No Deal is extremely high risk. It likely does result in a permanent discrediting of the entire Eurosceptic cause, and to our rejoining the EU on standard terms that will include joining the Euro, Schengen and full federalism.
Even Boris has said No Deal would not be a success but given diehard Remainers have refused 3 times to vote for the only Brexit Deal on the table if we go to No Deal it will be no more than they deserve for showing contempt for democracy and the biggest democratic vote in post war British history.
Note No Deal is also the first choice Brexit option for voters now with Yougov, followed by a renegotiated Boris Deal and Remain
No Deal is extremely high risk. It likely does result in a permanent discrediting of the entire Eurosceptic cause, and to our rejoining the EU on standard terms that will include joining the Euro, Schengen and full federalism.
No rational Leaver should go anywhere near it.
It wouldn't, at most it would lead to us rejoining the EEA
Those who depict the Tory leader as a British Trump (including the US president himself) underestimate his capacity for cowardice. He also likes to be liked, which is why he promises contradictory things to different people. As mayor of London, he could be persuaded to support and oppose the same idea in consecutive meetings. I have heard from a number of sources how Johnson, as foreign secretary, asked officials to explain the problem with Brexit and the Good Friday agreement, and decided that the solution was to hide the border in the Irish sea. Northern Ireland could be an exclave of regulatory alignment with Brussels – the original “Northern Ireland-only” backstop model proposed by the EU. Only when the DUP freaked out – and hardline Tory backbenchers cried betrayal – did Johnson recoil from customs checks at the port of Larne.
Even Boris has said No Deal eoukd not be a success but given diehard Remainers have refused 3 times to vote for the only Brexit Deal on the table if we go to No Deal it will be no more than they deserve for showing contempt for democracy and the biggest democratic vote in post war British history.
Note No Deal is also the first choice Brexit option for voters now with Yougov, followed by a renegotiated Boris Deal and Remain
Ah! Thank you. That's very interesting - could well be the solution. I had been wondering how they would protect against the 30-bar overpressures from 300m depth water.
Fascinating to see it was Reed the naval architect who thought of it (the chap who had a very hard tine because he refused to support the media campaign for HMS Captain which promptly turned turtle ...).
HMS Captain was a classic example of public opinion and domineering characters overturning experts, and ending in disaster.
It does make me wonder if Brexit is the HMS Captain of the 2010s. At least Coles did the decent thing and went down with the ship ...
Even Boris has said No Deal eoukd not be a success but given diehard Remainers have refused 3 times to vote for the only Brexit Deal on the table if we go to No Deal it will be no more than they deserve for showing contempt for democracy and the biggest democratic vote in post war British history.
Note No Deal is also the first choice Brexit option for voters now with Yougov, followed by a renegotiated Boris Deal and Remain
Even Boris has said No Deal eoukd not be a success but given diehard Remainers have refused 3 times to vote for the only Brexit Deal on the table if we go to No Deal it will be no more than they deserve for showing contempt for democracy and the biggest democratic vote in post war British history.
Note No Deal is also the first choice Brexit option for voters now with Yougov, followed by a renegotiated Boris Deal and Remain
I think the big danger with the Con government resigning and letting Corbyn take over is that he'll stick it out as long as he can before calling an election.
For HMQ to appoint him as PM he'll have to prove he has the confidence of the House.
That will mean both SNP and Lib-Dems having to promise to support him in a VONC and/or Queens Speech before he goes to Buckingham Palace.
The idea for example that HMQ could ask him to form a government on 19th October and then he gets no confidenced on 22nd October just after he's written the letter to the EU is crazy.
HMQ is not there to be played in this way and the country that already looks like it's totally lose the plot will look even madder (and why would Corbyn accept becoming PM for three days purely to write a letter and then let himself he defeated?)
Without assurances from SNP and Lib's he'd just tell HMQ he can't command a majority and he'd sit it out and see what happens.
So if Boris hands over to Corbyn expect him to be in power, supported by SNP and Lib-Dems, for at least six months and quite probably significantly longer.
Even Boris has said No Deal eoukd not be a success but given diehard Remainers have refused 3 times to vote for the only Brexit Deal on the table if we go to No Deal it will be no more than they deserve for showing contempt for democracy and the biggest democratic vote in post war British history.
Note No Deal is also the first choice Brexit option for voters now with Yougov, followed by a renegotiated Boris Deal and Remain
I think the big danger with the Con government resigning and letting Corbyn take over is that he'll stick it out as long as he can before calling an election.
For HMQ to appoint him as PM he'll have to prove he has the confidence of the House.
That will mean both SNP and Lib-Dems having to promise to support him in a VONC and/or Queens Speech before he goes to Buckingham Palace.
The idea for example that HMQ could ask him to form a gfovernment on 19th October and then he gets no confidenced on 22nd October just after he's written the letter is crazy. HMQ is not there to be played in this way and the country that already looks like it's totally lose the plot will look even madder (and why would Corbyn accept becoming PM for three days purely to write a letter and then let himself he defeated?)
Without assurances from SNP and Lib's he'd just tell HMQ he can't command a majority and he'd sit it out and see what happens.
So if Boris hands over to Corbyn expect him to be in power, supported by SNP and Lib-Dems, for at least six months and quite probably significantly longer.
He gets 14 days. That's already part of the protocol.
Even Boris has said No Deal eoukd not be a success but given diehard Remainers have refused 3 times to vote for the only Brexit Deal on the table if we go to No Deal it will be no more than they deserve for showing contempt for democracy and the biggest democratic vote in post war British history.
Note No Deal is also the first choice Brexit option for voters now with Yougov, followed by a renegotiated Boris Deal and Remain
I think the big danger with the Con government resigning and letting Corbyn take over is that he'll stick it out as long as he can before calling an election.
For HMQ to appoint him as PM he'll have to prove he has the confidence of the House.
That will mean both SNP and Lib-Dems having to promise to support him in a VONC and/or Queens Speech before he goes to Buckingham Palace.
The idea for example that HMQ could ask him to form a gfovernment on 19th October and then he gets no confidenced on 22nd October just after he's written the letter is crazy. HMQ is not there to be played in this way and the country that already looks like it's totally lose the plot will look even madder (and why would Corbyn accept becoming PM for three days purely to write a letter and then let himself he defeated?)
Without assurances from SNP and Lib's he'd just tell HMQ he can't command a majority and he'd sit it out and see what happens.
So if Boris hands over to Corbyn expect him to be in power, supported by SNP and Lib-Dems, for at least six months and quite probably significantly longer.
The Queen appointed Boris Johnson PM without him proving he had the confidence of the House.
Ah! Thank you. That's very interesting - could well be the solution. I had been wondering how they would protect against the 30-bar overpressures from 300m depth water.
Fascinating to see it was Reed the naval architect who thought of it (the chap who had a very hard tine because he refused to support the media campaign for HMS Captain which promptly turned turtle ...).
HMS Captain was a classic example of public opinion and domineering characters overturning experts, and ending in disaster.
It does make me wonder if Brexit is the HMS Captain of the 2010s. At least Coles did the decent thing and went down with the ship ...
As did two sons of the politicians/senior officers involved. Which is probably a moral for our times. As is the official inquiry conclusion, fide Wikipedia: "the Captain was built in deference to public opinion expressed in Parliament and through other channels, and in opposition to views and opinions of the Controller and his Department". Experts, eh?
I think the big danger with the Con government resigning and letting Corbyn take over is that he'll stick it out as long as he can before calling an election.
For HMQ to appoint him as PM he'll have to prove he has the confidence of the House.
That will mean both SNP and Lib-Dems having to promise to support him in a VONC and/or Queens Speech before he goes to Buckingham Palace.
The idea for example that HMQ could ask him to form a gfovernment on 19th October and then he gets no confidenced on 22nd October just after he's written the letter is crazy. HMQ is not there to be played in this way and the country that already looks like it's totally lose the plot will look even madder (and why would Corbyn accept becoming PM for three days purely to write a letter and then let himself he defeated?)
Without assurances from SNP and Lib's he'd just tell HMQ he can't command a majority and he'd sit it out and see what happens.
So if Boris hands over to Corbyn expect him to be in power, supported by SNP and Lib-Dems, for at least six months and quite probably significantly longer.
The Queen appointed Boris Johnson PM without him proving he had the confidence of the House.
Well at that point Con+DUP did reach a majroity (just)
That's fallen apart now but at the time he had a majority and Theresa May told HMQ to call Boris as he could command a mjaoity of the House (presumably Boris won't be recomending HMQ calls Jezza)
Even Boris has said No Deal would not be a success but given diehard Remainers have refused 3 times to vote for the only Brexit Deal on the table if we go to No Deal it will be no more than they deserve for showing contempt for democracy and the biggest democratic vote in post war British history.
Note No Deal is also the first choice Brexit option for voters now with Yougov, followed by a renegotiated Boris Deal and Remain
The Leave vote has splintered. That is what we are seeing! I suspect many who voted Leave are having second thoughts. Simply no longer worth the hassle. Chasing after the Leave vote for the next GE is like trying to find the end of a rainbow or mirage. The tide has turned and the Tories for instance are likley to be left on the shooreline. An interesting parellel to Brexit is when the miners strike came to a halt. I remember the way the miners marched claiming a moral victory when it was abundantly clear they had failed, if Brexit is cancelled the Brexiteers should honour the defeat but remember the cost of no deal would have been something totally unacceptable to UK society. A deal to Leave would have been acceptable, No Deal a catastrophy...
Even Boris has said No Deal would not be a success but given diehard Remainers have refused 3 times to vote for the only Brexit Deal on the table if we go to No Deal it will be no more than they deserve for showing contempt for democracy and the biggest democratic vote in post war British history.
Note No Deal is also the first choice Brexit option for voters now with Yougov, followed by a renegotiated Boris Deal and Remain
Leave-supporting MPs should have indeed voted for it. Yes, I agree with you there.
All MPs should have as a matter of course, if they meant what they said about honouring the result of the referendum. Unfortunately they are too full of their own self importance to do the right thing.
Clearly not as no deal has been ruled out without the say so of Parliament.
So tough. You can stuff your victim blaming bullsh*t.
Haha tough guy!
But the fact remains, the MPs who refused to respect the referendum result, despite being elected on a promise to do do, are to blame for the situation we are now in
Good of the DT to spin a NI backstop into something different . The Bozo fan rag would still be salivating over him if he said let’s stay in the single market and CU.
So desperate is the right wing press to claim victory for Bozo that he can bring any deal back .
No Deal is extremely high risk. It likely does result in a permanent discrediting of the entire Eurosceptic cause, and to our rejoining the EU on standard terms that will include joining the Euro, Schengen and full federalism.
No rational Leaver should go anywhere near it.
Which is why many Remainers are not very bothered whether it is No Deal or not.
Leave-supporting MPs should have indeed voted for it. Yes, I agree with you there.
All MPs should have as a matter of course, if they meant what they said about honouring the result of the referendum. Unfortunately they are too full of their own self importance to do the right thing.
If you wanted to leave, your fellow travellers in parliament had their chance to do it.
Leave-supporting MPs should have indeed voted for it. Yes, I agree with you there.
All MPs should have as a matter of course, if they meant what they said about honouring the result of the referendum. Unfortunately they are too full of their own self importance to do the right thing.
No. “Vote for this deal which is not what was in your manifestos or we’ll plunge the country into uncertainty and chaos and it will be all your fault”
The referendum did not have a time limit. It does not need to be implemented by an arbitrary date.
The only reason you guys are desperate to implement it now is because you know public opinion has turned and are terrified of losing your one chance for us to leave the EU.
Even Boris has said No Deal would not be a success but given diehard Remainers have refused 3 times to vote for the only Brexit Deal on the table if we go to No Deal it will be no more than they deserve for showing contempt for democracy and the biggest democratic vote in post war British history.
Note No Deal is also the first choice Brexit option for voters now with Yougov, followed by a renegotiated Boris Deal and Remain
Clearly not as no deal has been ruled out without the say so of Parliament.
So tough. You can stuff your victim blaming bullsh*t.
Haha tough guy!
But the fact remains, the MPs who refused to respect the referendum result, despite being elected on a promise to do do, are to blame for the situation we are now in
Even Boris has said No Deal would not be a success but given diehard Remainers have refused 3 times to vote for the only Brexit Deal on the table if we go to No Deal it will be no more than they deserve for showing contempt for democracy and the biggest democratic vote in post war British history.
Note No Deal is also the first choice Brexit option for voters now with Yougov, followed by a renegotiated Boris Deal and Remain
Nah. My understanding is that the act merely states that the ‘reason’ for the extension is to bring the WA back for a vote.
That is it.
It does not effect the length or acceptance of the extension.
If the reason for the extension is to bring the WA back for a vote then surely there's no need for an extension if the WA has already been brought back for a vote.
Even Boris has said No Deal eoukd not be a success but given diehard Remainers have refused 3 times to vote for the only Brexit Deal on the table if we go to No Deal it will be no more than they deserve for showing contempt for democracy and the biggest democratic vote in post war British history.
Note No Deal is also the first choice Brexit option for voters now with Yougov, followed by a renegotiated Boris Deal and Remain
Clearly not as no deal has been ruled out without the say so of Parliament.
So tough. You can stuff your victim blaming bullsh*t.
Haha tough guy!
But the fact remains, the MPs who refused to respect the referendum result, despite being elected on a promise to do do, are to blame for the situation we are now in
If the negotiations were cross party then Labour would have had to own any deal . The government acted as if it had a huge majority .
After 2017 a rethink was needed. The Tories own Brexit , lock stock and barrel .
A soft Brexit could have been delivered . That could have got a large majority of public support until the ERG nutjobs and the right wing press decided that no deal was allegedly the mandate .
Even Boris has said No Deal would not be a success but given diehard Remainers have refused 3 times to vote for the only Brexit Deal on the table if we go to No Deal it will be no more than they deserve for showing contempt for democracy and the biggest democratic vote in post war British history.
Note No Deal is also the first choice Brexit option for voters now with Yougov, followed by a renegotiated Boris Deal and Remain
The Leave vote has splintered. That is what we are seeing! I suspect many who voted Leave are having second thoughts. Simply no longer worth the hassle. Chasing after the Leave vote for the next GE is like trying to find the end of a rainbow or mirage. The tide has turned and the Tories for instance are likley to be left on the shooreline. An interesting parellel to Brexit is when the miners strike came to a halt. I remember the way the miners marched claiming a moral victory when it was abundantly clear they had failed, if Brexit is cancelled the Brexiteers should honour the defeat but remember the cost of no deal would have been something totally unacceptable to UK society. A deal to Leave would have been acceptable, No Deal a catastrophy...
If you think we will honour having democracy wrecked then you are utterly mad. You and your kind have done your best to overturn a democratic vote and you will reap what you sowed. There will be no peace and no reconciliation.
It seems a long time ago that ComRes were predicting a 150 seat landslide for Boris Johnson during the Tory leadership contest.
Comres swings all over the place and has the highest Labour figures of any pollster, of course any Boris win depends on him committing to deliver Brexit
The deal could be amended to include a second EU ref . So could blow up in Bozos face.
If Leavers are so confident that they are still in the majority, why are they so frit by a second referendum?
Is it because they might lose?
They are the biggest chickens around. Growth hormones and all.
It is because you dont just re-run polls you lose.
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Not really. Im not afraid of a second poll. I voted remain the first time but would certainly vote leave now.
But i recognise the immense damage such a vote would do.
Haha. If public opinion hasn’t changed there is nothing to lose by having a 2nd ref. If it has changed, then why should we implement something the public doesn’t want?
The Leave vote has splintered. That is what we are seeing! I suspect many who voted Leave are having second thoughts. Simply no longer worth the hassle. Chasing after the Leave vote for the next GE is like trying to find the end of a rainbow or mirage. The tide has turned and the Tories for instance are likley to be left on the shooreline. An interesting parellel to Brexit is when the miners strike came to a halt. I remember the way the miners marched claiming a moral victory when it was abundantly clear they had failed, if Brexit is cancelled the Brexiteers should honour the defeat but remember the cost of no deal would have been something totally unacceptable to UK society. A deal to Leave would have been acceptable, No Deal a catastrophy...
If you think we will honour having democracy wrecked then you are utterly mad. You and your kind have done your best to overturn a democratic vote and you will reap what you sowed. There will be no peace and no reconciliation.
Yawn. It is deathcult leavers who are doing this. Feel the guilt.
The deal could be amended to include a second EU ref . So could blow up in Bozos face.
If Leavers are so confident that they are still in the majority, why are they so frit by a second referendum?
Is it because they might lose?
They are the biggest chickens around. Growth hormones and all.
It is because you dont just re-run polls you lose.
🐔
Not really. Im not afraid of a second poll. I voted remain the first time but would certainly vote leave now.
But i recognise the immense damage such a vote would do.
Leavers would of course not accept defeat but on the very next day just step up the aggression exactly as diehard Remainers refused to accept the result of the first vote
The Leave vote has splintered. That is what we are seeing! I suspect many who voted Leave are having second thoughts. Simply no longer worth the hassle. Chasing after the Leave vote for the next GE is like trying to find the end of a rainbow or mirage. The tide has turned and the Tories for instance are likley to be left on the shooreline. An interesting parellel to Brexit is when the miners strike came to a halt. I remember the way the miners marched claiming a moral victory when it was abundantly clear they had failed, if Brexit is cancelled the Brexiteers should honour the defeat but remember the cost of no deal would have been something totally unacceptable to UK society. A deal to Leave would have been acceptable, No Deal a catastrophy...
If you think we will honour having democracy wrecked then you are utterly mad. You and your kind have done your best to overturn a democratic vote and you will reap what you sowed. There will be no peace and no reconciliation.
There is no damage caused by having a 2nd ref. That is nonsense. The only damage will be to sore loser Leavers who can’t accept that the public no longer wants Brexit after seeing the reality.
The deal could be amended to include a second EU ref . So could blow up in Bozos face.
If Leavers are so confident that they are still in the majority, why are they so frit by a second referendum?
Is it because they might lose?
They are the biggest chickens around. Growth hormones and all.
It is because you dont just re-run polls you lose.
🐔
Not really. Im not afraid of a second poll. I voted remain the first time but would certainly vote leave now.
But i recognise the immense damage such a vote would do.
Haha. If public opinion hasn’t changed there is nothing to lose by having a 2nd ref. If it has changed, then why should we implement something the public doesn’t want?
Frit. Frit. Frit.
I really am not. And the point is a simple one. Of principle. You dont re-run polls just because you lose. If you treat the referendum result as somehow illegitimate then why should any leaver in future accept a poll result they dont agree with?
It seems a long time ago that ComRes were predicting a 150 seat landslide for Boris Johnson during the Tory leadership contest.
Comres swings all over the place and has the highest Labour figures of any pollster, of course any Boris win depends on him committing to deliver Brexit
Er... Are the current uninspiring Tory poll figures due to Boris being a bit flaky on Brexit?
There is no damage caused by having a 2nd ref. That is nonsense. The only damage will be to sore loser Leavers who can’t accept that the public no longer wants Brexit after seeing the reality.
The Leave vote has splintered. That is what we are seeing! I suspect many who voted Leave are having second thoughts. Simply no longer worth the hassle. Chasing after the Leave vote for the next GE is like trying to find the end of a rainbow or mirage. The tide has turned and the Tories for instance are likley to be left on the shooreline. An interesting parellel to Brexit is when the miners strike came to a halt. I remember the way the miners marched claiming a moral victory when it was abundantly clear they had failed, if Brexit is cancelled the Brexiteers should honour the defeat but remember the cost of no deal would have been something totally unacceptable to UK society. A deal to Leave would have been acceptable, No Deal a catastrophy...
There's no evidence of that from the headline numbers in the opinion polls. The Conservative + Brexit Party aggregate is steady in the range 44-49% so if the Tories have lost some moderate Remain support it has been balanced by Leavers leaving Labour in the other direction.
The deal could be amended to include a second EU ref . So could blow up in Bozos face.
If Leavers are so confident that they are still in the majority, why are they so frit by a second referendum?
Is it because they might lose?
They are the biggest chickens around. Growth hormones and all.
It is because you dont just re-run polls you lose.
🐔
Not really. Im not afraid of a second poll. I voted remain the first time but would certainly vote leave now.
But i recognise the immense damage such a vote would do.
Haha. If public opinion hasn’t changed there is nothing to lose by having a 2nd ref. If it has changed, then why should we implement something the public doesn’t want?
Frit. Frit. Frit.
I really am not. And the point is a simple one. Of principle. You dont re-run polls just because you lose. If you treat the referendum result as somehow illegitimate then why should any leaver in future accept a poll result they dont agree with?
Who cares if future votes are reran? If public opinion hasn’t changed then neither will the result.
It seems a long time ago that ComRes were predicting a 150 seat landslide for Boris Johnson during the Tory leadership contest.
Comres swings all over the place and has the highest Labour figures of any pollster, of course any Boris win depends on him committing to deliver Brexit
Pre-Boris the tories polled circa 10% in the euros.
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No rational Leaver should go anywhere near it.
Note No Deal is also the first choice Brexit option for voters now with Yougov, followed by a renegotiated Boris Deal and Remain
https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1169518242064474112?s=20
Those who depict the Tory leader as a British Trump (including the US president himself) underestimate his capacity for cowardice. He also likes to be liked, which is why he promises contradictory things to different people. As mayor of London, he could be persuaded to support and oppose the same idea in consecutive meetings. I have heard from a number of sources how Johnson, as foreign secretary, asked officials to explain the problem with Brexit and the Good Friday agreement, and decided that the solution was to hide the border in the Irish sea. Northern Ireland could be an exclave of regulatory alignment with Brussels – the original “Northern Ireland-only” backstop model proposed by the EU. Only when the DUP freaked out – and hardline Tory backbenchers cried betrayal – did Johnson recoil from customs checks at the port of Larne.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/sep/10/boris-johnson-brexit-theresa-may-withdrawal-agreement
It does make me wonder if Brexit is the HMS Captain of the 2010s. At least Coles did the decent thing and went down with the ship ...
https://reaction.life/what-if-dominic-cummings-is-right/
I think the big danger with the Con government resigning and letting Corbyn take over is that he'll stick it out as long as he can before calling an election.
For HMQ to appoint him as PM he'll have to prove he has the confidence of the House.
That will mean both SNP and Lib-Dems having to promise to support him in a VONC and/or Queens Speech before he goes to Buckingham Palace.
The idea for example that HMQ could ask him to form a government on 19th October and then he gets no confidenced on 22nd October just after he's written the letter to the EU is crazy.
HMQ is not there to be played in this way and the country that already looks like it's totally lose the plot will look even madder (and why would Corbyn accept becoming PM for three days purely to write a letter and then let himself he defeated?)
Without assurances from SNP and Lib's he'd just tell HMQ he can't command a majority and he'd sit it out and see what happens.
So if Boris hands over to Corbyn expect him to be in power, supported by SNP and Lib-Dems, for at least six months and quite probably significantly longer.
That's fallen apart now but at the time he had a majority and Theresa May told HMQ to call Boris as he could command a mjaoity of the House (presumably Boris won't be recomending HMQ calls Jezza)
QTWTAIN
That is it.
It does not effect the length or acceptance of the extension.
So tough. You can stuff your victim blaming bullsh*t.
Total chaos and probable disaster now awaits IMO.
Is it because they might lose?
Regardless of what the question might be, that’s a new low for a once-great newspaper.
But the fact remains, the MPs who refused to respect the referendum result, despite being elected on a promise to do do, are to blame for the situation we are now in
So desperate is the right wing press to claim victory for Bozo that he can bring any deal back .
"Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?"
They chose not to.
The referendum did not have a time limit. It does not need to be implemented by an arbitrary date.
The only reason you guys are desperate to implement it now is because you know public opinion has turned and are terrified of losing your one chance for us to leave the EU.
You call Corbyn frit but its you that are frit.
Plus given you spent most of the referendum campaign screaming 'BeLeave in Britain' I would have hoped you would now agree that Boris is?
Goodness gracious...Lib Dems Down, Labour 1 point behind...
@HYUFD to pop along soon to explain that Baxter gives the Tories a majority of 50, or something.
Tories 286
Labour 250
Lib Dems 29
Brexit 1
Green surge, taking votes off the Liberals in yellow-blue marginals.
After 2017 a rethink was needed. The Tories own Brexit , lock stock and barrel .
A soft Brexit could have been delivered . That could have got a large majority of public support until the ERG nutjobs and the right wing press decided that no deal was allegedly the mandate .
That's parties plural. Until and unless the EU agree to it, it is not a 'deal'.
But i recognise the immense damage such a vote would do.
41 short of a majority I believe; 285 Con MPs so three less than today.
Your posts are consistent (some might even say "relentless") on the topic. But what would be the actual effects of such a no deal scenario?
Frit. Frit. Frit.
If public opinion has not changed then you have nothing to fear.
I wish it were otherwise, but I don't see it.
Doesnt look like its a failing strategy to me....