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Today's Populus:
Lab 35%
Con 34%
UKIP 12%
LD 11%0 -
Andrew Sinclair @andrewpolitics 4h
On Look East at 1330 @peterbone on why he's holding an in/out referendum now in Northants
Don't think that's what he's going to be most concerned with today somehow.
Old Holborn @OHwinsAgain 2h
Peter Bone: Tory MP Investigated Over Expenses http://news.sky.com/story/1240986/0 -
That makes Betfair's 8/1 (!!) on CON MOST VOTES in the Euros look like outstanding value.AndyJS said:Today's Populus:
Lab 35%
Con 34%
UKIP 12%
LD 11%
(I know that the Euros and Westminster elections involve different voter behaviour, but still... )
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And there we have it folks: the Senioristas have resigned themselves to holding on to two MEPs. Oh, how we will laugh.MarkSenior said:
You were looking in a mirror as you posted that .Stuart_Dickson said:
Fess up you little fibber. You love sub-samples. They make you all moist and excited. You just cannot stand it when someone else gives them the look.MarkSenior said:
Nope you idiot , I am saying that any decline in the LD vote will not be uniform , it will be greater in say the West Midlands and less in say London .Stuart_Dickson said:
Ho ho. Mark is pinning his hopes on the sub-samples. What a chump.MarkSenior said:
All the Euro opinion polls even those with LD's at 9% show they will keep several seats because the decline is not uniform . London is pretty consistently the area with the highest LD % .Daniel said:
IMHO? no. Opinion polls have LD's at 9% - would lose all MEPs. UKIP very strong in South East, Greens have pockets of support in some areas. I expect Labour to dominate in London, along with Tories, UKIP and Greens - LD's will get drowned out.anotherDave said:Is it certain? Aren't the LD MEPs likely to hang on in London and the South East?
I cannot see, again my opinion, LD's doing well and gaining enough support to keep any seats.
But I'm more keen in the local elections; it is a perfect time to analysis just have strongly UKIP do take voters Labour. Council elections are predominately in Labour heartlands this year.
FWIW I have taken up a small wager with Paddypower that LD's will get 2 or more seats in the Euro elections at 5/6 .0 -
Good evening, everyone.
Mr. Dickson, indeed. Put on a tiny sum at 9.8.0 -
Only a prize idiot such as yourself would interpret my bet as resigning myself to LDs keeping two MEP'sStuart_Dickson said:
And there we have it folks: the Senioristas have resigned themselves to holding on to two MEPs. Oh, how we will laugh.MarkSenior said:
You were looking in a mirror as you posted that .Stuart_Dickson said:
Fess up you little fibber. You love sub-samples. They make you all moist and excited. You just cannot stand it when someone else gives them the look.MarkSenior said:
Nope you idiot , I am saying that any decline in the LD vote will not be uniform , it will be greater in say the West Midlands and less in say London .Stuart_Dickson said:
Ho ho. Mark is pinning his hopes on the sub-samples. What a chump.MarkSenior said:
All the Euro opinion polls even those with LD's at 9% show they will keep several seats because the decline is not uniform . London is pretty consistently the area with the highest LD % .Daniel said:
IMHO? no. Opinion polls have LD's at 9% - would lose all MEPs. UKIP very strong in South East, Greens have pockets of support in some areas. I expect Labour to dominate in London, along with Tories, UKIP and Greens - LD's will get drowned out.anotherDave said:Is it certain? Aren't the LD MEPs likely to hang on in London and the South East?
I cannot see, again my opinion, LD's doing well and gaining enough support to keep any seats.
But I'm more keen in the local elections; it is a perfect time to analysis just have strongly UKIP do take voters Labour. Council elections are predominately in Labour heartlands this year.
FWIW I have taken up a small wager with Paddypower that LD's will get 2 or more seats in the Euro elections at 5/6 .0 -
Lady Ruff-Diamond .... get your camera ready .... press ....Carnyx said:
Those were Victorian uniforms IIRC! I hardly think there was much chance of that, with the morning inspection as immortalised in Up the Khyber Pass ...JackW said:
Women in the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders ????Carnyx said:
Alan, have you seen the Highland regiment uniforms? For instance, those in the regimental museum in Stirling Castle? The sporrans are so huge and hairy there is absolutely no doubt of the gender it is intended to convey. None of those Spartan comrades pulling each others' hairs out with tweezers before a nice supper of blood soup or whatever it was they ate.Alanbrooke said:malcolmg said:
Dear Dear Alan, you are losing the plot now as well, there is no hope.Alanbrooke said:
Well of course Salmond has a woman problem, the nats are a bunch of blunt irate blokes who ignore ladies and seek male company in a kind of clannish way. There's something vaguely homoerotic about it, think of the film 300 with body hair.john_zims said:@MonikerDiCanio
Salmond's clearly got a women problem,all the publicity about his troughing can't have helped or maybe they just see through all the bluff,bluster and bull$hit.
'Only 28.5 per cent of the female electorate would now vote for independence, down from 32.5 per cent in March, according to the Survation poll. Support for the No camp was much higher among women than men (51 per cent compared to 44 per cent).'
admit it malc there's nothing more you want to do than buy some nice strappy sandals and walk round Ayshire in a tartan skirt.
Shirley Shum Mishtayk ????
Or as she was wont to say ....
"Clunk click, what a big dick ....."
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You win if the LDs get anywhere between 2 and 73 seats! ;-)MarkSenior said:
Only a prize idiot such as yourself would interpret my bet as resigning myself to LDs keeping two MEP's
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A prize what?MarkSenior said:
Only a prize idiot such as yourself would interpret my bet as resigning myself to LDs keeping two MEP'sStuart_Dickson said:
And there we have it folks: the Senioristas have resigned themselves to holding on to two MEPs. Oh, how we will laugh.MarkSenior said:
You were looking in a mirror as you posted that .Stuart_Dickson said:
Fess up you little fibber. You love sub-samples. They make you all moist and excited. You just cannot stand it when someone else gives them the look.MarkSenior said:
Nope you idiot , I am saying that any decline in the LD vote will not be uniform , it will be greater in say the West Midlands and less in say London .Stuart_Dickson said:
Ho ho. Mark is pinning his hopes on the sub-samples. What a chump.MarkSenior said:
All the Euro opinion polls even those with LD's at 9% show they will keep several seats because the decline is not uniform . London is pretty consistently the area with the highest LD % .Daniel said:
IMHO? no. Opinion polls have LD's at 9% - would lose all MEPs. UKIP very strong in South East, Greens have pockets of support in some areas. I expect Labour to dominate in London, along with Tories, UKIP and Greens - LD's will get drowned out.anotherDave said:Is it certain? Aren't the LD MEPs likely to hang on in London and the South East?
I cannot see, again my opinion, LD's doing well and gaining enough support to keep any seats.
But I'm more keen in the local elections; it is a perfect time to analysis just have strongly UKIP do take voters Labour. Council elections are predominately in Labour heartlands this year.
FWIW I have taken up a small wager with Paddypower that LD's will get 2 or more seats in the Euro elections at 5/6 .0 -
Agreed , it is a clear value for money bet .RobD said:
You win if the LDs get anywhere between 2 and 73 seats! ;-)MarkSenior said:
Only a prize twit such as yourself would interpret my bet as resigning myself to LDs keeping two MEP's0 -
I think he was complimenting Stuart as an excellent tweeter. Or perhaps I am mistaken...MarkSenior said:
A prize what?isam said:
Only a prize twit such as yourself would interpret my bet as resigning myself to LDs keeping two MEP's
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On Inverness, no-one I speak to within the local business community expects Danny to do anything other than retain Inverness. He is well liked and works hard. He has recently led on the fuel discount scheme and opposition to the average speed cameras on the A9. He is also an incredibly approachable MP and works the constituency very hard. I reckon Danny will hold on.
On my home seat, if the noble Viscount stands again, he may just sneak back in. The mutterings I hear are that Labour is expecting to take the seat. I think much of Rob Gibson's 2011 SNP majority was anti-Robbie Rowantree votes.
Will be interesting to see any IndyRef polling this weekend. Nats are in conference mode and Wee Nippy Sweetie is getting stuck into Johann frae Pollok who remains almost invisible.0 -
The tables for this poll were published earlier. There's a very small LD to Lab movement of just 20% of the LD 2010 voters (or 25% if Don't Knows are excluded). 11% (or 14% excluding DK's) have swung to Con.AndyJS said:Today's Populus:
Lab 35%
Con 34%
UKIP 12%
LD 11%
Question is, is this just an outlier from a non-balanced subsample or is something more meaningful happening?0 -
What with the current gap between Men saying Yes and Women saying No in the Indy debate, that might already be happening up here in Scotland! And thanks Mr Brookes, I am still laughing and trying to get the image of hairy Cybernats dressed like extras out of 300 out of my head right now.
But JackW, we all know that its Mrs JackW who wears the shoes in your household, so behave yourself.Alanbrooke said:very simple solution Fitalass, Scottish women go on a sex strike 6 weeks before 18.09.14 to be lifted only on a no vote :-)
JackW said:
Not too sure Mr Fitalass would be too keen on that policy and modesty forfids what Fitalass might think !!Alanbrooke said:very simple solution Fitalass, Scottish women go on a sex strike 6 weeks before 18.09.14 to be lifted only on a no vote :-)
As for Mrs JackW .... No chance !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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A good point - that's why the Populus monthly aggregates are so important. Monday's figures of 27% or 35% with DKs excluded was very much in line with the March aggregate.david_herdson said:
The tables for this poll were published earlier. There's a very small LD to Lab movement of just 20% of the LD 2010 voters (or 25% if Don't Knows are excluded). 11% (or 14% excluding DK's) have swung to Con.AndyJS said:Today's Populus:
Lab 35%
Con 34%
UKIP 12%
LD 11%
Question is, is this just an outlier from a non-balanced subsample or is something more meaningful happening?
The subsample of 2010 LDs is only 231 so there's a big margin of error. Wait for the next poll.
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The sample as a whole was very unbalanced , Labour led the Conservatives by 7-8% before weighting adjustments and would have led by 4-5% if Populus were still using their pre February weightings .david_herdson said:
The tables for this poll were published earlier. There's a very small LD to Lab movement of just 20% of the LD 2010 voters (or 25% if Don't Knows are excluded). 11% (or 14% excluding DK's) have swung to Con.AndyJS said:Today's Populus:
Lab 35%
Con 34%
UKIP 12%
LD 11%
Question is, is this just an outlier from a non-balanced subsample or is something more meaningful happening?0 -
Miss Fitalass, whilst I've never been a Spartan warrior I must confess I would want more to wear than a pair of underpants if I were going into battle.0
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I'm sure Viscount Thurso will prevail as a failure will require a very personal invitation for you to enjoy the gastronomy of Auchentennach Castle.Easterross said:On Inverness, no-one I speak to within the local business community expects Danny to do anything other than retain Inverness. He is well liked and works hard. He has recently led on the fuel discount scheme and opposition to the average speed cameras on the A9. He is also an incredibly approachable MP and works the constituency very hard. I reckon Danny will hold on.
On my home seat, if the noble Viscount stands again, he may just sneak back in. The mutterings I hear are that Labour is expecting to take the seat. I think much of Rob Gibson's 2011 SNP majority was anti-Robbie Rowantree votes.
Will be interesting to see any IndyRef polling this weekend. Nats are in conference mode and Wee Nippy Sweetie is getting stuck into Johann frae Pollok who remains almost invisible.
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Between the skirt and the female merkin that resembles a handbag it is very clear what is going on there.JackW said:Carnyx said:Alanbrooke said:malcolmg said:
Women in the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders ????Alanbrooke said:
Alan, have you seen the Highland regiment uniforms? For instance, those in the regimental museum in Stirling Castle? The sporrans are so huge and hairy there is absolutely no doubt of the gender it is intended to convey. None of those Spartan comrades pulling each others' hairs out with tweezers before a nice supper of blood soup or whatever it was they ate.john_zims said:
Shirley Shum Mishtayk ????Alanbrooke said:Carnyx said:Alanbrooke said:
Now you're having a laugh, a sporran is simply a front hung handbag. It's where pipers keep their make-up.malcolmg said:
Alan, have you seen the Highland regiment uniforms? For instance, those in the regimental museum in Stirling Castle? The sporrans are so huge and hairy there is absolutely no doubt of the gender it is intended to convey. None of those Spartan comrades pulling each others' hairs out with tweezers before a nice supper of blood soup or whatever it was they ate.Alanbrooke said:john_zims said:
admit it malc there's nothing more you want to do than buy some nice strappy sandals and walk round Ayshire in a tartan skirt.
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@Theuniondivvie Suggest you read my post again and actually digest the genuine question on Salmond's personal polling that I actually put up in response to that Scotsman article. That poll you just put up is totally worthless as a childish rebuttal.
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Behave .... little old moi ??? .... I'm a model of obedience ....fitalass said:What with the current gap between Men saying Yes and Women saying No in the Indy debate, that might already be happening up here in Scotland! And thanks Mr Brookes, I am still laughing and trying to get the image of hairy Cybernats dressed like extras out of 300 out of my head right now.
But JackW, we all know that its Mrs JackW who wears the shoes in your household, so behave yourself.Alanbrooke said:very simple solution Fitalass, Scottish women go on a sex strike 6 weeks before 18.09.14 to be lifted only on a no vote :-)
JackW said:
Not too sure Mr Fitalass would be too keen on that policy and modesty forfids what Fitalass might think !!Alanbrooke said:very simple solution Fitalass, Scottish women go on a sex strike 6 weeks before 18.09.14 to be lifted only on a no vote :-)
As for Mrs JackW .... No chance !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Innocent Smile"
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@MarkSenior: I'm happy to sell LibDem MEPs at 72, if that's of interest
Re UKIP European expenses. Whether the money came via the EU or not, it came from taxpayers. Nobody should be proud of troughing at the public purse, no matter what the intermediary.0 -
Do you mean me, please, or UD ? I wasn't thinking of you but other posters, and I didn't cite any specific poll? [edit: sorry, I mean UD]fitalass said:Suggest you read my post again and actually digest the genuine question on Salmond's personal polling that I actually put up in response to that Scotsman article. That poll you just put up is completely worthless as a response, and just adds to the daily childish tit for tat Nat rebuttal antics on this site. Come back with a graph showing Alex Salmond's personal polling over the term of this Holyrood Parliament in the run up to the next elections and then we can have a proper grown up debate about any changes due to the Indy Ref campaign and result.
Carnyx said:
I think there is also a degree of confusion in certain quarters. This is talking about Mr Salmond and you have picked it correctly. (How did the LD chappie score BTW?)Theuniondivvie said:
'That article is bang on the money in all the points it makes' (trans. from Fitalassian) - 'that article precisely reflects all my personal prejudices'.fitalass said:That article is bang on the money in all the points it makes as to why women are not being persuaded by the Yes Campaign. I have said before over the years that I have always found Salmond a very cold fish, excuse the pun.
But right now Salmond is the spiv in a suit asking a lot of women to take the biggest gamble of their lives on their future financial security to realise a nationalist dream of independence they don't share. Its going to be interesting to look back and compare Salmond's personal ratings over the term of this Holyrood Parliament after the Indy Ref and nearer the Scottish elections.MonikerDiCanio said:An piece on Salmond's inability to attract female voters;
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jennyhjul/100266741/alex-salmond-fails-to-lure-the-female-voter/
Ipsos satisfaction ratings Sep 2013 - Women
Salmond -4 (DK 14%)
Davidson +3 (DK 42%)
Lamont +11 (DK 39%)
Cameron -25 (DK 10%)
Sturgeon +18 (DK 20%)
Darling +7 (DK 36%)
Scottish women can obviously see a spiv in a suit a mile off.
These polls which are for indy yes/no are not talking about Mr Salmond, convenient as it is for some to given him the Emmanuel Goldstein treatment. To make my point, it is just as logical for them to be interpreted as young ladies swooning at Mr Osborne's debonair looks. Or those of Mr Miliband with his Darceyesque air and firm, robust statement of One nation!
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Re Populus 2010 LDs figures. Today's YouGov has 39% of 2010 LDs as switchers to LAB excluding don't knows.0
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fitalass said:
Suggest you read my post again and actually digest the genuine question on Salmond's personal polling that I actually put up in response to that Scotsman article. That poll you just put up is completely worthless as a response, and just adds to the daily childish tit for tat Nat rebuttal antics on this site. Come back with a graph showing Alex Salmond's personal polling over the term of this Holyrood Parliament in the run up to the next elections and then we can have a proper grown up debate about any changes due to the Indy Ref campaign and result.
All you need to know is more panda's than Tory MP's and in Holyrood they have a handful due to the list system. Rebut that one.Carnyx said:Theuniondivvie said:
'That article is bang on the money in all the points it makes' (trans. from Fitalassian) - 'that article precisely reflects all my personal prejudices'.fitalass said:That article is bang on the money in all the points it makes as to why women are not being persuaded by the Yes Campaign. I have said before over the years that I have always found Salmond a very cold fish, excuse the pun.
But right now Salmond is the spiv in a suit asking a lot of women to take the biggest gamble of their lives on their future financial security to realise a nationalist dream of independence they don't share. Its going to be interesting to look back and compare Salmond's personal ratings over the term of this Holyrood Parliament after the Indy Ref and nearer the Scottish elections.MonikerDiCanio said:An piece on Salmond's inability to attract female voters;
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jennyhjul/100266741/alex-salmond-fails-to-lure-the-female-voter/
Ipsos satisfaction ratings Sep 2013 - Women
Salmond -4 (DK 14%)
Davidson +3 (DK 42%)
Lamont +11 (DK 39%)
Cameron -25 (DK 10%)
Sturgeon +18 (DK 20%)
Darling +7 (DK 36%)
Scottish women can obviously see a spiv in a suit a mile off.0 -
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That was a response to the Theuniondivvie who got a bit too excited about trying to rebut my point about Salmond's personal polling that he didn't even bother to read the whole post.Carnyx said:
Do you mean me, please, or UD ? I wasn't thinking of you but other posters, and I didn't cite any specific poll? [edit: sorry, I mean UD]fitalass said:Suggest you read my post again and actually digest the genuine question on Salmond's personal polling that I actually put up in response to that Scotsman article. That poll you just put up is completely worthless as a response, and just adds to the daily childish tit for tat Nat rebuttal antics on this site. Come back with a graph showing Alex Salmond's personal polling over the term of this Holyrood Parliament in the run up to the next elections and then we can have a proper grown up debate about any changes due to the Indy Ref campaign and result.
Carnyx said:
I think there is also a degree of confusion in certain quarters. This is talking about Mr Salmond and you have picked it correctly. (How did the LD chappie score BTW?)Theuniondivvie said:
'That article is bang on the money in all the points it makes' (trans. from Fitalassian) - 'that article precisely reflects all my personal prejudices'.fitalass said:That article is bang on the money in all the points it makes as to why women are not being persuaded by the Yes Campaign. I have said before over the years that I have always found Salmond a very cold fish, excuse the pun.
But right now Salmond is the spiv in a suit asking a lot of women to take the biggest gamble of their lives on their future financial security to realise a nationalist dream of independence they don't share. Its going to be interesting to look back and compare Salmond's personal ratings over the term of this Holyrood Parliament after the Indy Ref and nearer the Scottish elections.MonikerDiCanio said:An piece on Salmond's inability to attract female voters;
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jennyhjul/100266741/alex-salmond-fails-to-lure-the-female-voter/
Ipsos satisfaction ratings Sep 2013 - Women
Salmond -4 (DK 14%)
Davidson +3 (DK 42%)
Lamont +11 (DK 39%)
Cameron -25 (DK 10%)
Sturgeon +18 (DK 20%)
Darling +7 (DK 36%)
Scottish women can obviously see a spiv in a suit a mile off.
These polls which are for indy yes/no are not talking about Mr Salmond, convenient as it is for some to given him the Emmanuel Goldstein treatment. To make my point, it is just as logical for them to be interpreted as young ladies swooning at Mr Osborne's debonair looks. Or those of Mr Miliband with his Darceyesque air and firm, robust statement of One nation!0 -
Would be a brave man who breaches the sanctity of thereabouts .... a very brave man indeed.Bond_James_Bond said:
Between the skirt and the female merkin that resembles a handbag it is very clear what is going on there.JackW said:Carnyx said:Alanbrooke said:malcolmg said:
Women in the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders ????Alanbrooke said:
Alan, have you seen the Highland regiment uniforms? For instance, those in the regimental museum in Stirling Castle? The sporrans are so huge and hairy there is absolutely no doubt of the gender it is intended to convey. None of those Spartan comrades pulling each others' hairs out with tweezers before a nice supper of blood soup or whatever it was they ate.john_zims said:
Shirley Shum Mishtayk ????Alanbrooke said:Carnyx said:Alanbrooke said:
Now you're having a laugh, a sporran is simply a front hung handbag. It's where pipers keep their make-up.malcolmg said:
Alan, have you seen the Highland regiment uniforms? For instance, those in the regimental museum in Stirling Castle? The sporrans are so huge and hairy there is absolutely no doubt of the gender it is intended to convey. None of those Spartan comrades pulling each others' hairs out with tweezers before a nice supper of blood soup or whatever it was they ate.Alanbrooke said:john_zims said:
admit it malc there's nothing more you want to do than buy some nice strappy sandals and walk round Ayshire in a tartan skirt.
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Ukip leader Nigel Farage boasts of his £2m in expenses
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2009/may/24/mps-expenses-ukip-nigel-farage0 -
I know Populus was published earlier today but I got the impression not everyone was aware of it, which is why I posted the figures.0
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Farage on HIGNFY tonight apparently.0
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Surely they used normal hoplite panoply? Heavy infantry armour? But no doubt we have experts who will know.Morris_Dancer said:Miss Fitalass, whilst I've never been a Spartan warrior I must confess I would want more to wear than a pair of underpants if I were going into battle.
It's more the black broth that would put me off. Pork, blood, and vinegar.
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Garage sells for over half a million:
http://www.itv.com/news/london/2014-04-11/run-down-south-london-garage-sells-for-550-000/0 -
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Severin Carrell @severincarrell 6h
.@theSNP delays 2014 conference til November for #indyref, and cancels branch and national council meetings for campaign #snp14
Ian Smart @ianssmart 1h
@severincarrell @theSNP Very wise. A conference within a month would be a blood bath.
Robert McNeill @robertmcneill2 15m
Quote of the week from SNP activist 'It will be a long cold winter if we do not win INDY" bit advice start buying lots of winter clothes0 -
I do wonder how some of the UKIP supporters with overly optimistic expectations of the next GE will react to disappointment.0
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They couldn't compete on a level playing field with all the other eateries that had to add the standard rate tax? How many people eating at (say) the central Cambridge branch took their pasties home to eat, and how many were shovelling them into their mouths as they walked down the street?Carola said:
Or perhaps they just expanded too fast. Yes, that's probably it.0 -
That's an illusion I try hard to cultivate, but every now and then the mask slips.isam said:
Oh don't! You're better than this!!antifrank said:
That poll bounce for UKIP is so visible in today's Populus poll isn't it?isam said:
I like you Antifrank, but why are you spinning this line about the Clegg-Farage debate so persistently?antifrank said:Has anyone mentioned the Populus most-noticed poll this week?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bk8rClxCQAA9xCQ.jpg
Four times as many people picked up on the Maria Miller expenses story as picked up last week on the Clegg-Farage debate. More people noticed the royal visit to New Zealand this week than noticed the first Clegg-Farage debate two weeks ago.
Note also the impact of Oscar Pistorius' trial.
Another way of interpreting those figures would be to say five times more people noticed the second debate than Kate and Wills NZ visit, but no one can be bothered to do that
The fact that the debate is still in the top ten this week, having happened last week proves you wrong doesn't it? As does the poll bounce for UKIP and the slump of the nations 4th party0 -
Or the classic, private equity owners sucking cash out of the business, creating an unserviceable pile of debt.JosiasJessop said:
They couldn't compete on a level playing field with all the other eateries that had to add the standard rate tax? How many people eating at (say) the central Cambridge branch took their pasties home to eat, and how many were shovelling them into their mouths as they walked down the street?Carola said:
Or perhaps they just expanded too fast. Yes, that's probably it.
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Norwich North is a very divided seat. The part of it within Norwich council area is abysmal for the Tories.
2013 local elections:
Norwich City wards:
Lab 3724 (43.6%)
UKIP 1755 (20.5%)
Green 1447 (16.9%)
Con 1297 (15.2%)
LD 320 (3.7%)
In the Broadland section of the constituency (using 50% with Thorpe St Andrew) votes were as follows:
Con 4490 (38.1%)
UKIP 3024 (25.7%)
Lab 2882 (24.5%)
LD 1115 (9.5%)
Green 273 (2.3%)
Totals for Norwich North:
Lab 6606 (32.5%)
Con 5788 (28.5%)
UKIP 4780 (23.5%)
Green 1720 (8.5%)
LD 1435 (7.1%)
Changes since 2010 GE:
Lab +1.1%
Con -12.1%
UKIP +19.1%
Green +5.5%
LD -11.2%
Others -2.4%
Swing, Con to Lab: 6.6%
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fitalass said:
Twitter
Severin Carrell @severincarrell 6h
.@theSNP delays 2014 conference til November for #indyref, and cancels branch and national council meetings for campaign #snp14
Ian Smart @ianssmart 1h
@severincarrell @theSNP Very wise. A conference within a month would be a blood bath.
Robert McNeill @robertmcneill2 15m
Quote of the week from SNP activist 'It will be a long cold winter if we do not win INDY" bit advice start buying lots of winter clothes
The name Ian Smart sounded familiar in connection with bloodbaths- is that the one who was predicting on twitter there'd be anti-Pakistani and anti-Polish pogroms after a Yes vote?fitalass said:Twitter
Severin Carrell @severincarrell 6h
.@theSNP delays 2014 conference til November for #indyref, and cancels branch and national council meetings for campaign #snp14
Ian Smart @ianssmart 1h
@severincarrell @theSNP Very wise. A conference within a month would be a blood bath.
Robert McNeill @robertmcneill2 15m
Quote of the week from SNP activist 'It will be a long cold winter if we do not win INDY" bit advice start buying lots of winter clothes
http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/ian-smart-is-worse-than-a-racist-says-brother-1-2924947
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Whats that thing that extends into the Bristol Channel then?
It struck me when looking at a few 2010 results earlier eg High Peak, Broxtowe dare I say, how the Tories were still far short of their 80s High water mark. Even allowing for boundary changes. Its hard to see them gaining share so as OGH has said all along, it's who UKIP harms and to whom the 2010 LD spike dissipates. Could be a crazy election but my gut feeling says Labour will definitely win over 50 of these seats.0 -
The company had been struggling along with pre-tax losses in excess of £0.5million annually long before the imposition of the tax changes - having bought the company for £40m in a management buy-out in 2007 I believe the new owners struggled with their repayments right from the off.JosiasJessop said:
They couldn't compete on a level playing field with all the other eateries that had to add the standard rate tax? How many people eating at (say) the central Cambridge branch took their pasties home to eat, and how many were shovelling them into their mouths as they walked down the street?Carola said:
Or perhaps they just expanded too fast. Yes, that's probably it.
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We are getting into holiday season around Easter so the polls may be a bit more variable than usual.
I would wait a fortnight until end April to avoid this effect.
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[edited extra bit] and I'm sure a five year recession hitting almost immediately after purchase did not help matters - I tried the local branch out a couple of times, they were OK, but not a patch on the local bakery's which was located just two doors down.SimonStClare said:
The company had been struggling along with pre-tax losses in excess of £0.5million annually long before the imposition of the tax changes - having bought the company for £40m in a management buy-out in 2007 I believe the new owners struggled with their repayments right from the off.JosiasJessop said:
They couldn't compete on a level playing field with all the other eateries that had to add the standard rate tax? How many people eating at (say) the central Cambridge branch took their pasties home to eat, and how many were shovelling them into their mouths as they walked down the street?Carola said:
Or perhaps they just expanded too fast. Yes, that's probably it.
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I'm not sure why this sort of thing should be leaked; it should be on the public record from all parties. But some of it does seem a little odd; see my post at the beginning of this thread.Carola said:Code of conduct leaked:
http://www.channel4.com/news/westminster-code-of-conduct-exclusive-mps
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Will check in a bit. I'm just scribing a PB version for Avery.JosiasJessop said:
I'm not sure why this sort of thing should be leaked; it should be on the public record from all parties. But some of it does seem a little odd; see my post at the beginning of this thread.Carola said:Code of conduct leaked:
http://www.channel4.com/news/westminster-code-of-conduct-exclusive-mps
MPs and parliament should be setting bast practice on this.0 -
'Palace of Sexminster' on C4. The mind boggles. And not in a good way.0
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Anyone who read the thread would know that. He admits it.LogicalSong said:Ukip leader Nigel Farage boasts of his £2m in expenses
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2009/may/24/mps-expenses-ukip-nigel-farage
So what's your point?0 -
Not to mention, distributing something to all MPs is essentially the same as putting out a press release. What's the over/under for the leaking, 12 seconds?JosiasJessop said:
I'm not sure why this sort of thing should be leaked; it should be on the public record from all parties. But some of it does seem a little odd; see my post at the beginning of this thread.Carola said:Code of conduct leaked:
http://www.channel4.com/news/westminster-code-of-conduct-exclusive-mps
MPs and parliament should be setting bast practice on this.0 -
Who @MikeK and his 25 seats? Ah that's just a laugh I thinkcorporeal said:I do wonder how some of the UKIP supporters with overly optimistic expectations of the next GE will react to disappointment.
Want to bet UKIP vs LD vote %.. money keeps it realistic...
Lads are 1/2 LD, you can back it with me at 4/5
If I have been overly optimistic, I'll react by giving you money!0 -
What're the details of our last bet, struggling a little to remember.isam said:
Who @MikeK and his 25 seats? Ah that's just a laugh I thinkcorporeal said:I do wonder how some of the UKIP supporters with overly optimistic expectations of the next GE will react to disappointment.
Want to bet UKIP vs LD vote %.. money keeps it realistic...
Lads are 1/2 LD, you can back it with me at 4/5
If I have been overly optimistic, I'll react by giving you money!0 -
My own estimates at the moment are Labour about 10 seats short of a majority. Something like 55 gains.0
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I think you bet £10 to win £7.14 LD's would bt UKIP maybe?corporeal said:
What're the details of our last bet, struggling a little to remember.isam said:
Who @MikeK and his 25 seats? Ah that's just a laugh I thinkcorporeal said:I do wonder how some of the UKIP supporters with overly optimistic expectations of the next GE will react to disappointment.
Want to bet UKIP vs LD vote %.. money keeps it realistic...
Lads are 1/2 LD, you can back it with me at 4/5
If I have been overly optimistic, I'll react by giving you money!0 -
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From the time it is taking to publish, I fear it is going to be a very large appendix.Carola said:
Will check in a bit. I'm just scribing a PB version for Avery.JosiasJessop said:
I'm not sure why this sort of thing should be leaked; it should be on the public record from all parties. But some of it does seem a little odd; see my post at the beginning of this thread.Carola said:Code of conduct leaked:
http://www.channel4.com/news/westminster-code-of-conduct-exclusive-mps
MPs and parliament should be setting bast practice on this.
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It may take a few days. I keep getting a headache.AveryLP said:
From the time it is taking to publish, I fear it is going to be a very large appendix.Carola said:
Will check in a bit. I'm just scribing a PB version for Avery.JosiasJessop said:
I'm not sure why this sort of thing should be leaked; it should be on the public record from all parties. But some of it does seem a little odd; see my post at the beginning of this thread.Carola said:Code of conduct leaked:
http://www.channel4.com/news/westminster-code-of-conduct-exclusive-mps
MPs and parliament should be setting bast practice on this.
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The working title is 'Posh Sid James'.AveryLP said:
From the time it is taking to publish, I fear it is going to be a very large appendix.Carola said:
Will check in a bit. I'm just scribing a PB version for Avery.JosiasJessop said:
I'm not sure why this sort of thing should be leaked; it should be on the public record from all parties. But some of it does seem a little odd; see my post at the beginning of this thread.Carola said:Code of conduct leaked:
http://www.channel4.com/news/westminster-code-of-conduct-exclusive-mps
MPs and parliament should be setting bast practice on this.
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That College is a trougher sans pareil.isam said:
Anyone who read the thread would know that. He admits it.LogicalSong said:Ukip leader Nigel Farage boasts of his £2m in expenses
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2009/may/24/mps-expenses-ukip-nigel-farage
So what's your point?
I loved this bit from LogicalSong's linked 2009 article:
During a debate about Europe at the Foreign Press Association , ... , Farage was asked by former Europe minister Denis MacShane what he had received in non-salary expenses and allowances since becoming an MEP in 1999.
"It is a vast sum," Farage said. "I don't know what the total amount is but - oh lor - it must be pushing £2 million." Taken aback, MacShane then joked: "Is it too late to become an MEP?"
Shaned by MacShame!
How will College ever live it down?0 -
Pouter on the charge - hope everyone kept those betting slips.0
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? All MEPs get the same lump sum allowances. It's not like the Westminster system where they re-claim allowed expenses.AveryLP said:
That College is a trougher sans pareil.isam said:
Anyone who read the thread would know that. He admits it.LogicalSong said:Ukip leader Nigel Farage boasts of his £2m in expenses
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2009/may/24/mps-expenses-ukip-nigel-farage
So what's your point?
I loved this bit from LogicalSong's linked 2009 article:
During a debate about Europe at the Foreign Press Association , ... , Farage was asked by former Europe minister Denis MacShane what he had received in non-salary expenses and allowances since becoming an MEP in 1999.
"It is a vast sum," Farage said. "I don't know what the total amount is but - oh lor - it must be pushing £2 million." Taken aback, MacShane then joked: "Is it too late to become an MEP?"
Shaned by MacShame!
How will College ever live it down?
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Haha!AveryLP said:
That College is a trougher sans pareil.isam said:
Anyone who read the thread would know that. He admits it.LogicalSong said:Ukip leader Nigel Farage boasts of his £2m in expenses
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2009/may/24/mps-expenses-ukip-nigel-farage
So what's your point?
I loved this bit from LogicalSong's linked 2009 article:
During a debate about Europe at the Foreign Press Association , ... , Farage was asked by former Europe minister Denis MacShane what he had received in non-salary expenses and allowances since becoming an MEP in 1999.
"It is a vast sum," Farage said. "I don't know what the total amount is but - oh lor - it must be pushing £2 million." Taken aback, MacShane then joked: "Is it too late to become an MEP?"
Shaned by MacShame!
How will College ever live it down?
Seems that non Kippers think claiming expenses from the British taxpayer for personal gain is the same as claiming the maximum allowance from the EU and using it to fund the party
So be it!
Its all out in the open, lets see what the public think is worse
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Exactly, their food wasn't very good and it was very expensive. Selling over-priced crap is not a good business model so I am not surprised they have gone bust.SimonStClare said:
[edited extra bit] and I'm sure a five year recession hitting almost immediately after purchase did not help matters - I tried the local branch out a couple of times, they were OK, but not a patch on the local bakery's which was located just two doors down.SimonStClare said:
The company had been struggling along with pre-tax losses in excess of £0.5million annually long before the imposition of the tax changes - having bought the company for £40m in a management buy-out in 2007 I believe the new owners struggled with their repayments right from the off.JosiasJessop said:
They couldn't compete on a level playing field with all the other eateries that had to add the standard rate tax? How many people eating at (say) the central Cambridge branch took their pasties home to eat, and how many were shovelling them into their mouths as they walked down the street?Carola said:
Or perhaps they just expanded too fast. Yes, that's probably it.0 -
They'll go to pub and moan. Just like everyone else.corporeal said:I do wonder how some of the UKIP supporters with overly optimistic expectations of the next GE will react to disappointment.
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Since I doubt they expect to win it, I suspect they will be pleased to get a few MPs or even one elected. Even more pleased if the tories are a few seats short of a majority and dependent on them and UKIP to get legislation through.corporeal said:I do wonder how some of the UKIP supporters with overly optimistic expectations of the next GE will react to disappointment.
FPT It would appear that in Belle Vue in Cumbria labour lost a third of their vote with 95% going to UKIP. The tories kept their voters and got 5% of the labour defectors.
Similarly in Flint, nearly half of Labours vote defected with the vast majority going to UKIP.
If I was Labour I would be worried. It appears that the Clegg - Farage debates have syphoned a chunk of Labours voters to UKIP.
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Carry On, Sir Sydney?Carola said:
The working title is 'Posh Sid James'.AveryLP said:
From the time it is taking to publish, I fear it is going to be a very large appendix.Carola said:
Will check in a bit. I'm just scribing a PB version for Avery.JosiasJessop said:
I'm not sure why this sort of thing should be leaked; it should be on the public record from all parties. But some of it does seem a little odd; see my post at the beginning of this thread.Carola said:Code of conduct leaked:
http://www.channel4.com/news/westminster-code-of-conduct-exclusive-mps
MPs and parliament should be setting bast practice on this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onap0Wou5Lg0 -
Poults seems to have found his game...0
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Doh them and DUP not them and UKIP0
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Norwich North I am tipping Labour on a split Tory/Kipper vote. I don't expect them to clean sweep up to there however.0
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Whether the giving organisation is the EU or the British government it is all taxpayers money.isam said:
Haha!AveryLP said:
That College is a trougher sans pareil.isam said:
Anyone who read the thread would know that. He admits it.LogicalSong said:Ukip leader Nigel Farage boasts of his £2m in expenses
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2009/may/24/mps-expenses-ukip-nigel-farage
So what's your point?
I loved this bit from LogicalSong's linked 2009 article:
During a debate about Europe at the Foreign Press Association , ... , Farage was asked by former Europe minister Denis MacShane what he had received in non-salary expenses and allowances since becoming an MEP in 1999.
"It is a vast sum," Farage said. "I don't know what the total amount is but - oh lor - it must be pushing £2 million." Taken aback, MacShane then joked: "Is it too late to become an MEP?"
Shaned by MacShame!
How will College ever live it down?
Seems that non Kippers think claiming expenses from the British taxpayer for personal gain is the same as claiming the maximum allowance from the EU and using it to fund the party
So be it!
Its all out in the open, lets see what the public think is worse
(thought this UKIP expense thing had stopped when SeanFear stepped in.. well it certainly slowed to a drizzle)
If somebody used the Westminster expenses system to campaign for their re-election, I would be disgusted.
It is all taxpayers money. It is meant to reimburse people for out of pocket expenses they need to do their job.
If you are using it for any other reason, it is 'troughing'. If you steal from the taxpayer for a noble cause, it is still stealing.
Tell me, isam, would you support Gerry Adams using the Westminster allowances system to fund Sinn Fein?0 -
Chloe won't be beat.dyedwoolie said:Norwich North I am tipping Labour on a split Tory/Kipper vote. I don't expect them to clean sweep up to there however.
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"...A question. Since before your sun burned hot in space and before your race was born, I have awaited a question..."Monksfield said:Whats that thing that extends into the Bristol Channel then?
It's Steep Holm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steep_Holm ), an English island in the Bristol Channel which is administered as part of Somerset/Avon/whatever.
I have a horrible feeling that the other bit is Flat Holm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Holm ) which it shouldn't be,, because it's a Welsh island administered from Cardiff. But I'm not enquiring too closely.
Pause.
I'll get me coat.
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I believe the correct word you might be looking for is hypocrisy. Hardly a surprise on here by now though no less hilarious too see it proved so blatantly time after time after time.isam said:
A prize what?MarkSenior said:
Only a prize twit such as yourself would interpret my bet as resigning myself to LDs keeping two MEP'sStuart_Dickson said:
And there we have it folks: the Senioristas have resigned themselves to holding on to two MEPs. Oh, how we will laugh.MarkSenior said:
You were looking in a mirror as you posted that .Stuart_Dickson said:
Fess up you little fibber. You love sub-samples. They make you all moist and excited. You just cannot stand it when someone else gives them the look.MarkSenior said:
Nope you idiot , I am saying that any decline in the LD vote will not be uniform , it will be greater in say the West Midlands and less in say London .Stuart_Dickson said:
Ho ho. Mark is pinning his hopes on the sub-samples. What a chump.MarkSenior said:
All the Euro opinion polls even those with LD's at 9% show they will keep several seats because the decline is not uniform . London is pretty consistently the area with the highest LD % .Daniel said:
IMHO? no. Opinion polls have LD's at 9% - would lose all MEPs. UKIP very strong in South East, Greens have pockets of support in some areas. I expect Labour to dominate in London, along with Tories, UKIP and Greens - LD's will get drowned out.anotherDave said:Is it certain? Aren't the LD MEPs likely to hang on in London and the South East?
I cannot see, again my opinion, LD's doing well and gaining enough support to keep any seats.
But I'm more keen in the local elections; it is a perfect time to analysis just have strongly UKIP do take voters Labour. Council elections are predominately in Labour heartlands this year.
FWIW I have taken up a small wager with Paddypower that LD's will get 2 or more seats in the Euro elections at 5/6 .
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Yes I would, I said so earlier/ That was the example I gavercs1000 said:
Whether the giving organisation is the EU or the British government it is all taxpayers money.isam said:
Haha!AveryLP said:
That College is a trougher sans pareil.isam said:
Anyone who read the thread would know that. He admits it.LogicalSong said:Ukip leader Nigel Farage boasts of his £2m in expenses
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2009/may/24/mps-expenses-ukip-nigel-farage
So what's your point?
I loved this bit from LogicalSong's linked 2009 article:
During a debate about Europe at the Foreign Press Association , ... , Farage was asked by former Europe minister Denis MacShane what he had received in non-salary expenses and allowances since becoming an MEP in 1999.
"It is a vast sum," Farage said. "I don't know what the total amount is but - oh lor - it must be pushing £2 million." Taken aback, MacShane then joked: "Is it too late to become an MEP?"
Shaned by MacShame!
How will College ever live it down?
Seems that non Kippers think claiming expenses from the British taxpayer for personal gain is the same as claiming the maximum allowance from the EU and using it to fund the party
So be it!
Its all out in the open, lets see what the public think is worse
(thought this UKIP expense thing had stopped when SeanFear stepped in.. well it certainly slowed to a drizzle)
If somebody used the Westminster expenses system to campaign for their re-election, I would be disgusted.
It is all taxpayers money. It is meant to reimburse people for out of pocket expenses they need to do their job.
If you are using it for any other reason, it is 'troughing'. If you steal from the taxpayer for a noble cause, it is still stealing.
Tell me, isam, would you support Gerry Adams using the Westminster allowances system to fund Sinn Fein?
Support not really the right word, but I'd understand it, and wouldn't class it as bad as paying for a House etc from expenses0 -
Mick fancy one up the jacksy ? No pressure.Mick_Pork said:
I believe the correct word you might be looking for is hypocrisy. Hardly a surprise on here by now though no less hilarious too see it proved so blatantly time after time after time.isam said:
A prize what?MarkSenior said:
Only a prize twit such as yourself would interpret my bet as resigning myself to LDs keeping two MEP'sStuart_Dickson said:
And there we have it folks: the Senioristas have resigned themselves to holding on to two MEPs. Oh, how we will laugh.MarkSenior said:
You were looking in a mirror as you posted that .Stuart_Dickson said:
Fess up you little fibber. You love sub-samples. They make you all moist and excited. You just cannot stand it when someone else gives them the look.MarkSenior said:
Nope you idiot , I am saying that any decline in the LD vote will not be uniform , it will be greater in say the West Midlands and less in say London .Stuart_Dickson said:
Ho ho. Mark is pinning his hopes on the sub-samples. What a chump.MarkSenior said:
All the Euro opinion polls even those with LD's at 9% show they will keep several seats because the decline is not uniform . London is pretty consistently the area with the highest LD % .Daniel said:
IMHO? no. Opinion polls have LD's at 9% - would lose all MEPs. UKIP very strong in South East, Greens have pockets of support in some areas. I expect Labour to dominate in London, along with Tories, UKIP and Greens - LD's will get drowned out.anotherDave said:Is it certain? Aren't the LD MEPs likely to hang on in London and the South East?
I cannot see, again my opinion, LD's doing well and gaining enough support to keep any seats.
But I'm more keen in the local elections; it is a perfect time to analysis just have strongly UKIP do take voters Labour. Council elections are predominately in Labour heartlands this year.
FWIW I have taken up a small wager with Paddypower that LD's will get 2 or more seats in the Euro elections at 5/6 .
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(OT) What was the song they were singing at the end of Nicola Sturgeon's speech at the SNP conference today? It was on the BBC news report, but it wasn't something obvious I could recognise .0
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Horst McWesselJohnLoony said:(OT) What was the song they were singing at the end of Nicola Sturgeon's speech at the SNP conference today? It was on the BBC news report, but it wasn't something obvious I could recognise .
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Wild Mountainside.JohnLoony said:(OT) What was the song they were singing at the end of Nicola Sturgeon's speech at the SNP conference today? It was on the BBC news report, but it wasn't something obvious I could recognise .
This is a nice version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2T9545bdm4&feature=kp
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Is that yet more mockney speak for another expenses story? It does seems apt for the incompetent fops.Alanbrooke said:
Mick fancy one up the jacksy ? No pressure.Mick_Pork said:
I believe the correct word you might be looking for is hypocrisy. Hardly a surprise on here by now though no less hilarious too see it proved so blatantly time after time after time.isam said:
A prize what?MarkSenior said:
Only a prize twit such as yourself would interpret my bet as resigning myself to LDs keeping two MEP'sStuart_Dickson said:
And there we have it folks: the Senioristas have resigned themselves to holding on to two MEPs. Oh, how we will laugh.MarkSenior said:
You were looking in a mirror as you posted that .Stuart_Dickson said:
Fess up you little fibber. You love sub-samples. They make you all moist and excited. You just cannot stand it when someone else gives them the look.MarkSenior said:
Nope you idiot , I am saying that any decline in the LD vote will not be uniform , it will be greater in say the West Midlands and less in say London .Stuart_Dickson said:
Ho ho. Mark is pinning his hopes on the sub-samples. What a chump.MarkSenior said:
All the Euro opinion polls even those with LD's at 9% show they will keep several seats because the decline is not uniform . London is pretty consistently the area with the highest LD % .Daniel said:
IMHO? no. Opinion polls have LD's at 9% - would lose all MEPs. UKIP very strong in South East, Greens have pockets of support in some areas. I expect Labour to dominate in London, along with Tories, UKIP and Greens - LD's will get drowned out.anotherDave said:Is it certain? Aren't the LD MEPs likely to hang on in London and the South East?
I cannot see, again my opinion, LD's doing well and gaining enough support to keep any seats.
But I'm more keen in the local elections; it is a perfect time to analysis just have strongly UKIP do take voters Labour. Council elections are predominately in Labour heartlands this year.
FWIW I have taken up a small wager with Paddypower that LD's will get 2 or more seats in the Euro elections at 5/6 .
Peter Smith @Redpeter99 1h
The most loyal supporter of Maria Miller was Peter Bone. Now it turns out Peter is being investigated too. What are the chances of that?
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Mick pucker up your prostrate I'm lovebombing you. Nikki Sturgeon, Nikkii Sinclair what's the difference ? Just close your eyes and think of Scotland,Mick_Pork said:
Is that yet more mockney speak for another expenses story? It does seems apt for the incompetent fops.Alanbrooke said:
Mick fancy one up the jacksy ? No pressure.Mick_Pork said:
I believe the corr it proved so blatantly time after time after time.isam said:
A prize what?MarkSenior said:
Only a prize twit such as yourself would interpret my bet as resigning myself to LDs keeping two MEP'sStuart_Dickson said:
And there we have it folks: the Senioristas have resigned themselves to holding on to two MEPs. Oh, how we will laugh.MarkSenior said:
You were looking in a mirror as you posted that .Stuart_Dickson said:
Fess up you little fibber. You love sub-samples. They make you all moist and excited. You just cannot stand it when someone else gives them the look.MarkSenior said:
Nope you idiot , I am saying that any decline in the LD vote will not be uniform , it will be greater in say the West Midlands and less in say London .Stuart_Dickson said:
Ho ho. Mark is pinning his hopes on the sub-samples. What a chump.MarkSenior said:
All the Euro opinion polls even those with LD's at 9% show they will keep several seats because the decline is not uniform . London is pretty consistently the area with the highest LD % .Daniel said:
IMHO? no. Opinion polls have LD's at 9% - would lose all MEPs. UKIP very strong in South East, Greens have pockets of support in some areas. I expect Labour to dominate in London, along with Tories, UKIP and Greens - LD's will get drowned out.anotherDave said:Is it certain? Aren't the LD MEPs likely to hang on in London and the South East?
I cannot see, again my opinion, LD's doing well and gaining enough support to keep any seats.
But I'm more kcil elections are predominately in Labour heartlands this year.
FWIW I have taken up a small wager with Paddypower that LD's will get 2 or more seats in the Euro elections at 5/6 .
Peter Smith @Redpeter99 1h
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It's not that simple. In addition to the lump sum allowances given to all MEPs, there is also money given to political groups within the EU Parliament. This group money is at least in part intended to fund political activity.rcs1000 said:
Whether the giving organisation is the EU or the British government it is all taxpayers money.isam said:
Haha!AveryLP said:
That College is a trougher sans pareil.isam said:
Anyone who read the thread would know that. He admits it.LogicalSong said:Ukip leader Nigel Farage boasts of his £2m in expenses
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2009/may/24/mps-expenses-ukip-nigel-farage
So what's your point?
I loved this bit from LogicalSong's linked 2009 article:
During a debate about Europe at the Foreign Press Association , ... , Farage was asked by former Europe minister Denis MacShane what he had received in non-salary expenses and allowances since becoming an MEP in 1999.
"It is a vast sum," Farage said. "I don't know what the total amount is but - oh lor - it must be pushing £2 million." Taken aback, MacShane then joked: "Is it too late to become an MEP?"
Shaned by MacShame!
How will College ever live it down?
Seems that non Kippers think claiming expenses from the British taxpayer for personal gain is the same as claiming the maximum allowance from the EU and using it to fund the party
So be it!
Its all out in the open, lets see what the public think is worse
(thought this UKIP expense thing had stopped when SeanFear stepped in.. well it certainly slowed to a drizzle)
If somebody used the Westminster expenses system to campaign for their re-election, I would be disgusted.
It is all taxpayers money. It is meant to reimburse people for out of pocket expenses they need to do their job.
If you are using it for any other reason, it is 'troughing'. If you steal from the taxpayer for a noble cause, it is still stealing.
Tell me, isam, would you support Gerry Adams using the Westminster allowances system to fund Sinn Fein?
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/aboutparliament/en/0081ddfaa4/MEPs.html0 -
A lament for what is now Wind Turbine Mountainside.Theuniondivvie said:
Wild Mountainside.JohnLoony said:(OT) What was the song they were singing at the end of Nicola Sturgeon's speech at the SNP conference today? It was on the BBC news report, but it wasn't something obvious I could recognise .
This is a nice version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2T9545bdm4&feature=kp
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If you really are this desperate for 'attention' you should do as you usually do by finding an offie to bribe a few of your fellow travellers with buckie while singing "the bluebells are blue".Alanbrooke said:
Mick pucker up your prostrate I'm lovebombing you.
Though I would suggest avoiding Kirkcaldy lest your 'lovebombing' be more than even you can handle.
*chortle*
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Mick it's you and only you that I want.Mick_Pork said:
If you really are this desperate for 'attention' you should do as you usually do by finding an offie to bribe a few of your fellow travellers with buckie while singing "the bluebells are blue".Alanbrooke said:
Mick pucker up your prostrate I'm lovebombing you.
Though I would suggest avoiding Kirkcaldy lest your 'lovebombing' be more than even you can handle.
*chortle*
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Daily Mail front page interesting for LDs.0
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Ampp3d @ampp3d 42m
8 out of 10 Tories wanted Miller out. Cameron can’t judge the mood of his own party let alone the rest of the country http://bit.ly/PHyHcR
That would certainly explain the PB Cameroons getting it so hilariously wrong. Yet again.0 -
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He means this presumably though the Indy has it too.anotherDave said:
http://www.politicshome.com/uk/article/96208/the_daily_mail_friday_11th_april_2014.html
Despite Calamity Clegg and Rennard it doesn't actually seem to be focused on any one party.0 -
Have I got bad news for Nige ?0
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Mick why bother with women - Eck doesn't - let's buy some leather thongs and head to Gretna.Mick_Pork said:Ampp3d @ampp3d 42m
8 out of 10 Tories wanted Miller out. Cameron can’t judge the mood of his own party let alone the rest of the country http://bit.ly/PHyHcR
That would certainly explain the PB Cameroons getting it so hilariously wrong. Yet again.
#Graeco-caledonianwrestling
Seriously it's totally macho.0 -
No it's a Cyril's Smith Lord Steele headline.0
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Good evening, everyone.
Fascinating to see how terribly complicated Diplomacy can get.0 -
@AlanBrooke
You'll find the help you're clearly looking for here. http://www.alcoholics-anonymous.org.uk/0
