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MaxPB said:

Lol Labour MPs now backing the May deal. Too late you complete and utter ****s. Three fucking chances to push it through and now we're going to end up with a disaster no deal because you ****s couldn't stand up and be counted when it mattered.

I have even less respect for those MPs than for Grieve or Baker.

They are utter c*nts who don't even have the excuse of acting from conviction.

AndyJS said:

https://twitter.com/IanDunt/status/1168979115308998657

Does not suit his agenda

StuartDickson said:

DougSeal said:

StuartDickson said:

CaptainBuzzkill said:

If Boris fails and the UK remains then on the plus side it will finish Scottish Independence.

And the Tories will have cleared the stables.

If A happens it will finish Scottish independence.

If B happens it will finish Scottish independence.

If C happens it will finish Scottish independence.

... Ad infinitum.

There is always one more straw for the Brit Nats to cling on to. Until there isn’t.

Quite. You can’t “finish” an idea. An idea may rise and fall in popularity but it will never be “finished”. This binary Manichaeanism is what I find most dispiriting in modern politics.

If binary Manichaeanism is the thing you find most dispiriting in modern politics then you are a lucky man.

The thing I find most dispiriting about modern politics is that we have no decent journalists to hold the incompetent shits to account.

The two are related. Increasingly extreme clickbait (“Watch Nigel Farage DESTROY Remoaner caller”) pushes coverage to the extremes in the hope of getting attention, issues are not properly covered, partisan attacks replace the type of analysis required to hold these people to account. There’s too much shouting, too much media full stop.

Byronic said:

What did we do to deserve this trolling from God?

"And if I only could / I'd legislate against no deal with God / And I'd get him to swap our places"

Scott_P said:

https://twitter.com/MarkDiStef/status/1168981129896108034

To divide society like this and pit one person against another is the start of fascism.

I wonder when the modern, UK version of krystalnaucht will be scheduled?

rottenborough said:

Lucas: "Mogg's body language has been contemptuous tonight"

I rarely agree with her but she is right.

SandyRentool said:

Member for Witney now speaking. Oh, the irony.

Robert Courts. The new young MP speaks quite well.

rottenborough said:

Lucas: "Mogg's body language has been contemptuous tonight"

I'm no fan of Mogg, but I think criticising people for body language is itself pretty darn petty, I think there are much better angles of attack. Possibly she has seen twitter moaning at his slouching and wants to be down with the kids?

Scott_P said:

Cumming wargamed this...

https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1168979873781768194

The 15th (2nd day of Tabernacles) is significantly better than the 14th (the 1st day). The festival ends at nightfall on the 15th, which is around 7pm. So we'd have a few hours to clear up and get down the polling stations. Turnout would still definitely be down.

The other positive of the 15th is that those of us who care would at least be able to watch the results overnight, which would not be the case on the 14th...

Edit: further to the point made by @Chris, there are also those who would refrain from writing during the rest of the (9 days in total) festival, so that's Tuesday evening out as well, and also the rest of the week. It's a much smaller proportion of the community, though.

Ed Vaizey sitting amongst the rebels.

Scott_P said:

https://twitter.com/amy_hoggart/status/1168984035575705602

I know he's listening to the speaker, but "the optics" are terrible, and will appear on opposition posters at the election

I don't know if you have ever heard him on LBC* but he really is nothing more than a posh Farage.

* I'm not recommending listening, it's dire.

Scott_P said:

https://twitter.com/amy_hoggart/status/1168984035575705602

I know he's listening to the speaker, but "the optics" are terrible, and will appear on opposition posters at the election

I cannot say how angry this makes me

Sunil_Prasannan said:

SandyRentool said:

dr_spyn said:

Adagio: Sehr feierlich und sehr langsam (C♯ minor)

And Boris Johnson heroically watched his majority fall apart.

Think I have made the right call listening to The Vienna Phil on Radio 3.

You could have been listening to Spreadsheet Phil on The Parliament Channel.

Slumming it in Glasgow again this week

Stirling to Alloa done yesterday evening
Craigendoran to Oban done today - in the pouring rain

I am also in Scotland. Just sampled the Class 68s on the Fife commuter turns.

Rich pickings tonight.

https://twitter.com/UKDemockery/status/1168982543842107392?s=20

Scott_P said:

https://twitter.com/amy_hoggart/status/1168984035575705602

I know he's listening to the speaker, but "the optics" are terrible, and will appear on opposition posters at the election

Yes, a trifle unfair but Miliband’s Sarnie and all that.

Time to clear this remoaner anti British shyte out of Parliament now. Let's have a GE!

This

https://twitter.com/drjennings/status/1168985382869975042

Beibheirli_C said:

I know that. The govt should have known t as well. Everything is wargamed and displayed on the NASA go/no-go board in Downing St.

Or so we are led to believe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmVnLnI277E

Scott_P said:

https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1168984936910598144

They are not very good at this are they

Stark_Dawning said:

Scott_P said:

https://twitter.com/amy_hoggart/status/1168984035575705602

I know he's listening to the speaker, but "the optics" are terrible, and will appear on opposition posters at the election

Yes, a trifle unfair but Miliband’s Sarnie and all that.

At least that was begun by media, not MPs who surely know better pretending they don't know there is a speaker there.

I'd think the contempt of his words is a stronger point.

He can sit up properly and listen to the Speaker. Lying down with his eyes closed isn't necessary

Scott_P said:

https://twitter.com/amy_hoggart/status/1168984035575705602

I know he's listening to the speaker, but "the optics" are terrible, and will appear on opposition posters at the election

The Moggster is saving a seat for the Chief Whip. He's like one of those twats on the train who says "someone is sitting there" when their mate hasn't even boarded the train yet.

https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/1168986011248070656

kle4 said:

rottenborough said:

Lucas: "Mogg's body language has been contemptuous tonight"

I'm no fan of Mogg, but I think criticising people for body language is itself pretty darn petty, I think there are much better angles of attack. Possibly she has seen twitter moaning at his slouching and wants to be down with the kids?

He's supposed to be doing his job, and he's supposed to be doing his job at an important time. If this was a momentary thing, a signal, then I think it was a poor choice of action, but if this was other than momentary then I think its disrespectful to pretty much everyone.

He did not accidentally find himself so disposed.

(I quite like Rees-Mogg)

Byronic said:

Arrogant, irresponsible, shortsighted europhile twats, like him, are one of the main reasons we are where we are. He will not be forgiven by history.

glug, glug, glug.

Byronic said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Scott_P said:

https://twitter.com/amy_hoggart/status/1168984035575705602

I know he's listening to the speaker, but "the optics" are terrible, and will appear on opposition posters at the election

I cannot say how angry this makes me

HE’S VERY TALL AND HE’S LISTENING TO THE SPEAKER IN THE BENCH BEHIND HIM

Genuine question, but aren't the speakers in the benches the round things on the seats? There isn't one where he's lying at the end of the row.

TheScreamingEagles said:

They are master strategists.

CUMMINGS HAS WARGAMED THIS !!!!

https://twitter.com/jessicaelgot/status/1168986983085019136

Mysticrose said:

I'm sure most of you know this but the reason some MPs look like they're slouching is practical. Acoustics in the Chamber are awful, but if you lie back with your ear to the loudspeakers positioned in the rear of the seats you can hear okay.

I also think that body posture is a pretty minor reason to criticise anyone, but Mogg's was pretty extreme. I've been mildly deaf for many years, but I could hear debate well just by leaning back on the bench towards the mike - you really don't need to go into full recline mode like Mogg.

More seriously, I think that Team Boris is being intellectually outgunned - the coalition stretching from Philip Hammond via Ken Clarke vis Hilary Benn via Tony Blair (whose elephant trap warning got serious attention) via Vince Cable via John McDonnell to Caroline Lucas knows procedure better, spots logical inconsistencies better and handles major debates better than Cummings and his insurgents.

AndyJS said:

https://twitter.com/IanDunt/status/1168979115308998657

Looks like someone has definetely told him to tone down the "Fs"

A month ago that would have been:

"This is ******* well such a ******* powefully stupid ****** thing to ******* do!

kle4 said:

Scott_P said:

https://twitter.com/BBCJonSopel/status/1168986098871222273

That he's never seen someone lay down like that to listen to the speaker does not mean he is not doing so for that reason, and make the guffaws at this arrogant fop less silly when they can focus on what this government is doing and saying.

Strikes me as odd that Mogg who is supposed to be famous for his manners and courtsey should slouch on the seats.

Perhaps the power is going to his head.

DougSeal said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1168984936910598144

What did we do to deserve these people?

This is the plague God has delivered on us for allowing people to eat pizzas with pineapples on them.

Floater said:

OblitusSumMe said:

GIN1138 said:

OblitusSumMe said:

GIN1138 said:

Norm said:

GIN1138 said:

Byronic said:

Thornberry on BBC apparently saying that Labour will never trust a Boris request for a GE. As he might shift the date.

How does that work? Labour will never go for an election, ever?

Unless the polls start showing something like Lab 45% and Con 30% I fear cowardly Labour are going to have to be dragged kicking and screaming to a general election.

Given this they are frit

https://twitter.com/LordAshcroft/status/1168950227426074627

Seems that way but the lead was much bigger in 2017 and jezza was well up for it.

The change from 2017 to now is very odd. Maybe its because they can't play the "we'll respect the refernedum" card in their northern leave seats this time?

It's only temporary. As soon as there is an extension signed, sealed and delivered, they will back a general election.

I'm not certain Johnson will still want one, but we'll see. It might be out of his hands.

Not sure. @Byronic was reporting Thornberry as saying Labour would NEVER agree to a Johnson election?

And why does Labour care so much about an extension if they think they will win the election?

Everything they are sayling and doing today looks like they've pretty given up on any chance at the election and are desperate to avoid it.

It looks strange.

Byronic was, I believe, mistaken. The Guardian report Thornberry thusly "She says the party wants to see the bill ruling out a no-deal Brexit on 31 October passed first."

Only a matter of sequencing.

So if the tories got in with a huge majority on a platform of no deal their hands will still be tied?

(Unlikely I know)

A new government, elected with a majority on a manifesto commitment to take us out of the EU can do so at any time, and in any way that wins the support of a majority of MPs.

The point is to avoid no deal before Labour have a chance to takeover. If the voters choose Johnson and his no deal, so be it.

What happens:
- if Rebels/Opposition win tonight and pass No No-Deal bill tomorrow
- Johnson also cannot get FTPA election through

Limbo ? Specially if they withdraw the whip of 15 MPs.

Kamski - who, Caroline Lucas?

Has Rees-Mogg tried wearing a hearing aid?

kamski said:

Ave_it said:

Lol Caroline Lucas is awful. A screeching harridan who has no place in Parliament just like her party

Sexist arse?

Tame troll IMO. He only turns up for stuff like this.

Many on here like it.

https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1168984936910598144?s=20

Ave_it said:

Lol Caroline Lucas is awful. A screeching harridan who has no place in Parliament just like her party

Johnson = Watford

OblitusSumMe said:

Floater said:

OblitusSumMe said:

GIN1138 said:

OblitusSumMe said:

GIN1138 said:

Norm said:

GIN1138 said:

Byronic said:

Thornberry on BBC apparently saying that Labour will never trust a Boris request for a GE. As he might shift the date.

How does that work? Labour will never go for an election, ever?

Unless the polls start showing something like Lab 45% and Con 30% I fear cowardly Labour are going to have to be dragged kicking and screaming to a general election.

Given this they are frit

https://twitter.com/LordAshcroft/status/1168950227426074627

Seems that way but the lead was much bigger in 2017 and jezza was well up for it.

The change from 2017 to now is very odd. Maybe its because they can't play the "we'll respect the refernedum" card in their northern leave seats this time?

It's only temporary. As soon as there is an extension signed, sealed and delivered, they will back a general election.

I'm not certain Johnson will still want one, but we'll see. It might be out of his hands.

Not sure. @Byronic was reporting Thornberry as saying Labour would NEVER agree to a Johnson election?

And why does Labour care so much about an extension if they think they will win the election?

Everything they are sayling and doing today looks like they've pretty given up on any chance at the election and are desperate to avoid it.

It looks strange.

Byronic was, I believe, mistaken. The Guardian report Thornberry thusly "She says the party wants to see the bill ruling out a no-deal Brexit on 31 October passed first."

Only a matter of sequencing.

So if the tories got in with a huge majority on a platform of no deal their hands will still be tied?

(Unlikely I know)

A new government, elected with a majority on a manifesto commitment to take us out of the EU can do so at any time, and in any way that wins the support of a majority of MPs.

The point is to avoid no deal before Labour have a chance to takeover. If the voters choose Johnson and his no deal, so be it.

We can leave the EU at any time we want simply by repealing the European Communities Act of 1973.

It would be an ugly way to depart, but it is that Act that gives the EU legal power in the UK. Its repeal would mean that UK courts would no longer recognise the EU.

DougSeal said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1168984936910598144

What did we do to deserve these people?

We elected them.

The "success" of reducing your majority by firing your MPs is brought to you by the same party that thinks you increase trade by tearing up your biggest trading treaty.

Morons are not in it... morons are much, much brighter than this shower.

williamglenn said:

Has Rees-Mogg tried wearing a hearing aid?

Yes, he did try, but he was concerned it made him look silly.

Ave_it said:

Beibheirli_C said:

kamski said:

Ave_it said:

Lol Caroline Lucas is awful. A screeching harridan who has no place in Parliament just like her party

Sexist arse?

Tame troll IMO. He only turns up for stuff like this.

Many on here like it.

Hahaha! I have been posting here since 2005!

Yes, I know you have. I have been here almost as long.

https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/1168989385930526725

Ave_it said:

Beibheirli_C said:

kamski said:

Ave_it said:

Lol Caroline Lucas is awful. A screeching harridan who has no place in Parliament just like her party

Sexist arse?

Tame troll IMO. He only turns up for stuff like this.

Many on here like it.

Hahaha! I have been posting here since 2005!

Ave It!!!!!!!!!!!!

Boris GAIN Bootle at the next election?