Remind me he was Foreign Sec during the crucial negotiations and his ultra buddy Raab was Brexit Sec.
This is just more tinkerbell brexit.
Why cant he say something along the lines of he will renegotiate with the EU, building on the earlier exploratory negotiations without any of TM's red lines as preconditions but still try and get as close to meeting those lines as we can. It would not include the backstop, and we will get the outline of the plan agreed before October 31st with an exit date before the end of the year.
That would be credible, plausible and is presumably what he is trying to do. It would give him plenty of scope for negotiation with the EU, ERG, Tory remainers, and Labour leavers.
Would it really cost him the election? The alternative is Hunt who does not have a plan either.
Because he has created his own red line: 31st October date.
What is just utterly is that this was handed down to us by the dreaded gnomes of Brussels! Boris has only adopted because Raab did and they both want to out-Farage Farage.
The history books will tear this clown to pieces.
Brexit will rank amongst the biggest blunders in British history such as the loss of the American colonies and Charles I's attempt to rule without parliament.
It is perhaps the only upside of Boris winning. He will need to own the blunder. I hope he ends up with a humiliation that is proportionate to the damage that he has caused British business and our prosperity. Sadly karma is not always born out in real life.
No humiliation could possibly be big enough for that. Fortunately though Boris is still quite young so he will have many years in which he will be condemned on all sides for his narcissistic destructiveness. Chamberlain was dead before history buried him in ordure, but Boris (and Cameron for that matter) will suffer that fate whilst they are still living.
Boris Johnson. the man who made Britain shit again.
Remind me he was Foreign Sec during the crucial negotiations and his ultra buddy Raab was Brexit Sec.
This is just more tinkerbell brexit.
Why cant he say something along the lines of he will renegotiate with the EU, building on the earlier exploratory negotiations without any of TM's red lines as preconditions but still try and get as close to meeting those lines as we can. It would not include the backstop, and we will get the outline of the plan agreed before October 31st with an exit date before the end of the year.
That would be credible, plausible and is presumably what he is trying to do. It would give him plenty of scope for negotiation with the EU, ERG, Tory remainers, and Labour leavers.
Would it really cost him the election? The alternative is Hunt who does not have a plan either.
Because he has created his own red line: 31st October date.
What is just utterly is that this was handed down to us by the dreaded gnomes of Brussels! Boris has only adopted because Raab did and they both want to out-Farage Farage.
The history books will tear this clown to pieces.
Brexit will rank amongst the biggest blunders in British history such as the loss of the American colonies and Charles I's attempt to rule without parliament.
It is perhaps the only upside of Boris winning. He will need to own the blunder. I hope he ends up with a humiliation that is proportionate to the damage that he has caused British business and our prosperity. Sadly karma is not always born out in real life.
If he tries to blame the girlfriend isn't there the danger then that she goes public with what she found on his lap top that kicked the whole thing off?
How do you know there was something on his laptop?
Maybe Carrie had just mislaid the computer cable? That can lead to very serious altercations.
When the police investigated Layla & Richard, they were both carted off to jail in connection with assault and breach of the peace. It makes Boris & Carrie sound like a funeral tea party in comparison.
About fifteen years ago, there was a car crash near Cambridge where a man died. He and his wife were on their way back from B&Q when they had an argument, causing the car to crash. The argument was not over the colour, or type of the paint, but over whether they'd bought enough of it ...
If BXP stand in Brecon & Radnor, is it possible Tories could slip to 3rd place?
It is a vast rural constituency. I think organisation will be more than usually at a premium. BXP has no organisation in the constituency.
My guess BXP may choose Mark Reckless AM as the candidate, which will further limit their appeal. And the UKIP candidate will probably be Neil Hamilton, who is the AM for Mid and West Wales.
Lucky Brecon, eh.
Given the choice of Tory candidate, it is a LIbDem gain, with Tories in second place. However, it will be interesting to see if Dodo can hang on if there is GE. My guess is the Tories will get it right back.
If he tries to blame the girlfriend isn't there the danger then that she goes public with what she found on his lap top that kicked the whole thing off?
How do you know there was something on his laptop?
Maybe Carrie had just mislaid the computer cable? That can lead to very serious altercations.
When the police investigated Layla & Richard, they were both carted off to jail in connection with assault and breach of the peace. It makes Boris & Carrie sound like a funeral tea party in comparison.
About fifteen years ago, there was a car crash near Cambridge where a man died. He and his wife were on their way back from B&Q when they had an argument, causing the car to crash. The argument was not over the colour, or type of the paint, but over whether they'd bought enough of it ...
His CV is blandishment after blandishment. It is achievement light, other than his academic record. He is best qualified to be a polemicist, or game show host, both of which he is quite good at. He should stick to these, and someone should tell him that misplaced self belief and ego are not adequate substitutes for proper experience and accomplishment.
He was a decent Mayor, despite how some have tried to rewrite history. A Tory winning London twice was pretty unbelievable.
Remind me he was Foreign Sec during the crucial negotiations and his ultra buddy Raab was Brexit Sec.
This is just more tinkerbell brexit.
Why cant he say something along the lines of he will renegotiate with the EU, building on the earlier exploratory negotiations without any of TM's red lines as preconditions but still try and get as close to meeting those lines as we can. It would not include the backstop, and we will get the outline of the plan agreed before October 31st with an exit date before the end of the year.
That would be credible, plausible and is presumably what he is trying to do. It would give him plenty of scope for negotiation with the EU, ERG, Tory remainers, and Labour leavers.
Would it really cost him the election? The alternative is Hunt who does not have a plan either.
Because he has created his own red line: 31st October date.
What is just utterly is that this was handed down to us by the dreaded gnomes of Brussels! Boris has only adopted because Raab did and they both want to out-Farage Farage.
The history books will tear this clown to pieces.
Brexit will rank amongst the biggest blunders in British history such as the loss of the American colonies and Charles I's attempt to rule without parliament.
It is perhaps the only upside of Boris winning. He will need to own the blunder. I hope he ends up with a humiliation that is proportionate to the damage that he has caused British business and our prosperity. Sadly karma is not always born out in real life.
No humiliation could possibly be big enough for that. Fortunately though Boris is still quite young so he will have many years in which he will be condemned on all sides for his narcissistic destructiveness. Chamberlain was dead before history buried him in ordure, but Boris (and Cameron for that matter) will suffer that fate whilst they are still living.
Boris Johnson. the man who made Britain shit again.
If BXP stand in Brecon & Radnor, is it possible Tories could slip to 3rd place?
It is a vast rural constituency. I think organisation will be more than usually at a premium. BXP has no organisation in the constituency.
My guess BXP may choose Mark Reckless AM as the candidate, which will further limit their appeal. And the UKIP candidate will probably be Neil Hamilton, who is the AM for Mid and West Wales.
Lucky Brecon, eh.
Given the choice of Tory candidate, it is a LIbDem gain, with Tories in second place. However, it will be interesting to see if Dodo can hang on if there is GE. My guess is the Tories will get it right back.
By election victors almost invariably receive a significant boost at the subsequent general election - as compared with the likely outcome had there never been a by election. Copeland provides a good example from 2017 - as do Crewe & Nantwich and Norwich North from 2010. Moreover,Richard Livesey held on in 1987 having won the 1985 by election before narrowly losing in 1992. He went on to recapture the seat in 1997, and it remained LibDem held until 2015. Given the recent history of the seat, I think the LibDems would stand a good chance of retaining it at a GE.
This sounds a bit tin foily, but is it possible that the Johnson team are keeping the stories about his private life going deliberately as a way of distracting from his political policies. After all, the less he has to talk about them the fewer promises he has to make.
I wonder if he will produce any models he has made to back this up.
This will lead people to remember the new routemaster buses he bought for London at vast expense - pointless, impractical, unreliable and widely disliked (though superficially attractive). Rather like Boris himself in fact.
Off topic: any recommendations for a good hotel in Manchester. Going there in a couple of weeks to see son graduate.
Thank you.
Budget?
If you won't spend anytime in the room except sleeping (as they are tiny) I'm starting to use MotelOne and both theirs are more central than the Premier Inn / Travelodges.
Crowne Plaza was OK the last time we stayed there..
Thank you.
Depending on cost, I might treat myself as such a special outing and I have a weakness for nice hotels, having spent time as a child with my grandmother in the sorts of old-fashioned Swiss hotels that appear in Anita Brookner novels.
If you want opulence go for the Midland or the Gotham. Slightly away from the centre there’s the Lowry.
Good hotels a rung below that are the Malmaison, Radisson, Novotel, Crowne Plaza (not the one on Oxford Road.)
If only we had a rich royal family who could fund themselves independently instead of choosing a family on benefits.
The Crown Estate (plus the Duchies) dos of course generate hundreds of millions of pounds a year for the Exchequer, plus a substantial increase in capital value.
If they generate all this money for the Exchequer, they are by extension earning it. All the more reasons why they shouldn't expect the taxpayer to pick up the tab for luxurious living standards. Very bad PR for the Royals
I don't think there's any tab for the taxpayer to keep up. I believe they are now funded out of the profits of the estate only?
The beeb said this morning that the bill for the £2M renovation of Harry's "cottage" was paid by the taxpayer
Might have been over and above the normal amount they get, but still they are a net contributor to the exchequer.
If only for living through the Trump visit, they probably deserved it this year.
I wonder if he will produce any models he has made to back this up.
This will lead people to remember the new routemaster buses he bought for London at vast expense - pointless, impractical, unreliable and widely disliked (though superficially attractive). Rather like Boris himself in fact.
If only we had a rich royal family who could fund themselves independently instead of choosing a family on benefits.
The Crown Estate (plus the Duchies) dos of course generate hundreds of millions of pounds a year for the Exchequer, plus a substantial increase in capital value.
If they generate all this money for the Exchequer, they are by extension earning it. All the more reasons why they shouldn't expect the taxpayer to pick up the tab for luxurious living standards. Very bad PR for the Royals
I don't think there's any tab for the taxpayer to keep up. I believe they are now funded out of the profits of the estate only?
The beeb said this morning that the bill for the £2M renovation of Harry's "cottage" was paid by the taxpayer
Might have been over and above the normal amount they get, but still they are a net contributor to the exchequer.
If only for living through the Trump visit, they probably deserved it this year.
Another anti-Meghan story. She can do no right according to the right.
Those shocked and horrified at Boris not wanting an extension a bit over 4 months before the deadline seem to have rather glazed over the fact that he voted against getting an extension just 15 days before the deadline on 14 March. Had that vote gone his way we'd be out on 29 March.
I see little logical reason to vote against an extension on 14 March when the deadline is 29 March, but to be campaigning in favour of an extension in June when the deadline is October.
His CV is blandishment after blandishment. It is achievement light, other than his academic record. He is best qualified to be a polemicist, or game show host, both of which he is quite good at. He should stick to these, and someone should tell him that misplaced self belief and ego are not adequate substitutes for proper experience and accomplishment.
He was a decent Mayor, despite how some have tried to rewrite history. A Tory winning London twice was pretty unbelievable.
Once again, the partisan obsession with winning elections. Yes that is important, but it is like suggesting that succeeding at interview for a job is an end in itself. It is not. Was he a successful mayor? Objective evidence please?
And if Parliament instructs him to get an extension...?
How do they do that, exactly? Curious as to what mechanism you're proposing, here.
They could vote like they did on March 14, but if they leave it that late again if the PM simply says 'no I'm not doing it' there's little they can do. Holding him in contempt won't make him do it. A VONC will only work if Parliament is prepared to elect Corbyn to head a GONU [since Corbyn would veto any alternatives and you won't find 300+ MPs willing to defect from the Tory and Labour parties].
Off topic: any recommendations for a good hotel in Manchester. Going there in a couple of weeks to see son graduate.
Thank you.
Budget?
If you won't spend anytime in the room except sleeping (as they are tiny) I'm starting to use MotelOne and both theirs are more central than the Premier Inn / Travelodges.
Crowne Plaza was OK the last time we stayed there..
Thank you.
Depending on cost, I might treat myself as such a special outing and I have a weakness for nice hotels, having spent time as a child with my grandmother in the sorts of old-fashioned Swiss hotels that appear in Anita Brookner novels.
Do you have any preferences as to location? The MalMaison is close to Manchester Piccadilly train station while the Motel One is opposite it, for example.
His CV is blandishment after blandishment. It is achievement light, other than his academic record. He is best qualified to be a polemicist, or game show host, both of which he is quite good at. He should stick to these, and someone should tell him that misplaced self belief and ego are not adequate substitutes for proper experience and accomplishment.
He was a decent Mayor, despite how some have tried to rewrite history. A Tory winning London twice was pretty unbelievable.
Once again, the partisan obsession with winning elections. Yes that is important, but it is like suggesting that succeeding at interview for a job is an end in itself. It is not. Was he a successful mayor? Objective evidence please?
I think he was, he got re-elected. Obviously a left winger like yourself who pretends to be a Tory might disagree
Painting models is a good stress relief tool. I like painting Warhammer miniatures, I don't play the game anymore (last played 20 years ago when I was a teenager) but its a good way to unwind.
This sounds a bit tin foily, but is it possible that the Johnson team are keeping the stories about his private life going deliberately as a way of distracting from his political policies. After all, the less he has to talk about them the fewer promises he has to make.
Yes -- and Hunt needs to get this back to Boris's inconsistencies on policy.
Those shocked and horrified at Boris not wanting an extension a bit over 4 months before the deadline seem to have rather glazed over the fact that he voted against getting an extension just 15 days before the deadline on 14 March. Had that vote gone his way we'd be out on 29 March.
I see little logical reason to vote against an extension on 14 March when the deadline is 29 March, but to be campaigning in favour of an extension in June when the deadline is October.
There's an extremely good reason - he won't have time to do anything, even to make the most basic emergency preparations for a chaotic no-deal crash out, and he'd be in charge. The fact that he voted irresponsibly as a backbencher in March doesn't absolve him of responsibility if, God forbid, he's PM.
Has no-one on the Boris team actually looked at the calendar?
Painting models is a good stress relief tool. I like painting Warhammer miniatures, I don't play the game anymore (last played 20 years ago when I was a teenager) but its a good way to unwind.
Sure. It would be good to see a picture of a couple of his models, though, just to show that it's not a random answer. I think it would be rather appealing, in fact.
Those shocked and horrified at Boris not wanting an extension a bit over 4 months before the deadline seem to have rather glazed over the fact that he voted against getting an extension just 15 days before the deadline on 14 March. Had that vote gone his way we'd be out on 29 March.
I see little logical reason to vote against an extension on 14 March when the deadline is 29 March, but to be campaigning in favour of an extension in June when the deadline is October.
He will need to fight an election if he is hell bent on us leaving on 31 Oct. I hope we get one but I predict he will choose to avoid it.
I see him agreeing an extension and banking (successfully) on the ERG hardliners making a great deal of noise but not bringing him down.
I think he will go that way because if he goes the other way (tries to drive through No Deal) the Grieve faction WILL bring him down.
If BXP stand in Brecon & Radnor, is it possible Tories could slip to 3rd place?
I don't think fascism is very popular in Wales, oh hang on there was Neil cash for questions thingyjig.
Oh, that is disappointing. Good that you are owning up to what the Brexit Party actually is though. At least you are honest about it.
I ignore your ridiculous F words. The chance of allowing you to try and make that imbecilic point was worth it to put you right.
Once again, anyone who thinks Brexit is a good idea accusing anyone of being imbecilic is rich in irony. Fascism is anything but ridiculous though. Repulsive, yes, ridiculous no. You might want to call divisive nationalism that is led by an egotistical zealot something different. I call it what it is, an unpleasant regressive doctrine that causes hatred, and it used to be known as fascism. In the UK it is now called the Brexit Party, or Faragism.
No, I get the take control of parliamentary business bit, but the earlier precedent was with an administration that was not, practically, prepared to countenance a no deal exit. Are you sure it couldn't be stymied by a leave-at-all-costs Executive?
If BXP stand in Brecon & Radnor, is it possible Tories could slip to 3rd place?
I don't think fascism is very popular in Wales, oh hang on there was Neil cash for questions thingyjig.
Oh, that is disappointing. Good that you are owning up to what the Brexit Party actually is though. At least you are honest about it.
I ignore your ridiculous F words. The chance of allowing you to try and make that imbecilic point was worth it to put you right.
Once again, anyone who thinks Brexit is a good idea accusing anyone of being imbecilic is rich in irony. Fascism is anything but ridiculous though. Repulsive, yes, ridiculous no. You might want to call divisive nationalism that is led by an egotistical zealot something different. I call it what it is, an unpleasant regressive doctrine that causes hatred, and it used to be known as fascism. In the UK it is now called the Brexit Party, or Faragism.
Let's be honest you're a cretinous troll who thinks everyone to the right of Corbyn is a fascist. I'm delighted over half the country disagree with you because otherwise we would be in a right state. Enjoy the Conservative Government
This sounds a bit tin foily, but is it possible that the Johnson team are keeping the stories about his private life going deliberately as a way of distracting from his political policies. After all, the less he has to talk about them the fewer promises he has to make.
Yes -- and Hunt needs to get this back to Boris's inconsistencies on policy.
And his complete lack of actual achievement in government office
If BXP stand in Brecon & Radnor, is it possible Tories could slip to 3rd place?
I don't think fascism is very popular in Wales, oh hang on there was Neil cash for questions thingyjig.
Oh, that is disappointing. Good that you are owning up to what the Brexit Party actually is though. At least you are honest about it.
I ignore your ridiculous F words. The chance of allowing you to try and make that imbecilic point was worth it to put you right.
Once again, anyone who thinks Brexit is a good idea accusing anyone of being imbecilic is rich in irony. Fascism is anything but ridiculous though. Repulsive, yes, ridiculous no. You might want to call divisive nationalism that is led by an egotistical zealot something different. I call it what it is, an unpleasant regressive doctrine that causes hatred, and it used to be known as fascism. In the UK it is now called the Brexit Party, or Faragism.
Except you are full of s**t.
Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of radical right-wing, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.
Even if you believe leaving the EU to be radical or rightwing (despite being supported by many on the left) or ultranationalism . . . Leaving the EU isn't authoritarian, it isn't dictatorial, it isn't forcibly suppressing the opposition, it doesn't involve a strong regimentation of society and doesn't involve strong regimentation of the economy.
I don't think many are saying its wrong to call 999 when you think there is a risk.
Calling The Guardian when you are told it was a false alarm is a different matter.
And you, of course, wouldn't call the Daily Brexitograph if you heard similar goings on from a political figure you didn't approve of? Corbyn? Anna Soubry? Of course not!!
Mr. Foremain, lack of achievement would be an improvement on his actual performance. Boris wasn't a bland, inactive minister. He was an incompetent one.
And if Parliament instructs him to get an extension...?
How do they do that, exactly? Curious as to what mechanism you're proposing, here.
They could vote like they did on March 14, but if they leave it that late again if the PM simply says 'no I'm not doing it' there's little they can do. Holding him in contempt won't make him do it. A VONC will only work if Parliament is prepared to elect Corbyn to head a GONU [since Corbyn would veto any alternatives and you won't find 300+ MPs willing to defect from the Tory and Labour parties].
You don't need 300+ MPs to defect. You only need a handful of opposition MPs to support an alternative Tory PM who will ask for an extension.
This sounds a bit tin foily, but is it possible that the Johnson team are keeping the stories about his private life going deliberately as a way of distracting from his political policies. After all, the less he has to talk about them the fewer promises he has to make.
Yes -- and Hunt needs to get this back to Boris's inconsistencies on policy.
And his complete lack of actual achievement in government office
No, I get the take control of parliamentary business bit, but the earlier precedent was with an administration that was not, practically, prepared to countenance a no deal exit. Are you sure it couldn't be stymied by a leave-at-all-costs Executive?
Then you replace the Prime Minister with someone willing to carry out the will of Parliament.
The effective tax rate on the Crown Estate was temporarily cut from 85% to 75% specifically to pay for the renovations needed at Buck House. And if we had a presidency the taxpayer would still be paying for Buck House, in the same way that the taxpayer pays for Macron and Trump's gaffs - it's been neglected in the same way that the Palace of Westminster has been.
Are we sure Boris is no longer using Class A substances?
Because that answer on buses could have come from Syd Barrett circa 1968.
He is lying. He does not paint models of buses. He will now have to come up with some photos to prove it and those photos - like the ones with Carrie - will not pass the smell test. Voila - and out of nothing - Busgate.
"What a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive."
Painting models is a good stress relief tool. I like painting Warhammer miniatures, I don't play the game anymore (last played 20 years ago when I was a teenager) but its a good way to unwind.
Sure. It would be good to see a picture of a couple of his models, though, just to show that it's not a random answer. I think it would be rather appealing, in fact.
What does "I don't mean buses" actually mean?
I make models of buses, but they are not buses, as I don't mean buses, I mean some other object. So what are they models of? Something with passengers by sounds of it. Hovercraft perhaps?
No, I get the take control of parliamentary business bit, but the earlier precedent was with an administration that was not, practically, prepared to countenance a no deal exit. Are you sure it couldn't be stymied by a leave-at-all-costs Executive?
Then you replace the Prime Minister with someone willing to carry out the will of Parliament.
Boris discloses an interest in the bus. Clearly a man of the people but one is minded to recall another Conservative Prime Minister who at a moment of crisis was a fan of the bus :
"The result was that when war did break out German preparations were far ahead of our own, and it was natural then to expect that the enemy would take advantage of his initial superiority to make an endeavour to overwhelm us and France before we had time to make good our deficiencies. Is it not a very extraordinary thing that no such attempt was made? Whatever may be the reason—whether it was that Hitler thought he might get away with what he had got without fighting for it, or whether it was that after all the preparations were not sufficiently complete—however, one thing is certain: he missed the bus."
Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain in a speech to Conservatives at the Central Hall Westminster on 4th April 1940.
The 7th May "Norway Debate" shocked Chamberlain and when Hitler's troops invaded the low countries on 10th May Chamberlain resigned the same day.
No, I get the take control of parliamentary business bit, but the earlier precedent was with an administration that was not, practically, prepared to countenance a no deal exit. Are you sure it couldn't be stymied by a leave-at-all-costs Executive?
Then you replace the Prime Minister with someone willing to carry out the will of Parliament.
Oh, that's easy, then. It's not as if we have a Commons that have been unable to agree on anything except what they don't want, any time they've been asked...
Sounds like a central case of running the clock down until 31/10/19 is looking more and more likely.
Are we sure Boris is no longer using Class A substances?
Because that answer on buses could have come from Syd Barrett circa 1968.
He is lying. He does not paint models of buses. He will now have to come up with some photos to prove it and those photos - like the ones with Carrie - will not pass the smell test. Voila - and out of nothing - Busgate.
"What a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive."
Look at the quote again. Boris saw the trap halfway through and now paints old crates. As you do. And as can be knocked up overnight should anyone demand evidence.
Are we sure Boris is no longer using Class A substances?
Because that answer on buses could have come from Syd Barrett circa 1968.
He is lying. He does not paint models of buses. He will now have to come up with some photos to prove it and those photos - like the ones with Carrie - will not pass the smell test. Voila - and out of nothing - Busgate.
"What a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive."
Look at the quote again. Boris saw the trap halfway through and now paints old crates. As you do. And as can be knocked up overnight should anyone demand evidence.
I imagine Private Pike is knocking up a model bus from an old crate as we type.
You don't need 300+ MPs to defect. You only need a handful of opposition MPs to support an alternative Tory PM who will ask for an extension.
That doesn't work. There is no way that the bulk of Tory MPs would go along with that.
So they would VONC a Tory PM? That's a hanging offence isn't it? I can see some of the ERGs doing it but not the bulk.
In reality, simply the threat of a VONC will be a "nuclear deterrent", and will probably scare Boris into complying with Parliament before we actually got there.
Obvious point, but does the Boris campaign releasing that old photo not raise suspicion about why Carrie was unwilling to have a new lovey-dovey photo taken?
You don't need 300+ MPs to defect. You only need a handful of opposition MPs to support an alternative Tory PM who will ask for an extension.
That doesn't work. There is no way that the bulk of Tory MPs would go along with that.
So they would VONC a Tory PM? That's a hanging offence isn't it? I can see some of the ERGs doing it but not the bulk.
There wouldn't be a Tory PM to vote against. Her Maj doesn't just go around appointing random MPs to be Prime Minister, it has to be someone who seems likely in advance to command the confidence of the house.
If BXP stand in Brecon & Radnor, is it possible Tories could slip to 3rd place?
I don't think fascism is very popular in Wales, oh hang on there was Neil cash for questions thingyjig.
Oh, that is disappointing. Good that you are owning up to what the Brexit Party actually is though. At least you are honest about it.
I ignore your ridiculous F words. The chance of allowing you to try and make that imbecilic point was worth it to put you right.
Once again, anyone who thinks Brexit is a good idea accusing anyone of being imbecilic is rich in irony. Fascism is anything but ridiculous though. Repulsive, yes, ridiculous no. You might want to call divisive nationalism that is led by an egotistical zealot something different. I call it what it is, an unpleasant regressive doctrine that causes hatred, and it used to be known as fascism. In the UK it is now called the Brexit Party, or Faragism.
Let's be honest you're a cretinous troll who thinks everyone to the right of Corbyn is a fascist. I'm delighted over half the country disagree with you because otherwise we would be in a right state. Enjoy the Conservative Government
haha. I am a Tory ex-Party activist you blinkered plonker. Once again, any Brexit fantasist calling anyone "cretinous" or imbecilic is ironic in the extreme as you follow an imbecilic creed. I am a Conservative centrist and fascist loather. I detest Corbyn, but I equally find I find the lurch to the extreme right in the Conservative Party extremely dumb, and I have met plenty of swivel eyed nutters like you in the party who have as much understanding of the matters that they pontificate on as the average amoeba. The ascendency of the puerile views that you represent is why I will probably change my party allegiance, which I am sure you might be pleased at as you would like the Conservative party to become Brexit National Party Lite. One day the country will grow up, and realise that basing foreign policy on the views of people who read too many war comics is not advisable.
No, I get the take control of parliamentary business bit, but the earlier precedent was with an administration that was not, practically, prepared to countenance a no deal exit. Are you sure it couldn't be stymied by a leave-at-all-costs Executive?
The executive can have as much intent as it wishes if it doesn't have the numbers, and it doesn't, its academic. If Parliament votes to stop them and the government seeks to continue regardless Parliament will withdraw confidence.
If BXP stand in Brecon & Radnor, is it possible Tories could slip to 3rd place?
I don't think fascism is very popular in Wales, oh hang on there was Neil cash for questions thingyjig.
Oh, that is disappointing. Good that you are owning up to what the Brexit Party actually is though. At least you are honest about it.
I ignore your ridiculous F words. The chance of allowing you to try and make that imbecilic point was worth it to put you right.
Once again, anyone who thinks Brexit is a good idea accusing anyone of being imbecilic is rich in irony. Fascism is anything but ridiculous though. Repulsive, yes, ridiculous no. You might want to call divisive nationalism that is led by an egotistical zealot something different. I call it what it is, an unpleasant regressive doctrine that causes hatred, and it used to be known as fascism. In the UK it is now called the Brexit Party, or Faragism.
Let's be honest you're a cretinous troll who thinks everyone to the right of Corbyn is a fascist. I'm delighted over half the country disagree with you because otherwise we would be in a right state. Enjoy the Conservative Government
haha. I am a Tory ex-Party activist you blinkered plonker. Once again, any Brexit fantasist calling anyone "cretinous" or imbecilic is ironic in the extreme as you follow an imbecilic creed. I am a Conservative centrist and fascist loather. I detest Corbyn, but I equally find I find the lurch to the extreme right in the Conservative Party extremely dumb, and I have met plenty of swivel eyed nutters like you in the party who have as much understanding of the matters that they pontificate on as the average amoeba. The ascendency of the puerile views that you represent is why I will probably change my party allegiance, which I am sure you might be pleased at as you would like the Conservative party to become Brexit National Party Lite. One day the country will grow up, and realise that basing foreign policy on the views of people who read too many war comics is not advisable.
No one on this forum believes a word you say. Joined less than a year ago, 3,000 posts all slagging off the Tories. No wonder you're a laughing stock. You have little understanding of political betting and your posts are entirely based upon slagging others off. I take great delight in knowing your far left politics will never lead to the UK government you crave/
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Edit: it was the wife that died:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1512373/Wife-died-in-crash-after-grabbing-the-wheel-during-row.html
My guess BXP may choose Mark Reckless AM as the candidate, which will further limit their appeal. And the UKIP candidate will probably be Neil Hamilton, who is the AM for Mid and West Wales.
Lucky Brecon, eh.
Given the choice of Tory candidate, it is a LIbDem gain, with Tories in second place. However, it will be interesting to see if Dodo can hang on if there is GE. My guess is the Tories will get it right back.
"Number one she's not my type. Number two it never happened."
I got the order wrong. Many apologies.
Appears he's most concerned to get over the message that he would NEVER sexually assault a woman who he does not consider a looker.
Because I guess his 'base' might take a dim view of him doing that. They might start to suspect he has no standards.
(She drives buses as a hobby.)
As always, and in this case with charlatans, America does it bigger.
On the other hand, that is hardly justification for selecting a fool as the next prime minister.
That doesn't mean that he's PM material; just that Trump is so horrid that he makes Nixon seem a deeply moral man.
This will lead people to remember the new routemaster buses he bought for London at vast expense - pointless, impractical, unreliable and widely disliked (though superficially attractive). Rather like Boris himself in fact.
May be a rumour.
I've said this before on here a couple of times so once more won't harm -
I really want a No Deal Brexit to be thwarted. I really REALLY want Labour to win the next election.
But I want Trump beaten (and preferably thrashed) in 2020 far more than either of the above.
https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1143461557332062210
ITV now claiming writ won't be moved.
I see little logical reason to vote against an extension on 14 March when the deadline is 29 March, but to be campaigning in favour of an extension in June when the deadline is October.
He is so used to blarring his way out of anything he has previously said that he doesn't care.
Because that answer on buses could have come from Syd Barrett circa 1968.
https://inews.co.uk/news/brexit/brexit-vote-result-indicative-votes-oliver-letwin-theresa-may/
Painting models is a good stress relief tool. I like painting Warhammer miniatures, I don't play the game anymore (last played 20 years ago when I was a teenager) but its a good way to unwind.
Unless Parliament is willing to elect Corbyn there's little it can do.
A social media account for a Met borough told the public “you are not interfering” for getting involved in domestic incidents.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9365505/boris-johnson-carrie-symonds-neighbours-defended/
Has no-one on the Boris team actually looked at the calendar?
I see him agreeing an extension and banking (successfully) on the ERG hardliners making a great deal of noise but not bringing him down.
I think he will go that way because if he goes the other way (tries to drive through No Deal) the Grieve faction WILL bring him down.
Calling The Guardian when you are told it was a false alarm is a different matter.
It all becomes clear!
No wonder you're so against the filthy xenos!
[40K reference, for those unaware].
Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of radical right-wing, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.
Even if you believe leaving the EU to be radical or rightwing (despite being supported by many on the left) or ultranationalism . . . Leaving the EU isn't authoritarian, it isn't dictatorial, it isn't forcibly suppressing the opposition, it doesn't involve a strong regimentation of society and doesn't involve strong regimentation of the economy.
https://twitter.com/Mike_Blackley/status/1143419760815824896
"What a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive."
I make models of buses, but they are not buses, as I don't mean buses, I mean some other object. So what are they models of? Something with passengers by sounds of it. Hovercraft perhaps?
"The result was that when war did break out German preparations were far ahead of our own, and it was natural then to expect that the enemy would take advantage of his initial superiority to make an endeavour to overwhelm us and France before we had time to make good our deficiencies. Is it not a very extraordinary thing that no such attempt was made? Whatever may be the reason—whether it was that Hitler thought he might get away with what he had got without fighting for it, or whether it was that after all the preparations were not sufficiently complete—however, one thing is certain: he missed the bus."
Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain in a speech to Conservatives at the Central Hall Westminster on 4th April 1940.
The 7th May "Norway Debate" shocked Chamberlain and when Hitler's troops invaded the low countries on 10th May Chamberlain resigned the same day.
Sounds like a central case of running the clock down until 31/10/19 is looking more and more likely.
I suspect it's a combination of half his team haven't noticed details like that, and half have noticed and don't care
Though it’s not unknown for Johnsonian ejaculations to have long term consequences.
"could" it's laughable
much like the economy "could" have 5 million unemployed, the supermarkets "could" run out of food etc.
he's doing what Osborne did, but even more incompetently