While Asange is a bail jumper, I don't think others typically get pursued quite so enthusiastically. It is a useful justification for keeping tabs on a foreign agent of influence, a bit like busting Capone for tax evasion.
In this case it's severely complicated by the fact they know where he is, which is not usual in a case of failing to surrender to bail.
It resembles more the medieval church laws on sanctuary, where a posse stood guard outside to make sure the fugitive didn't leave.
It also shows why other countries shouldn't abuse their diplomatic rights. If it does show anything, what it certainly shows is that a new treaty on fugitives in embassies limiting their time in them to say, three months is needed.
And of course the fact we now know he and many of his supporters are as you say effectively Russian agents does muddy the pool somewhat.
Presumably, if the talks between the goverment and Labour break down, as seems likely, the PMs fallback will kick in on Monday?...
"However, if we cannot agree on a single unified approach, then we would instead agree a number of options for the Future Relationship that we could put to the House in a series of votes to determine which course to pursue.
Crucially, the Government stands ready to abide by the decision of the House."
So if the government brings forward MV3 and a CU is added in amendment does the government then support it ?
Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?
The Albanian mafia has the car wash business monopoly and the Romanians "self employed" moved on the big issue gig far before they had free movement.
Apparently Albanian's are running London's drug trade from the Gascoyne Estate in Barking., and the reason there are 2 Turkish Hairdressers and 3 Turkish restaurants in every street in Essex is laundered drug money... How did so many Albanians and Turks get to live here anyway?
Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?
The Albanian mafia has the car wash business monopoly and the Romanians "self employed" moved on the big issue gig far before they had free movement.
Apparently Albanian's are running London's drug trade from the Gascoyne Estate in Barking., and the reason there are 2 Turkish Hairdressers and 3 Turkish restaurants in every street in Essex is laundered drug money... How did so many Albanians and Turks get to live here anyway?
What you mean not everybody wants a Turkish style hair-cut....I just presumed the 10,000 Turkish barbers in every town was because they were "in".
Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?
The Albanian mafia has the car wash business monopoly and the Romanians "self employed" moved on the big issue gig far before they had free movement.
Apparently Albanian's are running London's drug trade from the Gascoyne Estate in Barking., and the reason there are 2 Turkish Hairdressers and 3 Turkish restaurants in every street in Essex is laundered drug money... How did so many Albanians and Turks get to live here anyway?
My goodness, what is it with rogue apostrophes today?
How will the non European immigrant on £1 a day get to work legally in the UK?
Probably via a seasonal workers visa. So the Poles and Lithuanians will be replaced by Ukrainians and Belarussians, perhaps Egyptians, Turks and Morroccans too.
Funny how certain sections of the media has totally disowned Assange....I remember when he was their hero.
He was Ace, but now he's Trump...
Funny how the other hero, Glenn Greenwald is also not very popular in certain circles, after he went very big on how Russian had nothing to do with influencing US elections.
Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?
The Albanian mafia has the car wash business monopoly and the Romanians "self employed" moved on the big issue gig far before they had free movement.
Apparently Albanian's are running London's drug trade from the Gascoyne Estate in Barking., and the reason there are 2 Turkish Hairdressers and 3 Turkish restaurants in every street in Essex is laundered drug money... How did so many Albanians and Turks get to live here anyway?
My goodness, what is it with rogue apostrophes today?
YES. A thousand times yes. He should be allowed to escape. Bingo. Well done.
I don't approve of anyone breaking the law. Which is why I don't approve of millions of pounds of police recources that could have been spent on criminal or terrorism investigation or prevention on the streets of London being spent on keeping someone who represents no threat to the British public holed up in an embassy.
And I think you mean his alleged crimes, if we're respecting the legal process...
Failing to surrender to bail is a crime.
The rest of your arguments amount to 'people I don't like should be investigated when allegations are made, but people I like should get away with it because it's all really a plot because I say so.'
And you accuse others of being ridiculous?
May I draw your attention to the Gospel according to St Matthew, chapter 7, verses 1-5?
A crime which still has to be proven before guilt is pronounced.
My argument is simply that our police force aims to deliver the greatest outcome for the greatest number. It shouldn't even need to be made.
By contrast, your defence of this fiasco is simply woeful, utterly unjustifiable, and you, and, everyone reading it, knows it.
There doesn't seem to be anything further to be said.
Funny how certain sections of the media has totally disowned Assange....I remember when he was their hero.
He was Ace, but now he's Trump...
Funny how the other hero, Glenn Greenwald is also not very popular in certain circles, after he went very big on how Russian had nothing to do with influencing US elections.
I'd never actually heard of him until this moment. He clearly didn't Putin as much effort into narcissistic self-promotion as Assange.
Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?
The Albanian mafia has the car wash business monopoly and the Romanians "self employed" moved on the big issue gig far before they had free movement.
Apparently Albanian's are running London's drug trade from the Gascoyne Estate in Barking., and the reason there are 2 Turkish Hairdressers and 3 Turkish restaurants in every street in Essex is laundered drug money... How did so many Albanians and Turks get to live here anyway?
What you mean not everybody wants a Turkish style hair-cut....I just presumed the 10,000 Turkish barbers in every town was because they were "in".
Gascoigne Estate, sorry. Don't know why I spelled it that way
Presumably, if the talks between the goverment and Labour break down, as seems likely, the PMs fallback will kick in on Monday?...
"However, if we cannot agree on a single unified approach, then we would instead agree a number of options for the Future Relationship that we could put to the House in a series of votes to determine which course to pursue.
Crucially, the Government stands ready to abide by the decision of the House."
So if the government brings forward MV3 and a CU is added in amendment does the government then support it ?
I don't see how a CU amendment works - the EU would need to agree it. A PV amendment however would only need the EU to agree a suitable extension, which I think they would.
Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?
The Albanian mafia has the car wash business monopoly and the Romanians "self employed" moved on the big issue gig far before they had free movement.
Apparently Albanian's are running London's drug trade from the Gascoyne Estate in Barking., and the reason there are 2 Turkish Hairdressers and 3 Turkish restaurants in every street in Essex is laundered drug money... How did so many Albanians and Turks get to live here anyway?
Those EuroMart shops with a customer catchment area of 100 yards are assumed by everyone I know to be centres of dubious activity.
Funny how certain sections of the media has totally disowned Assange....I remember when he was their hero.
He was Ace, but now he's Trump...
Funny how the other hero, Glenn Greenwald is also not very popular in certain circles, after he went very big on how Russian had nothing to do with influencing US elections.
I'd never actually heard of him until this moment. He clearly didn't Putin as much effort into narcissistic self-promotion as Assange.
How have you not heard of him? When the Guardian were going massive on Snowdon, he was the journalist responsible for the "scoop".
Then lets just say it became clear that perhaps he wasn't an impartial observer.
Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?
The Albanian mafia has the car wash business monopoly and the Romanians "self employed" moved on the big issue gig far before they had free movement.
Apparently Albanian's are running London's drug trade from the Gascoyne Estate in Barking., and the reason there are 2 Turkish Hairdressers and 3 Turkish restaurants in every street in Essex is laundered drug money... How did so many Albanians and Turks get to live here anyway?
What you mean not everybody wants a Turkish style hair-cut....I just presumed the 10,000 Turkish barbers in every town was because they were "in".
Gascoigne Estate, sorry. Don't know why I spelled it that way
Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?
The Albanian mafia has the car wash business monopoly and the Romanians "self employed" moved on the big issue gig far before they had free movement.
Apparently Albanian's are running London's drug trade from the Gascoyne Estate in Barking., and the reason there are 2 Turkish Hairdressers and 3 Turkish restaurants in every street in Essex is laundered drug money... How did so many Albanians and Turks get to live here anyway?
Those EuroMart shops with a customer catchment area of 100 yards are assumed by everyone I know to be centres of dubious activity.
Noooo...say it isn't true...those shops that have virtually no stock (at least legit stock that is on the shelves).
Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?
The Albanian mafia has the car wash business monopoly and the Romanians "self employed" moved on the big issue gig far before they had free movement.
Apparently Albanian's are running London's drug trade from the Gascoyne Estate in Barking., and the reason there are 2 Turkish Hairdressers and 3 Turkish restaurants in every street in Essex is laundered drug money... How did so many Albanians and Turks get to live here anyway?
What you mean not everybody wants a Turkish style hair-cut....I just presumed the 10,000 Turkish barbers in every town was because they were "in".
Gascoigne Estate, sorry. Don't know why I spelled it that way
YES. A thousand times yes. He should be allowed to escape. Bingo. Well done.
I don't approve of anyone breaking the law. Which is why I don't approve of millions of pounds of police recources that could have been spent on criminal or terrorism investigation or prevention on the streets of London being spent on keeping someone who represents no threat to the British public holed up in an embassy.
And I think you mean his alleged crimes, if we're respecting the legal process...
Failing to surrender to bail is a crime.
The rest of your arguments amount to 'people I don't like should be investigated when allegations are made, but people I like should get away with it because it's all really a plot because I say so.'
And you accuse others of being ridiculous?
May I draw your attention to the Gospel according to St Matthew, chapter 7, verses 1-5?
A crime which still has to be proven before guilt is pronounced.
My argument is simply that our police force aims to deliver the greatest outcome for the greatest number. It shouldn't even need to be made.
By contrast, your defence of this fiasco is simply woeful, utterly unjustifiable, and you, and, everyone reading it, knows it.
There doesn't seem to be anything further to be said.
Are you saying he didn't fail to surrender to bail?!!! Because if so your argument is as unconvincing as the frantic efforts of Labour supporters to say *that* manifesto with a £500 billion black hole was fully costed.
And I thought David Irving and Richard Carrier had difficulty with facts that didn't fit their mad conspiracy theories...
Believe your alternate reality if you like (and that goes for your views on the Titanic as well). Indeed, try to bully me if you like. I actually find your increasingly bizarre attempts to justify your lies and double standards rather amusing. It's a bit like the Jezziah, a person noted for his, ummm, interesting views on the Jews accusing me of being a Nazi.
But be aware that you are the one who comes across as pathetic, as well as an apologist for criminals.
Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?
The Albanian mafia has the car wash business monopoly and the Romanians "self employed" moved on the big issue gig far before they had free movement.
Apparently Albanian's are running London's drug trade from the Gascoyne Estate in Barking., and the reason there are 2 Turkish Hairdressers and 3 Turkish restaurants in every street in Essex is laundered drug money... How did so many Albanians and Turks get to live here anyway?
What you mean not everybody wants a Turkish style hair-cut....I just presumed the 10,000 Turkish barbers in every town was because they were "in".
Gascoigne Estate, sorry. Don't know why I spelled it that way
Neither Albania or Turkey are in the EU, so how does Brexit solve this?
Now you're just complicating the argument with facts!
Well there is rather an issue with certain EU countries being shall we say liberal with passports and / or not that fussed about fake ones being produced.
Presumably, if the talks between the goverment and Labour break down, as seems likely, the PMs fallback will kick in on Monday?...
"However, if we cannot agree on a single unified approach, then we would instead agree a number of options for the Future Relationship that we could put to the House in a series of votes to determine which course to pursue.
Crucially, the Government stands ready to abide by the decision of the House."
So if the government brings forward MV3 and a CU is added in amendment does the government then support it ?
I don't see how a CU amendment works - the EU would need to agree it. A PV amendment however would only need the EU to agree a suitable extension, which I think they would.
Haven't the EU said they would agree a CU ?
Though the details would have to be sorted out afterwards.
Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?
The Albanian mafia has the car wash business monopoly and the Romanians "self employed" moved on the big issue gig far before they had free movement.
Apparently Albanian's are running London's drug trade from the Gascoyne Estate in Barking., and the reason there are 2 Turkish Hairdressers and 3 Turkish restaurants in every street in Essex is laundered drug money... How did so many Albanians and Turks get to live here anyway?
Those EuroMart shops with a customer catchment area of 100 yards are assumed by everyone I know to be centres of dubious activity.
They need to get with the times. In Leicester the dealers run a sophisticated just in time delivery service with hoodies on BMX bikes. Like Deliveroo for people who would rather detroy their brain than their waistlines.
Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?
The Albanian mafia has the car wash business monopoly and the Romanians "self employed" moved on the big issue gig far before they had free movement.
Apparently Albanian's are running London's drug trade from the Gascoyne Estate in Barking., and the reason there are 2 Turkish Hairdressers and 3 Turkish restaurants in every street in Essex is laundered drug money... How did so many Albanians and Turks get to live here anyway?
What you mean not everybody wants a Turkish style hair-cut....I just presumed the 10,000 Turkish barbers in every town was because they were "in".
They've certainly spread - I don't think I'd seen any until the last ten years or so.
Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?
The Albanian mafia has the car wash business monopoly and the Romanians "self employed" moved on the big issue gig far before they had free movement.
Apparently Albanian's are running London's drug trade from the Gascoyne Estate in Barking., and the reason there are 2 Turkish Hairdressers and 3 Turkish restaurants in every street in Essex is laundered drug money... How did so many Albanians and Turks get to live here anyway?
What you mean not everybody wants a Turkish style hair-cut....I just presumed the 10,000 Turkish barbers in every town was because they were "in".
Gascoigne Estate, sorry. Don't know why I spelled it that way
First. And please tell me the Karen Bradley thing is a mistake... Like my first. It's the new third.
Bradley is dumb enough to make that mistake, but I didn't think Ministers wrote their own answers. I thought civil servants would do that and a Minister approve or amend.
I'm shocked that her civil servants allowed her to make such a basic shocking error. Presumably all of the civil servants who can hold a pencil the right way round have been seconded to work on no deal preparation, but even so.
Actually strictly speaking it is accurate. AIUI British citizens resident in (the Republic of) Ireland are ineligible to vote in referendums to amend the constitution, but not other referendums (it's just that the Republic has never had a referendum that's not to amend the constitution). As the UK does not vote for its head of state, nor does it have a written constitution so no constitutional referendums, the claim of reciprocity is correct.
Ah, so you are saying that Twitter has frothed itself into a rage over a question of a technical definition?
Certainly plausible.
Yes. We don’t have a constitution to amend so the written reply from KB is right and Twitter is wrong.
If Ireland ever had a referendum which didn’t involve a constitutional amendment UK nationals would be able to vote. But it’s unlikely as that’s why Ireland has referendums - as they are only required to amend the constitution eg changing marriage definitions, abortion and EU treaties. Because the Catholic Church had a strong influence until the 1990s the constitution delves into family and social issues in ways which those of many other nations don’t.
Presumably, if the talks between the goverment and Labour break down, as seems likely, the PMs fallback will kick in on Monday?...
"However, if we cannot agree on a single unified approach, then we would instead agree a number of options for the Future Relationship that we could put to the House in a series of votes to determine which course to pursue.
Crucially, the Government stands ready to abide by the decision of the House."
So if the government brings forward MV3 and a CU is added in amendment does the government then support it ?
I don't see how a CU amendment works - the EU would need to agree it. A PV amendment however would only need the EU to agree a suitable extension, which I think they would.
Haven't the EU said they would agree a CU ?
Though the details would have to be sorted out afterwards.
How will the non European immigrant on £1 a day get to work legally in the UK?
Probably via a seasonal workers visa. So the Poles and Lithuanians will be replaced by Ukrainians and Belarussians, perhaps Egyptians, Turks and Morroccans too.
Presumably, if the talks between the goverment and Labour break down, as seems likely, the PMs fallback will kick in on Monday?...
"However, if we cannot agree on a single unified approach, then we would instead agree a number of options for the Future Relationship that we could put to the House in a series of votes to determine which course to pursue.
Crucially, the Government stands ready to abide by the decision of the House."
So if the government brings forward MV3 and a CU is added in amendment does the government then support it ?
I don't see how a CU amendment works - the EU would need to agree it. A PV amendment however would only need the EU to agree a suitable extension, which I think they would.
Haven't the EU said they would agree a CU ?
Though the details would have to be sorted out afterwards.
Presumably, if the talks between the goverment and Labour break down, as seems likely, the PMs fallback will kick in on Monday?...
"However, if we cannot agree on a single unified approach, then we would instead agree a number of options for the Future Relationship that we could put to the House in a series of votes to determine which course to pursue.
Crucially, the Government stands ready to abide by the decision of the House."
So if the government brings forward MV3 and a CU is added in amendment does the government then support it ?
I don't see how a CU amendment works - the EU would need to agree it. A PV amendment however would only need the EU to agree a suitable extension, which I think they would.
Haven't the EU said they would agree a CU ?
Though the details would have to be sorted out afterwards.
I don't know - I've lost track to be honest.
I think everyone has. Maybe that is May's trick. Like spinning kids around on a roundabout so fast that when they come off they don't know which way they are pointing. She'll just present us with something and say it is what we asked for all along. Most people will be so dizzy they won't remember what the hell they wanted.
Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?
The Albanian mafia has the car wash business monopoly and the Romanians "self employed" moved on the big issue gig far before they had free movement.
Apparently Albanian's are running London's drug trade from the Gascoyne Estate in Barking., and the reason there are 2 Turkish Hairdressers and 3 Turkish restaurants in every street in Essex is laundered drug money... How did so many Albanians and Turks get to live here anyway?
What you mean not everybody wants a Turkish style hair-cut....I just presumed the 10,000 Turkish barbers in every town was because they were "in".
They've certainly spread - I don't think I'd seen any until the last ten years or so.
Supply and demand. If you have ever had a Turkish Headshave with hot towels you will know how great it feels. Kind of makes you understand why women like going to the hairdressers.
Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?
The Albanian mafia has the car wash business monopoly and the Romanians "self employed" moved on the big issue gig far before they had free movement.
Apparently Albanian's are running London's drug trade from the Gascoyne Estate in Barking., and the reason there are 2 Turkish Hairdressers and 3 Turkish restaurants in every street in Essex is laundered drug money... How did so many Albanians and Turks get to live here anyway?
Another stabbing outside Ilford station today - in broad daylight, but victim survived:
Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?
The Albanian mafia has the car wash business monopoly and the Romanians "self employed" moved on the big issue gig far before they had free movement.
Apparently Albanian's are running London's drug trade from the Gascoyne Estate in Barking., and the reason there are 2 Turkish Hairdressers and 3 Turkish restaurants in every street in Essex is laundered drug money... How did so many Albanians and Turks get to live here anyway?
What you mean not everybody wants a Turkish style hair-cut....I just presumed the 10,000 Turkish barbers in every town was because they were "in".
They've certainly spread - I don't think I'd seen any until the last ten years or so.
Supply and demand. If you have ever had a Turkish Headshave with hot towels you will know how great it feels. Kind of makes you understand why women like going to the hairdressers.
It would have to be pretty great to make up for not having any hair afterwards
Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?
The Albanian mafia has the car wash business monopoly and the Romanians "self employed" moved on the big issue gig far before they had free movement.
Apparently Albanian's are running London's drug trade from the Gascoyne Estate in Barking., and the reason there are 2 Turkish Hairdressers and 3 Turkish restaurants in every street in Essex is laundered drug money... How did so many Albanians and Turks get to live here anyway?
What you mean not everybody wants a Turkish style hair-cut....I just presumed the 10,000 Turkish barbers in every town was because they were "in".
They've certainly spread - I don't think I'd seen any until the last ten years or so.
Supply and demand. If you have ever had a Turkish Headshave with hot towels you will know how great it feels. Kind of makes you understand why women like going to the hairdressers.
It would have to be pretty great to make up for not having any hair afterwards
Some of us don't have much choice in that
Edit: As you would probably realise if you looked at my avatar.
While Asange is a bail jumper, I don't think others typically get pursued quite so enthusiastically. It is a useful justification for keeping tabs on a foreign agent of influence, a bit like busting Capone for tax evasion.
In this case it's severely complicated by the fact they know where he is, which is not usual in a case of failing to surrender to bail.
It resembles more the medieval church laws on sanctuary, where a posse stood guard outside to make sure the fugitive didn't leave.
It also shows why other countries shouldn't abuse their diplomatic rights. If it show anything, what it certainly shows is that a new treaty on fugitives in embassies limiting their time in them to say, three months is needed.
And of course the fact we now know he and many of his supporters are as you say effectively Russian agents does muddy the pool somewhat.
Not sure about limiting sanctuary rights. Wasn’t there that Czech bishop in the US embassy for ages?
Presumably, if the talks between the goverment and Labour break down, as seems likely, the PMs fallback will kick in on Monday?...
"However, if we cannot agree on a single unified approach, then we would instead agree a number of options for the Future Relationship that we could put to the House in a series of votes to determine which course to pursue.
Crucially, the Government stands ready to abide by the decision of the House."
So if the government brings forward MV3 and a CU is added in amendment does the government then support it ?
I don't see how a CU amendment works - the EU would need to agree it. A PV amendment however would only need the EU to agree a suitable extension, which I think they would.
Haven't the EU said they would agree a CU ?
Though the details would have to be sorted out afterwards.
I don't know - I've lost track to be honest.
I think everyone has. Maybe that is May's trick. Like spinning kids around on a roundabout so fast that when they come off they don't know which way they are pointing. She'll just present us with something and say it is what we asked for all along. Most people will be so dizzy they won't remember what the hell they wanted.
Well if it's a deliberate ploy she's operating on far higher plane than any of us give her credit for; Machiavelli would pale in comparison.
Presumably, if the talks between the goverment and Labour break down, as seems likely, the PMs fallback will kick in on Monday?...
"However, if we cannot agree on a single unified approach, then we would instead agree a number of options for the Future Relationship that we could put to the House in a series of votes to determine which course to pursue.
Crucially, the Government stands ready to abide by the decision of the House."
So if the government brings forward MV3 and a CU is added in amendment does the government then support it ?
I don't see how a CU amendment works - the EU would need to agree it. A PV amendment however would only need the EU to agree a suitable extension, which I think they would.
Haven't the EU said they would agree a CU ?
Though the details would have to be sorted out afterwards.
I don't know - I've lost track to be honest.
I think everyone has. Maybe that is May's trick. Like spinning kids around on a roundabout so fast that when they come off they don't know which way they are pointing. She'll just present us with something and say it is what we asked for all along. Most people will be so dizzy they won't remember what the hell they wanted.
Well if it's a deliberate ploy she's operating on far higher plane than any of us give her credit for; Machiavelli would pale in comparison.
Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?
The Albanian mafia has the car wash business monopoly and the Romanians "self employed" moved on the big issue gig far before they had free movement.
Apparently Albanian's are running London's drug trade from the Gascoyne Estate in Barking., and the reason there are 2 Turkish Hairdressers and 3 Turkish restaurants in every street in Essex is laundered drug money... How did so many Albanians and Turks get to live here anyway?
What you mean not everybody wants a Turkish style hair-cut....I just presumed the 10,000 Turkish barbers in every town was because they were "in".
Gascoigne Estate, sorry. Don't know why I spelled it that way
How will the non European immigrant on £1 a day get to work legally in the UK?
Probably via a seasonal workers visa. So the Poles and Lithuanians will be replaced by Ukrainians and Belarussians, perhaps Egyptians, Turks and Morroccans too.
Presumably, if the talks between the goverment and Labour break down, as seems likely, the PMs fallback will kick in on Monday?...
"However, if we cannot agree on a single unified approach, then we would instead agree a number of options for the Future Relationship that we could put to the House in a series of votes to determine which course to pursue.
Crucially, the Government stands ready to abide by the decision of the House."
So if the government brings forward MV3 and a CU is added in amendment does the government then support it ?
I don't see how a CU amendment works - the EU would need to agree it. A PV amendment however would only need the EU to agree a suitable extension, which I think they would.
Haven't the EU said they would agree a CU ?
Though the details would have to be sorted out afterwards.
I don't know - I've lost track to be honest.
I think everyone has. Maybe that is May's trick. Like spinning kids around on a roundabout so fast that when they come off they don't know which way they are pointing. She'll just present us with something and say it is what we asked for all along. Most people will be so dizzy they won't remember what the hell they wanted.
Well if it's a deliberate ploy she's operating on far higher plane than any of us give her credit for; Machiavelli would pale in comparison.
“Are half the NI electorate really Irish *without also being British* citizens? I haven’t checked, but it would surprise me”
Every one born in NI pre 2005 or is the child of such a person is automatically a UK citizen and is also legally able to claim Irish citizenship. As several Aussie MPs have found out to their cost thinking you aren’t British doesn’t mean you aren’t British (if your parents were) unless you formally renounce UK citizenship. No one is denying anyone anything as they are legally both Irish if they wish and also British . The Irish passport makes no reference to a border - it refers to the island of Ireland.
"...which set of qualities is most likely to contrast with Trump in a way that makes the Democratic contender seem fresh, and the president appear old, clueless, and malevolent? I suspect it is this question that is behind the budding candidacy of one Pete Buttigieg."
"When you think of him in a debate with Trump, one-on-one, everything gets scrambled. I don’t know what that dynamic would be like exactly, but it feels a lot less predictable than, say, Elizabeth Warren or Beto O’Rourke."
Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?
The Albanian mafia has the car wash business monopoly and the Romanians "self employed" moved on the big issue gig far before they had free movement.
Apparently Albanian's are running London's drug trade from the Gascoyne Estate in Barking., and the reason there are 2 Turkish Hairdressers and 3 Turkish restaurants in every street in Essex is laundered drug money... How did so many Albanians and Turks get to live here anyway?
Those EuroMart shops with a customer catchment area of 100 yards are assumed by everyone I know to be centres of dubious activity.
There's a long standing 24 hour hand car wash on Maryhill Road in Glasgow that always had massive queues waiting to be be serviced, been there decades.
I has always assumed it was a front for drugs. However a fried who lived nearby assured me it was the best car wash and valet in Glasgow bar none.
There's a long standing 24 hour hand car wash on Maryhill Road in Glasgow that always had massive queues waiting to be be serviced, been there decades.
I've heard of "car washes" where it isn't the car getting serviced, if you get my meaning.
Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?
The Albanian mafia has the car wash business monopoly and the Romanians "self employed" moved on the big issue gig far before they had free movement.
Apparently Albanian's are running London's drug trade from the Gascoyne Estate in Barking., and the reason there are 2 Turkish Hairdressers and 3 Turkish restaurants in every street in Essex is laundered drug money... How did so many Albanians and Turks get to live here anyway?
Those EuroMart shops with a customer catchment area of 100 yards are assumed by everyone I know to be centres of dubious activity.
There's a long standing 24 hour hand car wash on Maryhill Road in Glasgow that always had massive queues waiting to be be serviced, been there decades.
I has always assumed it was a front for drugs. However a fried who lived nearby assured me it was the best car wash and valet in Glasgow bar none.
You can never beat a handjob! Those automated machines wreck the paintwork if your unlucky.
Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?
The Albanian mafia has the car wash business monopoly and the Romanians "self employed" moved on the big issue gig far before they had free movement.
Apparently Albanian's are running London's drug trade from the Gascoyne Estate in Barking., and the reason there are 2 Turkish Hairdressers and 3 Turkish restaurants in every street in Essex is laundered drug money... How did so many Albanians and Turks get to live here anyway?
Those EuroMart shops with a customer catchment area of 100 yards are assumed by everyone I know to be centres of dubious activity.
There's a long standing 24 hour hand car wash on Maryhill Road in Glasgow that always had massive queues waiting to be be serviced, been there decades.
I has always assumed it was a front for drugs. However a fried who lived nearby assured me it was the best car wash and valet in Glasgow bar none.
24 hour? Who the hell gets their car washed at 4am?
"When you think of him in a debate with Trump, one-on-one, everything gets scrambled. I don’t know what that dynamic would be like exactly, but it feels a lot less predictable than, say, Elizabeth Warren or Beto O’Rourke."
Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?
The Albanian mafia has the car wash business monopoly and the Romanians "self employed" moved on the big issue gig far before they had free movement.
Apparently Albanian's are running London's drug trade from the Gascoyne Estate in Barking., and the reason there are 2 Turkish Hairdressers and 3 Turkish restaurants in every street in Essex is laundered drug money... How did so many Albanians and Turks get to live here anyway?
Those EuroMart shops with a customer catchment area of 100 yards are assumed by everyone I know to be centres of dubious activity.
There's a long standing 24 hour hand car wash on Maryhill Road in Glasgow that always had massive queues waiting to be be serviced, been there decades.
I has always assumed it was a front for drugs. However a fried who lived nearby assured me it was the best car wash and valet in Glasgow bar none.
There used to be a bikini car wash advertised in the East End of Glasgow. Never partook of it myself so not sure of the 'front' element.
Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?
The Albanian mafia has the car wash business monopoly and the Romanians "self employed" moved on the big issue gig far before they had free movement.
Apparently Albanian's are running London's drug trade from the Gascoyne Estate in Barking., and the reason there are 2 Turkish Hairdressers and 3 Turkish restaurants in every street in Essex is laundered drug money... How did so many Albanians and Turks get to live here anyway?
Those EuroMart shops with a customer catchment area of 100 yards are assumed by everyone I know to be centres of dubious activity.
There's a long standing 24 hour hand car wash on Maryhill Road in Glasgow that always had massive queues waiting to be be serviced, been there decades.
I has always assumed it was a front for drugs. However a fried who lived nearby assured me it was the best car wash and valet in Glasgow bar none.
24 hour? Who the hell gets their car washed at 4am?
Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?
The Albanian mafia has the car wash business monopoly and the Romanians "self employed" moved on the big issue gig far before they had free movement.
Apparently Albanian's are running London's drug trade from the Gascoyne Estate in Barking., and the reason there are 2 Turkish Hairdressers and 3 Turkish restaurants in every street in Essex is laundered drug money... How did so many Albanians and Turks get to live here anyway?
Those EuroMart shops with a customer catchment area of 100 yards are assumed by everyone I know to be centres of dubious activity.
I has always assumed it was a front for drugs. However a friend who lived nearby assured me it was the best car wash and valet in Glasgow bar none.
Those two things are not necessarily mutually exclusive, it could be a front but also still a great car wash.
Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?
The Albanian mafia has the car wash business monopoly and the Romanians "self employed" moved on the big issue gig far before they had free movement.
Apparently Albanian's are running London's drug trade from the Gascoyne Estate in Barking., and the reason there are 2 Turkish Hairdressers and 3 Turkish restaurants in every street in Essex is laundered drug money... How did so many Albanians and Turks get to live here anyway?
Those EuroMart shops with a customer catchment area of 100 yards are assumed by everyone I know to be centres of dubious activity.
There's a long standing 24 hour hand car wash on Maryhill Road in Glasgow that always had massive queues waiting to be be serviced, been there decades.
I has always assumed it was a front for drugs. However a fried who lived nearby assured me it was the best car wash and valet in Glasgow bar none.
24 hour? Who the hell gets their car washed at 4am?
Cabbies I'd guess.
Nah...in my experience they are all in the casino by that time.
Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?
The Albanian mafia has the car wash business monopoly and the Romanians "self employed" moved on the big issue gig far before they had free movement.
Apparently Albanian's are running London's drug trade from the Gascoyne Estate in Barking., and the reason there are 2 Turkish Hairdressers and 3 Turkish restaurants in every street in Essex is laundered drug money... How did so many Albanians and Turks get to live here anyway?
Those EuroMart shops with a customer catchment area of 100 yards are assumed by everyone I know to be centres of dubious activity.
There's a long standing 24 hour hand car wash on Maryhill Road in Glasgow that always had massive queues waiting to be be serviced, been there decades.
I has always assumed it was a front for drugs. However a fried who lived nearby assured me it was the best car wash and valet in Glasgow bar none.
There used to be a bikini car wash advertised in the East End of Glasgow. Never partook of it myself so not sure of the 'front' element.
Just checked the nominations for my local council, and both Labour and the Conservatives are guaranteed to elect councillors in at least one ward regardless of what happens on election day. Local democracy is in a pretty parlous state in many areas, when so many seats are not being fully contested. Lots of other councils are in a similar situation.
Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?
The Albanian mafia has the car wash business monopoly and the Romanians "self employed" moved on the big issue gig far before they had free movement.
Apparently Albanian's are running London's drug trade from the Gascoyne Estate in Barking., and the reason there are 2 Turkish Hairdressers and 3 Turkish restaurants in every street in Essex is laundered drug money... How did so many Albanians and Turks get to live here anyway?
Those EuroMart shops with a customer catchment area of 100 yards are assumed by everyone I know to be centres of dubious activity.
There's a long standing 24 hour hand car wash on Maryhill Road in Glasgow that always had massive queues waiting to be be serviced, been there decades.
I has always assumed it was a front for drugs. However a fried who lived nearby assured me it was the best car wash and valet in Glasgow bar none.
There used to be a bikini car wash advertised in the East End of Glasgow. Never partook of it myself so not sure of the 'front' element.
There's a long standing 24 hour hand car wash on Maryhill Road in Glasgow that always had massive queues waiting to be be serviced, been there decades.
I has always assumed it was a front for drugs. However a fried who lived nearby assured me it was the best car wash and valet in Glasgow bar none.
There used to be a fishing store in my patch which was generally believed to be a front for something dodgy as they never seemed to attract any customers for fishing rods. That particular area was rather relaxed about these things - two prominent members of Neighbourhood Watch were widely said to be burglars. They were seen as experts giving advice on prevention, and were careful to do their burgling in Ilkeston, some miles away.
Though the details would have to be sorted out afterwards.
Yes - they said agreement in principle would only take 2-3 days, and it would be a sensible reason to have an extension. The only problem is that if we suddenly come round to it now, that short extension will trigger the European Parliament election.
Mind you, that'd be a bit silly but hardly the end of the world - I'm not clear why everyone is so worked up about it. When UKIP won previously, eyebrows were raised for a day or so and then the agenda moved on.
Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?
The Albanian mafia has the car wash business monopoly and the Romanians "self employed" moved on the big issue gig far before they had free movement.
There were hardly any hand car washes until the year 2000 or thereabouts. You had to go to an automatic one before then.
The car wash on Princess Parkway in Manchester has been there for many years, and used to have signs advertising 'The Best Hand Job In The North - £5'.
I imagine inflation has put paid to their low low prices.
Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?
The Albanian mafia has the car wash business monopoly and the Romanians "self employed" moved on the big issue gig far before they had free movement.
Apparently Albanian's are running London's drug trade from the Gascoyne Estate in Barking., and the reason there are 2 Turkish Hairdressers and 3 Turkish restaurants in every street in Essex is laundered drug money... How did so many Albanians and Turks get to live here anyway?
What you mean not everybody wants a Turkish style hair-cut....I just presumed the 10,000 Turkish barbers in every town was because they were "in".
Gascoigne Estate, sorry. Don't know why I spelled it that way
Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?
The Albanian mafia has the car wash business monopoly and the Romanians "self employed" moved on the big issue gig far before they had free movement.
There were hardly any hand car washes until the year 2000 or thereabouts. You had to go to an automatic one before then.
The car wash on Princess Parkway in Manchester has been there for many years, and used to have signs advertising 'The Best Hand Job In The North - £5'.
I imagine inflation has put paid to their low low prices.
I don't know whether many years means before or since the year 2000. The millennium still seems like about 5 minutes ago to me and I don't know where all the time has gone since then.
Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?
The Albanian mafia has the car wash business monopoly and the Romanians "self employed" moved on the big issue gig far before they had free movement.
There were hardly any hand car washes until the year 2000 or thereabouts. You had to go to an automatic one before then.
The car wash on Princess Parkway in Manchester has been there for many years, and used to have signs advertising 'The Best Hand Job In The North - £5'.
I imagine inflation has put paid to their low low prices.
I don't know whether many years means before or since the year 2000. The millennium still seems like about 5 minutes ago to me and I don't know where all the time has gone since then.
Honestly, I can't even remember. I recall it being there when I was a postgraduate student in the early '00s, terrifying to think that was nearly 20 years ago.
Brexit. Another day gone and the light at the tunnel seems farther away than ever.
Depends how you look at it. The PM has to be seen exhausting all the potential avenues before either she kicks the can down the road with further extension or brings the matter to an end with Revocation of Article 50. No Deal is just used as a bogey man in that it is an unusable option. I could be wrong! Nothing is clear-cut in this situation but the PM and her party is bust whichever way you end it. Revoke is more survivable than No Deal, although some of the head bangers might peel off, I cannot see some Tory backbenchers or ministers leaving the party. So Revoke is more plausible than No Deal.
Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?
The Albanian mafia has the car wash business monopoly and the Romanians "self employed" moved on the big issue gig far before they had free movement.
Apparently Albanian's are running London's drug trade from the Gascoyne Estate in Barking., and the reason there are 2 Turkish Hairdressers and 3 Turkish restaurants in every street in Essex is laundered drug money... How did so many Albanians and Turks get to live here anyway?
I thought the latest statistics had the vast majority of the drug trade going online?
Why get ripped off buying from someone on a street corner when you can get stuff mailed to you, and every vendor is rated?
Is washing cars and selling the Big Issue seasonal work ?
The Albanian mafia has the car wash business monopoly and the Romanians "self employed" moved on the big issue gig far before they had free movement.
Apparently Albanian's are running London's drug trade from the Gascoyne Estate in Barking., and the reason there are 2 Turkish Hairdressers and 3 Turkish restaurants in every street in Essex is laundered drug money... How did so many Albanians and Turks get to live here anyway?
I thought the latest statistics had the vast majority of the drug trade going online?
Why get ripped off buying from someone on a street corner when you can get stuff mailed to you, and every vendor is rated?
I really wouldn’t know, but The Guardian are gushing with praise for the Albanian’s business nous
Brexit. Another day gone and the light at the tunnel seems farther away than ever.
Depends how you look at it. The PM has to be seen exhausting all the potential avenues before either she kicks the can down the road with further extension or brings the matter to an end with Revocation of Article 50. No Deal is just used as a bogey man in that it is an unusable option. I could be wrong! Nothing is clear-cut in this situation but the PM and her party is bust whichever way you end it. Revoke is more survivable than No Deal, although some of the head bangers might peel off, I cannot see some Tory backbenchers or ministers leaving the party. So Revoke is more plausible than No Deal.
The problem you have is that you come from the remain side and so see Revoke as plausible and less damaging. For many on the Leave side, myself included, No Deal, whilst not the preferred result, is far less damaging to our democracy than Revoke. It is a gamble either way as we neither of us objectively know which is the less damaging route.
Frankly for the vast majority of people in the country, the Tories going bust is neither here nor there.
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It resembles more the medieval church laws on sanctuary, where a posse stood guard outside to make sure the fugitive didn't leave.
It also shows why other countries shouldn't abuse their diplomatic rights. If it does show anything, what it certainly shows is that a new treaty on fugitives in embassies limiting their time in them to say, three months is needed.
And of course the fact we now know he and many of his supporters are as you say effectively Russian agents does muddy the pool somewhat.
Nor do they employ cleaners and people in hi vis gear.
Under existing FOM rules (that we have never enforced) it is possible to deport EU citizens who do not support themselves by working.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30002138
My argument is simply that our police force aims to deliver the greatest outcome for the greatest number. It shouldn't even need to be made.
By contrast, your defence of this fiasco is simply woeful, utterly unjustifiable, and you, and, everyone reading it, knows it.
There doesn't seem to be anything further to be said.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/13/kings-of-cocaine-albanian-mafia-uk-drugs-crime
Then lets just say it became clear that perhaps he wasn't an impartial observer.
And I thought David Irving and Richard Carrier had difficulty with facts that didn't fit their mad conspiracy theories...
Believe your alternate reality if you like (and that goes for your views on the Titanic as well). Indeed, try to bully me if you like. I actually find your increasingly bizarre attempts to justify your lies and double standards rather amusing. It's a bit like the Jezziah, a person noted for his, ummm, interesting views on the Jews accusing me of being a Nazi.
But be aware that you are the one who comes across as pathetic, as well as an apologist for criminals.
Though the details would have to be sorted out afterwards.
If Ireland ever had a referendum which didn’t involve a constitutional amendment UK nationals would be able to vote. But it’s unlikely as that’s why Ireland has referendums - as they are only required to amend the constitution eg changing marriage definitions, abortion and EU treaties. Because the Catholic Church had a strong influence until the 1990s the constitution delves into family and social issues in ways which those of many other nations don’t.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/ilford-stabbing-young-man-stabbed-in-broad-daylight-outside-busy-train-station-in-east-london-a4110756.html
Edit: As you would probably realise if you looked at my avatar.
Edit: Hungarian
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/József_Mindszenty
PM - Thatcher and May
Home Secretary - Jacqui Smith, Theresa May, and Amber Rudd.
FCO - Ma Beckett.
The richer you are the more services you tend to consume for the simple reason you have greater means to consume them.
“Are half the NI electorate really Irish *without also being British* citizens? I haven’t checked, but it would surprise me”
Every one born in NI pre 2005 or is the child of such a person is automatically a UK citizen and is also legally able to claim Irish citizenship. As several Aussie MPs have found out to their cost thinking you aren’t British doesn’t mean you aren’t British (if your parents were) unless you formally renounce UK citizenship. No one is denying anyone anything as they are legally both Irish if they wish and also British . The Irish passport makes no reference to a border - it refers to the island of Ireland.
This is a lot of fuss over nowt!
For the second goal I was shouting 'Pass it. PASS IT. PASS IT YOU GREEDY TOSSER...OH MO I LOVE YOU'
And don't even get me started on Paul Tierney's parentage when he didn't give Liverpool a stonewall penalty.
We've had a female Lord Chancellor, Liz Truss.
(30 years after City win this year.)
"...which set of qualities is most likely to contrast with Trump in a way that makes the Democratic contender seem fresh, and the president appear old, clueless, and malevolent? I suspect it is this question that is behind the budding candidacy of one Pete Buttigieg."
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/04/is-pete-buttigieg-a-transformational-candidate.html
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/04/is-pete-buttigieg-a-transformational-candidate.html
I has always assumed it was a front for drugs. However a fried who lived nearby assured me it was the best car wash and valet in Glasgow bar none.
Just imagine losing only once this season and ending up with 97 points and still not winning the title.
We're going to be Manchester United fans on the 24th of this month.
Edit: just remembered the name, Soapy Bubbles!
1. Boris Johnson.
2. Michael Gove.
3. Dominic Raab.
4. Jeremy Hunt.
5. Matthew Hancock.
6. Sajid Javid.
7. Andrea Leadsom.
8. Johnny Mercer.
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.125574963
When was the last time a CotE lost their seat at a general election?
Mind you, that'd be a bit silly but hardly the end of the world - I'm not clear why everyone is so worked up about it. When UKIP won previously, eyebrows were raised for a day or so and then the agenda moved on.
I imagine inflation has put paid to their low low prices.
Why get ripped off buying from someone on a street corner when you can get stuff mailed to you, and every vendor is rated?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/13/kings-of-cocaine-albanian-mafia-uk-drugs-crime
Frankly for the vast majority of people in the country, the Tories going bust is neither here nor there.