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Just trying to get the most value for money.DecrepiterJohnL said:
It is supposed to be law. @Gallowgate must have wandered into the wrong lecture by mistake. Which is geography.Pulpstar said:
Err ? This is accounting not calculus !DecrepiterJohnL said:
No idea. Intuitively it sounds like a curve and they are asking about inflection points.0 -
We hold many more cards now because we have a strong government which really is prepared to go to No Deal, in the belief the economic pain can assuaged by patriotic fervor - and, more importantly, they have five years before the next election.Gallowgate said:
Are you seriously still clinging onto the “we hold all the cards” nonsense?Byronic said:
Lol. You think the EU will allow a No Deal. They’re already talking about the EU asking for a transition even if we don’t want oneTheScreamingEagles said:
Bless, you're forgetting that No Deal hasn't gone away.Byronic said:I was right. Brexit is dropping down the agenda. I was ridiculed for this notion, mainly by ultra Remainers, but it’s happening. No one cares. Everyone is bored. Let the geeks sort it out
After we actually leave on Jan 31 it will vanish entirely as a first order issue
There will be a bare bones deal on goods. Just enough. It will be sellotape and glue. And the city will get temporary rights as the eu panics about access to liquidity
They expected us to blink and revote, Just like every other country. We didn’t. It’s a different game now, and over time a reasonable deal will be done.
Do you seriously think that the everyday person won’t notice any negatives between what we have now and a “bare bones trade deal on goods”?
In that respect, game theory says it really is the EU which is more likely to fold. Or at least come to a much more friendly compromise than before .
Get over it, Remainer losers.0 -
Very important for keeping the vital tabloid sector going. Where would we be without the Mail 'n' Express?Dura_Ace said:
WTF is a royal duty though? The country doesn't actually need any of them to do anything.Gallowgate said:@Cyclefree they could fulfil some royal duties in return for some royal funding?
(still in the EU probably)0 -
Scotland is no longer thought a secure route.Animal_pb said:
Well, there's a big ol' bridge from Scotland to NI in the pipeline, right?Foxy said:
Are the official receivers expanding? Or is it Customs booths that you have in mind?Gallowgate said:
There might be some sweet new buildings to officially open during the Brexit boom!Dura_Ace said:
WTF is a royal duty though? The country doesn't actually need any of them to do anything.Gallowgate said:@Cyclefree they could fulfil some royal duties in return for some royal funding?
The bridge (except it is a tunnel now) will go from NW England (Workington?) to Belfast via the Isle of Man. So says the Sunday Times.
Great work, Nicola.0 -
The more referendums and elections there are, the more money we can make!MarqueeMark said:
Would it be a once in a generation referendum, Clive?TheGreenMachine said:
Did he actually say that?GIN1138 said:I see weirdo Clive Lewis has decided to open his leadership campaign calling for a referendum on the monarchy.
Just what the country is demanding right now!!!!! This will really get Labour back on track after their worst defeat since 1935.
Well done Clive!
Monarchy referendum how good would that be?0 -
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Maybe we should standardise it to the reign of a monarch? Say QE2?TheGreenMachine said:@MarqueeMark
There's no real answer to how long or short a generation is.1 -
Fuxake.
I'm not sure if Brexit has sent the nation demented or it's just a symptom of an underlying long term condition.
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No Deal WILL have gone away because we will have with a WA/transitional period. Until about Nov, this was the definition of No Deal.TheScreamingEagles said:
Bless, you're forgetting that No Deal hasn't gone away.Byronic said:I was right. Brexit is dropping down the agenda. I was ridiculed for this notion, mainly by ultra Remainers, but it’s happening. No one cares. Everyone is bored. Let the geeks sort it out
After we actually leave on Jan 31 it will vanish entirely as a first order issue
Interesting to see that some have decided to re-draw the definition to keep the negativity going.
The public have little interest of the technicalities of what happens after 31/1. We shall have left = referendum honoured.
I voted remain, and agree that failing to achieve a trade deal is possible and that this would be bad. But people were warned about this in various ways which were dismissed as "scare stories" and people voted to leave anyway.
As someone clever once said: democracy is the theory that people should be given what they want. And they must be given it good and hard.1 -
LOL! Suspect there will be quite a few people who take one look at this and think H is a very lucky boy!Theuniondivvie said:Fuxake.
I'm not sure if Brexit has sent the nation demented or it's just a symptom of an underlying long term condition.
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Sefridges Shortbread sales say Harry & Meghan more popular than Wills & Kate #smallsample
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No as you could have 3 generations or more in that time.MarqueeMark said:
Maybe we should standardise it to the reign of a monarch? Say QE2?TheGreenMachine said:@MarqueeMark
There's no real answer to how long or short a generation is.0 -
@MarqueeMark
If a person was born @ 11.58 pm on new year's Eve 1989 and another was born at 12.02 am new year's day 1990, would you consider them the same or different generation?0 -
Steyer is offering a centrist challenge to Biden for moderate and conservative voters in more conservative states like South Carolina, in liberal states like California and early voting states like Iowa and New Hampshire he is nowhere.
Nationally he also trails Bloomberg who has now overtaken Buttigieg with Sanders taking the lead
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An English link makes more sense - otherwise you are just adding hours of additional driving with little actually benefit for the economies those lorries drive throughMarqueeMark said:
Scotland is no longer thought a secure route.Animal_pb said:
Well, there's a big ol' bridge from Scotland to NI in the pipeline, right?Foxy said:
Are the official receivers expanding? Or is it Customs booths that you have in mind?Gallowgate said:
There might be some sweet new buildings to officially open during the Brexit boom!Dura_Ace said:
WTF is a royal duty though? The country doesn't actually need any of them to do anything.Gallowgate said:@Cyclefree they could fulfil some royal duties in return for some royal funding?
The bridge (except it is a tunnel now) will go from NW England (Workington?) to Belfast via the Isle of Man. So says the Sunday Times.
Great work, Nicola.
The drive to Stranraer is pretty but does take a long time.0 -
Yes, 69% of voters back the monarchy but republicans tend to be Labour voters so Lewis knows his target audience in the leadership raceGIN1138 said:I see weirdo Clive Lewis has decided to open his leadership campaign calling for a referendum on the monarchy.
Just what the country is demanding right now!!!!! This will really get Labour back on track after their worst defeat since 1935.
Well done Clive!
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2018/05/18/who-are-monarchists0 -
Narrator: neither a bridge or a tunnel came to pass.eek said:
An English link makes more sense - otherwise you are just adding hours of additional driving with little actually benefit for the economies those lorries drive throughMarqueeMark said:
Scotland is no longer thought a secure route.Animal_pb said:
Well, there's a big ol' bridge from Scotland to NI in the pipeline, right?Foxy said:
Are the official receivers expanding? Or is it Customs booths that you have in mind?Gallowgate said:
There might be some sweet new buildings to officially open during the Brexit boom!Dura_Ace said:
WTF is a royal duty though? The country doesn't actually need any of them to do anything.Gallowgate said:@Cyclefree they could fulfil some royal duties in return for some royal funding?
The bridge (except it is a tunnel now) will go from NW England (Workington?) to Belfast via the Isle of Man. So says the Sunday Times.
Great work, Nicola.
The drive to Stranraer is pretty but does take a long time.0 -
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Yep - it's too much money for not enough benefit - still it's probably cheaper than HS2 and would benefit far more people.Theuniondivvie said:
Narrator: neither a bridge or a tunnel came to pass.eek said:
An English link makes more sense - otherwise you are just adding hours of additional driving with little actually benefit for the economies those lorries drive throughMarqueeMark said:
Scotland is no longer thought a secure route.Animal_pb said:
Well, there's a big ol' bridge from Scotland to NI in the pipeline, right?Foxy said:
Are the official receivers expanding? Or is it Customs booths that you have in mind?Gallowgate said:
There might be some sweet new buildings to officially open during the Brexit boom!Dura_Ace said:
WTF is a royal duty though? The country doesn't actually need any of them to do anything.Gallowgate said:@Cyclefree they could fulfil some royal duties in return for some royal funding?
The bridge (except it is a tunnel now) will go from NW England (Workington?) to Belfast via the Isle of Man. So says the Sunday Times.
Great work, Nicola.
The drive to Stranraer is pretty but does take a long time.0 -
This is very dispiriting, works out £240 per hour, they should be charging more
https://twitter.com/JohnHyde1982/status/1215609893572546560
https://twitter.com/JohnHyde1982/status/12156104088218214400 -
This will be no.1 next week, lol.timmo said:0 -
It has , the Withdrawal Agreement has passed the Commons, when we agree the trade deal is a different matterTheScreamingEagles said:
Bless, you're forgetting that No Deal hasn't gone away.Byronic said:I was right. Brexit is dropping down the agenda. I was ridiculed for this notion, mainly by ultra Remainers, but it’s happening. No one cares. Everyone is bored. Let the geeks sort it out
After we actually leave on Jan 31 it will vanish entirely as a first order issue0 -
God, at least I wasn't wrong as the Leaver SeanT who offered a bet of £10,000 that the UK would have left the EU by the end of 2019.Byronic said:SERIOUS QUESTION FOR THE MODS
Why do we even allow these dribbling idiot Remainers like TSE and Topping and Gallowgate to stay on the site?
Remainers have been absolutely wrong about everything since about ten years before the referendum. They thought constantly ignoring the people on the EU would be a good idea because they could keep doing it. Then when they had to stop doing it they called a botched referendum, and they managed to lose an unloseable referendum because, again, they are idiots and morons. And arrogant to boot.
Then they got 99% of their predictions for economic armageddon wrong after Brexit. Then they said there should be a 2nd referendum, shamelessly trashing British democracy, which makes them scum as well as crass. Then they organised the world's worst experiment in tactical anti-Brexit voting which delivered the Brexiteering prime minister the biggest majority since Tamurlane the Great
Then they said Brexit could never actually happen just because because because, and they ended up beating a trapped fox to death with a fucking baseball bat while wearing their wife's undersized silk kimono.
Really. We have heard enough from the Remainers to last us several decades. Their brains are made of ten day old Tescos hummus and their moral sense cannot be spotted by the Hubble Telescope.
Enough. Enough now. Let these droning fools be gone from this place.0 -
They are apparently still keeping Frogmore for the time being and titles and it was they who asked to step back the Queen did not ask them toTheScreamingEagles said:
Still gets paid to do bugger all for the Royal Family something the Queen apparently won’t do for the Sussexes.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Hasn't Andy been effectively banished? No duties; no charity work; not even a royal mince pie at Christmas.TheScreamingEagles said:Interesting the Queen has come down much harder on the Duke and Duchess of Sussex than she has on the friend of the nonce Prince Andrew.
That tells you everything about the Queen’s moral fibre.0 -
SeanT should have refused to pay in on the very honourable basis that he was right in principle, and we are leaving, and very soon, he was merely out by a month. Of course, I was merely lurking at the time, but AIUI williamglenn's firm position was that Brexit would NEVER HAPPENTheScreamingEagles said:
God, at least I wasn't wrong as the Leaver SeanT who offered a bet of £10,000 that the UK would have left the EU by the end of 2019.Byronic said:SERIOUS QUESTION FOR THE MODS
Why do we even allow these dribbling idiot Remainers like TSE and Topping and Gallowgate to stay on the site?
Remainers have been absolutely wrong about everything since about ten years before the referendum. They thought constantly ignoring the people on the EU would be a good idea because they could keep doing it. Then when they had to stop doing it they called a botched referendum, and they managed to lose an unloseable referendum because, again, they are idiots and morons. And arrogant to boot.
Then they got 99% of their predictions for economic armageddon wrong after Brexit. Then they said there should be a 2nd referendum, shamelessly trashing British democracy, which makes them scum as well as crass. Then they organised the world's worst experiment in tactical anti-Brexit voting which delivered the Brexiteering prime minister the biggest majority since Tamurlane the Great
Then they said Brexit could never actually happen just because because because, and they ended up beating a trapped fox to death with a fucking baseball bat while wearing their wife's undersized silk kimono.
Really. We have heard enough from the Remainers to last us several decades. Their brains are made of ten day old Tescos hummus and their moral sense cannot be spotted by the Hubble Telescope.
Enough. Enough now. Let these droning fools be gone from this place.0 -
Oh, it probaby will, just so Boris can say to the Scots "let's see what you could have won....." - as Ireland gets a massive influx of tourists driving in from Europe whilst Scotland gets to see lichen grow on its roads.Theuniondivvie said:
Narrator: neither a bridge or a tunnel came to pass.eek said:
An English link makes more sense - otherwise you are just adding hours of additional driving with little actually benefit for the economies those lorries drive throughMarqueeMark said:
Scotland is no longer thought a secure route.Animal_pb said:
Well, there's a big ol' bridge from Scotland to NI in the pipeline, right?Foxy said:
Are the official receivers expanding? Or is it Customs booths that you have in mind?Gallowgate said:
There might be some sweet new buildings to officially open during the Brexit boom!Dura_Ace said:
WTF is a royal duty though? The country doesn't actually need any of them to do anything.Gallowgate said:@Cyclefree they could fulfil some royal duties in return for some royal funding?
The bridge (except it is a tunnel now) will go from NW England (Workington?) to Belfast via the Isle of Man. So says the Sunday Times.
Great work, Nicola.
The drive to Stranraer is pretty but does take a long time.
A majority of 80 means he can get away with spending tens of billions just to troll Nicola Sturgeon.1 -
Mr. Byronic, you're aware that Mr. Eagles (to mention one of the three) does a lot of work keeping the site going, right?
If people who are wrong often were banished there'd be a vacuum instead of a site.0 -
There are many reasons to be banned from PB. One of them might be the failure to pay a gambling debt made between two PBers.Byronic said:SERIOUS QUESTION FOR THE MODS
Why do we even allow these dribbling idiot Remainers like TSE and Topping and Gallowgate to stay on the site?
Remainers have been absolutely wrong about everything since about ten years before the referendum. They thought constantly ignoring the people on the EU would be a good idea because they could keep doing it. Then when they had to stop doing it they called a botched referendum, and they managed to lose this unloseable referendum because, again, they are idiots and morons. And arrogant to boot.
Then they got 99% of their predictions for economic armageddon wrong after Brexit. Then they said there should be a 2nd referendum, shamelessly trashing British democracy, which makes them scum as well as crass. Then they organised the world's worst experiment in tactical anti-Brexit voting which delivered the Brexiteering prime minister the biggest majority since Tamurlane the Great
Then they said Brexit could never actually happen just because because because, and soon after that they ended up beating a trapped fox to death with a fucking baseball bat while wearing their wife's undersized silk kimono.
Really. We have heard enough from the Remainers to last us several decades. Their brains are made of ten day old Tescos hummus and their moral sense cannot be spotted by the Hubble Telescope.
Enough. Enough now. Let these droning fools be gone from this place.
[Ps you do know @TheScreamingEagles is one of the people who run the site, yes?]0 -
You should know as a lawyer that no lawyer would ever advise a client to do what you are suggesting. There are standard legal ways in which, if he has relevant evidence, the US courts can obtain such evidence. The most sensible thing for Andrew to do is to get himself the best possible US and UK legal advice and do what they advise.TheScreamingEagles said:
Sent him to America to co-operate with the law enforcement agencies & civil claims investigating Epstein and not let him back in the UK until everyone was happy that he had cooperated.tlg86 said:
Go on then, tell us what she should have done with Andrew.TheScreamingEagles said:Interesting the Queen has come down much harder on the Duke and Duchess of Sussex than she has on the friend of the nonce Prince Andrew.
That tells you everything about the Queen’s moral fibre.
HMQ, more probably, Charles, has rightly retired Andrew from all royal duties, closed his office, cancelled his birthday party and cut him out of invitations to state/similar dinners at the Palace. Very sensible. But it is worth remembering that he has not been charged with anything and that a US court removed a claim against him in a civil action. He may be a moron but he too like the rest of us is innocent until proven guilty.1 -
That just makes it even more ridiculous. Remainers shouldn't be in charge of anything. They fuck up everything they touch, from the original referendum, to the aftermath when they could have got EEA, to the stupidity of the People's Vote, to completely bungling the election and handling it to Boris, to killing that fox while sexually aroused in a tiny lady's kimono THEN TWEETING ABOUT ITMorris_Dancer said:Mr. Byronic, you're aware that Mr. Eagles (to mention one of the three) does a lot of work keeping the site going, right?
If people who are wrong often were banished there'd be a vacuum instead of a site.
Remainers should be kept ten yards from any heavy machinery. They'd kill us all.0 -
I said that Brexit would never actually happen, but barring some last minute act of God, it will happen at end of the month.Byronic said:SERIOUS QUESTION FOR THE MODS
Why do we even allow these dribbling idiot Remainers like TSE and Topping and Gallowgate to stay on the site?
Remainers have been absolutely wrong about everything since about ten years before the referendum. They thought constantly ignoring the people on the EU would be a good idea because they could keep doing it. Then when they had to stop doing it they called a botched referendum, and they managed to lose this unloseable referendum because, again, they are idiots and morons. And arrogant to boot.
Then they got 99% of their predictions for economic armageddon wrong after Brexit. Then they said there should be a 2nd referendum, shamelessly trashing British democracy, which makes them scum as well as crass. Then they organised the world's worst experiment in tactical anti-Brexit voting which delivered the Brexiteering prime minister the biggest majority since Tamurlane the Great
Then they said Brexit could never actually happen just because because because, and soon after that they ended up beating a trapped fox to death with a fucking baseball bat while wearing their wife's undersized silk kimono.
Really. We have heard enough from the Remainers to last us several decades. Their brains are made of ten day old Tescos hummus and their moral sense cannot be spotted by the Hubble Telescope.
Enough. Enough now. Let these droning fools be gone from this place.
So, I was wrong.
I don't recall killing any foxes though.0 -
"Then they got 99% of their predictions for economic armageddon wrong after Brexit."Byronic said:SERIOUS QUESTION FOR THE MODS
Why do we even allow these dribbling idiot Remainers like TSE and Topping and Gallowgate to stay on the site?
Remainers have been absolutely wrong about everything since about ten years before the referendum. They thought constantly ignoring the people on the EU would be a good idea because they could keep doing it. Then when they had to stop doing it they called a botched referendum, and they managed to lose an unloseable referendum because, again, they are idiots and morons. And arrogant to boot.
Then they got 99% of their predictions for economic armageddon wrong after Brexit. Then they said there should be a 2nd referendum, shamelessly trashing British democracy, which makes them scum as well as crass. Then they organised the world's worst experiment in tactical anti-Brexit voting which delivered the Brexiteering prime minister the biggest majority since Tamurlane the Great
Then they said Brexit could never actually happen just because because because, and they ended up beating a trapped fox to death with a fucking baseball bat while wearing their wife's undersized silk kimono.
Really. We have heard enough from the Remainers to last us several decades. Their brains are made of ten day old Tescos hummus and their moral sense cannot be spotted by the Hubble Telescope.
Enough. Enough now. Let these droning fools be gone from this place.
Brexit hasn`t happened yet (quite) - so I`d reserve judgement on that. A better argument is to say that people decided to leave the EU whether or not there proved to be negative economic consequences.
It was, at root, an emotional and identity-driven decision by leavers (sovereignty, national identity), but what is less discussed is that the remainers (including those that you deride) feel as emotional about staying a member of the EU as do those that want to leave - that`s why they keep banging on about it and can`t let go of the negativity.
My remain vote was based on pragmatic pro-and-con reasoning and I don`t understand people who voted remain because they are attached to a governing body as some remainers clearly are (esp in my party, the libdems). It seems odd to me. But the fact is that many ARE emotionally attached to the EU and this needs to be respected.0 -
On the upside, bathing in Remainer Tears is even better than asses milk.Byronic said:SERIOUS QUESTION FOR THE MODS
Why do we even allow these dribbling idiot Remainers like TSE and Topping and Gallowgate to stay on the site?
Remainers have been absolutely wrong about everything since about ten years before the referendum. They thought constantly ignoring the people on the EU would be a good idea because they could keep doing it. Then when they had to stop doing it they called a botched referendum, and they managed to lose this unloseable referendum because, again, they are idiots and morons. And arrogant to boot.
Then they got 99% of their predictions for economic armageddon wrong after Brexit. Then they said there should be a 2nd referendum, shamelessly trashing British democracy, which makes them scum as well as crass. Then they organised the world's worst experiment in tactical anti-Brexit voting which delivered the Brexiteering prime minister the biggest majority since Tamurlane the Great
Then they said Brexit could never actually happen just because because because, and soon after that they ended up beating a trapped fox to death with a fucking baseball bat while wearing their wife's undersized silk kimono.
Really. We have heard enough from the Remainers to last us several decades. Their brains are made of ten day old Tescos hummus and their moral sense cannot be spotted by the Hubble Telescope.
Enough. Enough now. Let these droning fools be gone from this place.
Cleopatra, see my complexion and DESPAIR!0 -
Has he not paid it? Tut tut. That is bad. No doubt Mr Glenn will be on here to tell us?viewcode said:
There are many reasons to be banned from PB. One of them might be the failure to pay a gambling debt made between two PBers.Byronic said:SERIOUS QUESTION FOR THE MODS
Why do we even allow these dribbling idiot Remainers like TSE and Topping and Gallowgate to stay on the site?
Remainers have been absolutely wrong about everything since about ten years before the referendum. They thought constantly ignoring the people on the EU would be a good idea because they could keep doing it. Then when they had to stop doing it they called a botched referendum, and they managed to lose this unloseable referendum because, again, they are idiots and morons. And arrogant to boot.
Then they got 99% of their predictions for economic armageddon wrong after Brexit. Then they said there should be a 2nd referendum, shamelessly trashing British democracy, which makes them scum as well as crass. Then they organised the world's worst experiment in tactical anti-Brexit voting which delivered the Brexiteering prime minister the biggest majority since Tamurlane the Great
Then they said Brexit could never actually happen just because because because, and soon after that they ended up beating a trapped fox to death with a fucking baseball bat while wearing their wife's undersized silk kimono.
Really. We have heard enough from the Remainers to last us several decades. Their brains are made of ten day old Tescos hummus and their moral sense cannot be spotted by the Hubble Telescope.
Enough. Enough now. Let these droning fools be gone from this place.
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BTW those who think that no-one will care about Brexit after the end of the month should listen to the section in this morning’s Today programme about fishing - both the expectations of Britain’s fishing community and those of EU fishermen, who want nothing to change (ha!) - as well as Ursula van der Leyen who seems intent on using “sequencing” to make fishing the same key issue as NI was in the withdrawal talks.0
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I see we are back to using 'yards' rather than 'metres' now we are proud, independent nation again.Byronic said:
That just makes it even more ridiculous. Remainers shouldn't be in charge of anything. They fuck up everything they touch, from the original referendum, to the aftermath when they could have got EEA, to the stupidity of the People's Vote, to completely bungling the election and handling it to Boris, to killing that fox while sexually aroused in a tiny lady's kimono THEN TWEETING ABOUT ITMorris_Dancer said:Mr. Byronic, you're aware that Mr. Eagles (to mention one of the three) does a lot of work keeping the site going, right?
If people who are wrong often were banished there'd be a vacuum instead of a site.
Remainers should be kept ten yards from any heavy machinery. They'd kill us all.0 -
The Royals should set high standards.Cyclefree said:
You should know as a lawyer that no lawyer would ever advise a client to do what you are suggesting. There are standard legal ways in which, if he has relevant evidence, the US courts can obtain such evidence. The most sensible thing for Andrew to do is to get himself the best possible US and UK legal advice and do what they advise.TheScreamingEagles said:
Sent him to America to co-operate with the law enforcement agencies & civil claims investigating Epstein and not let him back in the UK until everyone was happy that he had cooperated.tlg86 said:
Go on then, tell us what she should have done with Andrew.TheScreamingEagles said:Interesting the Queen has come down much harder on the Duke and Duchess of Sussex than she has on the friend of the nonce Prince Andrew.
That tells you everything about the Queen’s moral fibre.
HMQ, more probably, Charles, has rightly retired Andrew from all royal duties, closed his office, cancelled his birthday party and cut him out of invitations to state/similar dinners at the Palace. Very sensible. But it is worth remembering that he has not been charged with anything and that a US court removed a claim against him in a civil action. He may be a moron but he too like the rest of us is innocent until proven guilty.
Theoretically can Prince Andrew be extradited to the United States of America?
Can Royals be extradited? I know our treaty with the Americans is pretty much one sided but still.
I wanna say sovereign immunity but that's not right, I do recall that nobody cannot be arrested on the grounds of a royal palace, even if the monarch isn't present.0 -
Marquee_Mark, the GE was almost month ago now, are you EVER going to be just a little bit magnanimous in victory?MarqueeMark said:
On the upside, bathing in Remainer Tears is even better than asses milk.Byronic said:SERIOUS QUESTION FOR THE MODS
Why do we even allow these dribbling idiot Remainers like TSE and Topping and Gallowgate to stay on the site?
Remainers have been absolutely wrong about everything since about ten years before the referendum. They thought constantly ignoring the people on the EU would be a good idea because they could keep doing it. Then when they had to stop doing it they called a botched referendum, and they managed to lose this unloseable referendum because, again, they are idiots and morons. And arrogant to boot.
Then they got 99% of their predictions for economic armageddon wrong after Brexit. Then they said there should be a 2nd referendum, shamelessly trashing British democracy, which makes them scum as well as crass. Then they organised the world's worst experiment in tactical anti-Brexit voting which delivered the Brexiteering prime minister the biggest majority since Tamurlane the Great
Then they said Brexit could never actually happen just because because because, and soon after that they ended up beating a trapped fox to death with a fucking baseball bat while wearing their wife's undersized silk kimono.
Really. We have heard enough from the Remainers to last us several decades. Their brains are made of ten day old Tescos hummus and their moral sense cannot be spotted by the Hubble Telescope.
Enough. Enough now. Let these droning fools be gone from this place.
Cleopatra, see my complexion and DESPAIR!0 -
Give me a year or so and I'll let you know.Stocky said:
Marquee_Mark, the GE was almost month ago now, are you EVER going to be just a little bit magnanimous in victory?MarqueeMark said:
On the upside, bathing in Remainer Tears is even better than asses milk.Byronic said:SERIOUS QUESTION FOR THE MODS
Why do we even allow these dribbling idiot Remainers like TSE and Topping and Gallowgate to stay on the site?
Remainers have been absolutely wrong about everything since about ten years before the referendum. They thought constantly ignoring the people on the EU would be a good idea because they could keep doing it. Then when they had to stop doing it they called a botched referendum, and they managed to lose this unloseable referendum because, again, they are idiots and morons. And arrogant to boot.
Then they got 99% of their predictions for economic armageddon wrong after Brexit. Then they said there should be a 2nd referendum, shamelessly trashing British democracy, which makes them scum as well as crass. Then they organised the world's worst experiment in tactical anti-Brexit voting which delivered the Brexiteering prime minister the biggest majority since Tamurlane the Great
Then they said Brexit could never actually happen just because because because, and soon after that they ended up beating a trapped fox to death with a fucking baseball bat while wearing their wife's undersized silk kimono.
Really. We have heard enough from the Remainers to last us several decades. Their brains are made of ten day old Tescos hummus and their moral sense cannot be spotted by the Hubble Telescope.
Enough. Enough now. Let these droning fools be gone from this place.
Cleopatra, see my complexion and DESPAIR!1 -
I weep not for myself, but for my country.MarqueeMark said:
On the upside, bathing in Remainer Tears is even better than asses milk.Byronic said:SERIOUS QUESTION FOR THE MODS
Why do we even allow these dribbling idiot Remainers like TSE and Topping and Gallowgate to stay on the site?
Remainers have been absolutely wrong about everything since about ten years before the referendum. They thought constantly ignoring the people on the EU would be a good idea because they could keep doing it. Then when they had to stop doing it they called a botched referendum, and they managed to lose this unloseable referendum because, again, they are idiots and morons. And arrogant to boot.
Then they got 99% of their predictions for economic armageddon wrong after Brexit. Then they said there should be a 2nd referendum, shamelessly trashing British democracy, which makes them scum as well as crass. Then they organised the world's worst experiment in tactical anti-Brexit voting which delivered the Brexiteering prime minister the biggest majority since Tamurlane the Great
Then they said Brexit could never actually happen just because because because, and soon after that they ended up beating a trapped fox to death with a fucking baseball bat while wearing their wife's undersized silk kimono.
Really. We have heard enough from the Remainers to last us several decades. Their brains are made of ten day old Tescos hummus and their moral sense cannot be spotted by the Hubble Telescope.
Enough. Enough now. Let these droning fools be gone from this place.
Cleopatra, see my complexion and DESPAIR!0 -
Ive got a feeling this comment wont age well.Byronic said:
That just makes it even more ridiculous. Remainers shouldn't be in charge of anything. They fuck up everything they touch, from the original referendum, to the aftermath when they could have got EEA, to the stupidity of the People's Vote, to completely bungling the election and handling it to Boris, to killing that fox while sexually aroused in a tiny lady's kimono THEN TWEETING ABOUT ITMorris_Dancer said:Mr. Byronic, you're aware that Mr. Eagles (to mention one of the three) does a lot of work keeping the site going, right?
If people who are wrong often were banished there'd be a vacuum instead of a site.
Remainers should be kept ten yards from any heavy machinery. They'd kill us all.1 -
And tell that to t'youth of today, and they'll never believe you.
https://twitter.com/ProfTimBale/status/12156208158840340490 -
This was the weirdest part of the Brexit vote. And to be fair on the leave side too, like yourself I weighed it up and decided on balance (7 out of 10 perhaps) that we'd be better off remaining in.Stocky said:People who voted remain because they are attached to a governing body as some remainers clearly are
But massive numbers of people voted for either leave or remain because they IDENTIFIED as anti or pro EU on an emotional level. I didn't see the extent of that coming down the tracks and thought the arguments around HOW we left (And it seemed unconsciable that we wouldn't after the referendum) might get more traction than the likes of Steve Bray yelling STOOOOOOOOOOOP BREXIT every 30 seconds outside parliament would.2 -
Will just as likely go from cheerful hubris to bitter and twisted without an intervening stage.Stocky said:
Marquee_Mark, the GE was almost month ago now, are you EVER going to be just a little bit magnanimous in victory?MarqueeMark said:
On the upside, bathing in Remainer Tears is even better than asses milk.Byronic said:SERIOUS QUESTION FOR THE MODS
Why do we even allow these dribbling idiot Remainers like TSE and Topping and Gallowgate to stay on the site?
Remainers have been absolutely wrong about everything since about ten years before the referendum. They thought constantly ignoring the people on the EU would be a good idea because they could keep doing it. Then when they had to stop doing it they called a botched referendum, and they managed to lose this unloseable referendum because, again, they are idiots and morons. And arrogant to boot.
Then they got 99% of their predictions for economic armageddon wrong after Brexit. Then they said there should be a 2nd referendum, shamelessly trashing British democracy, which makes them scum as well as crass. Then they organised the world's worst experiment in tactical anti-Brexit voting which delivered the Brexiteering prime minister the biggest majority since Tamurlane the Great
Then they said Brexit could never actually happen just because because because, and soon after that they ended up beating a trapped fox to death with a fucking baseball bat while wearing their wife's undersized silk kimono.
Really. We have heard enough from the Remainers to last us several decades. Their brains are made of ten day old Tescos hummus and their moral sense cannot be spotted by the Hubble Telescope.
Enough. Enough now. Let these droning fools be gone from this place.
Cleopatra, see my complexion and DESPAIR!0 -
Well, Byronic has spiced up the thread this afternoon hasn`t he/she!1
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Fair enough, BJ's consistent and successful record on infrastructure projects speaks for its self.MarqueeMark said:
Oh, it probaby will, just so Boris can say to the Scots "let's see what you could have won....." - as Ireland gets a massive influx of tourists driving in from Europe whilst Scotland gets to see lichen grow on its roads.Theuniondivvie said:
Narrator: neither a bridge or a tunnel came to pass.eek said:
An English link makes more sense - otherwise you are just adding hours of additional driving with little actually benefit for the economies those lorries drive throughMarqueeMark said:
Scotland is no longer thought a secure route.Animal_pb said:
Well, there's a big ol' bridge from Scotland to NI in the pipeline, right?Foxy said:
Are the official receivers expanding? Or is it Customs booths that you have in mind?Gallowgate said:
There might be some sweet new buildings to officially open during the Brexit boom!Dura_Ace said:
WTF is a royal duty though? The country doesn't actually need any of them to do anything.Gallowgate said:@Cyclefree they could fulfil some royal duties in return for some royal funding?
The bridge (except it is a tunnel now) will go from NW England (Workington?) to Belfast via the Isle of Man. So says the Sunday Times.
Great work, Nicola.
The drive to Stranraer is pretty but does take a long time.
A majority of 80 means he can get away with spending tens of billions just to troll Nicola Sturgeon.0 -
I’m not ashamed to admit that I identify as pro-EU on an emotional level. All I see from their side is my values. All I see on the other side is arrogance and xenophobia. It’s natural.
Weirdly this was not the case before the referendum. This has only happened afterwards.0 -
It doesn't work like that. @SeanT and @williamglenn made a bet. Both were adults with contractual competence. @SeanT lost and must pay up. I realise there are some wealthy people who have spent their lives being insulated from the effects of their bad decisions, but this is gambling and money is important. Arguing that the debt should not be paid is a bad thing. @SeanT must pay @williamglenn the money he owes him.Byronic said:
SeanT should have refused to pay in on the very honourable basis that he was right in principle, and we are leaving, and very soon, he was merely out by a month. Of course, I was merely lurking at the time, but AIUI williamglenn's firm position was that Brexit would NEVER HAPPENTheScreamingEagles said:
God, at least I wasn't wrong as the Leaver SeanT who offered a bet of £10,000 that the UK would have left the EU by the end of 2019.Byronic said:SERIOUS QUESTION FOR THE MODS
Why do we even allow these dribbling idiot Remainers like TSE and Topping and Gallowgate to stay on the site?
Remainers have been absolutely wrong about everything since about ten years before the referendum. They thought constantly ignoring the people on the EU would be a good idea because they could keep doing it. Then when they had to stop doing it they called a botched referendum, and they managed to lose an unloseable referendum because, again, they are idiots and morons. And arrogant to boot.
Then they got 99% of their predictions for economic armageddon wrong after Brexit. Then they said there should be a 2nd referendum, shamelessly trashing British democracy, which makes them scum as well as crass. Then they organised the world's worst experiment in tactical anti-Brexit voting which delivered the Brexiteering prime minister the biggest majority since Tamurlane the Great
Then they said Brexit could never actually happen just because because because, and they ended up beating a trapped fox to death with a fucking baseball bat while wearing their wife's undersized silk kimono.
Really. We have heard enough from the Remainers to last us several decades. Their brains are made of ten day old Tescos hummus and their moral sense cannot be spotted by the Hubble Telescope.
Enough. Enough now. Let these droning fools be gone from this place.1 -
Fun times. None are working class on the basis that they are obsessively worried about what class they are. Isn't that something only the middle class do?dr_spyn said:And tell that to t'youth of today, and they'll never believe you.
https://twitter.com/ProfTimBale/status/12156208158840340490 -
Let's revisit that record in a decade, huh? (Or in your speak, a couple of generations....)Theuniondivvie said:
Fair enough, BJ's consistent and successful record on infrastructure projects speaks for its self.MarqueeMark said:
Oh, it probaby will, just so Boris can say to the Scots "let's see what you could have won....." - as Ireland gets a massive influx of tourists driving in from Europe whilst Scotland gets to see lichen grow on its roads.Theuniondivvie said:
Narrator: neither a bridge or a tunnel came to pass.eek said:
An English link makes more sense - otherwise you are just adding hours of additional driving with little actually benefit for the economies those lorries drive throughMarqueeMark said:
Scotland is no longer thought a secure route.Animal_pb said:
Well, there's a big ol' bridge from Scotland to NI in the pipeline, right?Foxy said:
Are the official receivers expanding? Or is it Customs booths that you have in mind?Gallowgate said:
There might be some sweet new buildings to officially open during the Brexit boom!Dura_Ace said:
WTF is a royal duty though? The country doesn't actually need any of them to do anything.Gallowgate said:@Cyclefree they could fulfil some royal duties in return for some royal funding?
The bridge (except it is a tunnel now) will go from NW England (Workington?) to Belfast via the Isle of Man. So says the Sunday Times.
Great work, Nicola.
The drive to Stranraer is pretty but does take a long time.
A majority of 80 means he can get away with spending tens of billions just to troll Nicola Sturgeon.0 -
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Next week: Remainers should be kept two rods from any heavy machinery.rottenborough said:
I see we are back to using 'yards' rather than 'metres' now we are proud, independent nation again.Byronic said:
That just makes it even more ridiculous. Remainers shouldn't be in charge of anything. They fuck up everything they touch, from the original referendum, to the aftermath when they could have got EEA, to the stupidity of the People's Vote, to completely bungling the election and handling it to Boris, to killing that fox while sexually aroused in a tiny lady's kimono THEN TWEETING ABOUT ITMorris_Dancer said:Mr. Byronic, you're aware that Mr. Eagles (to mention one of the three) does a lot of work keeping the site going, right?
If people who are wrong often were banished there'd be a vacuum instead of a site.
Remainers should be kept ten yards from any heavy machinery. They'd kill us all.0 -
Ramsay MacDonald was probably the last working class Labour PM, unless I'm very much mistaken.kle4 said:
Fun times. None are working class on the basis that they are obsessively worried about what class they are. Isn't that something only the middle class do?dr_spyn said:And tell that to t'youth of today, and they'll never believe you.
https://twitter.com/ProfTimBale/status/12156208158840340490 -
A bet? £50 that no earth will be broken on either a bridge or a tunnel to NI during BJ's premiership.MarqueeMark said:
Let's revisit that record in a decade, huh? (Or in your speak, a couple of generations....)Theuniondivvie said:
Fair enough, BJ's consistent and successful record on infrastructure projects speaks for its self.MarqueeMark said:
Oh, it probaby will, just so Boris can say to the Scots "let's see what you could have won....." - as Ireland gets a massive influx of tourists driving in from Europe whilst Scotland gets to see lichen grow on its roads.Theuniondivvie said:
Narrator: neither a bridge or a tunnel came to pass.eek said:
An English link makes more sense - otherwise you are just adding hours of additional driving with little actually benefit for the economies those lorries drive throughMarqueeMark said:
Scotland is no longer thought a secure route.Animal_pb said:
Well, there's a big ol' bridge from Scotland to NI in the pipeline, right?Foxy said:
Are the official receivers expanding? Or is it Customs booths that you have in mind?Gallowgate said:
There might be some sweet new buildings to officially open during the Brexit boom!Dura_Ace said:
WTF is a royal duty though? The country doesn't actually need any of them to do anything.Gallowgate said:@Cyclefree they could fulfil some royal duties in return for some royal funding?
The bridge (except it is a tunnel now) will go from NW England (Workington?) to Belfast via the Isle of Man. So says the Sunday Times.
Great work, Nicola.
The drive to Stranraer is pretty but does take a long time.
A majority of 80 means he can get away with spending tens of billions just to troll Nicola Sturgeon.0 -
Boris could usefully repeal the laws on duelling.......Gallowgate said:0 -
Clive Lewis calls for Royal Family referendum
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51062770
That will get all those patriotic red-wallers back on side.3 -
John Major was the last working class Tory PM,dr_spyn said:
Ramsay MacDonald was probably the last working class Labour PM, unless I'm very much mistaken.kle4 said:
Fun times. None are working class on the basis that they are obsessively worried about what class they are. Isn't that something only the middle class do?dr_spyn said:And tell that to t'youth of today, and they'll never believe you.
https://twitter.com/ProfTimBale/status/12156208158840340490 -
Yes fishing is tricky for Boris.....And expensive possibly if the whole coast needs to be patrolled.Cyclefree said:BTW those who think that no-one will care about Brexit after the end of the month should listen to the section in this morning’s Today programme about fishing - both the expectations of Britain’s fishing community and those of EU fishermen, who want nothing to change (ha!) - as well as Ursula van der Leyen who seems intent on using “sequencing” to make fishing the same key issue as NI was in the withdrawal talks.
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If John Major is working class then so is Keir Starmer.HYUFD said:
John Major was the last working class Tory PM,dr_spyn said:
Ramsay MacDonald was probably the last working class Labour PM, unless I'm very much mistaken.kle4 said:
Fun times. None are working class on the basis that they are obsessively worried about what class they are. Isn't that something only the middle class do?dr_spyn said:And tell that to t'youth of today, and they'll never believe you.
https://twitter.com/ProfTimBale/status/12156208158840340490 -
And somewhat disapprove ?HYUFD said:0 -
As long as it is fifty Bank of England pounds and none of those pretendy debased funny-money Scottish things, I'm in......Theuniondivvie said:
A bet? £50 that no earth will be broken on either a bridge or a tunnel to NI during BJ's premiership.MarqueeMark said:
Let's revisit that record in a decade, huh? (Or in your speak, a couple of generations....)Theuniondivvie said:
Fair enough, BJ's consistent and successful record on infrastructure projects speaks for its self.MarqueeMark said:
Oh, it probaby will, just so Boris can say to the Scots "let's see what you could have won....." - as Ireland gets a massive influx of tourists driving in from Europe whilst Scotland gets to see lichen grow on its roads.Theuniondivvie said:
Narrator: neither a bridge or a tunnel came to pass.eek said:
An English link makes more sense - otherwise you are just adding hours of additional driving with little actually benefit for the economies those lorries drive throughMarqueeMark said:
Scotland is no longer thought a secure route.Animal_pb said:
Well, there's a big ol' bridge from Scotland to NI in the pipeline, right?Foxy said:
Are the official receivers expanding? Or is it Customs booths that you have in mind?Gallowgate said:
There might be some sweet new buildings to officially open during the Brexit boom!Dura_Ace said:
WTF is a royal duty though? The country doesn't actually need any of them to do anything.Gallowgate said:@Cyclefree they could fulfil some royal duties in return for some royal funding?
The bridge (except it is a tunnel now) will go from NW England (Workington?) to Belfast via the Isle of Man. So says the Sunday Times.
Great work, Nicola.
The drive to Stranraer is pretty but does take a long time.
A majority of 80 means he can get away with spending tens of billions just to troll Nicola Sturgeon.0 -
We spend x million a week on the Royal family let us spend that on the NHS instead.FrancisUrquhart said:Clive Lewis calls for Royal Family referendum
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51062770
That will get all those patriotic red-wallers back on side.0 -
Put it on the side of a golden coach.....TheScreamingEagles said:
We spend x million a week on the Royal family let us spend that on the NHS instead.FrancisUrquhart said:Clive Lewis calls for Royal Family referendum
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51062770
That will get all those patriotic red-wallers back on side.0 -
Cool. No sneaking up to Workington with a shovel mind.MarqueeMark said:
As long as it is fifty Bank of England pounds and none of those pretendy debased funny-money Scottish things, I'm in......Theuniondivvie said:
A bet? £50 that no earth will be broken on either a bridge or a tunnel to NI during BJ's premiership.MarqueeMark said:
Let's revisit that record in a decade, huh? (Or in your speak, a couple of generations....)Theuniondivvie said:
Fair enough, BJ's consistent and successful record on infrastructure projects speaks for its self.MarqueeMark said:
Oh, it probaby will, just so Boris can say to the Scots "let's see what you could have won....." - as Ireland gets a massive influx of tourists driving in from Europe whilst Scotland gets to see lichen grow on its roads.Theuniondivvie said:
Narrator: neither a bridge or a tunnel came to pass.eek said:
An English link makes more sense - otherwise you are just adding hours of additional driving with little actually benefit for the economies those lorries drive throughMarqueeMark said:
Scotland is no longer thought a secure route.Animal_pb said:
Well, there's a big ol' bridge from Scotland to NI in the pipeline, right?Foxy said:
Are the official receivers expanding? Or is it Customs booths that you have in mind?Gallowgate said:
There might be some sweet new buildings to officially open during the Brexit boom!Dura_Ace said:
WTF is a royal duty though? The country doesn't actually need any of them to do anything.Gallowgate said:@Cyclefree they could fulfil some royal duties in return for some royal funding?
The bridge (except it is a tunnel now) will go from NW England (Workington?) to Belfast via the Isle of Man. So says the Sunday Times.
Great work, Nicola.
The drive to Stranraer is pretty but does take a long time.
A majority of 80 means he can get away with spending tens of billions just to troll Nicola Sturgeon.1 -
Getting into arguments of fact with compulsive fabulists, let alone entering into wagers with them, is probably best avoided.viewcode said:
It doesn't work like that. @SeanT and @williamglenn made a bet. Both were adults with contractual competence. @SeanT lost and must pay up. I realise there are some wealthy people who have spent their lives being insulated from the effects of their bad decisions, but this is gambling and money is important. Arguing that the debt should not be paid is a bad thing. @SeanT must pay @williamglenn the money he owes him.Byronic said:
SeanT should have refused to pay in on the very honourable basis that he was right in principle, and we are leaving, and very soon, he was merely out by a month. Of course, I was merely lurking at the time, but AIUI williamglenn's firm position was that Brexit would NEVER HAPPENTheScreamingEagles said:
God, at least I wasn't wrong as the Leaver SeanT who offered a bet of £10,000 that the UK would have left the EU by the end of 2019.Byronic said:SERIOUS QUESTION FOR THE MODS
Why do we even allow these dribbling idiot Remainers like TSE and Topping and Gallowgate to stay on the site?
Remainers have been absolutely wrong about everything since about ten years before the referendum. They thought constantly ignoring the people on the EU would be a good idea because they could keep doing it. Then when they had to stop doing it they called a botched referendum, and they managed to lose an unloseable referendum because, again, they are idiots and morons. And arrogant to boot.
Then they got 99% of their predictions for economic armageddon wrong after Brexit. Then they said there should be a 2nd referendum, shamelessly trashing British democracy, which makes them scum as well as crass. Then they organised the world's worst experiment in tactical anti-Brexit voting which delivered the Brexiteering prime minister the biggest majority since Tamurlane the Great
Then they said Brexit could never actually happen just because because because, and they ended up beating a trapped fox to death with a fucking baseball bat while wearing their wife's undersized silk kimono.
Really. We have heard enough from the Remainers to last us several decades. Their brains are made of ten day old Tescos hummus and their moral sense cannot be spotted by the Hubble Telescope.
Enough. Enough now. Let these droning fools be gone from this place.
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Seriously though, the fact this total moron with zero political antenna is even in the running for the Labour party shows what a state they are in. I think he would manage to even under-perform Jezza given he thinks this is a great idea to talk about now.TheScreamingEagles said:
We spend x million a week on the Royal family let us spend that on the NHS instead.FrancisUrquhart said:Clive Lewis calls for Royal Family referendum
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51062770
That will get all those patriotic red-wallers back on side.1 -
Don't you understand the verb (momentum version)Gallowgate said:
If John Major is working class then so is Keir Starmer.HYUFD said:
John Major was the last working class Tory PM,dr_spyn said:
Ramsay MacDonald was probably the last working class Labour PM, unless I'm very much mistaken.kle4 said:
Fun times. None are working class on the basis that they are obsessively worried about what class they are. Isn't that something only the middle class do?dr_spyn said:And tell that to t'youth of today, and they'll never believe you.
https://twitter.com/ProfTimBale/status/1215620815884034049
I am working class
You are middle class scum.
He is a toff.1 -
It is of course tiny in terms of its economic contribution. But it seems to be totemic to many Brexiteers and many in the fishing industry are good at making their views known, plus some of the new Tory constituencies have fishing as one of their industries.contrarian said:
Yes fishing is tricky for Boris.....And expensive possibly if the whole coast needs to be patrolled.Cyclefree said:BTW those who think that no-one will care about Brexit after the end of the month should listen to the section in this morning’s Today programme about fishing - both the expectations of Britain’s fishing community and those of EU fishermen, who want nothing to change (ha!) - as well as Ursula van der Leyen who seems intent on using “sequencing” to make fishing the same key issue as NI was in the withdrawal talks.
Whether Boris agrees to the EU’s demands on sequencing will be an early test of whether he will stand by this Brexit constituency or sell them out, much as he did with NI.0 -
He’s an idiot. Lest we forget he was tweeting fake ICM polling in the run up to GE2017, which I helped expose. Kinda.FrancisUrquhart said:
Seriously though, the fact this total moron with zero political antenna is even in the running for the Labour party shows what a state they are in. I think he would manage to even under-perform Jezza given he thinks this is a great idea to talk about now.TheScreamingEagles said:
We spend x million a week on the Royal family let us spend that on the NHS instead.FrancisUrquhart said:Clive Lewis calls for Royal Family referendum
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51062770
That will get all those patriotic red-wallers back on side.
https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/labour-party/news/85406/labour-mp-clive-lewis-condemned-polling-chief-over0 -
Yvette Cooper and Hilary Benn have kept very quiet in the leadership contest so far. Are they on holiday?0
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You can't beat a liquid lunch on a Friday...Byronic said:SERIOUS QUESTION FOR THE MODS
Why do we even allow these dribbling idiot Remainers like TSE and Topping and Gallowgate to stay on the site?
Remainers have been absolutely wrong about everything since about ten years before the referendum. They thought constantly ignoring the people on the EU would be a good idea because they could keep doing it. Then when they had to stop doing it they called a botched referendum, and they managed to lose this unloseable referendum because, again, they are idiots and morons. And arrogant to boot.
Then they got 99% of their predictions for economic armageddon wrong after Brexit. Then they said there should be a 2nd referendum, shamelessly trashing British democracy, which makes them scum as well as crass. Then they organised the world's worst experiment in tactical anti-Brexit voting which delivered the Brexiteering prime minister the biggest majority since Tamurlane the Great
Then they said Brexit could never actually happen just because because because, and soon after that they ended up beating a trapped fox to death with a fucking baseball bat while wearing their wife's undersized silk kimono.
Really. We have heard enough from the Remainers to last us several decades. Their brains are made of ten day old Tescos hummus and their moral sense cannot be spotted by the Hubble Telescope.
Enough. Enough now. Let these droning fools be gone from this place.0 -
I favour the introduction of the holmgang. That'd shut more than a few keyboard warriors up.MarqueeMark said:
Boris could usefully repeal the laws on duelling.......Gallowgate said:0 -
By background yes he is, though as a lawyer and knight and Oxford graduate he is middle class by profession and educationGallowgate said:
If John Major is working class then so is Keir Starmer.HYUFD said:
John Major was the last working class Tory PM,dr_spyn said:
Ramsay MacDonald was probably the last working class Labour PM, unless I'm very much mistaken.kle4 said:
Fun times. None are working class on the basis that they are obsessively worried about what class they are. Isn't that something only the middle class do?dr_spyn said:And tell that to t'youth of today, and they'll never believe you.
https://twitter.com/ProfTimBale/status/12156208158840340490 -
Boris can just stuff the fishermen but then say everything is great. Who's going to challenge him?Cyclefree said:
It is of course tiny in terms of its economic contribution. But it seems to be totemic to many Brexiteers and many in the fishing industry are good at making their views known, plus some of the new Tory constituencies have fishing as one of their industries.contrarian said:
Yes fishing is tricky for Boris.....And expensive possibly if the whole coast needs to be patrolled.Cyclefree said:BTW those who think that no-one will care about Brexit after the end of the month should listen to the section in this morning’s Today programme about fishing - both the expectations of Britain’s fishing community and those of EU fishermen, who want nothing to change (ha!) - as well as Ursula van der Leyen who seems intent on using “sequencing” to make fishing the same key issue as NI was in the withdrawal talks.
Whether Boris agrees to the EU’s demands on sequencing will be an early test of whether he will stand by this Brexit constituency or sell them out, much as he did with NI.0 -
Indeed. The more I think about it, the bigger this is for Boris.Cyclefree said:
It is of course tiny in terms of its economic contribution. But it seems to be totemic to many Brexiteers and many in the fishing industry are good at making their views known, plus some of the new Tory constituencies have fishing as one of their industries.contrarian said:
Yes fishing is tricky for Boris.....And expensive possibly if the whole coast needs to be patrolled.Cyclefree said:BTW those who think that no-one will care about Brexit after the end of the month should listen to the section in this morning’s Today programme about fishing - both the expectations of Britain’s fishing community and those of EU fishermen, who want nothing to change (ha!) - as well as Ursula van der Leyen who seems intent on using “sequencing” to make fishing the same key issue as NI was in the withdrawal talks.
Whether Boris agrees to the EU’s demands on sequencing will be an early test of whether he will stand by this Brexit constituency or sell them out, much as he did with NI.0 -
Actually, no: there's a principle involved. This is not (or should not be) some upper class salon where the overindulged are overindulged. It is gambling, and I am very serious about it. @SeanT must pay @williamglenn and no arrangement of pixels on a screen or words on a page will change that fact.Nigelb said:
Getting into arguments of fact with compulsive fabulists, let alone entering into wagers with them, is probably best avoided.viewcode said:
It doesn't work like that. @SeanT and @williamglenn made a bet. Both were adults with contractual competence. @SeanT lost and must pay up. I realise there are some wealthy people who have spent their lives being insulated from the effects of their bad decisions, but this is gambling and money is important. Arguing that the debt should not be paid is a bad thing. @SeanT must pay @williamglenn the money he owes him.Byronic said:
SeanT should have refused to pay in on the very honourable basis that he was right in principle, and we are leaving, and very soon, he was merely out by a month. Of course, I was merely lurking at the time, but AIUI williamglenn's firm position was that Brexit would NEVER HAPPENTheScreamingEagles said:
God, at least I wasn't wrong as the Leaver SeanT who offered a bet of £10,000 that the UK would have left the EU by the end of 2019.Byronic said:SERIOUS QUESTION FOR THE MODS
Why do we even allow these dribbling idiot Remainers like TSE and Topping and Gallowgate to stay on the site?
Remainers have been absolutely wrong about everything since about ten years before the referendum. They thought constantly ignoring the people on the EU would be a good idea because they could keep doing it. Then when they had to stop doing it they called a botched referendum, and they managed to lose an unloseable referendum because, again, they are idiots and morons. And arrogant to boot.
Then they got 99% of their predictions for economic armageddon wrong after Brexit. Then they said there should be a 2nd referendum, shamelessly trashing British democracy, which makes them scum as well as crass. Then they organised the world's worst experiment in tactical anti-Brexit voting which delivered the Brexiteering prime minister the biggest majority since Tamurlane the Great
Then they said Brexit could never actually happen just because because because, and they ended up beating a trapped fox to death with a fucking baseball bat while wearing their wife's undersized silk kimono.
Really. We have heard enough from the Remainers to last us several decades. Their brains are made of ten day old Tescos hummus and their moral sense cannot be spotted by the Hubble Telescope.
Enough. Enough now. Let these droning fools be gone from this place.0 -
No way is it that simple.Stark_Dawning said:
Boris can just stuff the fishermen but then say everything is great. Who's going to challenge him?Cyclefree said:
It is of course tiny in terms of its economic contribution. But it seems to be totemic to many Brexiteers and many in the fishing industry are good at making their views known, plus some of the new Tory constituencies have fishing as one of their industries.contrarian said:
Yes fishing is tricky for Boris.....And expensive possibly if the whole coast needs to be patrolled.Cyclefree said:BTW those who think that no-one will care about Brexit after the end of the month should listen to the section in this morning’s Today programme about fishing - both the expectations of Britain’s fishing community and those of EU fishermen, who want nothing to change (ha!) - as well as Ursula van der Leyen who seems intent on using “sequencing” to make fishing the same key issue as NI was in the withdrawal talks.
Whether Boris agrees to the EU’s demands on sequencing will be an early test of whether he will stand by this Brexit constituency or sell them out, much as he did with NI.
Many of the new MPs in the red wall constituencies will get very restive if the fishermen are seen to be betrayed.1 -
We would have to spend it on maintaining the President and their family instead without the tourism revenue, the NHS would get zilchTheScreamingEagles said:
We spend x million a week on the Royal family let us spend that on the NHS instead.FrancisUrquhart said:Clive Lewis calls for Royal Family referendum
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51062770
That will get all those patriotic red-wallers back on side.1 -
Sweetie, sorry. I was away from the computer. If you missed me that much you could have DM'd me. Anyway I'm back. How can I help?Byronic said:SERIOUS QUESTION FOR THE MODS
Why do we even allow these dribbling idiot Remainers like TSE and Topping and Gallowgate to stay on the site?
Remainers have been absolutely wrong about everything since about ten years before the referendum. They thought constantly ignoring the people on the EU would be a good idea because they could keep doing it. Then when they had to stop doing it they called a botched referendum, and they managed to lose this unloseable referendum because, again, they are idiots and morons. And arrogant to boot.
Then they got 99% of their predictions for economic armageddon wrong after Brexit. Then they said there should be a 2nd referendum, shamelessly trashing British democracy, which makes them scum as well as crass. Then they organised the world's worst experiment in tactical anti-Brexit voting which delivered the Brexiteering prime minister the biggest majority since Tamurlane the Great
Then they said Brexit could never actually happen just because because because, and soon after that they ended up beating a trapped fox to death with a fucking baseball bat while wearing their wife's undersized silk kimono.
Really. We have heard enough from the Remainers to last us several decades. Their brains are made of ten day old Tescos hummus and their moral sense cannot be spotted by the Hubble Telescope.
Enough. Enough now. Let these droning fools be gone from this place.0 -
It's impossible to see how the fishing industry doesn't get completely shafted. They voted for their own shafting (which would happen whether or not there is any deal with the EU), apparently on the ludicrous basis that they want the EU to keep taking their fish whilst locking out EU fishermen from the British waters for which they've already paid for permits.Cyclefree said:It is of course tiny in terms of its economic contribution. But it seems to be totemic to many Brexiteers and many in the fishing industry are good at making their views known, plus some of the new Tory constituencies have fishing as one of their industries.
Whether Boris agrees to the EU’s demands on sequencing will be an early test of whether he will stand by this Brexit constituency or sell them out, much as he did with NI.
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How do you fucking know he hasn't paid? Go and ask williamglenn. Ask the mods. Presumably if there has been some terrible WELCHING then we'd soon hear of it.viewcode said:
It doesn't work like that. @SeanT and @williamglenn made a bet. Both were adults with contractual competence. @SeanT lost and must pay up. I realise there are some wealthy people who have spent their lives being insulated from the effects of their bad decisions, but this is gambling and money is important. Arguing that the debt should not be paid is a bad thing. @SeanT must pay @williamglenn the money he owes him.Byronic said:
SeanT should have refused to pay in on the very honourable basis that he was right in principle, and we are leaving, and very soon, he was merely out by a month. Of course, I was merely lurking at the time, but AIUI williamglenn's firm position was that Brexit would NEVER HAPPENTheScreamingEagles said:
God, at least I wasn't wrong as the Leaver SeanT who offered a bet of £10,000 that the UK would have left the EU by the end of 2019.Byronic said:SERIOUS QUESTION FOR THE MODS
Why do we even allow these dribbling idiot Remainers like TSE and Topping and Gallowgate to stay on the site?
Remainers have been absolutely wrong about everything since about ten years before the referendum. They thought constantly ignoring the people on the EU would be a good idea because they could keep doing it. Then when they had to stop doing it they called a botched referendum, and they managed to lose an unloseable referendum because, again, they are idiots and morons. And arrogant to boot.
Then they got 99% of their predictions for economic armageddon wrong after Brexit. Then they said there should be a 2nd referendum, shamelessly trashing British democracy, which makes them scum as well as crass. Then they organised the world's worst experiment in tactical anti-Brexit voting which delivered the Brexiteering prime minister the biggest majority since Tamurlane the Great
Then they said Brexit could never actually happen just because because because, and they ended up beating a trapped fox to death with a fucking baseball bat while wearing their wife's undersized silk kimono.
Really. We have heard enough from the Remainers to last us several decades. Their brains are made of ten day old Tescos hummus and their moral sense cannot be spotted by the Hubble Telescope.
Enough. Enough now. Let these droning fools be gone from this place.
My understanding of SeanT was that he was, in essence, the very best of us, as moral as he was virile, and he would sooner have sex with someone actually over 30 than he would ever welch.
But knock yourself out and save us a debate and Go Ask.
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Yes, SeanT's lost the bet. He should do the honourable thing.viewcode said:
It doesn't work like that. @SeanT and @williamglenn made a bet. Both were adults with contractual competence. @SeanT lost and must pay up. I realise there are some wealthy people who have spent their lives being insulated from the effects of their bad decisions, but this is gambling and money is important. Arguing that the debt should not be paid is a bad thing. @SeanT must pay @williamglenn the money he owes him.Byronic said:
SeanT should have refused to pay in on the very honourable basis that he was right in principle, and we are leaving, and very soon, he was merely out by a month. Of course, I was merely lurking at the time, but AIUI williamglenn's firm position was that Brexit would NEVER HAPPENTheScreamingEagles said:
God, at least I wasn't wrong as the Leaver SeanT who offered a bet of £10,000 that the UK would have left the EU by the end of 2019.Byronic said:SERIOUS QUESTION FOR THE MODS
Why do we even allow these dribbling idiot Remainers like TSE and Topping and Gallowgate to stay on the site?
Remainers have been absolutely wrong about everything since about ten years before the referendum. They thought constantly ignoring the people on the EU would be a good idea because they could keep doing it. Then when they had to stop doing it they called a botched referendum, and they managed to lose an unloseable referendum because, again, they are idiots and morons. And arrogant to boot.
Then they got 99% of their predictions for economic armageddon wrong after Brexit. Then they said there should be a 2nd referendum, shamelessly trashing British democracy, which makes them scum as well as crass. Then they organised the world's worst experiment in tactical anti-Brexit voting which delivered the Brexiteering prime minister the biggest majority since Tamurlane the Great
Then they said Brexit could never actually happen just because because because, and they ended up beating a trapped fox to death with a fucking baseball bat while wearing their wife's undersized silk kimono.
Really. We have heard enough from the Remainers to last us several decades. Their brains are made of ten day old Tescos hummus and their moral sense cannot be spotted by the Hubble Telescope.
Enough. Enough now. Let these droning fools be gone from this place.0 -
I know you’re a Remainer so you won’t understand the visceral desire to take back control from our unelected rulers.HYUFD said:
We would have to spend it on maintaining the President and his family instead without the tourism revenue, the NHS would get zilchTheScreamingEagles said:
We spend x million a week on the Royal family let us spend that on the NHS instead.FrancisUrquhart said:Clive Lewis calls for Royal Family referendum
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51062770
That will get all those patriotic red-wallers back on side.1 -
Only if predictable in-house lawyers are put against the wall first.TheScreamingEagles said:
We spend x million a week on the Royal family let us spend that on the NHS instead.FrancisUrquhart said:Clive Lewis calls for Royal Family referendum
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51062770
That will get all those patriotic red-wallers back on side.0 -
Sounds familiar.HYUFD said:
We would have to spend it on maintaining the President and their family instead without the tourism revenue, the NHS would get zilchTheScreamingEagles said:
We spend x million a week on the Royal family let us spend that on the NHS instead.FrancisUrquhart said:Clive Lewis calls for Royal Family referendum
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51062770
That will get all those patriotic red-wallers back on side.
Beyond parody.0 -
Strong black coffee and an Alka Selzer ?TOPPING said:
Sweetie, sorry. I was away from the computer. If you missed me that much you could have DM'd me. Anyway I'm back. How can I help?Byronic said:SERIOUS QUESTION FOR THE MODS
Why do we even allow these dribbling idiot Remainers like TSE and Topping and Gallowgate to stay on the site?
Remainers have been absolutely wrong about everything since about ten years before the referendum. They thought constantly ignoring the people on the EU would be a good idea because they could keep doing it. Then when they had to stop doing it they called a botched referendum, and they managed to lose this unloseable referendum because, again, they are idiots and morons. And arrogant to boot.
Then they got 99% of their predictions for economic armageddon wrong after Brexit. Then they said there should be a 2nd referendum, shamelessly trashing British democracy, which makes them scum as well as crass. Then they organised the world's worst experiment in tactical anti-Brexit voting which delivered the Brexiteering prime minister the biggest majority since Tamurlane the Great
Then they said Brexit could never actually happen just because because because, and soon after that they ended up beating a trapped fox to death with a fucking baseball bat while wearing their wife's undersized silk kimono.
Really. We have heard enough from the Remainers to last us several decades. Their brains are made of ten day old Tescos hummus and their moral sense cannot be spotted by the Hubble Telescope.
Enough. Enough now. Let these droning fools be gone from this place.0 -
Anybody who needs to wank on about class is almost certainly not what they are claiming to be.eek said:
Don't you understand the verb (momentum version)Gallowgate said:
If John Major is working class then so is Keir Starmer.HYUFD said:
John Major was the last working class Tory PM,dr_spyn said:
Ramsay MacDonald was probably the last working class Labour PM, unless I'm very much mistaken.kle4 said:
Fun times. None are working class on the basis that they are obsessively worried about what class they are. Isn't that something only the middle class do?dr_spyn said:And tell that to t'youth of today, and they'll never believe you.
https://twitter.com/ProfTimBale/status/1215620815884034049
I am working class
You are middle class scum.
He is a toff.0 -
On that basis British wine growers should be able to pay for permits to dig up vast tracts of France.Richard_Nabavi said:
It's impossible to see how the fishing industry doesn't get completely shafted. They voted for their own shafting (which would happen whether or not there is any deal with the EU), apparently on the ludicrous basis that they want the EU to keep taking their fish whilst locking out EU fishermen from the British waters for which they've already paid for permits.Cyclefree said:It is of course tiny in terms of its economic contribution. But it seems to be totemic to many Brexiteers and many in the fishing industry are good at making their views known, plus some of the new Tory constituencies have fishing as one of their industries.
Whether Boris agrees to the EU’s demands on sequencing will be an early test of whether he will stand by this Brexit constituency or sell them out, much as he did with NI.
The French wine growers seem to be operating on the ludicrous basis that they want Britain to keep taking their burgundy and champagne whilst locking British wine growers out of French wine regions.0 -
I can confirm that SeanT did pay WilliamGlenn £1,000.3
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Byronic said:
My understanding of SeanT was that he was, in essence, the very best of us, as moral as he was virile, and he would sooner have sex with someone actually over 30 than he would ever welch.
4/10. Flowery but unconvincing and without substance. It’s a good job you’re not a professional writer.0 -
New Year Party season going on late this year?Byronic said:SERIOUS QUESTION FOR THE MODS
Why do we even allow these dribbling idiot Remainers like TSE and Topping and Gallowgate to stay on the site?
Remainers have been absolutely wrong about everything since about ten years before the referendum. They thought constantly ignoring the people on the EU would be a good idea because they could keep doing it. Then when they had to stop doing it they called a botched referendum, and they managed to lose this unloseable referendum because, again, they are idiots and morons. And arrogant to boot.
Then they got 99% of their predictions for economic armageddon wrong after Brexit. Then they said there should be a 2nd referendum, shamelessly trashing British democracy, which makes them scum as well as crass. Then they organised the world's worst experiment in tactical anti-Brexit voting which delivered the Brexiteering prime minister the biggest majority since Tamurlane the Great
Then they said Brexit could never actually happen just because because because, and soon after that they ended up beating a trapped fox to death with a fucking baseball bat while wearing their wife's undersized silk kimono.
Really. We have heard enough from the Remainers to last us several decades. Their brains are made of ten day old Tescos hummus and their moral sense cannot be spotted by the Hubble Telescope.
Enough. Enough now. Let these droning fools be gone from this place.
HNY Sean and thanks for making me laugh for the past 13 years!
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A silly point made even sillier by the fact that many French vineyards are British-owned.contrarian said:
On that basis British wine growers should be able to pay for permits to dig up vast tracts of France.Richard_Nabavi said:
It's impossible to see how the fishing industry doesn't get completely shafted. They voted for their own shafting (which would happen whether or not there is any deal with the EU), apparently on the ludicrous basis that they want the EU to keep taking their fish whilst locking out EU fishermen from the British waters for which they've already paid for permits.Cyclefree said:It is of course tiny in terms of its economic contribution. But it seems to be totemic to many Brexiteers and many in the fishing industry are good at making their views known, plus some of the new Tory constituencies have fishing as one of their industries.
Whether Boris agrees to the EU’s demands on sequencing will be an early test of whether he will stand by this Brexit constituency or sell them out, much as he did with NI.
The French wine growers seem to be operating on the ludicrous basis that they want Britain to keep taking their burgundy and champagne whilst locking British wine growers out of French wine regions.0 -
There. I knew it!!TheScreamingEagles said:I can confirm that SeanT did pay WilliamGlenn £1,000.
WHAT A MAN HE IS
A GIANT once walked amongst us. And we pygmies barely knew it.6 -
Yes but as a REMOANER your confirmation is worthless.TheScreamingEagles said:I can confirm that SeanT did pay WilliamGlenn £1,000.
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