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Although there has been no big breakthrough for LAB since double election loser Corbyn was replaced by Starmer a positive is that the party is now out of the 20s and the CON share is edging down.
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Rifkind and Steel rule out a Con/Lib Dem coalition, it would never have worked anyway.
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Its remarkable how normal and how taken for granted the Tories getting 50% in the polls is now. The polls are comparable to those in 1998, but after a decade of the blues being in Downing Street..3
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Change in the polls, when it comes, will be sudden and dramatic I suspect. Some way off I should think. As Philip notes the Tories being so strong in the polls should be very unusual, yet that was the case pre rallying effect.
A very pertinent question which I hope there is a good answer to, as the decisions on that subject do look odd without such an explanation.eadric said:This is so desperately poor. Why now, and not in Feb or even March?
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HMG didn't hang around implementing that did they. Oh...Big_G_NorthWales said:Times
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Off topoc. But what is it about garden centres? I can't honestly ever recall having been to onr. Allowing them to open isnt gping to materially affect my situation.
Other than the most avid gardener I can't imagine too many others either.0 -
Also: "...from the end of May" WTAF!?eadric said:
How the F was this not done in February or March?Big_G_NorthWales said:Times
All flights passengers to be quarantined for 14 days including returning UK citizens
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Yet again Mike has to spin a 17-23% lead as being only ok for the Conservatives if not just bad. Please cut the bias. Starmer had nowhere to go but up and hasn't had a breakthrough. He has a very safe and boring leadership election campaign which was a missed opportunity (Blair made this point). He may ask good question, if being a bit partisan in PMQs but it takes more than that.4
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We shall see. You lamented long and hard that a failure to lockdown sooner and harder was a shameful failure, yet now you're talking of it having done more harm than good. The gov will need to explain its decisions - and curious that I don't recall the opposition making a big show on the failure to do this before now despite it being out of step with many places - and who knows you might well change your tune.eadric said:
How the F was this not done in February or March?Big_G_NorthWales said:Times
All flights passengers to be quarantined for 14 days including returning UK citizens
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2024 is a bloody long time away and could be an entirely different political era.
I see no value in betting on the next election at present.0 -
Given the Tories have not won 50% of the vote since WW2, if them polling 50% or more still is a worry for them I hate to think what real problems would be1
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Philip_Thompson said:
Its remarkable how normal and how taken for granted the Tories getting 50% in the polls is now. The polls are comparable to those in 1998, but after a decade of the blues being in Downing Street..
Enjoy it while you can... it's not going to last.
This time last year the Tories hit 19%; 50% today means nothing with no GE on the horizon.0 -
Sounds a bit like they didn't think there was a point in bringing it in earlier because the virus was already widespread so it'd make no difference once everywhere was locked down internally anyway, but once we are easing out of lockdown it would make a difference and we can bring in the measures ahead of, and to hopefully prevent, a second wave. But I've no idea if that is the reasoning or even if it makes sense, but the delay in bringing it in until June makes me think that way.Benpointer said:
Also: "...from the end of May" WTAF!?eadric said:
How the F was this not done in February or March?Big_G_NorthWales said:Times
All flights passengers to be quarantined for 14 days including returning UK citizens
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Pretty sure he wouldn't think it is going to last, but equally many would have said it wouldn't have happened at all and it has.Benpointer said:Philip_Thompson said:Its remarkable how normal and how taken for granted the Tories getting 50% in the polls is now. The polls are comparable to those in 1998, but after a decade of the blues being in Downing Street..
Enjoy it while you can... it's not going to last.
This time last year the Tories hit 19%; 50% today means nothing with no GE on the horizon.0 -
Had a socially distanced BBQ with my flat, been a good VE Day all in all, finished with the Queen and Vera Lynn0
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Partisan? He is Leader of the Opposition. It would be dereliction of duty if he wasn't.mike9978h said:Yet again Mike has to spin a 17-23% lead as being only ok for the Conservatives if not just bad. Please cut the bias. Starmer had nowhere to go but up and hasn't had a breakthrough. He has a very safe and boring leadership election campaign which was a missed opportunity (Blair made this point). He may ask good question, if being a bit partisan in PMQs but it takes more than that.
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Seems a bit unfair, when even people who have the disease can go out after 7 days ...Big_G_NorthWales said:Times
All flights passengers to be quarantined for 14 days including returning UK citizens1 -
Can we have pubs, 1 June please? With social distancing of courseHYUFD said:2 -
FPT @Gallowgate
It’s open but my friend who lives in Malmo and works in Copenhagen has to bring a passport and his job contract to pass over each dayGallowgate said:
Do you know if the bridge between Malmo and Copenhagen is closed?Alistair said:Interesting in Sweden that Malmo is still basically covid free.
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Agree it's hardly a seismic shift but I suspect the majority of the population do visit garden centres, especially this time of year. They are not just for 'avid gardners'.dixiedean said:Off topoc. But what is it about garden centres? I can't honestly ever recall having been to onr. Allowing them to open isnt gping to materially affect my situation.
Other than the most avid gardener I can't imagine too many others either.
Also worth noting most garden centres do a lot of non-garden retailing these days.0 -
Indeed. Given that it was 5 years yesterday since Cameron won a majority, you would imagine folk may be somewhat loath to envision 4 years into the future. What with a pandemic, global recession and all.Casino_Royale said:2024 is a bloody long time away and could be an entirely different political era.
I see no value in betting on the next election at present.0 -
Or. They don't know what they're doing. There is always that to consider.kle4 said:
Sounds a bit like they didn't think there was a point in bringing it in earlier because the virus was already widespread so it'd make no difference once everywhere was locked down internally anyway, but once we are easing out of lockdown it would make a difference and we can bring in the measures ahead of, and to hopefully prevent, a second wave. But I've no idea if that is the reasoning or even if it makes sense, but the delay in bringing it in until June makes me think that way.Benpointer said:
Also: "...from the end of May" WTAF!?eadric said:
How the F was this not done in February or March?Big_G_NorthWales said:Times
All flights passengers to be quarantined for 14 days including returning UK citizens
A shameful failure0 -
Seems that is the advicekle4 said:
Sounds a bit like they didn't think there was a point in bringing it in earlier because the virus was already widespread so it'd make no difference once everywhere was locked down internally anyway, but once we are easing out of lockdown it would make a difference and we can bring in the measures ahead of, and to hopefully prevent, a second wave. But I've no idea if that is the reasoning or even if it makes sense, but the delay in bringing it in until June makes me think that way.Benpointer said:
Also: "...from the end of May" WTAF!?eadric said:
How the F was this not done in February or March?Big_G_NorthWales said:Times
All flights passengers to be quarantined for 14 days including returning UK citizens
A shameful failure0 -
You invited your flat to a BBQ?HYUFD said:Had a socially distanced BBQ with my flat, been a good VE Day all in all, finished with the Queen and Vera Lynn
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And ends holidays abroad for as long as it is in forceChris said:
Seems a bit unfair, when even people who have the disease can go out after 7 days ...Big_G_NorthWales said:Times
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And flights to USA August? Ok we will wait until next year for that!Benpointer said:0 -
Consider my spirit unlifted.HYUFD said:0 -
Seriously if Boris doesn't come out with a sensible programme on Sunday I am going Starmer 😈0
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Yes and No! At an objective level 2024 is a long way off - but if Polling Day is to be May that year, we are almost as close to it as to the 2016 Referendum!Casino_Royale said:2024 is a bloody long time away and could be an entirely different political era.
I see no value in betting on the next election at present.0 -
Lol, we should be on the QM2 heading for NY this week.Ave_it said:
And flights to USA August? Ok we will wait until next year for that!Benpointer said:
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Yep. We have a very volatile electorate now.Benpointer said:Philip_Thompson said:Its remarkable how normal and how taken for granted the Tories getting 50% in the polls is now. The polls are comparable to those in 1998, but after a decade of the blues being in Downing Street..
Enjoy it while you can... it's not going to last.
This time last year the Tories hit 19%; 50% today means nothing with no GE on the horizon.0 -
Presumably that will mean a change to the regulations about purposes for which we're allowed to leave the house. Will there be an extra item "to visit a garden centre" or will garden centres be classified as "critical public services"?HYUFD said:1 -
Big_G_NorthWales said:
And ends holidays abroad for as long as it is in forceChris said:
Seems a bit unfair, when even people who have the disease can go out after 7 days ...Big_G_NorthWales said:Times
All flights passengers to be quarantined for 14 days including returning UK citizens
Unless you go by car, train, ferry or, dare I say it, cruise ship!
(Ok that last one is not going to be an option anytime soon)0 -
We should be flying to our sons in Vancouver next tuesdayBenpointer said:
Lol, we should be on the QM2 heading for NY this week.Ave_it said:
And flights to USA August? Ok we will wait until next year for that!Benpointer said:0 -
He wants a longer lockdownAve_it said:Seriously if Boris doesn't come out with a sensible programme on Sunday I am going Starmer 😈
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The flat was the only invitee that turned upMexicanpete said:
You invited your flat to a BBQ?HYUFD said:Had a socially distanced BBQ with my flat, been a good VE Day all in all, finished with the Queen and Vera Lynn
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I think it applies across the board but could be wrongBenpointer said:Big_G_NorthWales said:
And ends holidays abroad for as long as it is in forceChris said:
Seems a bit unfair, when even people who have the disease can go out after 7 days ...Big_G_NorthWales said:Times
All flights passengers to be quarantined for 14 days including returning UK citizens
Unless you go by car, train, ferry or, dare I say it, cruise ship!
(Ok that last one is not going to be an opion anytime soon)0 -
Steel - and Kennedy - ought to have been much more vocal in seeking to block formation of the Coaltion.If 12 LD MPs had openly declared that they felt unable to support such a government,it would not have come to pass.HYUFD said:
Steel also said the LDs would not back a tax cut for the rich, before Clegg backed a cut in the top rate of income tax to 45%dodrade said:Rifkind and Steel rule out a Con/Lib Dem coalition, it would never have worked anyway.
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Goint to the dark side Ave It ???🤣🤣🤣Ave_it said:Seriously if Boris doesn't come out with a sensible programme on Sunday I am going Starmer 😈
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Oh. I didn't know that. But then I've never been to one....what kinds of stuff do they sell? Am I in some weird minority in my total ignorance?Benpointer said:
Agree it's hardly a seismic shift but I suspect the majority of the population do visit garden centres, especially this time of year. They are not just for 'avid gardners'.dixiedean said:Off topoc. But what is it about garden centres? I can't honestly ever recall having been to onr. Allowing them to open isnt gping to materially affect my situation.
Other than the most avid gardener I can't imagine too many others either.
Also worth noting most garden centres do a lot of non-garden retailing these days.0 -
Maybe that is was what Ave_it was alluding to.Big_G_NorthWales said:
He wants a longer lockdownAve_it said:Seriously if Boris doesn't come out with a sensible programme on Sunday I am going Starmer 😈
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I should be in The Hague tonightBenpointer said:
Lol, we should be on the QM2 heading for NY this week.Ave_it said:
And flights to USA August? Ok we will wait until next year for that!Benpointer said:0 -
MaybeMexicanpete said:
Maybe that is was what Ave_it was alluding to.Big_G_NorthWales said:
He wants a longer lockdownAve_it said:Seriously if Boris doesn't come out with a sensible programme on Sunday I am going Starmer 😈
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He has probably lived there too long already.squareroot2 said:
Goint to the dark side Ave It ???🤣🤣🤣Ave_it said:Seriously if Boris doesn't come out with a sensible programme on Sunday I am going Starmer 😈
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You're probably right Big_G.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I think it applies across the board but could be wrongBenpointer said:Big_G_NorthWales said:
And ends holidays abroad for as long as it is in forceChris said:
Seems a bit unfair, when even people who have the disease can go out after 7 days ...Big_G_NorthWales said:Times
All flights passengers to be quarantined for 14 days including returning UK citizens
Unless you go by car, train, ferry or, dare I say it, cruise ship!
(Ok that last one is not going to be an opion anytime soon)
Mrs P and were speculating on the possibility of a 99 day cruise where, instead of going round the world, you just visit 7 ports... but have to do 14 days quarantine in each port. We were on our 2nd or third bottle by then mind.0 -
It's to include an incubation period. If you are in contact with a household member with the virus, you should self-isolate for 14 days, not 7. 7 is from the onset of symptoms.Chris said:
Seems a bit unfair, when even people who have the disease can go out after 7 days ...Big_G_NorthWales said:Times
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Yes I fancy a new party.squareroot2 said:
Goint to the dark side Ave It ???🤣🤣🤣Ave_it said:Seriously if Boris doesn't come out with a sensible programme on Sunday I am going Starmer 😈
Or maybe LD under Layla 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊0 -
I don't call having the Queen and Vera Lynn around to your flat for a barbecue, social distancing! Shame on you, both are in a high risk group.HYUFD said:Had a socially distanced BBQ with my flat, been a good VE Day all in all, finished with the Queen and Vera Lynn
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It's particluarly galling as we have never sailed out of Southampton in nice weather. If we'd departed on Wednesday as planned we'd have had a beautiful few days heading out to the Atlantic.JohnLilburne said:
I should be in The Hague tonightBenpointer said:
Lol, we should be on the QM2 heading for NY this week.Ave_it said:
And flights to USA August? Ok we will wait until next year for that!Benpointer said:
On the other hand, in compensation we've had a beautiful few days at home in rural Dorset. We count our blessings.0 -
No, I've never been to one. We have a gardener for that sort of thing.dixiedean said:
Oh. I didn't know that. But then I've never been to one....what kinds of stuff do they sell? Am I in some weird minority in my total ignorance?Benpointer said:
Agree it's hardly a seismic shift but I suspect the majority of the population do visit garden centres, especially this time of year. They are not just for 'avid gardners'.dixiedean said:Off topoc. But what is it about garden centres? I can't honestly ever recall having been to onr. Allowing them to open isnt gping to materially affect my situation.
Other than the most avid gardener I can't imagine too many others either.
Also worth noting most garden centres do a lot of non-garden retailing these days.0 -
I want freedom! Let's get out there!Big_G_NorthWales said:
MaybeMexicanpete said:
Maybe that is was what Ave_it was alluding to.Big_G_NorthWales said:
He wants a longer lockdownAve_it said:Seriously if Boris doesn't come out with a sensible programme on Sunday I am going Starmer 😈
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He brought his favourite opinion poll to a Covid-19 fight.Mexicanpete said:
You invited your flat to a BBQ?HYUFD said:Had a socially distanced BBQ with my flat, been a good VE Day all in all, finished with the Queen and Vera Lynn
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Water features, compost , potted plants , gnomes - you know the crack cocaine of middle Englanddixiedean said:
Oh. I didn't know that. But then I've never been to one....what kinds of stuff do they sell? Am I in some weird minority in my total ignorance?Benpointer said:
Agree it's hardly a seismic shift but I suspect the majority of the population do visit garden centres, especially this time of year. They are not just for 'avid gardners'.dixiedean said:Off topoc. But what is it about garden centres? I can't honestly ever recall having been to onr. Allowing them to open isnt gping to materially affect my situation.
Other than the most avid gardener I can't imagine too many others either.
Also worth noting most garden centres do a lot of non-garden retailing these days.1 -
Worse Eric Clapton cover ever.Ave_it said:
Yes I fancy a new party.squareroot2 said:
Goint to the dark side Ave It ???🤣🤣🤣Ave_it said:Seriously if Boris doesn't come out with a sensible programme on Sunday I am going Starmer 😈
Or maybe LD under Layla 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊0 -
Yes it's perfectly sensible to let people out after 7 days of course.JohnLilburne said:
It's to include an incubation period. If you are in contact with a household member with the virus, you should self-isolate for 14 days, not 7. 7 is from the onset of symptoms.Chris said:
Seems a bit unfair, when even people who have the disease can go out after 7 days ...Big_G_NorthWales said:Times
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We have to keep our humour to be fairBenpointer said:
You're probably right Big_G.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I think it applies across the board but could be wrongBenpointer said:Big_G_NorthWales said:
And ends holidays abroad for as long as it is in forceChris said:
Seems a bit unfair, when even people who have the disease can go out after 7 days ...Big_G_NorthWales said:Times
All flights passengers to be quarantined for 14 days including returning UK citizens
Unless you go by car, train, ferry or, dare I say it, cruise ship!
(Ok that last one is not going to be an opion anytime soon)
Mrs P and were speculating on the possibility of a 99 day cruise where, instead of going round the world, you just visit 7 ports... but have to do 14 days quarantine in each port. We were on our 2nd or third bottle by then mind.0 -
No I was invited to itMexicanpete said:
You invited your flat to a BBQ?HYUFD said:Had a socially distanced BBQ with my flat, been a good VE Day all in all, finished with the Queen and Vera Lynn
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Clothes, food, books, cards, homeware, toys, lots of cheap old junk that plenty of people seem compelled to buy... Oh, and some plants and compost too.dixiedean said:
Oh. I didn't know that. But then I've never been to one....what kinds of stuff do they sell? Am I in some weird minority in my total ignorance?Benpointer said:
Agree it's hardly a seismic shift but I suspect the majority of the population do visit garden centres, especially this time of year. They are not just for 'avid gardners'.dixiedean said:Off topoc. But what is it about garden centres? I can't honestly ever recall having been to onr. Allowing them to open isnt gping to materially affect my situation.
Other than the most avid gardener I can't imagine too many others either.
Also worth noting most garden centres do a lot of non-garden retailing these days.
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There was not the mandate for them to support Labour either, given the Tories were by far the largest party on votes and seats a Tory LD deal whether confidence or supply was the only option available to themjustin124 said:
Steel - and Kennedy - ought to have been much more vocal in seeking to block formation of the Coaltion.If 12 LD MPs had openly declared that they felt unable to support such a government,it would not have come to pass.HYUFD said:
Steel also said the LDs would not back a tax cut for the rich, before Clegg backed a cut in the top rate of income tax to 45%dodrade said:Rifkind and Steel rule out a Con/Lib Dem coalition, it would never have worked anyway.
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They don't call them Thirtypoundlands for nothingBenpointer said:
Clothes, food, books, cards, homeware, toys, lots of cheap old junk that plenty of people seem compelled to buy... Oh, and some plants and compost too.dixiedean said:
Oh. I didn't know that. But then I've never been to one....what kinds of stuff do they sell? Am I in some weird minority in my total ignorance?Benpointer said:
Agree it's hardly a seismic shift but I suspect the majority of the population do visit garden centres, especially this time of year. They are not just for 'avid gardners'.dixiedean said:Off topoc. But what is it about garden centres? I can't honestly ever recall having been to onr. Allowing them to open isnt gping to materially affect my situation.
Other than the most avid gardener I can't imagine too many others either.
Also worth noting most garden centres do a lot of non-garden retailing these days.0 -
Worldometer's Coronavirus cases count has just gone over 4 million I see.
I wonder what the true global number of cases is?0 -
I see that we're still getting policy via the sewage outfall rather than straight from the bumhole.HYUFD said:3 -
Is that programme still on? I bet Con and LD end up forming a coalitionHYUFD said:
There was not the mandate for them to support Labour either, given the Tories were by far the largest party on votes and seats a Tory LD deal whether confidence or supply was the only option available to themjustin124 said:
Steel - and Kennedy - ought to have been much more vocal in seeking to block formation of the Coaltion.If 12 LD MPs had openly declared that they felt unable to support such a government,it would not have come to pass.HYUFD said:
Steel also said the LDs would not back a tax cut for the rich, before Clegg backed a cut in the top rate of income tax to 45%dodrade said:Rifkind and Steel rule out a Con/Lib Dem coalition, it would never have worked anyway.
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Lol! Brilliant!Theuniondivvie said:
I see that we're still getting policy via the sewage outfall rather than straight from the bumhole.HYUFD said:0 -
The Tories only hit 19% as most of their 2017 vote went to the Brexit Party who hit 25%, that will not happen again as Boris has reunited the pro Brexit vote and the right under his banner. Hence his landslide victory last yearBenpointer said:Philip_Thompson said:Its remarkable how normal and how taken for granted the Tories getting 50% in the polls is now. The polls are comparable to those in 1998, but after a decade of the blues being in Downing Street..
Enjoy it while you can... it's not going to last.
This time last year the Tories hit 19%; 50% today means nothing with no GE on the horizon.1 -
It's worse than that.eadric said:
How the F was this not done in February or March?Big_G_NorthWales said:Times
All flights passengers to be quarantined for 14 days including returning UK citizens
A shameful failure
Quarantining starts "at the end of May". So, in three weeks time when the problems are less severe, they'll implement it.
It literally makes no sense.
There must be 10,000 beds around Heathrow in airport hotels, maybe 20,000, and they're all empty.
It's really not complicated to put people there for two weeks.0 -
Yes it is mid morning and Paxman still interviewingAve_it said:
Is that programme still on? I bet Con and LD end up forming a coalitionHYUFD said:
There was not the mandate for them to support Labour either, given the Tories were by far the largest party on votes and seats a Tory LD deal whether confidence or supply was the only option available to themjustin124 said:
Steel - and Kennedy - ought to have been much more vocal in seeking to block formation of the Coaltion.If 12 LD MPs had openly declared that they felt unable to support such a government,it would not have come to pass.HYUFD said:
Steel also said the LDs would not back a tax cut for the rich, before Clegg backed a cut in the top rate of income tax to 45%dodrade said:Rifkind and Steel rule out a Con/Lib Dem coalition, it would never have worked anyway.
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No chance, that would spell catastrophe for the LDs at the next election.Ave_it said:
Is that programme still on? I bet Con and LD end up forming a coalitionHYUFD said:
There was not the mandate for them to support Labour either, given the Tories were by far the largest party on votes and seats a Tory LD deal whether confidence or supply was the only option available to themjustin124 said:
Steel - and Kennedy - ought to have been much more vocal in seeking to block formation of the Coaltion.If 12 LD MPs had openly declared that they felt unable to support such a government,it would not have come to pass.HYUFD said:
Steel also said the LDs would not back a tax cut for the rich, before Clegg backed a cut in the top rate of income tax to 45%dodrade said:Rifkind and Steel rule out a Con/Lib Dem coalition, it would never have worked anyway.
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It means everything if there isn't another Tory voter strike.Benpointer said:Philip_Thompson said:Its remarkable how normal and how taken for granted the Tories getting 50% in the polls is now. The polls are comparable to those in 1998, but after a decade of the blues being in Downing Street..
Enjoy it while you can... it's not going to last.
This time last year the Tories hit 19%; 50% today means nothing with no GE on the horizon.
Any political commentator who thought the Tory vote in a General Election was anywhere near 19% was a pillock. Especially with Corbyn helming Labour.
The run up to the EU elections 2019 was marked by an army of those who would later vote for Boris having a larf. It was an election where you could do that. Nothing was at stake. Vote Brexit Party - and watch the commentariat piss their pants.2 -
Also, why not be a bit smarter and have different countries with different risk tiers:kle4 said:
Sounds a bit like they didn't think there was a point in bringing it in earlier because the virus was already widespread so it'd make no difference once everywhere was locked down internally anyway, but once we are easing out of lockdown it would make a difference and we can bring in the measures ahead of, and to hopefully prevent, a second wave. But I've no idea if that is the reasoning or even if it makes sense, but the delay in bringing it in until June makes me think that way.Benpointer said:
Also: "...from the end of May" WTAF!?eadric said:
How the F was this not done in February or March?Big_G_NorthWales said:Times
All flights passengers to be quarantined for 14 days including returning UK citizens
A shameful failure
- coming from South Korea? Come right in
- coming from the US? Two week quarantine
- coming from Mexico? No you're not1 -
Zzzzz You're confusing me with someone who gives a f*ck.HYUFD said:
The Tories only hit 19% as most of their 2017 vote went to the Brexit Party who hit 25%, that will not happen again as Boris has reunited the pro Brexit vote and the right under his bannerBenpointer said:Philip_Thompson said:Its remarkable how normal and how taken for granted the Tories getting 50% in the polls is now. The polls are comparable to those in 1998, but after a decade of the blues being in Downing Street..
Enjoy it while you can... it's not going to last.
This time last year the Tories hit 19%; 50% today means nothing with no GE on the horizon.
My point is that the polls today say precisely nothing about what they will be at next election.0 -
Cocaine by Michael Gove?Casino_Royale said:
Worse Eric Clapton cover ever.Ave_it said:
Yes I fancy a new party.squareroot2 said:
Goint to the dark side Ave It ???🤣🤣🤣Ave_it said:Seriously if Boris doesn't come out with a sensible programme on Sunday I am going Starmer 😈
Or maybe LD under Layla 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊2 -
At this rate of easing lockdown (garden centres!) we will be with Buck Rodgers in the 25th century before pubs are open. Shall we all have a guess as to what extra treat we will have next week?
My suggestion would be to allow Music shops to open but only if they sell only woodwind and brass instruments - drums can be saved for the following weeks easing.0 -
On that we are one BenBenpointer said:
Zzzzz You're confusing me with someone who gives a f*ck.HYUFD said:
The Tories only hit 19% as most of their 2017 vote went to the Brexit Party who hit 25%, that will not happen again as Boris has reunited the pro Brexit vote and the right under his bannerBenpointer said:Philip_Thompson said:Its remarkable how normal and how taken for granted the Tories getting 50% in the polls is now. The polls are comparable to those in 1998, but after a decade of the blues being in Downing Street..
Enjoy it while you can... it's not going to last.
This time last year the Tories hit 19%; 50% today means nothing with no GE on the horizon.
My point is that the polls today say precisely nothing about what they will be at next election.0 -
Until the prevalence drops here, there is no benefit.rcs1000 said:
It's worse than that.eadric said:
How the F was this not done in February or March?Big_G_NorthWales said:Times
All flights passengers to be quarantined for 14 days including returning UK citizens
A shameful failure
Quarantining starts "at the end of May". So, in three weeks time when the problems are less severe, they'll implement it.
It literally makes no sense.
There must be 10,000 beds around Heathrow in airport hotels, maybe 20,000, and they're all empty.
It's really not complicated to put people there for two weeks.
Haven't you noticed that we are the European hotspot?
Safer in Italy or Spain than London at present!2 -
Haberdashers - so that we can buy the elastic to make masks from old dusters?state_go_away said:At this rate of easing lockdown (garden centres!) we will be with Buck Rodgers in the 25th century before pubs are open. Shall we all have a guess as to what extra treat we will have next week?
My suggestion would be to allow Music shops to open but only if they sell only woodwind and brass instruments - drums can be saved for the following weeks easing.1 -
We have an 80 seat majority, I'm content to enjoy it for the next few years.Benpointer said:Philip_Thompson said:Its remarkable how normal and how taken for granted the Tories getting 50% in the polls is now. The polls are comparable to those in 1998, but after a decade of the blues being in Downing Street..
Enjoy it while you can... it's not going to last.
This time last year the Tories hit 19%; 50% today means nothing with no GE on the horizon.
If we win a fifth consecutive election in 2024 that to be honest will be far more than I ever expected and if not c'est la vie.1 -
Asking people to self isolate isn’t a quarantine. The government isn’t taking charge of those travellers . The headline looks tough but just more spin.
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Ha! I'd not heard that but it is pretty accurate. There's obviously more money in selling expensive tat than plants. Don't forget the obligatory tea shop too, although that will presumably have to remain closed.state_go_away said:
They don't call them Thirtypoundlands for nothingBenpointer said:
Clothes, food, books, cards, homeware, toys, lots of cheap old junk that plenty of people seem compelled to buy... Oh, and some plants and compost too.dixiedean said:
Oh. I didn't know that. But then I've never been to one....what kinds of stuff do they sell? Am I in some weird minority in my total ignorance?Benpointer said:
Agree it's hardly a seismic shift but I suspect the majority of the population do visit garden centres, especially this time of year. They are not just for 'avid gardners'.dixiedean said:Off topoc. But what is it about garden centres? I can't honestly ever recall having been to onr. Allowing them to open isnt gping to materially affect my situation.
Other than the most avid gardener I can't imagine too many others either.
Also worth noting most garden centres do a lot of non-garden retailing these days.
Garden centres are all very well for Middle England, but I'm not sure a big fanfare announcing that you can now go to one will go down that well in the Red Wall.0 -
I really am confused now.HYUFD said:
No I was invited to itMexicanpete said:
You invited your flat to a BBQ?HYUFD said:Had a socially distanced BBQ with my flat, been a good VE Day all in all, finished with the Queen and Vera Lynn
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Does it apply at the Irish border?Big_G_NorthWales said:
I think it applies across the board but could be wrongBenpointer said:Big_G_NorthWales said:
And ends holidays abroad for as long as it is in forceChris said:
Seems a bit unfair, when even people who have the disease can go out after 7 days ...Big_G_NorthWales said:Times
All flights passengers to be quarantined for 14 days including returning UK citizens
Unless you go by car, train, ferry or, dare I say it, cruise ship!
(Ok that last one is not going to be an opion anytime soon)0 -
Only if you visit a care home, surely? I'm not sure how care homes raise the R number for the rest if us who never go in one.Foxy said:
Until the prevalence drops here, there is no benefit.rcs1000 said:
It's worse than that.eadric said:
How the F was this not done in February or March?Big_G_NorthWales said:Times
All flights passengers to be quarantined for 14 days including returning UK citizens
A shameful failure
Quarantining starts "at the end of May". So, in three weeks time when the problems are less severe, they'll implement it.
It literally makes no sense.
There must be 10,000 beds around Heathrow in airport hotels, maybe 20,000, and they're all empty.
It's really not complicated to put people there for two weeks.
Haven't you noticed that we are the European hotspot?
Safer in Italy or Spain than London at present!0 -
Anyone who thinks the Tories will get 50% in the next GE with the economy in tatters, a 5th wave of CV-19 likely filling the ICUs again, and a big chunk of loyal Tory voters having sadly voted their last is similarly deluded.MarqueeMark said:
It means everything if there isn't another Tory voter strike.Benpointer said:Philip_Thompson said:Its remarkable how normal and how taken for granted the Tories getting 50% in the polls is now. The polls are comparable to those in 1998, but after a decade of the blues being in Downing Street..
Enjoy it while you can... it's not going to last.
This time last year the Tories hit 19%; 50% today means nothing with no GE on the horizon.
Any political commentator who thought the Tory vote in a General Election was anywhere near 19% was a pillock. Especially with Corbyn helming Labour.
The run up to the EU elections 2019 was marked by an army of those who would later vote for Boris having a larf. It was an election where you could do that. Nothing was at stake. Vote Brexit Party - and watch the commentariat piss their pants.0 -
So in other words no different from what the government was asking people to do in February?nico67 said:Asking people to self isolate isn’t a quarantine. The government isn’t taking charge of those travellers . The headline looks tough but just more spin.
If so, that’s pathetic.0 -
He was invited to a BBQ with his flat, obviously.Mexicanpete said:
I really am confused now.HYUFD said:
No I was invited to itMexicanpete said:
You invited your flat to a BBQ?HYUFD said:Had a socially distanced BBQ with my flat, been a good VE Day all in all, finished with the Queen and Vera Lynn
I am sure he'll have a poll out soon to explain it all.2 -
I know you are a medical man and I am a f******* idiot but your first statement makes no sense to me.Foxy said:
Until the prevalence drops here, there is no benefit.rcs1000 said:
It's worse than that.eadric said:
How the F was this not done in February or March?Big_G_NorthWales said:Times
All flights passengers to be quarantined for 14 days including returning UK citizens
A shameful failure
Quarantining starts "at the end of May". So, in three weeks time when the problems are less severe, they'll implement it.
It literally makes no sense.
There must be 10,000 beds around Heathrow in airport hotels, maybe 20,000, and they're all empty.
It's really not complicated to put people there for two weeks.
Haven't you noticed that we are the European hotspot?
Safer in Italy or Spain than London at present!
Surely an aircraft is a mobile petri dish, recirculating air shared between 200 people. who then disperse to all corners of the UK, some using public transport like the tube, sounds like a bad idea to me.0 -
It sounds like the plot of a Mr Bean episode.Benpointer said:
He was invited to a BBQ with his flat, obviously.Mexicanpete said:
I really am confused now.HYUFD said:
No I was invited to itMexicanpete said:
You invited your flat to a BBQ?HYUFD said:Had a socially distanced BBQ with my flat, been a good VE Day all in all, finished with the Queen and Vera Lynn
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Indeed.MarqueeMark said:
It means everything if there isn't another Tory voter strike.Benpointer said:Philip_Thompson said:Its remarkable how normal and how taken for granted the Tories getting 50% in the polls is now. The polls are comparable to those in 1998, but after a decade of the blues being in Downing Street..
Enjoy it while you can... it's not going to last.
This time last year the Tories hit 19%; 50% today means nothing with no GE on the horizon.
Any political commentator who thought the Tory vote in a General Election was anywhere near 19% was a pillock. Especially with Corbyn helming Labour.
The run up to the EU elections 2019 was marked by an army of those who would later vote for Boris having a larf. It was an election where you could do that. Nothing was at stake. Vote Brexit Party - and watch the commentariat piss their pants.
I could never have voted for UKIP but I voted Brexit Party as a "sack Theresa May now" protest vote - my vote meant nothing more nor less than that.
Even voting BXP I still felt like a Tory in exile and I'm glad my vote was one of millions that saw the back of that horrid woman.
Anyone who thought 19% was real is smoking harder drugs than even Michael Gove would touch.0 -
They are pretty big business oop north as well as I recall.Flatlander said:
Ha! I'd not heard that but it is pretty accurate. There's obviously more money in selling expensive tat than plants. Don't forget the obligatory tea shop too, although that will presumably have to remain closed.state_go_away said:
They don't call them Thirtypoundlands for nothingBenpointer said:
Clothes, food, books, cards, homeware, toys, lots of cheap old junk that plenty of people seem compelled to buy... Oh, and some plants and compost too.dixiedean said:
Oh. I didn't know that. But then I've never been to one....what kinds of stuff do they sell? Am I in some weird minority in my total ignorance?Benpointer said:
Agree it's hardly a seismic shift but I suspect the majority of the population do visit garden centres, especially this time of year. They are not just for 'avid gardners'.dixiedean said:Off topoc. But what is it about garden centres? I can't honestly ever recall having been to onr. Allowing them to open isnt gping to materially affect my situation.
Other than the most avid gardener I can't imagine too many others either.
Also worth noting most garden centres do a lot of non-garden retailing these days.
Garden centres are all very well for Middle England, but I'm not sure a big fanfare announcing that you can now go to one will go down that well in the Red Wall.0 -
No its not.Mexicanpete said:
I know you are a medical man and I am a f******* idiot but your first statement makes no sense to me.Foxy said:
Until the prevalence drops here, there is no benefit.rcs1000 said:
It's worse than that.eadric said:
How the F was this not done in February or March?Big_G_NorthWales said:Times
All flights passengers to be quarantined for 14 days including returning UK citizens
A shameful failure
Quarantining starts "at the end of May". So, in three weeks time when the problems are less severe, they'll implement it.
It literally makes no sense.
There must be 10,000 beds around Heathrow in airport hotels, maybe 20,000, and they're all empty.
It's really not complicated to put people there for two weeks.
Haven't you noticed that we are the European hotspot?
Safer in Italy or Spain than London at present!
Surely an aircraft is a mobile petri dish, recirculating air shared between 200 people. who then disperse to all corners of the UK, some using public transport like the tube, sounds like a bad idea to me.0 -
Followed a week later by Joke Shops - after intensive lobbying by purveyors of dirty fidos so that good clean fun can be once again enjoyed by the Great British PublicBenpointer said:
Haberdashers - so that we can buy the elastic to make masks from old dusters?state_go_away said:At this rate of easing lockdown (garden centres!) we will be with Buck Rodgers in the 25th century before pubs are open. Shall we all have a guess as to what extra treat we will have next week?
My suggestion would be to allow Music shops to open but only if they sell only woodwind and brass instruments - drums can be saved for the following weeks easing.0 -
I hope it's not that rogue poll he wheeled out every other day in November saying Johnson would achieve a landslide.Benpointer said:
He was invited to a BBQ with his flat, obviously.Mexicanpete said:
I really am confused now.HYUFD said:
No I was invited to itMexicanpete said:
You invited your flat to a BBQ?HYUFD said:Had a socially distanced BBQ with my flat, been a good VE Day all in all, finished with the Queen and Vera Lynn
I am sure he'll have a poll out soon to explain it all.2 -
Did he get his head stuck in a turkey?williamglenn said:
It sounds like the plot of a Mr Bean episode.Benpointer said:
He was invited to a BBQ with his flat, obviously.Mexicanpete said:
I really am confused now.HYUFD said:
No I was invited to itMexicanpete said:
You invited your flat to a BBQ?HYUFD said:Had a socially distanced BBQ with my flat, been a good VE Day all in all, finished with the Queen and Vera Lynn
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Why?Philip_Thompson said:
No its not.Mexicanpete said:
I know you are a medical man and I am a f******* idiot but your first statement makes no sense to me.Foxy said:
Until the prevalence drops here, there is no benefit.rcs1000 said:
It's worse than that.eadric said:
How the F was this not done in February or March?Big_G_NorthWales said:Times
All flights passengers to be quarantined for 14 days including returning UK citizens
A shameful failure
Quarantining starts "at the end of May". So, in three weeks time when the problems are less severe, they'll implement it.
It literally makes no sense.
There must be 10,000 beds around Heathrow in airport hotels, maybe 20,000, and they're all empty.
It's really not complicated to put people there for two weeks.
Haven't you noticed that we are the European hotspot?
Safer in Italy or Spain than London at present!
Surely an aircraft is a mobile petri dish, recirculating air shared between 200 people. who then disperse to all corners of the UK, some using public transport like the tube, sounds like a bad idea to me.0
