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Good you're on board with deaths caused directly by welfare reforms, that'll give Esther McVey a warm, fuzzy feeling inside.blueblue said:
Apart from Section 28 and Mandela, to be fair!blueblue said:
Where are the negative reasons?OldKingCole said:
Perhaps, but which half? Like spending money on advertising. Half is wasted, but which half?Sean_F said:
Half of those are positive reasons to vote Conservative.OnlyLivingBoy said:
I guess everyone has their own reasons. Here's my own personal list:Sunil_Prasannan said:
Why?RochdalePioneers said:
Yes, I hate Corbyn. But I hate the Tories more.
Windrush scandal
Go Home vans
Cuts to school spending
Destroying local services by cutting council funding by half
The treatment of the miners
The poll tax
Testing the poll tax out in Scotland
Section 28
Young Conservatives with hang Mandela badges
Margaret Thatcher
Margaret Thatcher's voice
Tory attitude towards Ireland
Fox hunting
Welfare reforms that have led directly to deaths
Food banks
Cutting taxes for people like me who already have plenty of money
Boris Johnson and his garden bridge
Privatised trains
George Osborne's face
I'm sure I've missed loads and others will have their own greatest hits to add to the list.
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Is that right? She has served part of her sentence in prison - but can she vote in Westminster whilst still serving a sentence, albeit out on licence?Gardenwalker said:
As far as I can tell, Fiona Onasanya can still vote in the House. Her vote may indeed may prove decisive in coming weeks.Scott_P said:0 -
I suspect so. But the funny thing with Thatcher is that there's a (very) secret underlying support for her, even in the valleys. My mother-in-law, who was brought up in a crumbling farmhouse without running water, will quietly whisper in your ear that 'Thatcher was the best thing to happen to her'... mainly because she enabled her to buy her council house and borrow the money to get a lorry for her and my father-in-law's nascent scaffolding business. For every embittered lefty there'll be someone who is quietly happy that they were given a route out of generations of mining.Theuniondivvie said:
But Thatcher would still get shot, right?Fenster said:
Who was it who went into the strike with a big union and a small house and came out of it with a small union and a big house?TGOHF said:"The treatment of the miners"
Christ - time team stuff.
What about the behaviour of the miners towards the electricity users of the Uk and the police ?
I'm from a mining family in a mining village and if Scargill and Thatcher turned up Scargill would get shot first.
My grandfather was a surveyor for the NCB for 45 years. He hated both Thatcher and Scargill equally. No doubt it could've been handled better... but how could anyone have handled Scargill?!?!0 -
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One drawback of anonymity is that you would struggle to show that you have been libelled, unless you can show that the impact on your online pseudonym was sufficiently severe. It would be an interesting question whether semi-anonymous people like "Rachael Swindon" could be libelled.Theuniondivvie said:
I wonder if the bestselling author who called me a paedophile on here had that post removed in his great vanilla purge of everything gamey? Got a couple of big bills coming up.Pulpstar said:
Always best to be careful what you say online. If you're going to insult someone, make sure you don't defame their character is my golden rule.OldKingCole said:
Quite frankly, that's not a lot, even though costs are to be added. As the defendant didn't file a defence I wander whether he's a man of straw or rich enough to be 'not bothered'.Gardenwalker said:One of Brexit’s leading “intellectuals” fined £20k in libel damages.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6772425/Outspoken-Brexit-critic-wins-20-000-damages-ex-UKIP-candidate-branded-paedophile.html0 -
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She'd have to declare an interest though, wouldn't she? And how long does it take for Solicitors Regulatory Authority to stir itself into action? The General Pharmaceutical Council, with which I'm more familiar, seems to take about 6 months from a 'compliant' being made.matt said:
If the government decided to introduce new laws relating to solicitors’ conduct, she could vote on those, which is pretty close to remarkable. In essence she could create laws for people that her conduct means that she’s unfit to being part of.Gardenwalker said:
As far as I can tell, Fiona Onasanya can still vote in the House. Her vote may indeed may prove decisive in coming weeks.Scott_P said:
Even by the standards of laying, fraudulent, criminal MPs, that’s pretty remarkable..0 -
Sir Brian Leveson was the judge....I seemed to remember him from something or other.Scott_P said:0 -
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Good to see UK car sales on the up. No idea who is buying new cars though.0
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Ka - massive - boom!!!!Slackbladder said:0 -
That whooshing sound is the joke going over your head. It is based on Who Wants to be a Millionaire last night when a teacher settled for £500,000 because he could not answer the million pound question, Which of these Prime Ministers never served as Foreign Secretary?Morris_Dancer said:Mr. P, the use of language in that cartoon is the clunkiest I've seen since The Last Jedi.
Winston Churchill, Anthony Eden, Harold Macmillan or Sir Alec Douglas-Home Compare that with the question in the cartoon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFa0xE6Jll0
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"Mystery as Quadriga crypto-cash goes missing"
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I thought that was Philip Davies' job?Theuniondivvie said:
Good you're on board with deaths caused directly by welfare reforms, that'll give Esther McVey a warm, fuzzy feeling inside.blueblue said:
Apart from Section 28 and Mandela, to be fair!blueblue said:
Where are the negative reasons?OldKingCole said:
Perhaps, but which half? Like spending money on advertising. Half is wasted, but which half?Sean_F said:
Half of those are positive reasons to vote Conservative.OnlyLivingBoy said:
I guess everyone has their own reasons. Here's my own personal list:Sunil_Prasannan said:
Why?RochdalePioneers said:
Yes, I hate Corbyn. But I hate the Tories more.
Windrush scandal
Go Home vans
Cuts to school spending
Destroying local services by cutting council funding by half
The treatment of the miners
The poll tax
Testing the poll tax out in Scotland
Section 28
Young Conservatives with hang Mandela badges
Margaret Thatcher
Margaret Thatcher's voice
Tory attitude towards Ireland
Fox hunting
Welfare reforms that have led directly to deaths
Food banks
Cutting taxes for people like me who already have plenty of money
Boris Johnson and his garden bridge
Privatised trains
George Osborne's face
I'm sure I've missed loads and others will have their own greatest hits to add to the list.0 -
Yeah, my tongue was very firmly lodged in cheek.AlastairMeeks said:
One drawback of anonymity is that you would struggle to show that you have been libelled, unless you can show that the impact on your online pseudonym was sufficiently severe. It would be an interesting question whether semi-anonymous people like "Rachael Swindon" could be libelled.Theuniondivvie said:
I wonder if the bestselling author who called me a paedophile on here had that post removed in his great vanilla purge of everything gamey? Got a couple of big bills coming up.Pulpstar said:
Always best to be careful what you say online. If you're going to insult someone, make sure you don't defame their character is my golden rule.OldKingCole said:
Quite frankly, that's not a lot, even though costs are to be added. As the defendant didn't file a defence I wander whether he's a man of straw or rich enough to be 'not bothered'.Gardenwalker said:One of Brexit’s leading “intellectuals” fined £20k in libel damages.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6772425/Outspoken-Brexit-critic-wins-20-000-damages-ex-UKIP-candidate-branded-paedophile.html
I suspect even if my real name was my tag, it would be difficult to prove reputational damage of an obscure person by a slightly well known person on an obscure forum. If only I'd learned to dive and emigrated to Thailand..
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People wanting to avoid the 10% duty on cars from EU27.Brom said:Good to see UK car sales on the up. No idea who is buying new cars though.
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Note that Laura Murray's email was sent from outside the Labour party email system.Slackbladder said:0 -
Rarely have two people deserved each other more.SandyRentool said:
I thought that was Philip Davies' job?Theuniondivvie said:
Good you're on board with deaths caused directly by welfare reforms, that'll give Esther McVey a warm, fuzzy feeling inside.blueblue said:
Apart from Section 28 and Mandela, to be fair!blueblue said:
Where are the negative reasons?OldKingCole said:
Perhaps, but which half? Like spending money on advertising. Half is wasted, but which half?Sean_F said:
Half of those are positive reasons to vote Conservative.OnlyLivingBoy said:
I guess everyone has their own reasons. Here's my own personal list:Sunil_Prasannan said:
Why?RochdalePioneers said:
Yes, I hate Corbyn. But I hate the Tories more.
Windrush scandal
Go Home vans
Cuts to school spending
Destroying local services by cutting council funding by half
The treatment of the miners
The poll tax
Testing the poll tax out in Scotland
Section 28
Young Conservatives with hang Mandela badges
Margaret Thatcher
Margaret Thatcher's voice
Tory attitude towards Ireland
Fox hunting
Welfare reforms that have led directly to deaths
Food banks
Cutting taxes for people like me who already have plenty of money
Boris Johnson and his garden bridge
Privatised trains
George Osborne's face
I'm sure I've missed loads and others will have their own greatest hits to add to the list.0 -
Unite is labour, labour is unite...AlastairMeeks said:
Note that Laura Murray's email was sent from outside the Labour party email system.Slackbladder said:
All utterly dodgy on many levels of course...0 -
"The unregulated nature of cryptocurrency exchanges, plus the fact that so many use them to hold their coins rather than just exchange them, invites fraud," said security expert Dr Alan Woodward from the University of Surrey"JosiasJessop said:Off-topic:
"Mystery as Quadriga crypto-cash goes missing"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-47454528
Dr Woodward is head of No Shit Sherlock Studies.0 -
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-45572691
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-45572691FrancisUrquhart said:
They will witter on about community outreach.JosiasJessop said:
This is a big question interviewers should ask Labour MPs (rightly) complaining about the knife crime figures. If you want more police, how will they stop the crimes without targeted stop-and-search ?Sunil_Prasannan said:
I thought Stop and Search is racist!stodge said:Morning all
Extraordinary to see the Prime Minister's comments about the reduction in Police numbers not being related to rising knife crime not being more widely discussed. I suspect if you asked most people how they would combat crime the answer might be more Police on the streets (and more stop and search powers arguably).0 -
It's fine. We're all going to be employed to pick turnips in East Anglia replacing tracksuited Latvians of haphazard dentition. Or, if Corbo sweeps to power, there will be jobs aplenty rounding up jews in his Einsatzkommandos.Scott_P said:-1 -
Frankly , it should be a matter of 'whatever works'...sarissa said:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-45572691
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-45572691FrancisUrquhart said:
They will witter on about community outreach.JosiasJessop said:
This is a big question interviewers should ask Labour MPs (rightly) complaining about the knife crime figures. If you want more police, how will they stop the crimes without targeted stop-and-search ?Sunil_Prasannan said:
I thought Stop and Search is racist!stodge said:Morning all
Extraordinary to see the Prime Minister's comments about the reduction in Police numbers not being related to rising knife crime not being more widely discussed. I suspect if you asked most people how they would combat crime the answer might be more Police on the streets (and more stop and search powers arguably).0 -
BUT HER EMAILS !!!AlastairMeeks said:Note that Laura Murray's email was sent from outside the Labour party email system.
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Empty vessel crawls out from under its rockNigel_Foremain said:
Possibly similar to creepy claims from Nationalists that they are inclusive, with their efforts to convince the gullible that they are not really the nasty, hate filled bigots that we all know they are!Theuniondivvie said:
Decent list.OnlyLivingBoy said:
I guess everyone has their own reasons. Here's my own personal list:Sunil_Prasannan said:
Why?RochdalePioneers said:
Yes, I hate Corbyn. But I hate the Tories more.
Windrush scandal
Go Home vans
Cuts to school spending
Destroying local services by cutting council funding by half
The treatment of the miners
The poll tax
Testing the poll tax out in Scotland
Section 28
Young Conservatives with hang Mandela badges
Margaret Thatcher
Margaret Thatcher's voice
Tory attitude towards Ireland
Fox hunting
Welfare reforms that have led directly to deaths
Food banks
Cutting taxes for people like me who already have plenty of money
Boris Johnson and his garden bridge
Privatised trains
George Osborne's face
I'm sure I've missed loads and others will have their own greatest hits to add to the list.
I'd add the creepy claims to progressiveness in an effort to convince the gullible that they're not the same old Tories. Of course the last two and a half years have been a great cleansing corrective to that auld bollocks.0 -
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A no deal Brexit will simply mean they do it quickly. With a deal-Brexit they will have longer to achieve the transition.Scott_P said:0 -
On the face of it, those all seem very sensible approaches.sarissa said:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-45572691
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-45572691FrancisUrquhart said:
They will witter on about community outreach.JosiasJessop said:
This is a big question interviewers should ask Labour MPs (rightly) complaining about the knife crime figures. If you want more police, how will they stop the crimes without targeted stop-and-search ?Sunil_Prasannan said:
I thought Stop and Search is racist!stodge said:Morning all
Extraordinary to see the Prime Minister's comments about the reduction in Police numbers not being related to rising knife crime not being more widely discussed. I suspect if you asked most people how they would combat crime the answer might be more Police on the streets (and more stop and search powers arguably).0 -
Greetings! How was your rock, Malc?malcolmg said:
Empty vessel crawls out from under its rockNigel_Foremain said:
Possibly similar to creepy claims from Nationalists that they are inclusive, with their efforts to convince the gullible that they are not really the nasty, hate filled bigots that we all know they are!Theuniondivvie said:
Decent list.OnlyLivingBoy said:
I guess everyone has their own reasons. Here's my own personal list:Sunil_Prasannan said:
Why?RochdalePioneers said:
Yes, I hate Corbyn. But I hate the Tories more.
Windrush scandal
Go Home vans
Cuts to school spending
Destroying local services by cutting council funding by half
The treatment of the miners
The poll tax
Testing the poll tax out in Scotland
Section 28
Young Conservatives with hang Mandela badges
Margaret Thatcher
Margaret Thatcher's voice
Tory attitude towards Ireland
Fox hunting
Welfare reforms that have led directly to deaths
Food banks
Cutting taxes for people like me who already have plenty of money
Boris Johnson and his garden bridge
Privatised trains
George Osborne's face
I'm sure I've missed loads and others will have their own greatest hits to add to the list.
I'd add the creepy claims to progressiveness in an effort to convince the gullible that they're not the same old Tories. Of course the last two and a half years have been a great cleansing corrective to that auld bollocks.
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Yep. Conservatives like to talk about how there's no magic money tree, but they forget the money bonfires.Gallowgate said:
Or we could legalise and regulate.TGOHF said:One key way to reduce knife crime is for middle class types to stop snorting cocaine.
You’re never going to stop people taking cocaine recreationally.
Take the industry out of criminal hands.0 -
I like how it's now such a common subject of discussion that it's had to be reduced to an initialism like PR, AV or BBBJNQNS.Scott_P said:0 -
Love it, Sky News and The Guardian with something MAY happen IF something unlikely happens. Project Fear doesn't even deal in facts, it just hopes for the worst.Nigel_Foremain said:
A no deal Brexit will simply mean they do it quickly. With a deal-Brexit they will have longer to achieve the transition.Scott_P said:0 -
Why doesn't Corbyn just make a speech admitting he doesn't like Jews.
He won't lose any more support. The hardcore who fall at his feet will love him even more for it.0 -
I knew it but even with my 90% certainty I wouldn't have been willing to risk losing that amount of money. It's one of those things you have read in life and know with certainty otherwise you take the money despite having a strong inkling.DecrepitJohnL said:
That whooshing sound is the joke going over your head. It is based on Who Wants to be a Millionaire last night when a teacher settled for £500,000 because he could not answer the million pound question, Which of these Prime Ministers never served as Foreign Secretary?Morris_Dancer said:Mr. P, the use of language in that cartoon is the clunkiest I've seen since The Last Jedi.
Winston Churchill, Anthony Eden, Harold Macmillan or Sir Alec Douglas-Home Compare that with the question in the cartoon.
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Better known as "politics"Casino_Royale said:
Yep, a lot of irrational prejudice and confirmation bias.OnlyLivingBoy said:
I guess everyone has their own reasons. Here's my own personal list:Sunil_Prasannan said:
Why?RochdalePioneers said:
Yes, I hate Corbyn. But I hate the Tories more.
Windrush scandal
Go Home vans
Cuts to school spending
Destroying local services by cutting council funding by half
The treatment of the miners
The poll tax
Testing the poll tax out in Scotland
Section 28
Young Conservatives with hang Mandela badges
Margaret Thatcher
Margaret Thatcher's voice
Tory attitude towards Ireland
Fox hunting
Welfare reforms that have led directly to deaths
Food banks
Cutting taxes for people like me who already have plenty of money
Boris Johnson and his garden bridge
Privatised trains
George Osborne's face
I'm sure I've missed loads and others will have their own greatest hits to add to the list.0 -
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47452571
More stores for Mike Ashley in a years time ?
I've found this gem in the latest accounts of Caversham Finance (Trades as Brighthouse)...
"Considering all the above, the directors believe that the continuation of the funding facility and the conclusion of the High Cost Credit review representes material uncertainties that may cast significant doubt on the Company's ability to continue as a going concern."0 -
Yawn!! It is Project Realism now. The Fear piece is left to you guys; the Fear of the Foreigner, a sick exploitation which has been amply used by Farage, and continues to be used by thickos like Mark Francois. It is a very old and sinister tactic and it will do no one any good longer term, except exploitative politicians and journalists who will continue to stir up the gullible.Brom said:
Love it, Sky News and The Guardian with something MAY happen IF something unlikely happens. Project Fear doesn't even deal in facts, it just hopes for the worst.Nigel_Foremain said:
A no deal Brexit will simply mean they do it quickly. With a deal-Brexit they will have longer to achieve the transition.Scott_P said:0 -
Now, good people of Peterborough, it is time for you to act to remove this stain from our public life.FrancisUrquhart said:
Sir Brian Leveson was the judge....I seemed to remember him from something or other.Scott_P said:0 -
Fools and their money are easy parted. If anyone wishes to send me their life savings I promise to look after them very well.JosiasJessop said:Off-topic:
"Mystery as Quadriga crypto-cash goes missing"
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I'd be careful about pursuing that course. @Paul_Bedfordshire , formerly of this parish, actively wanted to shell DieppeSunil_Prasannan said:
Do you still hate the Germans for the Blitz??OnlyLivingBoy said:
I'm sure I've missed loads and others will have their own greatest hits to add to the list.0 -
She's one of the MP's who is blocking Brexit.HYUFD said:0 -
I would very much encourage her to march to leave. I am sure Russia, or maybe the United States might take her perhaps?HYUFD said:0 -
Yes, but reducing X from 1000 to 400 doesn't feel as bad as reducing X from 400 to zero.oxfordsimon said:
IIRC more were closed during the Wilson/Callaghan years than in the period from 1979 to the Miners' StrikePulpstar said:On mining, Labour closed plenty of pits !
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I think a fair observer would conclude that while the Leave side promised lots of things that have not materialised, the Remain side threatened a lot of things that have not materialised.Nigel_Foremain said:
Yawn!! It is Project Realism now. The Fear piece is left to you guys; the Fear of the Foreigner, a sick exploitation which has been amply used by Farage, and continues to be used by thickos like Mark Francois. It is a very old and sinister tactic and it will do no one any good longer term, except exploitative politicians and journalists who will continue to stir up the gullible.Brom said:
Love it, Sky News and The Guardian with something MAY happen IF something unlikely happens. Project Fear doesn't even deal in facts, it just hopes for the worst.Nigel_Foremain said:
A no deal Brexit will simply mean they do it quickly. With a deal-Brexit they will have longer to achieve the transition.Scott_P said:0 -
Has your mum confiscated your toysSunil_Prasannan said:
Greetings! How was your rock, Malc?malcolmg said:
Empty vessel crawls out from under its rockNigel_Foremain said:
Possibly similar to creepy claims from Nationalists that they are inclusive, with their efforts to convince the gullible that they are not really the nasty, hate filled bigots that we all know they are!Theuniondivvie said:
Decent list.OnlyLivingBoy said:
I guess everyone has their own reasons. Here's my own personal list:Sunil_Prasannan said:
Why?RochdalePioneers said:
Yes, I hate Corbyn. But I hate the Tories more.
Windrush scandal
Go Home vans
Cuts to school spending
Destroying local services by cutting council funding by half
The treatment of the miners
The poll tax
Testing the poll tax out in Scotland
Section 28
Young Conservatives with hang Mandela badges
Margaret Thatcher
Margaret Thatcher's voice
Tory attitude towards Ireland
Fox hunting
Welfare reforms that have led directly to deaths
Food banks
Cutting taxes for people like me who already have plenty of money
Boris Johnson and his garden bridge
Privatised trains
George Osborne's face
I'm sure I've missed loads and others will have their own greatest hits to add to the list.
I'd add the creepy claims to progressiveness in an effort to convince the gullible that they're not the same old Tories. Of course the last two and a half years have been a great cleansing corrective to that auld bollocks.
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Only if you use it to buy a tank.malcolmg said:
Fools and their money are easy parted. If anyone wishes to send me their life savings I promise to look after them very well.JosiasJessop said:Off-topic:
"Mystery as Quadriga crypto-cash goes missing"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-474545280 -
Hopefully enough for a few.Anorak said:
Only if you use it to buy a tank.malcolmg said:
Fools and their money are easy parted. If anyone wishes to send me their life savings I promise to look after them very well.JosiasJessop said:Off-topic:
"Mystery as Quadriga crypto-cash goes missing"
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Dieppe is a bit grotty - well it was when I was there in the early 80s...!viewcode said:
I'd be careful about pursuing that course. @Paul_Bedfordshire , formerly of this parish, actively wanted to shell DieppeSunil_Prasannan said:
Do you still hate the Germans for the Blitz??OnlyLivingBoy said:
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It's not though is it and you know it. Even when the arch Europhiles were jerking off about Nissan cutting jobs they soon had to backtrack when Nissan publicly said Brexit was not involved. Almost all Project Fear and Sky News/Guardian's scare stories revolve around 'might' or 'could' rather than being based upon actual events. It's all a bit desperate, and I say that as someone who completely understands many prominent leave supporters also have failed to deliver on their promises.Nigel_Foremain said:
Yawn!! It is Project Realism now. The Fear piece is left to you guys; the Fear of the Foreigner, a sick exploitation which has been amply used by Farage, and continues to be used by thickos like Mark Francois. It is a very old and sinister tactic and it will do no one any good longer term, except exploitative politicians and journalists who will continue to stir up the gullible.Brom said:
Love it, Sky News and The Guardian with something MAY happen IF something unlikely happens. Project Fear doesn't even deal in facts, it just hopes for the worst.Nigel_Foremain said:
A no deal Brexit will simply mean they do it quickly. With a deal-Brexit they will have longer to achieve the transition.Scott_P said:0 -
Yes, I find fish very relaxing too. You could put terrapins in one of them.malcolmg said:
Hopefully enough for a few.Anorak said:
Only if you use it to buy a tank.malcolmg said:
Fools and their money are easy parted. If anyone wishes to send me their life savings I promise to look after them very well.JosiasJessop said:Off-topic:
"Mystery as Quadriga crypto-cash goes missing"
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Another "surely that can't still be the case in 2019" one for Chope the Dope to squash.
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It didn't look great when I passed through last year, though like millions of others I just drove through it off the ferry.oxfordsimon said:
Dieppe is a bit grotty - well it was when I was there in the early 80s...!viewcode said:
I'd be careful about pursuing that course. @Paul_Bedfordshire , formerly of this parish, actively wanted to shell DieppeSunil_Prasannan said:
Do you still hate the Germans for the Blitz??OnlyLivingBoy said:
I'm sure I've missed loads and others will have their own greatest hits to add to the list.0 -
Imagine British Airways ending all in-flight announcements with "God Save The Queen"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-47451761
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Chope is one of those bringing in the bill, so I don't think he'll be objecting to this one.Anorak said:Another "surely that can't still be the case in 2019" one for Chope the Dope to squash.
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The areas around commercial ports and railway stations are almost always utter dives. Arriving anywhere by train means that when you actually get to the town centre, you're always surprised at how nice it is, after the miserable view afforded from the tracks.Pulpstar said:
It didn't look great when I passed through last year, though like millions of others I just drove through it off the ferry.oxfordsimon said:
Dieppe is a bit grotty - well it was when I was there in the early 80s...!viewcode said:
I'd be careful about pursuing that course. @Paul_Bedfordshire , formerly of this parish, actively wanted to shell DieppeSunil_Prasannan said:
Do you still hate the Germans for the Blitz??OnlyLivingBoy said:
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So given the choice between certain death now or possible death later, you'd choose the former.Nigel_Foremain said:
A no deal Brexit will simply mean they do it quickly. With a deal-Brexit they will have longer to achieve the transition.Scott_P said:0 -
[ Response deleted as excessively nerdy]Anorak said:
Only if you use it to buy a tank.malcolmg said:
Fools and their money are easy parted. If anyone wishes to send me their life savings I promise to look after them very well.JosiasJessop said:Off-topic:
"Mystery as Quadriga crypto-cash goes missing"
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And yet it meets all the criteria of those bills he often objects to? How very, very odd...andypetuk said:
Chope is one of those bringing in the bill, so I don't think he'll be objecting to this one.Anorak said:Another "surely that can't still be the case in 2019" one for Chope the Dope to squash.
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OT Hillary not running:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/04/us/politics/hillary-clinton-not-running.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&fbclid=IwAR3yNOkbW9sk2p2KV-GmtBcqYlCVzEGuxj0N6ANSwd36Yp-F-5AYP1_Sdr4
Also not planning to stfu and retire to a shed but you can't have everything.0 -
It's amazing. It's almost as if his stated and frequently-changing reasons for his actions are in actuality mere fictions.Anorak said:0 -
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And give them armoured cars ...edmundintokyo said:
I guess the solution is to do what the US do with funding speculative science and technology research: In their case military expenditure is politically bombproof, so they fund stuff as part of the military.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Royale, yeah, but police numbers do comfort the public, and attacking cuts is convenient for the Opposition and police (we'd be doing so much better if only the politicians would give us more money etc).
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Good stuff from the staggers.
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/economy/2019/01/why-uk-cannot-see-brexit-utterly-utterly-stupid
"what was once described as Project Fear transforms in time into “the people knew they were voting for that”. Claims there will be no short-term hit to living standards made before the referendum have now become “people knew there would be a short-term cost”
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Oh before I forget @shadsy asked last night for betting odds from 1992. I came up with something but it was a hell of a trudge. Is there an online database or downloadable file of historical political betting odds ? I know about betdata archive but I want something that goes back to the 60s. Happy to pay money for the file.0
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In Britain the voters want them "on the beat" so they're mostly going to be walking to whoever they're visiting.MTimT said:
And give them armoured cars ...edmundintokyo said:
I guess the solution is to do what the US do with funding speculative science and technology research: In their case military expenditure is politically bombproof, so they fund stuff as part of the military.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Royale, yeah, but police numbers do comfort the public, and attacking cuts is convenient for the Opposition and police (we'd be doing so much better if only the politicians would give us more money etc).
In Britain everyone wants more police, but actually stopping crime needs social workers and probation officers, so give the social workers and probation officers little helmets and make them part of the police.0 -
My nerdy sense caught you.viewcode said:
[ Response deleted as excessively nerdy]Anorak said:
Only if you use it to buy a tank.malcolmg said:
Fools and their money are easy parted. If anyone wishes to send me their life savings I promise to look after them very well.JosiasJessop said:Off-topic:
"Mystery as Quadriga crypto-cash goes missing"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-47454528
One of my (many) guilty pleasures is Combat Dealers, I believe they're aiming to restore or reconstruct a Jagdpanther, of which I wholly approve.
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Urban policing should be in the fashion of Dixon of Dock Green, and rural like Heartbeat.edmundintokyo said:
In Britain the voters want them "on the beat" so they're mostly going to be walking to whoever they're visiting.MTimT said:
And give them armoured cars ...edmundintokyo said:
I guess the solution is to do what the US do with funding speculative science and technology research: In their case military expenditure is politically bombproof, so they fund stuff as part of the military.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Royale, yeah, but police numbers do comfort the public, and attacking cuts is convenient for the Opposition and police (we'd be doing so much better if only the politicians would give us more money etc).
In Britain everyone wants more police, but actually stopping crime needs social workers and probation officers, so give the social workers and probation officers little helmets and make them part of the police.0 -
Varsi scathing about Tory anti-Islamic problems on WATO, saying they only ever take action when there is risk of publicity.0
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Maybe she is going to go TIG? (Although she has been pretty consistent on this issue for some time)IanB2 said:Varsi scathing about Tory anti-Islamic problems on WATO, saying they only ever take action when there is risk of publicity.
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So if both sides cocked up perhaps we should have a rerun?Sean_F said:
I think a fair observer would conclude that while the Leave side promised lots of things that have not materialised, the Remain side threatened a lot of things that have not materialised.Nigel_Foremain said:
Yawn!! It is Project Realism now. The Fear piece is left to you guys; the Fear of the Foreigner, a sick exploitation which has been amply used by Farage, and continues to be used by thickos like Mark Francois. It is a very old and sinister tactic and it will do no one any good longer term, except exploitative politicians and journalists who will continue to stir up the gullible.Brom said:
Love it, Sky News and The Guardian with something MAY happen IF something unlikely happens. Project Fear doesn't even deal in facts, it just hopes for the worst.Nigel_Foremain said:
A no deal Brexit will simply mean they do it quickly. With a deal-Brexit they will have longer to achieve the transition.Scott_P said:0 -
Cue Brexit 'realist' tough guys saying what's the big deal.
https://twitter.com/PeterStefanovi2/status/11028256443234549760 -
WE'VE GOT HIM. CONGRATULATIONS!!!Brom said:
It's not though is it and you know it. Even when the arch Europhiles were jerking off about Nissan cutting jobs they soon had to backtrack when Nissan publicly said Brexit was not involved. Almost all Project Fear and Sky News/Guardian's scare stories revolve around 'might' or 'could' rather than being based upon actual events. It's all a bit desperate, and I say that as someone who completely understands many prominent leave supporters also have failed to deliver on their promises.Nigel_Foremain said:
Yawn!! It is Project Realism now. The Fear piece is left to you guys; the Fear of the Foreigner, a sick exploitation which has been amply used by Farage, and continues to be used by thickos like Mark Francois. It is a very old and sinister tactic and it will do no one any good longer term, except exploitative politicians and journalists who will continue to stir up the gullible.Brom said:
Love it, Sky News and The Guardian with something MAY happen IF something unlikely happens. Project Fear doesn't even deal in facts, it just hopes for the worst.Nigel_Foremain said:
A no deal Brexit will simply mean they do it quickly. With a deal-Brexit they will have longer to achieve the transition.Scott_P said:
We've found the person who takes the statement of company management over an extremely sensitive political issue in their host country...AT FACE VALUE.0 -
But still the Leavers will bury their heads in the sand over Brexit. Once these manufacturers have gone they will not come back!williamglenn said:0 -
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So which unlucky candidate is going to be cursed by her support?edmundintokyo said:OT Hillary not running:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/04/us/politics/hillary-clinton-not-running.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&fbclid=IwAR3yNOkbW9sk2p2KV-GmtBcqYlCVzEGuxj0N6ANSwd36Yp-F-5AYP1_Sdr4
Also not planning to stfu and retire to a shed but you can't have everything.0 -
So everyone can double down on their cock-ups?Recidivist said:
So if both sides cocked up perhaps we should have a rerun?Sean_F said:
I think a fair observer would conclude that while the Leave side promised lots of things that have not materialised, the Remain side threatened a lot of things that have not materialised.Nigel_Foremain said:
Yawn!! It is Project Realism now. The Fear piece is left to you guys; the Fear of the Foreigner, a sick exploitation which has been amply used by Farage, and continues to be used by thickos like Mark Francois. It is a very old and sinister tactic and it will do no one any good longer term, except exploitative politicians and journalists who will continue to stir up the gullible.Brom said:
Love it, Sky News and The Guardian with something MAY happen IF something unlikely happens. Project Fear doesn't even deal in facts, it just hopes for the worst.Nigel_Foremain said:
A no deal Brexit will simply mean they do it quickly. With a deal-Brexit they will have longer to achieve the transition.Scott_P said:
In the meantime, as we wait many more months, more jobs bleed away through "uncertainty". Great plan....0 -
Bernie should avoid that particular "endorsement". My guess is that it might be Warren.Sandpit said:
So which unlucky candidate is going to be cursed by her support?edmundintokyo said:OT Hillary not running:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/04/us/politics/hillary-clinton-not-running.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&fbclid=IwAR3yNOkbW9sk2p2KV-GmtBcqYlCVzEGuxj0N6ANSwd36Yp-F-5AYP1_Sdr4
Also not planning to stfu and retire to a shed but you can't have everything.0 -
Well, yes, but this does work both ways. Firms going bust because of bad management or other economic conditions and blaming Brexit also can't be taken at face value.TOPPING said:
WE'VE GOT HIM. CONGRATULATIONS!!!Brom said:
It's not though is it and you know it. Even when the arch Europhiles were jerking off about Nissan cutting jobs they soon had to backtrack when Nissan publicly said Brexit was not involved. Almost all Project Fear and Sky News/Guardian's scare stories revolve around 'might' or 'could' rather than being based upon actual events. It's all a bit desperate, and I say that as someone who completely understands many prominent leave supporters also have failed to deliver on their promises.Nigel_Foremain said:
Yawn!! It is Project Realism now. The Fear piece is left to you guys; the Fear of the Foreigner, a sick exploitation which has been amply used by Farage, and continues to be used by thickos like Mark Francois. It is a very old and sinister tactic and it will do no one any good longer term, except exploitative politicians and journalists who will continue to stir up the gullible.Brom said:
Love it, Sky News and The Guardian with something MAY happen IF something unlikely happens. Project Fear doesn't even deal in facts, it just hopes for the worst.Nigel_Foremain said:
A no deal Brexit will simply mean they do it quickly. With a deal-Brexit they will have longer to achieve the transition.Scott_P said:
We've found the person who takes the statement of company management over an extremely sensitive political issue in their host country...AT FACE VALUE.0 -
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I wonder if one day we MIGHT see a Brexit Bad story where MIGHT doesn't do an almighty large amount of heavy lifting?williamglenn said:0 -
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Agree absolutely.Endillion said:
Well, yes, but this does work both ways. Firms going bust because of bad management or other economic conditions and blaming Brexit also can't be taken at face value.TOPPING said:
WE'VE GOT HIM. CONGRATULATIONS!!!Brom said:
It's not though is it and you know it. Even when the arch Europhiles were jerking off about Nissan cutting jobs they soon had to backtrack when Nissan publicly said Brexit was not involved. Almost all Project Fear and Sky News/Guardian's scare stories revolve around 'might' or 'could' rather than being based upon actual events. It's all a bit desperate, and I say that as someone who completely understands many prominent leave supporters also have failed to deliver on their promises.Nigel_Foremain said:
Yawn!! It is Project Realism now. The Fear piece is left to you guys; the Fear of the Foreigner, a sick exploitation which has been amply used by Farage, and continues to be used by thickos like Mark Francois. It is a very old and sinister tactic and it will do no one any good longer term, except exploitative politicians and journalists who will continue to stir up the gullible.Brom said:
Love it, Sky News and The Guardian with something MAY happen IF something unlikely happens. Project Fear doesn't even deal in facts, it just hopes for the worst.Nigel_Foremain said:
A no deal Brexit will simply mean they do it quickly. With a deal-Brexit they will have longer to achieve the transition.Scott_P said:
We've found the person who takes the statement of company management over an extremely sensitive political issue in their host country...AT FACE VALUE.0 -
Honda closing? They were not going to say it is because the UK has chosen this path because they still want to sell cars in the future to UK customers.MarqueeMark said:
I wonder if one day we MIGHT see a Brexit Bad story where MIGHT doesn't do an almighty large amount of heavy lifting?williamglenn said:
The reason why "might" is still used is because we have not left the EU yet. Once all these jobs and industries have closed for good in a hard Brexit it will be a bit late to start thinking they were not joking.0 -
I thought there were ongoing police investigations into this? How is that not sub-judice, Channel 4?Scott_P said:
Expect his lawyers to go for an injucntion in 5, 4, 3.....0 -
Varsi hates atheists.IanB2 said:Varsi scathing about Tory anti-Islamic problems on WATO, saying they only ever take action when there is risk of publicity.
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