Disgraceful contempt for Parliament from IDS. The convention for centuries - centuries - as stated by Dicey is "pick it, lick it, roll it, and flick it (ideally at a Lib Dem)". He should know this - it's basic.
He's been looking a bit corpulent lately, must be the snacking outside meal times.
Lol Caroline Lucas is awful. A screeching harridan who has no place in Parliament just like her party
Sexist arse?
Tame troll IMO. He only turns up for stuff like this.
Many on here like it.
Hahaha! I have been posting here since 2005!
Yes, I know you have. I have been here almost as long.
You have?! You are very good at not saying anything memorable or interesting or worthwhile or insightful or intelligent, ever, in 14 years. Impressive!
Today has been a dreadful for Boris and the government. The HOC has been painful to watch and Boris will lose tonight and who knows if he gets an election
So success to the HOC but who wins the public debate that follows ?
I will wait and see but tempers and attitudes on here have been quite unpleasant at times from both sides and it is time to dial it down and chill
So the BBC is now reporting that the government is trying to prevent the bill getting through the Lords by tabling 90 amendments to the business motion.
Lucky the government hasn't pissed off the Lord's Speaker...
So the BBC is now reporting that the government is trying to prevent the bill getting through the Lords by tabling 90 amendments to the business motion.
Lucky the government hasn't pissed off the Lord's Speaker...
So the BBC is now reporting that the government is trying to prevent the bill getting through the Lords by tabling 90 amendments to the business motion.
Lucky the government hasn't pissed off the Lord's Speaker...
How did they annoy Norman?
Prorogation
Actually, I think it was the idea of creating a lot of new Brexiteer peers.
Lol Caroline Lucas is awful. A screeching harridan who has no place in Parliament just like her party
Sexist arse?
Tame troll IMO. He only turns up for stuff like this.
Many on here like it.
Hahaha! I have been posting here since 2005!
Yes, I know you have. I have been here almost as long.
You have?! You are very good at not saying anything memorable or interesting or worthwhile or insightful or intelligent, ever, in 14 years. Impressive!
Aaah. So it is confirmed you are not Sean T. He has been aware of my posting for many years as he is a long server too . You are clearly a newbie and stand poor comparison to the mighty Sean
So the BBC is now reporting that the government is trying to prevent the bill getting through the Lords by tabling 90 amendments to the business motion.
Lucky the government hasn't pissed off the Lord's Speaker...
How did they annoy Norman?
Prorogation
Actually, I think it was the idea of creating a lot of new Brexiteer peers.
Ah yes, so it was. My mistake, there's been so much going on to get annoyed about.
Today has been a dreadful for Boris and the government. The HOC has been painful to watch and Boris will lose tonight and who knows if he gets an election
So success to the HOC but who wins the public debate that follows ?
I will wait and see but tempers and attitudes on here have been quite unpleasant at times from both sides and it is time to dial it down and chill
Good night folks
Not sure I get all these people who are saying its "terrible" , "dreadful" etc for Boris?
He must have KNOWN this is how his "die or die" Brexit policy would end. If he had wanted a compromise approach he'd have done a Hunt and been much more wishy washy in the hustings.
He'd have kept Gauke and Hammond in the Cabinet etc?
This is exactly what he must have known would be the response to his policy so we have to think it's going to end exactly how he expected and wanted?
Precisely. If he wants that election, he's going to have to resign. Then he can no confidence his successor, with a good chance of pulling it off. The need for a two-thirds majority is thus replaced with 50%+1.
If No.10 hasn't thought this one through already then they're clearly very inept.
What happens: - if Rebels/Opposition win tonight and pass No No-Deal bill tomorrow - Johnson also cannot get FTPA election through
Limbo ? Specially if they withdraw the whip of 15 MPs.
Johnson has to get a deal.
Could Johnson "get a deal" with the EU, bring it back to HoC to ratify it , but whip his MPs to vote against? Thus forcing the Commons to make a Deal/No Deal choice, with remainer finger prints all over the deal if they don't want No Deal to win?
Lol Caroline Lucas is awful. A screeching harridan who has no place in Parliament just like her party
Sexist arse?
Tame troll IMO. He only turns up for stuff like this.
Many on here like it.
Hahaha! I have been posting here since 2005!
Yes, I know you have. I have been here almost as long.
You have?! You are very good at not saying anything memorable or interesting or worthwhile or insightful or intelligent, ever, in 14 years. Impressive!
Aaah. So it is confirmed you are not Sean T. He has been aware of my posting for many years as he is a long server too . You are clearly a newbie and stand poor comparison to the mighty Sean
Cummings couldn't organise a pregnancy on a council estate.
I suspect the “war games” probably went as far as a VONC after the proroguation which they probably thought was nailed on. It’s hard to believe tonight’s events were part of their plan.
So if the Tories are going to expel all the MPs who vote against the government or even abstain, it looks as though from now on there will be a majority of about 30 of opposition over Con+DUP?
So if the Tories are going to expel all the MPs who vote against the government or even abstain, it looks as though from now on there will be a majority of about 30 of opposition over Con+DUP?
Lol Caroline Lucas is awful. A screeching harridan who has no place in Parliament just like her party
Sexist arse?
Tame troll IMO. He only turns up for stuff like this.
Many on here like it.
Hahaha! I have been posting here since 2005!
Yes, I know you have. I have been here almost as long.
You have?! You are very good at not saying anything memorable or interesting or worthwhile or insightful or intelligent, ever, in 14 years. Impressive!
Aaah. So it is confirmed you are not Sean T. He has been aware of my posting for many years as he is a long server too . You are clearly a newbie and stand poor comparison to the mighty Sean
Was he actually talking to you, though?
Yes. Clearly I was referring to Beibhherliagh Cc, not the estimable Ave It, long of this manor.
Lol Caroline Lucas is awful. A screeching harridan who has no place in Parliament just like her party
Sexist arse?
Tame troll IMO. He only turns up for stuff like this.
Many on here like it.
Hahaha! I have been posting here since 2005!
Yes, I know you have. I have been here almost as long.
You have?! You are very good at not saying anything memorable or interesting or worthwhile or insightful or intelligent, ever, in 14 years. Impressive!
Aaah. So it is confirmed you are not Sean T. He has been aware of my posting for many years as he is a long server too . You are clearly a newbie and stand poor comparison to the mighty Sean
One theory is that he is Tim playing SeanT playing Tim playing SeanT.
Lol Caroline Lucas is awful. A screeching harridan who has no place in Parliament just like her party
Sexist arse?
Tame troll IMO. He only turns up for stuff like this.
Many on here like it.
Hahaha! I have been posting here since 2005!
Yes, I know you have. I have been here almost as long.
You have?! You are very good at not saying anything memorable or interesting or worthwhile or insightful or intelligent, ever, in 14 years. Impressive!
Aaah. So it is confirmed you are not Sean T. He has been aware of my posting for many years as he is a long server too . You are clearly a newbie and stand poor comparison to the mighty Sean
One theory is that he is Tim playing SeanT playing Tim playing SeanT.
We could do with a post or two from Tim at a time like this.
This presumably is Johnson's best shot now. But he will presumably need to fast-track the Delay legislation so he can move the election before prorogation kicks in
That is a great big whinge. Major parties have contested against speaker's in the past. Bercow, as a believer that precedents are not forever and appropriateness of them should be considered, would surely agree it is ok for them to stand against him without it being a constitutional outrage.
This presumably is Johnson's best shot now. But he will presumably need to fast-track the Delay legislation so he can move the election before prorogation kicks in
I said this earlier. Whether this legislation passes is moot, its the election result that matters.
Lol Caroline Lucas is awful. A screeching harridan who has no place in Parliament just like her party
Sexist arse?
Tame troll IMO. He only turns up for stuff like this.
Many on here like it.
Hahaha! I have been posting here since 2005!
Yes, I know you have. I have been here almost as long.
You have?! You are very good at not saying anything memorable or interesting or worthwhile or insightful or intelligent, ever, in 14 years. Impressive!
Aaah. So it is confirmed you are not Sean T. He has been aware of my posting for many years as he is a long server too . You are clearly a newbie and stand poor comparison to the mighty Sean
Was he actually talking to you, though?
Does he talk to anyone? I thought he just raged at the keyboard fuelled by supposedly expensive £10,000 bottles of vino??
This presumably is Johnson's best shot now. But he will presumably need to fast-track the Delay legislation so he can move the election before prorogation kicks in
I said this earlier. Whether this legislation passes is moot, its the election result that matters.
Comments
https://twitter.com/ariehkovler/status/1168989385339093000
So success to the HOC but who wins the public debate that follows ?
I will wait and see but tempers and attitudes on here have been quite unpleasant at times from both sides and it is time to dial it down and chill
Good night folks
What's remarkable is actually how few rebels there are. It's not remotely half the party.
16 wets out of the game.
He must have KNOWN this is how his "die or die" Brexit policy would end. If he had wanted a compromise approach he'd have done a Hunt and been much more wishy washy in the hustings.
He'd have kept Gauke and Hammond in the Cabinet etc?
This is exactly what he must have known would be the response to his policy so we have to think it's going to end exactly how he expected and wanted?
If No.10 hasn't thought this one through already then they're clearly very inept.
Thus forcing the Commons to make a Deal/No Deal choice, with remainer finger prints all over the deal if they don't want No Deal to win?
I hope OGH is enjoying his holiday!
There were only 34 rebels on MV3, yet people are entranced by the 28 or so of them regarded as the true voice of the party.
Graham Brady Old Lady II
He’s back. And this time it’s personal.
These rebels today like to claim they are the "moderate" or "sane" wing of the party but simple fact is they were extremist outliers.
This presumably is Johnson's best shot now. But he will presumably need to fast-track the Delay legislation so he can move the election before prorogation kicks in
So long every one of them. Easily replaceable.
https://twitter.com/_HenryBolton/status/1168990763138584577
Maybe he should have tried harder, put a bit of pressure on his MPs etc.
What an utter helmet
There’s a clearly drunk Scot Nat MP trying to “fight” her way to a seat