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Although there has been no big breakthrough for LAB since double election loser Corbyn was replaced by Starmer a positive is that the party is now out of the 20s and the CON share is edging down.
Its remarkable how normal and how taken for granted the Tories getting 50% in the polls is now. The polls are comparable to those in 1998, but after a decade of the blues being in Downing Street..
Change in the polls, when it comes, will be sudden and dramatic I suspect. Some way off I should think. As Philip notes the Tories being so strong in the polls should be very unusual, yet that was the case pre rallying effect.
Off topoc. But what is it about garden centres? I can't honestly ever recall having been to onr. Allowing them to open isnt gping to materially affect my situation. Other than the most avid gardener I can't imagine too many others either.
Yet again Mike has to spin a 17-23% lead as being only ok for the Conservatives if not just bad. Please cut the bias. Starmer had nowhere to go but up and hasn't had a breakthrough. He has a very safe and boring leadership election campaign which was a missed opportunity (Blair made this point). He may ask good question, if being a bit partisan in PMQs but it takes more than that.
All flights passengers to be quarantined for 14 days including returning UK citizens
How the F was this not done in February or March?
A shameful failure
We shall see. You lamented long and hard that a failure to lockdown sooner and harder was a shameful failure, yet now you're talking of it having done more harm than good. The gov will need to explain its decisions - and curious that I don't recall the opposition making a big show on the failure to do this before now despite it being out of step with many places - and who knows you might well change your tune.
Given the Tories have not won 50% of the vote since WW2, if them polling 50% or more still is a worry for them I hate to think what real problems would be
Its remarkable how normal and how taken for granted the Tories getting 50% in the polls is now. The polls are comparable to those in 1998, but after a decade of the blues being in Downing Street..
Enjoy it while you can... it's not going to last.
This time last year the Tories hit 19%; 50% today means nothing with no GE on the horizon.
All flights passengers to be quarantined for 14 days including returning UK citizens
How the F was this not done in February or March?
A shameful failure
Also: "...from the end of May" WTAF!?
Sounds a bit like they didn't think there was a point in bringing it in earlier because the virus was already widespread so it'd make no difference once everywhere was locked down internally anyway, but once we are easing out of lockdown it would make a difference and we can bring in the measures ahead of, and to hopefully prevent, a second wave. But I've no idea if that is the reasoning or even if it makes sense, but the delay in bringing it in until June makes me think that way.
Its remarkable how normal and how taken for granted the Tories getting 50% in the polls is now. The polls are comparable to those in 1998, but after a decade of the blues being in Downing Street..
Enjoy it while you can... it's not going to last.
This time last year the Tories hit 19%; 50% today means nothing with no GE on the horizon.
Pretty sure he wouldn't think it is going to last, but equally many would have said it wouldn't have happened at all and it has.
Yet again Mike has to spin a 17-23% lead as being only ok for the Conservatives if not just bad. Please cut the bias. Starmer had nowhere to go but up and hasn't had a breakthrough. He has a very safe and boring leadership election campaign which was a missed opportunity (Blair made this point). He may ask good question, if being a bit partisan in PMQs but it takes more than that.
Partisan? He is Leader of the Opposition. It would be dereliction of duty if he wasn't.
Off topoc. But what is it about garden centres? I can't honestly ever recall having been to onr. Allowing them to open isnt gping to materially affect my situation. Other than the most avid gardener I can't imagine too many others either.
Agree it's hardly a seismic shift but I suspect the majority of the population do visit garden centres, especially this time of year. They are not just for 'avid gardners'.
Also worth noting most garden centres do a lot of non-garden retailing these days.
2024 is a bloody long time away and could be an entirely different political era.
I see no value in betting on the next election at present.
Indeed. Given that it was 5 years yesterday since Cameron won a majority, you would imagine folk may be somewhat loath to envision 4 years into the future. What with a pandemic, global recession and all.
All flights passengers to be quarantined for 14 days including returning UK citizens
How the F was this not done in February or March?
A shameful failure
Also: "...from the end of May" WTAF!?
Sounds a bit like they didn't think there was a point in bringing it in earlier because the virus was already widespread so it'd make no difference once everywhere was locked down internally anyway, but once we are easing out of lockdown it would make a difference and we can bring in the measures ahead of, and to hopefully prevent, a second wave. But I've no idea if that is the reasoning or even if it makes sense, but the delay in bringing it in until June makes me think that way.
Or. They don't know what they're doing. There is always that to consider.
All flights passengers to be quarantined for 14 days including returning UK citizens
How the F was this not done in February or March?
A shameful failure
Also: "...from the end of May" WTAF!?
Sounds a bit like they didn't think there was a point in bringing it in earlier because the virus was already widespread so it'd make no difference once everywhere was locked down internally anyway, but once we are easing out of lockdown it would make a difference and we can bring in the measures ahead of, and to hopefully prevent, a second wave. But I've no idea if that is the reasoning or even if it makes sense, but the delay in bringing it in until June makes me think that way.
2024 is a bloody long time away and could be an entirely different political era.
I see no value in betting on the next election at present.
Yes and No! At an objective level 2024 is a long way off - but if Polling Day is to be May that year, we are almost as close to it as to the 2016 Referendum!
Its remarkable how normal and how taken for granted the Tories getting 50% in the polls is now. The polls are comparable to those in 1998, but after a decade of the blues being in Downing Street..
Enjoy it while you can... it's not going to last.
This time last year the Tories hit 19%; 50% today means nothing with no GE on the horizon.
Presumably that will mean a change to the regulations about purposes for which we're allowed to leave the house. Will there be an extra item "to visit a garden centre" or will garden centres be classified as "critical public services"?
Rifkind and Steel rule out a Con/Lib Dem coalition, it would never have worked anyway.
Steel also said the LDs would not back a tax cut for the rich, before Clegg backed a cut in the top rate of income tax to 45%
Steel - and Kennedy - ought to have been much more vocal in seeking to block formation of the Coaltion.If 12 LD MPs had openly declared that they felt unable to support such a government,it would not have come to pass.
Off topoc. But what is it about garden centres? I can't honestly ever recall having been to onr. Allowing them to open isnt gping to materially affect my situation. Other than the most avid gardener I can't imagine too many others either.
Agree it's hardly a seismic shift but I suspect the majority of the population do visit garden centres, especially this time of year. They are not just for 'avid gardners'.
Also worth noting most garden centres do a lot of non-garden retailing these days.
Oh. I didn't know that. But then I've never been to one....what kinds of stuff do they sell? Am I in some weird minority in my total ignorance?
All flights passengers to be quarantined for 14 days including returning UK citizens
Seems a bit unfair, when even people who have the disease can go out after 7 days ...
And ends holidays abroad for as long as it is in force
Unless you go by car, train, ferry or, dare I say it, cruise ship!
(Ok that last one is not going to be an opion anytime soon)
I think it applies across the board but could be wrong
You're probably right Big_G.
Mrs P and were speculating on the possibility of a 99 day cruise where, instead of going round the world, you just visit 7 ports... but have to do 14 days quarantine in each port. We were on our 2nd or third bottle by then mind.
All flights passengers to be quarantined for 14 days including returning UK citizens
Seems a bit unfair, when even people who have the disease can go out after 7 days ...
It's to include an incubation period. If you are in contact with a household member with the virus, you should self-isolate for 14 days, not 7. 7 is from the onset of symptoms.
Can we have pubs, 1 June please? With social distancing of course
Self-catering holidays in the UK from July too please?
And flights to USA August? Ok we will wait until next year for that!
Lol, we should be on the QM2 heading for NY this week.
I should be in The Hague tonight
It's particluarly galling as we have never sailed out of Southampton in nice weather. If we'd departed on Wednesday as planned we'd have had a beautiful few days heading out to the Atlantic.
On the other hand, in compensation we've had a beautiful few days at home in rural Dorset. We count our blessings.
Off topoc. But what is it about garden centres? I can't honestly ever recall having been to onr. Allowing them to open isnt gping to materially affect my situation. Other than the most avid gardener I can't imagine too many others either.
Agree it's hardly a seismic shift but I suspect the majority of the population do visit garden centres, especially this time of year. They are not just for 'avid gardners'.
Also worth noting most garden centres do a lot of non-garden retailing these days.
Oh. I didn't know that. But then I've never been to one....what kinds of stuff do they sell? Am I in some weird minority in my total ignorance?
No, I've never been to one. We have a gardener for that sort of thing.
Off topoc. But what is it about garden centres? I can't honestly ever recall having been to onr. Allowing them to open isnt gping to materially affect my situation. Other than the most avid gardener I can't imagine too many others either.
Agree it's hardly a seismic shift but I suspect the majority of the population do visit garden centres, especially this time of year. They are not just for 'avid gardners'.
Also worth noting most garden centres do a lot of non-garden retailing these days.
Oh. I didn't know that. But then I've never been to one....what kinds of stuff do they sell? Am I in some weird minority in my total ignorance?
Water features, compost , potted plants , gnomes - you know the crack cocaine of middle England
All flights passengers to be quarantined for 14 days including returning UK citizens
Seems a bit unfair, when even people who have the disease can go out after 7 days ...
It's to include an incubation period. If you are in contact with a household member with the virus, you should self-isolate for 14 days, not 7. 7 is from the onset of symptoms.
Yes it's perfectly sensible to let people out after 7 days of course.
All flights passengers to be quarantined for 14 days including returning UK citizens
Seems a bit unfair, when even people who have the disease can go out after 7 days ...
And ends holidays abroad for as long as it is in force
Unless you go by car, train, ferry or, dare I say it, cruise ship!
(Ok that last one is not going to be an opion anytime soon)
I think it applies across the board but could be wrong
You're probably right Big_G.
Mrs P and were speculating on the possibility of a 99 day cruise where, instead of going round the world, you just visit 7 ports... but have to do 14 days quarantine in each port. We were on our 2nd or third bottle by then mind.
Off topoc. But what is it about garden centres? I can't honestly ever recall having been to onr. Allowing them to open isnt gping to materially affect my situation. Other than the most avid gardener I can't imagine too many others either.
Agree it's hardly a seismic shift but I suspect the majority of the population do visit garden centres, especially this time of year. They are not just for 'avid gardners'.
Also worth noting most garden centres do a lot of non-garden retailing these days.
Oh. I didn't know that. But then I've never been to one....what kinds of stuff do they sell? Am I in some weird minority in my total ignorance?
Clothes, food, books, cards, homeware, toys, lots of cheap old junk that plenty of people seem compelled to buy... Oh, and some plants and compost too.
Rifkind and Steel rule out a Con/Lib Dem coalition, it would never have worked anyway.
Steel also said the LDs would not back a tax cut for the rich, before Clegg backed a cut in the top rate of income tax to 45%
Steel - and Kennedy - ought to have been much more vocal in seeking to block formation of the Coaltion.If 12 LD MPs had openly declared that they felt unable to support such a government,it would not have come to pass.
There was not the mandate for them to support Labour either, given the Tories were by far the largest party on votes and seats a Tory LD deal whether confidence or supply was the only option available to them
Off topoc. But what is it about garden centres? I can't honestly ever recall having been to onr. Allowing them to open isnt gping to materially affect my situation. Other than the most avid gardener I can't imagine too many others either.
Agree it's hardly a seismic shift but I suspect the majority of the population do visit garden centres, especially this time of year. They are not just for 'avid gardners'.
Also worth noting most garden centres do a lot of non-garden retailing these days.
Oh. I didn't know that. But then I've never been to one....what kinds of stuff do they sell? Am I in some weird minority in my total ignorance?
Clothes, food, books, cards, homeware, toys, lots of cheap old junk that plenty of people seem compelled to buy... Oh, and some plants and compost too.
Rifkind and Steel rule out a Con/Lib Dem coalition, it would never have worked anyway.
Steel also said the LDs would not back a tax cut for the rich, before Clegg backed a cut in the top rate of income tax to 45%
Steel - and Kennedy - ought to have been much more vocal in seeking to block formation of the Coaltion.If 12 LD MPs had openly declared that they felt unable to support such a government,it would not have come to pass.
There was not the mandate for them to support Labour either, given the Tories were by far the largest party on votes and seats a Tory LD deal whether confidence or supply was the only option available to them
Is that programme still on? I bet Con and LD end up forming a coalition
Its remarkable how normal and how taken for granted the Tories getting 50% in the polls is now. The polls are comparable to those in 1998, but after a decade of the blues being in Downing Street..
Enjoy it while you can... it's not going to last.
This time last year the Tories hit 19%; 50% today means nothing with no GE on the horizon.
The Tories only hit 19% as most of their 2017 vote went to the Brexit Party who hit 25%, that will not happen again as Boris has reunited the pro Brexit vote and the right under his banner. Hence his landslide victory last year
Rifkind and Steel rule out a Con/Lib Dem coalition, it would never have worked anyway.
Steel also said the LDs would not back a tax cut for the rich, before Clegg backed a cut in the top rate of income tax to 45%
Steel - and Kennedy - ought to have been much more vocal in seeking to block formation of the Coaltion.If 12 LD MPs had openly declared that they felt unable to support such a government,it would not have come to pass.
There was not the mandate for them to support Labour either, given the Tories were by far the largest party on votes and seats a Tory LD deal whether confidence or supply was the only option available to them
Is that programme still on? I bet Con and LD end up forming a coalition
Yes it is mid morning and Paxman still interviewing
Rifkind and Steel rule out a Con/Lib Dem coalition, it would never have worked anyway.
Steel also said the LDs would not back a tax cut for the rich, before Clegg backed a cut in the top rate of income tax to 45%
Steel - and Kennedy - ought to have been much more vocal in seeking to block formation of the Coaltion.If 12 LD MPs had openly declared that they felt unable to support such a government,it would not have come to pass.
There was not the mandate for them to support Labour either, given the Tories were by far the largest party on votes and seats a Tory LD deal whether confidence or supply was the only option available to them
Is that programme still on? I bet Con and LD end up forming a coalition
No chance, that would spell catastrophe for the LDs at the next election.
Its remarkable how normal and how taken for granted the Tories getting 50% in the polls is now. The polls are comparable to those in 1998, but after a decade of the blues being in Downing Street..
Enjoy it while you can... it's not going to last.
This time last year the Tories hit 19%; 50% today means nothing with no GE on the horizon.
It means everything if there isn't another Tory voter strike.
Any political commentator who thought the Tory vote in a General Election was anywhere near 19% was a pillock. Especially with Corbyn helming Labour.
The run up to the EU elections 2019 was marked by an army of those who would later vote for Boris having a larf. It was an election where you could do that. Nothing was at stake. Vote Brexit Party - and watch the commentariat piss their pants.
Its remarkable how normal and how taken for granted the Tories getting 50% in the polls is now. The polls are comparable to those in 1998, but after a decade of the blues being in Downing Street..
Enjoy it while you can... it's not going to last.
This time last year the Tories hit 19%; 50% today means nothing with no GE on the horizon.
The Tories only hit 19% as most of their 2017 vote went to the Brexit Party who hit 25%, that will not happen again as Boris has reunited the pro Brexit vote and the right under his banner
Zzzzz You're confusing me with someone who gives a f*ck.
My point is that the polls today say precisely nothing about what they will be at next election.
All flights passengers to be quarantined for 14 days including returning UK citizens
How the F was this not done in February or March?
A shameful failure
Also: "...from the end of May" WTAF!?
Sounds a bit like they didn't think there was a point in bringing it in earlier because the virus was already widespread so it'd make no difference once everywhere was locked down internally anyway, but once we are easing out of lockdown it would make a difference and we can bring in the measures ahead of, and to hopefully prevent, a second wave. But I've no idea if that is the reasoning or even if it makes sense, but the delay in bringing it in until June makes me think that way.
Also, why not be a bit smarter and have different countries with different risk tiers:
- coming from South Korea? Come right in - coming from the US? Two week quarantine - coming from Mexico? No you're not
At this rate of easing lockdown (garden centres!) we will be with Buck Rodgers in the 25th century before pubs are open. Shall we all have a guess as to what extra treat we will have next week? My suggestion would be to allow Music shops to open but only if they sell only woodwind and brass instruments - drums can be saved for the following weeks easing.
Its remarkable how normal and how taken for granted the Tories getting 50% in the polls is now. The polls are comparable to those in 1998, but after a decade of the blues being in Downing Street..
Enjoy it while you can... it's not going to last.
This time last year the Tories hit 19%; 50% today means nothing with no GE on the horizon.
The Tories only hit 19% as most of their 2017 vote went to the Brexit Party who hit 25%, that will not happen again as Boris has reunited the pro Brexit vote and the right under his banner
Zzzzz You're confusing me with someone who gives a f*ck.
My point is that the polls today say precisely nothing about what they will be at next election.
At this rate of easing lockdown (garden centres!) we will be with Buck Rodgers in the 25th century before pubs are open. Shall we all have a guess as to what extra treat we will have next week? My suggestion would be to allow Music shops to open but only if they sell only woodwind and brass instruments - drums can be saved for the following weeks easing.
Haberdashers - so that we can buy the elastic to make masks from old dusters?
Its remarkable how normal and how taken for granted the Tories getting 50% in the polls is now. The polls are comparable to those in 1998, but after a decade of the blues being in Downing Street..
Enjoy it while you can... it's not going to last.
This time last year the Tories hit 19%; 50% today means nothing with no GE on the horizon.
We have an 80 seat majority, I'm content to enjoy it for the next few years.
If we win a fifth consecutive election in 2024 that to be honest will be far more than I ever expected and if not c'est la vie.
Asking people to self isolate isn’t a quarantine. The government isn’t taking charge of those travellers . The headline looks tough but just more spin.
Lockdown reminds me of the Evacuation of children in 1940. Done for the best reasons, and totally logical, but in the end many rebelled and it probably damaged more than it saved
Gave us The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe though
Off topoc. But what is it about garden centres? I can't honestly ever recall having been to onr. Allowing them to open isnt gping to materially affect my situation. Other than the most avid gardener I can't imagine too many others either.
Agree it's hardly a seismic shift but I suspect the majority of the population do visit garden centres, especially this time of year. They are not just for 'avid gardners'.
Also worth noting most garden centres do a lot of non-garden retailing these days.
Oh. I didn't know that. But then I've never been to one....what kinds of stuff do they sell? Am I in some weird minority in my total ignorance?
Clothes, food, books, cards, homeware, toys, lots of cheap old junk that plenty of people seem compelled to buy... Oh, and some plants and compost too.
They don't call them Thirtypoundlands for nothing
Ha! I'd not heard that but it is pretty accurate. There's obviously more money in selling expensive tat than plants. Don't forget the obligatory tea shop too, although that will presumably have to remain closed.
Garden centres are all very well for Middle England, but I'm not sure a big fanfare announcing that you can now go to one will go down that well in the Red Wall.
Its remarkable how normal and how taken for granted the Tories getting 50% in the polls is now. The polls are comparable to those in 1998, but after a decade of the blues being in Downing Street..
Enjoy it while you can... it's not going to last.
This time last year the Tories hit 19%; 50% today means nothing with no GE on the horizon.
It means everything if there isn't another Tory voter strike.
Any political commentator who thought the Tory vote in a General Election was anywhere near 19% was a pillock. Especially with Corbyn helming Labour.
The run up to the EU elections 2019 was marked by an army of those who would later vote for Boris having a larf. It was an election where you could do that. Nothing was at stake. Vote Brexit Party - and watch the commentariat piss their pants.
Anyone who thinks the Tories will get 50% in the next GE with the economy in tatters, a 5th wave of CV-19 likely filling the ICUs again, and a big chunk of loyal Tory voters having sadly voted their last is similarly deluded.
Asking people to self isolate isn’t a quarantine. The government isn’t taking charge of those travellers . The headline looks tough but just more spin.
If they're asking people to self isolate, then why bother?
Asking people to self isolate isn’t a quarantine. The government isn’t taking charge of those travellers . The headline looks tough but just more spin.
So in other words no different from what the government was asking people to do in February?
All flights passengers to be quarantined for 14 days including returning UK citizens
How the F was this not done in February or March?
A shameful failure
It's worse than that.
Quarantining starts "at the end of May". So, in three weeks time when the problems are less severe, they'll implement it.
It literally makes no sense.
There must be 10,000 beds around Heathrow in airport hotels, maybe 20,000, and they're all empty.
It's really not complicated to put people there for two weeks.
Until the prevalence drops here, there is no benefit.
Haven't you noticed that we are the European hotspot?
Safer in Italy or Spain than London at present!
I know you are a medical man and I am a f******* idiot but your first statement makes no sense to me.
Surely an aircraft is a mobile petri dish, recirculating air shared between 200 people. who then disperse to all corners of the UK, some using public transport like the tube, sounds like a bad idea to me.
Its remarkable how normal and how taken for granted the Tories getting 50% in the polls is now. The polls are comparable to those in 1998, but after a decade of the blues being in Downing Street..
Enjoy it while you can... it's not going to last.
This time last year the Tories hit 19%; 50% today means nothing with no GE on the horizon.
It means everything if there isn't another Tory voter strike.
Any political commentator who thought the Tory vote in a General Election was anywhere near 19% was a pillock. Especially with Corbyn helming Labour.
The run up to the EU elections 2019 was marked by an army of those who would later vote for Boris having a larf. It was an election where you could do that. Nothing was at stake. Vote Brexit Party - and watch the commentariat piss their pants.
Indeed.
I could never have voted for UKIP but I voted Brexit Party as a "sack Theresa May now" protest vote - my vote meant nothing more nor less than that.
Even voting BXP I still felt like a Tory in exile and I'm glad my vote was one of millions that saw the back of that horrid woman.
Anyone who thought 19% was real is smoking harder drugs than even Michael Gove would touch.
Off topoc. But what is it about garden centres? I can't honestly ever recall having been to onr. Allowing them to open isnt gping to materially affect my situation. Other than the most avid gardener I can't imagine too many others either.
Agree it's hardly a seismic shift but I suspect the majority of the population do visit garden centres, especially this time of year. They are not just for 'avid gardners'.
Also worth noting most garden centres do a lot of non-garden retailing these days.
Oh. I didn't know that. But then I've never been to one....what kinds of stuff do they sell? Am I in some weird minority in my total ignorance?
Clothes, food, books, cards, homeware, toys, lots of cheap old junk that plenty of people seem compelled to buy... Oh, and some plants and compost too.
They don't call them Thirtypoundlands for nothing
Ha! I'd not heard that but it is pretty accurate. There's obviously more money in selling expensive tat than plants. Don't forget the obligatory tea shop too, although that will presumably have to remain closed.
Garden centres are all very well for Middle England, but I'm not sure a big fanfare announcing that you can now go to one will go down that well in the Red Wall.
They are pretty big business oop north as well as I recall.
All flights passengers to be quarantined for 14 days including returning UK citizens
How the F was this not done in February or March?
A shameful failure
It's worse than that.
Quarantining starts "at the end of May". So, in three weeks time when the problems are less severe, they'll implement it.
It literally makes no sense.
There must be 10,000 beds around Heathrow in airport hotels, maybe 20,000, and they're all empty.
It's really not complicated to put people there for two weeks.
Until the prevalence drops here, there is no benefit.
Haven't you noticed that we are the European hotspot?
Safer in Italy or Spain than London at present!
I know you are a medical man and I am a f******* idiot but your first statement makes no sense to me.
Surely an aircraft is a mobile petri dish, recirculating air shared between 200 people. who then disperse to all corners of the UK, some using public transport like the tube, sounds like a bad idea to me.
At this rate of easing lockdown (garden centres!) we will be with Buck Rodgers in the 25th century before pubs are open. Shall we all have a guess as to what extra treat we will have next week? My suggestion would be to allow Music shops to open but only if they sell only woodwind and brass instruments - drums can be saved for the following weeks easing.
Haberdashers - so that we can buy the elastic to make masks from old dusters?
Followed a week later by Joke Shops - after intensive lobbying by purveyors of dirty fidos so that good clean fun can be once again enjoyed by the Great British Public
All flights passengers to be quarantined for 14 days including returning UK citizens
How the F was this not done in February or March?
A shameful failure
It's worse than that.
Quarantining starts "at the end of May". So, in three weeks time when the problems are less severe, they'll implement it.
It literally makes no sense.
There must be 10,000 beds around Heathrow in airport hotels, maybe 20,000, and they're all empty.
It's really not complicated to put people there for two weeks.
Until the prevalence drops here, there is no benefit.
Haven't you noticed that we are the European hotspot?
Safer in Italy or Spain than London at present!
I know you are a medical man and I am a f******* idiot but your first statement makes no sense to me.
Surely an aircraft is a mobile petri dish, recirculating air shared between 200 people. who then disperse to all corners of the UK, some using public transport like the tube, sounds like a bad idea to me.
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All flights passengers to be quarantined for 14 days including returning UK citizens
Other than the most avid gardener I can't imagine too many others either.
I see no value in betting on the next election at present.
Enjoy it while you can... it's not going to last.
This time last year the Tories hit 19%; 50% today means nothing with no GE on the horizon.
Also worth noting most garden centres do a lot of non-garden retailing these days.
Edit: Mrs P. has just pointed out our week in a cottage in Cornwall is actually booked for the end of June not July!
Unless you go by car, train, ferry or, dare I say it, cruise ship!
(Ok that last one is not going to be an option anytime soon)
Mrs P and were speculating on the possibility of a 99 day cruise where, instead of going round the world, you just visit 7 ports... but have to do 14 days quarantine in each port. We were on our 2nd or third bottle by then mind.
Or maybe LD under Layla 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
On the other hand, in compensation we've had a beautiful few days at home in rural Dorset. We count our blessings.
I wonder what the true global number of cases is?
Quarantining starts "at the end of May". So, in three weeks time when the problems are less severe, they'll implement it.
It literally makes no sense.
There must be 10,000 beds around Heathrow in airport hotels, maybe 20,000, and they're all empty.
It's really not complicated to put people there for two weeks.
Any political commentator who thought the Tory vote in a General Election was anywhere near 19% was a pillock. Especially with Corbyn helming Labour.
The run up to the EU elections 2019 was marked by an army of those who would later vote for Boris having a larf. It was an election where you could do that. Nothing was at stake. Vote Brexit Party - and watch the commentariat piss their pants.
My point is that the polls today say precisely nothing about what they will be at next election.
- coming from South Korea? Come right in
- coming from the US? Two week quarantine
- coming from Mexico? No you're not
My suggestion would be to allow Music shops to open but only if they sell only woodwind and brass instruments - drums can be saved for the following weeks easing.
Haven't you noticed that we are the European hotspot?
Safer in Italy or Spain than London at present!
If we win a fifth consecutive election in 2024 that to be honest will be far more than I ever expected and if not c'est la vie.
Garden centres are all very well for Middle England, but I'm not sure a big fanfare announcing that you can now go to one will go down that well in the Red Wall.
It's not quarantine, it's a con-antine.
If so, that’s pathetic.
I am sure he'll have a poll out soon to explain it all.
Surely an aircraft is a mobile petri dish, recirculating air shared between 200 people. who then disperse to all corners of the UK, some using public transport like the tube, sounds like a bad idea to me.
I could never have voted for UKIP but I voted Brexit Party as a "sack Theresa May now" protest vote - my vote meant nothing more nor less than that.
Even voting BXP I still felt like a Tory in exile and I'm glad my vote was one of millions that saw the back of that horrid woman.
Anyone who thought 19% was real is smoking harder drugs than even Michael Gove would touch.