuing big bills after they have had that broken arm set.
Starmer is probably only going down this line to puncture Boris' popularity with the NHS. Would it be such a bad move for Boris to abolish the fee for migrants who are NHS workers and pay for it by increasing it for everyone else?
Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
Did you watch a different PMQs?
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftie
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed lefties
Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
Did you watch a different PMQs?
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftie
We're still waiting for that magic 38-40 moment...
I'm sure Labour will poll 40% sometime in the next five years.
Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez has asked parliament to extend the country's state of emergency for another two weeks, drawing fierce criticism from opposition parties.
Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
Did you watch a different PMQs?
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftie
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed lefties
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.
To be blunt the answer to this is yes. If migrant workers coming to this country are to have free access to the NHS, which they should have, they need to pay the equivalent of an insurance premium up front. Why on earth shouldn't they?
Don't they already pay taxes - which last time I looked is how we fund the NHS. People of working age barely use the NHS compared to the retired, anyway, and so from an actuarially fair POV they're probably overpaying already. This whole thing is a non-issue dreamt up by the Tories so that (a) they can persuade gullible voters to believe the NHS is falling apart because of forinners and not because they are underfunding it, and (b) they can establish the idea of some people having to pay for NHS services as a bridgehead for further erosion of the principle that it is free at the point of use.
How many countries do you think you can turn up in as a non resident and get free medical care? Have you never bought travel insurance? This seems to me a much more realistic and fair way of sharing the cost of treatment of migrants than issuing big bills after they have had that broken arm set.
Most countries don't provide free decent quality healthcare to their own citizens either. And I don't pay income tax when I go somewhere on holiday. If I live in the UK for years on end and pay income tax, I think I should get the same basic public services as other people, such as schools and healthcare, as everyone else. It would be different if healthcare were funded on an insurance or contributory basis for locals too.
In America they charge you for the medical help you receive. We don't.
We pay for it out of general taxation, which immigrants pay.
Do you really not see the difference between a UK citizen and a migrant worker in terms of eligibility? I find that astonishing.
Of course if a company wants migrant workers to come it may have to pay this NHS surcharge themselves. Or train some of the indigenous population. In some circumstances we may want to waive it because it is very much in our interests that the come. Doctors coming to work in the NHS may be such an example. But they simply don't have the same rights as the rest of us unless we choose to give them to them in our own interests.
To be blunt the answer to this is yes. If migrant workers coming to this country are to have free access to the NHS, which they should have, they need to pay the equivalent of an insurance premium up front. Why on earth shouldn't they?
Don't they already pay taxes - which last time I looked is how we fund the NHS. People of working age barely use the NHS compared to the retired, anyway, and so from an actuarially fair POV they're probably overpaying already. This whole thing is a non-issue dreamt up by the Tories so that (a) they can persuade gullible voters to believe the NHS is falling apart because of forinners and not because they are underfunding it, and (b) they can establish the idea of some people having to pay for NHS services as a bridgehead for further erosion of the principle that it is free at the point of use.
How many countries do you think you can turn up in as a non resident and get free medical care? Have you never bought travel insurance? This seems to me a much more realistic and fair way of sharing the cost of treatment of migrants than issuing big bills after they have had that broken arm set.
Most countries don't provide free decent quality healthcare to their own citizens either. And I don't pay income tax when I go somewhere on holiday. If I live in the UK for years on end and pay income tax, I think I should get the same basic public services as other people, such as schools and healthcare, as everyone else. It would be different if healthcare were funded on an insurance or contributory basis for locals too.
You're just as valued as everyone else and thanks for your contribution despite the predictable vitriol you have received here.
I dont get why the FBPE bots on twitter are so offended about journalists saying it was a score draw at PMQs or Boris got a marginal win. No one needs to care too much about PMQs - it has a minor effect on anything. It's a ridiculous look to praise a journalist last week when he's bigging up Starmer and then claim he's biased this week because he didn't fawn over Starmer.
The angry centrist cult will do more damage to Labour's chances of being an electable proposition than their leader ever will.
To be blunt the answer to this is yes. If migrant workers coming to this country are to have free access to the NHS, which they should have, they need to pay the equivalent of an insurance premium up front. Why on earth shouldn't they?
Don't they already pay taxes - which last time I looked is how we fund the NHS. People of working age barely use the NHS compared to the retired, anyway, and so from an actuarially fair POV they're probably overpaying already. This whole thing is a non-issue dreamt up by the Tories so that (a) they can persuade gullible voters to believe the NHS is falling apart because of forinners and not because they are underfunding it, and (b) they can establish the idea of some people having to pay for NHS services as a bridgehead for further erosion of the principle that it is free at the point of use.
How many countries do you think you can turn up in as a non resident and get free medical care? Have you never bought travel insurance? This seems to me a much more realistic and fair way of sharing the cost of treatment of migrants than issuing big bills after they have had that broken arm set.
Most countries don't provide free decent quality healthcare to their own citizens either. And I don't pay income tax when I go somewhere on holiday. If I live in the UK for years on end and pay income tax, I think I should get the same basic public services as other people, such as schools and healthcare, as everyone else. It would be different if healthcare were funded on an insurance or contributory basis for locals too.
This isn't about people going on holiday somewhere.
Mr. L, the last couple of times I had McDonalds, years ago, was late night after hospital (nothing bad). Glad to find somewhere open, but it was disappointing to discover they'd let some fries into my bag of salt.
Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
Did you watch a different PMQs?
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftie
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed lefties
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
Did you watch a different PMQs?
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
He has raised his game, just not by enough.
Speaker telling off Hancock was bloody scary.
Any more of that and pb Tories will be calling for the return of John Bercow.
Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
Did you watch a different PMQs?
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftie
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed lefties
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.
To be blunt the answer to this is yes. If migrant workers coming to this country are to have free access to the NHS, which they should have, they need to pay the equivalent of an insurance premium up front. Why on earth shouldn't they?
Don't they already pay taxes - which last time I looked is how we fund the NHS. People of working age barely use the NHS compared to the retired, anyway, and so from an actuarially fair POV they're probably overpaying already. This whole thing is a non-issue dreamt up by the Tories so that (a) they can persuade gullible voters to believe the NHS is falling apart because of forinners and not because they are underfunding it, and (b) they can establish the idea of some people having to pay for NHS services as a bridgehead for further erosion of the principle that it is free at the point of use.
How many countries do you think you can turn up in as a non resident and get free medical care? Have you never bought travel insurance? This seems to me a much more realistic and fair way of sharing the cost of treatment of migrants than issuing big bills after they have had that broken arm set.
Most countries don't provide free decent quality healthcare to their own citizens either. And I don't pay income tax when I go somewhere on holiday. If I live in the UK for years on end and pay income tax, I think I should get the same basic public services as other people, such as schools and healthcare, as everyone else. It would be different if healthcare were funded on an insurance or contributory basis for locals too.
You're just as valued as everyone else and thanks for your contribution despite the predictable vitriol you have received here.
A somewhat strange comment, I've not seen any vitriol in the thread today?
Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
Did you watch a different PMQs?
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftie
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed lefties
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
This site is very much to the right.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
So we don't even get to reduce any pension fund deficits because the wrong type of pensioner is dying? Jeez.
Sorry about that.
I always thought I might go into a career after my retirement as an executive hitman, dealing with those particularly awkward individuals that blight organisations. Wealthy pensioners and serial complainers to HR would be obvious work generators.
In the end, I decided that the hours would probably be too unsocial.
Go for it, you could get Phoebe Waller-Bridge to write a worldwide hit drama base on your activities. Slaying Senior or somesuch.
Yes I can see it.
Alastair in a variety of quirky outfits in relentless pursuit of one particularly elusive target 'moaning wealthy pensioner' called Stephen something or other.
I get the argument that tax paying immigrants probably shouldn't have to pay an extra charge. But what do we do about non tax paying immigrants. It'd take a brave man to stand up and argue that a British housespouse shouldn't have access to the NHS because s/he's not paid any tax for the year; but if someone immigrating here has a spouse and kids who aren't contributing to the tax base how do we fund services ?
Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
Did you watch a different PMQs?
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftie
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed lefties
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
This site is very much to the right.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.
10% Labour? I think that's low-balling it a bit just a touch.
To be blunt the answer to this is yes. If migrant workers coming to this country are to have free access to the NHS, which they should have, they need to pay the equivalent of an insurance premium up front. Why on earth shouldn't they?
Don't they already pay taxes - which last time I looked is how we fund the NHS. People of working age barely use the NHS compared to the retired, anyway, and so from an actuarially fair POV they're probably overpaying already. This whole thing is a non-issue dreamt up by the Tories so that (a) they can persuade gullible voters to believe the NHS is falling apart because of forinners and not because they are underfunding it, and (b) they can establish the idea of some people having to pay for NHS services as a bridgehead for further erosion of the principle that it is free at the point of use.
How many countries do you think you can turn up in as a non resident and get free medical care? Have you never bought travel insurance? This seems to me a much more realistic and fair way of sharing the cost of treatment of migrants than issuing big bills after they have had that broken arm set.
Most countries don't provide free decent quality healthcare to their own citizens either. And I don't pay income tax when I go somewhere on holiday. If I live in the UK for years on end and pay income tax, I think I should get the same basic public services as other people, such as schools and healthcare, as everyone else. It would be different if healthcare were funded on an insurance or contributory basis for locals too.
Citizenship, citizenship, citizenship. The key organising principle around which the nation state is built. It can't just be wished away, no matter how much some people - including Starmer - may desire it.
Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
Did you watch a different PMQs?
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftie
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed lefties
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
This site is very much to the right.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.
But 80% of the posts are lefty Tweets from Scott, so that balances it out
Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
Did you watch a different PMQs?
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftie
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed lefties
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
This site is very much to the right.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.
10% Labour? I think that's low-balling it a bit just a touch.
I would say 10% is pretty accurate. I only knew a few pro-Labour posters.
Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
Did you watch a different PMQs?
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftie
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed lefties
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
This site is very much to the right.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.
I very very much doubt that.
This site is probably closely aligned to the nation. I'd imagine roughly half the posters here voted Tory just like the nation as a whole.
Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
Did you watch a different PMQs?
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftie
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed lefties
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
I was pretty close to that. Increasingly negative on May, really thought she should have gone in 2017. Warmish towards Boris, if not quite as fulsome as you.
Nobody’s saying it - but imagine the big scary thought that COVID emulates Spanish flu. That it comes back in a more dangerous (to the generally young and healthy) form in the autumn except for those who have had it in the first wave. And we’ve all missed the opportunity to get the “harmless” form thanks to the lockdowns.
Except for the Swedes. Who escaped the worst of the Spanish flu in 1918 because... they all got it in the first wave.
Nobody’s saying it - but imagine the big scary thought that COVID emulates Spanish flu. That it comes back in a more dangerous (to the generally young and healthy) form in the autumn except for those who have had it in the first wave. And we’ve all missed the opportunity to get the “harmless” form thanks to the lockdowns.
Except for the Swedes. Who escaped the worst of the Spanish flu in 1918 because... they all got it in the first wave.
the second wave of Spanish flu was more deadly than the first
Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
Did you watch a different PMQs?
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftie
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed lefties
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
This site is very much to the right.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.
But 80% of the posts are lefty Tweets from Scott, so that balances it out
Scott does his best, he is one of the few leftie posters I can think of.
Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
Did you watch a different PMQs?
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftie
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed lefties
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
I was pretty close to that. Increasingly negative on May, really thought she should have gone in 2017. Warmish towards Boris, if not quite as fulsome as you.
I stand corrected. You're one of the posters I agree with the most so perhaps that shouldn't surprise me.
To be blunt the answer to this is yes. If migrant workers coming to this country are to have free access to the NHS, which they should have, they need to pay the equivalent of an insurance premium up front. Why on earth shouldn't they?
Don't they already pay taxes - which last time I looked is how we fund the NHS. People of working age barely use the NHS compared to the retired, anyway, and so from an actuarially fair POV they're probably overpaying already. This whole thing is a non-issue dreamt up by the Tories so that (a) they can persuade gullible voters to believe the NHS is falling apart because of forinners and not because they are underfunding it, and (b) they can establish the idea of some people having to pay for NHS services as a bridgehead for further erosion of the principle that it is free at the point of use.
How many countries do you think you can turn up in as a non resident and get free medical care? Have you never bought travel insurance? This seems to me a much more realistic and fair way of sharing the cost of treatment of migrants than issuing big bills after they have had that broken arm set.
Most countries don't provide free decent quality healthcare to their own citizens either. And I don't pay income tax when I go somewhere on holiday. If I live in the UK for years on end and pay income tax, I think I should get the same basic public services as other people, such as schools and healthcare, as everyone else. It would be different if healthcare were funded on an insurance or contributory basis for locals too.
Clearly if someone becomes a part of our community by seeking citizenship or a permanent right to remain that is a different scenario.
Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
Did you watch a different PMQs?
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
He has raised his game, just not by enough.
Speaker telling off Hancock was bloody scary.
Hancock was visibly uneasy as that tweet pointed out probably because he remembered he had left the iron on, not because he heard untruth after untruth uttered by the PM.
I have no doubt that the speaker upbraided him for trying to tell Johnson to STFU.
As for Boris, he reeled out the tractor stats well enough but Starmer kept, cleverly imo, pointing out that Johnson had not understood him. In sympathy not anger. That will be what does for Johnson if anything does - the more in sorrow than anger realisation that he simply is not 100%.
And whether you love (HYUFD) or loathe (me) him, he is only just back from death's door so it is hardly surprising.
Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
Did you watch a different PMQs?
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftie
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed lefties
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
This site is very much to the right.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.
But 80% of the posts are lefty Tweets from Scott, so that balances it out
Scott does his best, he is one of the few leftie posters I can think of.
To be blunt the answer to this is yes. If migrant workers coming to this country are to have free access to the NHS, which they should have, they need to pay the equivalent of an insurance premium up front. Why on earth shouldn't they?
Don't they already pay taxes - which last time I looked is how we fund the NHS. People of working age barely use the NHS compared to the retired, anyway, and so from an actuarially fair POV they're probably overpaying already. This whole thing is a non-issue dreamt up by the Tories so that (a) they can persuade gullible voters to believe the NHS is falling apart because of forinners and not because they are underfunding it, and (b) they can establish the idea of some people having to pay for NHS services as a bridgehead for further erosion of the principle that it is free at the point of use.
How many countries do you think you can turn up in as a non resident and get free medical care? Have you never bought travel insurance? This seems to me a much more realistic and fair way of sharing the cost of treatment of migrants than issuing big bills after they have had that broken arm set.
Most countries don't provide free decent quality healthcare to their own citizens either. And I don't pay income tax when I go somewhere on holiday. If I live in the UK for years on end and pay income tax, I think I should get the same basic public services as other people, such as schools and healthcare, as everyone else. It would be different if healthcare were funded on an insurance or contributory basis for locals too.
Clearly if someone becomes a part of our community by seeking citizenship or a permanent right to remain that is a different scenario.
Of course. Anyone who becomes a UK citizen doesn't need to pay this surcharge.
It's very easy once more to see people wanting to throw money at everything and on an ongoing basis rather than come up with a solution. This surcharge raises nearly a billion pounds per year for the NHS ... should that be taken out of the NHS budget if this charge is dropped?
Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
Did you watch a different PMQs?
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftie
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed lefties
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
This site is very much to the right.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.
But 80% of the posts are lefty Tweets from Scott, so that balances it out
Scott does his best, he is one of the few leftie posters I can think of.
Erm, isn't Scott an anti-Boris Tory?
I stand corrected. Even less lefties than I thought then.
Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
Did you watch a different PMQs?
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftie
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed lefties
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
This site is very much to the right.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.
But 80% of the posts are lefty Tweets from Scott, so that balances it out
Scott does his best, he is one of the few leftie posters I can think of.
So we don't even get to reduce any pension fund deficits because the wrong type of pensioner is dying? Jeez.
Sorry about that.
I always thought I might go into a career after my retirement as an executive hitman, dealing with those particularly awkward individuals that blight organisations. Wealthy pensioners and serial complainers to HR would be obvious work generators.
In the end, I decided that the hours would probably be too unsocial.
Go for it, you could get Phoebe Waller-Bridge to write a worldwide hit drama base on your activities. Slaying Senior or somesuch.
Yes I can see it.
Alastair in a variety of quirky outfits in relentless pursuit of one particularly elusive target 'moaning wealthy pensioner' called Stephen something or other.
Only problem is I'm stuck for a title.
AM's previous moniker was more enigmatic -
Antifrank
In a trendy retro typeface over swooping shots of the English Riviera with some obscure 60s girl band jangling in the background.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.
We welcome lefties. The more the merrier. Some of them, however, get very frustrated with the perceived right wing nature of the site (as people have pointed out, I don't think it especially is) and then go off on one and get banned or bored.
Nobody’s saying it - but imagine the big scary thought that COVID emulates Spanish flu. That it comes back in a more dangerous (to the generally young and healthy) form in the autumn except for those who have had it in the first wave. And we’ve all missed the opportunity to get the “harmless” form thanks to the lockdowns.
Except for the Swedes. Who escaped the worst of the Spanish flu in 1918 because... they all got it in the first wave.
the second wave of Spanish flu was more deadly than the first
Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
Did you watch a different PMQs?
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftie
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed lefties
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
This site is very much to the right.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.
It does mean we stand out a bit more. For a PB Tory that is more difficult. They have to be unusually woke (like @TOPPING) or else they have to go to the other extreme and take quite ridiculously neanderthal positions like - well, no names no packdrill - or failing this they have to somehow manage to be Tory supporting and yet thoughtful and intelligent, which is no easy feat but is just about possible on a good day with a following wind.
Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
Did you watch a different PMQs?
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftie
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed lefties
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
This site is very much to the right.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.
But 80% of the posts are lefty Tweets from Scott, so that balances it out
Scott does his best, he is one of the few leftie posters I can think of.
Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
Did you watch a different PMQs?
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftie
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed lefties
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
This site is very much to the right.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.
But 80% of the posts are lefty Tweets from Scott, so that balances it out
Scott does his best, he is one of the few leftie posters I can think of.
Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
Did you watch a different PMQs?
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftie
We're still waiting for that magic 38-40 moment...
Well there's a new YouGov. Labour are up to 33% and the Tory lead with YouGov is down to 15%. It was 20% last time and 24% in the last YouGov prior to Starmer being elected.
Johnson "Best PM" lead down from 24% to 12% in the course of a fortnight.
Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
Did you watch a different PMQs?
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftie
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed lefties
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
This site is very much to the right.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.
But 80% of the posts are lefty Tweets from Scott, so that balances it out
Scott does his best, he is one of the few leftie posters I can think of.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.
We welcome lefties. The more the merrier. Some of them, however, get very frustrated with the perceived right wing nature of the site (as people have pointed out, I don't think it especially is) and then go off on one and get banned or bored.
Next you will be telling me Attila the Hun was a peace loving guy
Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
Did you watch a different PMQs?
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftie
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed lefties
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
This site is very much to the right.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.
But 80% of the posts are lefty Tweets from Scott, so that balances it out
Scott does his best, he is one of the few leftie posters I can think of.
He is/was a Tory.
Really proves my point then, there are very few leftie posters here.
Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
Did you watch a different PMQs?
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftie
We're still waiting for that magic 38-40 moment...
Well there's a new YouGov. Labour are up to 33% and the Tory lead with YouGov is down to 15%. It was 20% last time and 24% in the last YouGov prior to Starmer being elected.
Johnson "Best PM" lead down from 24% to 12% in the course of a fortnight.
Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
Did you watch a different PMQs?
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftie
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed lefties
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
This site is very much to the right.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.
But 80% of the posts are lefty Tweets from Scott, so that balances it out
Scott does his best, he is one of the few leftie posters I can think of.
Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
Did you watch a different PMQs?
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftie
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed lefties
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
This site is very much to the right.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.
But 80% of the posts are lefty Tweets from Scott, so that balances it out
Scott does his best, he is one of the few leftie posters I can think of.
He is/was a Tory.
Really proves my point then, there are very few leftie posters here.
Proving your point would be doing a survey/census. While they are in the minority, I don't think it's 10%.
Genuinely think Johnson might be worse than May at PMQs. Who said he was a good orator, he can hardly speak clearly.
I've never heard anyone say Johnson is a good orator, but he is undeniably gifted in handling an audience. His main problem with PMQs at the moment is the lack of an audience.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.
We welcome lefties. The more the merrier. Some of them, however, get very frustrated with the perceived right wing nature of the site (as people have pointed out, I don't think it especially is) and then go off on one and get banned or bored.
I don't believe I have "gone off on one", I was just making an observation.
For me, I much prefer this site compared to others that just confirm my views.
Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
Did you watch a different PMQs?
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftie
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed lefties
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
This site is very much to the right.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.
But 80% of the posts are lefty Tweets from Scott, so that balances it out
Scott does his best, he is one of the few leftie posters I can think of.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.
We welcome lefties. The more the merrier. Some of them, however, get very frustrated with the perceived right wing nature of the site (as people have pointed out, I don't think it especially is) and then go off on one and get banned or bored.
Next you will be telling me Attila the Hun was a peace loving guy
Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
Did you watch a different PMQs?
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftie
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed lefties
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
This site is very much to the right.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.
But 80% of the posts are lefty Tweets from Scott, so that balances it out
Scott does his best, he is one of the few leftie posters I can think of.
He is/was a Tory.
Really proves my point then, there are very few leftie posters here.
Proving your point would be doing a survey/census. While they are in the minority, I don't think it's 10%.
I think it's 10%.
@MikeSmithson can we do a poll of voter intention on this site? Would be genuinely curious.
Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
Did you watch a different PMQs?
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftie
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed lefties
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
This site is very much to the right.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.
But 80% of the posts are lefty Tweets from Scott, so that balances it out
Scott does his best, he is one of the few leftie posters I can think of.
Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
Did you watch a different PMQs?
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftie
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed lefties
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
This site is very much to the right.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.
But 80% of the posts are lefty Tweets from Scott, so that balances it out
Scott does his best, he is one of the few leftie posters I can think of.
He is/was a Tory.
Really proves my point then, there are very few leftie posters here.
Proving your point would be doing a survey/census. While they are in the minority, I don't think it's 10%.
I think it's 10%.
@MikeSmithson can we do a poll of voter intention on this site? Would be genuinely curious.
The old proposal to make all the PB Tories wear a badge (mainly to be refused treatment on the NHS) didn't go down so well.
Britain’s Jewish community, which comprises around 0.5 per cent of the population - just 264,000 people - has suffered a high death toll. Figures from the Board of Deputies of British Jews say that 458 Jews have lost their lives to the virus since the pandemic began.
Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
Did you watch a different PMQs?
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftie
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed lefties
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
This site is very much to the right.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.
But 80% of the posts are lefty Tweets from Scott, so that balances it out
Scott does his best, he is one of the few leftie posters I can think of.
Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
Did you watch a different PMQs?
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftie
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed lefties
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
I was pretty close to that. Increasingly negative on May, really thought she should have gone in 2017. Warmish towards Boris, if not quite as fulsome as you.
I stand corrected. You're one of the posters I agree with the most so perhaps that shouldn't surprise me.
You actually agree with me a lot, I sense. No surprise because we are both social liberals and like to look forwards and embrace the future rather than cling to old, outdated shibboleths.
Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
Did you watch a different PMQs?
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftie
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed lefties
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
This site is very much to the right.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.
But 80% of the posts are lefty Tweets from Scott, so that balances it out
Scott does his best, he is one of the few leftie posters I can think of.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.
We welcome lefties. The more the merrier. Some of them, however, get very frustrated with the perceived right wing nature of the site (as people have pointed out, I don't think it especially is) and then go off on one and get banned or bored.
I don't believe I have "gone off on one", I was just making an observation.
For me, I much prefer this site compared to others that just confirm my views.
I don't think you have gone off on one either. I'm just saying one reason I've observed for some lefties to have, er, left.
I hope you and all the other ones stay as long as you wish.
Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
Did you watch a different PMQs?
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftie
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed lefties
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
This site is very much to the right.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.
10% Labour? I think that's low-balling it a bit just a touch.
I would say 10% is pretty accurate. I only knew a few pro-Labour posters.
I agree , there is not many Labour posters on here .Probably more Lib dems than Labour. The comments are totally dominated by conservatives. One example is Phillip Thompson who seems a decent bloke, who seems to be on here constantly.
Dreadful performance by Johnson. The bluster worked against Corbyn but Starmer is so pin point precise Johnson looks exposed.
Did you watch a different PMQs?
The PB Tory brigade have assured us that Johnson bestrode the Commons stage like a Swiftian Gulliver clearing all before him whilst some faded grey bloke mumbled questions that everyone ignored...
Obviously I'm just a brainwashed leftie
Don't let that put you off. We welcome all sorts here, even brainwashed lefties
I feel it my responsibility to try and add some balance to what is a very pro-Tory site. Nothing wrong with that but that is evidently the case.
I don't think it evidently is. There's all sorts here - lefties, nationalists, even an LD host.
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
This site is very much to the right.
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.
But 80% of the posts are lefty Tweets from Scott, so that balances it out
Scott does his best, he is one of the few leftie posters I can think of.
Comments
Speaker telling off Hancock was bloody scary.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/spotify-strikes-exclusive-podcast-deal-with-joe-rogan-11589913814
Of course if a company wants migrant workers to come it may have to pay this NHS surcharge themselves. Or train some of the indigenous population. In some circumstances we may want to waive it because it is very much in our interests that the come. Doctors coming to work in the NHS may be such an example. But they simply don't have the same rights as the rest of us unless we choose to give them to them in our own interests.
The angry centrist cult will do more damage to Labour's chances of being an electable proposition than their leader ever will.
As for the Tories they're very split too. I think I may be the only poster here who was unabashedly both anti May and pro Boris. A lot of Tories here were the other way around.
#hero
I know a lot of people like it but those are huge numbers. Good for him.
Only lawyers and hookers have clients...
It's like 80% right wing posters, 20% others. Maybe 10% or less are Labour.
Again...nothing wrong with that.
Alastair in a variety of quirky outfits in relentless pursuit of one particularly elusive target 'moaning wealthy pensioner' called Stephen something or other.
Only problem is I'm stuck for a title.
But what do we do about non tax paying immigrants. It'd take a brave man to stand up and argue that a British housespouse shouldn't have access to the NHS because s/he's not paid any tax for the year; but if someone immigrating here has a spouse and kids who aren't contributing to the tax base how do we fund services ?
This site is probably closely aligned to the nation. I'd imagine roughly half the posters here voted Tory just like the nation as a whole.
Except for the Swedes. Who escaped the worst of the Spanish flu in 1918 because... they all got it in the first wave.
Wearing masks is being made compulsory in Spain both indoors and out in public if social distancing is not possible.
Only children under six and people with health issues are exempt from the law, which comes into force on Thursday.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52735166
I have no doubt that the speaker upbraided him for trying to tell Johnson to STFU.
As for Boris, he reeled out the tractor stats well enough but Starmer kept, cleverly imo, pointing out that Johnson had not understood him. In sympathy not anger. That will be what does for Johnson if anything does - the more in sorrow than anger realisation that he simply is not 100%.
And whether you love (HYUFD) or loathe (me) him, he is only just back from death's door so it is hardly surprising.
It's very easy once more to see people wanting to throw money at everything and on an ongoing basis rather than come up with a solution. This surcharge raises nearly a billion pounds per year for the NHS ... should that be taken out of the NHS budget if this charge is dropped?
Like TSE and more.
Antifrank
In a trendy retro typeface over swooping shots of the English Riviera with some obscure 60s girl band jangling in the background.
It's a start.
Huh, but the Tories here insisted it was clear
Johnson "Best PM" lead down from 24% to 12% in the course of a fortnight.
https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/246il6g7ik/TheTimes_VI_Trackers_200519_W.pdf
I don't come here to talk about betting!
For me, I much prefer this site compared to others that just confirm my views.
@MikeSmithson can we do a poll of voter intention on this site? Would be genuinely curious.
When you post it's like you just discovered the emoji button on your keyboard.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-52731506/losing-a-beacon-of-light-of-the-uk-s-ultra-orthodox-community-to-coronavirus
I hope you and all the other ones stay as long as you wish.
The comments are totally dominated by conservatives.
One example is Phillip Thompson who seems a decent bloke, who seems to be on here constantly.