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Benpointer said:

Presumably, if the talks between the goverment and Labour break down, as seems likely, the PMs fallback will kick in on Monday?...

"However, if we cannot agree on a single unified approach, then we would instead agree a number of options for the Future Relationship that we could put to the House in a series of votes to determine which course to pursue.

Crucially, the Government stands ready to abide by the decision of the House."

So if the government brings forward MV3 and a CU is added in amendment does the government then support it ?

Funny how certain sections of the media has totally disowned Assange....I remember when he was their hero.

FrancisUrquhart said:

Funny how certain sections of the media has totally disowned Assange....I remember when he was their hero.

He was Ace, but now he's Trump...

Foxy said:

another_richard said:

Foxy said:

another_richard said:

Foxy said:

isam said:

How will the non European immigrant on £1 a day get to work legally in the UK?

Probably via a seasonal workers visa. So the Poles and Lithuanians will be replaced by Ukrainians and Belarussians, perhaps Egyptians, Turks and Morroccans too.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45429397

Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?

I wouldn't have thought so.

The net immigration from agriculture must be no more than a few thousand.

Its the low grade service sector jobs which are dependent upon ever cheaper and more exploitable immigrants.

You mean the cheap services that poor people use?

The poor don't go to restaurants and hotels that much.

Nor do they employ cleaners and people in hi vis gear.

ydoethur said:

isam said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

another_richard said:

Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?

The Albanian mafia has the car wash business monopoly and the Romanians "self employed" moved on the big issue gig far before they had free movement.

Apparently Albanian's are running London's drug trade from the Gascoyne Estate in Barking., and the reason there are 2 Turkish Hairdressers and 3 Turkish restaurants in every street in Essex is laundered drug money... How did so many Albanians and Turks get to live here anyway?

My goodness, what is it with rogue apostrophes today?

It's a bug in the bot code.

ydoethur said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

YES. A thousand times yes. He should be allowed to escape. Bingo. Well done.

I don't approve of anyone breaking the law. Which is why I don't approve of millions of pounds of police recources that could have been spent on criminal or terrorism investigation or prevention on the streets of London being spent on keeping someone who represents no threat to the British public holed up in an embassy.

And I think you mean his alleged crimes, if we're respecting the legal process...

Failing to surrender to bail is a crime.

The rest of your arguments amount to 'people I don't like should be investigated when allegations are made, but people I like should get away with it because it's all really a plot because I say so.'

And you accuse others of being ridiculous?

May I draw your attention to the Gospel according to St Matthew, chapter 7, verses 1-5?

A crime which still has to be proven before guilt is pronounced.

My argument is simply that our police force aims to deliver the greatest outcome for the greatest number. It shouldn't even need to be made.

By contrast, your defence of this fiasco is simply woeful, utterly unjustifiable, and you, and, everyone reading it, knows it.

There doesn't seem to be anything further to be said.

FrancisUrquhart said:

isam said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

another_richard said:

Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?

The Albanian mafia has the car wash business monopoly and the Romanians "self employed" moved on the big issue gig far before they had free movement.

Apparently Albanian's are running London's drug trade from the Gascoyne Estate in Barking., and the reason there are 2 Turkish Hairdressers and 3 Turkish restaurants in every street in Essex is laundered drug money... How did so many Albanians and Turks get to live here anyway?

What you mean not everybody wants a Turkish style hair-cut....I just presumed the 10,000 Turkish barbers in every town was because they were "in".

Gascoigne Estate, sorry. Don't know why I spelled it that way

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/13/kings-of-cocaine-albanian-mafia-uk-drugs-crime

another_richard said:

Benpointer said:

Presumably, if the talks between the goverment and Labour break down, as seems likely, the PMs fallback will kick in on Monday?...

"However, if we cannot agree on a single unified approach, then we would instead agree a number of options for the Future Relationship that we could put to the House in a series of votes to determine which course to pursue.

Crucially, the Government stands ready to abide by the decision of the House."

So if the government brings forward MV3 and a CU is added in amendment does the government then support it ?

I don't see how a CU amendment works - the EU would need to agree it. A PV amendment however would only need the EU to agree a suitable extension, which I think they would.

ydoethur said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

ydoethur said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Funny how certain sections of the media has totally disowned Assange....I remember when he was their hero.

He was Ace, but now he's Trump...

Funny how the other hero, Glenn Greenwald is also not very popular in certain circles, after he went very big on how Russian had nothing to do with influencing US elections.

I'd never actually heard of him until this moment. He clearly didn't Putin as much effort into narcissistic self-promotion as Assange.

How have you not heard of him? When the Guardian were going massive on Snowdon, he was the journalist responsible for the "scoop".

Then lets just say it became clear that perhaps he wasn't an impartial observer.

another_richard said:

isam said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

another_richard said:

Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?

The Albanian mafia has the car wash business monopoly and the Romanians "self employed" moved on the big issue gig far before they had free movement.

Apparently Albanian's are running London's drug trade from the Gascoyne Estate in Barking., and the reason there are 2 Turkish Hairdressers and 3 Turkish restaurants in every street in Essex is laundered drug money... How did so many Albanians and Turks get to live here anyway?

Those EuroMart shops with a customer catchment area of 100 yards are assumed by everyone I know to be centres of dubious activity.

Noooo...say it isn't true...those shops that have virtually no stock (at least legit stock that is on the shelves).

Luckyguy1983 said:

ydoethur said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

YES. A thousand times yes. He should be allowed to escape. Bingo. Well done.

I don't approve of anyone breaking the law. Which is why I don't approve of millions of pounds of police recources that could have been spent on criminal or terrorism investigation or prevention on the streets of London being spent on keeping someone who represents no threat to the British public holed up in an embassy.

And I think you mean his alleged crimes, if we're respecting the legal process...

Failing to surrender to bail is a crime.

The rest of your arguments amount to 'people I don't like should be investigated when allegations are made, but people I like should get away with it because it's all really a plot because I say so.'

And you accuse others of being ridiculous?

May I draw your attention to the Gospel according to St Matthew, chapter 7, verses 1-5?

A crime which still has to be proven before guilt is pronounced.

My argument is simply that our police force aims to deliver the greatest outcome for the greatest number. It shouldn't even need to be made.

By contrast, your defence of this fiasco is simply woeful, utterly unjustifiable, and you, and, everyone reading it, knows it.

There doesn't seem to be anything further to be said.

Are you saying he didn't fail to surrender to bail?!!! Because if so your argument is as unconvincing as the frantic efforts of Labour supporters to say *that* manifesto with a £500 billion black hole was fully costed.

And I thought David Irving and Richard Carrier had difficulty with facts that didn't fit their mad conspiracy theories...

Believe your alternate reality if you like (and that goes for your views on the Titanic as well). Indeed, try to bully me if you like. I actually find your increasingly bizarre attempts to justify your lies and double standards rather amusing. It's a bit like the Jezziah, a person noted for his, ummm, interesting views on the Jews accusing me of being a Nazi.

But be aware that you are the one who comes across as pathetic, as well as an apologist for criminals.

Benpointer said:

another_richard said:

Benpointer said:

Presumably, if the talks between the goverment and Labour break down, as seems likely, the PMs fallback will kick in on Monday?...

"However, if we cannot agree on a single unified approach, then we would instead agree a number of options for the Future Relationship that we could put to the House in a series of votes to determine which course to pursue.

Crucially, the Government stands ready to abide by the decision of the House."

So if the government brings forward MV3 and a CU is added in amendment does the government then support it ?

I don't see how a CU amendment works - the EU would need to agree it. A PV amendment however would only need the EU to agree a suitable extension, which I think they would.

Haven't the EU said they would agree a CU ?

Though the details would have to be sorted out afterwards.

FrancisUrquhart said:

isam said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

another_richard said:

Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?

The Albanian mafia has the car wash business monopoly and the Romanians "self employed" moved on the big issue gig far before they had free movement.

Apparently Albanian's are running London's drug trade from the Gascoyne Estate in Barking., and the reason there are 2 Turkish Hairdressers and 3 Turkish restaurants in every street in Essex is laundered drug money... How did so many Albanians and Turks get to live here anyway?

What you mean not everybody wants a Turkish style hair-cut....I just presumed the 10,000 Turkish barbers in every town was because they were "in".

They've certainly spread - I don't think I'd seen any until the last ten years or so.

OblitusSumMe said:

rpjs said:

OblitusSumMe said:

dixiedean said:

First. And please tell me the Karen Bradley thing is a mistake...
Like my first.
It's the new third.

Bradley is dumb enough to make that mistake, but I didn't think Ministers wrote their own answers. I thought civil servants would do that and a Minister approve or amend.

I'm shocked that her civil servants allowed her to make such a basic shocking error. Presumably all of the civil servants who can hold a pencil the right way round have been seconded to work on no deal preparation, but even so.

Actually strictly speaking it is accurate. AIUI British citizens resident in (the Republic of) Ireland are ineligible to vote in referendums to amend the constitution, but not other referendums (it's just that the Republic has never had a referendum that's not to amend the constitution). As the UK does not vote for its head of state, nor does it have a written constitution so no constitutional referendums, the claim of reciprocity is correct.

Ah, so you are saying that Twitter has frothed itself into a rage over a question of a technical definition?

Certainly plausible.

Yes. We don’t have a constitution to amend so the written reply from KB is right and Twitter is wrong.

If Ireland ever had a referendum which didn’t involve a constitutional amendment UK nationals would be able to vote. But it’s unlikely as that’s why Ireland has referendums - as they are only required to amend the constitution eg changing marriage definitions, abortion and EU treaties. Because the Catholic Church had a strong influence until the 1990s the constitution delves into family and social issues in ways which those of many other nations don’t.

another_richard said:

Foxy said:

another_richard said:

Foxy said:

another_richard said:

Foxy said:

isam said:

How will the non European immigrant on £1 a day get to work legally in the UK?

Probably via a seasonal workers visa. So the Poles and Lithuanians will be replaced by Ukrainians and Belarussians, perhaps Egyptians, Turks and Morroccans too.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45429397

Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?

I wouldn't have thought so.

The net immigration from agriculture must be no more than a few thousand.

Its the low grade service sector jobs which are dependent upon ever cheaper and more exploitable immigrants.

You mean the cheap services that poor people use?

The poor don't go to restaurants and hotels that much.

Nor do they employ cleaners and people in hi vis gear.

They do go to pubs, burger joints and need cheap plumbers though.

Benpointer said:

another_richard said:

Benpointer said:

another_richard said:

Benpointer said:

Presumably, if the talks between the goverment and Labour break down, as seems likely, the PMs fallback will kick in on Monday?...

"However, if we cannot agree on a single unified approach, then we would instead agree a number of options for the Future Relationship that we could put to the House in a series of votes to determine which course to pursue.

Crucially, the Government stands ready to abide by the decision of the House."

So if the government brings forward MV3 and a CU is added in amendment does the government then support it ?

I don't see how a CU amendment works - the EU would need to agree it. A PV amendment however would only need the EU to agree a suitable extension, which I think they would.

Haven't the EU said they would agree a CU ?

Though the details would have to be sorted out afterwards.

I don't know - I've lost track to be honest.

I think everyone has. Maybe that is May's trick. Like spinning kids around on a roundabout so fast that when they come off they don't know which way they are pointing. She'll just present us with something and say it is what we asked for all along. Most people will be so dizzy they won't remember what the hell they wanted.

https://twitter.com/quatremer/status/1114102519750451200

another_richard said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

isam said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

another_richard said:

Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?

The Albanian mafia has the car wash business monopoly and the Romanians "self employed" moved on the big issue gig far before they had free movement.

Apparently Albanian's are running London's drug trade from the Gascoyne Estate in Barking., and the reason there are 2 Turkish Hairdressers and 3 Turkish restaurants in every street in Essex is laundered drug money... How did so many Albanians and Turks get to live here anyway?

What you mean not everybody wants a Turkish style hair-cut....I just presumed the 10,000 Turkish barbers in every town was because they were "in".

They've certainly spread - I don't think I'd seen any until the last ten years or so.

Supply and demand. If you have ever had a Turkish Headshave with hot towels you will know how great it feels. Kind of makes you understand why women like going to the hairdressers.

Scott_P said:

https://twitter.com/quatremer/status/1114102519750451200

Actually rather good!

Richard_Tyndall said:

another_richard said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

isam said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

another_richard said:

Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?

The Albanian mafia has the car wash business monopoly and the Romanians "self employed" moved on the big issue gig far before they had free movement.

Apparently Albanian's are running London's drug trade from the Gascoyne Estate in Barking., and the reason there are 2 Turkish Hairdressers and 3 Turkish restaurants in every street in Essex is laundered drug money... How did so many Albanians and Turks get to live here anyway?

What you mean not everybody wants a Turkish style hair-cut....I just presumed the 10,000 Turkish barbers in every town was because they were "in".

They've certainly spread - I don't think I'd seen any until the last ten years or so.

Supply and demand. If you have ever had a Turkish Headshave with hot towels you will know how great it feels. Kind of makes you understand why women like going to the hairdressers.

It would have to be pretty great to make up for not having any hair afterwards

ydoethur said:

Foxy said:

While Asange is a bail jumper, I don't think others typically get pursued quite so enthusiastically. It is a useful justification for keeping tabs on a foreign agent of influence, a bit like busting Capone for tax evasion.

In this case it's severely complicated by the fact they know where he is, which is not usual in a case of failing to surrender to bail.

It resembles more the medieval church laws on sanctuary, where a posse stood guard outside to make sure the fugitive didn't leave.

It also shows why other countries shouldn't abuse their diplomatic rights. If it show anything, what it certainly shows is that a new treaty on fugitives in embassies limiting their time in them to say, three months is needed.

And of course the fact we now know he and many of his supporters are as you say effectively Russian agents does muddy the pool somewhat.

Not sure about limiting sanctuary rights. Wasn’t there that Czech bishop in the US embassy for ages?

Edit: Hungarian

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/József_Mindszenty

Benpointer said:

Richard_Tyndall said:

Benpointer said:

another_richard said:

Benpointer said:

another_richard said:

Benpointer said:

Presumably, if the talks between the goverment and Labour break down, as seems likely, the PMs fallback will kick in on Monday?...

"However, if we cannot agree on a single unified approach, then we would instead agree a number of options for the Future Relationship that we could put to the House in a series of votes to determine which course to pursue.

Crucially, the Government stands ready to abide by the decision of the House."

So if the government brings forward MV3 and a CU is added in amendment does the government then support it ?

I don't see how a CU amendment works - the EU would need to agree it. A PV amendment however would only need the EU to agree a suitable extension, which I think they would.

Haven't the EU said they would agree a CU ?

Though the details would have to be sorted out afterwards.

I don't know - I've lost track to be honest.

I think everyone has. Maybe that is May's trick. Like spinning kids around on a roundabout so fast that when they come off they don't know which way they are pointing. She'll just present us with something and say it is what we asked for all along. Most people will be so dizzy they won't remember what the hell they wanted.

Well if it's a deliberate ploy she's operating on far higher plane than any of us give her credit for; Machiavelli would pale in comparison.

Yep. I don't actually think I was being serious.

ydoethur said:

Scott_P said:

https://twitter.com/AndrewCooper__/status/1114274009317892097

Would of course be first female Chancellor, and one of only two Great Offices not yet held by at least one woman.

I thought Chancellor was the only Great Office not to be held by a woman.

PM - Thatcher and May

Home Secretary - Jacqui Smith, Theresa May, and Amber Rudd.

FCO - Ma Beckett.

Foxy said:

another_richard said:

Foxy said:

another_richard said:

Foxy said:

another_richard said:

Foxy said:

isam said:

How will the non European immigrant on £1 a day get to work legally in the UK?

Probably via a seasonal workers visa. So the Poles and Lithuanians will be replaced by Ukrainians and Belarussians, perhaps Egyptians, Turks and Morroccans too.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45429397

Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?

I wouldn't have thought so.

The net immigration from agriculture must be no more than a few thousand.

Its the low grade service sector jobs which are dependent upon ever cheaper and more exploitable immigrants.

You mean the cheap services that poor people use?

The poor don't go to restaurants and hotels that much.

Nor do they employ cleaners and people in hi vis gear.

They do go to pubs, burger joints and need cheap plumbers though.

So do the non-poor and in greater amounts.

The richer you are the more services you tend to consume for the simple reason you have greater means to consume them.

Supporting Liverpool is making me ill.

TheScreamingEagles said:

Supporting Liverpool is making me ill.

Why? You just won 3-1 what's your problem?

“Are half the NI electorate really Irish *without also being British* citizens? I haven’t checked, but it would surprise me”

Every one born in NI pre 2005 or is the child of such a person is automatically a UK citizen and is also legally able to claim Irish citizenship. As several Aussie MPs have found out to their cost thinking you aren’t British doesn’t mean you aren’t British (if your parents were) unless you formally renounce UK citizenship. No one is denying anyone anything as they are legally both Irish if they wish and also British . The Irish passport makes no reference to a border - it refers to the island of Ireland.

This is a lot of fuss over nowt!

Benpointer said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Supporting Liverpool is making me ill.

Why? You just won 3-1 what's your problem?

Up to 80 minutes made me want to start smoking again.

For the second goal I was shouting 'Pass it. PASS IT. PASS IT YOU GREEDY TOSSER...OH MO I LOVE YOU'

And don't even get me started on Paul Tierney's parentage when he didn't give Liverpool a stonewall penalty.

Sunil_Prasannan said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

ydoethur said:

Scott_P said:

https://twitter.com/AndrewCooper__/status/1114274009317892097

Would of course be first female Chancellor, and one of only two Great Offices not yet held by at least one woman.

I thought Chancellor was the only Great Office not to be held by a woman.

PM - Thatcher and May

Home Secretary - Jacqui Smith, Theresa May, and Amber Rudd.

FCO - Ma Beckett.

Never heard of Chancellor Merkel?

Bundeskanzler Merkel.

TheScreamingEagles said:

Benpointer said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Supporting Liverpool is making me ill.

Why? You just won 3-1 what's your problem?

Up to 80 minutes made me want to start smoking again.

For the second goal I was shouting 'Pass it. PASS IT. PASS IT YOU GREEDY TOSSER...OH MO I LOVE YOU'

And don't even get me started on Paul Tierney's parentage when he didn't give Liverpool a stonewall penalty.

Never mind - it's only been 29 years.

(30 years after City win this year.)

Benpointer said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

ydoethur said:

Scott_P said:

https://twitter.com/AndrewCooper__/status/1114274009317892097

Would of course be first female Chancellor, and one of only two Great Offices not yet held by at least one woman.

I thought Chancellor was the only Great Office not to be held by a woman.

PM - Thatcher and May

Home Secretary - Jacqui Smith, Theresa May, and Amber Rudd.

FCO - Ma Beckett.

Never heard of Chancellor Merkel?

Bundeskanzler Merkel.

After Klingon Chancellor Gorkon was assassinated in Star Trek VI, his daughter Azetbur became Chancellor.

My now nightly update on Buttigieg

"...which set of qualities is most likely to contrast with Trump in a way that makes the Democratic contender seem fresh, and the president appear old, clueless, and malevolent? I suspect it is this question that is behind the budding candidacy of one Pete Buttigieg."

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/04/is-pete-buttigieg-a-transformational-candidate.html

Benpointer said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

ydoethur said:

Scott_P said:

https://twitter.com/AndrewCooper__/status/1114274009317892097

Would of course be first female Chancellor, and one of only two Great Offices not yet held by at least one woman.

I thought Chancellor was the only Great Office not to be held by a woman.

PM - Thatcher and May

Home Secretary - Jacqui Smith, Theresa May, and Amber Rudd.

FCO - Ma Beckett.

Never heard of Chancellor Merkel?

Bundeskanzler Merkel.

Bundeskalzlerin Merkel

FrancisUrquhart said:

Totally O/T....if you want a good documentary, "a honest liar" is worth a watch.

What channel is it on?

kle4 said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Supporting Liverpool is making me ill.

Is getting so close and still not favourites because of how damn good Man City are that is the worst thing about it.

I know.

Just imagine losing only once this season and ending up with 97 points and still not winning the title.

We're going to be Manchester United fans on the 24th of this month.

Alistair said:

another_richard said:

isam said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

another_richard said:

Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?

The Albanian mafia has the car wash business monopoly and the Romanians "self employed" moved on the big issue gig far before they had free movement.

Apparently Albanian's are running London's drug trade from the Gascoyne Estate in Barking., and the reason there are 2 Turkish Hairdressers and 3 Turkish restaurants in every street in Essex is laundered drug money... How did so many Albanians and Turks get to live here anyway?

Those EuroMart shops with a customer catchment area of 100 yards are assumed by everyone I know to be centres of dubious activity.

There's a long standing 24 hour hand car wash on Maryhill Road in Glasgow that always had massive queues waiting to be be serviced, been there decades.

I has always assumed it was a front for drugs. However a fried who lived nearby assured me it was the best car wash and valet in Glasgow bar none.

You can never beat a handjob! Those automated machines wreck the paintwork if your unlucky.

Alistair said:

another_richard said:

isam said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

another_richard said:

Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?

The Albanian mafia has the car wash business monopoly and the Romanians "self employed" moved on the big issue gig far before they had free movement.

Apparently Albanian's are running London's drug trade from the Gascoyne Estate in Barking., and the reason there are 2 Turkish Hairdressers and 3 Turkish restaurants in every street in Essex is laundered drug money... How did so many Albanians and Turks get to live here anyway?

Those EuroMart shops with a customer catchment area of 100 yards are assumed by everyone I know to be centres of dubious activity.

There's a long standing 24 hour hand car wash on Maryhill Road in Glasgow that always had massive queues waiting to be be serviced, been there decades.

I has always assumed it was a front for drugs. However a fried who lived nearby assured me it was the best car wash and valet in Glasgow bar none.

24 hour? Who the hell gets their car washed at 4am?

rottenborough said:

"When you think of him in a debate with Trump, one-on-one, everything gets scrambled. I don’t know what that dynamic would be like exactly, but it feels a lot less predictable than, say, Elizabeth Warren or Beto O’Rourke."

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/04/is-pete-buttigieg-a-transformational-candidate.html

By which they mean "a lot more predictable".

rottenborough said:

Alistair said:

another_richard said:

isam said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

another_richard said:

Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?

The Albanian mafia has the car wash business monopoly and the Romanians "self employed" moved on the big issue gig far before they had free movement.

Apparently Albanian's are running London's drug trade from the Gascoyne Estate in Barking., and the reason there are 2 Turkish Hairdressers and 3 Turkish restaurants in every street in Essex is laundered drug money... How did so many Albanians and Turks get to live here anyway?

Those EuroMart shops with a customer catchment area of 100 yards are assumed by everyone I know to be centres of dubious activity.

There's a long standing 24 hour hand car wash on Maryhill Road in Glasgow that always had massive queues waiting to be be serviced, been there decades.

I has always assumed it was a front for drugs. However a fried who lived nearby assured me it was the best car wash and valet in Glasgow bar none.

24 hour? Who the hell gets their car washed at 4am?

Cabbies I'd guess.

Theuniondivvie said:

rottenborough said:

Alistair said:

another_richard said:

isam said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

another_richard said:

Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?

The Albanian mafia has the car wash business monopoly and the Romanians "self employed" moved on the big issue gig far before they had free movement.

Apparently Albanian's are running London's drug trade from the Gascoyne Estate in Barking., and the reason there are 2 Turkish Hairdressers and 3 Turkish restaurants in every street in Essex is laundered drug money... How did so many Albanians and Turks get to live here anyway?

Those EuroMart shops with a customer catchment area of 100 yards are assumed by everyone I know to be centres of dubious activity.

There's a long standing 24 hour hand car wash on Maryhill Road in Glasgow that always had massive queues waiting to be be serviced, been there decades.

I has always assumed it was a front for drugs. However a fried who lived nearby assured me it was the best car wash and valet in Glasgow bar none.

24 hour? Who the hell gets their car washed at 4am?

Cabbies I'd guess.

Nah...in my experience they are all in the casino by that time.

Just checked the nominations for my local council, and both Labour and the Conservatives are guaranteed to elect councillors in at least one ward regardless of what happens on election day. Local democracy is in a pretty parlous state in many areas, when so many seats are not being fully contested. Lots of other councils are in a similar situation.

williamglenn said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Alistair said:

another_richard said:

isam said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

another_richard said:

Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?

The Albanian mafia has the car wash business monopoly and the Romanians "self employed" moved on the big issue gig far before they had free movement.

Apparently Albanian's are running London's drug trade from the Gascoyne Estate in Barking., and the reason there are 2 Turkish Hairdressers and 3 Turkish restaurants in every street in Essex is laundered drug money... How did so many Albanians and Turks get to live here anyway?

Those EuroMart shops with a customer catchment area of 100 yards are assumed by everyone I know to be centres of dubious activity.

There's a long standing 24 hour hand car wash on Maryhill Road in Glasgow that always had massive queues waiting to be be serviced, been there decades.

I has always assumed it was a front for drugs. However a fried who lived nearby assured me it was the best car wash and valet in Glasgow bar none.

There used to be a bikini car wash advertised in the East End of Glasgow. Never partook of it myself so not sure of the 'front' element.

Edit: just remembered the name, Soapy Bubbles!

Did it go bust?

I've not kept abreast of its current status.

Scott_P said:

https://twitter.com/AndrewCooper__/status/1114274009317892097

When was the last time a CotE lost their seat at a general election?

AndyJS said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

another_richard said:

Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?

The Albanian mafia has the car wash business monopoly and the Romanians "self employed" moved on the big issue gig far before they had free movement.

There were hardly any hand car washes until the year 2000 or thereabouts. You had to go to an automatic one before then.

They were crap though. leaving dirty patches while similtaneously wrecking the finish.

AndyJS said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

another_richard said:

Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?

The Albanian mafia has the car wash business monopoly and the Romanians "self employed" moved on the big issue gig far before they had free movement.

There were hardly any hand car washes until the year 2000 or thereabouts. You had to go to an automatic one before then.

The car wash on Princess Parkway in Manchester has been there for many years, and used to have signs advertising 'The Best Hand Job In The North - £5'.

I imagine inflation has put paid to their low low prices.

Foxy said:

isam said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

isam said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

another_richard said:

Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?

The Albanian mafia has the car wash business monopoly and the Romanians "self employed" moved on the big issue gig far before they had free movement.

Apparently Albanian's are running London's drug trade from the Gascoyne Estate in Barking., and the reason there are 2 Turkish Hairdressers and 3 Turkish restaurants in every street in Essex is laundered drug money... How did so many Albanians and Turks get to live here anyway?

What you mean not everybody wants a Turkish style hair-cut....I just presumed the 10,000 Turkish barbers in every town was because they were "in".

Gascoigne Estate, sorry. Don't know why I spelled it that way

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/13/kings-of-cocaine-albanian-mafia-uk-drugs-crime

Neither Albania or Turkey are in the EU, so how does Brexit solve this?

I know, I didn’t say it was anything to do with Brexit

AndyJS said:

AramintaMoonbeamQC said:

AndyJS said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

another_richard said:

Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?

The Albanian mafia has the car wash business monopoly and the Romanians "self employed" moved on the big issue gig far before they had free movement.

There were hardly any hand car washes until the year 2000 or thereabouts. You had to go to an automatic one before then.

The car wash on Princess Parkway in Manchester has been there for many years, and used to have signs advertising 'The Best Hand Job In The North - £5'.

I imagine inflation has put paid to their low low prices.

I don't know whether many years means before or since the year 2000. The millennium still seems like about 5 minutes ago to me and I don't know where all the time has gone since then.

Honestly, I can't even remember. I recall it being there when I was a postgraduate student in the early '00s, terrifying to think that was nearly 20 years ago.

isam said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

another_richard said:

Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?

The Albanian mafia has the car wash business monopoly and the Romanians "self employed" moved on the big issue gig far before they had free movement.

Apparently Albanian's are running London's drug trade from the Gascoyne Estate in Barking., and the reason there are 2 Turkish Hairdressers and 3 Turkish restaurants in every street in Essex is laundered drug money... How did so many Albanians and Turks get to live here anyway?

I thought the latest statistics had the vast majority of the drug trade going online?

Why get ripped off buying from someone on a street corner when you can get stuff mailed to you, and every vendor is rated?

https://twitter.com/ChassNews/status/1114289740860329985

Jonathan said:

Brexit. Another day gone and the light at the tunnel seems farther away than ever.

It's almost impressive that even now it's mostly partisan games being played. Remarkable stuff.