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As you should know, I always look for a twist in these punning contests.Charles said:
I think you’re stretching the truth until it hangs by a thread. To draw it out, you’re giving it no quarterydoethur said:
Really? I thought they used the Duke of Exeter's Daughter.Charles said:
I’m sure he was wracked with guiltydoethur said:
It was a fawkes terrrorist. His hands were not Guyded properly.DougSeal said:
The most celebrated attempt to blow up Parliament was by Catholic militants IIRC.algarkirk said:
Remember it well. All those members of the Methodists and the United Reformed Church blowing up parliament, beheading film stars and stabbing policemen. Who could possibly forget it.Nigel_Foremain said:
I guess you don't remember when Monty Python brought out a film called "the Life of Brian" then?david_herdson said:
However, there *are* plenty of muslims who will actively campaign against homosexuality in aggressive and intimidating ways. I don't think there are that many Christians who would campaign in like manner against taking God's name in vain.Nigel_Foremain said:
Many Christians, particularly fundamentalists, believe in the literal truth of the Holy Bible, not just the New Testament, but also the old. Suggesting that all Muslims think homosexuals should be thrown off tall buildings is really as silly as suggesting large numbers of Christians believe blasphemers should be stoned.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Pulpstar, I learnt it at school (A-level in Religious Studies).
Don't have my school books to hand, as you might expect. Checking Wikipedia, this is under the Revelations section:
"The Quran (literally, "Recitation") is viewed by Muslims as the final revelation and literal word of God..."
That's a literalist/fundamentalist perspective of the Quran and, I believe, the position held by the vast majority of Muslims.
Later, in the Sunni section:
"Traditionalist theology is characterized by its adherence to a literal understanding of the Quran and the Sunnah, the belief in the Quran to be uncreated and eternal, and opposes reason (kalam) in religious matters"
Both those excerpts do have source numbers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam
Apparently she was notorious for her hard screwing.
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(And the polling in places like Alabama and Mississippi on things like homosexuality would - I suspect - be little different to that of Muslims in the UK.)rpjs said:
I don't think people outside the US realize just how extreme some American evangelicals are, especially the Dominionists. They're not a "wobble"; they're serious, well organized and they want to institute a "Christian" theocracy so extreme it'd make Atwood's Gilead look like Hoxha's Albania. There have been worryingly successful attempts by them in recent years to infiltrate the USAF. Why? Because the USAF run the missile silos and some strands of their thinking equate "Judgement Day" with all-out nuclear war.OblitusSumMe said:
Right. There are some wobbles in Christian countries, see for example the evangelicals in the US, or 20th century Ireland, but in general there is secular government and bible interpretation. Though maybe non-Western Christianity is more literal, if one considers the tensions in the Anglican communion as an example.SeanT said:
Morris Dancer is taking “fundamentalist” to mean “I believe my Holy Book is literally the word of God, beginning to end”. In that respect he is surely right. The whole point of Islam is that you entirely believe in the words of the Prophet, as expressed in the Koran, in a way that is not true of, say, Christians and the Bible, post the EnlightenmentEndillion said:
In the UK? Worldwide?Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Thompson, the clear majority of Muslims are fundamentalists. I don't say that in a pejorative way, only in reference to their approach to religious books. Biblical fundamentalists (and literalists, who are almost identical) are in a minority compared to conservatives (a term which journalists abuse and misuse all the time...) and liberals. That is not true of Islam.
Either way, I don't think you're right.
They know not to be too open about their extremism though, so they still below most people's radar. The current VP maybe isn't quite as bonkers as some, but he's certainly the most extremist Christian fundamentalist to achieve high office in the US so far. One of the reasons I'm not sure I'd really like to see Trump impeached is that it would put Pence into the Oval Office.0 -
The good doctor retires from the fieldydoethur said:
As you should know, I always look for a twist in these punning contests.Charles said:
I think you’re stretching the truth until it hangs by a thread. To draw it out, you’re giving it no quarterydoethur said:
Really? I thought they used the Duke of Exeter's Daughter.Charles said:
I’m sure he was wracked with guiltydoethur said:
It was a fawkes terrrorist. His hands were not Guyded properly.DougSeal said:
The most celebrated attempt to blow up Parliament was by Catholic militants IIRC.algarkirk said:
Remember it well. All those members of the Methodists and the United Reformed Church blowing up parliament, beheading film stars and stabbing policemen. Who could possibly forget it.Nigel_Foremain said:
I guess you don't remember when Monty Python brought out a film called "the Life of Brian" then?david_herdson said:
However, there *are* plenty of muslims who will actively campaign against homosexuality in aggressive and intimidating ways. I don't think there are that many Christians who would campaign in like manner against taking God's name in vain.Nigel_Foremain said:
Many Christians, particularly fundamentalists, believe in the literal truth of the Holy Bible, not just the New Testament, but also the old. Suggesting that all Muslims think homosexuals should be thrown off tall buildings is really as silly as suggesting large numbers of Christians believe blasphemers should be stoned.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Pulpstar, I learnt it at school (A-level in Religious Studies).
Don't have my school books to hand, as you might expect. Checking Wikipedia, this is under the Revelations section:
"The Quran (literally, "Recitation") is viewed by Muslims as the final revelation and literal word of God..."
That's a literalist/fundamentalist perspective of the Quran and, I believe, the position held by the vast majority of Muslims.
Later, in the Sunni section:
"Traditionalist theology is characterized by its adherence to a literal understanding of the Quran and the Sunnah, the belief in the Quran to be uncreated and eternal, and opposes reason (kalam) in religious matters"
Both those excerpts do have source numbers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam
Apparently she was notorious for her hard screwing.
Have a good evening.0 -
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Francois is clearly about to twat Will Self, there. Inches away. I wish he had punched the smug, supercilious c*nt*GIN1138 said:
My uncle looks like Mark Francois...Anorak said:
The last 15 seconds of that are ... look, they just are. Anyway, Baddiel nailed it.Theuniondivvie said:A wonder of nature, a snowflake made of gammon.
https://twitter.com/Jim_Cornelius/status/1104012217178091520
https://twitter.com/Baddiel/status/1104034216365445121
*I refer to Will Self, though I accept it is confusing0 -
It's due to all of the fretting over Brexit :-)AndyJS said:"Life expectancy falls by six months in biggest drop in UK forecasts
Decline in longevity in England and Wales ‘a trend as opposed to a blip’, experts say"
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/mar/07/life-expectancy-slumps-by-five-months0 -
There's some interesting polling here:rcs1000 said:
How would we measure that?Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Thompson, the clear majority of Muslims are fundamentalists. I don't say that in a pejorative way, only in reference to their approach to religious books. Biblical fundamentalists (and literalists, who are almost identical) are in a minority compared to conservatives (a term which journalists abuse and misuse all the time...) and liberals. That is not true of Islam.
First, there is the distinction between the cultural Muslims, and the actual Muslims. I have a number of friends who drink and cheerfully describe themselves as unbelieving of God. But who also tick "Islam" on forms asking for their religion.
Secondly, there are those who do believe in God, but aren't exactly that keen on all the rules, and might make it to the Mosque twice a year (usually to keep more religious parents happy). I went to a 60% Muslim school in Bedford, and I have a lot of Facebook friends who'd fall into that category. (And I suspect TSE is in it too.)
Thirdly, there are quite a few different strands of Islamic thought - Sufis, etc. - who don't fit neatly into the categories. The Islam that is practicised in many parts of the world is very different from the Wahhabi version. (I would argue that fundamentalist Islam has arrived as a global problem because Saudi Arabia got oil money and used it to spread their poison.) Simply, it's no coincidence Saudi Arabia is 1% of Muslims, but 50% of Muslim terrorists.
And finally, even among the fundamentalists, there are those who are violent and seek an Islamic celiphate, and those who just want to follow the rules in the Koran and provide for their families.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/08/09/muslims-and-islam-key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/
A big majority of Muslims disapprove of terrorism in general and ISIS in particular, but attitudes to sharia law vary enormously by country.0 -
Remainers and soft leavers are blaming the ERG, hard leavers are blaming May. At this point that seems pretty entrenchedRichard_Nabavi said:
Wanna bet?williamglenn said:
It makes a "blame the EU" narrative much harder.AlastairMeeks said:Is this going to change anyone's mind? My guess is no.
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Charlie Falconer on verge of quitting:
"In light of the commission coming in, I think we’ve got to put it on hold, see what the commission is going to do. If they are minded to do an investigation, they will have a range of statutory powers to get documents, emails, Whatsapp messages and witnesses, and they will do an investigation that will be completely independent from the Labour party.
So there is no point in me, with my firm of solicitors, coming in and doing exactly the same thing because it won’t carry the same degree of statutory support as the commission has"0 -
The polling results on sibling marriage would differ.rcs1000 said:
(And the polling in places like Alabama and Mississippi on things like homosexuality would - I suspect - be little different to that of Muslims in the UK.)rpjs said:
I don't think people outside the US realize just how extreme some American evangelicals are, especially the Dominionists. They're not a "wobble"; they're serious, well organized and they want to institute a "Christian" theocracy so extreme it'd make Atwood's Gilead look like Hoxha's Albania. There have been worryingly successful attempts by them in recent years to infiltrate the USAF. Why? Because the USAF run the missile silos and some strands of their thinking equate "Judgement Day" with all-out nuclear war.OblitusSumMe said:
Right. There are some wobbles in Christian countries, see for example the evangelicals in the US, or 20th century Ireland, but in general there is secular government and bible interpretation. Though maybe non-Western Christianity is more literal, if one considers the tensions in the Anglican communion as an example.SeanT said:
Morris Dancer is taking “fundamentalist” to mean “I believe my Holy Book is literally the word of God, beginning to end”. In that respect he is surely right. The whole point of Islam is that you entirely believe in the words of the Prophet, as expressed in the Koran, in a way that is not true of, say, Christians and the Bible, post the EnlightenmentEndillion said:
In the UK? Worldwide?Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Thompson, the clear majority of Muslims are fundamentalists. I don't say that in a pejorative way, only in reference to their approach to religious books. Biblical fundamentalists (and literalists, who are almost identical) are in a minority compared to conservatives (a term which journalists abuse and misuse all the time...) and liberals. That is not true of Islam.
Either way, I don't think you're right.
They know not to be too open about their extremism though, so they still below most people's radar. The current VP maybe isn't quite as bonkers as some, but he's certainly the most extremist Christian fundamentalist to achieve high office in the US so far. One of the reasons I'm not sure I'd really like to see Trump impeached is that it would put Pence into the Oval Office.0 -
I am interested to know that Will Self thinks that all anti-semites are Brexit supporters....racists, I can see the rational in that, anti-semites, there are certinaly right-wing ones, but all these ones in the Labour Party are Brexiteers....I find that rather hard to believe.SeanT said:
Francois is clearly about to twat Will Self, there. Inches away. I wish he had punched the smug, supercilious c*nt*GIN1138 said:
My uncle looks like Mark Francois...Anorak said:
The last 15 seconds of that are ... look, they just are. Anyway, Baddiel nailed it.Theuniondivvie said:A wonder of nature, a snowflake made of gammon.
https://twitter.com/Jim_Cornelius/status/1104012217178091520
https://twitter.com/Baddiel/status/1104034216365445121
*I refer to Will Self, though I accept it is confusing0 -
In Alabama you don’t need to get married before having sex with your sister?Sean_F said:
The polling results on sibling marriage would differ.rcs1000 said:
(And the polling in places like Alabama and Mississippi on things like homosexuality would - I suspect - be little different to that of Muslims in the UK.)rpjs said:
I don't think people outside the US realize just how extreme some American evangelicals are, especially the Dominionists. They're not a "wobble"; they're serious, well organized and they want to institute a "Christian" theocracy so extreme it'd make Atwood's Gilead look like Hoxha's Albania. There have been worryingly successful attempts by them in recent years to infiltrate the USAF. Why? Because the USAF run the missile silos and some strands of their thinking equate "Judgement Day" with all-out nuclear war.OblitusSumMe said:
Right. There are some wobbles in Christian countries, see for example the evangelicals in the US, or 20th century Ireland, but in general there is secular government and bible interpretation. Though maybe non-Western Christianity is more literal, if one considers the tensions in the Anglican communion as an example.SeanT said:
Morris Dancer is taking “fundamentalist” to mean “I believe my Holy Book is literally the word of God, beginning to end”. In that respect he is surely right. The whole point of Islam is that you entirely believe in the words of the Prophet, as expressed in the Koran, in a way that is not true of, say, Christians and the Bible, post the EnlightenmentEndillion said:
In the UK? Worldwide?Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Thompson, the clear majority of Muslims are fundamentalists. I don't say that in a pejorative way, only in reference to their approach to religious books. Biblical fundamentalists (and literalists, who are almost identical) are in a minority compared to conservatives (a term which journalists abuse and misuse all the time...) and liberals. That is not true of Islam.
Either way, I don't think you're right.
They know not to be too open about their extremism though, so they still below most people's radar. The current VP maybe isn't quite as bonkers as some, but he's certainly the most extremist Christian fundamentalist to achieve high office in the US so far. One of the reasons I'm not sure I'd really like to see Trump impeached is that it would put Pence into the Oval Office.0 -
On homosexuality, here's the time series for the US: https://news.gallup.com/poll/1651/gay-lesbian-rights.aspx
What's fascinating is that support for the legality of homosexuality only conclusively broke through the 50% mark in about 2006.
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That’s where they come from tho. Like the tectonic plates beneath them, the Nepalese are a collision between north (steppes, Mongolia, winter) and south (India, Aryans, summer). The geological collision caused the enormous erection that is the Himalayas. The genetic collision...IanB2 said:
Nepal doesn't have any steppes.SeanT said:ON topic, I am in Nepal right now, doing a travel piece for The Times.
It’s a troubled country with amazing culture and horrible poverty and quite nice beer.
But my, oh my, what it does have is beautiful people. The men often look like young dashing Hussars, well built and athletic, the women are even better: generally exquisite, with a mix of sultry southern brown eyes, high Aryan cheekbones, and the rosy complexion of the steppes.
Having now travelled the entire world (apart from Moldova) I can now say with authority the best looking people in the world, on average, are the Nepalese.
They are also some of the poorest. There must be a profound lesson here, but I haven’t grasped it yet.
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Indeed. I think most people will eventually shrug their shoulders and get on with their lives. Even the word Brexit is verboten in most pub conversations now - people are just bored to tears with it.felix said:
Maybe on here but not out in the real world.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Felix, I think that's very unlikely.
I suspect that, regardless of what happens in terms of remaining/leaving, things are going to be very fraught and bitter for quite some time.0 -
Religiousity has a lot to answer for. I agree with Phillip here - we’d be better off poking fun at religion. But, I’m forever told that I’m not supposed to, for fear of causing offence.rcs1000 said:On homosexuality, here's the time series for the US: https://news.gallup.com/poll/1651/gay-lesbian-rights.aspx
What's fascinating is that support for the legality of homosexuality only conclusively broke through the 50% mark in about 2006.0 -
On the “blame game”.. I would be wary if I was an ERG-er relying on the GB public laying it all at Barnier’s and Merkel’s doors.
I think the Tory rhetoric that “the people have given us an instruction and we must implement it” will stick, and either a non-Brexit or suboptimal effects of a hard one will be laid pretty squarely at their door (at least electorally).
Conversely.. I suspect Deal, Corby Deal, Norway, Switzerland and the rest would all count as “box ticked, now get on with the rest of your manifesto”.
As the sane Brexiters are fond of saying... don’t make the perfect the enemy of the good.0 -
That's 'humankind' Mr Baddiel. And on International Women's Day too!Anorak said:
The last 15 seconds of that are ... look, they just are. Anyway, Baddiel nailed it.Theuniondivvie said:A wonder of nature, a snowflake made of gammon.
https://twitter.com/Jim_Cornelius/status/1104012217178091520
https://twitter.com/Baddiel/status/1104034216365445121
(Incidentally, I was in a meeting today - 17 men and 1 woman!)0 -
The ERG don't want to leave the EU.Harris_Tweed said:On the “blame game”.. I would be wary if I was an ERG-er relying on the GB public laying it all at Barnier’s and Merkel’s doors.
I think the Tory rhetoric that “the people have given us an instruction and we must implement it” will stick, and either a non-Brexit or suboptimal effects of a hard one will be laid pretty squarely at their door (at least electorally).
Conversely.. I suspect Deal, Corby Deal, Norway, Switzerland and the rest would all count as “box ticked, now get on with the rest of your manifesto”.
As the sane Brexiters are fond of saying... don’t make the perfect the enemy of the good.0 -
Oh no! Is he not going to be an 'Antisemitism Surveillance Commissioner' after all?AramintaMoonbeamQC said:Charlie Falconer on verge of quitting:
"In light of the commission coming in, I think we’ve got to put it on hold, see what the commission is going to do. If they are minded to do an investigation, they will have a range of statutory powers to get documents, emails, Whatsapp messages and witnesses, and they will do an investigation that will be completely independent from the Labour party.
So there is no point in me, with my firm of solicitors, coming in and doing exactly the same thing because it won’t carry the same degree of statutory support as the commission has"
Odd decision. Chance might never come again.0 -
Sean - bit much.
I’m just about to mix a Martinez. I suggest you do the same and chill the fuck out.0 -
Stewart is smart and personable (if oddly gaunt). The bitter irony is that TMay’s deal would have a much greater chance of passing if he were selling it, not her. That tweet by itself - making the deal and himself look like the sane centrist position - is cleverer than anything she has done.HYUFD said:
My hunch is that the deal will fall, and we willl get an extension, possibly a long one (because the EU is as terrified of No Deal as us). The Tories must surely then get a new leader who CAN sell a tweaked deal. The avowed Unionist Stewart would be a decent choice0 -
So everyone is blaming Tories of one shade or other. Result!Stereotomy said:
Remainers and soft leavers are blaming the ERG, hard leavers are blaming May. At this point that seems pretty entrenchedRichard_Nabavi said:
Wanna bet?williamglenn said:
It makes a "blame the EU" narrative much harder.AlastairMeeks said:Is this going to change anyone's mind? My guess is no.
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I had a meeting today with my chairman/ceo and vice chairman.SandyRentool said:
That's 'humankind' Mr Baddiel. And on International Women's Day too!Anorak said:
The last 15 seconds of that are ... look, they just are. Anyway, Baddiel nailed it.Theuniondivvie said:A wonder of nature, a snowflake made of gammon.
https://twitter.com/Jim_Cornelius/status/1104012217178091520
https://twitter.com/Baddiel/status/1104034216365445121
(Incidentally, I was in a meeting today - 17 men and 1 woman!)
5 minutes to get the ceo to agree to do what I needed
I then had to sit through 25 minutes of them talking about college football and games they remember from the early 80s...0 -
Not enough!TheScreamingEagles said:*Smug bastard alert*
I'm getting paid £420 to watch F1 races this season.
I was paid £50 to watch last season's British Grand Prix.0 -
The hard left are for Brexit. Many hard left policies are against EU rules.FrancisUrquhart said:I am interested to know that Will Self thinks that all anti-semites are Brexit supporters....racists, I can see the rational in that, anti-semites, there are certinaly right-wing ones, but all these ones in the Labour Party are Brexiteers....I find that rather hard to believe.
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How anyone with such a total lack of either leadership or people skills chose to become a politician, let alone reached PM, is beyond me.SeanT said:
Stewart is smart and personable (if oddly gaunt). The bitter irony is that TMay’s deal would have a much greater chance of passing if he were selling it, not her. That tweet by itself - making the deal and himself look like the sane centrist position - is cleverer than anything she has done.HYUFD said:
My hunch is that the deal will fall, and we willl get an extension, possibly a long one (because the EU is as terrified of No Deal as us). The Tories must surely then get a new leader who CAN sell a tweaked deal. The avowed Unionist Stewart would be a decent choice
Its not as if May even has any 'big ideas' she wanted to implement or even a desire to personally profit from political power.0 -
I am scheduling a conference call with all my editors, publicists, agents, re a long dispute over the title of my next thriller. Chances are high I will be the only male in 6-8 people.Charles said:
I had a meeting today with my chairman/ceo and vice chairman.SandyRentool said:
That's 'humankind' Mr Baddiel. And on International Women's Day too!Anorak said:
The last 15 seconds of that are ... look, they just are. Anyway, Baddiel nailed it.Theuniondivvie said:A wonder of nature, a snowflake made of gammon.
https://twitter.com/Jim_Cornelius/status/1104012217178091520
https://twitter.com/Baddiel/status/1104034216365445121
(Incidentally, I was in a meeting today - 17 men and 1 woman!)
5 minutes to get the ceo to agree to do what I needed
I then had to sit through 25 minutes of them talking about college football and games they remember from the early 80s...
Some industries are already dominated by women, some aren’t. Degree results imply the female takeover of higher echelons will continue, and spread. That’s fair enough if girls work harder etc. But should we really be engineering society to ensure ALL industries are female-dominated? I have two daughters, i guess it suits me. But what about those with sons?0 -
The 1922 banged the desks in support after Theresa May stuffed up GE2017. Incredible.another_richard said:
How anyone with such a total lack of either leadership or people skills chose to become a politician, let alone reached PM, is beyond me.SeanT said:
Stewart is smart and personable (if oddly gaunt). The bitter irony is that TMay’s deal would have a much greater chance of passing if he were selling it, not her. That tweet by itself - making the deal and himself look like the sane centrist position - is cleverer than anything she has done.HYUFD said:
My hunch is that the deal will fall, and we willl get an extension, possibly a long one (because the EU is as terrified of No Deal as us). The Tories must surely then get a new leader who CAN sell a tweaked deal. The avowed Unionist Stewart would be a decent choice
Its not as if May even has any 'big ideas' she wanted to implement or even a desire to personally profit from political power.0 -
How she achieved high office will be one of the puzzles of our era.another_richard said:
How anyone with such a total lack of either leadership or people skills chose to become a politician, let alone reached PM, is beyond me.SeanT said:
Stewart is smart and personable (if oddly gaunt). The bitter irony is that TMay’s deal would have a much greater chance of passing if he were selling it, not her. That tweet by itself - making the deal and himself look like the sane centrist position - is cleverer than anything she has done.HYUFD said:
My hunch is that the deal will fall, and we willl get an extension, possibly a long one (because the EU is as terrified of No Deal as us). The Tories must surely then get a new leader who CAN sell a tweaked deal. The avowed Unionist Stewart would be a decent choice
Its not as if May even has any 'big ideas' she wanted to implement or even a desire to personally profit from political power.
Even when I find myself sort-of admiring her, just for surviving and being stubborn, she does or says something seriously cringeworthy (and often against the national interest) and I go back to quietly despising her all over again. I am sure she is a lovely person, as a person, but OMFG0 -
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I'm not sure if supporting WISE purely because one would rather be in an office full of babes than gammons is in the true spirit of things, but is it OK to consider this as a fringe benefit?SeanT said:
I am scheduling a conference call with all my editors, publicists, agents, re a long dispute over the title of my next thriller. Chances are high I will be the only male in 6-8 people.Charles said:
I had a meeting today with my chairman/ceo and vice chairman.SandyRentool said:
That's 'humankind' Mr Baddiel. And on International Women's Day too!Anorak said:
The last 15 seconds of that are ... look, they just are. Anyway, Baddiel nailed it.Theuniondivvie said:A wonder of nature, a snowflake made of gammon.
https://twitter.com/Jim_Cornelius/status/1104012217178091520
https://twitter.com/Baddiel/status/1104034216365445121
(Incidentally, I was in a meeting today - 17 men and 1 woman!)
5 minutes to get the ceo to agree to do what I needed
I then had to sit through 25 minutes of them talking about college football and games they remember from the early 80s...
Some industries are already dominated by women, some aren’t. Degree results imply the female takeover of higher echelons will continue, and spread. That’s fair enough if girls work harder etc. But should we really be engineering society to ensure ALL industries are female-dominated? I have two daughters, i guess it suits me. But what about those with sons?0 -
Her husband is an investment manager. Must be quite helpful for him to have a wife so nicely placed to know what is likely to happen next at Westminster.another_richard said:
How anyone with such a total lack of either leadership or people skills chose to become a politician, let alone reached PM, is beyond me.SeanT said:
Stewart is smart and personable (if oddly gaunt). The bitter irony is that TMay’s deal would have a much greater chance of passing if he were selling it, not her. That tweet by itself - making the deal and himself look like the sane centrist position - is cleverer than anything she has done.HYUFD said:
My hunch is that the deal will fall, and we willl get an extension, possibly a long one (because the EU is as terrified of No Deal as us). The Tories must surely then get a new leader who CAN sell a tweaked deal. The avowed Unionist Stewart would be a decent choice
Its not as if May even has any 'big ideas' she wanted to implement or even a desire to personally profit from political power.0 -
What about them? Are you saying that women bosses prevent men from being promoted?SeanT said:
I am scheduling a conference call with all my editors, publicists, agents, re a long dispute over the title of my next thriller. Chances are high I will be the only male in 6-8 people.Charles said:
I had a meeting today with my chairman/ceo and vice chairman.SandyRentool said:
That's 'humankind' Mr Baddiel. And on International Women's Day too!Anorak said:
The last 15 seconds of that are ... look, they just are. Anyway, Baddiel nailed it.Theuniondivvie said:A wonder of nature, a snowflake made of gammon.
https://twitter.com/Jim_Cornelius/status/1104012217178091520
https://twitter.com/Baddiel/status/1104034216365445121
(Incidentally, I was in a meeting today - 17 men and 1 woman!)
5 minutes to get the ceo to agree to do what I needed
I then had to sit through 25 minutes of them talking about college football and games they remember from the early 80s...
Some industries are already dominated by women, some aren’t. Degree results imply the female takeover of higher echelons will continue, and spread. That’s fair enough if girls work harder etc. But should we really be engineering society to ensure ALL industries are female-dominated? I have two daughters, i guess it suits me. But what about those with sons?0 -
Ok. They are not striking they are working to rule.
Which means interviewing ever passenger on where they live, why they are travelling, how long they have been in France, do you have anything to declare and what do you mean no alcohol or tobacco.
You can imagine how long that takes - presumably to demonstrate they need more staff0 -
Thank you for the response, but my bank account requires something more bet-y.IanB2 said:
Just lay off the bet; we aren't going to be leaving on Mar 29 and aren't going to be leaving without a deal.viewcode said:Quick question. As many here know, I have £500 riding on a Mar 29 departure. It was placed as an insurance policy against "no deal". At the time I thought the probability of delay-followed-by-no-deal was negligible, but that appears to be an underestimate:despite @Big_G_NorthWales sanguinity. What bets are there that would enable me to hedge against delay-followed-by-no-deal?
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Yet the Tories have a 9% lead today under May and are on 40%, ratings Hague, IDS, Howard, even Cameron would have killed foranother_richard said:
How anyone with such a total lack of either leadership or people skills chose to become a politician, let alone reached PM, is beyond me.SeanT said:
Stewart is smart and personable (if oddly gaunt). The bitter irony is that TMay’s deal would have a much greater chance of passing if he were selling it, not her. That tweet by itself - making the deal and himself look like the sane centrist position - is cleverer than anything she has done.HYUFD said:
My hunch is that the deal will fall, and we willl get an extension, possibly a long one (because the EU is as terrified of No Deal as us). The Tories must surely then get a new leader who CAN sell a tweaked deal. The avowed Unionist Stewart would be a decent choice
Its not as if May even has any 'big ideas' she wanted to implement or even a desire to personally profit from political power.0 -
My impression has always been that there are as many shades of Islam with as many degrees of extremism (or non extremism) as there are in Christianity. It shouldn't need saying but it clearly does, to attack all Muslims for what is either believed or done by the extremists is like attacking all Christians for what is believed or done by the Westboro Baptist Church.NickPalmer said:
There's some interesting polling here:rcs1000 said:
How would we measure that?Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Thompson, the clear majority of Muslims are fundamentalists. I don't say that in a pejorative way, only in reference to their approach to religious books. Biblical fundamentalists (and literalists, who are almost identical) are in a minority compared to conservatives (a term which journalists abuse and misuse all the time...) and liberals. That is not true of Islam.
First, there is the distinction between the cultural Muslims, and the actual Muslims. I have a number of friends who drink and cheerfully describe themselves as unbelieving of God. But who also tick "Islam" on forms asking for their religion.
Secondly, there are those who do believe in God, but aren't exactly that keen on all the rules, and might make it to the Mosque twice a year (usually to keep more religious parents happy). I went to a 60% Muslim school in Bedford, and I have a lot of Facebook friends who'd fall into that category. (And I suspect TSE is in it too.)
Thirdly, there are quite a few different strands of Islamic thought - Sufis, etc. - who don't fit neatly into the categories. The Islam that is practicised in many parts of the world is very different from the Wahhabi version. (I would argue that fundamentalist Islam has arrived as a global problem because Saudi Arabia got oil money and used it to spread their poison.) Simply, it's no coincidence Saudi Arabia is 1% of Muslims, but 50% of Muslim terrorists.
And finally, even among the fundamentalists, there are those who are violent and seek an Islamic celiphate, and those who just want to follow the rules in the Koran and provide for their families.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/08/09/muslims-and-islam-key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/
A big majority of Muslims disapprove of terrorism in general and ISIS in particular, but attitudes to sharia law vary enormously by country.
That said of course, as a staunch atheist I think all religion is pretty pointless. But if we got rid of all the pointless things in the world it would be a very boring place.0 -
Good point, thank you. Most helpful.williamglenn said:
The delay followed by no deal scenario almost certainly means a short delay in which we don't take part in the European elections, so if you can bet on the length of the extension or whether we take part in the elections that might be a way to hedge it.viewcode said:Quick question. As many here know, I have £500 riding on a Mar 29 departure. It was placed as an insurance policy against "no deal". At the time I thought the probability of delay-followed-by-no-deal was negligible, but that appears to be an underestimate:despite @Big_G_NorthWales sanguinity. What bets are there that would enable me to hedge against delay-followed-by-no-deal?
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Women are unlikely to ever dominate all industries, for starters as most will still have babies and need jobs with flexi timeSeanT said:
I am scheduling a conference call with all my editors, publicists, agents, re a long dispute over the title of my next thriller. Chances are high I will be the only male in 6-8 people.Charles said:
I had a meeting today with my chairman/ceo and vice chairman.SandyRentool said:
That's 'humankind' Mr Baddiel. And on International Women's Day too!Anorak said:
The last 15 seconds of that are ... look, they just are. Anyway, Baddiel nailed it.Theuniondivvie said:A wonder of nature, a snowflake made of gammon.
https://twitter.com/Jim_Cornelius/status/1104012217178091520
https://twitter.com/Baddiel/status/1104034216365445121
(Incidentally, I was in a meeting today - 17 men and 1 woman!)
5 minutes to get the ceo to agree to do what I needed
I then had to sit through 25 minutes of them talking about college football and games they remember from the early 80s...
Some industries are already dominated by women, some aren’t. Degree results imply the female takeover of higher echelons will continue, and spread. That’s fair enough if girls work harder etc. But should we really be engineering society to ensure ALL industries are female-dominated? I have two daughters, i guess it suits me. But what about those with sons?0 -
Stewart is very good but ultimately faced with lengthy extension and potential EUref2 or BINO I think most of the ERG will cave and with a few Labour MPs from Leave seats backing the Deal too, the Deal will scrape homeSeanT said:
Stewart is smart and personable (if oddly gaunt). The bitter irony is that TMay’s deal would have a much greater chance of passing if he were selling it, not her. That tweet by itself - making the deal and himself look like the sane centrist position - is cleverer than anything she has done.HYUFD said:
My hunch is that the deal will fall, and we willl get an extension, possibly a long one (because the EU is as terrified of No Deal as us). The Tories must surely then get a new leader who CAN sell a tweaked deal. The avowed Unionist Stewart would be a decent choice0 -
And that will all be worthless if May cannot secure Brexit.HYUFD said:
Yet the Tories have a 9% lead today under May and are on 40%, ratings Hague, IDS, Howard, even Cameron would have killed foranother_richard said:
How anyone with such a total lack of either leadership or people skills chose to become a politician, let alone reached PM, is beyond me.SeanT said:
Stewart is smart and personable (if oddly gaunt). The bitter irony is that TMay’s deal would have a much greater chance of passing if he were selling it, not her. That tweet by itself - making the deal and himself look like the sane centrist position - is cleverer than anything she has done.HYUFD said:
My hunch is that the deal will fall, and we willl get an extension, possibly a long one (because the EU is as terrified of No Deal as us). The Tories must surely then get a new leader who CAN sell a tweaked deal. The avowed Unionist Stewart would be a decent choice
Its not as if May even has any 'big ideas' she wanted to implement or even a desire to personally profit from political power.0 -
You can tell Prince Harry was raised by that degenerate and hypocrite Prince Charles.
https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/11041071354855219210 -
It will not be May not securing Brexit, she has a Deal to enable Brexit, it will be a majority of MPs voting against her Deal and for lengthy extension of Article 50 and EUref2 or BINO to avoid No Dealanother_richard said:
And that will all be worthless if May cannot secure Brexit.HYUFD said:
Yet the Tories have a 9% lead today under May and are on 40%, ratings Hague, IDS, Howard, even Cameron would have killed foranother_richard said:
How anyone with such a total lack of either leadership or people skills chose to become a politician, let alone reached PM, is beyond me.SeanT said:
Stewart is smart and personable (if oddly gaunt). The bitter irony is that TMay’s deal would have a much greater chance of passing if he were selling it, not her. That tweet by itself - making the deal and himself look like the sane centrist position - is cleverer than anything she has done.HYUFD said:
My hunch is that the deal will fall, and we willl get an extension, possibly a long one (because the EU is as terrified of No Deal as us). The Tories must surely then get a new leader who CAN sell a tweaked deal. The avowed Unionist Stewart would be a decent choice
Its not as if May even has any 'big ideas' she wanted to implement or even a desire to personally profit from political power.0 -
Arron Banks is a distraction imo, unless he can be tied to Russia. Foreign interference, misuse of personal data, appalling campaigning: there are far more important issues than some clown with deep pockets. I'd wager Leave would have won more easily without Banks and Farage.Scott_P said:0 -
Derr. No. I SPECIFICALLY said that women are already dominant in some industries - e.g, mine, publishing - and this dominance will only spread as women get better educational qualifications (which they do). I then SPECIFICALLY said “that’s fair eniough if girls work harder etc”Dadge said:
What about them? Are you saying that women bosses prevent men from being promoted?SeanT said:
I am scheduling a conference call with all my editors, publicists, agents, re a long dispute over the title of my next thriller. Chances are high I will be the only male in 6-8 people.Charles said:
I had a meeting today with my chairman/ceo and vice chairman.SandyRentool said:
That's 'humankind' Mr Baddiel. And on International Women's Day too!Anorak said:
The last 15 seconds of that are ... look, they just are. Anyway, Baddiel nailed it.Theuniondivvie said:A wonder of nature, a snowflake made of gammon.
https://twitter.com/Jim_Cornelius/status/1104012217178091520
https://twitter.com/Baddiel/status/1104034216365445121
(Incidentally, I was in a meeting today - 17 men and 1 woman!)
5 minutes to get the ceo to agree to do what I needed
I then had to sit through 25 minutes of them talking about college football and games they remember from the early 80s...
Some industries are already dominated by women, some aren’t. Degree results imply the female takeover of higher echelons will continue, and spread. That’s fair enough if girls work harder etc. But should we really be engineering society to ensure ALL industries are female-dominated? I have two daughters, i guess it suits me. But what about those with sons?
Can you read? Did you manage to read that bit?
My question was whether it is morally correct to help women, and deliberately hinder men, when it is clear that western women are already doing better, in most ways, than men, and will continue to outpace them, as things stand. If I had sons I would seriously query this attitude0 -
The same spending limits that led to Remain outspending Leave by about £5.5mn?Scott_P said:0 -
Charles practices what he preaches, Highgrove is self sufficient on organic food and he tends to travel by train or car in the UK, Meghan Markle though is clearly used to Hollywood living and some of that is rubbing off on HarryTheScreamingEagles said:You can tell Prince Harry was raised by that degenerate and hypocrite Prince Charles.
https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/11041071354855219210 -
Which may have something to do with May being utterly incapable of selling her deal.HYUFD said:
It will not be May not securing Brexit, she has a Deal to enable Brexit, it will be a majority of MPs voting for lengthy extension of Article 50 and EUref2 or BINO to avoid No Dealanother_richard said:
And that will all be worthless if May cannot secure Brexit.HYUFD said:
Yet the Tories have a 9% lead today under May and are on 40%, ratings Hague, IDS, Howard, even Cameron would have killed foranother_richard said:
How anyone with such a total lack of either leadership or people skills chose to become a politician, let alone reached PM, is beyond me.SeanT said:
Stewart is smart and personable (if oddly gaunt). The bitter irony is that TMay’s deal would have a much greater chance of passing if he were selling it, not her. That tweet by itself - making the deal and himself look like the sane centrist position - is cleverer than anything she has done.HYUFD said:
My hunch is that the deal will fall, and we willl get an extension, possibly a long one (because the EU is as terrified of No Deal as us). The Tories must surely then get a new leader who CAN sell a tweaked deal. The avowed Unionist Stewart would be a decent choice
Its not as if May even has any 'big ideas' she wanted to implement or even a desire to personally profit from political power.0 -
The ERG were never going to allow any compromise with the EU whoever was PM, what May is sensibly now doing is forcing the ERG to either accept her Deal or risk no Brexit at all, rather like a mother telling her unruly children you may want steak and chips but it is chicken and boiled potatoes for you tonight otherwise no dinner at allanother_richard said:
Which may have something to do with May being utterly incapable of selling her deal.HYUFD said:
It will not be May not securing Brexit, she has a Deal to enable Brexit, it will be a majority of MPs voting for lengthy extension of Article 50 and EUref2 or BINO to avoid No Dealanother_richard said:
And that will all be worthless if May cannot secure Brexit.HYUFD said:
Yet the Tories have a 9% lead today under May and are on 40%, ratings Hague, IDS, Howard, even Cameron would have killed foranother_richard said:
How anyone with such a total lack of either leadership or people skills chose to become a politician, let alone reached PM, is beyond me.SeanT said:
Stewart is smart and personable (if oddly gaunt). The bitter irony is that TMay’s deal would have a much greater chance of passing if he were selling it, not her. That tweet by itself - making the deal and himself look like the sane centrist position - is cleverer than anything she has done.HYUFD said:
My hunch is that the deal will fall, and we willl get an extension, possibly a long one (because the EU is as terrified of No Deal as us). The Tories must surely then get a new leader who CAN sell a tweaked deal. The avowed Unionist Stewart would be a decent choice
Its not as if May even has any 'big ideas' she wanted to implement or even a desire to personally profit from political power.
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Harry is likeable. His wife is beautiful. But he is in grave danger of fucking his USPHYUFD said:
Charles practices what he preaches, Highgrove is self sufficient on organic food and he tends to travel by train or car in the UK, Meghan Markle though is clearly used to Hollywood living and some of that is rubbing off on HarryTheScreamingEagles said:You can tell Prince Harry was raised by that degenerate and hypocrite Prince Charles.
https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1104107135485521921
And on that note I must abed. My last full day in Kathmandu tomorrow and I am scheduled to meet a living goddess (the Kumari) at 9.30am
Can anyone beat that as an excuse?
Night night0 -
If you're interested, medical statistics is majority female.SeanT said:
Derr. No. I SPECIFICALLY said that women are already dominant in some industries - e.g, mine, publishing - and this dominance will only spread as women get better educational qualifications (which they do). I then SPECIFICALLY said “that’s fair eniough if girls work harder etc”Dadge said:
What about them? Are you saying that women bosses prevent men from being promoted?SeanT said:
I am scheduling a conference call with all my editors, publicists, agents, re a long dispute over the title of my next thriller. Chances are high I will be the only male in 6-8 people.Charles said:
I had a meeting today with my chairman/ceo and vice chairman.SandyRentool said:
That's 'humankind' Mr Baddiel. And on International Women's Day too!Anorak said:
The last 15 seconds of that are ... look, they just are. Anyway, Baddiel nailed it.Theuniondivvie said:A wonder of nature, a snowflake made of gammon.
https://twitter.com/Jim_Cornelius/status/1104012217178091520
https://twitter.com/Baddiel/status/1104034216365445121
(Incidentally, I was in a meeting today - 17 men and 1 woman!)
5 minutes to get the ceo to agree to do what I needed
I then had to sit through 25 minutes of them talking about college football and games they remember from the early 80s...
Some industries are already dominated by women, some aren’t. Degree results imply the female takeover of higher echelons will continue, and spread. That’s fair enough if girls work harder etc. But should we really be engineering society to ensure ALL industries are female-dominated? I have two daughters, i guess it suits me. But what about those with sons?
Can you read? Did you manage to read that bit?
My question was whether it is morally correct to help women, and deliberately hinder men, when it is clear that western women are already doing better, in most ways, than men, and will continue to outpace them, as things stand. If I had sons I would seriously query this attitude0 -
Keep your hair on, my friend. I am still confused what your point is. How is it that men are being deliberately hindered? Boys and girls get the same educational opportunities, and it's hardly the girls' fault that they work harder than the boys and get better grades and more qualifications. Still, when averaged across all subjects the balance is probably about 60% girls 40% boys (guesstimate), so there are still millions of well-qualified young men coming into the employment market.SeanT said:
Derr. No. I SPECIFICALLY said that women are already dominant in some industries - e.g, mine, publishing - and this dominance will only spread as women get better educational qualifications (which they do). I then SPECIFICALLY said “that’s fair eniough if girls work harder etc”Dadge said:
What about them? Are you saying that women bosses prevent men from being promoted?SeanT said:
I am scheduling a conference call with all my editors, publicists, agents, re a long dispute over the title of my next thriller. Chances are high I will be the only male in 6-8 people.Charles said:
I had a meeting today with my chairman/ceo and vice chairman.SandyRentool said:
That's 'humankind' Mr Baddiel. And on International Women's Day too!Anorak said:
The last 15 seconds of that are ... look, they just are. Anyway, Baddiel nailed it.Theuniondivvie said:A wonder of nature, a snowflake made of gammon.
https://twitter.com/Jim_Cornelius/status/1104012217178091520
https://twitter.com/Baddiel/status/1104034216365445121
(Incidentally, I was in a meeting today - 17 men and 1 woman!)
5 minutes to get the ceo to agree to do what I needed
I then had to sit through 25 minutes of them talking about college football and games they remember from the early 80s...
Some industries are already dominated by women, some aren’t. Degree results imply the female takeover of higher echelons will continue, and spread. That’s fair enough if girls work harder etc. But should we really be engineering society to ensure ALL industries are female-dominated? I have two daughters, i guess it suits me. But what about those with sons?
Can you read? Did you manage to read that bit?
My question was whether it is morally correct to help women, and deliberately hinder men, when it is clear that western women are already doing better, in most ways, than men, and will continue to outpace them, as things stand. If I had sons I would seriously query this attitude0 -
Yes, early last year there was even talk of 'Harry for King' that has largely disappeared and the Cambridges and their more traditional approach is back ahead of the Sussexes and Meghan's A List lifestyle, epitomised by that extremely expensive baby shower she had with the Clooneys.SeanT said:
Harry is likeable. His wife is beautiful. But he is in grave danger of fucking his USPHYUFD said:
Charles practices what he preaches, Highgrove is self sufficient on organic food and he tends to travel by train or car in the UK, Meghan Markle though is clearly used to Hollywood living and some of that is rubbing off on HarryTheScreamingEagles said:You can tell Prince Harry was raised by that degenerate and hypocrite Prince Charles.
https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1104107135485521921
And on that note I must abed. My last full day in Kathmandu tomorrow and I am scheduled to meet a living goddess (the Kumari) at 9.30am
Can anyone beat that as an excuse?
Night night
Enjoy your last day in Kathmandu0 -
Cameron achieved over 40% in the polls in 2008 and 2009 and it didn't do him much good as he failed to get an overall majority in 2010, nor did it do much good for May when she (The Tories) were 20 points plus ahead in 2017 and yet lost her overall majority .HYUFD said:
Yet the Tories have a 9% lead today under May and are on 40%, ratings Hague, IDS, Howard, even Cameron would have killed foranother_richard said:
How anyone with such a total lack of either leadership or people skills chose to become a politician, let alone reached PM, is beyond me.SeanT said:
Stewart is smart and personable (if oddly gaunt). The bitter irony is that TMay’s deal would have a much greater chance of passing if he were selling it, not her. That tweet by itself - making the deal and himself look like the sane centrist position - is cleverer than anything she has done.HYUFD said:
My hunch is that the deal will fall, and we willl get an extension, possibly a long one (because the EU is as terrified of No Deal as us). The Tories must surely then get a new leader who CAN sell a tweaked deal. The avowed Unionist Stewart would be a decent choice
Its not as if May even has any 'big ideas' she wanted to implement or even a desire to personally profit from political power.
All this shows is how gullible people are to believe them!
I also think comparing an opposition party after many years in power to a PM in power is also a fools errand. It is a completely different dynamic and if a moderate Labour leader was in situ I suspect we would be witnessing similar opinion polls to those in the run up to 1997, Labour would be on 50% plus!
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Physical beauty is a sign of health. Obviously not in terms of coloration, but good facial development, high cheekbones, big enough jaws for teeth to sit perfectly, etc. are signs of a good diet over generations. Absence of refined sugar would probably be a good potential benefactor.SeanT said:
That’s where they come from tho. Like the tectonic plates beneath them, the Nepalese are a collision between north (steppes, Mongolia, winter) and south (India, Aryans, summer). The geological collision caused the enormous erection that is the Himalayas. The genetic collision...IanB2 said:
Nepal doesn't have any steppes.SeanT said:ON topic, I am in Nepal right now, doing a travel piece for The Times.
It’s a troubled country with amazing culture and horrible poverty and quite nice beer.
But my, oh my, what it does have is beautiful people. The men often look like young dashing Hussars, well built and athletic, the women are even better: generally exquisite, with a mix of sultry southern brown eyes, high Aryan cheekbones, and the rosy complexion of the steppes.
Having now travelled the entire world (apart from Moldova) I can now say with authority the best looking people in the world, on average, are the Nepalese.
They are also some of the poorest. There must be a profound lesson here, but I haven’t grasped it yet.0 -
One rule for the Saxe-Coburgs Windsors, one rule for the plebs.HYUFD said:
Charles practices what he preaches, Highgrove is self sufficient on organic food and he tends to travel by train or car in the UK, Meghan Markle though is clearly used to Hollywood living and some of that is rubbing off on HarryTheScreamingEagles said:You can tell Prince Harry was raised by that degenerate and hypocrite Prince Charles.
https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/11041071354855219210 -
Behind the scenes there has been some extremely aggressive press work by the Duchess of CambridgeHYUFD said:
Yes, early last year there was even talk of 'Harry for King' that has largely disappeared and the Cambridges and their more traditional approach is back ahead of the Sussexes and Meghan's A List lifestyle, epitomised by that extremely expensive baby shower she had with the Clooneys.SeanT said:
Harry is likeable. His wife is beautiful. But he is in grave danger of fucking his USPHYUFD said:
Charles practices what he preaches, Highgrove is self sufficient on organic food and he tends to travel by train or car in the UK, Meghan Markle though is clearly used to Hollywood living and some of that is rubbing off on HarryTheScreamingEagles said:You can tell Prince Harry was raised by that degenerate and hypocrite Prince Charles.
https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1104107135485521921
And on that note I must abed. My last full day in Kathmandu tomorrow and I am scheduled to meet a living goddess (the Kumari) at 9.30am
Can anyone beat that as an excuse?
Night night
Enjoy your last day in Kathmandu0 -
Though it would only produce a Tory majority of circa 40 with gains from Labour and a few losses to the LibDems. Yougov has been coming up with Tory leads of 6%/7% for several months now so we have to be aware of a likely house effect in their data. Both major parties are down compared with 2017 - though Labour much more so. In a General Election I think it is unlikely the Greens would actually poll anything close to 4% - most would probably drift back to Labour in the course of the campaign. Without having looked at the tables, I also suspect there has been quite a shift from Labour to Don't Knows - and this too would be likely to be reversed were an election to be called.HYUFD said:
Yet the Tories have a 9% lead today under May and are on 40%, ratings Hague, IDS, Howard, even Cameron would have killed foranother_richard said:
How anyone with such a total lack of either leadership or people skills chose to become a politician, let alone reached PM, is beyond me.SeanT said:
Stewart is smart and personable (if oddly gaunt). The bitter irony is that TMay’s deal would have a much greater chance of passing if he were selling it, not her. That tweet by itself - making the deal and himself look like the sane centrist position - is cleverer than anything she has done.HYUFD said:
My hunch is that the deal will fall, and we willl get an extension, possibly a long one (because the EU is as terrified of No Deal as us). The Tories must surely then get a new leader who CAN sell a tweaked deal. The avowed Unionist Stewart would be a decent choice
Its not as if May even has any 'big ideas' she wanted to implement or even a desire to personally profit from political power.0 -
For those betting on John Hickenlooper for WH2020 this is him appearing on NBC today facing tough questioning.
https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/hickenlooper-i-can-beat-trump-and-bring-us-together-14543913639840 -
Depends how rich the plebs are, though there is a danger of Meghan becoming Wallace Simpson to Kate's Queen Mother, the rumour is there is little love lost between themSunil_Prasannan said:
One rule for the Saxe-Coburgs Windsors, one rule for the plebs.HYUFD said:
Charles practices what he preaches, Highgrove is self sufficient on organic food and he tends to travel by train or car in the UK, Meghan Markle though is clearly used to Hollywood living and some of that is rubbing off on HarryTheScreamingEagles said:You can tell Prince Harry was raised by that degenerate and hypocrite Prince Charles.
https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1104107135485521921
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Very astute. I’ve also noticed that the Nepalese have amazing teeth. Beautiful white American-type smiles, without the super expensive dentistry. Even the poorest (in a very poor country) generally have beautiful orthodontic smiles.Luckyguy1983 said:
Physical beauty is a sign of health. Obviously not in terms of coloration, but good facial development, high cheekbones, big enough jaws for teeth to sit perfectly, etc. are signs of a good diet over generations. Absence of refined sugar would probably be a good potential benefactor.SeanT said:
That’s where they come from tho. Like the tectonic plates beneath them, the Nepalese are a collision between north (steppes, Mongolia, winter) and south (India, Aryans, summer). The geological collision caused the enormous erection that is the Himalayas. The genetic collision...IanB2 said:
Nepal doesn't have any steppes.SeanT said:ON topic, I am in Nepal right now, doing a travel piece for The Times.
It’s a troubled country with amazing culture and horrible poverty and quite nice beer.
But my, oh my, what it does have is beautiful people. The men often look like young dashing Hussars, well built and athletic, the women are even better: generally exquisite, with a mix of sultry southern brown eyes, high Aryan cheekbones, and the rosy complexion of the steppes.
Having now travelled the entire world (apart from Moldova) I can now say with authority the best looking people in the world, on average, are the Nepalese.
They are also some of the poorest. There must be a profound lesson here, but I haven’t grasped it yet.
The only kids I met in the countryside who were eating sweets... were chewing stalks of pure sugar cane.
It’s a wonderful country (with lots of problems), with honest, loyal, friendly, handsome people, and I hope to return very soon to see the apparently amazing jungles. And on that note, I must really go to bed. Namaste, PB, Namaste.
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Cameron failed to achieve that 40% though in either 2010 or 2015 but won a majority in 2015 because of the large gap over Labour, hence it is better for May to be on 40% today and 9% ahead of Labour as minor parties eat into the Labour vote than the 42% she was on in 2017 and only 2% ahead of Labour.The_Taxman said:
Cameron achieved over 40% in the polls in 2008 and 2009 and it didn't do him much good as he failed to get an overall majority in 2010, nor did it do much good for May when she (The Tories) were 20 points plus ahead in 2017 and yet lost her overall majority .HYUFD said:
Yet the Tories have a 9% lead today under May and are on 40%, ratings Hague, IDS, Howard, even Cameron would have killed foranother_richard said:
How anyone with such a total lack of either leadership or people skills chose to become a politician, let alone reached PM, is beyond me.SeanT said:
Stewart is smart and personable (if oddly gaunt). The bitter irony is that TMay’s deal would have a much greater chance of passing if he were selling it, not her. That tweet by itself - making the deal and himself look like the sane centrist position - is cleverer than anything she has done.HYUFD said:
My hunch is that the deal will fall, and we willl get an extension, possibly a long one (because the EU is as terrified of No Deal as us). The Tories must surely then get a new leader who CAN sell a tweaked deal. The avowed Unionist Stewart would be a decent choice
Its not as if May even has any 'big ideas' she wanted to implement or even a desire to personally profit from political power.
All this shows is how gullible people are to believe them!
I also think comparing an opposition party after many years in power to a PM in power is also a fools errand. It is a completely different dynamic and if a moderate Labour leader was in situ I suspect we would be witnessing similar opinion polls to those in the run up to 1997, Labour would be on 50% plus!
You can make hypotheticals but we are where we are with Corbyn Labour leader and likely staying there and for the foreseeable future, of course the SDP reached over 50% in 1981 and if TIG takes off who knows what would happen but for the moment they are still nowhere near that
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She is a shrewd operator no doubtCharles said:
Behind the scenes there has been some extremely aggressive press work by the Duchess of CambridgeHYUFD said:
Yes, early last year there was even talk of 'Harry for King' that has largely disappeared and the Cambridges and their more traditional approach is back ahead of the Sussexes and Meghan's A List lifestyle, epitomised by that extremely expensive baby shower she had with the Clooneys.SeanT said:
Harry is likeable. His wife is beautiful. But he is in grave danger of fucking his USPHYUFD said:
Charles practices what he preaches, Highgrove is self sufficient on organic food and he tends to travel by train or car in the UK, Meghan Markle though is clearly used to Hollywood living and some of that is rubbing off on HarryTheScreamingEagles said:You can tell Prince Harry was raised by that degenerate and hypocrite Prince Charles.
https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1104107135485521921
And on that note I must abed. My last full day in Kathmandu tomorrow and I am scheduled to meet a living goddess (the Kumari) at 9.30am
Can anyone beat that as an excuse?
Night night
Enjoy your last day in Kathmandu0 -
Travel by train - he's got a whole private train to himself!HYUFD said:
Charles practices what he preaches, Highgrove is self sufficient on organic food and he tends to travel by train or car in the UK, Meghan Markle though is clearly used to Hollywood living and some of that is rubbing off on HarryTheScreamingEagles said:You can tell Prince Harry was raised by that degenerate and hypocrite Prince Charles.
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Even a Tory majority of 40 would be the largest Tory majority won at a general election for 32 yearsjustin124 said:
Though it would only produce a Tory majority of circa 40 with gains from Labour and a few losses to the LibDems. Yougov has been coming up with Tory leads of 6%/7% for several months now so we have to be aware of a likely house effect in their data. Both major parties are down compared with 2017 - though Labour much more so. In a General Election I think it is unlikely the Greens would actually poll anything close to 4% - most would probably drift back to Labour in the course of the campaign. Without having looked at the tables, I also suspect there has been quite a shift from Labour to Don't Knows - and this too would be likely to be reversed were an election to be called.HYUFD said:
Yet the Tories have a 9% lead today under May and are on 40%, ratings Hague, IDS, Howard, even Cameron would have killed foranother_richard said:
How anyone with such a total lack of either leadership or people skills chose to become a politician, let alone reached PM, is beyond me.SeanT said:
Stewart is smart and personable (if oddly gaunt). The bitter irony is that TMay’s deal would have a much greater chance of passing if he were selling it, not her. That tweet by itself - making the deal and himself look like the sane centrist position - is cleverer than anything she has done.HYUFD said:
My hunch is that the deal will fall, and we willl get an extension, possibly a long one (because the EU is as terrified of No Deal as us). The Tories must surely then get a new leader who CAN sell a tweaked deal. The avowed Unionist Stewart would be a decent choice
Its not as if May even has any 'big ideas' she wanted to implement or even a desire to personally profit from political power.0 -
Ah Sunil, my yellow pen has been active today: High Wycombe to Aynho JunctionSunil_Prasannan said:
One rule for the Saxe-Coburgs Windsors, one rule for the plebs.HYUFD said:
Charles practices what he preaches, Highgrove is self sufficient on organic food and he tends to travel by train or car in the UK, Meghan Markle though is clearly used to Hollywood living and some of that is rubbing off on HarryTheScreamingEagles said:You can tell Prince Harry was raised by that degenerate and hypocrite Prince Charles.
https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/11041071354855219210 -
Hickenlooper is more likely to end up being a centrist third party candidate with Kasich in my view if a 'progressive' leftist like Sanders or Warren wins the Democratic nomination than being able to win the nomination himselfMikeSmithson said:For those betting on John Hickenlooper for WH2020 this is him appearing on NBC today facing tough questioning.
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Nepal is indeed wonderful.SeanT said:
Very astute. I’ve also noticed that the Nepalese have amazing teeth. Beautiful white American-type smiles, without the super expensive dentistry. Even the poorest (in a very poor country) generally have beautiful orthodontic smiles.Luckyguy1983 said:
Physical beauty is a sign of health. Obviously not in terms of coloration, but good facial development, high cheekbones, big enough jaws for teeth to sit perfectly, etc. are signs of a good diet over generations. Absence of refined sugar would probably be a good potential benefactor.SeanT said:
That’s where they come from tho. Like the tectonic plates beneath them, the Nepalese are a collision between north (steppes, Mongolia, winter) and south (India, Aryans, summer). The geological collision caused the enormous erection that is the Himalayas. The genetic collision...IanB2 said:
Nepal doesn't have any steppes.SeanT said:ON topic, I am in Nepal right now, doing a travel piece for The Times.
It’s a troubled country with amazing culture and horrible poverty and quite nice beer.
But my, oh my, what it does have is beautiful people. The men often look like young dashing Hussars, well built and athletic, the women are even better: generally exquisite, with a mix of sultry southern brown eyes, high Aryan cheekbones, and the rosy complexion of the steppes.
Having now travelled the entire world (apart from Moldova) I can now say with authority the best looking people in the world, on average, are the Nepalese.
They are also some of the poorest. There must be a profound lesson here, but I haven’t grasped it yet.
The only kids I met in the countryside who were eating sweets... were chewing stalks of pure sugar cane.
It’s a wonderful country (with lots of problems), with honest, loyal, friendly, handsome people, and I hope to return very soon to see the apparently amazing jungles. And on that note, I must really go to bed. Namaste, PB, Namaste.
Sometimes poor health can have physical signs.
However deciding that perfectly aligned teeth, high cheekbones, hairless kneecaps, or little fingers with precisely the feng-sui balance to the other fingers is just as bad a judging people by their skin colour. Nepalese people perhaps have good teeth, but the population is so young due to the death rate.
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Despite getting 40% in 2017, Jezza only won four more seats than Gordon did in 2010 on 29%.HYUFD said:
Cameron failed to achieve that 40% though in either 2010 or 2015 but won a majority in 2015 because of the large gap over Labour, hence it is better for May to be on 40% today and 9% ahead of Labour as minor parties eat into the Labour vote than the 42% she was on in 2017 and only 2% ahead of Labour.The_Taxman said:
Cameron achieved over 40% in the polls in 2008 and 2009 and it didn't do him much good as he failed to get an overall majority in 2010, nor did it do much good for May when she (The Tories) were 20 points plus ahead in 2017 and yet lost her overall majority .HYUFD said:
Yet the Tories have a 9% lead today under May and are on 40%, ratings Hague, IDS, Howard, even Cameron would have killed foranother_richard said:
How anyone with such a total lack of either leadership or people skills chose to become a politician, let alone reached PM, is beyond me.SeanT said:
Stewart is smart and personable (if oddly gaunt). The bitter irony is that TMay’s deal would have a much greater chance of passing if he were selling it, not her. That tweet by itself - making the deal and himself look like the sane centrist position - is cleverer than anything she has done.HYUFD said:
My hunch is that the deal will fall, and we willl get an extension, possibly a long one (because the EU is as terrified of No Deal as us). The Tories must surely then get a new leader who CAN sell a tweaked deal. The avowed Unionist Stewart would be a decent choice
Its not as if May even has any 'big ideas' she wanted to implement or even a desire to personally profit from political power.
All this shows is how gullible people are to believe them!
I also think comparing an opposition party after many years in power to a PM in power is also a fools errand. It is a completely different dynamic and if a moderate Labour leader was in situ I suspect we would be witnessing similar opinion polls to those in the run up to 1997, Labour would be on 50% plus!
You can make hypotheticals but we are where we are with Corbyn Labour leader and likely staying there and for the foreseeable future, of course the SDP reached over 50% in 1981 and if TIG takes off who knows what happen but for the moment they are still nowhere near that0 -
Indeed - though there is probably quite a bit of downside potential to the 9% lead - which itself is 2% lower than last week's Yougov figure.HYUFD said:
Even a Tory majority of 40 would be the largest Tory majority won at a general election for 32 yearsjustin124 said:
Though it would only produce a Tory majority of circa 40 with gains from Labour and a few losses to the LibDems. Yougov has been coming up with Tory leads of 6%/7% for several months now so we have to be aware of a likely house effect in their data. Both major parties are down compared with 2017 - though Labour much more so. In a General Election I think it is unlikely the Greens would actually poll anything close to 4% - most would probably drift back to Labour in the course of the campaign. Without having looked at the tables, I also suspect there has been quite a shift from Labour to Don't Knows - and this too would be likely to be reversed were an election to be called.HYUFD said:
Yet the Tories have a 9% lead today under May and are on 40%, ratings Hague, IDS, Howard, even Cameron would have killed foranother_richard said:
How anyone with such a total lack of either leadership or people skills chose to become a politician, let alone reached PM, is beyond me.SeanT said:
Stewart is smart and personable (if oddly gaunt). The bitter irony is that TMay’s deal would have a much greater chance of passing if he were selling it, not her. That tweet by itself - making the deal and himself look like the sane centrist position - is cleverer than anything she has done.HYUFD said:
My hunch is that the deal will fall, and we willl get an extension, possibly a long one (because the EU is as terrified of No Deal as us). The Tories must surely then get a new leader who CAN sell a tweaked deal. The avowed Unionist Stewart would be a decent choice
Its not as if May even has any 'big ideas' she wanted to implement or even a desire to personally profit from political power.0 -
Plus he won fewer seats than Kinnock did in 1992Sunil_Prasannan said:
Despite getting 40% in 2017, Jezza only won four more seats than Gordon did in 2010 on 29%.HYUFD said:
Cameron failed to achieve that 40% though in either 2010 or 2015 but won a majority in 2015 because of the large gap over Labour, hence it is better for May to be on 40% today and 9% ahead of Labour as minor parties eat into the Labour vote than the 42% she was on in 2017 and only 2% ahead of Labour.The_Taxman said:
Cameron achieved over 40% in the polls in 2008 and 2009 and it didn't do him much good as he failed to get an overall majority in 2010, nor did it do much good for May when she (The Tories) were 20 points plus ahead in 2017 and yet lost her overall majority .HYUFD said:
Yet the Tories have a 9% lead today under May and are on 40%, ratings Hague, IDS, Howard, even Cameron would have killed foranother_richard said:
How anyone with such a total lack of either leadership or people skills chose to become a politician, let alone reached PM, is beyond me.SeanT said:
Stewart is smart and personable (if oddly gaunt). The bitter irony is that TMay’s deal would have a much greater chance of passing if he were selling it, not her. That tweet by itself - making the deal and himself look like the sane centrist position - is cleverer than anything she has done.HYUFD said:
My hunch is that the deal will fall, and we willl get an extension, possibly a long one (because the EU is as terrified of No Deal as us). The Tories must surely then get a new leader who CAN sell a tweaked deal. The avowed Unionist Stewart would be a decent choice
Its not as if May even has any 'big ideas' she wanted to implement or even a desire to personally profit from political power.
All this shows is how gullible people are to believe them!
I also think comparing an opposition party after many years in power to a PM in power is also a fools errand. It is a completely different dynamic and if a moderate Labour leader was in situ I suspect we would be witnessing similar opinion polls to those in the run up to 1997, Labour would be on 50% plus!
You can make hypotheticals but we are where we are with Corbyn Labour leader and likely staying there and for the foreseeable future, of course the SDP reached over 50% in 1981 and if TIG takes off who knows what happen but for the moment they are still nowhere near that0 -
It all depends on whether minor party voters go back to Labour or notjustin124 said:
Indeed - though there is probably quite a bit of downside potential to the 9% lead - which itself is 2% lower than last week's Yougov figure.HYUFD said:
Even a Tory majority of 40 would be the largest Tory majority won at a general election for 32 yearsjustin124 said:
Though it would only produce a Tory majority of circa 40 with gains from Labour and a few losses to the LibDems. Yougov has been coming up with Tory leads of 6%/7% for several months now so we have to be aware of a likely house effect in their data. Both major parties are down compared with 2017 - though Labour much more so. In a General Election I think it is unlikely the Greens would actually poll anything close to 4% - most would probably drift back to Labour in the course of the campaign. Without having looked at the tables, I also suspect there has been quite a shift from Labour to Don't Knows - and this too would be likely to be reversed were an election to be called.HYUFD said:
Yet the Tories have a 9% lead today under May and are on 40%, ratings Hague, IDS, Howard, even Cameron would have killed foranother_richard said:
How anyone with such a total lack of either leadership or people skills chose to become a politician, let alone reached PM, is beyond me.SeanT said:
Stewart is smart and personable (if oddly gaunt). The bitter irony is that TMay’s deal would have a much greater chance of passing if he were selling it, not her. That tweet by itself - making the deal and himself look like the sane centrist position - is cleverer than anything she has done.HYUFD said:
My hunch is that the deal will fall, and we willl get an extension, possibly a long one (because the EU is as terrified of No Deal as us). The Tories must surely then get a new leader who CAN sell a tweaked deal. The avowed Unionist Stewart would be a decent choice
Its not as if May even has any 'big ideas' she wanted to implement or even a desire to personally profit from political power.0 -
Though he did win quite a few more in England & Wales .Sunil_Prasannan said:
Despite getting 40% in 2017, Jezza only won four more seats than Gordon did in 2010 on 29%.HYUFD said:
Cameron failed to achieve that 40% though in either 2010 or 2015 but won a majority in 2015 because of the large gap over Labour, hence it is better for May to be on 40% today and 9% ahead of Labour as minor parties eat into the Labour vote than the 42% she was on in 2017 and only 2% ahead of Labour.The_Taxman said:
Cameron achieved over 40% in the polls in 2008 and 2009 and it didn't do him much good as he failed to get an overall majority in 2010, nor did it do much good for May when she (The Tories) were 20 points plus ahead in 2017 and yet lost her overall majority .HYUFD said:
Yet the Tories have a 9% lead today under May and are on 40%, ratings Hague, IDS, Howard, even Cameron would have killed foranother_richard said:
How anyone with such a total lack of either leadership or people skills chose to become a politician, let alone reached PM, is beyond me.SeanT said:
Stewart is smart and personable (if oddly gaunt). The bitter irony is that TMay’s deal would have a much greater chance of passing if he were selling it, not her. That tweet by itself - making the deal and himself look like the sane centrist position - is cleverer than anything she has done.HYUFD said:
My hunch is that the deal will fall, and we willl get an extension, possibly a long one (because the EU is as terrified of No Deal as us). The Tories must surely then get a new leader who CAN sell a tweaked deal. The avowed Unionist Stewart would be a decent choice
Its not as if May even has any 'big ideas' she wanted to implement or even a desire to personally profit from political power.
All this shows is how gullible people are to believe them!
I also think comparing an opposition party after many years in power to a PM in power is also a fools errand. It is a completely different dynamic and if a moderate Labour leader was in situ I suspect we would be witnessing similar opinion polls to those in the run up to 1997, Labour would be on 50% plus!
You can make hypotheticals but we are where we are with Corbyn Labour leader and likely staying there and for the foreseeable future, of course the SDP reached over 50% in 1981 and if TIG takes off who knows what happen but for the moment they are still nowhere near that0 -
I suspect there is quite a pool of Don't Knows who are likely to respond to Corbyn's campaigning skills.HYUFD said:
It all depends on whether minor party voters go back to Labour or notjustin124 said:
Indeed - though there is probably quite a bit of downside potential to the 9% lead - which itself is 2% lower than last week's Yougov figure.HYUFD said:
Even a Tory majority of 40 would be the largest Tory majority won at a general election for 32 yearsjustin124 said:
Though it would only produce a Tory majority of circa 40 with gains from Labour and a few losses to the LibDems. Yougov has been coming up with Tory leads of 6%/7% for several months now so we have to be aware of a likely house effect in their data. Both major parties are down compared with 2017 - though Labour much more so. In a General Election I think it is unlikely the Greens would actually poll anything close to 4% - most would probably drift back to Labour in the course of the campaign. Without having looked at the tables, I also suspect there has been quite a shift from Labour to Don't Knows - and this too would be likely to be reversed were an election to be called.HYUFD said:
Yet the Tories have a 9% lead today under May and are on 40%, ratings Hague, IDS, Howard, even Cameron would have killed foranother_richard said:
How anyone with such a total lack of either leadership or people skills chose to become a politician, let alone reached PM, is beyond me.SeanT said:
Stewart is smart and personable (if oddly gaunt). The bitter irony is that TMay’s deal would have a much greater chance of passing if he were selling it, not her. That tweet by itself - making the deal and himself look like the sane centrist position - is cleverer than anything she has done.HYUFD said:
My hunch is that the deal will fall, and we willl get an extension, possibly a long one (because the EU is as terrified of No Deal as us). The Tories must surely then get a new leader who CAN sell a tweaked deal. The avowed Unionist Stewart would be a decent choice
Its not as if May even has any 'big ideas' she wanted to implement or even a desire to personally profit from political power.0 -
She’s a self-entitled, lazy bint who didn’t like the positive coverage Meghan was getting.HYUFD said:
She is a shrewd operator no doubtCharles said:
Behind the scenes there has been some extremely aggressive press work by the Duchess of CambridgeHYUFD said:
Yes, early last year there was even talk of 'Harry for King' that has largely disappeared and the Cambridges and their more traditional approach is back ahead of the Sussexes and Meghan's A List lifestyle, epitomised by that extremely expensive baby shower she had with the Clooneys.SeanT said:
Harry is likeable. His wife is beautiful. But he is in grave danger of fucking his USPHYUFD said:
Charles practices what he preaches, Highgrove is self sufficient on organic food and he tends to travel by train or car in the UK, Meghan Markle though is clearly used to Hollywood living and some of that is rubbing off on HarryTheScreamingEagles said:You can tell Prince Harry was raised by that degenerate and hypocrite Prince Charles.
https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1104107135485521921
And on that note I must abed. My last full day in Kathmandu tomorrow and I am scheduled to meet a living goddess (the Kumari) at 9.30am
Can anyone beat that as an excuse?
Night night
Enjoy your last day in Kathmandu
It’s been an orchestrated take down and very unedifying to watch.
(I must stress that I don’t particularly follow this aspect of public life, but my wife gives me regular updates on the latest palace gossip)0 -
Omnium said:
Nepal is indeed wonderful.SeanT said:
Very astute. I’ve also noticed that the Nepalese have amazing teeth. Beautiful white American-type smiles, without the super expensive dentistry. Even the poorest (in a very poor country) generally have beautiful orthodontic smiles.Luckyguy1983 said:
Physical beauty is a sign of health. Obviously not in terms of coloration, but good facial development, high cheekbones, big enough jaws for teeth to sit perfectly, etc. are signs of a good diet over generations. Absence of refined sugar would probably be a good potential benefactor.SeanT said:
That’s where they come from tho. Like the tectonic plates beneath them, the Nepalese are a collision between north (steppes, Mongolia, winter) and south (India, Aryans, summer). The geological collision caused the enormous erection that is the Himalayas. The genetic collision...IanB2 said:
Nepal doesn't have any steppes.SeanT said:ON topic, I am in Nepal right now, doing a travel piece for The Times.
It’s a troubled country with amazing culture and horrible poverty and quite nice beer.
But my, oh my, what it does have is beautiful people. The men often look like young dashing Hussars, well built and athletic, the women are even better: generally exquisite, with a mix of sultry southern brown eyes, high Aryan cheekbones, and the rosy complexion of the steppes.
Having now travelled the entire world (apart from Moldova) I can now say with authority the best looking people in the world, on average, are the Nepalese.
They are also some of the poorest. There must be a profound lesson here, but I haven’t grasped it yet.
The only kids I met in the countryside who were eating sweets... were chewing stalks of pure sugar cane.
It’s a wonderful country (with lots of problems), with honest, loyal, friendly, handsome people, and I hope to return very soon to see the apparently amazing jungles. And on that note, I must really go to bed. Namaste, PB, Namaste.
Sometimes poor health can have physical signs.
However deciding that perfectly aligned teeth, high cheekbones, hairless kneecaps, or little fingers with precisely the feng-sui balance to the other fingers is just as bad a judging people by their skin colour. Nepalese people perhaps have good teeth, but the population is so young due to the death rate.
Nepalese life expectancy is about 71 (and rising fast). It is higher than some neighboring countries (despite being poorer). They get their 3 score years and 10. Plus 1.
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No I don’t! Standard premier for me tonight!SandyRentool said:
Travel by train - he's got a whole private train to himself!HYUFD said:
Charles practices what he preaches, Highgrove is self sufficient on organic food and he tends to travel by train or car in the UK, Meghan Markle though is clearly used to Hollywood living and some of that is rubbing off on HarryTheScreamingEagles said:You can tell Prince Harry was raised by that degenerate and hypocrite Prince Charles.
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The palace is also heavily invested in William and Kate. The top brass are not stupid: they know the best chances for the survival of the monarchy are in presenting William and Kate as dutiful, likeable family-focussed people. They know that the public will never truly warm to Charles and they need his reign to have an air of the interim around it, before the true future of the monarchy steps up. In many ways the family image that William and Kate have built up is reminiscent of the image the Queen tried to cultivate in the 60s and 70s.HYUFD said:
She is a shrewd operator no doubtCharles said:
Behind the scenes there has been some extremely aggressive press work by the Duchess of CambridgeHYUFD said:
Yes, early last year there was even talk of 'Harry for King' that has largely disappeared and the Cambridges and their more traditional approach is back ahead of the Sussexes and Meghan's A List lifestyle, epitomised by that extremely expensive baby shower she had with the Clooneys.SeanT said:
Harry is likeable. His wife is beautiful. But he is in grave danger of fucking his USPHYUFD said:
Charles practices what he preaches, Highgrove is self sufficient on organic food and he tends to travel by train or car in the UK, Meghan Markle though is clearly used to Hollywood living and some of that is rubbing off on HarryTheScreamingEagles said:You can tell Prince Harry was raised by that degenerate and hypocrite Prince Charles.
https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1104107135485521921
And on that note I must abed. My last full day in Kathmandu tomorrow and I am scheduled to meet a living goddess (the Kumari) at 9.30am
Can anyone beat that as an excuse?
Night night
Enjoy your last day in Kathmandu
They couldn’t have denied Harry his bride: we saw how Margaret and Charles troubles on that front impacted on the monarchy. But methinks they don’t care too much about the resulting fallout. If anything it stands in contrast to the golden couple who they are trying to present as the perfect King and Queen.0 -
You know full well that the Nepalese man that you meet and judge to be 60 will in fact be 40.SeanT said:Omnium said:
Nepal is indeed wonderful.SeanT said:
Very astute. I’ve also noticed that the Nepalese have amazing teeth. Beautiful white American-type smiles, without the super expensive dentistry. Even the poorest (in a very poor country) generally have beautiful orthodontic smiles.Luckyguy1983 said:
Physical beauty is a sign of health. Obviously not in terms of coloration, but good facial development, high cheekbones, big enough jaws for teeth to sit perfectly, etc. are signs of a good diet over generations. Absence of refined sugar would probably be a good potential benefactor.SeanT said:
That’s where they come from tho. Like the tectonic plates beneath them, the Nepalese are a collision between north (steppes, Mongolia, winter) and south (India, Aryans, summer). The geological collision caused the enormous erection that is the Himalayas. The genetic collision...IanB2 said:
Nepal doesn't have any steppes.SeanT said:ON topic, I am in Nepal right now, doing a travel piece for The Times.
It’s a troubled country with amazing culture and horrible poverty and quite nice beer.
But my, oh my, what it does have is beautiful people. The men often look like young dashing Hussars, well built and athletic, the women are even better: generally exquisite, with a mix of sultry southern brown eyes, high Aryan cheekbones, and the rosy complexion of the steppes.
Having now travelled the entire world (apart from Moldova) I can now say with authority the best looking people in the world, on average, are the Nepalese.
They are also some of the poorest. There must be a profound lesson here, but I haven’t grasped it yet.
The only kids I met in the countryside who were eating sweets... were chewing stalks of pure sugar cane.
It’s a wonderful country (with lots of problems), with honest, loyal, friendly, handsome people, and I hope to return very soon to see the apparently amazing jungles. And on that note, I must really go to bed. Namaste, PB, Namaste.
Sometimes poor health can have physical signs.
However deciding that perfectly aligned teeth, high cheekbones, hairless kneecaps, or little fingers with precisely the feng-sui balance to the other fingers is just as bad a judging people by their skin colour. Nepalese people perhaps have good teeth, but the population is so young due to the death rate.
Nepalese life expectancy is about 71 (and rising fast). It is higher than some neighboring countries (despite being poorer). They get their 3 score years and 10. Plus 1.
You're seeing white teeth because they are young teeth.
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[waving to @HYUFD ]numbertwelve said:
The palace is also heavily invested in William and Kate. The top brass are not stupid: they know the best chances for the survival of the monarchy are in presenting William and Kate as dutiful, likeable family-focussed people. They know that the public will never truly warm to Charles and they need his reign to have an air of the interim around it, before the true future of the monarchy steps up. In many ways the family image that William and Kate have built up is reminiscent of the image the Queen tried to cultivate in the 60s and 70s.HYUFD said:
She is a shrewd operator no doubtCharles said:
Behind the scenes there has been some extremely aggressive press work by the Duchess of CambridgeHYUFD said:
Yes, early last year there was even talk of 'Harry for King' that has largely disappeared and the Cambridges and their more traditional approach is back ahead of the Sussexes and Meghan's A List lifestyle, epitomised by that extremely expensive baby shower she had with the Clooneys.SeanT said:
Harry is likeable. His wife is beautiful. But he is in grave danger of fucking his USPHYUFD said:
Charles practices what he preaches, Highgrove is self sufficient on organic food and he tends to travel by train or car in the UK, Meghan Markle though is clearly used to Hollywood living and some of that is rubbing off on HarryTheScreamingEagles said:You can tell Prince Harry was raised by that degenerate and hypocrite Prince Charles.
https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1104107135485521921
And on that note I must abed. My last full day in Kathmandu tomorrow and I am scheduled to meet a living goddess (the Kumari) at 9.30am
Can anyone beat that as an excuse?
Night night
Enjoy your last day in Kathmandu
They couldn’t have denied Harry his bride: we saw how Margaret and Charles troubles on that front impacted on the monarchy. But methinks they don’t care too much about the resulting fallout. If anything it stands in contrast to the golden couple who they are trying to present as the perfect King and Queen.
Socialism = jobs for life
Monarchy = jobs for life
therefore
Monarchy = Socialism
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Is that backwards reasoning? Does health define beauty, instead of beauty betokening health? Black teeth is considered beautiful in geisha, iirc. Modern western standards of beauty now encompass overlarge breasts in women and unfeasibly large muscles in men, neither of which can be realistically achieved without drugs or surgery. Foot-binding is excruciatingly unhealthy. Face tattoos are difficult to defend as healthy but are on the rise. Lip implants can be grotesque. Heroin chic and anorexia have been held up as beautifulLuckyguy1983 said:
Physical beauty is a sign of health. Obviously not in terms of coloration, but good facial development, high cheekbones, big enough jaws for teeth to sit perfectly, etc. are signs of a good diet over generations. Absence of refined sugar would probably be a good potential benefactor.SeanT said:
That’s where they come from tho. Like the tectonic plates beneath them, the Nepalese are a collision between north (steppes, Mongolia, winter) and south (India, Aryans, summer). The geological collision caused the enormous erection that is the Himalayas. The genetic collision...IanB2 said:
Nepal doesn't have any steppes.SeanT said:ON topic, I am in Nepal right now, doing a travel piece for The Times.
It’s a troubled country with amazing culture and horrible poverty and quite nice beer.
But my, oh my, what it does have is beautiful people. The men often look like young dashing Hussars, well built and athletic, the women are even better: generally exquisite, with a mix of sultry southern brown eyes, high Aryan cheekbones, and the rosy complexion of the steppes.
Having now travelled the entire world (apart from Moldova) I can now say with authority the best looking people in the world, on average, are the Nepalese.
They are also some of the poorest. There must be a profound lesson here, but I haven’t grasped it yet.
(Sorry I'm not sure I'm making a coherent point here: it's just that a lot of beauty procedures are unhealthy or evocative of ill-health)0 -
Is there anyone who actually finds a Trout Pout attractive? I just find it rather odd.viewcode said:
Is that backwards reasoning? Does health define beauty, instead of beauty betokening health? Black teeth is considered beautiful in geisha, iirc. Modern western standards of beauty now encompass overlarge breasts in women and unfeasibly large muscles in men, neither of which can be realistically achieved without drugs or surgery. Foot-binding is excruciatingly unhealthy. Face tattoos are difficult to defend as healthy but are on the rise. Lip implants can be grotesque. Heroin chic and anorexia have been held up as beautifulLuckyguy1983 said:
Physical beauty is a sign of health. Obviously not in terms of coloration, but good facial development, high cheekbones, big enough jaws for teeth to sit perfectly, etc. are signs of a good diet over generations. Absence of refined sugar would probably be a good potential benefactor.SeanT said:
That’s where they come from tho. Like the tectonic plates beneath them, the Nepalese are a collision between north (steppes, Mongolia, winter) and south (India, Aryans, summer). The geological collision caused the enormous erection that is the Himalayas. The genetic collision...IanB2 said:
Nepal doesn't have any steppes.SeanT said:ON topic, I am in Nepal right now, doing a travel piece for The Times.
It’s a troubled country with amazing culture and horrible poverty and quite nice beer.
But my, oh my, what it does have is beautiful people. The men often look like young dashing Hussars, well built and athletic, the women are even better: generally exquisite, with a mix of sultry southern brown eyes, high Aryan cheekbones, and the rosy complexion of the steppes.
Having now travelled the entire world (apart from Moldova) I can now say with authority the best looking people in the world, on average, are the Nepalese.
They are also some of the poorest. There must be a profound lesson here, but I haven’t grasped it yet.
(Sorry I'm not sure I'm making a coherent point here: it's just that a lot of beauty procedures are unhealthy or evocative of ill-health)0 -
Doubt the marriage of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex will last more than five years... It never works out well when the Royals get involved with the American's...numbertwelve said:
The palace is also heavily invested in William and Kate. The top brass are not stupid: they know the best chances for the survival of the monarchy are in presenting William and Kate as dutiful, likeable family-focussed people. They know that the public will never truly warm to Charles and they need his reign to have an air of the interim around it, before the true future of the monarchy steps up. In many ways the family image that William and Kate have built up is reminiscent of the image the Queen tried to cultivate in the 60s and 70s.HYUFD said:
She is a shrewd operator no doubtCharles said:
Behind the scenes there has been some extremely aggressive press work by the Duchess of CambridgeHYUFD said:
Yes, early last year there was even talk of 'Harry for King' that has largely disappeared and the Cambridges and their more traditional approach is back ahead of the Sussexes and Meghan's A List lifestyle, epitomised by that extremely expensive baby shower she had with the Clooneys.SeanT said:
Harry is likeable. His wife is beautiful. But he is in grave danger of fucking his USPHYUFD said:
Charles practices what he preaches, Highgrove is self sufficient on organic food and he tends to travel by train or car in the UK, Meghan Markle though is clearly used to Hollywood living and some of that is rubbing off on HarryTheScreamingEagles said:You can tell Prince Harry was raised by that degenerate and hypocrite Prince Charles.
https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1104107135485521921
And on that note I must abed. My last full day in Kathmandu tomorrow and I am scheduled to meet a living goddess (the Kumari) at 9.30am
Can anyone beat that as an excuse?
Night night
Enjoy your last day in Kathmandu
They couldn’t have denied Harry his bride: we saw how Margaret and Charles troubles on that front impacted on the monarchy. But methinks they don’t care too much about the resulting fallout. If anything it stands in contrast to the golden couple who they are trying to present as the perfect King and Queen.
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I have friends who get hugely horny when it's attached to a trout.SandyRentool said:
Is there anyone who actually finds a Trout Pout attractive? I just find it rather odd.viewcode said:
Is that backwards reasoning? Does health define beauty, instead of beauty betokening health? Black teeth is considered beautiful in geisha, iirc. Modern western standards of beauty now encompass overlarge breasts in women and unfeasibly large muscles in men, neither of which can be realistically achieved without drugs or surgery. Foot-binding is excruciatingly unhealthy. Face tattoos are difficult to defend as healthy but are on the rise. Lip implants can be grotesque. Heroin chic and anorexia have been held up as beautifulLuckyguy1983 said:
Physical beauty is a sign of health. Obviously not in terms of coloration, but good facial development, high cheekbones, big enough jaws for teeth to sit perfectly, etc. are signs of a good diet over generations. Absence of refined sugar would probably be a good potential benefactor.SeanT said:
That’s where they come from tho. Like the tectonic plates beneath them, the Nepalese are a collision between north (steppes, Mongolia, winter) and south (India, Aryans, summer). The geological collision caused the enormous erection that is the Himalayas. The genetic collision...IanB2 said:
Nepal doesn't have any steppes.SeanT said:ON topic, I am in Nepal right now, doing a travel piece for The Times.
It’s a troubled country with amazing culture and horrible poverty and quite nice beer.
But my, oh my, what it does have is beautiful people. The men often look like young dashing Hussars, well built and athletic, the women are even better: generally exquisite, with a mix of sultry southern brown eyes, high Aryan cheekbones, and the rosy complexion of the steppes.
Having now travelled the entire world (apart from Moldova) I can now say with authority the best looking people in the world, on average, are the Nepalese.
They are also some of the poorest. There must be a profound lesson here, but I haven’t grasped it yet.
(Sorry I'm not sure I'm making a coherent point here: it's just that a lot of beauty procedures are unhealthy or evocative of ill-health)0 -
Traditional beauty is for healthy markers.viewcode said:
Is that backwards reasoning? Does health define beauty, instead of beauty betokening health? Black teeth is considered beautiful in geisha, iirc. Modern western standards of beauty now encompass overlarge breasts in women and unfeasibly large muscles in men, neither of which can be realistically achieved without drugs or surgery. Foot-binding is excruciatingly unhealthy. Face tattoos are difficult to defend as healthy but are on the rise. Lip implants can be grotesque. Heroin chic and anorexia have been held up as beautifulLuckyguy1983 said:
Physical beauty is a sign of health. Obviously not in terms of coloration, but good facial development, high cheekbones, big enough jaws for teeth to sit perfectly, etc. are signs of a good diet over generations. Absence of refined sugar would probably be a good potential benefactor.SeanT said:
That’s where they come from tho. Like the tectonic plates beneath them, the Nepalese are a collision between north (steppes, Mongolia, winter) and south (India, Aryans, summer). The geological collision caused the enormous erection that is the Himalayas. The genetic collision...IanB2 said:
Nepal doesn't have any steppes.SeanT said:ON topic, I am in Nepal right now, doing a travel piece for The Times.
It’s a troubled country with amazing culture and horrible poverty and quite nice beer.
But my, oh my, what it does have is beautiful people. The men often look like young dashing Hussars, well built and athletic, the women are even better: generally exquisite, with a mix of sultry southern brown eyes, high Aryan cheekbones, and the rosy complexion of the steppes.
Having now travelled the entire world (apart from Moldova) I can now say with authority the best looking people in the world, on average, are the Nepalese.
They are also some of the poorest. There must be a profound lesson here, but I haven’t grasped it yet.
(Sorry I'm not sure I'm making a coherent point here: it's just that a lot of beauty procedures are unhealthy or evocative of ill-health)
Fads are different. And no trout pouts are off-putting not attractive.0 -
Well you should very much keep it to yourself, Charles.Charles said:
She’s a self-entitled, lazy bint who didn’t like the positive coverage Meghan was getting.HYUFD said:
She is a shrewd operator no doubtCharles said:
Behind the scenes there has been some extremely aggressive press work by the Duchess of CambridgeHYUFD said:
Yes, early last year there was even talk of 'Harry for King' that has largely disappeared and the Cambridges and their more traditional approach is back ahead of the Sussexes and Meghan's A List lifestyle, epitomised by that extremely expensive baby shower she had with the Clooneys.SeanT said:
Harry is likeable. His wife is beautiful. But he is in grave danger of fucking his USPHYUFD said:
Charles practices what he preaches, Highgrove is self sufficient on organic food and he tends to travel by train or car in the UK, Meghan Markle though is clearly used to Hollywood living and some of that is rubbing off on HarryTheScreamingEagles said:You can tell Prince Harry was raised by that degenerate and hypocrite Prince Charles.
https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1104107135485521921
And on that note I must abed. My last full day in Kathmandu tomorrow and I am scheduled to meet a living goddess (the Kumari) at 9.30am
Can anyone beat that as an excuse?
Night night
Enjoy your last day in Kathmandu
It’s been an orchestrated take down and very unedifying to watch.
(I must stress that I don’t particularly follow this aspect of public life, but my wife gives me regular updates on the latest palace gossip)0 -
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The Windsors were married for 30-odd years, and that only ended when the Duke died.GIN1138 said:
Doubt the marriage of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex will last more than five years... It never works out well when the Royals get involved with the American's...numbertwelve said:
The palace is also heavily invested in William and Kate. The top brass are not stupid: they know the best chances for the survival of the monarchy are in presenting William and Kate as dutiful, likeable family-focussed people. They know that the public will never truly warm to Charles and they need his reign to have an air of the interim around it, before the true future of the monarchy steps up. In many ways the family image that William and Kate have built up is reminiscent of the image the Queen tried to cultivate in the 60s and 70s.HYUFD said:
She is a shrewd operator no doubtCharles said:
Behind the scenes there has been some extremely aggressive press work by the Duchess of CambridgeHYUFD said:
Yes, early last year there was even talk of 'Harry for King' that has largely disappeared and the Cambridges and their more traditional approach is back ahead of the Sussexes and Meghan's A List lifestyle, epitomised by that extremely expensive baby shower she had with the Clooneys.SeanT said:
Harry is likeable. His wife is beautiful. But he is in grave danger of fucking his USPHYUFD said:
Charles practices what he preaches, Highgrove is self sufficient on organic food and he tends to travel by train or car in the UK, Meghan Markle though is clearly used to Hollywood living and some of that is rubbing off on HarryTheScreamingEagles said:You can tell Prince Harry was raised by that degenerate and hypocrite Prince Charles.
https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1104107135485521921
And on that note I must abed. My last full day in Kathmandu tomorrow and I am scheduled to meet a living goddess (the Kumari) at 9.30am
Can anyone beat that as an excuse?
Night night
Enjoy your last day in Kathmandu
They couldn’t have denied Harry his bride: we saw how Margaret and Charles troubles on that front impacted on the monarchy. But methinks they don’t care too much about the resulting fallout. If anything it stands in contrast to the golden couple who they are trying to present as the perfect King and Queen.0 -
Mrs May in Grimsby summed up the whole miserable business perfectly. All we needed was a guest appearance by Sacha Baron Cohen.Scott_P said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIa-2qQxubM0 -
I will watch those repeats of The Good Life in a different light, thinking that Tom is an anti-semite.....Scrapheap_as_was said:0 -
I’m just a bloke posting on a niche website. What do my opinions matter?TOPPING said:
Well you should very much keep it to yourself, Charles.Charles said:
She’s a self-entitled, lazy bint who didn’t like the positive coverage Meghan was getting.HYUFD said:
She is a shrewd operator no doubtCharles said:
Behind the scenes there has been some extremely aggressive press work by the Duchess of CambridgeHYUFD said:
Yes, early last year there was even talk of 'Harry for King' that has largely disappeared and the Cambridges and their more traditional approach is back ahead of the Sussexes and Meghan's A List lifestyle, epitomised by that extremely expensive baby shower she had with the Clooneys.SeanT said:
Harry is likeable. His wife is beautiful. But he is in grave danger of fucking his USPHYUFD said:
Charles practices what he preaches, Highgrove is self sufficient on organic food and he tends to travel by train or car in the UK, Meghan Markle though is clearly used to Hollywood living and some of that is rubbing off on HarryTheScreamingEagles said:You can tell Prince Harry was raised by that degenerate and hypocrite Prince Charles.
https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1104107135485521921
And on that note I must abed. My last full day in Kathmandu tomorrow and I am scheduled to meet a living goddess (the Kumari) at 9.30am
Can anyone beat that as an excuse?
Night night
Enjoy your last day in Kathmandu
It’s been an orchestrated take down and very unedifying to watch.
(I must stress that I don’t particularly follow this aspect of public life, but my wife gives me regular updates on the latest palace gossip)0 -
Deutschland 86, sequel to Deutschland 83, just started on More40
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Evening all
It seems the mood is ratcheting up before the votes next week. The Cabinet are already getting out the "it's all the Europeans fault" line and all Barnier proposed was separating Ulster from the rest of the UK which, let's be honest, most people outside Ulster would probably not care too much about.
The poor workers forced to sit through the May diatribe are the ones I feel sorry for - it disgusts me Conservative-supporting employers should treat their workers so badly, how would the Board of Directors like to listen to Jeremy Corbyn for an hour? It's torture in all but name.
Short of something miraculous, the WA voted down so convincingly in mid January is basically the same document being put to the same people next Tuesday. May continues to peddle her absurd Project Fear at this late stage - perhaps she should threaten to resign if the WA is passed as that would cause a number of MPs a real dilemma.0
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