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He's been looking a bit corpulent lately, must be the snacking outside meal times.SirNorfolkPassmore said:
Disgraceful contempt for Parliament from IDS. The convention for centuries - centuries - as stated by Dicey is "pick it, lick it, roll it, and flick it (ideally at a Lib Dem)". He should know this - it's basic.Theuniondivvie said:Rich pickings tonight.
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A hearing trumpet, perhaps?williamglenn said:Has Rees-Mogg tried wearing a hearing aid?
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Red Card.surbiton19 said:
Johnson = WatfordAve_it said:Lol Caroline Lucas is awful. A screeching harridan who has no place in Parliament just like her party
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DIVISION. UNLOCK!0
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You have?! You are very good at not saying anything memorable or interesting or worthwhile or insightful or intelligent, ever, in 14 years. Impressive!Beibheirli_C said:
Yes, I know you have. I have been here almost as long.Ave_it said:
Hahaha! I have been posting here since 2005!Beibheirli_C said:0 -
Today has been a dreadful for Boris and the government. The HOC has been painful to watch and Boris will lose tonight and who knows if he gets an election
So success to the HOC but who wins the public debate that follows ?
I will wait and see but tempers and attitudes on here have been quite unpleasant at times from both sides and it is time to dial it down and chill
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Of course. Boris rules ok. Good moderate person doing his best for BritainGIN1138 said:
Ave It!!!!!!!!!!!!Ave_it said:
Hahaha! I have been posting here since 2005!Beibheirli_C said:
Boris GAIN Bootle at the next election?1 -
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Nonsense. You can see quite clearly his lips are closed.dr_spyn said:0 -
How long do they have to cast their vote ?0
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and master debaters.TheScreamingEagles said:
They are master strategists.AlastairMeeks said:
They’re wondering that now...?TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
AgreedTheScreamingEagles said:I've been making this point today
https://twitter.com/ariehkovler/status/11689893853390930000 -
You would be assuming a level of honour that does not apply to the PM.TheScreamingEagles said:I've been making this point today
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Actually, I think it was the idea of creating a lot of new Brexiteer peers.kle4 said:0 -
Aaah. So it is confirmed you are not Sean T. He has been aware of my posting for many years as he is a long server too . You are clearly a newbie and stand poor comparison to the mighty SeanByronic said:
You have?! You are very good at not saying anything memorable or interesting or worthwhile or insightful or intelligent, ever, in 14 years. Impressive!Beibheirli_C said:
Yes, I know you have. I have been here almost as long.Ave_it said:
Hahaha! I have been posting here since 2005!Beibheirli_C said:0 -
"Team May" showing whose side they were on all along. No wonder her administration was such a dismal failure.AlastairMeeks said:
What's remarkable is actually how few rebels there are. It's not remotely half the party.0 -
Can we prorogue or guillotine this thread? Comfortably the longest in living memory...0
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The risible Bunter would doubtless have done even worse.Scott_P said:0 -
Labour will be disappointedTheScreamingEagles said:
Cummings couldn't organise a pregnancy on a council estate.Scott_P said:Cumming wargamed this...
https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/11689798737817681940 -
This ain’t going to be close.
16 wets out of the game.0 -
Not sure I get all these people who are saying its "terrible" , "dreadful" etc for Boris?Big_G_NorthWales said:Today has been a dreadful for Boris and the government. The HOC has been painful to watch and Boris will lose tonight and who knows if he gets an election
So success to the HOC but who wins the public debate that follows ?
I will wait and see but tempers and attitudes on here have been quite unpleasant at times from both sides and it is time to dial it down and chill
Good night folks
He must have KNOWN this is how his "die or die" Brexit policy would end. If he had wanted a compromise approach he'd have done a Hunt and been much more wishy washy in the hustings.
He'd have kept Gauke and Hammond in the Cabinet etc?
This is exactly what he must have known would be the response to his policy so we have to think it's going to end exactly how he expected and wanted?0 -
Precisely. If he wants that election, he's going to have to resign. Then he can no confidence his successor, with a good chance of pulling it off. The need for a two-thirds majority is thus replaced with 50%+1.TheScreamingEagles said:I've been making this point today
https://twitter.com/ariehkovler/status/1168989385339093000
If No.10 hasn't thought this one through already then they're clearly very inept.0 -
New thread coming up shortly after the vote.Ishmael_Z said:Can we prorogue or guillotine this thread? Comfortably the longest in living memory...
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Could Johnson "get a deal" with the EU, bring it back to HoC to ratify it , but whip his MPs to vote against?DanSmith said:
Johnson has to get a deal.surbiton19 said:What happens:
- if Rebels/Opposition win tonight and pass No No-Deal bill tomorrow
- Johnson also cannot get FTPA election through
Limbo ? Specially if they withdraw the whip of 15 MPs.
Thus forcing the Commons to make a Deal/No Deal choice, with remainer finger prints all over the deal if they don't want No Deal to win?0 -
Guess they won’t be Tories anymore!Scott_P said:0 -
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Was he actually talking to you, though?Ave_it said:
Aaah. So it is confirmed you are not Sean T. He has been aware of my posting for many years as he is a long server too . You are clearly a newbie and stand poor comparison to the mighty SeanByronic said:
You have?! You are very good at not saying anything memorable or interesting or worthwhile or insightful or intelligent, ever, in 14 years. Impressive!Beibheirli_C said:
Yes, I know you have. I have been here almost as long.Ave_it said:
Hahaha! I have been posting here since 2005!Beibheirli_C said:0 -
I suspect the “war games” probably went as far as a VONC after the proroguation which they probably thought was nailed on. It’s hard to believe tonight’s events were part of their plan.TheScreamingEagles said:
Cummings couldn't organise a pregnancy on a council estate.Scott_P said:Cumming wargamed this...
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They should start a new party and call themselves... The Toriesnumbertwelve said:
Guess they won’t be Tories anymore!Scott_P said:
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So if the Tories are going to expel all the MPs who vote against the government or even abstain, it looks as though from now on there will be a majority of about 30 of opposition over Con+DUP?Scott_P said:0 -
TheScreamingEagles said:
New thread coming up shortly after the vote.Ishmael_Z said:Can we prorogue or guillotine this thread? Comfortably the longest in living memory...
I hope OGH is enjoying his holiday!
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That was suggested?!Philip_Thompson said:
"Team May" showing whose side they were on all along. No wonder her administration was such a dismal failure.AlastairMeeks said:
What's remarkable is actually how few rebels there are. It's not remotely half the party.
There were only 34 rebels on MV3, yet people are entranced by the 28 or so of them regarded as the true voice of the party.0 -
Some of the AV threads felt longer.Ishmael_Z said:Can we prorogue or guillotine this thread? Comfortably the longest in living memory...
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Prediction: Ayes by 180
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If the Commons rejects an early election he's given him confidence back.TheScreamingEagles said:I've been making this point today
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Yes. Clearly I was referring to Beibhherliagh Cc, not the estimable Ave It, long of this manor.Ishmael_Z said:
Was he actually talking to you, though?Ave_it said:
Aaah. So it is confirmed you are not Sean T. He has been aware of my posting for many years as he is a long server too . You are clearly a newbie and stand poor comparison to the mighty SeanByronic said:
You have?! You are very good at not saying anything memorable or interesting or worthwhile or insightful or intelligent, ever, in 14 years. Impressive!Beibheirli_C said:
Yes, I know you have. I have been here almost as long.Ave_it said:
Hahaha! I have been posting here since 2005!Beibheirli_C said:0 -
One theory is that he is Tim playing SeanT playing Tim playing SeanT.Ave_it said:
Aaah. So it is confirmed you are not Sean T. He has been aware of my posting for many years as he is a long server too . You are clearly a newbie and stand poor comparison to the mighty SeanByronic said:
You have?! You are very good at not saying anything memorable or interesting or worthwhile or insightful or intelligent, ever, in 14 years. Impressive!Beibheirli_C said:
Yes, I know you have. I have been here almost as long.Ave_it said:
Hahaha! I have been posting here since 2005!Beibheirli_C said:1 -
You surely have not prejudged the outcome? It is sure to be a surprise!TheScreamingEagles said:
New thread coming up shortly after the vote.Ishmael_Z said:Can we prorogue or guillotine this thread? Comfortably the longest in living memory...
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Including Rory Stewart? 😁TGOHF said:This ain’t going to be close.
16 wets out of the game.0 -
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One Nation would be better!Benpointer said:
They should start a new party and call themselves... The Toriesnumbertwelve said:
Guess they won’t be Tories anymore!Scott_P said: 0 -
We could do with a post or two from Tim at a time like this.Anabobazina said:
One theory is that he is Tim playing SeanT playing Tim playing SeanT.Ave_it said:
Aaah. So it is confirmed you are not Sean T. He has been aware of my posting for many years as he is a long server too . You are clearly a newbie and stand poor comparison to the mighty SeanByronic said:
You have?! You are very good at not saying anything memorable or interesting or worthwhile or insightful or intelligent, ever, in 14 years. Impressive!Beibheirli_C said:
Yes, I know you have. I have been here almost as long.Ave_it said:
Hahaha! I have been posting here since 2005!Beibheirli_C said:0 -
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There were 118 on MV1.kle4 said:
That was suggested?!Philip_Thompson said:
"Team May" showing whose side they were on all along. No wonder her administration was such a dismal failure.AlastairMeeks said:
What's remarkable is actually how few rebels there are. It's not remotely half the party.
There were only 34 rebels on MV3, yet people are entranced by the 28 or so of them regarded as the true voice of the party.
These rebels today like to claim they are the "moderate" or "sane" wing of the party but simple fact is they were extremist outliers.0 -
It's a far easier job when you only have to count to 47...46....45Scott_P said:0 -
https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1168981967469256704?ref_src=twsrc^tfw
This presumably is Johnson's best shot now. But he will presumably need to fast-track the Delay legislation so he can move the election before prorogation kicks in0 -
He has written two headers, in the Boris Johnson tradition.kle4 said:
You surely have not prejudged the outcome? It is sure to be a surprise!TheScreamingEagles said:
New thread coming up shortly after the vote.Ishmael_Z said:Can we prorogue or guillotine this thread? Comfortably the longest in living memory...
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I miss Tim. He was a Labour poster with humour and wit. Totally absent from the left on here now0
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I'm assuming Mrs May didn't go through the Labour lobby, in the end?0
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Honestly Sunil, everyone knows it's prine nimisters questioms.Sunil_Prasannan said:0 -
AV or pizza toppings?TheScreamingEagles said:
New thread coming up shortly after the vote.Ishmael_Z said:Can we prorogue or guillotine this thread? Comfortably the longest in living memory...
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Darn, they called the vote earlier than expected.0
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It was an easy gag to make, but still a good one.Ishmael_Z said:
He has written two headers, in the Boris Johnson tradition.kle4 said:
You surely have not prejudged the outcome? It is sure to be a surprise!TheScreamingEagles said:
New thread coming up shortly after the vote.Ishmael_Z said:Can we prorogue or guillotine this thread? Comfortably the longest in living memory...
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Jarrow is in South Tyneside which voted 62% LeaveScott_P said:0 -
One thing I've learned in recent years is not to write threads in advance of major votes/elections.kle4 said:
You surely have not prejudged the outcome? It is sure to be a surprise!TheScreamingEagles said:
New thread coming up shortly after the vote.Ishmael_Z said:Can we prorogue or guillotine this thread? Comfortably the longest in living memory...
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That is a great big whinge. Major parties have contested against speaker's in the past. Bercow, as a believer that precedents are not forever and appropriateness of them should be considered, would surely agree it is ok for them to stand against him without it being a constitutional outrage.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
is it evil to put banana on Pizza?Peter_the_Punter said:
AV or pizza toppings?TheScreamingEagles said:
New thread coming up shortly after the vote.Ishmael_Z said:Can we prorogue or guillotine this thread? Comfortably the longest in living memory...
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I said this earlier. Whether this legislation passes is moot, its the election result that matters.FF43 said:https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1168981967469256704?ref_src=twsrc^tfw
This presumably is Johnson's best shot now. But he will presumably need to fast-track the Delay legislation so he can move the election before prorogation kicks in0 -
Who defected to the LibDems?0
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Does he talk to anyone? I thought he just raged at the keyboard fuelled by supposedly expensive £10,000 bottles of vino??Ishmael_Z said:
Was he actually talking to you, though?Ave_it said:
Aaah. So it is confirmed you are not Sean T. He has been aware of my posting for many years as he is a long server too . You are clearly a newbie and stand poor comparison to the mighty SeanByronic said:
You have?! You are very good at not saying anything memorable or interesting or worthwhile or insightful or intelligent, ever, in 14 years. Impressive!Beibheirli_C said:
Yes, I know you have. I have been here almost as long.Ave_it said:
Hahaha! I have been posting here since 2005!Beibheirli_C said:0 -
Prediction: Ayes 325, Noes 295.0
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Banana and bacon pizza is great. My wife introduced me to that and it is surprisingly good.spudgfsh said:
is it evil to put banana on Pizza?Peter_the_Punter said:
AV or pizza toppings?TheScreamingEagles said:
New thread coming up shortly after the vote.Ishmael_Z said:Can we prorogue or guillotine this thread? Comfortably the longest in living memory...
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Speculation it’s close0
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This is nearly exciting as the fourth day of the Headingley test.0
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LOL, atleast one PBer was at work todaySunil_Prasannan said:Who defected to the LibDems?
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What election?Philip_Thompson said:
I said this earlier. Whether this legislation passes is moot, its the election result that matters.FF43 said:https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1168981967469256704?ref_src=twsrc^tfw
This presumably is Johnson's best shot now. But he will presumably need to fast-track the Delay legislation so he can move the election before prorogation kicks in0 -
Banana??? splutter!!!!Philip_Thompson said:
Banana and bacon pizza is great. My wife introduced me to that and it is surprisingly good.spudgfsh said:
is it evil to put banana on Pizza?Peter_the_Punter said:
AV or pizza toppings?TheScreamingEagles said:
New thread coming up shortly after the vote.Ishmael_Z said:Can we prorogue or guillotine this thread? Comfortably the longest in living memory...
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It's only been "convention" since 1974... And Bercow is the one that's refused to quit after promising he'd stand down after nine years... In 2009TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Boris to lose his first vote as PM?
Maybe he should have tried harder, put a bit of pressure on his MPs etc.0 -
how ripe were the bananas, nearly green or nearly black... these things are important to know...Philip_Thompson said:
Banana and bacon pizza is great. My wife introduced me to that and it is surprisingly good.spudgfsh said:
is it evil to put banana on Pizza?Peter_the_Punter said:
AV or pizza toppings?TheScreamingEagles said:
New thread coming up shortly after the vote.Ishmael_Z said:Can we prorogue or guillotine this thread? Comfortably the longest in living memory...
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I was just thinking how much the photo in the header looks like a Victorian oil painting - Bercow especially.Scott_P said:0 -
Cheers AveIt!Ave_it said:I miss Tim. He was a Labour poster with humour and wit. Totally absent from the left on here now
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It was Theresa May, surprisngly enough.Sunil_Prasannan said:Who defected to the LibDems?
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Good. If he wants to be the leader of the opposition, he can expect the government to stand against him.TheScreamingEagles said:0
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TheScreamingEagles said:
What an utter helmet0 -
Which way is aye and neigh?0
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Lol
There’s a clearly drunk Scot Nat MP trying to “fight” her way to a seat0 -
Delay suggest a close result, which wasn't expected.0
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Good on him to admit it to be honest.Anabobazina said:0
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