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You do see fascists under the bed in the Conservative Party.Nigel_Foremain said:
haha. I am a Tory ex-Party activist you blinkered plonker. Once again, any Brexit fantasist calling anyone "cretinous" or imbecilic is ironic in the extreme as you follow an imbecilic creed. I am a Conservative centrist and fascist loather. I detest Corbyn, but I equally find I find the lurch to the extreme right in the Conservative Party extremely dumb, and I have met plenty of swivel eyed nutters like you in the party who have as much understanding of the matters that they pontificate on as the average amoeba. The ascendency of the puerile views that you represent is why I will probably change my party allegiance, which I am sure you might be pleased at as you would like the Conservative party to become Brexit National Party Lite. One day the country will grow up, and realise that basing foreign policy on the views of people who read too many war comics is not advisable.Brom said:
Let's be honest you're a cretinous troll who thinks everyone to the right of Corbyn is a fascist. I'm delighted over half the country disagree with you because otherwise we would be in a right state. Enjoy the Conservative GovernmentNigel_Foremain said:
Once again, anyone who thinks Brexit is a good idea accusing anyone of being imbecilic is rich in irony. Fascism is anything but ridiculous though. Repulsive, yes, ridiculous no. You might want to call divisive nationalism that is led by an egotistical zealot something different. I call it what it is, an unpleasant regressive doctrine that causes hatred, and it used to be known as fascism. In the UK it is now called the Brexit Party, or Faragism.isam said:
I ignore your ridiculous F words. The chance of allowing you to try and make that imbecilic point was worth it to put you right.Nigel_Foremain said:
Oh, that is disappointing. Good that you are owning up to what the Brexit Party actually is though. At least you are honest about it.isam said:Nigel_Foremain said:
I don't think fascism is very popular in Wales, oh hang on there was Neil cash for questions thingyjig.swing_voter said:If BXP stand in Brecon & Radnor, is it possible Tories could slip to 3rd place?
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TalkRadio have released an official transcript. Here is the bus bit. Not quite same as the text I quoted earlier. To be fair to Boris looks like he didn't actually say "I don't mean buses".
RK: Very quick stuff on your, on your, on your personal lifestyle. What do you do to relax? What do you do to switch off?
BJ: I like to paint. I make things.
RK: What do you make?
BJ: I make, I have a thing where I make models of... When I was mayor of London... I make, buses.
RK: You make models of busses?
BJ: I make models of busses.
RK: So they're going to be in Downing Street?
BJ: I get, I get old, um, wooden crates, right? And I paint them and they have to contain two wine bottles. And it will have a dividing thing. And I turn it into a bus and I put passengers... yu really want to do this?
RK: You're making buses, you're making cardboard buses. Okay. That's what you do to enjoy yourself.
BJ: No, I paint the passengers enjoying themselves.
RK: Okay, great.
BJ: On a wonderful bus. Low carbon of a kind that we brought to the streets of London that reduces CO2, reduces Nitrous Oxide, reducing pollution...
Read more at https://talkradio.co.uk/news/boris-johnson-talkradio-interview-19062531433#wHDGjBALLDA6hx9b.990 -
Rather like SeanT and Gordon's "Farmy-farm"anothernick said:
I wonder if he will produce any models he has made to back this up.dr_spyn said:https://twitter.com/gordonrayner/status/1143462247773155328 A bus model maker.
This will lead people to remember the new routemaster buses he bought for London at vast expense - pointless, impractical, unreliable and widely disliked (though superficially attractive). Rather like Boris himself in fact.0 -
I see your point, but I see achievement as an indicator of higher levels of performance that I would expect for someone who aspires to be Chief Exec of UK plc.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Foremain, lack of achievement would be an improvement on his actual performance. Boris wasn't a bland, inactive minister. He was an incompetent one.
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The Telegraph speculates it was Carrie who released the photo.Danny565 said:Obvious point, but does the Boris campaign releasing that old photo not raise suspicion about why Carrie was unwilling to have a new lovey-dovey photo taken?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/06/24/inside-story-staged-boris-johnson-carrie-symonds-picture/
ETA the same paper has since reported the LBC interview where Boris refused to deny the photo is six weeks old.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/06/25/boris-johnson-set-public-grilling-amber-rudd-accuses-making/0 -
Written down in cold print he comes across as raving bonkers in that excerpt. Fortunately for him no-one will believe he really does paint wine boxes with happy bus passengers.rottenborough said:TalkRadio have released an official transcript. Here is the bus bit. Not quite same as the text I quoted earlier. To be fair to Boris looks like he didn't actually say "I don't mean buses".
RK: Very quick stuff on your, on your, on your personal lifestyle. What do you do to relax? What do you do to switch off?
BJ: I like to paint. I make things.
RK: What do you make?
BJ: I make, I have a thing where I make models of... When I was mayor of London... I make, buses.
RK: You make models of busses?
BJ: I make models of busses.
RK: So they're going to be in Downing Street?
BJ: I get, I get old, um, wooden crates, right? And I paint them and they have to contain two wine bottles. And it will have a dividing thing. And I turn it into a bus and I put passengers... yu really want to do this?
RK: You're making buses, you're making cardboard buses. Okay. That's what you do to enjoy yourself.
BJ: No, I paint the passengers enjoying themselves.
RK: Okay, great.
BJ: On a wonderful bus. Low carbon of a kind that we brought to the streets of London that reduces CO2, reduces Nitrous Oxide, reducing pollution...
Read more at https://talkradio.co.uk/news/boris-johnson-talkradio-interview-19062531433#wHDGjBALLDA6hx9b.990 -
They are not under the bed so much sadly.Sean_F said:
You do see fascists under the bed in the Conservative Party.Nigel_Foremain said:
haha. I am a Tory ex-Party activist you blinkered plonker. Once again, any Brexit fantasist calling anyone "cretinous" or imbecilic is ironic in the extreme as you follow an imbecilic creed. I am a Conservative centrist and fascist loather. I detest Corbyn, but I equally find I find the lurch to the extreme right in the Conservative Party extremely dumb, and I have met plenty of swivel eyed nutters like you in the party who have as much understanding of the matters that they pontificate on as the average amoeba. The ascendency of the puerile views that you represent is why I will probably change my party allegiance, which I am sure you might be pleased at as you would like the Conservative party to become Brexit National Party Lite. One day the country will grow up, and realise that basing foreign policy on the views of people who read too many war comics is not advisable.Brom said:
Let's be honest you're a cretinous troll who thinks everyone to the right of Corbyn is a fascist. I'm delighted over half the country disagree with you because otherwise we would be in a right state. Enjoy the Conservative GovernmentNigel_Foremain said:
Once again, anyone who thinks Brexit is a good idea accusing anyone of being imbecilic is rich in irony. Fascism is anything but ridiculous though. Repulsive, yes, ridiculous no. You might want to call divisive nationalism that is led by an egotistical zealot something different. I call it what it is, an unpleasant regressive doctrine that causes hatred, and it used to be known as fascism. In the UK it is now called the Brexit Party, or Faragism.isam said:
I ignore your ridiculous F words. The chance of allowing you to try and make that imbecilic point was worth it to put you right.Nigel_Foremain said:
Oh, that is disappointing. Good that you are owning up to what the Brexit Party actually is though. At least you are honest about it.isam said:Nigel_Foremain said:
I don't think fascism is very popular in Wales, oh hang on there was Neil cash for questions thingyjig.swing_voter said:If BXP stand in Brecon & Radnor, is it possible Tories could slip to 3rd place?
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Confidence only matters if the Executive is actually seeking to pass legislation, though. Default position, absent extension, revocation or approval of WA is exit on the 31/10/19, yes? It doesn't need any further votes.ToryJim said:
The executive can have as much intent as it wishes if it doesn't have the numbers, and it doesn't, its academic. If Parliament votes to stop them and the government seeks to continue regardless Parliament will withdraw confidence.Animal_pb said:
No, I get the take control of parliamentary business bit, but the earlier precedent was with an administration that was not, practically, prepared to countenance a no deal exit. Are you sure it couldn't be stymied by a leave-at-all-costs Executive?TheScreamingEagles said:
Same mechanism as in March/April.Animal_pb said:
How do they do that, exactly? Curious as to what mechanism you're proposing, here.Danny565 said:
And if Parliament instructs him to get an extension...?CarlottaVance said:
https://inews.co.uk/news/brexit/brexit-vote-result-indicative-votes-oliver-letwin-theresa-may/0 -
You really have no understanding of the political landscape do you? You're confusing #FBPE libs with Corbynista socialists. Those are completely different groups, with no love lost between them.Brom said:
No one on this forum believes a word you say. Joined less than a year ago, 3,000 posts all slagging off the Tories. No wonder you're a laughing stock. You have little understanding of political betting and your posts are entirely based upon slagging others off. I take great delight in knowing your far left politics will never lead to the UK government you crave/0 -
Is the audio up somewhere?Richard_Nabavi said:
Written down in cold print he comes across as raving bonkers in that excerpt. Fortunately for him no-one will believe he really does paint wine boxes with happy bus passengers.rottenborough said:TalkRadio have released an official transcript. Here is the bus bit. Not quite same as the text I quoted earlier. To be fair to Boris looks like he didn't actually say "I don't mean buses".
RK: Very quick stuff on your, on your, on your personal lifestyle. What do you do to relax? What do you do to switch off?
BJ: I like to paint. I make things.
RK: What do you make?
BJ: I make, I have a thing where I make models of... When I was mayor of London... I make, buses.
RK: You make models of busses?
BJ: I make models of busses.
RK: So they're going to be in Downing Street?
BJ: I get, I get old, um, wooden crates, right? And I paint them and they have to contain two wine bottles. And it will have a dividing thing. And I turn it into a bus and I put passengers... yu really want to do this?
RK: You're making buses, you're making cardboard buses. Okay. That's what you do to enjoy yourself.
BJ: No, I paint the passengers enjoying themselves.
RK: Okay, great.
BJ: On a wonderful bus. Low carbon of a kind that we brought to the streets of London that reduces CO2, reduces Nitrous Oxide, reducing pollution...
Read more at https://talkradio.co.uk/news/boris-johnson-talkradio-interview-19062531433#wHDGjBALLDA6hx9b.990 -
Nope, just calling out someone who pretends to be a Tory activist. The little fella is an unhinged troll who just froths with every post. Only fair it's pointed out.Stereotomy said:
You really have no understanding of the political landscape do you? You're confusing #FBPE libs with Corbynista socialists. Those are completely different groups, with no love lost between them.Brom said:
No one on this forum believes a word you say. Joined less than a year ago, 3,000 posts all slagging off the Tories. No wonder you're a laughing stock. You have little understanding of political betting and your posts are entirely based upon slagging others off. I take great delight in knowing your far left politics will never lead to the UK government you crave/0 -
No, I already had extremely low expectations.Richard_Nabavi said:Boris is going to be even worse than we feared, isn't he?
Anyone who read's the guff Boris writes for the Telegraph would know he's not capable of doing a serious job. He writes well, but he says nothing. He's a bluffer, he's not remotely as clever as his acolytes insist he is.
Boris is also lazy, as it is plain as day that he has not done his homework on leaving the EU, he hasn't even grasped some of the basic facts of the issue.
Finally, Boris isn't fit for the office of PM, he is serial adulterer, a repeated liar, and a person who at best is crass and at worst is a bigot.
There is something seriously wrong with the Tory Party that Boris is even a candidate never mind favourite to win.0 -
anyone heard what Hugh Grant thinks ?Sean_F said:
Yes, my neighbours frequently row. It would not occur to me to tape them, and then post the tape to the local newspaper's website to embarrass them.Philip_Thompson said:
I don't think many are saying its wrong to call 999 when you think there is a risk.CarlottaVance said:POLICE have defended Boris Johnson’s neighbours for taping his late-night argument with his girlfriend then calling 999.
A social media account for a Met borough told the public “you are not interfering” for getting involved in domestic incidents.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9365505/boris-johnson-carrie-symonds-neighbours-defended/
Calling The Guardian when you are told it was a false alarm is a different matter.
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yes but does he paint £350 million on the side ?rottenborough said:TalkRadio have released an official transcript. Here is the bus bit. Not quite same as the text I quoted earlier. To be fair to Boris looks like he didn't actually say "I don't mean buses".
RK: Very quick stuff on your, on your, on your personal lifestyle. What do you do to relax? What do you do to switch off?
BJ: I like to paint. I make things.
RK: What do you make?
BJ: I make, I have a thing where I make models of... When I was mayor of London... I make, buses.
RK: You make models of busses?
BJ: I make models of busses.
RK: So they're going to be in Downing Street?
BJ: I get, I get old, um, wooden crates, right? And I paint them and they have to contain two wine bottles. And it will have a dividing thing. And I turn it into a bus and I put passengers... yu really want to do this?
RK: You're making buses, you're making cardboard buses. Okay. That's what you do to enjoy yourself.
BJ: No, I paint the passengers enjoying themselves.
RK: Okay, great.
BJ: On a wonderful bus. Low carbon of a kind that we brought to the streets of London that reduces CO2, reduces Nitrous Oxide, reducing pollution...
Read more at https://talkradio.co.uk/news/boris-johnson-talkradio-interview-19062531433#wHDGjBALLDA6hx9b.990 -
Me as Prime Minister? God No.Alanbrooke said:
you want that job dont you ?TheScreamingEagles said:
Then you replace the Prime Minister with someone willing to carry out the will of Parliament.Animal_pb said:
No, I get the take control of parliamentary business bit, but the earlier precedent was with an administration that was not, practically, prepared to countenance a no deal exit. Are you sure it couldn't be stymied by a leave-at-all-costs Executive?TheScreamingEagles said:
Same mechanism as in March/April.Animal_pb said:
How do they do that, exactly? Curious as to what mechanism you're proposing, here.Danny565 said:
And if Parliament instructs him to get an extension...?CarlottaVance said:
https://inews.co.uk/news/brexit/brexit-vote-result-indicative-votes-oliver-letwin-theresa-may/
Dictator/Tyrant of the UK? Hell yeah. I'd have Brexit sorted out by next summer.0 -
A real beginner’s guide to GATT Article 24
https://tradebetablog.wordpress.com/2019/06/24/beginners-guide-gatt-article-24/
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you have to start somewhere, try being PM first and then burn the Reichstag, it has worked beforeTheScreamingEagles said:
Me as Prime Minister? God No.Alanbrooke said:
you want that job dont you ?TheScreamingEagles said:
Then you replace the Prime Minister with someone willing to carry out the will of Parliament.Animal_pb said:
No, I get the take control of parliamentary business bit, but the earlier precedent was with an administration that was not, practically, prepared to countenance a no deal exit. Are you sure it couldn't be stymied by a leave-at-all-costs Executive?TheScreamingEagles said:
Same mechanism as in March/April.Animal_pb said:
How do they do that, exactly? Curious as to what mechanism you're proposing, here.Danny565 said:
And if Parliament instructs him to get an extension...?CarlottaVance said:
https://inews.co.uk/news/brexit/brexit-vote-result-indicative-votes-oliver-letwin-theresa-may/
Dictator of the UK? Hell yeah. I'd have Brexit sorted out by next summer.0 -
Page 3 model buses?dr_spyn said:https://twitter.com/gordonrayner/status/1143462247773155328 A bus model maker.
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Talking of full-on raving bonkers, let's not overlook this outstanding contribution to the genre from the other side:
https://www.cityam.com/city-anger-at-john-mcdonnells-financial-totalitarianism-climate-change-plans/
(I guffawed heartily at the bit about "exposing our economy to financial instability").0 -
Passionate remainer Tory activists do exist. I've met more than one. I see no reason not to think that Nigel_Formain is one of them.Brom said:
Nope, just calling out someone who pretends to be a Tory activist. The little fella is an unhinged troll who just froths with every post. Only fair it's pointed out.Stereotomy said:
You really have no understanding of the political landscape do you? You're confusing #FBPE libs with Corbynista socialists. Those are completely different groups, with no love lost between them.Brom said:
No one on this forum believes a word you say. Joined less than a year ago, 3,000 posts all slagging off the Tories. No wonder you're a laughing stock. You have little understanding of political betting and your posts are entirely based upon slagging others off. I take great delight in knowing your far left politics will never lead to the UK government you crave/
Though I will agree with "froths", and to a lesser extent "unhinged".0 -
England soiling the bed in this world cup.
They are a bigger embarrassment than Boris Johnson.0 -
England chase stuff over 300 better than 250 though...TheScreamingEagles said:England soiling the bed in this world cup.
They are a bigger embarrassment than Boris Johnson.0 -
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What does Boris do all day? He dashes his columns off (usually late according to various editors) in about a hour or two. He gives talks at dinners for sums of money, but that's usually evening work.glw said:
No, I already had extremely low expectations.Richard_Nabavi said:Boris is going to be even worse than we feared, isn't he?
Anyone who read's the guff Boris writes for the Telegraph would know he's not capable of doing a serious job. He writes well, but he says nothing. He's a bluffer, he's not remotely as clever as his acolytes insist he is.
Boris is also lazy, as it is plain as day that he has not done his homework on leaving the EU, he hasn't even grasped some of the basic facts of the issue.
Finally, Boris isn't fit for the office of PM, he is serial adulterer, a repeated liar, and a person who at best is crass and at worst is a bigot.
There is something seriously wrong with the Tory Party that Boris is even a candidate never mind favourite to win.
You would have thought he had a few hours to kill, so might as well have a read of a couple of briefing papers.0 -
Oh dear, Mr Brom, do grow up. I have followed this site since "Tim" was on it. I took a break from it. I don't "slag off Tories", I "slag off" (to use your limited vernacular) people with extremist or simplistic views of politics, whether right or left. You don't like my posts because you fall into that category. I dislike Brexit because it is anti-business, anti-economy, and unpatriotic (pro-Russian) IMO. I have made constructive posts on how the EU actually works, how the Conservative Party works (been a member for over 20 years, activist for 7- up until 2012, voted for Cameron) and how business interacts with politics. Brexit is incompatible with what I regard as proper Conservatism as it is destabilising and anti-business. If you have actually seen my posts you clearly have a very very unsophisticated understanding of centre right political opinion.0
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"Next summer" !!!!!!!!!TheScreamingEagles said:Me as Prime Minister? God No.
Dictator/Tyrant of the UK? Hell yeah. I'd have Brexit sorted out by next summer.
Dear god, you're just Theresa May in trouser flares, floral shirts and vegan sandals !!!
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I'd deliver Brexit then start rounding up the leaders of the ERG and Vote Leave, make them live with the plebs that voted Leave in places like Sunderland and Oldham.Alanbrooke said:
you have to start somewhere, try being PM first and then burn the Reichstag, it has worked beforeTheScreamingEagles said:
Me as Prime Minister? God No.Alanbrooke said:
you want that job dont you ?TheScreamingEagles said:
Then you replace the Prime Minister with someone willing to carry out the will of Parliament.Animal_pb said:
No, I get the take control of parliamentary business bit, but the earlier precedent was with an administration that was not, practically, prepared to countenance a no deal exit. Are you sure it couldn't be stymied by a leave-at-all-costs Executive?TheScreamingEagles said:
Same mechanism as in March/April.Animal_pb said:
How do they do that, exactly? Curious as to what mechanism you're proposing, here.Danny565 said:
And if Parliament instructs him to get an extension...?CarlottaVance said:
https://inews.co.uk/news/brexit/brexit-vote-result-indicative-votes-oliver-letwin-theresa-may/
Dictator of the UK? Hell yeah. I'd have Brexit sorted out by next summer.0 -
Pass the popcorn kids, things can only get funnier:
https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/11434782007538933780 -
Not with Vince.Pulpstar said:
England chase stuff over 300 better than 250 though...TheScreamingEagles said:England soiling the bed in this world cup.
They are a bigger embarrassment than Boris Johnson.0 -
Being articulate and a good communicator but a bit lazy does not make you a bad leader see, for example, Ronald Reagan.glw said:
No, I already had extremely low expectations.Richard_Nabavi said:Boris is going to be even worse than we feared, isn't he?
Anyone who read's the guff Boris writes for the Telegraph would know he's not capable of doing a serious job. He writes well, but he says nothing. He's a bluffer, he's not remotely as clever as his acolytes insist he is.
Boris is also lazy, as it is plain as day that he has not done his homework on leaving the EU, he hasn't even grasped some of the basic facts of the issue.
Finally, Boris isn't fit for the office of PM, he is serial adulterer, a repeated liar, and a person who at best is crass and at worst is a bigot.
There is something seriously wrong with the Tory Party that Boris is even a candidate never mind favourite to win.
Being a workaholic but a bad communicator though and too bogged down in detail can make you a bad leader see e.g. Brown or May.
What is needed is a leader now who sets the direction as Boris will and lets advisers fill in the detail0 -
Thanks for that. I will work hard on becoming rehinged! Simplistic rightwingers who now claim to be the true soul of the Conservative party probably do make me a little frothy I have to admit!Stereotomy said:
Passionate remainer Tory activists do exist. I've met more than one. I see no reason not to think that Nigel_Formain is one of them.Brom said:
Nope, just calling out someone who pretends to be a Tory activist. The little fella is an unhinged troll who just froths with every post. Only fair it's pointed out.Stereotomy said:
You really have no understanding of the political landscape do you? You're confusing #FBPE libs with Corbynista socialists. Those are completely different groups, with no love lost between them.Brom said:
No one on this forum believes a word you say. Joined less than a year ago, 3,000 posts all slagging off the Tories. No wonder you're a laughing stock. You have little understanding of political betting and your posts are entirely based upon slagging others off. I take great delight in knowing your far left politics will never lead to the UK government you crave/
Though I will agree with "froths", and to a lesser extent "unhinged".0 -
I've seen your posts and they are almost entirely bitter and devoid of any conservative values or sentiment (and I say that as someone with no love for the Tories). I think as someone who has been on this site a long time it is fair to call out someone who resorts to insults with almost every post they make. Thank you.Nigel_Foremain said:Oh dear, Mr Brom, do grow up. I have followed this site since "Tim" was on it. I took a break from it. I don't "slag off Tories", I "slag off" (to use your limited vernacular) people with extremist or simplistic views of politics, whether right or left. You don't like my posts because you fall into that category. I dislike Brexit because it is anti-business, anti-economy, and unpatriotic (pro-Russian) IMO. I have made constructive posts on how the EU actually works, how the Conservative Party works (been a member for over 20 years, activist for 7- up until 2012, voted for Cameron) and how business interacts with politics. Brexit is incompatible with what I regard as proper Conservatism as it is destabilising and anti-business. If you have actually seen my posts you clearly have a very very unsophisticated understanding of centre right political opinion.
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Really ? What did you used to post as ?Nigel_Foremain said:Oh dear, Mr Brom, do grow up. I have followed this site since "Tim" was on it. I took a break from it. I don't "slag off Tories", I "slag off" (to use your limited vernacular) people with extremist or simplistic views of politics, whether right or left. You don't like my posts because you fall into that category. I dislike Brexit because it is anti-business, anti-economy, and unpatriotic (pro-Russian) IMO. I have made constructive posts on how the EU actually works, how the Conservative Party works (been a member for over 20 years, activist for 7- up until 2012, voted for Cameron) and how business interacts with politics. Brexit is incompatible with what I regard as proper Conservatism as it is destabilising and anti-business. If you have actually seen my posts you clearly have a very very unsophisticated understanding of centre right political opinion.
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Oh I can imagine that at some point 2008-2016 he was given a wine bottle holder in the shape of a bus made out of old pallets from a Chelsea upcycling store, and at some point between mistresses he painted some people on it.Richard_Nabavi said:Written down in cold print he comes across as raving bonkers in that excerpt. Fortunately for him no-one will believe he really does paint wine boxes with happy bus passengers.
But he doesn't strike me as the kind to have hobbies - it would need a bit of focus, and shagging is much more fun.0 -
I've never worn flares or sandals in my life.JackW said:
"Next summer" !!!!!!!!!TheScreamingEagles said:Me as Prime Minister? God No.
Dictator/Tyrant of the UK? Hell yeah. I'd have Brexit sorted out by next summer.
Dear god, you're just Theresa May in trouser flares, floral shirts and vegan sandals !!!0 -
No I wouldn't.Nigel_Foremain said:
And you, of course, wouldn't call the Daily Brexitograph if you heard similar goings on from a political figure you didn't approve of? Corbyn? Anna Soubry? Of course not!!Philip_Thompson said:
I don't think many are saying its wrong to call 999 when you think there is a risk.CarlottaVance said:POLICE have defended Boris Johnson’s neighbours for taping his late-night argument with his girlfriend then calling 999.
A social media account for a Met borough told the public “you are not interfering” for getting involved in domestic incidents.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9365505/boris-johnson-carrie-symonds-neighbours-defended/
Calling The Guardian when you are told it was a false alarm is a different matter.0 -
IDS knows how to win Tory membership votes so good choicerottenborough said:Pass the popcorn kids, things can only get funnier:
https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/11434782007538933780 -
what about lime green leather trousers ?TheScreamingEagles said:
I've never worn flares or sandals in my life.JackW said:
"Next summer" !!!!!!!!!TheScreamingEagles said:Me as Prime Minister? God No.
Dictator/Tyrant of the UK? Hell yeah. I'd have Brexit sorted out by next summer.
Dear god, you're just Theresa May in trouser flares, floral shirts and vegan sandals !!!0 -
You would certainly have thought that someone wanting to lead the country would at least understand the basics of the most pressing issue of the day. It seems that that is too much effort for Boris, he just wants a coronation, with no scrutiny of his character and policies.rottenborough said:What does Boris do all day? He dashes his columns off (usually late according to various editors) in about a hour or two. He gives talks at dinners for sums of money, but that's usually evening work.
You would have thought he had a few hours to kill, so might as well have a read of a couple of briefing papers.
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Not true, Boris voted for the Withdrawal Agreement at MV3rottenborough said:0 -
Yeah, they were so confident they stitched up PortilloHYUFD said:
IDS knows how to win Tory membership votes so good choicerottenborough said:Pass the popcorn kids, things can only get funnier:
https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/11434782007538933780 -
Boris, Boris, Boris, Boris, Boris....
Boris completely downing out Jeremy Hunt in the news today I see.
All looking rather Trumpesque isn't it? 0 -
Never worn lime green trousers, never worn leather trousers.Alanbrooke said:
what about lime green leather trousers ?TheScreamingEagles said:
I've never worn flares or sandals in my life.JackW said:
"Next summer" !!!!!!!!!TheScreamingEagles said:Me as Prime Minister? God No.
Dictator/Tyrant of the UK? Hell yeah. I'd have Brexit sorted out by next summer.
Dear god, you're just Theresa May in trouser flares, floral shirts and vegan sandals !!!0 -
I think if anyone is relying on that they are on a hiding to nothing. Parliament will assert itself. Any casual reading of Parliamentary history will show that whenever anyone has sought to bypass or ignore Parliament they've come a cropper. Confidence will be withdrawn, an election will be held and an extension will be applied whilst the election occurs. That would be my reading of where things are heading.Animal_pb said:
Confidence only matters if the Executive is actually seeking to pass legislation, though. Default position, absent extension, revocation or approval of WA is exit on the 31/10/19, yes? It doesn't need any further votes.ToryJim said:
The executive can have as much intent as it wishes if it doesn't have the numbers, and it doesn't, its academic. If Parliament votes to stop them and the government seeks to continue regardless Parliament will withdraw confidence.Animal_pb said:
No, I get the take control of parliamentary business bit, but the earlier precedent was with an administration that was not, practically, prepared to countenance a no deal exit. Are you sure it couldn't be stymied by a leave-at-all-costs Executive?TheScreamingEagles said:
Same mechanism as in March/April.Animal_pb said:
How do they do that, exactly? Curious as to what mechanism you're proposing, here.Danny565 said:
And if Parliament instructs him to get an extension...?CarlottaVance said:
https://inews.co.uk/news/brexit/brexit-vote-result-indicative-votes-oliver-letwin-theresa-may/0 -
Presumably, Hunt is tied up sitting in the Cabinet meeting.GIN1138 said:Boris, Boris, Boris, Boris, Boris....
Boris completely downing out Jeremy Hunt in the news today I see.
All looking rather Trumpesque isn't it?0 -
Every Labour MP who backs a Tory would lose the whip guaranteed.Barnesian said:
You don't need 300+ MPs to defect. You only need a handful of opposition MPs to support an alternative Tory PM who will ask for an extension.Philip_Thompson said:
They could vote like they did on March 14, but if they leave it that late again if the PM simply says 'no I'm not doing it' there's little they can do. Holding him in contempt won't make him do it. A VONC will only work if Parliament is prepared to elect Corbyn to head a GONU [since Corbyn would veto any alternatives and you won't find 300+ MPs willing to defect from the Tory and Labour parties].Animal_pb said:
How do they do that, exactly? Curious as to what mechanism you're proposing, here.Danny565 said:
And if Parliament instructs him to get an extension...?CarlottaVance said:
Any Tory MP who backed a Tory over the elected leader would likely lose the whip.
Given close to 200 Tory MPs have already voted against extending you would need close to 200 opposition MPs at least.0 -
He seems to lack any curiosity about details. Odd for someone who is supposedly intelligent and indeed studied Classics. Isn't Classics chock full of little details that have to be read about and learnt?glw said:
You would certainly have thought that someone wanting to lead the country would at least understand the basics of the most pressing issue of the day. It seems that that is too much effort for Boris, he just wants a coronation, with no scrutiny of his character and policies.rottenborough said:What does Boris do all day? He dashes his columns off (usually late according to various editors) in about a hour or two. He gives talks at dinners for sums of money, but that's usually evening work.
You would have thought he had a few hours to kill, so might as well have a read of a couple of briefing papers.0 -
it seems to me the people who wailed about Trump are making the same mistakes about Boris, He wants you to witter on about the minutiae of his life since it means he doesnt have to have politcal scrutiny and the bit of a geezer meme keeps rolling.glw said:
You would certainly have thought that someone wanting to lead the country would at least understand the basics of the most pressing issue of the day. It seems that that is too much effort for Boris, he just wants a coronation, with no scrutiny of his character and policies.rottenborough said:What does Boris do all day? He dashes his columns off (usually late according to various editors) in about a hour or two. He gives talks at dinners for sums of money, but that's usually evening work.
You would have thought he had a few hours to kill, so might as well have a read of a couple of briefing papers.
Currently the hooha of what he had for breakfast means no-ones nailing him on tax, and the clock ticks on.0 -
Heh, it wouldn't have been my choice of wording. The way I'd say it is that the Brexit brainworms which have infected us all seem to have dug in a little deeper in your case than most.Nigel_Foremain said:
Thanks for that. I will work hard on becoming rehinged! Simplistic rightwingers who now claim to be the true soul of the Conservative party probably do make me a little frothy I have to admit!Stereotomy said:
Passionate remainer Tory activists do exist. I've met more than one. I see no reason not to think that Nigel_Formain is one of them.Brom said:
Nope, just calling out someone who pretends to be a Tory activist. The little fella is an unhinged troll who just froths with every post. Only fair it's pointed out.Stereotomy said:
You really have no understanding of the political landscape do you? You're confusing #FBPE libs with Corbynista socialists. Those are completely different groups, with no love lost between them.Brom said:
No one on this forum believes a word you say. Joined less than a year ago, 3,000 posts all slagging off the Tories. No wonder you're a laughing stock. You have little understanding of political betting and your posts are entirely based upon slagging others off. I take great delight in knowing your far left politics will never lead to the UK government you crave/
Though I will agree with "froths", and to a lesser extent "unhinged".
Don't know if that's better or worse...0 -
youve shattered my illusions, delete that post forthwithTheScreamingEagles said:
Never worn lime green trousers, never worn leather trousers.Alanbrooke said:
what about lime green leather trousers ?TheScreamingEagles said:
I've never worn flares or sandals in my life.JackW said:
"Next summer" !!!!!!!!!TheScreamingEagles said:Me as Prime Minister? God No.
Dictator/Tyrant of the UK? Hell yeah. I'd have Brexit sorted out by next summer.
Dear god, you're just Theresa May in trouser flares, floral shirts and vegan sandals !!!
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Absolutely but goting down the government is the easy part. Electing a replacement is tougher. Corbyn would rightly insist he is the alternative. If Parliament isn't willing to back Corbyn then bringing down this government isn't enough.ToryJim said:
I suspect Parliament would vote down any government that set out to entirely ignore its wishes. It would be right to do so.Philip_Thompson said:
And if the PM just refuses to follow Parliament's instruction? Which the executive can do?TheScreamingEagles said:
Same mechanism as in March/April.Animal_pb said:
How do they do that, exactly? Curious as to what mechanism you're proposing, here.Danny565 said:
And if Parliament instructs him to get an extension...?CarlottaVance said:
https://inews.co.uk/news/brexit/oliver-letwin-amendment-brexit-mp-west-dorset-prime-minister/
Unless Parliament is willing to elect Corbyn there's little it can do.0 -
Indeed, I was talking to a former Tory MP on this very matter just now.Alanbrooke said:
it seems to me the people who wailed about Trump are making the same mistakes about Boris, He wants you to witter on about the minutiae of his life since it means he doesnt have to have politcal scrutiny and the bit of a geezer meme keeps rolling.glw said:
You would certainly have thought that someone wanting to lead the country would at least understand the basics of the most pressing issue of the day. It seems that that is too much effort for Boris, he just wants a coronation, with no scrutiny of his character and policies.rottenborough said:What does Boris do all day? He dashes his columns off (usually late according to various editors) in about a hour or two. He gives talks at dinners for sums of money, but that's usually evening work.
You would have thought he had a few hours to kill, so might as well have a read of a couple of briefing papers.
Currently the hooha of what he had for breakfast means no-ones nailing him on tax, and the clock ticks on.
Though they did point out it is much easier for the British legislature to impeach Boris than it is for the American legislature to impeach Trump..0 -
Why do the people that CityAM has sourced for quotes think that he cares about anything other than their personal destruction? The Times has a similar article which deconstructs it as well.Richard_Nabavi said:Talking of full-on raving bonkers, let's not overlook this outstanding contribution to the genre from the other side:
https://www.cityam.com/city-anger-at-john-mcdonnells-financial-totalitarianism-climate-change-plans/
(I guffawed heartily at the bit about "exposing our economy to financial instability").0 -
FWIW the fact that Boris does a bit of modelling on the side is the first endearing thing I’ve heard him say in recent weeks. Makes him seem more human.
I do a bit myself and it’s very therapeutic.0 -
It's not really a good sign for Boris Johnson that every time he appears in public Jeremy Hunt's price shortens.0
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Nowhere close.TheScreamingEagles said:England soiling the bed in this world cup.
They are a bigger embarrassment than Boris Johnson.
Yet.
And they are still considerably more likely to surprise on the upside from here.
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Seems to be a low run rate for the Convicts but 9 wickets in hand is concerning.0
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IDS would have beaten Portillo tooTheWhiteRabbit said:
Yeah, they were so confident they stitched up PortilloHYUFD said:
IDS knows how to win Tory membership votes so good choicerottenborough said:Pass the popcorn kids, things can only get funnier:
https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/11434782007538933780 -
8 wickets in hand.-1
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Sadly we will never know, as they decided to take the easy way outHYUFD said:
IDS would have beaten Portillo tooTheWhiteRabbit said:
Yeah, they were so confident they stitched up PortilloHYUFD said:
IDS knows how to win Tory membership votes so good choicerottenborough said:Pass the popcorn kids, things can only get funnier:
https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/11434782007538933780 -
Classics at Oxbridge is a harder degree than PPE I thinkrottenborough said:
He seems to lack any curiosity about details. Odd for someone who is supposedly intelligent and indeed studied Classics. Isn't Classics chock full of little details that have to be read about and learnt?glw said:
You would certainly have thought that someone wanting to lead the country would at least understand the basics of the most pressing issue of the day. It seems that that is too much effort for Boris, he just wants a coronation, with no scrutiny of his character and policies.rottenborough said:What does Boris do all day? He dashes his columns off (usually late according to various editors) in about a hour or two. He gives talks at dinners for sums of money, but that's usually evening work.
You would have thought he had a few hours to kill, so might as well have a read of a couple of briefing papers.0 -
Is there a market for the viewing figures?rottenborough said:
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we find ourselves on the same side of the fence this time I'm as ABB as you areTheScreamingEagles said:
Indeed, I was talking to a former Tory MP on this very matter just now.Alanbrooke said:
it seems to me the people who wailed about Trump are making the same mistakes about Boris, He wants you to witter on about the minutiae of his life since it means he doesnt have to have politcal scrutiny and the bit of a geezer meme keeps rolling.glw said:
You would certainly have thought that someone wanting to lead the country would at least understand the basics of the most pressing issue of the day. It seems that that is too much effort for Boris, he just wants a coronation, with no scrutiny of his character and policies.rottenborough said:What does Boris do all day? He dashes his columns off (usually late according to various editors) in about a hour or two. He gives talks at dinners for sums of money, but that's usually evening work.
You would have thought he had a few hours to kill, so might as well have a read of a couple of briefing papers.
Currently the hooha of what he had for breakfast means no-ones nailing him on tax, and the clock ticks on.
Though they did point out it is much easier for the British legislature to impeach Boris than it is for the American legislature to impeach Trump..
I really dont get how no one in the media or politcs is hammering the shit out of him on flaky or non existent policies. he's playing smoke and mirrors and getting away with it quite blatantly.0 -
My view (today) is that although the ERG hardliners are greater in number it is the Grieve faction who are more likely to support Corbyn in a VONC and thus bring a Johnson government down.Barnesian said:So they would VONC a Tory PM? That's a hanging offence isn't it? I can see some of the ERGs doing it but not the bulk.
Hence, come the October crunch, since he neither believes in Hard Brexit nor wishes to fight an election this year, he will go that way - he will agree an extension for further negotiation with the EU. Just as May did.
He is in the same box. The politics are just the same. Nothing has changed.0 -
I think there is still denial in the City and indeed in the country about just how extreme (and in this matter raving bonkers) a Corbyn/McDonnell government would be. They are still treating it as like the Labour Party of old.matt said:Why do the people that CityAM has sourced for quotes think that he cares about anything other than their personal destruction? The Times has a similar article which deconstructs it as well.
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Market says they are on for 305, but my gut says 320-330 should be achievable....Philip_Thompson said:8 wickets in hand.
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As I say, you clearly have very little understanding of centre right thinking outside the confines of Brexit. As for insults they are a response to those that give them. There are plenty of people of differing views on here that I have had perfectly civil exchanges with. If you look at this thread you will see that it was you and Isam who started throwing the words "cretinous" and imbecilic, which are, as I say ironic in the extreme. Admittedly you don't like the word fascist, and its association with the Brexit Party, and if that offended you, well, maybe you should ask yourself some tough questions.Brom said:
I've seen your posts and they are almost entirely bitter and devoid of any conservative values or sentiment (and I say that as someone with no love for the Tories). I think as someone who has been on this site a long time it is fair to call out someone who resorts to insults with almost every post they make. Thank you.Nigel_Foremain said:Oh dear, Mr Brom, do grow up. I have followed this site since "Tim" was on it. I took a break from it. I don't "slag off Tories", I "slag off" (to use your limited vernacular) people with extremist or simplistic views of politics, whether right or left. You don't like my posts because you fall into that category. I dislike Brexit because it is anti-business, anti-economy, and unpatriotic (pro-Russian) IMO. I have made constructive posts on how the EU actually works, how the Conservative Party works (been a member for over 20 years, activist for 7- up until 2012, voted for Cameron) and how business interacts with politics. Brexit is incompatible with what I regard as proper Conservatism as it is destabilising and anti-business. If you have actually seen my posts you clearly have a very very unsophisticated understanding of centre right political opinion.
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Boris still led the Sky Data poll of all voters yesterday v Hunt let alone just Tory membersAlastairMeeks said:It's not really a good sign for Boris Johnson that every time he appears in public Jeremy Hunt's price shortens.
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The assumption is it would be watered down and stuck in legal challenge. Which it MIGHT be, but that is hardly the way to run a nationRichard_Nabavi said:
I think there is still denial in the City and indeed in the country about just how extreme (and in this matter raving bonkers) a Corbyn/McDonnell government would be. They are still treating it as like the Labour Party of old.matt said:Why do the people that CityAM has sourced for quotes think that he cares about anything other than their personal destruction? The Times has a similar article which deconstructs it as well.
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https://twitter.com/Jeremy_Hunt/status/1143480215630491649?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1143480215630491649|twgr^393039363b74776565745f6d65646961&ref_url=https://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2019/jun/25/tory-leadership-latest-news-boris-johnson-rudd-tells-boris-johnson-optimism-not-enough-to-deliver-brexit-live-news
LMAO at the tweet starting off so bland then taking a savage turn at the end.
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Well this is the latest work shirt I've bought.Alanbrooke said:
youve shattered my illusions, delete that post forthwithTheScreamingEagles said:
Never worn lime green trousers, never worn leather trousers.Alanbrooke said:
what about lime green leather trousers ?TheScreamingEagles said:
I've never worn flares or sandals in my life.JackW said:
"Next summer" !!!!!!!!!TheScreamingEagles said:Me as Prime Minister? God No.
Dictator/Tyrant of the UK? Hell yeah. I'd have Brexit sorted out by next summer.
Dear god, you're just Theresa May in trouser flares, floral shirts and vegan sandals !!!
Am toying with this one.
I've made quite the impression with my new employers.
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It is the "easiest" course to get into at Cambridge in terms of grades. Mainly because it is only independent schools that do itHYUFD said:
Classics at Oxbridge is a harder degree than PPE I thinkrottenborough said:
He seems to lack any curiosity about details. Odd for someone who is supposedly intelligent and indeed studied Classics. Isn't Classics chock full of little details that have to be read about and learnt?glw said:
You would certainly have thought that someone wanting to lead the country would at least understand the basics of the most pressing issue of the day. It seems that that is too much effort for Boris, he just wants a coronation, with no scrutiny of his character and policies.rottenborough said:What does Boris do all day? He dashes his columns off (usually late according to various editors) in about a hour or two. He gives talks at dinners for sums of money, but that's usually evening work.
You would have thought he had a few hours to kill, so might as well have a read of a couple of briefing papers.0 -
Am trying to do a reverse DavidLNigelb said:
Nowhere close.TheScreamingEagles said:England soiling the bed in this world cup.
They are a bigger embarrassment than Boris Johnson.
Yet.
And they are still considerably more likely to surprise on the upside from here.0 -
Blimey the things you read on PB - You and Boris modelling on the catwalk ....Casino_Royale said:FWIW the fact that Boris does a bit of modelling on the side is the first endearing thing I’ve heard him say in recent weeks. Makes him seem more human.
I do a bit myself and it’s very therapeutic.
Armani, Dior, Versace, Peacocks, George at ASDA ????
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you must blend in with the sof furnishingsTheScreamingEagles said:
Well this is the latest work shirt I've bought.Alanbrooke said:
youve shattered my illusions, delete that post forthwithTheScreamingEagles said:
Never worn lime green trousers, never worn leather trousers.Alanbrooke said:
what about lime green leather trousers ?TheScreamingEagles said:
I've never worn flares or sandals in my life.JackW said:
"Next summer" !!!!!!!!!TheScreamingEagles said:Me as Prime Minister? God No.
Dictator/Tyrant of the UK? Hell yeah. I'd have Brexit sorted out by next summer.
Dear god, you're just Theresa May in trouser flares, floral shirts and vegan sandals !!!
Am toying with this one.
I've made quite the impression with my new employers. 0 -
Or, it’s a sign of punters betting with their hearts and not their heads.AlastairMeeks said:It's not really a good sign for Boris Johnson that every time he appears in public Jeremy Hunt's price shortens.
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Much higher recognition. He would also win as best game show hostHYUFD said:
Boris still led the Sky Data poll of all voters yesterday v Hunt let alone just Tory membersAlastairMeeks said:It's not really a good sign for Boris Johnson that every time he appears in public Jeremy Hunt's price shortens.
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Am trying to do a reverse DavidLNigelb said:
Nowhere close.TheScreamingEagles said:England soiling the bed in this world cup.
They are a bigger embarrassment than Boris Johnson.
Yet.
And they are still considerably more likely to surprise on the upside from here.
We have this theory.Alanbrooke said:
we find ourselves on the same side of the fence this time I'm as ABB as you areTheScreamingEagles said:
Indeed, I was talking to a former Tory MP on this very matter just now.Alanbrooke said:
it seems to me the people who wailed about Trump are making the same mistakes about Boris, He wants you to witter on about the minutiae of his life since it means he doesnt have to have politcal scrutiny and the bit of a geezer meme keeps rolling.glw said:
You would certainly have thought that someone wanting to lead the country would at least understand the basics of the most pressing issue of the day. It seems that that is too much effort for Boris, he just wants a coronation, with no scrutiny of his character and policies.rottenborough said:What does Boris do all day? He dashes his columns off (usually late according to various editors) in about a hour or two. He gives talks at dinners for sums of money, but that's usually evening work.
You would have thought he had a few hours to kill, so might as well have a read of a couple of briefing papers.
Currently the hooha of what he had for breakfast means no-ones nailing him on tax, and the clock ticks on.
Though they did point out it is much easier for the British legislature to impeach Boris than it is for the American legislature to impeach Trump..
I really dont get how no one in the media or politcs is hammering the shit out of him on flaky or non existent policies. he's playing smoke and mirrors and getting away with it quite blatantly.
Journos are easy on Boris Johnson because they fancy going from journalism to politics.
Heck the final two might have been two former journos.0 -
Pretty sure my grandmother had curtains of a similar pattern.TheScreamingEagles said:
Well this is the latest work shirt I've bought.0 -
HrumphBrom said:
I've seen your posts and they are almost entirely bitter and devoid of any conservative values or sentiment (and I say that as someone with no love for the Tories). I think as someone who has been on this site a long time it is fair to call out someone who resorts to insults with almost every post they make. Thank you.Nigel_Foremain said:Oh dear, Mr Brom, do grow up. I have followed this site since "Tim" was on it. I took a break from it. I don't "slag off Tories", I "slag off" (to use your limited vernacular) people with extremist or simplistic views of politics, whether right or left. You don't like my posts because you fall into that category. I dislike Brexit because it is anti-business, anti-economy, and unpatriotic (pro-Russian) IMO. I have made constructive posts on how the EU actually works, how the Conservative Party works (been a member for over 20 years, activist for 7- up until 2012, voted for Cameron) and how business interacts with politics. Brexit is incompatible with what I regard as proper Conservatism as it is destabilising and anti-business. If you have actually seen my posts you clearly have a very very unsophisticated understanding of centre right political opinion.
I disagree passionately with Nigel about the EU but otherwise I have seen nothing at all to indicate he is anything other than a committed Tory. Just because he is (in my view) utterly wrong about the EU does not make him wrong on anything or everything else. There are Eurofanatics and Eurosceptics in both the main parties.0 -
I think that if we were only days away from no deal parliament would panic and elect someone, anyone, who would accept its instructions to revoke and/or delay. That person could well be Corbyn. After all, Parliament could vote them down again as soon as the crisis was over and given the current political balance in the HoC there's no way Corbyn could pass any legislation or attempt to implement any of his more dangerous ideas.Philip_Thompson said:
Absolutely but goting down the government is the easy part. Electing a replacement is tougher. Corbyn would rightly insist he is the alternative. If Parliament isn't willing to back Corbyn then bringing down this government isn't enough.ToryJim said:
I suspect Parliament would vote down any government that set out to entirely ignore its wishes. It would be right to do so.Philip_Thompson said:
And if the PM just refuses to follow Parliament's instruction? Which the executive can do?TheScreamingEagles said:
Same mechanism as in March/April.Animal_pb said:
How do they do that, exactly? Curious as to what mechanism you're proposing, here.Danny565 said:
And if Parliament instructs him to get an extension...?CarlottaVance said:
https://inews.co.uk/news/brexit/oliver-letwin-amendment-brexit-mp-west-dorset-prime-minister/
Unless Parliament is willing to elect Corbyn there's little it can do.0 -
Are you a corporate buyer modelling for the visually impaired ?!?TheScreamingEagles said:
Well this is the latest work shirt I've bought.Alanbrooke said:
youve shattered my illusions, delete that post forthwithTheScreamingEagles said:
Never worn lime green trousers, never worn leather trousers.Alanbrooke said:
what about lime green leather trousers ?TheScreamingEagles said:
I've never worn flares or sandals in my life.JackW said:
"Next summer" !!!!!!!!!TheScreamingEagles said:Me as Prime Minister? God No.
Dictator/Tyrant of the UK? Hell yeah. I'd have Brexit sorted out by next summer.
Dear god, you're just Theresa May in trouser flares, floral shirts and vegan sandals !!!
Am toying with this one.
I've made quite the impression with my new employers.0 -
@AlanBrooke I've worn lime green trousers and leather trousers. Not simultaneously.
The leather trousers are a bit of a struggle at the moment, to be honest.0 -
Realistically a plausible Corbyn government is very different to what Corbyn would like it to be. It would be constrained by SNP, probably LD and around half the PLP who do not agree with him. The nature of that coalitions means it wouldnt be that different to Brown or Miliband.Richard_Nabavi said:
I think there is still denial in the City and indeed in the country about just how extreme (and in this matter raving bonkers) a Corbyn/McDonnell government would be. They are still treating it as like the Labour Party of old.matt said:Why do the people that CityAM has sourced for quotes think that he cares about anything other than their personal destruction? The Times has a similar article which deconstructs it as well.
The concern is more a Corbyn Labour party further down the line when they have greater control of the PLP and could be up against a very unpopular govt having gone thru Brexit in 5 years time, than the immediate threat of them leading the next government.0 -
No, I have to supervise a bunch of bankers (sic).JackW said:
Are you a corporate buyer modelling for the visually impaired ?!?TheScreamingEagles said:
Well this is the latest work shirt I've bought.Alanbrooke said:
youve shattered my illusions, delete that post forthwithTheScreamingEagles said:
Never worn lime green trousers, never worn leather trousers.Alanbrooke said:
what about lime green leather trousers ?TheScreamingEagles said:
I've never worn flares or sandals in my life.JackW said:
"Next summer" !!!!!!!!!TheScreamingEagles said:Me as Prime Minister? God No.
Dictator/Tyrant of the UK? Hell yeah. I'd have Brexit sorted out by next summer.
Dear god, you're just Theresa May in trouser flares, floral shirts and vegan sandals !!!
Am toying with this one.
I've made quite the impression with my new employers.1 -
Pics or it didn't happen.AlastairMeeks said:@AlanBrooke I've worn lime green trousers and leather trousers. Not simultaneously.
The leather trousers are a bit of a struggle at the moment, to be honest.0 -
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"He was fired with enthusiasm".......*TheScreamingEagles said:
Well this is the latest work shirt I've bought.Alanbrooke said:
youve shattered my illusions, delete that post forthwithTheScreamingEagles said:
Never worn lime green trousers, never worn leather trousers.Alanbrooke said:
what about lime green leather trousers ?TheScreamingEagles said:
I've never worn flares or sandals in my life.JackW said:
"Next summer" !!!!!!!!!TheScreamingEagles said:Me as Prime Minister? God No.
Dictator/Tyrant of the UK? Hell yeah. I'd have Brexit sorted out by next summer.
Dear god, you're just Theresa May in trouser flares, floral shirts and vegan sandals !!!
Am toying with this one.
I've made quite the impression with my new employers.
*Joke,,,,0 -
Is funny, a friend says most of the shirts I wear for work are reminiscent of the sofas his grandparents had in the 70s and 80s.Andrew said:
Pretty sure my grandmother had curtains of a similar pattern.TheScreamingEagles said:
Well this is the latest work shirt I've bought.0 -
The lime green trousers were in the 90s. My other half once hid when he saw me wearing them in the street. No pictures survive, thankfully.TheScreamingEagles said:
Pics or it didn't happen.AlastairMeeks said:@AlanBrooke I've worn lime green trousers and leather trousers. Not simultaneously.
The leather trousers are a bit of a struggle at the moment, to be honest.
I'll see what I can dredge up so far as the leather trousers are concerned.0 -
Hunt led in London and narrowly in Scotland though and was tied with women, Boris led in the North, the South and the Midlands and Wales and with men.Nigel_Foremain said:
Much higher recognition. He would also win as best game show hostHYUFD said:
Boris still led the Sky Data poll of all voters yesterday v Hunt let alone just Tory membersAlastairMeeks said:It's not really a good sign for Boris Johnson that every time he appears in public Jeremy Hunt's price shortens.
So no, not name recognition but division largely along Leaver Remainer lines.
Hunt is Foreign Secretary after all, hardly unknown0 -
Thank you Richard. Good to hear from someone who DOES have a more sophisticated political understanding. Maybe I should tone down my assaults or taunts on views I don't like on here, it probably does bring out the worst in me!Richard_Tyndall said:
HrumphBrom said:
I've seen your posts and they are almost entirely bitter and devoid of any conservative values or sentiment (and I say that as someone with no love for the Tories). I think as someone who has been on this site a long time it is fair to call out someone who resorts to insults with almost every post they make. Thank you.Nigel_Foremain said:Oh dear, Mr Brom, do grow up. I have followed this site since "Tim" was on it. I took a break from it. I don't "slag off Tories", I "slag off" (to use your limited vernacular) people with extremist or simplistic views of politics, whether right or left. You don't like my posts because you fall into that category. I dislike Brexit because it is anti-business, anti-economy, and unpatriotic (pro-Russian) IMO. I have made constructive posts on how the EU actually works, how the Conservative Party works (been a member for over 20 years, activist for 7- up until 2012, voted for Cameron) and how business interacts with politics. Brexit is incompatible with what I regard as proper Conservatism as it is destabilising and anti-business. If you have actually seen my posts you clearly have a very very unsophisticated understanding of centre right political opinion.
I disagree passionately with Nigel about the EU but otherwise I have seen nothing at all to indicate he is anything other than a committed Tory. Just because he is (in my view) utterly wrong about the EU does not make him wrong on anything or everything else. There are Eurofanatics and Eurosceptics in both the main parties.0 -
Don't go on telly in the top one, it might cause probs with the vertical holdTheScreamingEagles said:
Well this is the latest work shirt I've bought.Alanbrooke said:
youve shattered my illusions, delete that post forthwithTheScreamingEagles said:
Never worn lime green trousers, never worn leather trousers.Alanbrooke said:
what about lime green leather trousers ?TheScreamingEagles said:
I've never worn flares or sandals in my life.JackW said:
"Next summer" !!!!!!!!!TheScreamingEagles said:Me as Prime Minister? God No.
Dictator/Tyrant of the UK? Hell yeah. I'd have Brexit sorted out by next summer.
Dear god, you're just Theresa May in trouser flares, floral shirts and vegan sandals !!!
Am toying with this one.
I've made quite the impression with my new employers.0 -
Whilst that's probably right, are the LibDems and the SNP really going to put their political capital into preventing John McDonnell doing brain-dead things like forcing BP to list on the New York stock exchange rather than in London, given that this lunacy would be proposed (apparently with a straight face) as taking action on climate change? Equally, I suspect that they wouldn't rein in his financial profligacy to any significant degree; the one thing that fools can easily agree on is spending other people's or imaginary money.noneoftheabove said:Realistically a plausible Corbyn government is very different to what Corbyn would like it to be. It would be constrained by SNP, probably LD and around half the PLP who do not agree with him. The nature of that coalitions means it wouldnt be that different to Brown or Miliband.
The concern is more a Corbyn Labour party further down the line when they have greater control of the PLP and could be up against a very unpopular govt having gone thru Brexit in 5 years time, than the immediate threat of them leading the next government.0 -
I quite like the top one, though clear it is more of a dinner shirt. I can't imagine who the second one suits, certainly not that model!JackW said:
Are you a corporate buyer modelling for the visually impaired ?!?TheScreamingEagles said:
Well this is the latest work shirt I've bought.Alanbrooke said:
youve shattered my illusions, delete that post forthwithTheScreamingEagles said:
Never worn lime green trousers, never worn leather trousers.Alanbrooke said:
what about lime green leather trousers ?TheScreamingEagles said:
I've never worn flares or sandals in my life.JackW said:
"Next summer" !!!!!!!!!TheScreamingEagles said:Me as Prime Minister? God No.
Dictator/Tyrant of the UK? Hell yeah. I'd have Brexit sorted out by next summer.
Dear god, you're just Theresa May in trouser flares, floral shirts and vegan sandals !!!
Am toying with this one.
I've made quite the impression with my new employers.0 -
Could you rename yourself SubsampleMan ? Much more apposite than some impenetrable acronym.HYUFD said:
Hunt led in London and narrowly in Scotland though and was tied with women, Boris led in the North, the South and the Midlands and Wales and with men.Nigel_Foremain said:
Much higher recognition. He would also win as best game show hostHYUFD said:
Boris still led the Sky Data poll of all voters yesterday v Hunt let alone just Tory membersAlastairMeeks said:It's not really a good sign for Boris Johnson that every time he appears in public Jeremy Hunt's price shortens.
So no, not name recognition but division largely along Leaver Remainer lines.
Hunt is Foreign Secretary after all, hardly unknown
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But if you set a good example then we would all have to follow and that would be terrible.Nigel_Foremain said:
Thank you Richard. Good to hear from someone who DOES have a more sophisticated political understanding. Maybe I should tone down my assaults or taunts on views I don't like on here, it probably does bring out the worst in me!Richard_Tyndall said:
HrumphBrom said:
I've seen your posts and they are almost entirely bitter and devoid of any conservative values or sentiment (and I say that as someone with no love for the Tories). I think as someone who has been on this site a long time it is fair to call out someone who resorts to insults with almost every post they make. Thank you.Nigel_Foremain said:Oh dear, Mr Brom, do grow up. I have followed this site since "Tim" was on it. I took a break from it. I don't "slag off Tories", I "slag off" (to use your limited vernacular) people with extremist or simplistic views of politics, whether right or left. You don't like my posts because you fall into that category. I dislike Brexit because it is anti-business, anti-economy, and unpatriotic (pro-Russian) IMO. I have made constructive posts on how the EU actually works, how the Conservative Party works (been a member for over 20 years, activist for 7- up until 2012, voted for Cameron) and how business interacts with politics. Brexit is incompatible with what I regard as proper Conservatism as it is destabilising and anti-business. If you have actually seen my posts you clearly have a very very unsophisticated understanding of centre right political opinion.
I disagree passionately with Nigel about the EU but otherwise I have seen nothing at all to indicate he is anything other than a committed Tory. Just because he is (in my view) utterly wrong about the EU does not make him wrong on anything or everything else. There are Eurofanatics and Eurosceptics in both the main parties.
Taunting views and taunting posters are very different things and I think it is only the latter that are bad form. Something I still have to work on.0 -
I bet the model didn’t wear those home. That first one looks like some kind of test card for a TV or monitor.JackW said:
Are you a corporate buyer modelling for the visually impaired ?!?TheScreamingEagles said:
Well this is the latest work shirt I've bought.Alanbrooke said:
youve shattered my illusions, delete that post forthwithTheScreamingEagles said:
Never worn lime green trousers, never worn leather trousers.Alanbrooke said:
what about lime green leather trousers ?TheScreamingEagles said:
I've never worn flares or sandals in my life.JackW said:
"Next summer" !!!!!!!!!TheScreamingEagles said:Me as Prime Minister? God No.
Dictator/Tyrant of the UK? Hell yeah. I'd have Brexit sorted out by next summer.
Dear god, you're just Theresa May in trouser flares, floral shirts and vegan sandals !!!
Am toying with this one.
I've made quite the impression with my new employers.1
