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https://twitter.com/alexvtunzelmann/status/1120643969124306944?s=21Theuniondivvie said:Fwiw the Corbynistas I follow on twitter are getting RSI from tweeting derogatory stuff about ChUK, nada about Nigel and his merry men (& women).
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How many of those letters have you sent in your career, Nick?NickPalmer said:
Oh, and more relevantly to here, I hate those political letters that are mock-personalised. "Nick, it's really important to vote next Thursday. We know you want to stop the Tories, Nick, and this is your chance to do it." Do they think we're idiots that we don't know about mail merge?NickPalmer said:
It's a subtle balance, isn't it? I really like Eritrean food and I'd be quite pleased to get a text saying "You are just 500 metres from an Eritrean restaurant at High Road 43." Similarly I don't mind getting a moderate amount of spam on computer games as I'm interested in what's coming out. But personalising is intrusive in a very American way, like the staff in restaurants who say ,"Hi, I'm Cindy, and I'm gonna make sure you have a great time today!" It's the false chumminess that I react against, not the relevant information.0 -
So this EU election will, among thee things, be a Battle Of The Sisters with JRMs sister on the LEAVE side and Boris's sister for REMAIN!0
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Sorry, came late to the conversation and actually thought the Fox who joined brexit today was actually Sam, no idea why.0
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Will the EU election have leaders debates?
Jezza Vs Chuka Vs Farage would be fun (Theresa hiding behind the sofa as usual)0 -
Lincolnshire hard working mother and wife of an Iraq veteran - vs Notting Hill member of the luvvie establishment? Its all in the branding!GIN1138 said:So this EU election will, among thee things, be a Battle Of The Sisters with JRMs sister on the LEAVE side and Boris's sister for REMAIN!
No contest surely?0 -
Should be one-on-one between Jezza and Farage, as the top two parties in the polling. And a debate between the two of them would be in both men's interests I think.GIN1138 said:Will the EU election have leaders debates?
Jezza Vs Chuka Vs Farage would be fun...0 -
There's no career to be had in the LibDems....brendan16 said:
She joined the Lib Dems just before the 2017 GE and Tim Farron expressed support for her to become their London Mayoral candidate in 2020. Siobhan Benita got there ahead of her.kle4 said:
Didn't she try to stand for the LDs once?Scott_P said:
Why she hasn't stuck with the LDs is odd - as she has more chance of becoming an MEP on their list.
Of course it will be interesting where all these people are placed on the ChuK list (and also for the other parties) - how many of these 'celebs' are in effect paper candidates (i.e. not top of the list in their region so unlikely to get elected) and are just there for the 5 week campaign/ego trip and how many actually want to be an MEP for 5 years?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/rachel-johnson-liberal-democrats-mayor-2020-boris-johnson-brexit-a7710601.html0 -
I wonder if theres a market on which of the Tigger founders will be first to leave the group.0
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The UK's rival Prime Ministers in waiting.Danny565 said:
Should be one-on-one between Jezza and Farage, as the top two parties in the polling. And a debate between the two of them would be in both men's interests I think.GIN1138 said:Will the EU election have leaders debates?
Jezza Vs Chuka Vs Farage would be fun...0 -
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Go on George, you know you want to - join CUK......Scott_P said:0 -
Thats not remarkable at all, people outside the top two always do that .Scott_P said:0 -
I dare say they will win more MEPs than ChuK as they have a base and infrastructure - if you can top their list in several regions (e.g. London, south east, NW, Scotland and south west) you will probably get elected this time.MarqueeMark said:
There's no career to be had in the LibDems....brendan16 said:
She joined the Lib Dems just before the 2017 GE and Tim Farron expressed support for her to become their London Mayoral candidate in 2020. Siobhan Benita got there ahead of her.kle4 said:
Didn't she try to stand for the LDs once?Scott_P said:
Why she hasn't stuck with the LDs is odd - as she has more chance of becoming an MEP on their list.
Of course it will be interesting where all these people are placed on the ChuK list (and also for the other parties) - how many of these 'celebs' are in effect paper candidates (i.e. not top of the list in their region so unlikely to get elected) and are just there for the 5 week campaign/ego trip and how many actually want to be an MEP for 5 years?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/rachel-johnson-liberal-democrats-mayor-2020-boris-johnson-brexit-a7710601.html0 -
Latest on the Greens' willingness to ally with the Tiggers:
The Green party has dismissed Change UK as “a single-issue party with no coherent policy platform beyond opposing Brexit”. This is from Molly Scott Cato, who is standing for re-election as a Green MEP in the South West.
"Change UK are a single-issue party with no coherent policy platform beyond opposing Brexit. This is a re-branding exercise for former Conservative and Labour politicians who presided over cuts to public services and the relentless growth in inequality. And we have no idea which group in the European parliament any elected MEPs would join.
Greens on the other hand are the most electorally successful pro-EU party standing in this election and Green votes are more likely to send pro-EU MEPs to Brussels than votes for any other party. We are standing candidates in all 28 EU nations and polls suggest Greens will increase their number of MEPs."
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2019/apr/23/brexit-latest-news-developments-theresa-may-chairs-cabinet-as-mps-return-to-commons-and-brexit-deadlock-continues-live-news0 -
It’s really quite simple. Brexit Party style National Conservatives aren’t fond of globalists and liberals. The Hard Left is not fond of the economic right. But Labour right now is more reliant on their voters than the Brexit Party coalition.williamglenn said:
https://twitter.com/alexvtunzelmann/status/1120643969124306944?s=21Theuniondivvie said:Fwiw the Corbynistas I follow on twitter are getting RSI from tweeting derogatory stuff about ChUK, nada about Nigel and his merry men (& women).
The biggest threat to the current Labour coalition is the liberal economic-right remainers being hived off. National Conservatives are viewed as less of an existential issue.
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CUKLD definitely sounds like a new dating app for threesomes.Stereotomy said:
Would we have called them CUKLD or CHUKLD?Sean_F said:
Change UK and the Lib Dems should have been working on joint candidates as soon as the split occurred.Fenman said:
No, but you are the acknowledged market leadersSean_F said:
It's good to see that incompetence and division are not restricted to my own side.El_Capitano said:https://twitter.com/LaylaMoran/status/1120597390094999553/photo/1
I suspect pride is going to come before a fall for TIG.0 -
I suspect George is more than content being a Churchill figure - on the fringes of Westminster politics for many years before returning later in life to save the nation in its hour of direst peril.MarqueeMark said:
Go on George, you know you want to - join CUK......Scott_P said:0 -
Difference is Brexit Party offers genuine change where-as Change UK is the ultimate status quo offer. A Party created by the elite for the elite....Scott_P said:0 -
TBH, I'm surprised he hasn't.MarqueeMark said:
Go on George, you know you want to - join CUK......Scott_P said:0 -
Satire?Stark_Dawning said:
I suspect George is more than content being a Churchill figure - on the fringes of Westminster politics for many years before returning later in life to save the nation in its hour of direst peril.MarqueeMark said:
Go on George, you know you want to - join CUK......Scott_P said:0 -
It was not that long ago that the Green Party of England and Wales was anti-EU.Danny565 said:Latest on the Greens' willingness to ally with the Tiggers:
The Green party has dismissed Change UK as “a single-issue party with no coherent policy platform beyond opposing Brexit”. This is from Molly Scott Cato, who is standing for re-election as a Green MEP in the South West.
"Change UK are a single-issue party with no coherent policy platform beyond opposing Brexit. This is a re-branding exercise for former Conservative and Labour politicians who presided over cuts to public services and the relentless growth in inequality. And we have no idea which group in the European parliament any elected MEPs would join.
Greens on the other hand are the most electorally successful pro-EU party standing in this election and Green votes are more likely to send pro-EU MEPs to Brussels than votes for any other party. We are standing candidates in all 28 EU nations and polls suggest Greens will increase their number of MEPs."
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2019/apr/23/brexit-latest-news-developments-theresa-may-chairs-cabinet-as-mps-return-to-commons-and-brexit-deadlock-continues-live-news0 -
Surely, given the attitude of a lot of diehard Remainers towards the Leave vote (Gammon, thick, racist, uneducated, poor, old), there is a target market an overtly snobbish and elitist party? People who love talking about how much they're worth and how morally superior they are would love itGIN1138 said:
Difference is Brexit Party offers genuine change where-as Change UK is the ultimate status quo offer. A Party created by the elite for the elite....Scott_P said:0 -
Mind you, it also wasn't that long ago that Clegg was the only mainstream party leader calling for a referendum on whether to leave the EU (on the basis that it would "lance the boil" and mean that we'd stop talking about Europe).TheWhiteRabbit said:
It was not that long ago that the Green Party of England and Wales was anti-EU.Danny565 said:Latest on the Greens' willingness to ally with the Tiggers:
The Green party has dismissed Change UK as “a single-issue party with no coherent policy platform beyond opposing Brexit”. This is from Molly Scott Cato, who is standing for re-election as a Green MEP in the South West.
"Change UK are a single-issue party with no coherent policy platform beyond opposing Brexit. This is a re-branding exercise for former Conservative and Labour politicians who presided over cuts to public services and the relentless growth in inequality. And we have no idea which group in the European parliament any elected MEPs would join.
Greens on the other hand are the most electorally successful pro-EU party standing in this election and Green votes are more likely to send pro-EU MEPs to Brussels than votes for any other party. We are standing candidates in all 28 EU nations and polls suggest Greens will increase their number of MEPs."
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2019/apr/23/brexit-latest-news-developments-theresa-may-chairs-cabinet-as-mps-return-to-commons-and-brexit-deadlock-continues-live-news0 -
For anyone wanting to play about with vote shares on a national/regional level for EURO 2019 and the resulting seat allocation, here is the tool you've been waiting for (NB - could be seriously addictive for political nerds).
https://icon.cat/util/elections0 -
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Yes I'm sure there is a market for a Rogerdarmus Party!isam said:
Surely, given the attitude of a lot of diehard Remainers towards the Leave vote (Gammon, thick, racist, uneducated, poor, old), there is a target market an overtly snobbish and elitist party? People who love talking about how much they're worth and how morally superior they are would love itGIN1138 said:
Difference is Brexit Party offers genuine change where-as Change UK is the ultimate status quo offer. A Party created by the elite for the elite....Scott_P said:0 -
That's one fellow former pupil I won't be voting for.rottenborough said:0 -
I suspect the hamburger menu logo started life as a Tigger, before having every hint of personality removed from it.glw said:
Their website has a hamburger menu on the right, and their confusingly similar logo on the left. A UX mistake in my book.El_Capitano said:
It looks like the hamburger menu present in every single mobile app. The one where UX research proves hardly anyone knows what it's meant to do.williamglenn said:0 -
Trouble is there’s a significant overlap in that respect with Labour and the Lib Dems.isam said:
Surely, given the attitude of a lot of diehard Remainers towards the Leave vote (Gammon, thick, racist, uneducated, poor, old), there is a target market an overtly snobbish and elitist party? People who love talking about how much they're worth and how morally superior they are would love itGIN1138 said:
Difference is Brexit Party offers genuine change where-as Change UK is the ultimate status quo offer. A Party created by the elite for the elite....Scott_P said:0 -
Should be an interesting by election... First Lib-Dem GAIN for a few years?anothernick said:Chris Davies gets fine & community punishment
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You should try reversing that to see the attitude diehard leavers have towards remainers.isam said:
Surely, given the attitude of a lot of diehard Remainers towards the Leave vote (Gammon, thick, racist, uneducated, poor, old), there is a target market an overtly snobbish and elitist party? People who love talking about how much they're worth and how morally superior they are would love itGIN1138 said:
Difference is Brexit Party offers genuine change where-as Change UK is the ultimate status quo offer. A Party created by the elite for the elite....Scott_P said:
They say the same sorts of things ...0 -
Rocket Ronnie falls at the first fence0
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"Some people are calling it Donald-Day..."Scott_P said:0 -
That’s going to be another recall petition, as it’s expenses-related.anothernick said:Chris Davies gets fine & community punishment
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you have to hand it to Cahill he kept his nerve the whole way throughisam said:Rocket Ronnie falls at the first fence
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I only saw the last frame, but that was a great clearance to win it. To get on the last red was a brilliant shot.Alanbrooke said:
you have to hand it to Cahill he kept his nerve the whole way throughisam said:Rocket Ronnie falls at the first fence
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Could almost be timed as a distraction for the media and MPs after the EU elections?Scott_P said:0 -
I see world No 1 Ronnie O Sullivan has just been knocked out in round 1 of the World Snooker championships - by the first ever amateur to make the main draw at the Crucible. Quite a major shock.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/snooker/473109510 -
Genuine change from 7 times failed candidate Nigel Fucking Farage...GIN1138 said:Difference is Brexit Party offers genuine change
These guys offered to "Take Back Control"
What the fuck happened to that?
https://twitter.com/brianspanner1/status/7464883165104824330 -
Well at least the recall process can start now.anothernick said:Chris Davies gets fine & community punishment
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-480228000 -
Yes, but the Leave parties say what their supporters think. Chuka used to, but I doubt he will now.JosiasJessop said:
You should try reversing that to see the attitude diehard leavers have towards remainers.isam said:
Surely, given the attitude of a lot of diehard Remainers towards the Leave vote (Gammon, thick, racist, uneducated, poor, old), there is a target market an overtly snobbish and elitist party? People who love talking about how much they're worth and how morally superior they are would love itGIN1138 said:
Difference is Brexit Party offers genuine change where-as Change UK is the ultimate status quo offer. A Party created by the elite for the elite....Scott_P said:
They say the same sorts of things ...0 -
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That's still as funny as the first time you posted it!Scott_P said:
Genuine change from 7 times failed candidate Nigel Fucking Farage...GIN1138 said:Difference is Brexit Party offers genuine change
These guys offered to "Take Back Control"
What the fuck happened to that?
https://twitter.com/brianspanner1/status/7464883165104824330 -
Scott_P said:
Genuine change from 7 times failed candidate Nigel Fucking Farage...GIN1138 said:Difference is Brexit Party offers genuine change
These guys offered to "Take Back Control"
What the fuck happened to that?
https://twitter.com/brianspanner1/status/746488316510482433
What's with all the F-Bombs from you these days?
You come across as very undignified just lately...0 -
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50/1 on shot fails. Crucible does strange things to folk. Some go to pieces, as my tip did. Others play the game of their lives, against an admittedly out of sorts Ronnie.brendan16 said:I see world No 1 Ronnie O Sullivan has just been knocked out in round 1 of the World Snooker championships - by the first ever amateur to make the main draw at the Crucible. Quite a major shock.
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None, so far as I can remember. I was always averse to using precooked letters from HQ.Charles said:
How many of those letters have you sent in your career, Nick?NickPalmer said:
Oh, and more relevantly to here, I hate those political letters that are mock-personalised. "Nick, it's really important to vote next Thursday. We know you want to stop the Tories, Nick, and this is your chance to do it." Do they think we're idiots that we don't know about mail merge?NickPalmer said:
It's a subtle balance, isn't it? I really like Eritrean food and I'd be quite pleased to get a text saying "You are just 500 metres from an Eritrean restaurant at High Road 43." Similarly I don't mind getting a moderate amount of spam on computer games as I'm interested in what's coming out. But personalising is intrusive in a very American way, like the staff in restaurants who say ,"Hi, I'm Cindy, and I'm gonna make sure you have a great time today!" It's the false chumminess that I react against, not the relevant information.0 -
An outside chance Trump had relatives fighting on the German side.williamglenn said:
"Some people are calling it Donald-Day..."Scott_P said:
A wonderful opportunity to heal the wounds of history by laying wreaths for the dead of both sides, let's just hope any Trump dead aren't in the SS section of the cemetery.0 -
Her analysis of the JAMs before they were called JAMs is excellent.Danny565 said:She's so good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akVL7QY0S8A0 -
I think you are slightly biased when you say that.isam said:
Yes, but the Leave parties say what their supporters think. Chuka used to, but I doubt he will now.JosiasJessop said:
You should try reversing that to see the attitude diehard leavers have towards remainers.isam said:
Surely, given the attitude of a lot of diehard Remainers towards the Leave vote (Gammon, thick, racist, uneducated, poor, old), there is a target market an overtly snobbish and elitist party? People who love talking about how much they're worth and how morally superior they are would love itGIN1138 said:
Difference is Brexit Party offers genuine change where-as Change UK is the ultimate status quo offer. A Party created by the elite for the elite....Scott_P said:
They say the same sorts of things ...0 -
I am really struggling to understand the new political fascination with ex-mil types. As if it qualifies you for anything but supplying a rich vein of stories that start, "So there I was..."williamglenn said:
https://twitter.com/alexvtunzelmann/status/1120643969124306944?s=21Theuniondivvie said:Fwiw the Corbynistas I follow on twitter are getting RSI from tweeting derogatory stuff about ChUK, nada about Nigel and his merry men (& women).
That ex-bootie has bound to have wanked a dog off or similar RM jape at some point...0 -
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The no-change party hace come along at completely the wrong time. While i personally dont think their apparently general philosophy is wrong, that isnt isnt the public want. They want change hence corbyn, trump, brexit and as technology starts to eat up more middle.class jobs that will only spread until somebody proposes sensible change.0
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To be fair, Lammy calls us Nazi's, Cameron Racists etc so maybe they do reflect their supporters, I take it back.JosiasJessop said:
I think you are slightly biased when you say that.isam said:
Yes, but the Leave parties say what their supporters think. Chuka used to, but I doubt he will now.JosiasJessop said:
You should try reversing that to see the attitude diehard leavers have towards remainers.isam said:
Surely, given the attitude of a lot of diehard Remainers towards the Leave vote (Gammon, thick, racist, uneducated, poor, old), there is a target market an overtly snobbish and elitist party? People who love talking about how much they're worth and how morally superior they are would love itGIN1138 said:
Difference is Brexit Party offers genuine change where-as Change UK is the ultimate status quo offer. A Party created by the elite for the elite....Scott_P said:
They say the same sorts of things ...
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Presumably thats a wealth tax. Which would lead to people having capital flowing out of the US.Danny565 said:She's so good:
https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1120498568622739459
Wealth Taxes are impossible unless you have capital controls.0 -
Her polling doesnt suggest people agree with you.Danny565 said:She's so good:
/twitter.com/ewarren/status/11204985686227394590 -
Your knowledge of service life provides a unique enrichment to PB threads.Dura_Ace said:
I am really struggling to understand the new political fascination with ex-mil types. As if it qualifies you for anything but supplying a rich vein of stories that start, "So there I was..."williamglenn said:
https://twitter.com/alexvtunzelmann/status/1120643969124306944?s=21Theuniondivvie said:Fwiw the Corbynistas I follow on twitter are getting RSI from tweeting derogatory stuff about ChUK, nada about Nigel and his merry men (& women).
That ex-bootie has bound to have wanked a dog off or similar RM jape at some point...0 -
No, I see it the other way: it's ridiculous to say that any party (of any size) says what their supporters think. For one thing parties are disparate bodies, often saying differing things to differing constituencies; the other is that the constituencies who vote for them can be radically different.isam said:
To be fair, Lammy calls us Nazi's, Cameron Racists etc so maybe they do reflect their supporters, I take it back.JosiasJessop said:
I think you are slightly biased when you say that.isam said:
Yes, but the Leave parties say what their supporters think. Chuka used to, but I doubt he will now.JosiasJessop said:
You should try reversing that to see the attitude diehard leavers have towards remainers.isam said:
Surely, given the attitude of a lot of diehard Remainers towards the Leave vote (Gammon, thick, racist, uneducated, poor, old), there is a target market an overtly snobbish and elitist party? People who love talking about how much they're worth and how morally superior they are would love itGIN1138 said:
Difference is Brexit Party offers genuine change where-as Change UK is the ultimate status quo offer. A Party created by the elite for the elite....Scott_P said:
They say the same sorts of things ...
It's also a rather dangerous road to go down.0 -
Heres more detail (from a pro wealth tax resource)Slackbladder said:
Presumably thats a wealth tax. Which would lead to people having capital flowing out of the US.Danny565 said:She's so good:
https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1120498568622739459
Wealth Taxes are impossible unless you have capital controls.
https://www.vox.com/videos/2019/3/5/18249732/wealth-tax-better-way-rich0 -
ooh!JosiasJessop said:
No, I see it the other way: it's ridiculous to say that any party (of any size) says what their supporters think. For one thing parties are disparate bodies, often saying differing things to differing constituencies; the other is that the constituencies who vote for them can be radically different.isam said:
To be fair, Lammy calls us Nazi's, Cameron Racists etc so maybe they do reflect their supporters, I take it back.JosiasJessop said:
I think you are slightly biased when you say that.isam said:
Yes, but the Leave parties say what their supporters think. Chuka used to, but I doubt he will now.JosiasJessop said:
You should try reversing that to see the attitude diehard leavers have towards remainers.isam said:
Surely, given the attitude of a lot of diehard Remainers towards the Leave vote (Gammon, thick, racist, uneducated, poor, old), there is a target market an overtly snobbish and elitist party? People who love talking about how much they're worth and how morally superior they are would love itGIN1138 said:
Difference is Brexit Party offers genuine change where-as Change UK is the ultimate status quo offer. A Party created by the elite for the elite....Scott_P said:
They say the same sorts of things ...
It's also a rather dangerous road to go down.0 -
I am guessing that people think that as these people were willing to put their lives on the line for their country their moral compass and motivation for public office goes beyond simply what is it in for them.Dura_Ace said:
I am really struggling to understand the new political fascination with ex-mil types. As if it qualifies you for anything but supplying a rich vein of stories that start, "So there I was..."williamglenn said:
https://twitter.com/alexvtunzelmann/status/1120643969124306944?s=21Theuniondivvie said:Fwiw the Corbynistas I follow on twitter are getting RSI from tweeting derogatory stuff about ChUK, nada about Nigel and his merry men (& women).
That ex-bootie has bound to have wanked a dog off or similar RM jape at some point...0 -
As opposed to Cameron sticking a pig’s head...Dura_Ace said:
I am really struggling to understand the new political fascination with ex-mil types. As if it qualifies you for anything but supplying a rich vein of stories that start, "So there I was..."williamglenn said:
https://twitter.com/alexvtunzelmann/status/1120643969124306944?s=21Theuniondivvie said:Fwiw the Corbynistas I follow on twitter are getting RSI from tweeting derogatory stuff about ChUK, nada about Nigel and his merry men (& women).
That ex-bootie has bound to have wanked a dog off or similar RM jape at some point...0 -
This gets more headlines and less risk of winning than the LDsbrendan16 said:
She joined the Lib Dems just before the 2017 GE and Tim Farron expressed support for her to become their London Mayoral candidate in 2020. Siobhan Benita got there ahead of her.kle4 said:
Didn't she try to stand for the LDs once?Scott_P said:
Why she hasn't stuck with the LDs is odd - as she has more chance of becoming an MEP on their list.
Of course it will be interesting where all these people are placed on the ChuK list (and also for the other parties) - how many of these 'celebs' are in effect paper candidates (i.e. not top of the list in their region so unlikely to get elected) and are just there for the 5 week campaign/ego trip and how many actually want to be an MEP for 5 years?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/rachel-johnson-liberal-democrats-mayor-2020-boris-johnson-brexit-a7710601.html0 -
Not if you levy on their land and property. Difficult to move that offshore.Slackbladder said:
Presumably thats a wealth tax. Which would lead to people having capital flowing out of the US.Danny565 said:She's so good:
https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1120498568622739459
Wealth Taxes are impossible unless you have capital controls.0 -
Alternatively political apparatchiks hope voters will think as these people were willing to put their lives on the line for their country their moral compass and motivation for public office goes beyond simply what is it in for them.FrancisUrquhart said:
I am guessing that people think that as these people were willing to put their lives on the line for their country their moral compass and motivation for public office goes beyond simply what is it in for them.Dura_Ace said:
I am really struggling to understand the new political fascination with ex-mil types. As if it qualifies you for anything but supplying a rich vein of stories that start, "So there I was..."williamglenn said:
https://twitter.com/alexvtunzelmann/status/1120643969124306944?s=21Theuniondivvie said:Fwiw the Corbynistas I follow on twitter are getting RSI from tweeting derogatory stuff about ChUK, nada about Nigel and his merry men (& women).
That ex-bootie has bound to have wanked a dog off or similar RM jape at some point...0 -
The US already taxes the world-wide income of its citizens no matter where they reside. The IRS is very good at ferreting out overseas bank accounts and other assets. The biggest collateral damage from a wealth tax is likely to be ex-pat Americans as it would probably end up with FATCA on steroids with no overseas bank wanting to touch Americans, even those resident locally, with a bargepole.Slackbladder said:
Presumably thats a wealth tax. Which would lead to people having capital flowing out of the US.Danny565 said:She's so good:
https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1120498568622739459
Wealth Taxes are impossible unless you have capital controls.0 -
Lewis at 10/1 seems like good value at this point, he’s in pole position to take a sixth title this year.Scott_P said:Shadsy on the case...
https://twitter.com/LadPolitics/status/1120655309293391872
Raheem Sterling’s price will go out if MU beat MC on Wednesday night, cheered on by millions of his old club’s fans.0 -
I don’t think anyone can argue with that!SandyRentool said:
Your knowledge of service life provides a unique enrichment to PB threads.Dura_Ace said:
I am really struggling to understand the new political fascination with ex-mil types. As if it qualifies you for anything but supplying a rich vein of stories that start, "So there I was..."williamglenn said:
https://twitter.com/alexvtunzelmann/status/1120643969124306944?s=21Theuniondivvie said:Fwiw the Corbynistas I follow on twitter are getting RSI from tweeting derogatory stuff about ChUK, nada about Nigel and his merry men (& women).
That ex-bootie has bound to have wanked a dog off or similar RM jape at some point...0 -
Isabel Oakeshott described it as “a real coup”. Hopefully not that real...Dura_Ace said:
I am really struggling to understand the new political fascination with ex-mil types. As if it qualifies you for anything but supplying a rich vein of stories that start, "So there I was..."williamglenn said:
https://twitter.com/alexvtunzelmann/status/1120643969124306944?s=21Theuniondivvie said:Fwiw the Corbynistas I follow on twitter are getting RSI from tweeting derogatory stuff about ChUK, nada about Nigel and his merry men (& women).
That ex-bootie has bound to have wanked a dog off or similar RM jape at some point...0 -
Have i missed why dina asher-smith is such a short price?Sandpit said:
Lewis at 10/1 seems like good value at this point, he’s in pole position to take a sixth title this year.Scott_P said:Shadsy on the case...
https://twitter.com/LadPolitics/status/1120655309293391872
Raheem Sterling’s price will go out if MU beat MC on Wednesday night, cheered on by millions of his old club’s fans.0 -
https://twitter.com/hzeffman/status/1120655728069550080
Plus Gavin Esler lead in London.
NW, NE and SE lead candidates are pretty unimpressive to be honest.0 -
Americans in my part of the world ask for their bonuses and dividends in cash, thanks to the IRS. This is easy when there’s no personal income tax to deduct. Wealth taxes will have a whole pile of unintended consequences, and probably not raise half as much as their proponents think they will.rpjs said:
The US already taxes the world-wide income of its citizens no matter where they reside. The IRS is very good at ferreting out overseas bank accounts and other assets. The biggest collateral damage from a wealth tax is likely to be ex-pat Americans as it would probably end up with FATCA on steroids with no overseas bank wanting to touch Americans, even those resident locally, with a bargepole.Slackbladder said:
Presumably thats a wealth tax. Which would lead to people having capital flowing out of the US.Danny565 said:She's so good:
https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1120498568622739459
Wealth Taxes are impossible unless you have capital controls.0 -
So there I was in Baghdad while two fat gingers tried to fix a C130 for a flight back to Basra. I was waiting in Saddam Hussein International Airport with two scholars from the Royal Marines. One says to the other, "Do you want a fuckin Burger King?" His mate grunts. The first bootie disappears for quite a while and then returns with a Burger King bag. Bootie II digs into the bag and comes out with the burger box. Hilarity ensues when it transpires his mate has jettisoned the Whopper and shit in the box.SandyRentool said:
Your knowledge of service life provides a unique enrichment to PB threads.0 -
Tories are circling the drain , especially in Scotland.GIN1138 said:Scott_P said:
Genuine change from 7 times failed candidate Nigel Fucking Farage...GIN1138 said:Difference is Brexit Party offers genuine change
These guys offered to "Take Back Control"
What the fuck happened to that?
https://twitter.com/brianspanner1/status/746488316510482433
What's with all the F-Bombs from you these days?
You come across as very undignified just lately...0 -
Having read the details in that article why didn’t he just submit the full invoice to both pots and make a partial claim against it?anothernick said:Chris Davies gets fine & community punishment
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Ranked world #1 in her event going into the world championships this summer. No, me neither, not until she has the gold medal round her neck anyway.FrancisUrquhart said:
Have i missed why dina asher-smith is such a short price?Sandpit said:
Lewis at 10/1 seems like good value at this point, he’s in pole position to take a sixth title this year.Scott_P said:Shadsy on the case...
https://twitter.com/LadPolitics/status/1120655309293391872
Raheem Sterling’s price will go out if MU beat MC on Wednesday night, cheered on by millions of his old club’s fans.0 -
Off topic, a question for the PB crowd: any recommendations for reasonably priced hotels in central NY - somewhere around the 7th Ave/52nd street area or within easy walking distance?
Thanks.
VM is fine, to avoid clogging up the thread.0 -
You mean when they were called the KLF?williamglenn said:
Her analysis of the JAMs before they were called JAMs is excellent.Danny565 said:She's so good
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2% annual wealth tax is pretty high by international standardsDanny565 said:She's so good:
https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/11204985686227394590 -
Presumably Jezza will try the same here?Charles said:
2% annual wealth tax is pretty high by international standardsDanny565 said:She's so good:
https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/11204985686227394590 -
Yes but raises a fraction of the amountanothernick said:
Not if you levy on their land and property. Difficult to move that offshore.Slackbladder said:
Presumably thats a wealth tax. Which would lead to people having capital flowing out of the US.Danny565 said:She's so good:
https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1120498568622739459
Wealth Taxes are impossible unless you have capital controls.0 -
In ChUK lists I see
2 former labour MPs: Roger Casale (Wimbledon, 1997-2015) and Jon Owen Jones (Cardiff Central, 1992-2015)
2 former Labour PPCs: Kate Godfrey (Stafford 2015, but I think she has already defected to LD a few years ago) and Victoria Groulef
1 former Labour MEP: Carole Tongue (80s and 90s)
1 former LD MEP: Diana Wallis (Yorkshire)
2 former Con MPs: Neil Carmichael (Stroud, 2005-15) and Stephen Dorrell (Loughborough/Charnwood 1979-2015)
1 sitting Con MEP: Richard Ashworth0 -
Well you can see the difference in candidate offering - or at least who the BP and Chuk are promoting:williamglenn said:
Isabel Oakeshott described it as “a real coup”. Hopefully not that real...Dura_Ace said:
I am really struggling to understand the new political fascination with ex-mil types. As if it qualifies you for anything but supplying a rich vein of stories that start, "So there I was..."williamglenn said:
https://twitter.com/alexvtunzelmann/status/1120643969124306944?s=21Theuniondivvie said:Fwiw the Corbynistas I follow on twitter are getting RSI from tweeting derogatory stuff about ChUK, nada about Nigel and his merry men (& women).
That ex-bootie has bound to have wanked a dog off or similar RM jape at some point...
libertarian ex Revolutionary communist and free speech campaigner, NHS nurse and charity worker who came to this country as an immigrant from Malaysia, a charity director, an Asian academic, an army veteran who was awarded a medal for gallantry turned conservationist, two entrepeneurs, an expert on the fishing industry and a former director general of the British chamber of commerce. Not forgetting of course Lincolnshire house wife and mum married to an Iraq war veteran!
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two ex Tory MPs, a former BBC news journalist and Notting Hill remainer who became well know mainly due to her high profile brother and dad.
No contest really!
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I know a very discerning bank that is delighted to work with Americans in the UKrpjs said:
The US already taxes the world-wide income of its citizens no matter where they reside. The IRS is very good at ferreting out overseas bank accounts and other assets. The biggest collateral damage from a wealth tax is likely to be ex-pat Americans as it would probably end up with FATCA on steroids with no overseas bank wanting to touch Americans, even those resident locally, with a bargepole.Slackbladder said:
Presumably thats a wealth tax. Which would lead to people having capital flowing out of the US.Danny565 said:She's so good:
https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1120498568622739459
Wealth Taxes are impossible unless you have capital controls.0 -
She’s also careful to avoid mentioning that it would need to be levied annually. So over 20 years it would expropriate more than half of someone’s wealth. Obviously that definitely won’t result in any changes in behaviour whatsoever..Charles said:
2% annual wealth tax is pretty high by international standardsDanny565 said:She's so good:
https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/11204985686227394590 -
The chances of ChangeUK to get a seat are London and South East, right?0
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Only if that wealth did not appropriate any value.Sandpit said:
She’s also careful to avoid mentioning that it would need to be levied annually. So over 20 years it would expropriate more than half of someone’s wealth.Charles said:
2% annual wealth tax is pretty high by international standardsDanny565 said:She's so good:
https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/11204985686227394590 -
Sandpit said:
Lewis at 10/1 seems like good value at this point, he’s in pole position to take a sixth title this year.Scott_P said:Shadsy on the case...
https://twitter.com/LadPolitics/status/1120655309293391872
Raheem Sterling’s price will go out if MU beat MC on Wednesday night, cheered on by millions of his old club’s fans.
I know he won it in 2014 but doesn't Hamilton always underperform at SPOTY unless it's generally a boring year for UK sport? I fully accept that he's a fantastic driver but the worst fashion sense in sport apart, there seems to be a curious hole where a personality should be.0 -
I'm quite interested in the tone of the Mail Online/Daily Mail towards The Brexit Party - which so far seems fairly supportive. Dacre gave oxygen to Farage, but would happily rip UKIP apart at elections to protect the Tory vote. Grieg is at least a soft Brexit supporter (if not a remainer) yet the Brexit Party (who do seem well organised and quite refreshing to many) are getting some very positive press.
I wonder if The Mail are building them up to tear them down, if Grieg ( a good friend of George Osborne) hates May so much he will support whoever it takes to oust her, or maybe he just sees The BP as a positive step in the realignment of politics.0 -
Jeezo, you and BP should get a room.brendan16 said:
Well you can see the difference in candidate offering - or at least who the BP and Chuk are promoting:williamglenn said:
Isabel Oakeshott described it as “a real coup”. Hopefully not that real...Dura_Ace said:
I am really struggling to understand the new political fascination with ex-mil types. As if it qualifies you for anything but supplying a rich vein of stories that start, "So there I was..."williamglenn said:
https://twitter.com/alexvtunzelmann/status/1120643969124306944?s=21Theuniondivvie said:Fwiw the Corbynistas I follow on twitter are getting RSI from tweeting derogatory stuff about ChUK, nada about Nigel and his merry men (& women).
That ex-bootie has bound to have wanked a dog off or similar RM jape at some point...
libertarian ex Revolutionary communist and free speech campaigner, NHS nurse and charity worker who came to this country as an immigrant from Malaysia, a charity director, an Asian academic, an army veteran who was awarded a medal for gallantry turned conservationist, two entrepeneurs, an expert on the fishing industry and a former director general of the British chamber of commerce. Not forgetting of course Lincolnshire house wife and mum married to an Iraq war veteran!
vs
two ex Tory MPs, a former BBC news journalist and Notting Hill remainer who became well know mainly due to her high profile brother and dad.0