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> @JosiasJessop said:
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> I've never lived in the city centre (Milton, Waterbeach, Fen Ditton - a few meters outside the city bounds - Great Shelford, and now Cambourne), but its changed massively in the 22 years I've been around here, on and off.
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> But those new developments you mention are shite, designed by architects who only have access to set squares and who seem to desperately love the rectangle over all other shapes. They're hideous.
You won't get any argument from me there, I struggle to believe any architects were actually involved, beyond signing their names on the forms. As with any new development anywhere in the country since 2000-ish the new developments in Cambridge are shite. Tiny gardens, tiny rooms, walls made of cardboard and people parking all over the place. Unfortunately I say that as someone living on a new-build estate in St Neots, so I only have myself to blame really.0 -
> @Sean_F said:
> > @thecommissioner said:
> > https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/1129828517548560385
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> Just one month ago, I would have thought those were EU Parliamentary voting intentions.
unreal period we living through0 -
I'm not sure the Euros have really got traction with the public. I've seen none of my friends discussing it on social media and zero at work.
I still think TBP is overcooked but I might be wrong about that as the dynamic is different to the 2014 euros.0 -
> @Casino_Royale said:
> I'm not sure the Euros have really got traction with the public. I've seen none of my friends discussing it on social media and zero at work.
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> I still think TBP is overcooked but I might be wrong about that as the dynamic is different to the 2014 euros.
I expect turnout around 35%, the question is who is best at GOTV.0 -
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> @Casino_Royale said:
> I'm not sure the Euros have really got traction with the public. I've seen none of my friends discussing it on social media and zero at work.
>
> I still think TBP is overcooked but I might be wrong about that as the dynamic is different to the 2014 euros.
Only anecdotal of course, but I had a discussion at work with a couple of colleagues in Remain Central (Cambridge) over lunch the other day about the EU elections. Of the three of them none realised that the Brexit Party was leading the polls, nor that the Conservatives were predicted to do so badly. These are all people I'd expect to be centrist-Remain types who always vote, but don't pay much attention to politics outside elections. I do wonder if there's a sense of complacency among Remainers in some parts of the country and that Farage will benefit off this significantly. I've not seen a single sign in anyone's window yet either.0 -
> @nichomar said:
> > @dyedwoolie said:
> > > @nichomar said:
> > > > @dyedwoolie said:
> > > > > @DoubleD said:
> > > > > > @dyedwoolie said:
> > > > > > In better news for change I saw my first Change UK placard outside a house in Norwich today. I expect them to get about 8% and I think theyll pick up two meps - Esler in London and they might get one in the SE, theyll probably do ok in the SE, London and the remainy parts of the Midlands. They aren't going away, and there's a lot of facebook/social media support which theyll need to find how to keep energized. They need someone to take charge of establishing their base and constitution etc and have a more formal launch at an autumn conference
> > > > >
> > > > > They are likely to get zero, as there are at least 5 bigger parties than them, and at most 8 seats per region. Brexit party will get 2 per region and typcailly Lab or Libs will get 2. 5 for the big 3. Therefore CUK fighting it out with Tories, UKIP and Greens for the last 3. Greens are powering on. CUK won't beat Tories. So,8th at best, after Brexit/Lab/Lib take 5, but likely the big 3 will take 6.
> > > >
> > > > I think including the Liberals as part of the big 3 is somewhat optimistic based on a couple of good polls, they dont have a great poll to actual vote ratio. I am expecting Labour to struggle to get much above 16-18% so parties getting 9% say are going to be placed to squeeze out Labours second seat
> > > > Something like
> > > > Brexit 30
> > > > Labour 17
> > > > Tory 12
> > > > Lib dem 12
> > > > Green 9
> > > > Change 8
> > > > UKIP who cares
> > > > In England would put change in the running for the last seat in a number of regions, Brexit 3 the rest one a piece a possible outcome in 8 seat regions on this sort of vote
> > >
> > > How do change get 8?
> >
> > What when they have polled 8 in the last 2 weeks and are currently at 5 or 6, and have the advantage of 'newness' making their admittedly small vote relatively hard
> > I'm stumped, how can they increase their share by 1 or 2 %?? Its a gulf that can never be breached!
> > Theyll get 8 to 10 in London I think, certainly theor hopes for a seat are most likely London, SE and East regions.
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> Sorry read that as eight seats but even eight % is unlikely. The lib dems have a ground Organization which neither brexit or change have. Wait for turn out if below 30% the lib dems will do well if it hits 50% then who knows
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The LibDems have a ground operation in 10-20% of the country.0 -
> @franklyn said:
> Peterborough by-election on 6th June
> There are fifteen candidates, and given a certain public weariness with elections and total disenchantment with the conventional parties, it could be won with a very low number of votes.
> Surely the value bet here is the Monster raving loony party at 1000-1
Only if the loonies are running the resurrected zombie corpse of Kat Mandu0 -
Record Euro Election turnout in the UK was 38.5% in 2004. Record lowest was 24.0% in 1999. In 2014, it was 35.6%.Foxy said:> @Casino_Royale said:
> I'm not sure the Euros have really got traction with the public. I've seen none of my friends discussing it on social media and zero at work.
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> I still think TBP is overcooked but I might be wrong about that as the dynamic is different to the 2014 euros.
I expect turnout around 35%, the question is who is best at GOTV.0 -
Hmm. GOTV doesn't really happen at a material level in the Euros. The constituencies are too big and the voting too proportional for it to matter.Foxy said:> @Casino_Royale said:
> I'm not sure the Euros have really got traction with the public. I've seen none of my friends discussing it on social media and zero at work.
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> I still think TBP is overcooked but I might be wrong about that as the dynamic is different to the 2014 euros.
I expect turnout around 35%, the question is who is best at GOTV.
We should have left by now, and haven't, so I'd tilt in favour of Brexit turnout slightly. But we'll have to wait and see.0 -
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> @bigjohnowls said:
> ??
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> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6vt4lmWsAIud-e.jpg:large
Unconvinced.
Farage was a 15 year old Dulwich College public school boy in 1979.
Neither the age nor the clothes look right to me,0 -
> @Sunil_Prasannan said:
> > @Casino_Royale said:
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> > I'm not sure the Euros have really got traction with the public. I've seen none of my friends discussing it on social media and zero at work.
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> >
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> > I still think TBP is overcooked but I might be wrong about that as the dynamic is different to the 2014 euros.
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> I expect turnout around 35%, the question is who is best at GOTV.
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> Record Euro Election turnout in the UK was 38.5% in 2004. Record lowest was 24.0% in 1999. In 2014, it was 35.6%.
Since 1999 Euro Elections have been combined with Local Elections in order to boost turnout.0 -
That's definitely fake news. Desperate stuff from Labour tbh.bigjohnowls said:0 -
> @JonWC said:
> > @nichomar said:
> > > @dyedwoolie said:
> > > > @nichomar said:
> > > > > @dyedwoolie said:
> > > > > > @DoubleD said:
> > > > > > > @dyedwoolie said:
> > > > > > > In better news for change I saw my first Change UK placard outside a house in Norwich today. I expect them to get about 8% and I think theyll pick up two meps - Esler in London and they might get one in the SE, theyll probably do ok in the SE, London and the remainy parts of the Midlands. They aren't going away, and there's a lot of facebook/social media support which theyll need to find how to keep energized. They need someone to take charge of establishing their base and constitution etc and have a more formal launch at an autumn conference
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They are likely to get zero, as there are at least 5 bigger parties than them, and at most 8 seats per region. Brexit party will get 2 per region and typcailly Lab or Libs will get 2. 5 for the big 3. Therefore CUK fighting it out with Tories, UKIP and Greens for the last 3. Greens are powering on. CUK won't beat Tories. So,8th at best, after Brexit/Lab/Lib take 5, but likely the big 3 will take 6.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think including the Liberals as part of the big 3 is somewhat optimistic based on a couple of good polls, they dont have a great poll to actual vote ratio. I am expecting Labour to struggle to get much above 16-18% so parties getting 9% say are going to be placed to squeeze out Labours second seat
> > > > > Something like
> > > > > Brexit 30
> > > > > Labour 17
> > > > > Tory 12
> > > > > Lib dem 12
> > > > > Green 9
> > > > > Change 8
> > > > > UKIP who cares
> > > > > In England would put change in the running for the last seat in a number of regions, Brexit 3 the rest one a piece a possible outcome in 8 seat regions on this sort of vote
> > > >
> > > > How do change get 8?
> > >
> > > What when they have polled 8 in the last 2 weeks and are currently at 5 or 6, and have the advantage of 'newness' making their admittedly small vote relatively hard
> > > I'm stumped, how can they increase their share by 1 or 2 %?? Its a gulf that can never be breached!
> > > Theyll get 8 to 10 in London I think, certainly theor hopes for a seat are most likely London, SE and East regions.
> >
> > Sorry read that as eight seats but even eight % is unlikely. The lib dems have a ground Organization which neither brexit or change have. Wait for turn out if below 30% the lib dems will do well if it hits 50% then who knows
> >
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> The LibDems have a ground operation in 10-20% of the country.
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> @Mauve said:
> > @JosiasJessop said:
> >
> > I've never lived in the city centre (Milton, Waterbeach, Fen Ditton - a few meters outside the city bounds - Great Shelford, and now Cambourne), but its changed massively in the 22 years I've been around here, on and off.
> >
> > But those new developments you mention are shite, designed by architects who only have access to set squares and who seem to desperately love the rectangle over all other shapes. They're hideous.
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> You won't get any argument from me there, I struggle to believe any architects were actually involved, beyond signing their names on the forms. As with any new development anywhere in the country since 2000-ish the new developments in Cambridge are shite. Tiny gardens, tiny rooms, walls made of cardboard and people parking all over the place. Unfortunately I say that as someone living on a new-build estate in St Neots, so I only have myself to blame really.
AH, that means I've almost certainly walked and run around your estate, as I think I've done all of the sizeable ones.
Loves Farm is surprisingly pleasant - they did that right, though I've heard dodgy things from friends about build quality. I don't like the other one south by the river.
We were in St Neots today, watching John Wick 3 in the cinema that was built twice...0 -
Neither have I.Mauve said:> @Casino_Royale said:
> I'm not sure the Euros have really got traction with the public. I've seen none of my friends discussing it on social media and zero at work.
>
> I still think TBP is overcooked but I might be wrong about that as the dynamic is different to the 2014 euros.
Only anecdotal of course, but I had a discussion at work with a couple of colleagues in Remain Central (Cambridge) over lunch the other day about the EU elections. Of the three of them none realised that the Brexit Party was leading the polls, nor that the Conservatives were predicted to do so badly. These are all people I'd expect to be centrist-Remain types who always vote, but don't pay much attention to politics outside elections. I do wonder if there's a sense of complacency among Remainers in some parts of the country and that Farage will benefit off this significantly. I've not seen a single sign in anyone's window yet either.
One thing I'm very certain of: Farage's opponents have absolutely no clue how to handle him. Any opposition I've seen has been the usual diet of calling him a bit of a racist and screaming, "who funds you?!"
It's completely pathetic, but obviously makes them feel a tad better.1 -
> @Casino_Royale said:
> > @Casino_Royale said:
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> > I'm not sure the Euros have really got traction with the public. I've seen none of my friends discussing it on social media and zero at work.
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> > I still think TBP is overcooked but I might be wrong about that as the dynamic is different to the 2014 euros.
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> I expect turnout around 35%, the question is who is best at GOTV.
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> Hmm. GOTV doesn't really happen at a material level in the Euros. The constituencies are too big and the voting too proportional for it to matter.
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> We should have left by now, and haven't, so I'd tilt in favour of Brexit turnout slightly. But we'll have to wait and see.
I am just thinking that habitual voters are more likely to turnout than occasional voters. Not entirely sure how this shakes out in middle class but older. Perhaps Cons not so dismal as expected, but good for the LDs methinks.0 -
> @MaxPB said:
> ??
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> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6vt4lmWsAIud-e.jpg:large
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> That's definitely fake news. Desperate stuff from Labour tbh.<
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Yes I believe that has been investigated, and debunked completely.0 -
> @Sunil_Prasannan said:
> It's Eurovision time!!!
There had better be a "confirmatory" vote at the end to make 100% certain people knew what they were voting for.
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> @Mauve said:
> > @Casino_Royale said:
> > I'm not sure the Euros have really got traction with the public. I've seen none of my friends discussing it on social media and zero at work.
> >
> > I still think TBP is overcooked but I might be wrong about that as the dynamic is different to the 2014 euros.
>
> Only anecdotal of course, but I had a discussion at work with a couple of colleagues in Remain Central (Cambridge) over lunch the other day about the EU elections. Of the three of them none realised that the Brexit Party was leading the polls, nor that the Conservatives were predicted to do so badly. These are all people I'd expect to be centrist-Remain types who always vote, but don't pay much attention to politics outside elections. I do wonder if there's a sense of complacency among Remainers in some parts of the country and that Farage will benefit off this significantly. I've not seen a single sign in anyone's window yet either.
Glorious news. 0 -
> @bigjohnowls said:
> ??
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> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6vt4lmWsAIud-e.jpg:large
I doubt if 15 year old Nigel Farage would have dressed in such a manner, or would have been taking time out of school. Nor does it really look like him.0 -
> @williamglenn said:
> https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1129830887540121601?s=21
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> @shiney2 said:
> Nigel goes shopping and meets some friends..
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> https://twitter.com/i/status/1129635227108876288
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Yet another slick video. Farage looks like a man slightly possessed by destiny. He's plugged into the mains. He's amped.0 -
> @thecommissioner said:
> https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/1129828517548560385
Putting those numbers into EC gives:
CON 163
LAB 298
LIB 22
UKIP 0
Green 0
SNP 55
PlaidC 4
ChUK 0
Brexit 90
Minor 0
N.Ire 18
Farage lets in a Corbyn / Sturgeon government. Tories down to numbers not seen since 1997. If those numbers were anywhere near accurate (debatable given the current situation) you can't fault his strategy of pretending to be in favour of both Leave and Remain.0 -
Norway song the best yet.0
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> @JohnO said:
> > @NickPalmer said:
> > Went round my ward to deliver thank-you leaflets to everyone today and invite them to join my email list - some pleasant reactions to a politician NOT asking them about voting. I didn't think that pestering them about the Euros would be productive - just showing that voting Labour had produced a councillor who stayed in touch seemed as good a tactic as any. My impression nationally FWIW is that Labour's vote has stopped falling and Brexit's has stopped rising, but the latter are clearly ahead.
>
> So, are you about to become Leader of Waverley Borough Council as the compromise candidate of a four party coalition?
No (lol), but some nice developments all the same coming on Tuesday. Promotion rather faster than it was at Westminster!0 -
Does it matter?Sean_F said:> @bigjohnowls said:
> ??
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> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6vt4lmWsAIud-e.jpg:large
I doubt if 15 year old Nigel Farage would have dressed in such a manner, or would have been taking time out of school. Nor does it really look like him.
It provides a delicious attack meme.0 -
> @NickPalmer said:
> > @JohnO said:
> > > @NickPalmer said:
> > > Went round my ward to deliver thank-you leaflets to everyone today and invite them to join my email list - some pleasant reactions to a politician NOT asking them about voting. I didn't think that pestering them about the Euros would be productive - just showing that voting Labour had produced a councillor who stayed in touch seemed as good a tactic as any. My impression nationally FWIW is that Labour's vote has stopped falling and Brexit's has stopped rising, but the latter are clearly ahead.
> >
> > So, are you about to become Leader of Waverley Borough Council as the compromise candidate of a four party coalition?
>
> No (lol), but some nice developments all the same coming on Tuesday. Promotion rather faster than it was at Westminster!
Palmer in the Cabinet. At last.0 -
> @MaxPB said:
> ??
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> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6vt4lmWsAIud-e.jpg:large
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> That's definitely fake news. Desperate stuff from Labour tbh.
Does this come from Labour?0 -
> @Casino_Royale said:
> > @bigjohnowls said:
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> > ??
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> > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6vt4lmWsAIud-e.jpg:large
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> I doubt if 15 year old Nigel Farage would have dressed in such a manner, or would have been taking time out of school. Nor does it really look like him.
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> Does it matter?
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> It provides a delicious attack meme.
You would have thought he would just deny it.0 -
> @Casino_Royale said:
> > @Casino_Royale said:
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> > I'm not sure the Euros have really got traction with the public. I've seen none of my friends discussing it on social media and zero at work.
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> >
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> > I still think TBP is overcooked but I might be wrong about that as the dynamic is different to the 2014 euros.
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>
> Only anecdotal of course, but I had a discussion at work with a couple of colleagues in Remain Central (Cambridge) over lunch the other day about the EU elections. Of the three of them none realised that the Brexit Party was leading the polls, nor that the Conservatives were predicted to do so badly. These are all people I'd expect to be centrist-Remain types who always vote, but don't pay much attention to politics outside elections. I do wonder if there's a sense of complacency among Remainers in some parts of the country and that Farage will benefit off this significantly. I've not seen a single sign in anyone's window yet either.
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> Neither have I.
>
> One thing I'm very certain of: Farage's opponents have absolutely no clue how to handle him. Any opposition I've seen has been the usual diet of calling him a bit of a racist and screaming, "who funds you?!"
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> It's completely pathetic, but obviously makes them feel a tad better.
Farage is undoubtably a mendaceous demagogue, but as he predominantly is destroying the Conservative Party, I am fairly phlegmatic about him1 -
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Standard 3rd round X-factor dross.Sunil_Prasannan said:0 -
> @Sean_F said:
> > @bigjohnowls said:
> > ??
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> > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6vt4lmWsAIud-e.jpg:large
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> I doubt if 15 year old Nigel Farage would have dressed in such a manner, or would have been taking time out of school. Nor does it really look like him.
Was it a school day?0 -
I wouldn't call him a demagogue.Foxy said:> @Casino_Royale said:
> > @Casino_Royale said:
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> > I'm not sure the Euros have really got traction with the public. I've seen none of my friends discussing it on social media and zero at work.
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> >
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> > I still think TBP is overcooked but I might be wrong about that as the dynamic is different to the 2014 euros.
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>
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> Only anecdotal of course, but I had a discussion at work with a couple of colleagues in Remain Central (Cambridge) over lunch the other day about the EU elections. Of the three of them none realised that the Brexit Party was leading the polls, nor that the Conservatives were predicted to do so badly. These are all people I'd expect to be centrist-Remain types who always vote, but don't pay much attention to politics outside elections. I do wonder if there's a sense of complacency among Remainers in some parts of the country and that Farage will benefit off this significantly. I've not seen a single sign in anyone's window yet either.
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> Neither have I.
>
> One thing I'm very certain of: Farage's opponents have absolutely no clue how to handle him. Any opposition I've seen has been the usual diet of calling him a bit of a racist and screaming, "who funds you?!"
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> It's completely pathetic, but obviously makes them feel a tad better.
Farage is undoubtably a mendaceous demagogue, but as he predominantly is destroying the Conservative Party, I am fairly phlegmatic about him
I would call him an egotist.0 -
> @bigjohnowls said:
> > @Sean_F said:
> > > @bigjohnowls said:
> > > ??
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> > > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6vt4lmWsAIud-e.jpg:large
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> > I doubt if 15 year old Nigel Farage would have dressed in such a manner, or would have been taking time out of school. Nor does it really look like him.
>
> Was it a school day?
Whilst I know that some of you on here are cheerleaders for Nige, I'm afraid it's disingenuous to dismiss this as 'fake news.'
There's a lot more than just smoke about it and the fact he is dodging questions is 'troubling.'
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-fascist-nazi-song-gas-them-all-ukip-brexit-schoolfriend-dulwich-college-a7185236.html0 -
Iceland not going for the granny vote...0
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OMG Iceland making Lordy look like Bros on Eurovision0
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> @bigjohnowls said:
> > @Casino_Royale said:
> > > @bigjohnowls said:
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> > > ??
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> > > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6vt4lmWsAIud-e.jpg:large
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> > I doubt if 15 year old Nigel Farage would have dressed in such a manner, or would have been taking time out of school. Nor does it really look like him.
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> > Does it matter?
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> > It provides a delicious attack meme.
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> You would have thought he would just deny it.
Seems like the man highlighted was in fact the deputy chairman of the NF.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/nigel-farage-martin-webster-photo/0 -
It's a little like one of OGH's golden rules. Just as it's tempting to dismiss a poll as 'rogue' because it doesn't tell you what you want to hear, beware of dismissing stories simply because you don't want to listen.
Nigel Farage.
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Russia good, as were Norway (as you say).Casino_Royale said:
Standard 3rd round X-factor dross.Sunil_Prasannan said:
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All pols are egotists!Casino_Royale said:
I wouldn't call him a demagogue.Foxy said:> @Casino_Royale said:
> > @Casino_Royale said:
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> > I'm not sure the Euros have really got traction with the public. I've seen none of my friends discussing it on social media and zero at work.
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> >
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> > I still think TBP is overcooked but I might be wrong about that as the dynamic is different to the 2014 euros.
>
>
>
> Only anecdotal of course, but I had a discussion at work with a couple of colleagues in Remain Central (Cambridge) over lunch the other day about the EU elections. Of the three of them none realised that the Brexit Party was leading the polls, nor that the Conservatives were predicted to do so badly. These are all people I'd expect to be centrist-Remain types who always vote, but don't pay much attention to politics outside elections. I do wonder if there's a sense of complacency among Remainers in some parts of the country and that Farage will benefit off this significantly. I've not seen a single sign in anyone's window yet either.
>
> Neither have I.
>
> One thing I'm very certain of: Farage's opponents have absolutely no clue how to handle him. Any opposition I've seen has been the usual diet of calling him a bit of a racist and screaming, "who funds you?!"
>
> It's completely pathetic, but obviously makes them feel a tad better.
Farage is undoubtably a mendaceous demagogue, but as he predominantly is destroying the Conservative Party, I am fairly phlegmatic about him
I would call him an egotist.
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Iceland song/performance after the watershed thankfully .... !! ....
Mrs JackW in shock !! ....
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> @Casino_Royale said:
> > @bigjohnowls said:
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> > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6vt4lmWsAIud-e.jpg:large
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> I doubt if 15 year old Nigel Farage would have dressed in such a manner, or would have been taking time out of school. Nor does it really look like him.
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> Does it matter?
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> It provides a delicious attack meme. <
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It's bollocks. C4 factchecked it this week. Total hoax.
https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-theres-no-evidence-nigel-farage-was-in-the-national-front
Tut tut Big John "Fake News" Owls.
Farage is enough of a target without lying, His tide of migrants poster was hideous. By making shit up you turn him into a martyr, and even more of a hero. Stupid.0 -
> @Mysticrose said:
> It's a little like one of OGH's golden rules. Just as it's tempting to dismiss a poll as 'rogue' because it doesn't tell you what you want to hear, beware of dismissing stories simply because you don't want to listen.
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> Nigel Farage.
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> Hmmm ...
On the other hand, it's easy to dismiss stories that have already been shown to be false.0 -
> @bigjohnowls said:
> > @Casino_Royale said:
> > > @bigjohnowls said:
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> > > ??
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> > > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6vt4lmWsAIud-e.jpg:large
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> > I doubt if 15 year old Nigel Farage would have dressed in such a manner, or would have been taking time out of school. Nor does it really look like him.
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> > Does it matter?
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> > It provides a delicious attack meme.
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> You would have thought he would just deny it.
Streisand effect. No need to deny it until it's shown on the Six O'Clock News and the allegation is made by the MSM rather than random people on the internet.0 -
> @JackW said:
> Iceland song/performance after the watershed thankfully .... !! ....
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> Mrs JackW in shock !! ....
It was kind of a mash-up of electronica and death metal.
I quite enjoyed it.
It certainly will have obliterated any vague memory amongst the European voting public of the preceding United Kingdom entry (Total Non-Entity performing "Instantly Forgettable," for the umpteenth year running.)
The prospect of Royaume-Uni: nul points has just increased significantly.0 -
Belarus. 16?
She looks about 24.0 -
Depends if the grannies are into S&M.Foxy said:Iceland not going for the granny vote...
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> @RobD said:
> > @bigjohnowls said:
> > > @Casino_Royale said:
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> > > > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6vt4lmWsAIud-e.jpg:large
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I doubt if 15 year old Nigel Farage would have dressed in such a manner, or would have been taking time out of school. Nor does it really look like him.
> > >
> > > Does it matter?
> > >
> > > It provides a delicious attack meme.
> >
> > You would have thought he would just deny it.
>
> Seems like the man highlighted was in fact the deputy chairman of the NF.
>
> https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/nigel-farage-martin-webster-photo/
He was born in 1948 (deputy chairman of the NF), that makes him 31 at the time of that photo??
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> @bigjohnowls said:
> > @RobD said:
> > > @bigjohnowls said:
> > > > @Casino_Royale said:
> > > > > @bigjohnowls said:
> > > >
> > > > > ??
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6vt4lmWsAIud-e.jpg:large
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I doubt if 15 year old Nigel Farage would have dressed in such a manner, or would have been taking time out of school. Nor does it really look like him.
> > > >
> > > > Does it matter?
> > > >
> > > > It provides a delicious attack meme.
> > >
> > > You would have thought he would just deny it.
> >
> > Seems like the man highlighted was in fact the deputy chairman of the NF.
> >
> > https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/nigel-farage-martin-webster-photo/
>
> He was born in 1948 (deputy chairman of the NF), that makes him 31 at the time of that photo??
>
> Nige should just say its not him rather than appearing to dodge the question IMO
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Well it worked, I literally have forgotten what our one was.Black_Rook said:> @JackW said:
> Iceland song/performance after the watershed thankfully .... !! ....
>
> Mrs JackW in shock !! ....
It was kind of a mash-up of electronica and death metal.
I quite enjoyed it.
It certainly will have obliterated any vague memory amongst the European voting public of the preceding United Kingdom entry (Total Non-Entity performing "Instantly Forgettable," for the umpteenth year running.)
The prospect of Royaume-Uni: nul points has just increased significantly.0 -
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In 2017, we came 15th with 111 points, and that was the year after the Referendum. Last year, we didn't do so well...brokenwheel said:
Well it worked, I literally have forgotten what our one was.Black_Rook said:> @JackW said:
> Iceland song/performance after the watershed thankfully .... !! ....
>
> Mrs JackW in shock !! ....
It was kind of a mash-up of electronica and death metal.
I quite enjoyed it.
It certainly will have obliterated any vague memory amongst the European voting public of the preceding United Kingdom entry (Total Non-Entity performing "Instantly Forgettable," for the umpteenth year running.)
The prospect of Royaume-Uni: nul points has just increased significantly.
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> @RobD said:
> > > > > It provides a delicious attack meme.
> > > >
> > > > You would have thought he would just deny it.
> > >
> > > Seems like the man highlighted was in fact the deputy chairman of the NF.
> > >
> > > https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/nigel-farage-martin-webster-photo/
> >
> > He was born in 1948 (deputy chairman of the NF), that makes him 31 at the time of that photo??
> >
> > Nige should just say its not him rather than appearing to dodge the question IMO
>
> Why does he have to do that when the story is clearly false?
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It's worse than a lie, or a smear, it's a mistake. And massively counter-productive.
Farage's whole shtick in this campaign is that the Establishment is out to sabotage Brexit, and British democracy, and *they* will stop at nothing to get their way - from lying to cheating to bullying and so on.
So in response to this pitch.... thousands of Remainers retweet a blatantly obvious lie, in an attempt to smear Farage, hoping to sabotage Brexit.
A four year old could see the logical problem here. I despair of my fellow Remain voters. Too many are morons.0 -
> @bigjohnowls said:
> This is Richard Verall a year after
>
> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6ektyCWwAAWIaY.png
Let's have another fact checker weigh in:
https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-theres-no-evidence-nigel-farage-was-in-the-national-front
And it looks like he has denied it:
<i>When contacted by FactCheck, an aide to Mr Farage strenuously denied it was him in the photo – and all the evidence we have seen suggests that it is not him.</i>0 -
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> @brokenwheel said:
> > @JackW said:
>
> > Iceland song/performance after the watershed thankfully .... !! ....
> >
> > Mrs JackW in shock !! ....
>
> It was kind of a mash-up of electronica and death metal.
>
> I quite enjoyed it.
>
> It certainly will have obliterated any vague memory amongst the European voting public of the preceding United Kingdom entry (Total Non-Entity performing "Instantly Forgettable," for the umpteenth year running.)
>
> The prospect of Royaume-Uni: nul points has just increased significantly.
>
> Well it worked, I literally have forgotten what our one was.
I reckon that the BBC deliberately present a selection of instantly forgettable dross to be voted on by the public every year, so that they never have to pay to host it again. Combine a nobbled field with the fact that the average age of a BBC1 viewer is 61 anyway, and it's a recipe for guaranteed failure.0 -
I am far from convinced that a good vote share by BP - or indeed the LDs - on a pretty derisory turnout amounts to a great deal. If people really are steamed up about Brexit , why will only circa 35% bother to vote? The fact that over 60% are likely to stay at home rather contradicts the idea that the electorate is desperate to convey a message related to this issue.Probably little more than 11% of the electorate will express support for Farage's party next week - and a fair chunk of that will be based on an Anti-Establishment protest vote rather than the EU per se.0
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> @RobD said:
> > @bigjohnowls said:
> > > @RobD said:
> > > > @bigjohnowls said:
> > > > > @Casino_Royale said:
> > > > > > @bigjohnowls said:
> > > > >
> > > > > > ??
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6vt4lmWsAIud-e.jpg:large
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I doubt if 15 year old Nigel Farage would have dressed in such a manner, or would have been taking time out of school. Nor does it really look like him.
> > > > >
> > > > > Does it matter?
> > > > >
> > > > > It provides a delicious attack meme.
> > > >
> > > > You would have thought he would just deny it.
> > >
> > > Seems like the man highlighted was in fact the deputy chairman of the NF.
> > >
> > > https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/nigel-farage-martin-webster-photo/
> >
> > He was born in 1948 (deputy chairman of the NF), that makes him 31 at the time of that photo??
> >
> > Nige should just say its not him rather than appearing to dodge the question IMO
>
> Why does he have to do that when the story is clearly false?
Its clearly false is it.
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I am fed up with people who say BRINO or BINO to talk about very soft forms of brexit. Anyone who is anyone is now calling it MEH-XIT.
Anyway, I don't know if the market is still open but BetFred were letting you punt on top 10 finishes for Eurovision. I'm on Denmark, Switzerland, and Australia and on Netherlands to win0 -
> @bigjohnowls said:
> Its clearly false is it.
>
> Yet Corbyn was a spy even after everybody proved he wasnt
>
>
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> @Scott_P said:
> https://twitter.com/MoS_Politics/status/1129850935319191552
Who is the swinging Labour MP in the picture?0 -
Labour : enemies of Britain. Now, then, always.Scott_P said:0 -
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> @Scott_P said:
> https://twitter.com/MoS_Politics/status/1129850935319191552
Surely he'd be tried if it were true? For a sitting MP to be found guilty of espionage/treason...
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Another poll.
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> @TGOHF said:
> https://twitter.com/MoS_Politics/status/1129850935319191552
>
>
>
> Labour : enemies of Britain. Now, then, always.
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> @Black_Rook said:
> > @brokenwheel said:
> > > @JackW said:
> >
> > > Iceland song/performance after the watershed thankfully .... !! ....
> > >
> > > Mrs JackW in shock !! ....
> >
> > It was kind of a mash-up of electronica and death metal.
> >
> > I quite enjoyed it.
> >
> > It certainly will have obliterated any vague memory amongst the European voting public of the preceding United Kingdom entry (Total Non-Entity performing "Instantly Forgettable," for the umpteenth year running.)
> >
> > The prospect of Royaume-Uni: nul points has just increased significantly.
> >
> > Well it worked, I literally have forgotten what our one was.
>
> I reckon that the BBC deliberately present a selection of instantly forgettable dross to be voted on by the public every year, so that they never have to pay to host it again. Combine a nobbled field with the fact that the average age of a BBC1 viewer is 61 anyway, and it's a recipe for guaranteed failure.
I suspect that the average of a Eurovision fan is rather younger.
Our song was forgettable Saturday talent show pap. We are not even trying anymore.0 -
Seen enough Eurovision
And now we know what a 15 yr old Nige looks like!!
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> @Mauve said:
> > @thecommissioner said:
> > https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/1129828517548560385
>
> Putting those numbers into EC gives:
> CON 163
> LAB 298
> LIB 22
> UKIP 0
> Green 0
> SNP 55
> PlaidC 4
> ChUK 0
> Brexit 90
> Minor 0
> N.Ire 18
>
> Farage lets in a Corbyn / Sturgeon government. Tories down to numbers not seen since 1997. If those numbers were anywhere near accurate (debatable given the current situation) you can't fault his strategy of pretending to be in favour of both Leave and Remain.
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> @justin124 said:
> I am far from convinced that a good vote share by BP - or indeed the LDs - on a pretty derisory turnout amounts to a great deal. If people really are steamed up about Brexit , why will only circa 35% bother to vote? The fact that over 60% are likely to stay at home rather contradicts the idea that the electorate is desperate to convey a message related to this issue.Probably little more than 11% of the electorate will express support for Farage's party next week - and a fair chunk of that will be based on an Anti-Establishment protest vote rather than the EU per se.
That will certainly be what everyone says after Farage wins.
They're not saying it now.0 -
> @RobD said:
> > @bigjohnowls said:
> > This is Richard Verall a year after
> >
> > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6ektyCWwAAWIaY.png
>
> Let's have another fact checker weigh in:
>
> https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-theres-no-evidence-nigel-farage-was-in-the-national-front
>
> And it looks like he has denied it:
>
> <i>When contacted by FactCheck, an aide to Mr Farage strenuously denied it was him in the photo – and all the evidence we have seen suggests that it is not him.</i>
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Anyone with a functional nervous system can see it is not him. Look at the curve of the eyebrows, the nose, the set of the jaw (things that don't change over time). It's simply not him. Much as people may wish otherwise.
Ironically, Farage himself has form for using doctored images:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jul/17/nigel-farage-fake-news-migrants-twitter
Attack him for THAT, not this gibberish.0 -
It's not him!@bigjohnowls said:Seen enough Eurovision
And now we know what a 15 yr old Nige looks like!!
Im off to bed
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Now this person has been identified, are you going to admit the meme is 'fakenews'?Mysticrose said:> @bigjohnowls said:
> > @Sean_F said:
> > > @bigjohnowls said:
> > > ??
> > >
> > > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6vt4lmWsAIud-e.jpg:large
> >
> > I doubt if 15 year old Nigel Farage would have dressed in such a manner, or would have been taking time out of school. Nor does it really look like him.
>
> Was it a school day?
Whilst I know that some of you on here are cheerleaders for Nige, I'm afraid it's disingenuous to dismiss this as 'fake news.'
There's a lot more than just smoke about it and the fact he is dodging questions is 'troubling.'
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-fascist-nazi-song-gas-them-all-ukip-brexit-schoolfriend-dulwich-college-a7185236.html0 -
> @Casino_Royale said:
> > @TGOHF said:
> > https://twitter.com/MoS_Politics/status/1129850935319191552
> >
> >
> >
> > Labour : enemies of Britain. Now, then, always.
>
> Nothing changes.
Yeah Right
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In 2017, we came 15th with 111 points, and that was the year after the Referendum. Last year, we didn't do so well...Foxy said:> @Black_Rook said:
> > @brokenwheel said:
> > > @JackW said:
> >
> > > Iceland song/performance after the watershed thankfully .... !! ....
> > >
> > > Mrs JackW in shock !! ....
> >
> > It was kind of a mash-up of electronica and death metal.
> >
> > I quite enjoyed it.
> >
> > It certainly will have obliterated any vague memory amongst the European voting public of the preceding United Kingdom entry (Total Non-Entity performing "Instantly Forgettable," for the umpteenth year running.)
> >
> > The prospect of Royaume-Uni: nul points has just increased significantly.
> >
> > Well it worked, I literally have forgotten what our one was.
>
> I reckon that the BBC deliberately present a selection of instantly forgettable dross to be voted on by the public every year, so that they never have to pay to host it again. Combine a nobbled field with the fact that the average age of a BBC1 viewer is 61 anyway, and it's a recipe for guaranteed failure.
I suspect that the average of a Eurovision fan is rather younger.
Our song was forgettable Saturday talent show pap. We are not even trying anymore.
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> @Casino_Royale said:
> > @TGOHF said:
> > https://twitter.com/MoS_Politics/status/1129850935319191552
> >
> >
> >
> > Labour : enemies of Britain. Now, then, always.
>
> Nothing changes.
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> @GIN1138 said:
> > @Recidivist said:
> > Another poll.
>
> Go Nigel (again) !!!!!!!
> @Casino_Royale said:
> > @justin124 said:
> > I am far from convinced that a good vote share by BP - or indeed the LDs - on a pretty derisory turnout amounts to a great deal. If people really are steamed up about Brexit , why will only circa 35% bother to vote? The fact that over 60% are likely to stay at home rather contradicts the idea that the electorate is desperate to convey a message related to this issue.Probably little more than 11% of the electorate will express support for Farage's party next week - and a fair chunk of that will be based on an Anti-Establishment protest vote rather than the EU per se.
>
> That will certainly be what everyone says after Farage wins.
>
> They're not saying it now.
But some of us are saying it now!0 -
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Vote for the very tall Poles (Australia))0
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Australia channeling Kate Bush?0
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Hope the Aussies win and the whole shebang moves to the antipodes next year.0
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Decent Kate Bush tribute from the Aussie
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> @Scott_P said:
> https://twitter.com/Andrew_ComRes/status/1129854223464767489
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> @justin124 said:
> > @GIN1138 said:
> > > @Recidivist said:
> > > Another poll.
> >
> > Go Nigel (again) !!!!!!!
> > @Casino_Royale said:
> > > @justin124 said:
> > > I am far from convinced that a good vote share by BP - or indeed the LDs - on a pretty derisory turnout amounts to a great deal. If people really are steamed up about Brexit , why will only circa 35% bother to vote? The fact that over 60% are likely to stay at home rather contradicts the idea that the electorate is desperate to convey a message related to this issue.Probably little more than 11% of the electorate will express support for Farage's party next week - and a fair chunk of that will be based on an Anti-Establishment protest vote rather than the EU per se.
> >
> > That will certainly be what everyone says after Farage wins.
> >
> > They're not saying it now.
>
> But some of us are saying it now!
You are but if the tables were turned any party would love the platform of winning the Euros for their own purposes.0 -
Theres nothing holding them down!!0
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> @bigjohnowls said:
> > @GIN1138 said:
> > > @JackW said:
> > > Iceland song/performance after the watershed thankfully .... !! ....
> > >
> > > Mrs JackW in shock !! ....
> >
> > The image behind Iceland looked a bit like an outline of Jezza I thought...
>
> Anyone know how to vote Iceland!!!
Wardruna meets BDSM0 -
"If windscreen wipers could sing" 0
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Norton just said the contest will stay in Europe even if they wingeoffw said:Hope the Aussies win and the whole shebang moves to the antipodes next year.
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