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The Polling Matters podcast returns, with Keiran Pedley (now of Ipsos MORI) and Leo Barasi discussing the latest polling on The Independent Group. Just how popular are they with the public?
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If we are to press on with such a chaotic farce we should at least get the benefit of seeing politics realigned. Succinctness is not my strong suit.
Meanwhile those who aided and abetted their murderers, rapists and torturers should be put on trial over there.
And, more importantly, unhappy moderates in both parties now have somewhere else to go (accepting that for a variety of reasons the LDs weren't seen as such)
(((Dan Hodges)))
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Rumours new defection imminent.
https://twitter.com/DouglasCarswell/status/1098862361635622912
Incredibly moving.
Ian Austin
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2m2 minutes ago
Ian Austin Retweeted Express & Star
I have decided to leave the Labour Party and I wanted to tell people in Dudley first.
https://quoteinvestigator.com/2012/04/28/shorter-letter/
Pass the popcorn.
This is going to end up like those Rock Family trees books.
Meanwhile, in a bit of a reality check (thread):
https://twitter.com/OvePM/status/1098640251466207232
Austin was one of only three Labour MPs to vote for Theresa May's Brexit deal in the 15 January 2019 Meaningful vote (along with Kevin Barron and John Mann). In the same series of votes, Austin was one of 14 Labour MPs who voted against his colleague Yvette Cooper's amendment, which was designed to prevent a no-deal Brexit by extending the article 50 negotiating period.
Cracking live album they did in the 70s
with all our MPs party speed dating its hard to keep track
There seem to be 3 groups now in Parliament - those that dislike Corbyn, those that haven't gone public with their dislike of Corbyn and about 20 MPs in the Shadow Cabinet.
About 400 / 230 / 20 split.
You're spot on pointing out the hypocrisy of some, but at least, the Begum situation gives Jezza a chance to show his impeccable liberal credentials. He's probably still mourning over the 'murder' of Jihadi John.
The conditions in the refugee camp probably are very uncomfortable but nowhere near as uncomfortable as the conditions were for the Yazidis under ISIS.
But it's a matter of feeling superior for some people. They can see beyond the veneer of fairness and justice to see the real issue - legal justice for a British passport holder, even if she gave it up the first chance she got. It's not every day they get the chance to show their objective superiority. The fact that it shows to most people that they're verging on barmy doesn't matter.
https://twitter.com/iainmartin1/status/1098873709744570369
Honestly, Brexiteers are completely unhinged.
1) Those who want Libertarian Pirate Island and thought Brexit could achieve it as few people actually want unlimited immigration and no welfare state
2) The death culters who refuse to have any deals with the EU
3) Those who don't really want to leave the EU as it would mean having to take responsibility and no longer being able to blame Brussels for everything
4) Those who think opposition to any deal will improve their chances of becoming Conservative leader
5) Useful idiots of one or more of the above
I don’t think that account has any official connection to the Independent Group. I suspect it’s an over-enthusiastic wannabe.
https://order-order.com/2019/02/22/mcdonnell-strip-brits-fight-israeli-state-citizenship/
Has served the LDs well - well kind of.
Can't see TIG getting very far unless it is a rejoin party.
Fascinating to read the Evening Standard in London on the Shamima Begum issue.
https://www.standard.co.uk/comment/comment/evening-standard-comment-shamima-begum-is-a-briton-not-bangladeshi-keeping-music-alive-a4072841.html
Whether this is Osborne having a pop at Javid I'm not certain but it's always good for Conservative Home Secretaries (at least within the constituency of the Conservative Party) to talk tough even if they don't act tough.
I confess to being conflicted on this and especially because of the newborn. I can't get past the notion the baby boy deserves a chance at life and I don't see why depriving him of either his nationality or his mother is a good idea.
There's absolutely no guarantee he'll end up a radicalised Islamist - indeed, he may not but he deserves an opportunity at life for all his mother supports those who callously deny others the opportunity of living.
One of the many lessons worth learning in politics is the popular answer isn't always the right answer, indeed, very often it isn't. Doing the right thing in the face of opposition from the majority is what the principled politician should be about, not courting cheap and easy headlines.
https://twitter.com/tamcohen/status/1098874803010715650
https://twitter.com/Rachael_Swindon/status/1098877152416722944
What are you doing? Asks Tommy the tank,
Peter Rabbit is at it as well,
And the pixies are singing in Dingley Dell,
Fuck off Noddy, you stupid prat,
Fuck off Noddy, in your rotten hat.
The key bit I think is "the party of being tougher on people who complain about anti-Semitism than it is on racists."
If the Bangladeshi government really wanted to block the deprival of her British citizenship, it might be able to use these provisions of a 1972 presidential order (cited in the SIAC decision I've referred to before):
2B.(1) Notwithstanding anything contained in Article 2 or in any other law for the time being in force, a person shall not, except as provided in clause (2), qualify himself to be a citizen of Bangladesh if he –
(i) owes, affirms or acknowledges, expressly or by conduct, allegiance to a foreign state, or
(ii) is notified under the proviso to Article 2A:
Provided that a citizen of Bangladesh shall not, merely by reason of being a citizen or acquiring citizenship of a state specified in or under clause (2), cease to be a citizen of Bangladesh.
(2) The Government may grant citizenship of Bangladesh to any person who is a citizen of any state of Europe or North America or of any other state which the Government may, by notification in the official Gazette, specify in this behalf.
3. In case of doubt as to whether a person is qualified to be deemed to be a citizen of Bangladesh under Article 2 of the Order, the question shall be decided by the Government, which decision shall be final.
Whether ISIS should have qualified as a "foreign state" I doubt, but as the government's decision is final ...
It would fitting in a way if a British ministerial fiat were frustrated by a Bangladeshi ministerial fiat.
What does Jezbollah think - we should be told
I have to give thanks to PB in general for ideas and in particular EiT for 'Libertarian Pirate Island' and AM for 'Death Cult'.
The first comments referencing "A Man for All Seasons" also makes a good argument for not bending the law for "undesirables".
Essentially admits Labour right battle to regain party may now vitiated and unwinnable in long term
For that reason Labour moderates briefing more resignations are to come - some big numbers doing rounds
Was this posted yesterday?
Is this mandarin correct?