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https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/1103417108313096192glw said:
Ridiculous. A proper old-school United win, Solskjær has to get the job now surely.Benpointer said:Oh man - what a game!!!
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I’m probably in a minority, but that is a penalty for me. The defender looks at the flight of the ball and lets his arm get in its path. I think it’s the right decision.
Extraordinary game.0 -
He's an MP looking to honour the referendum result.oxfordsimon said:
He's looking to prevent the disaster of No Deal, something Leavers said wouldn't happen/is Project Fear.0 -
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So is the PB consensus if Brexit gets delayed for more than 3 months then Brexit will never happen?0
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Yes, I hadn’t realised that statistic - it’s actuslly an all-time record (I.e includes European Cup before it became the Champions’ League)Big_G_NorthWales said:
As my son said - wow wow wow.Benpointer said:Oh man - what a game!!!
First time ever in European Champions league history a team losing 2 - 0 at home in the first leg have progressed, and lets not forget this PSG
And 10 first teamers missing through injury0 -
Mercer is a foul mouthed kerntScott_P said:0 -
Quite incredible. And I nearly didn't bother watching!Big_G_NorthWales said:
As my son said - wow wow wow.Benpointer said:Oh man - what a game!!!
First time ever in European Champions league history a team losing 2 - 0 at home in the first leg have progressed, and lets not forget this PSG
And 10 first teamers missing through injury0 -
I remember when Martin Day caused widespread mirth by depicting Nick Clegg being mounted by a baboon.TheScreamingEagles said:
The Brexiteer Mickey Fab.kle4 said:
Which one? I'm shocked I have not heard of this.Chris said:Just out of curiosity, has any Labour MP ever endorsed a depiction of a prominent Jewish politician being buggered by a pig?
A prominent Tory MP has endorsed a depiction of a prominent Muslim politician being buggered by a pig. And guess what. He's still a prominent Tory MP.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/13/tory-mp-apologises-for-tweet-of-sadiq-khan-image-with-pig-balloon0 -
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No - he is looking to overturn the referendum result. There is nothing in his behaviour about honouring it.TheScreamingEagles said:
He's an MP looking to honour the referendum result.oxfordsimon said:
He's looking to prevent the disaster of No Deal, something Leavers said wouldn't happen/is Project Fear.0 -
#rattledoxfordsimon said:0 -
Looks like itTheScreamingEagles said:So is the PB consensus if Brexit gets delayed for more than 3 months then Brexit will never happen?
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He's an elected MP in a sovereign parliament.oxfordsimon said:0 -
He's unwilling to tolerate any Brexit, not just No Deal. That's the opposite of honouring the result.TheScreamingEagles said:
He's an MP looking to honour the referendum result.oxfordsimon said:
He's looking to prevent the disaster of No Deal, something Leavers said wouldn't happen/is Project Fear.0 -
You're getting him mixed up with Caroline Spelman, Nick Boles and LetwinTheScreamingEagles said:
He's an MP looking to honour the referendum result.oxfordsimon said:
He's looking to prevent the disaster of No Deal, something Leavers said wouldn't happen/is Project Fear.0 -
Cannot argue with thatScott_P said:0 -
It only gets overturned if enough people have changed their minds.oxfordsimon said:
No - he is looking to overturn the referendum result. There is nothing in his behaviour about honouring it.TheScreamingEagles said:
He's an MP looking to honour the referendum result.oxfordsimon said:
He's looking to prevent the disaster of No Deal, something Leavers said wouldn't happen/is Project Fear.0 -
An amazing result, and Lukaku has been brilliant the last few matches.Big_G_NorthWales said:
As my son said - wow wow wow.Benpointer said:Oh man - what a game!!!
First time ever in European Champions league history a team losing 2 - 0 at home in the first leg have progressed, and lets not forget this PSG
And 10 first teamers missing through injury
This is what United used to be like, always capable of turning a loss into a draw, or draw into a win. I generally think clubs are far too quick to fire managers, but bloody hell it has worked, and by chance United have maybe found what they were missing with their caretaker manager.0 -
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Many many happy memories over the years watching United play the United wayglw said:
An amazing result, and Lukaku has been brilliant the last few matches.Big_G_NorthWales said:
As my son said - wow wow wow.Benpointer said:Oh man - what a game!!!
First time ever in European Champions league history a team losing 2 - 0 at home in the first leg have progressed, and lets not forget this PSG
And 10 first teamers missing through injury
This is what United used to be like, always capable of turning a loss into a draw, or draw into a win. I generally think clubs are far too quick to fire managers, but bloody hell it has worked, and by chance United have maybe found what they were missing with their caretaker manager.0 -
How is he any different from Leave backing MPs who have said Remaining is better than Mrs May's deal?Sean_F said:
He's unwilling to tolerate any Brexit, not just No Deal. That's the opposite of honouring the result.TheScreamingEagles said:
He's an MP looking to honour the referendum result.oxfordsimon said:
He's looking to prevent the disaster of No Deal, something Leavers said wouldn't happen/is Project Fear.0 -
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Not in the slightest.PeterMannion said:
#rattledoxfordsimon said:
I voted to Remain - and believe that the referendum should still be honoured.0 -
Brexit will not happen. Well done - you won. We were offered a vote, but well, most MPs had no real intention of honouring it. Remain kicked and screamed and sulked and sabotaged, and, well, looks like we're stuck in the EU now.TheScreamingEagles said:So is the PB consensus if Brexit gets delayed for more than 3 months then Brexit will never happen?
I can't really be arsed voting again.0 -
Ah who the hell knows any more.TheScreamingEagles said:So is the PB consensus if Brexit gets delayed for more than 3 months then Brexit will never happen?
But since you asked...depends what the extension would be used for.
Used for a second referendum...remain probably wins, we stay in.
Used for a GE, Conservatives probably win,we do all this again unless they can get a semi-decent majority.0 -
Only, in that he is more intelligent. He understands that he is preventing Brexit. They haven't yet worked out that they are doing so.TheScreamingEagles said:
How is he any different from Leave backing MPs who have said Remaining is better than Mrs May's deal?Sean_F said:
He's unwilling to tolerate any Brexit, not just No Deal. That's the opposite of honouring the result.TheScreamingEagles said:
He's an MP looking to honour the referendum result.oxfordsimon said:
He's looking to prevent the disaster of No Deal, something Leavers said wouldn't happen/is Project Fear.0 -
Here you go:oxfordsimon said:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominic_Grieve
And who are you ?
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https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1103420437776744450
I know this is serious and all but "everything is going to be shit" is like the anti-Lego movie.0 -
So does everyone agree that because he is still a Tory MP, Theresa May is obviously a big Islamophobe and is facilitating Islamophobia in the Tory party?TheScreamingEagles said:
The Brexiteer Mickey Fab.kle4 said:
Which one? I'm shocked I have not heard of this.Chris said:Just out of curiosity, has any Labour MP ever endorsed a depiction of a prominent Jewish politician being buggered by a pig?
A prominent Tory MP has endorsed a depiction of a prominent Muslim politician being buggered by a pig. And guess what. He's still a prominent Tory MP.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/13/tory-mp-apologises-for-tweet-of-sadiq-khan-image-with-pig-balloon0 -
Nobody has won.Cookie said:
Brexit will not happen. Well done - you won. We were offered a vote, but well, most MPs had no real intention of honouring it. Remain kicked and screamed and sulked and sabotaged, and, well, looks like we're stuck in the EU now.TheScreamingEagles said:So is the PB consensus if Brexit gets delayed for more than 3 months then Brexit will never happen?
I can't really be arsed voting again.
I'm still in favour of Leaving even without a deal.
Whatever, Revoke or Leave, happens the country's buggered.0 -
Yes, I think it is a fair call as he moved his body knowing the shot was coming. But, his arms were still in the “natural silhouette”, so it would be interesting to know if it might be different from next season._Anazina_ said:I’m probably in a minority, but that is a penalty for me. The defender looks at the flight of the ball and lets his arm get in its path. I think it’s the right decision.
Extraordinary game.0 -
Who cares what Emin thinks?williamglenn said:0 -
Brexit can happen next week, if the ERG unicorn hunt was called off. But they don't really want to leave, because what would they do with their rest of their lives?Cookie said:
Brexit will not happen. Well done - you won. We were offered a vote, but well, most MPs had no real intention of honouring it. Remain kicked and screamed and sulked and sabotaged, and, well, looks like we're stuck in the EU now.TheScreamingEagles said:So is the PB consensus if Brexit gets delayed for more than 3 months then Brexit will never happen?
I can't really be arsed voting again.0 -
Speaking of Johnny Mercer, this just popped up on my twitter. Anyone know what it's about?
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The handball rules aren't being properly applied right now - see the Schalke penalty from Man City gametlg86 said:
Yes, I think it is a fair call as he moved his body knowing the shot was coming. But, his arms were still in the “natural silhouette”, so it would be interesting to know if it might be different from next season._Anazina_ said:I’m probably in a minority, but that is a penalty for me. The defender looks at the flight of the ball and lets his arm get in its path. I think it’s the right decision.
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+1 This last para nails it.rottenborough said:
Brexit can happen next week, if the ERG unicorn hunt was called off. But they don't really want to leave, because what would they do with their rest of their lives?Cookie said:
Brexit will not happen. Well done - you won. We were offered a vote, but well, most MPs had no real intention of honouring it. Remain kicked and screamed and sulked and sabotaged, and, well, looks like we're stuck in the EU now.TheScreamingEagles said:So is the PB consensus if Brexit gets delayed for more than 3 months then Brexit will never happen?
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It depends whether or not the cartoon was funny. We all had a laugh about David Cameron's encounter with a pig.Chris said:
So does everyone agree that because he is still a Tory MP, Theresa May is obviously a big Islamophobe and is facilitating Islamophobia in the Tory party?TheScreamingEagles said:
The Brexiteer Mickey Fab.kle4 said:
Which one? I'm shocked I have not heard of this.Chris said:Just out of curiosity, has any Labour MP ever endorsed a depiction of a prominent Jewish politician being buggered by a pig?
A prominent Tory MP has endorsed a depiction of a prominent Muslim politician being buggered by a pig. And guess what. He's still a prominent Tory MP.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/13/tory-mp-apologises-for-tweet-of-sadiq-khan-image-with-pig-balloon0 -
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tory-mp-attempts-defend-wifes-13443213Theuniondivvie said:Speaking of Johnny Mercer, this just popped up on my twitter. Anyone know what it's about?
https://twitter.com/JohnnyMercerUK/status/10522336183561420800 -
Oh right. When it's Islamophobia, it's OK if it's funny. Yes.Sean_F said:
It depends whether or not the cartoon was funny. We all had a laugh about David Cameron's encounter with a pig.Chris said:
So does everyone agree that because he is still a Tory MP, Theresa May is obviously a big Islamophobe and is facilitating Islamophobia in the Tory party?TheScreamingEagles said:
The Brexiteer Mickey Fab.kle4 said:
Which one? I'm shocked I have not heard of this.Chris said:Just out of curiosity, has any Labour MP ever endorsed a depiction of a prominent Jewish politician being buggered by a pig?
A prominent Tory MP has endorsed a depiction of a prominent Muslim politician being buggered by a pig. And guess what. He's still a prominent Tory MP.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/13/tory-mp-apologises-for-tweet-of-sadiq-khan-image-with-pig-balloon0 -
Well, who in their right mind wouldn't be amused by the thought of a Muslim being buggered by a pig? Of course.Chris said:
Oh right. When it's Islamophobia, it's OK if it's funny. Yes.Sean_F said:
It depends whether or not the cartoon was funny. We all had a laugh about David Cameron's encounter with a pig.Chris said:
So does everyone agree that because he is still a Tory MP, Theresa May is obviously a big Islamophobe and is facilitating Islamophobia in the Tory party?TheScreamingEagles said:
The Brexiteer Mickey Fab.kle4 said:
Which one? I'm shocked I have not heard of this.Chris said:Just out of curiosity, has any Labour MP ever endorsed a depiction of a prominent Jewish politician being buggered by a pig?
A prominent Tory MP has endorsed a depiction of a prominent Muslim politician being buggered by a pig. And guess what. He's still a prominent Tory MP.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/13/tory-mp-apologises-for-tweet-of-sadiq-khan-image-with-pig-balloon0 -
You winning with a dodgy penalty in Fergie time. just like the old days!glw said:
Ridiculous. A proper old-school United win, Solskjær has to get the job now surely.Benpointer said:Oh man - what a game!!!
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Someone who is entitled to express an opinion over the behaviour of a member of Parliament who is over-reaching what I believe to be the role of someone in his positionNigelb said:
Here you go:oxfordsimon said:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominic_Grieve
And who are you ?0 -
No FT until midnight. Major embargo?0
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And Grieve thinks he is someone entitled to express an opinion toooxfordsimon said:
Someone who is entitled to express an opinion over the behaviour of a member of Parliament who is over-reaching what I believe to be the role of someone in his positionNigelb said:
Here you go:oxfordsimon said:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominic_Grieve
And who are you ?0 -
If you can't laugh about a politician being buggered by a pig (or some other well-endowed animal) what can you laugh about?Chris said:
Well, who in their right mind wouldn't be amused by the thought of a Muslim being buggered by a pig? Of course.Chris said:
Oh right. When it's Islamophobia, it's OK if it's funny. Yes.Sean_F said:
It depends whether or not the cartoon was funny. We all had a laugh about David Cameron's encounter with a pig.Chris said:
So does everyone agree that because he is still a Tory MP, Theresa May is obviously a big Islamophobe and is facilitating Islamophobia in the Tory party?TheScreamingEagles said:
The Brexiteer Mickey Fab.kle4 said:
Which one? I'm shocked I have not heard of this.Chris said:Just out of curiosity, has any Labour MP ever endorsed a depiction of a prominent Jewish politician being buggered by a pig?
A prominent Tory MP has endorsed a depiction of a prominent Muslim politician being buggered by a pig. And guess what. He's still a prominent Tory MP.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/13/tory-mp-apologises-for-tweet-of-sadiq-khan-image-with-pig-balloon0 -
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Ah, thanks. Positively Partridge-esque.TheScreamingEagles said:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tory-mp-attempts-defend-wifes-13443213Theuniondivvie said:Speaking of Johnny Mercer, this just popped up on my twitter. Anyone know what it's about?
https://twitter.com/JohnnyMercerUK/status/10522336183561420800 -
Who does this unnamed Brexiteer mean by 'we' and what does losing mean? Because surely the most exuberant Brexiteers think losing means the deal passing?Scott_P said:
The more charitable explanation as advanced by some on here is that the deal is not really leaving (though I find that argument very weak) or of course that no deal is better than a crap deal - but I have been surprised how many really do seem to believe that no brexit is better than a bad brexit.rottenborough said:
Brexit can happen next week, if the ERG unicorn hunt was called off. But they don't really want to leave, because what would they do with their rest of their lives?Cookie said:
Brexit will not happen. Well done - you won. We were offered a vote, but well, most MPs had no real intention of honouring it. Remain kicked and screamed and sulked and sabotaged, and, well, looks like we're stuck in the EU now.TheScreamingEagles said:So is the PB consensus if Brexit gets delayed for more than 3 months then Brexit will never happen?
I can't really be arsed voting again.0 -
https://order-order.com/2019/03/06/german-economists-no-deal-will-hit-ireland-three-times-harder-uk/TheScreamingEagles said:
He's an MP looking to honour the referendum result.oxfordsimon said:
He's looking to prevent the disaster of No Deal, something Leavers said wouldn't happen/is Project Fear.
However, the Institut also modelled the effect of a “hard but smart” Brexit, where the UK left with no deal but also put in place large unilateral tariff cuts, more or less exactly along the lines of what what the Government is planning. In this scenario, the UK actually faces a smaller impact than the EU – they forecast a -0.5% impact on the UK compared to -0.4% for France and -0.48% for Germany, and -0.6% for the EU as a whole. Ireland is still by far the biggest loser, taking a -5.39% hit, ten times the size of the UK…
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Leaving properly and trading with your neighbours isn't a unicorn what happens the rest of the world over. The rest of the f***ing world finds a way to exist, why can't we?rottenborough said:
Brexit can happen next week, if the ERG unicorn hunt was called off. But they don't really want to leave, because what would they do with their rest of their lives?Cookie said:
Brexit will not happen. Well done - you won. We were offered a vote, but well, most MPs had no real intention of honouring it. Remain kicked and screamed and sulked and sabotaged, and, well, looks like we're stuck in the EU now.TheScreamingEagles said:So is the PB consensus if Brexit gets delayed for more than 3 months then Brexit will never happen?
I can't really be arsed voting again.0 -
Pretty sure I remember him telling us we should not Brexit. Really I should be apologising to him.williamglenn said:0 -
I take issue with it being a matter of age. Unless he is referring to political generations? Because someone might enter parliament late compared to some and be a relative novice at an age others are 30 year veterans, and so a breath of fresh air, if such is needed.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Cannot argue with thatScott_P said:0 -
Yeah, sure. If a Labour MP had endorsed an image of a Jewish politician being buggered by a pig the laughter would have been deafening.Sean_F said:
If you can't laugh about a politician being buggered by a pig (or some other well-endowed animal) what can you laugh about?Chris said:
Well, who in their right mind wouldn't be amused by the thought of a Muslim being buggered by a pig? Of course.Chris said:
Oh right. When it's Islamophobia, it's OK if it's funny. Yes.Sean_F said:
It depends whether or not the cartoon was funny. We all had a laugh about David Cameron's encounter with a pig.Chris said:
So does everyone agree that because he is still a Tory MP, Theresa May is obviously a big Islamophobe and is facilitating Islamophobia in the Tory party?TheScreamingEagles said:
The Brexiteer Mickey Fab.kle4 said:
Which one? I'm shocked I have not heard of this.Chris said:Just out of curiosity, has any Labour MP ever endorsed a depiction of a prominent Jewish politician being buggered by a pig?
A prominent Tory MP has endorsed a depiction of a prominent Muslim politician being buggered by a pig. And guess what. He's still a prominent Tory MP.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/13/tory-mp-apologises-for-tweet-of-sadiq-khan-image-with-pig-balloon0 -
Do you realise the UK suffers a downturn in that scenario?Floater said:
https://order-order.com/2019/03/06/german-economists-no-deal-will-hit-ireland-three-times-harder-uk/TheScreamingEagles said:
He's an MP looking to honour the referendum result.oxfordsimon said:
He's looking to prevent the disaster of No Deal, something Leavers said wouldn't happen/is Project Fear.
However, the Institut also modelled the effect of a “hard but smart” Brexit, where the UK left with no deal but also put in place large unilateral tariff cuts, more or less exactly along the lines of what what the Government is planning. In this scenario, the UK actually faces a smaller impact than the EU – they forecast a -0.5% impact on the UK compared to -0.4% for France and -0.48% for Germany, and -0.6% for the EU as a whole. Ireland is still by far the biggest loser, taking a -5.39% hit, ten times the size of the UK…
Not what Vote Leave promised the voters.
The fact the Irish suffer more than us will be no comfort to people in the UK who lose their jobs.
Which is that a 0.5% fall in GDP usually means.0 -
Well at least they're not foolishly thinking they can get it through at least. Will they please just give up on the deal already (or at least, give up on it in anything other than approval via a referendum). It's not a pleasant or edifying spectacle seeing the government, half of which doesn't really seem to like the deal anyway given the lukewarm effort they put in on it, keep flogging this dead horse.Scott_P said:0 -
Of course we could 'exist' but it's hardly the sunlit uplands we were promised.Philip_Thompson said:
Leaving properly and trading with your neighbours isn't a unicorn what happens the rest of the world over. The rest of the f***ing world finds a way to exist, why can't we?rottenborough said:
Brexit can happen next week, if the ERG unicorn hunt was called off. But they don't really want to leave, because what would they do with their rest of their lives?Cookie said:
Brexit will not happen. Well done - you won. We were offered a vote, but well, most MPs had no real intention of honouring it. Remain kicked and screamed and sulked and sabotaged, and, well, looks like we're stuck in the EU now.TheScreamingEagles said:So is the PB consensus if Brexit gets delayed for more than 3 months then Brexit will never happen?
I can't really be arsed voting again.
Alternatively we could stay in the EU and continue to thrive.0 -
Yes.TheScreamingEagles said:So is the PB consensus if Brexit gets delayed for more than 3 months then Brexit will never happen?
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Quite.Chris said:
Yeah, sure. If a Labour MP had endorsed an image of a Jewish politician being buggered by a pig the laughter would have been deafening.Sean_F said:
If you can't laugh about a politician being buggered by a pig (or some other well-endowed animal) what can you laugh about?Chris said:
Well, who in their right mind wouldn't be amused by the thought of a Muslim being buggered by a pig? Of course.Chris said:
Oh right. When it's Islamophobia, it's OK if it's funny. Yes.Sean_F said:
It depends whether or not the cartoon was funny. We all had a laugh about David Cameron's encounter with a pig.Chris said:
So does everyone agree that because he is still a Tory MP, Theresa May is obviously a big Islamophobe and is facilitating Islamophobia in the Tory party?TheScreamingEagles said:
The Brexiteer Mickey Fab.kle4 said:
Which one? I'm shocked I have not heard of this.Chris said:Just out of curiosity, has any Labour MP ever endorsed a depiction of a prominent Jewish politician being buggered by a pig?
A prominent Tory MP has endorsed a depiction of a prominent Muslim politician being buggered by a pig. And guess what. He's still a prominent Tory MP.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/13/tory-mp-apologises-for-tweet-of-sadiq-khan-image-with-pig-balloon0 -
Perhaps it would have been more tactful to show him being assaulted by a bear.Chris said:
Yeah, sure. If a Labour MP had endorsed an image of a Jewish politician being buggered by a pig the laughter would have been deafening.Sean_F said:
If you can't laugh about a politician being buggered by a pig (or some other well-endowed animal) what can you laugh about?Chris said:
Well, who in their right mind wouldn't be amused by the thought of a Muslim being buggered by a pig? Of course.Chris said:
Oh right. When it's Islamophobia, it's OK if it's funny. Yes.Sean_F said:
It depends whether or not the cartoon was funny. We all had a laugh about David Cameron's encounter with a pig.Chris said:
So does everyone agree that because he is still a Tory MP, Theresa May is obviously a big Islamophobe and is facilitating Islamophobia in the Tory party?TheScreamingEagles said:
The Brexiteer Mickey Fab.kle4 said:
Which one? I'm shocked I have not heard of this.Chris said:Just out of curiosity, has any Labour MP ever endorsed a depiction of a prominent Jewish politician being buggered by a pig?
A prominent Tory MP has endorsed a depiction of a prominent Muslim politician being buggered by a pig. And guess what. He's still a prominent Tory MP.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/13/tory-mp-apologises-for-tweet-of-sadiq-khan-image-with-pig-balloon0 -
In 20 minutes it will be 22 days to 11:01pm March 29 2019. Will we still be in the European Union?0
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Nowadays they're having to reanimate it before they can flog it to death all over again.kle4 said:
Well at least they're not foolishly thinking they can get it through at least. Will they please just give up on the deal already (or at least, give up on it in anything other than approval via a referendum). It's not a pleasant or edifying spectacle seeing the government, half of which doesn't really seem to like the deal anyway given the lukewarm effort they put in on it, keep flogging this dead horse.Scott_P said:0 -
We've already had some outrage tonight because Michael Howard was depicted trying to hypnotise people by swinging a pocket watch, just like Shylock does in the Merchant of Venice.Chris said:
Yeah, sure. If a Labour MP had endorsed an image of a Jewish politician being buggered by a pig the laughter would have been deafening.Sean_F said:
If you can't laugh about a politician being buggered by a pig (or some other well-endowed animal) what can you laugh about?Chris said:
Well, who in their right mind wouldn't be amused by the thought of a Muslim being buggered by a pig? Of course.Chris said:
Oh right. When it's Islamophobia, it's OK if it's funny. Yes.Sean_F said:
It depends whether or not the cartoon was funny. We all had a laugh about David Cameron's encounter with a pig.Chris said:
So does everyone agree that because he is still a Tory MP, Theresa May is obviously a big Islamophobe and is facilitating Islamophobia in the Tory party?TheScreamingEagles said:
The Brexiteer Mickey Fab.kle4 said:
Which one? I'm shocked I have not heard of this.Chris said:Just out of curiosity, has any Labour MP ever endorsed a depiction of a prominent Jewish politician being buggered by a pig?
A prominent Tory MP has endorsed a depiction of a prominent Muslim politician being buggered by a pig. And guess what. He's still a prominent Tory MP.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/13/tory-mp-apologises-for-tweet-of-sadiq-khan-image-with-pig-balloon
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I reckon plan B is a 21 month extension. So much the same as the WA in practice, just inside the EU rather than inside. We could leave straight to an FTA, except our negotiators have both the energy and competence of a dead snail.TheScreamingEagles said:So is the PB consensus if Brexit gets delayed for more than 3 months then Brexit will never happen?
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you said disaster - 0.5% is not a disasterTheScreamingEagles said:
Do you realise the UK suffers a downturn in that scenario?Floater said:
https://order-order.com/2019/03/06/german-economists-no-deal-will-hit-ireland-three-times-harder-uk/TheScreamingEagles said:
He's an MP looking to honour the referendum result.oxfordsimon said:
He's looking to prevent the disaster of No Deal, something Leavers said wouldn't happen/is Project Fear.
However, the Institut also modelled the effect of a “hard but smart” Brexit, where the UK left with no deal but also put in place large unilateral tariff cuts, more or less exactly along the lines of what what the Government is planning. In this scenario, the UK actually faces a smaller impact than the EU – they forecast a -0.5% impact on the UK compared to -0.4% for France and -0.48% for Germany, and -0.6% for the EU as a whole. Ireland is still by far the biggest loser, taking a -5.39% hit, ten times the size of the UK…
Not what Vote Leave promised the voters.
The fact the Irish suffer more than us will be no comfort to people in the UK who lose their jobs.
Which is that a 0.5% fall in GDP usually means.0 -
Absolutely. Remain is getting stronger by the day, and what incentive would there be for the reluctant to back a Brexit option to resolve it when remain would be on the table?TheScreamingEagles said:So is the PB consensus if Brexit gets delayed for more than 3 months then Brexit will never happen?
A long delay means the continuity remainers know they have won (or at least can get a referendum and a chance to win) since it will be proof that Leavers, even with the threat of remain, simply will not agree something. And if preventing a delay leading to possible remain does not create a majority for a leave option, I don't see why the emergence of that remain option would either. We know some Brexiteers would prefer remain, they have said as much.
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I believe pigs are unusually rather than massively endowed; the end of their penis is corkscrew shaped and locks into place during the act.Sean_F said:
If you can't laugh about a politician being buggered by a pig (or some other well-endowed animal) what can you laugh about?Chris said:
Well, who in their right mind wouldn't be amused by the thought of a Muslim being buggered by a pig? Of course.Chris said:
Oh right. When it's Islamophobia, it's OK if it's funny. Yes.Sean_F said:
It depends whether or not the cartoon was funny. We all had a laugh about David Cameron's encounter with a pig.Chris said:
So does everyone agree that because he is still a Tory MP, Theresa May is obviously a big Islamophobe and is facilitating Islamophobia in the Tory party?TheScreamingEagles said:
The Brexiteer Mickey Fab.kle4 said:
Which one? I'm shocked I have not heard of this.Chris said:Just out of curiosity, has any Labour MP ever endorsed a depiction of a prominent Jewish politician being buggered by a pig?
A prominent Tory MP has endorsed a depiction of a prominent Muslim politician being buggered by a pig. And guess what. He's still a prominent Tory MP.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/13/tory-mp-apologises-for-tweet-of-sadiq-khan-image-with-pig-balloon
I had a friend who trained as a pig farmer before deciding he was better suited to the antiques trade, just in case anyone thinks I have an excessive interest in the subject.0 -
Many years ago, in a PJ O'Rourke book the title of which I forget, he pointed out that most US people would be happy with a cut in living standards provide that Japan (the bete-noir of the day) suffered more. He also pointed out that this was stupid.Floater said:
https://order-order.com/2019/03/06/german-economists-no-deal-will-hit-ireland-three-times-harder-uk/TheScreamingEagles said:
He's an MP looking to honour the referendum result.oxfordsimon said:
He's looking to prevent the disaster of No Deal, something Leavers said wouldn't happen/is Project Fear.
However, the Institut also modelled the effect of a “hard but smart” Brexit, where the UK left with no deal but also put in place large unilateral tariff cuts, more or less exactly along the lines of what what the Government is planning. In this scenario, the UK actually faces a smaller impact than the EU – they forecast a -0.5% impact on the UK compared to -0.4% for France and -0.48% for Germany, and -0.6% for the EU as a whole. Ireland is still by far the biggest loser, taking a -5.39% hit, ten times the size of the UK…0 -
Evening all. I've been away for a few days so maybe I've missed something, but am I right that Nothing Has Changed? Brexit still in utter chaos, MPs still chasing unicorns, Labour still consumed by antisemitism, Trump still batting off revelations which would have killed off anyone else's political career.0
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You Leavers promised sunlit uplands, the voters losing jobs will be pissed off, it'll be a disaster for those who get buggered by Brexit.Floater said:
you said disaster - 0.5% is not a disasterTheScreamingEagles said:
Do you realise the UK suffers a downturn in that scenario?Floater said:
https://order-order.com/2019/03/06/german-economists-no-deal-will-hit-ireland-three-times-harder-uk/TheScreamingEagles said:
He's an MP looking to honour the referendum result.oxfordsimon said:
He's looking to prevent the disaster of No Deal, something Leavers said wouldn't happen/is Project Fear.
However, the Institut also modelled the effect of a “hard but smart” Brexit, where the UK left with no deal but also put in place large unilateral tariff cuts, more or less exactly along the lines of what what the Government is planning. In this scenario, the UK actually faces a smaller impact than the EU – they forecast a -0.5% impact on the UK compared to -0.4% for France and -0.48% for Germany, and -0.6% for the EU as a whole. Ireland is still by far the biggest loser, taking a -5.39% hit, ten times the size of the UK…
Not what Vote Leave promised the voters.
The fact the Irish suffer more than us will be no comfort to people in the UK who lose their jobs.
Which is that a 0.5% fall in GDP usually means.
Christ you're like a Corbynite, because no matter how bad it is, it's great ideology.
Plus I thought the Leaver consensus is that we're sicked and tired of experts.0 -
You could be away for a few months and Nothing Would Change. It's like Groundhog Day round here, but with real hogs.Richard_Nabavi said:Evening all. I've been away for a few days so maybe I've missed something, but am I right that Nothing Has Changed? Brexit still in utter chaos, MPs still chasing unicorns, Labour still consumed by antisemitism, Trump still batting off revelations which would have killed off anyone else's political career.
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Pretty much.Richard_Nabavi said:Evening all. I've been away for a few days so maybe I've missed something, but am I right that Nothing Has Changed? Brexit still in utter chaos, MPs still chasing unicorns, Labour still consumed by antisemitism, Trump still batting off revelations which would have killed off anyone else's political career.
Tony Blair isn't leaving Labour as well.0 -
That sounds very painful.Theuniondivvie said:
I believe pigs are unusually rather than massively endowed; the end of their penis is corkscrew shaped and locks into place during the act.Sean_F said:
If you can't laugh about a politician being buggered by a pig (or some other well-endowed animal) what can you laugh about?Chris said:
Well, who in their right mind wouldn't be amused by the thought of a Muslim being buggered by a pig? Of course.Chris said:
Oh right. When it's Islamophobia, it's OK if it's funny. Yes.Sean_F said:
It depends whether or not the cartoon was funny. We all had a laugh about David Cameron's encounter with a pig.Chris said:
So does everyone agree that because he is still a Tory MP, Theresa May is obviously a big Islamophobe and is facilitating Islamophobia in the Tory party?TheScreamingEagles said:
The Brexiteer Mickey Fab.kle4 said:
Which one? I'm shocked I have not heard of this.Chris said:Just out of curiosity, has any Labour MP ever endorsed a depiction of a prominent Jewish politician being buggered by a pig?
A prominent Tory MP has endorsed a depiction of a prominent Muslim politician being buggered by a pig. And guess what. He's still a prominent Tory MP.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/13/tory-mp-apologises-for-tweet-of-sadiq-khan-image-with-pig-balloon
I had a friend who trained as a pig farmer before deciding he was better suited to the antiques trade, just in case anyone thinks I have an excessive interest in the subject.0 -
We have had bad times while in the EU too you know, it is not a guarantee of eternal thriving.Benpointer said:
Of course we could 'exist' but it's hardly the sunlit uplands we were promised.Philip_Thompson said:
Leaving properly and trading with your neighbours isn't a unicorn what happens the rest of the world over. The rest of the f***ing world finds a way to exist, why can't we?rottenborough said:
Brexit can happen next week, if the ERG unicorn hunt was called off. But they don't really want to leave, because what would they do with their rest of their lives?Cookie said:
Brexit will not happen. Well done - you won. We were offered a vote, but well, most MPs had no real intention of honouring it. Remain kicked and screamed and sulked and sabotaged, and, well, looks like we're stuck in the EU now.TheScreamingEagles said:So is the PB consensus if Brexit gets delayed for more than 3 months then Brexit will never happen?
I can't really be arsed voting again.
Alternatively we could stay in the EU and continue to thrive.
However, when even ardent no deal Brexiteers are saying to reject the deal option even if it means remain, well, one can hardly blame remainers for saying the same thing. They're right. I wouldn't trust this government, this parliament, to organise a deal for the post transition. It won't be pleasant for us or the EU to remain, so much bitterness, but at least there'd be the status quo.0 -
Situation normalRichard_Nabavi said:Evening all. I've been away for a few days so maybe I've missed something, but am I right that Nothing Has Changed? Brexit still in utter chaos, MPs still chasing unicorns, Labour still consumed by antisemitism, Trump still batting off revelations which would have killed off anyone else's political career.
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I am sure this little graph helps:TheScreamingEagles said:
Do you realise the UK suffers a downturn in that scenario?Floater said:
https://order-order.com/2019/03/06/german-economists-no-deal-will-hit-ireland-three-times-harder-uk/TheScreamingEagles said:
He's an MP looking to honour the referendum result.oxfordsimon said:
He's looking to prevent the disaster of No Deal, something Leavers said wouldn't happen/is Project Fear.
However, the Institut also modelled the effect of a “hard but smart” Brexit, where the UK left with no deal but also put in place large unilateral tariff cuts, more or less exactly along the lines of what what the Government is planning. In this scenario, the UK actually faces a smaller impact than the EU – they forecast a -0.5% impact on the UK compared to -0.4% for France and -0.48% for Germany, and -0.6% for the EU as a whole. Ireland is still by far the biggest loser, taking a -5.39% hit, ten times the size of the UK…
Not what Vote Leave promised the voters.
The fact the Irish suffer more than us will be no comfort to people in the UK who lose their jobs.
Which is that a 0.5% fall in GDP usually means.
https://twitter.com/carmen_mayes/status/1102986818209890304?s=190 -
Gove was misquoted.TheScreamingEagles said:Plus I thought the Leaver consensus is that we're sicked and tired of experts.
We are sick and tired of EXPORTS.0 -
It's worse than Groundhog Day - Bill Murray at least learned things during the course of his time loop.El_Capitano said:
You could be away for a few months and Nothing Would Change. It's like Groundhog Day round here, but with real hogs.Richard_Nabavi said:Evening all. I've been away for a few days so maybe I've missed something, but am I right that Nothing Has Changed? Brexit still in utter chaos, MPs still chasing unicorns, Labour still consumed by antisemitism, Trump still batting off revelations which would have killed off anyone else's political career.
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But that wouldn't really have harmonised with the general thrust of the Tory campaign against Sadiq Khan, which was essentially based on attacking him because he was a Muslim, would it?Sean_F said:
Perhaps it would have been more tactful to show him being assaulted by a bear.Chris said:
Yeah, sure. If a Labour MP had endorsed an image of a Jewish politician being buggered by a pig the laughter would have been deafening.Sean_F said:
If you can't laugh about a politician being buggered by a pig (or some other well-endowed animal) what can you laugh about?Chris said:
Well, who in their right mind wouldn't be amused by the thought of a Muslim being buggered by a pig? Of course.Chris said:
Oh right. When it's Islamophobia, it's OK if it's funny. Yes.Sean_F said:
It depends whether or not the cartoon was funny. We all had a laugh about David Cameron's encounter with a pig.Chris said:
So does everyone agree that because he is still a Tory MP, Theresa May is obviously a big Islamophobe and is facilitating Islamophobia in the Tory party?TheScreamingEagles said:
The Brexiteer Mickey Fab.kle4 said:
Which one? I'm shocked I have not heard of this.Chris said:Just out of curiosity, has any Labour MP ever endorsed a depiction of a prominent Jewish politician being buggered by a pig?
A prominent Tory MP has endorsed a depiction of a prominent Muslim politician being buggered by a pig. And guess what. He's still a prominent Tory MP.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/13/tory-mp-apologises-for-tweet-of-sadiq-khan-image-with-pig-balloon
But that was fine, because racism is terrible, except when directed against Muslims. They're fair game because ... well, I wonder why.0 -
We don't like our politicians.twistedfirestopper3 said:
How are we going to remain after all the bad faith on both sides? They don't like our politicians, we don't like their politicians.williamglenn said:0 -
So you're saying bad things will stop completely on Brexit day? Well that's a relief.Foxy said:
I am sure this little graph helps:TheScreamingEagles said:
Do you realise the UK suffers a downturn in that scenario?Floater said:
https://order-order.com/2019/03/06/german-economists-no-deal-will-hit-ireland-three-times-harder-uk/TheScreamingEagles said:
He's an MP looking to honour the referendum result.oxfordsimon said:
He's looking to prevent the disaster of No Deal, something Leavers said wouldn't happen/is Project Fear.
However, the Institut also modelled the effect of a “hard but smart” Brexit, where the UK left with no deal but also put in place large unilateral tariff cuts, more or less exactly along the lines of what what the Government is planning. In this scenario, the UK actually faces a smaller impact than the EU – they forecast a -0.5% impact on the UK compared to -0.4% for France and -0.48% for Germany, and -0.6% for the EU as a whole. Ireland is still by far the biggest loser, taking a -5.39% hit, ten times the size of the UK…
Not what Vote Leave promised the voters.
The fact the Irish suffer more than us will be no comfort to people in the UK who lose their jobs.
Which is that a 0.5% fall in GDP usually means.
https://twitter.com/carmen_mayes/status/1102986818209890304?s=190 -
Its Groundhog Day!Richard_Nabavi said:Evening all. I've been away for a few days so maybe I've missed something, but am I right that Nothing Has Changed? Brexit still in utter chaos, MPs still chasing unicorns, Labour still consumed by antisemitism, Trump still batting off revelations which would have killed off anyone else's political career.
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No, it increases exponentially after Brexit day.kle4 said:
So you're saying bad things will stop completely on Brexit day? Well that's a relief.Foxy said:
I am sure this little graph helps:TheScreamingEagles said:
Do you realise the UK suffers a downturn in that scenario?Floater said:
https://order-order.com/2019/03/06/german-economists-no-deal-will-hit-ireland-three-times-harder-uk/TheScreamingEagles said:
He's an MP looking to honour the referendum result.oxfordsimon said:
He's looking to prevent the disaster of No Deal, something Leavers said wouldn't happen/is Project Fear.
However, the Institut also modelled the effect of a “hard but smart” Brexit, where the UK left with no deal but also put in place large unilateral tariff cuts, more or less exactly along the lines of what what the Government is planning. In this scenario, the UK actually faces a smaller impact than the EU – they forecast a -0.5% impact on the UK compared to -0.4% for France and -0.48% for Germany, and -0.6% for the EU as a whole. Ireland is still by far the biggest loser, taking a -5.39% hit, ten times the size of the UK…
Not what Vote Leave promised the voters.
The fact the Irish suffer more than us will be no comfort to people in the UK who lose their jobs.
Which is that a 0.5% fall in GDP usually means.
https://twitter.com/carmen_mayes/status/1102986818209890304?s=190 -
I'm sure you were deeply offended by all the Cameron pig-f*cker jokes.Chris said:
We've already had some outrage tonight because Michael Howard was depicted trying to hypnotise people by swinging a pocket watch, just like Shylock does in the Merchant of Venice.Chris said:
Yeah, sure. If a Labour MP had endorsed an image of a Jewish politician being buggered by a pig the laughter would have been deafening.Sean_F said:
If you can't laugh about a politician being buggered by a pig (or some other well-endowed animal) what can you laugh about?Chris said:
Well, who in their right mind wouldn't be amused by the thought of a Muslim being buggered by a pig? Of course.Chris said:
Oh right. When it's Islamophobia, it's OK if it's funny. Yes.Sean_F said:
It depends whether or not the cartoon was funny. We all had a laugh about David Cameron's encounter with a pig.Chris said:
So does everyone agree that because he is still a Tory MP, Theresa May is obviously a big Islamophobe and is facilitating Islamophobia in the Tory party?TheScreamingEagles said:
The Brexiteer Mickey Fab.kle4 said:
Which one? I'm shocked I have not heard of this.Chris said:Just out of curiosity, has any Labour MP ever endorsed a depiction of a prominent Jewish politician being buggered by a pig?
A prominent Tory MP has endorsed a depiction of a prominent Muslim politician being buggered by a pig. And guess what. He's still a prominent Tory MP.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/13/tory-mp-apologises-for-tweet-of-sadiq-khan-image-with-pig-balloon0 -
Dr Foxy's graph suggests otherwise.TheScreamingEagles said:
No, it increases exponentially after Brexit day.kle4 said:
So you're saying bad things will stop completely on Brexit day? Well that's a relief.Foxy said:
I am sure this little graph helps:TheScreamingEagles said:
Do you realise the UK suffers a downturn in that scenario?Floater said:
https://order-order.com/2019/03/06/german-economists-no-deal-will-hit-ireland-three-times-harder-uk/TheScreamingEagles said:
He's an MP looking to honour the referendum result.oxfordsimon said:
He's looking to prevent the disaster of No Deal, something Leavers said wouldn't happen/is Project Fear.
However, the Institut also modelled the effect of a “hard but smart” Brexit, where the UK left with no deal but also put in place large unilateral tariff cuts, more or less exactly along the lines of what what the Government is planning. In this scenario, the UK actually faces a smaller impact than the EU – they forecast a -0.5% impact on the UK compared to -0.4% for France and -0.48% for Germany, and -0.6% for the EU as a whole. Ireland is still by far the biggest loser, taking a -5.39% hit, ten times the size of the UK…
Not what Vote Leave promised the voters.
The fact the Irish suffer more than us will be no comfort to people in the UK who lose their jobs.
Which is that a 0.5% fall in GDP usually means.
https://twitter.com/carmen_mayes/status/1102986818209890304?s=190 -
I don't know, Man U have been transformed since May agreed her deal with the EU.El_Capitano said:
You could be away for a few months and Nothing Would Change. It's like Groundhog Day round here, but with real hogs.Richard_Nabavi said:Evening all. I've been away for a few days so maybe I've missed something, but am I right that Nothing Has Changed? Brexit still in utter chaos, MPs still chasing unicorns, Labour still consumed by antisemitism, Trump still batting off revelations which would have killed off anyone else's political career.
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Only because at that point the zombie apocalypse disrupts the plotting of graphs...kle4 said:
So you're saying bad things will stop completely on Brexit day? Well that's a relief.Foxy said:
I am sure this little graph helps:TheScreamingEagles said:
Do you realise the UK suffers a downturn in that scenario?Floater said:
https://order-order.com/2019/03/06/german-economists-no-deal-will-hit-ireland-three-times-harder-uk/TheScreamingEagles said:
He's an MP looking to honour the referendum result.oxfordsimon said:
He's looking to prevent the disaster of No Deal, something Leavers said wouldn't happen/is Project Fear.
However, the Institut also modelled the effect of a “hard but smart” Brexit, where the UK left with no deal but also put in place large unilateral tariff cuts, more or less exactly along the lines of what what the Government is planning. In this scenario, the UK actually faces a smaller impact than the EU – they forecast a -0.5% impact on the UK compared to -0.4% for France and -0.48% for Germany, and -0.6% for the EU as a whole. Ireland is still by far the biggest loser, taking a -5.39% hit, ten times the size of the UK…
Not what Vote Leave promised the voters.
The fact the Irish suffer more than us will be no comfort to people in the UK who lose their jobs.
Which is that a 0.5% fall in GDP usually means.
https://twitter.com/carmen_mayes/status/1102986818209890304?s=190 -
Foxy said:
I reckon plan B is a 21 month extension. So much the same as the WA in practice, just inside the EU rather than inside. We could leave straight to an FTA, except our negotiators have both the energy and competence of a dead snail.TheScreamingEagles said:So is the PB consensus if Brexit gets delayed for more than 3 months then Brexit will never happen?
I can't be easy when we hold all the cards.0 -
Oh right. You think it wasn't Islamophobic because depicting a Muslim being buggered by a pig was a purely random choice of animal. It might just as well have been an octopus or an okapi?Sean_F said:
I'm sure you were deeply offended by all the Cameron pig-f*cker jokes.Chris said:
We've already had some outrage tonight because Michael Howard was depicted trying to hypnotise people by swinging a pocket watch, just like Shylock does in the Merchant of Venice.Chris said:
Yeah, sure. If a Labour MP had endorsed an image of a Jewish politician being buggered by a pig the laughter would have been deafening.Sean_F said:
If you can't laugh about a politician being buggered by a pig (or some other well-endowed animal) what can you laugh about?Chris said:
Well, who in their right mind wouldn't be amused by the thought of a Muslim being buggered by a pig? Of course.Chris said:
Oh right. When it's Islamophobia, it's OK if it's funny. Yes.Sean_F said:
It depends whether or not the cartoon was funny. We all had a laugh about David Cameron's encounter with a pig.Chris said:
So does everyone agree that because he is still a Tory MP, Theresa May is obviously a big Islamophobe and is facilitating Islamophobia in the Tory party?TheScreamingEagles said:
The Brexiteer Mickey Fab.kle4 said:
Which one? I'm shocked I have not heard of this.Chris said:Just out of curiosity, has any Labour MP ever endorsed a depiction of a prominent Jewish politician being buggered by a pig?
A prominent Tory MP has endorsed a depiction of a prominent Muslim politician being buggered by a pig. And guess what. He's still a prominent Tory MP.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/13/tory-mp-apologises-for-tweet-of-sadiq-khan-image-with-pig-balloon
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I know we joke about the 'nothing has changed' stuff, but it seriously cannot be normal that literally the same story that ran back in December about there being another meaningful vote being run depending on how big the defeat is, with hopes of it being around by around 100, is being circulated again with the dates changed and a 3 after MV instead of a 2?
I mean, that is bonkers. I know May has no other plan to get something agreed other than playing for time, but for heaven's sake MPs, you are going to be very clear how much you do not want to pass this deal, it cannot be beyond even your wit to realise it is time to pass something else to break the impasse?0 -
Brexit day never arrives.kle4 said:
So you're saying bad things will stop completely on Brexit day? Well that's a relief.Foxy said:
I am sure this little graph helps:TheScreamingEagles said:
Do you realise the UK suffers a downturn in that scenario?Floater said:
https://order-order.com/2019/03/06/german-economists-no-deal-will-hit-ireland-three-times-harder-uk/TheScreamingEagles said:
He's an MP looking to honour the referendum result.oxfordsimon said:
He's looking to prevent the disaster of No Deal, something Leavers said wouldn't happen/is Project Fear.
However, the Institut also modelled the effect of a “hard but smart” Brexit, where the UK left with no deal but also put in place large unilateral tariff cuts, more or less exactly along the lines of what what the Government is planning. In this scenario, the UK actually faces a smaller impact than the EU – they forecast a -0.5% impact on the UK compared to -0.4% for France and -0.48% for Germany, and -0.6% for the EU as a whole. Ireland is still by far the biggest loser, taking a -5.39% hit, ten times the size of the UK…
Not what Vote Leave promised the voters.
The fact the Irish suffer more than us will be no comfort to people in the UK who lose their jobs.
Which is that a 0.5% fall in GDP usually means.
https://twitter.com/carmen_mayes/status/1102986818209890304?s=190 -
See my earlier post of Hodges's tweet!Benpointer said:
I don't know, Man U have been transformed since May agreed her deal with the EU.El_Capitano said:
You could be away for a few months and Nothing Would Change. It's like Groundhog Day round here, but with real hogs.Richard_Nabavi said:Evening all. I've been away for a few days so maybe I've missed something, but am I right that Nothing Has Changed? Brexit still in utter chaos, MPs still chasing unicorns, Labour still consumed by antisemitism, Trump still batting off revelations which would have killed off anyone else's political career.
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Except we can't negotiate an FTA while a member of the EU.Foxy said:
I reckon plan B is a 21 month extension. So much the same as the WA in practice, just inside the EU rather than inside. We could leave straight to an FTA, except our negotiators have both the energy and competence of a dead snail.TheScreamingEagles said:So is the PB consensus if Brexit gets delayed for more than 3 months then Brexit will never happen?
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This clip with would be pig farmer Willie Rennie doesn't confirm much, other than politicians should avoid working with animals.Theuniondivvie said:
I believe pigs are unusually rather than massively endowed; the end of their penis is corkscrew shaped and locks into place during the act.Sean_F said:
If you can't laugh about a politician being buggered by a pig (or some other well-endowed animal) what can you laugh about?Chris said:
Well, who in their right mind wouldn't be amused by the thought of a Muslim being buggered by a pig? Of course.Chris said:
Oh right. When it's Islamophobia, it's OK if it's funny. Yes.Sean_F said:
It depends whether or not the cartoon was funny. We all had a laugh about David Cameron's encounter with a pig.Chris said:
So does everyone agree that because he is still a Tory MP, Theresa May is obviously a big Islamophobe and is facilitating Islamophobia in the Tory party?TheScreamingEagles said:
The Brexiteer Mickey Fab.kle4 said:
Which one? I'm shocked I have not heard of this.Chris said:Just out of curiosity, has any Labour MP ever endorsed a depiction of a prominent Jewish politician being buggered by a pig?
A prominent Tory MP has endorsed a depiction of a prominent Muslim politician being buggered by a pig. And guess what. He's still a prominent Tory MP.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/13/tory-mp-apologises-for-tweet-of-sadiq-khan-image-with-pig-balloon
I had a friend who trained as a pig farmer before deciding he was better suited to the antiques trade, just in case anyone thinks I have an excessive interest in the subject.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgSQ47iNJ3U0 -
Don't forget, WE HOLD ALL THE CARDS.RobD said:
Except we can't negotiate an FTA while a member of the EU.Foxy said:
I reckon plan B is a 21 month extension. So much the same as the WA in practice, just inside the EU rather than inside. We could leave straight to an FTA, except our negotiators have both the energy and competence of a dead snail.TheScreamingEagles said:So is the PB consensus if Brexit gets delayed for more than 3 months then Brexit will never happen?
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Indeed. I'm surprised no MP has floated my plan which is for everyone to just pretend we've left the EU even while we revoke A50.Benpointer said:
Brexit day never arrives.kle4 said:
So you're saying bad things will stop completely on Brexit day? Well that's a relief.Foxy said:
I am sure this little graph helps:TheScreamingEagles said:
Do you realise the UK suffers a downturn in that scenario?Floater said:
https://order-order.com/2019/03/06/german-economists-no-deal-will-hit-ireland-three-times-harder-uk/TheScreamingEagles said:
He's an MP looking to honour the referendum result.oxfordsimon said:
He's looking to prevent the disaster of No Deal, something Leavers said wouldn't happen/is Project Fear.
However, the Institut also modelled the effect of a “hard but smart” Brexit, where the UK left with no deal but also put in place large unilateral tariff cuts, more or less exactly along the lines of what what the Government is planning. In this scenario, the UK actually faces a smaller impact than the EU – they forecast a -0.5% impact on the UK compared to -0.4% for France and -0.48% for Germany, and -0.6% for the EU as a whole. Ireland is still by far the biggest loser, taking a -5.39% hit, ten times the size of the UK…
Not what Vote Leave promised the voters.
The fact the Irish suffer more than us will be no comfort to people in the UK who lose their jobs.
Which is that a 0.5% fall in GDP usually means.
https://twitter.com/carmen_mayes/status/1102986818209890304?s=190 -
Telegraph:
"Miracle in Paris".
"Brussels collapse"
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