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When will the bookies settle up? Tomorrow or Monday, I suppose, in case Johnson trolls everybody by revoking at 22.59?

ydoethur said:

When will the bookies settle up? Tomorrow or Monday, I suppose, in case Johnson trolls everybody by revoking at 22.59?

10.00pm tonight. He speaks to the nation.

"I have in front of me two letters..... Eeeny, meeny, miny, mo....."

Following the Daily Star theme, another thing that ends at 23:00 GMT tonight is the football transfer window in England (Scotland, which always has to be different, has theirs at midnight.) Most media outlets will be much more interested in marking Brexit, but it's quite possible that more people out in the country will be paying attention to who's signed up where at the last minute.

A constant mistake that's been made ever since June 2016 (by the media, but most critically by the hardline Remainers, whose failed strategy was largely predicated on a myth) was to assume that, because the referendum vote was almost 50:50, the country is split down the middle on Brexit into two almost warring camps. It isn't, and it never was.

The partisans on both sides of the Brexit argument constitute a significant but nonetheless relatively small minority. Reporters will seek and doubtless find little groups of Brexiteers holding firework displays and Remainiacs holding candlelit vigils, but for most of the population the formal departure from the EU will go unmarked and, in a great many cases, unnoticed.

my "first" post has disappeared.. I sense foul play!

Boris's this is not an end, but a beginning is surely a deliberate echo of Churchill, and fully appropriate to the end of Transfer Deadline Day, when we celebrate the news of a NIC threshold rise and McDonald's now serving breakfast till 11am.

We will soon be back to Australian bush fire and coronavirus emergencies. The real Brexit bite won't happen just yet.

Meanwhile, across the pond, the Democrats look to have lost the impeachment.

I'm not sure I can recall a more chaotic world in my lifetime.

ThomasNashe said:

AlastairMeeks said:

Meeksit means Meeksit. I suppose today is as good a day as any to announce that I’m retiring on 30 April.

Not from PB, I hope?

Not from PB, no. Though I shall be doing the usual spate of travelling etc so I may be around less for a while.

Mysticrose said:

We will soon be back to Australian bush fire and coronavirus emergencies. The real Brexit bite won't happen just yet.

Meanwhile, across the pond, the Democrats look to have lost the impeachment.

I'm not sure I can recall a more chaotic world in my lifetime.

To be honest, and this may be surprising, I'm inclined to agree. I can remember the war and VE Day...... I was just 7 at the time ....... and started taking a real interest in 'affairs' about 5-6 years later.

MarqueeMark said:

ydoethur said:

When will the bookies settle up? Tomorrow or Monday, I suppose, in case Johnson trolls everybody by revoking at 22.59?

10.00pm tonight. He speaks to the nation.

"I have in front of me two letters..... Eeeny, meeny, miny, mo....."

Given Boris's track record, that nursery rhyme could be a dangerous choice.

MarqueeMark said:

not_on_fire said:

MarqueeMark said:

Europe still has no idea what just happened to its credibility.

They wanted to forge the United States of Europe. But it's like Texas just voted to leave the USA. OK, so Texas might be the most semi-detatched state. But the loss of that large state would have massive repurcussions in the US. The EU? Nobody even lost a day of their pension....

The EU enters February 2020 a far less credible thing.

It’s the UK, not the EU that has a credibility problem after the Brexit process

Imagine the US President, sitting in the White House, announcing gravely that as of tomorrow, "there will only be 49 stars on our slightly-less star spangled banner."

Because that is what just happened to the EU.

Now imagine the fall-out in the US. The next thing the President would be telling the people is that he was resigning. Before the Senate got a chance to fire his sorry ass, for allowing this humiliation to come about.

The EU? At the most senior level of its management, it just has no concept of fuck up.

One of the more bizarre things about the European Parliamentary reports on Juncker is how they studiously avoid any reference to the UK withdrawal process.

Admittedly, even then they can’t find any positives.

AlastairMeeks said:

Meeksit means Meeksit. I suppose today is as good a day as any to announce that I’m retiring on 30 April.

Have a great retirement Alistair!

TheScreamingEagles said:

AlastairMeeks said:

Meeksit means Meeksit. I suppose today is as good a day as any to announce that I’m retiring on 30 April.

So you’ll be in your 50s, white, retired, and living in Essex?

You’ll be backing Brexit next.

Surely racing up and down HS2 trying to decide if it was worth the money?

(No, that post is not meant seriously!)

Enjoy your "retirement" @AlastairMeeks whatever you decide to do with it.

Luckyguy1983 said:

MarqueeMark said:

ydoethur said:

When will the bookies settle up? Tomorrow or Monday, I suppose, in case Johnson trolls everybody by revoking at 22.59?

10.00pm tonight. He speaks to the nation.

"I have in front of me two letters..... Eeeny, meeny, miny, mo....."

Given Boris's track record, that nursery rhyme could be a dangerous choice.

There's a reason I stopped where I did....but put it as far as I did.....

MarqueeMark said:

Now imagine the fall-out in the US. The next thing the President would be telling the people is that he was resigning. Before the Senate got a chance to fire his sorry ass, for allowing this humiliation to come about.

None of this would happen. Even if people in the US considered that it was the US's screw-up instead of Texas finally getting around to doing what it had been threatening all these years, the US Presidents don't resign over screw-ups, and Senates don't fire them.

The Prime Minister is narked with the Chancellor. It's just like old times.

Downing Street anger over 'ill-disciplined' Javid’s attempt to hijack HS2 decision
Boris Johnson’s relationship with Sajid Javid under renewed strain after Chancellor's intervention in rail project row
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/01/30/downing-street-anger-ill-disciplined-javids-attempt-hijack-hs2/

I thought the Daily Star front page was rather funny, actually.

MarqueeMark said:

Europe still has no idea what just happened to its credibility.

They wanted to forge the United States of Europe. But it's like Texas just voted to leave the USA. OK, so Texas might be the most semi-detatched state. But the loss of that large state would have massive repurcussions in the US. The EU? Nobody even lost a day of their pension.....

The effect would be more or less nil, as states do not have the right to secede.

AlastairMeeks said:

MarqueeMark said:

Pension-pot holders across the land will remember this day as a national tragedy.

Enjoy Next Phase of Life. I hop your partner is looking forward to it too.

He’s threatening to go back to work.

The wife in a couple we know pointed out to the husband on the day after his retirement that 'they'd married for better or worse, but not for lunch!'.
He'd been into computing very early, worked for one of the big companies and consequently did a lot of travelling. Having him home all day needed quite an adjustment.
And he doesn't like golf!

MarqueeMark said:

Europe still has no idea what just happened to its credibility.

They wanted to forge the United States of Europe. But it's like Texas just voted to leave the USA. OK, so Texas might be the most semi-detatched state. But the loss of that large state would have massive repurcussions in the US. The EU? Nobody even lost a day of their pension....

The EU enters February 2020 a far less credible thing.

To be fair, the US doesn’t recognise any legal or legitimate mechanism for secession.

So, it would resist any such move by force if needs be.

AlastairMeeks said:

OldKingCole said:

AlastairMeeks said:

Meeksit means Meeksit. I suppose today is as good a day as any to announce that I’m retiring on 30 April.

I picked 30th April too. That was 17 years ago though. The other big event for us that day was that elder son's first child was born that day. Now he's having driving lessons at a 'cardrome' and looking forward to being on the road properly. He and I were messaging each other about automatic cars last night, as per the discussion where.

30 April is a convenient date for me - it’s my firm’s year end.

I retire today, finally at 66.5.. I am going to join the U3A.

AlastairMeeks said:

ThomasNashe said:

AlastairMeeks said:

Meeksit means Meeksit. I suppose today is as good a day as any to announce that I’m retiring on 30 April.

Not from PB, I hope?

Not from PB, no. Though I shall be doing the usual spate of travelling etc so I may be around less for a while.

Are you taking over from Portillo and doing a new series of Great Railway Journeys?

squareroot2 said:

AlastairMeeks said:

OldKingCole said:

AlastairMeeks said:

Meeksit means Meeksit. I suppose today is as good a day as any to announce that I’m retiring on 30 April.

I picked 30th April too. That was 17 years ago though. The other big event for us that day was that elder son's first child was born that day. Now he's having driving lessons at a 'cardrome' and looking forward to being on the road properly. He and I were messaging each other about automatic cars last night, as per the discussion where.

30 April is a convenient date for me - it’s my firm’s year end.

I retire today, finally at 66.5.. I am going to join the U3A.

I’d be really interested to hear what you think of it.

China knew about person to person transmission of coronavirus weeks before they made it public:

https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Coronavirus-outbreak/Coronavirus-study-on-early-human-transmission-fuels-public-anger
The paper also found that only 55% of the 47 infected patients before Jan. 1 were linked to the seafood and live-animal market thought to be ground zero. This means that other patients either got infected elsewhere or from other people.

The new findings have sparked a massive backlash on Chinese social media, with users questioning why the information did not come out earlier.

Many of the paper's authors work for the Chinese Center for Disease Control and local counterparts. Many were among the first batch of medical experts to have entered Wuhan for on-the-ground inspections, developing "a tailored surveillance protocol to identify potential cases" on Jan. 3.

"They all knew," a user on the Weibo microblogging platform said. "They just didn't say, but lied to us."

"If only they could have told people earlier, we could have taken better preventive measures, and the virus would not have spread this fast," another wrote...

Nigelb said:

China knew about person to person transmission of coronavirus weeks before they made it public:

https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Coronavirus-outbreak/Coronavirus-study-on-early-human-transmission-fuels-public-anger
The paper also found that only 55% of the 47 infected patients before Jan. 1 were linked to the seafood and live-animal market thought to be ground zero. This means that other patients either got infected elsewhere or from other people.

The new findings have sparked a massive backlash on Chinese social media, with users questioning why the information did not come out earlier.

Many of the paper's authors work for the Chinese Center for Disease Control and local counterparts. Many were among the first batch of medical experts to have entered Wuhan for on-the-ground inspections, developing "a tailored surveillance protocol to identify potential cases" on Jan. 3.

"They all knew," a user on the Weibo microblogging platform said. "They just didn't say, but lied to us."

"If only they could have told people earlier, we could have taken better preventive measures, and the virus would not have spread this fast," another wrote...

Not exactly surprising given the culture in China both at governmental and citizen level.

Happy Brexit Day PB.

For years Brexiteers and Eurosceptics have been destructively complaining about the world. They can’t do that now, this is their world. It is time for them to come good.

Casino_Royale said:

AlastairMeeks said:

OldKingCole said:

AlastairMeeks said:

Meeksit means Meeksit. I suppose today is as good a day as any to announce that I’m retiring on 30 April.

I picked 30th April too. That was 17 years ago though. The other big event for us that day was that elder son's first child was born that day. Now he's having driving lessons at a 'cardrome' and looking forward to being on the road properly. He and I were messaging each other about automatic cars last night, as per the discussion where.

30 April is a convenient date for me - it’s my firm’s year end.

In all seriousness, congratulations Alastair. Very well deserved.

You must have done well to be retiring at 52 (?) or something like that?!

Thank you. Yes, 52, but I’ve always wanted to try to use some different skills and this gives me the opportunity to do so.

AlastairMeeks said:

squareroot2 said:

AlastairMeeks said:

OldKingCole said:

AlastairMeeks said:

Meeksit means Meeksit. I suppose today is as good a day as any to announce that I’m retiring on 30 April.

I picked 30th April too. That was 17 years ago though. The other big event for us that day was that elder son's first child was born that day. Now he's having driving lessons at a 'cardrome' and looking forward to being on the road properly. He and I were messaging each other about automatic cars last night, as per the discussion where.

30 April is a convenient date for me - it’s my firm’s year end.

I retire today, finally at 66.5.. I am going to join the U3A.

I’d be really interested to hear what you think of it.

Have a look at u3asites.org.uk. The Stanway Group give access to Colchester's as well. Sudbury seems lively, too.

AlastairMeeks said:

OldKingCole said:

AlastairMeeks said:

MarqueeMark said:

Pension-pot holders across the land will remember this day as a national tragedy.

Enjoy Next Phase of Life. I hop your partner is looking forward to it too.

He’s threatening to go back to work.

The wife in a couple we know pointed out to the husband on the day after his retirement that 'they'd married for better or worse, but not for lunch!'.
He'd been into computing very early, worked for one of the big companies and consequently did a lot of travelling. Having him home all day needed quite an adjustment.
And he doesn't like golf!

I’ve more or less been pointed to the outside studio and told to make that my daytime residence. As for what I shall do, I have ideas but I’m also considering suggestions.

Have you considered a career in engineering?

Casino_Royale said:

OldKingCole said:

DecrepiterJohnL said:

OldKingCole said:

AlastairMeeks said:

Meeksit means Meeksit. I suppose today is as good a day as any to announce that I’m retiring on 30 April.

I picked 30th April too. That was 17 years ago though. The other big event for us that day was that elder son's first child was born that day. Now he's having driving lessons at a 'cardrome' and looking forward to being on the road properly. He and I were messaging each other about automatic cars last night, as per the discussion where.

I'm contemplating retirement but am not sure I can afford it. Financial calculations would be a lot easier if I knew when I shall die.

@AlastairMeeks does not look old enough to retire, unless he is a Premier League footballer or perhaps a Brexit lawyer.

A couple I knew decided they'd probably die when they were four or five years older than their parents had done, and planned, financially, accordingly.
Only trouble was they went on a further ten or so years and, for a while, things were rather difficult.
Then she died, and 'something turned up' for him, although he wasn't a happy bunny.

That’s sad. Losing your partner and being alone in my old age is one of my biggest fears.

It was indeed sad. Their retirement had been very good for 15-20 years and then it all turned sour.

AlastairMeeks said:

Casino_Royale said:

AlastairMeeks said:

OldKingCole said:

AlastairMeeks said:

Meeksit means Meeksit. I suppose today is as good a day as any to announce that I’m retiring on 30 April.

I picked 30th April too. That was 17 years ago though. The other big event for us that day was that elder son's first child was born that day. Now he's having driving lessons at a 'cardrome' and looking forward to being on the road properly. He and I were messaging each other about automatic cars last night, as per the discussion where.

30 April is a convenient date for me - it’s my firm’s year end.

In all seriousness, congratulations Alastair. Very well deserved.

You must have done well to be retiring at 52 (?) or something like that?!

Thank you. Yes, 52, but I’ve always wanted to try to use some different skills and this gives me the opportunity to do so.

My pleasure.

Any thoughts on how you might do that which you’d care to share? What are you considering?

AlastairMeeks said:

OldKingCole said:

AlastairMeeks said:

MarqueeMark said:

Pension-pot holders across the land will remember this day as a national tragedy.

Enjoy Next Phase of Life. I hop your partner is looking forward to it too.

He’s threatening to go back to work.

The wife in a couple we know pointed out to the husband on the day after his retirement that 'they'd married for better or worse, but not for lunch!'.
He'd been into computing very early, worked for one of the big companies and consequently did a lot of travelling. Having him home all day needed quite an adjustment.
And he doesn't like golf!

I’ve more or less been pointed to the outside studio and told to make that my daytime residence. As for what I shall do, I have ideas but I’m also considering suggestions.

Congratulations. If there's something you're interested in studying and writing about, why not try an MA or Doctorate. I've begun an MA with Buckingham University.

MarqueeMark said:

not_on_fire said:

MarqueeMark said:

Europe still has no idea what just happened to its credibility.

They wanted to forge the United States of Europe. But it's like Texas just voted to leave the USA. OK, so Texas might be the most semi-detatched state. But the loss of that large state would have massive repurcussions in the US. The EU? Nobody even lost a day of their pension....

The EU enters February 2020 a far less credible thing.

It’s the UK, not the EU that has a credibility problem after the Brexit process

Imagine the US President, sitting in the White House, announcing gravely that as of tomorrow, "there will only be 49 stars on our slightly-less star spangled banner."

Because that is what just happened to the EU.

Now imagine the fall-out in the US. The next thing the President would be telling the people is that he was resigning. Before the Senate got a chance to fire his sorry ass, for allowing this humiliation to come about.

The EU? At the most senior level of its management, it just has no concept of fuck up.

I'd agree there should be more of a sense of self reflection in Brussels, but, that said, I do find it odd when leavers criticize the EU for not being the United States of Europe of their imagination.

It is still a member organisation, an unusually powerful one perhaps, but still.a member organisation, that has lost a member. It is simply not like a USA that has lost a state. It is different.

It is like when you bewail the lack of a politician who campaigns for the EU presidency from Birmingham to Berlin, channelling the spirit of some William Glen federalist erotic dream. The EU presidency is not like that because the EU is not like that, the nation's do not wish it and they are happy with their own domestic democratic power bases, thank you very much.

But we're leaving, so your confusion over what it is we are leaving is, for the present time, rather more moot.

Casino_Royale said:

AlastairMeeks said:

ThomasNashe said:

AlastairMeeks said:

Meeksit means Meeksit. I suppose today is as good a day as any to announce that I’m retiring on 30 April.

Not from PB, I hope?

Not from PB, no. Though I shall be doing the usual spate of travelling etc so I may be around less for a while.

Are you taking over from Portillo and doing a new series of Great Railway Journeys?

What's the emoticon for seething resentment, Sunil?

FrancisUrquhart said:

DecrepiterJohnL said:

The Sun is giving away 100 commemorative 50p coins. Has Rupert cut the budget?

Are the gold ones?

Good question. I was going by the picture at the top of this thread.

No.
SUN readers can mark this momentous day with a FREE Brexit souvenir – a commemorative 50p, worth £10.

That’s right! We are giving away 100 of the brilliant uncirculated coins to celebrate the UK’s historic departure from the European Union.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10860045/sun-readers-free-brexit-souvenir-50p-coin/

Pro_Rata said:

MarqueeMark said:

not_on_fire said:

MarqueeMark said:

Europe still has no idea what just happened to its credibility.

They wanted to forge the United States of Europe. But it's like Texas just voted to leave the USA. OK, so Texas might be the most semi-detatched state. But the loss of that large state would have massive repurcussions in the US. The EU? Nobody even lost a day of their pension....

The EU enters February 2020 a far less credible thing.

It’s the UK, not the EU that has a credibility problem after the Brexit process

Imagine the US President, sitting in the White House, announcing gravely that as of tomorrow, "there will only be 49 stars on our slightly-less star spangled banner."

Because that is what just happened to the EU.

Now imagine the fall-out in the US. The next thing the President would be telling the people is that he was resigning. Before the Senate got a chance to fire his sorry ass, for allowing this humiliation to come about.

The EU? At the most senior level of its management, it just has no concept of fuck up.

I'd agree there should be more of a sense of self reflection in Brussels, but, that said, I do find it odd when leavers criticize the EU for not being the United States of Europe of their imagination.

It is still a member organisation, an unusually powerful one perhaps, but still.a member organisation, that has lost a member. It is simply not like a USA that has lost a state. It is different.

It is like when you bewail the lack of a politician who campaigns for the EU presidency from Birmingham to Berlin, channelling the spirit of some William Glen federalist erotic dream. The EU presidency is not like that because the EU is not like that, the nation's do not wish it and they are happy with their own domestic democratic power bases, thank you very much.

But we're leaving, so your confusion over what it is we are leaving is, for the present time, rather more moot.

If the EU is not going to have politicians campaigning from Birmingham to Berlin then it shouldn't have politicians passing laws from Birmingham to Berlin.

Philip_Thompson said:

Jonathan said:

For years Brexiteers and Eurosceptics have been destructively complaining about the world. They can’t do that now, this is their world. It is time for them to come good.

That was one of the Brexiteers arguments Jonathan, as Gove himself said earlier this week now politicians like him will have nowhere to hide.

Absolutely, they will owe the NHS £350M/wk the moment Brexit is done. The onus on the rest of us is to give him the same respect and support they gave the old settlement.

Philip_Thompson said:

Jonathan said:

For years Brexiteers and Eurosceptics have been destructively complaining about the world. They can’t do that now, this is their world. It is time for them to come good.

That was one of the Brexiteers arguments Jonathan, as Gove himself said earlier this week now politicians like him will have nowhere to hide.

One of the main reasons I voted Leave was to stop the likes of Cameron pledging to do something about immigration, then treble it and say there was nothing he could do about it.

OldKingCole said:

DecrepiterJohnL said:

OldKingCole said:

AlastairMeeks said:

MarqueeMark said:

Pension-pot holders across the land will remember this day as a national tragedy.

Enjoy Next Phase of Life. I hop your partner is looking forward to it too.

He’s threatening to go back to work.

The wife in a couple we know pointed out to the husband on the day after his retirement that 'they'd married for better or worse, but not for lunch!'.
He'd been into computing very early, worked for one of the big companies and consequently did a lot of travelling. Having him home all day needed quite an adjustment.
And he doesn't like golf!

Retirement does mean getting under each other's feet all day but I wonder if there is also a touch of the lottery winners' curse, that now they can afford to do (or have time to do) whatever they want, they discover what they want is two different things. A friend mentioned the other day that he only holidays abroad because his wife likes to; if they could suddenly afford a year cruising round the world, would their marriage last?

I mentioned the U3a. We both belong, belong to quite a few interest groups, but only both belong to one, a Lunch Group where we work round the local pubs etc once per month.

Only taking one month to get round all the local pubs, etc sounds like a full-time job!!

Nigelb said:

AlastairMeeks said:

OldKingCole said:

AlastairMeeks said:

MarqueeMark said:

Pension-pot holders across the land will remember this day as a national tragedy.

Enjoy Next Phase of Life. I hop your partner is looking forward to it too.

He’s threatening to go back to work.

The wife in a couple we know pointed out to the husband on the day after his retirement that 'they'd married for better or worse, but not for lunch!'.
He'd been into computing very early, worked for one of the big companies and consequently did a lot of travelling. Having him home all day needed quite an adjustment.
And he doesn't like golf!

I’ve more or less been pointed to the outside studio and told to make that my daytime residence. As for what I shall do, I have ideas but I’m also considering suggestions.

Now you’ve given up on the law, you can put your obvious skills to some good use...

But seriously, best wishes with whatever you come up with.

One thing you quickly learn is that the reason you hadn’t done whilst working a fair few items on the wishlist in your mind wasn’t lack of time, after all.

Anyone else surprised how well Dawn Butler is doing in CLP nominations? She`s in strong second place. Anything to read into this?

DecrepiterJohnL said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

DecrepiterJohnL said:

The Sun is giving away 100 commemorative 50p coins. Has Rupert cut the budget?

Are the gold ones?

Good question. I was going by the picture at the top of this thread.

No.
SUN readers can mark this momentous day with a FREE Brexit souvenir – a commemorative 50p, worth £10.

That’s right! We are giving away 100 of the brilliant uncirculated coins to celebrate the UK’s historic departure from the European Union.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10860045/sun-readers-free-brexit-souvenir-50p-coin/

Rupe splashing out a grand? Our Brexity cup of something not German or French runneth over.

Gallowgate said:

https://twitter.com/keir_starmer/status/1223148949663637504?s=21

Starmer pushes for 'a close economic relationship with the EU that protects jobs and pushes for co operation in other fields.'

Stocky said:

Anyone else surprised how well Dawn Butler is doing in CLP nominations? She`s in strong second place. Anything to read into this?

Burgon is buggered.....

HYUFD said:

Compare the Mail headline 'A new dawn for Britain' and the Express headline 'Yes we did it!' and the Sun headline 'Our time has come' and the Telegraph making Boris look Churchillian, to the Guardian headline 'small island' and the I headline 'UK's leap into the unknown' while the Mirror largely ignores it

What’s your point?

AlastairMeeks said:

Casino_Royale said:

AlastairMeeks said:

Casino_Royale said:

AlastairMeeks said:

OldKingCole said:

AlastairMeeks said:

Meeksit means Meeksit. I suppose today is as good a day as any to announce that I’m retiring on 30 April.

I picked 30th April too. That was 17 years ago though. The other big event for us that day was that elder son's first child was born that day. Now he's having driving lessons at a 'cardrome' and looking forward to being on the road properly. He and I were messaging each other about automatic cars last night, as per the discussion where.

30 April is a convenient date for me - it’s my firm’s year end.

In all seriousness, congratulations Alastair. Very well deserved.

You must have done well to be retiring at 52 (?) or something like that?!

Thank you. Yes, 52, but I’ve always wanted to try to use some different skills and this gives me the opportunity to do so.

My pleasure.

Any thoughts on how you might do that which you’d care to share? What are you considering?

I’m going to be slightly coy there. I’m looking out for difficult things that no one wants to do but everyone wants to have done rather than enjoyable things that there are no shortage of volunteers for.

Ah, so you’re going to be working for Dom Cummings to sort Brexit out! It all makes sense now.

HYUFD said:

Compare the Mail headline 'A new dawn for Britain' and the Express headline 'Yes we did it!' and the Sun headline 'Our time has come' and the Telegraph making Boris look Churchillian, to the Guardian headline 'small island' and the I headline 'UK's leap into the unknown' while the Mirror largely ignores it

The Mail, the Express and the Telegraph are selling to mad old codgers. Of course they’re going to go loopy today.

MarqueeMark said:

Stocky said:

Anyone else surprised how well Dawn Butler is doing in CLP nominations? She`s in strong second place. Anything to read into this?

Burgon is buggered.....

I`ve just placed a few quid on Butler at a massive 140/1 just in case Rayner blows up.