As everybody was anxious to know...Labour National Policy Forum election results are coming through
Scotland: 4 Momentum backed elected Wales: 4 Momentum East Midlands: 3 Momentum 1 Lab First West Midlands: 3 Momentum 1 Lab First South East: 4 Momentum North East: 3 Momentum 1 Lab First East: 4 Momentum
Looks like Labour will have to try to infiltrate the Momentum Party.
Interesting that your much maligned bin organisers, aka the actual activists invested in the party, all elected moderates.
And big up to the NE for at least choosing one moderate. #newlabheartland
I've never come across any Irish person who can't speak fluent English.
How many of them can speak Irish?
According to the 2011 census, 1.77 million people in Ireland claimed they could speak Irish, which is 41% of the population. While this looks impressive on paper, it says nothing about the level of Irish people have or if they ever use it. More revealing is the number of people who claim to speak it on a daily basis, only 77,000 people, less than 2% of the population....
Worst still, there are no people who only speak Irish (monoglots) left, even native Irish speakers are also fluent in English.
Have they decided how mother-tongue English speakers are going to get on in the EU when the UK leaves & English is no longer anyone's first-choice language?
English will remain the EUs working language
That's interesting, thank you - I hadn't heard that.
English is probably the best language in the world.
I've never come across any Irish person who can't speak fluent English.
How many of them can speak Irish?
According to the 2011 census, 1.77 million people in Ireland claimed they could speak Irish, which is 41% of the population. While this looks impressive on paper, it says nothing about the level of Irish people have or if they ever use it. More revealing is the number of people who claim to speak it on a daily basis, only 77,000 people, less than 2% of the population....
Worst still, there are no people who only speak Irish (monoglots) left, even native Irish speakers are also fluent in English.
Have they decided how mother-tongue English speakers are going to get on in the EU when the UK leaves & English is no longer anyone's first-choice language?
English will remain the EUs working language
It's like Washington DC: because it's no one's national language (officially) , it's a neutral choice.
Malta?
You need to wear more suntan lotion
Maltese is technically their official language. Despite almost no one speaking it.
They want her out. Not only is she Jewish she is a member of the wrong Labour Jewish group. Any member of the century affiliated Jewish Laboir Movement is I read taking £££ from Israel and pushing their agenda. As opposed to Jewish Voice for Labour who say the attack on JLM and other Jews by Jeremy definitekly isn't antisemitism
I hope they crow so much that the decent moderate MPs that still make up a good part of the Labour party break away and set up a rival parliamentary group
Is that all you got left.
Sad really
That post has all the vacuousness that I would expect of a Corbyn apologist.
What is "sad" is that a once great party ( I am not a supporter but can recognise them as such) has been taken over by a bunch of fruitcakes who idolise a man who is clearly not just not very bright but who also shows the ultimate in human stupidity; racist prejudice.
You would never vote Labour so your views are completely irrelevant.
Anyway Im off to drink Champagne and prepare for open selection
Going along with this is fine, until they turn on you: which they probably will at some point.
They want her out. Not only is she Jewish she is a member of the wrong Labour Jewish group. Any member of the century affiliated Jewish Laboir Movement is I read taking £££ from Israel and pushing their agenda. As opposed to Jewish Voice for Labour who say the attack on JLM and other Jews by Jeremy definitekly isn't antisemitism
If there are enough deselections thanks to the opportunity of boundary changes, as well as the general deselect all the jews and 'Blairites' approach, then we could end up with a substantial Independent Labour grouping in the Commons until 2022.
All polling is flawed, its just a question of degree. Polling has been so wayward, its difficult to believe any result is correct, even at the time of publishing. A day later, its fish and chips wrapping.
I find those numbers for the UK very hard to believe.
Me too. I expect that many people who did a gcse in a foreign language claimed they can speak it. I did four foreign language GCSEs but never studied them further. I wouldn't say I can speak any of those without admitting the severe limitations of my knowledge.
The UK figure no doubt will be boosted by immigrants and children of immigrants.
I find those numbers for the UK very hard to believe.
Me too. I expect that many people who did a gcse in a foreign language claimed they can speak it. I did four foreign language GCSEs but never studied them further. I wouldn't say I can speak any of those without admitting the severe limitations of my knowledge.
The UK figure no doubt will be boosted by immigrants and children of immigrants.
We have a lower proportion of immigrants than many of those countries though, France for example.
I've never come across any Irish person who can't speak fluent English.
How many of them can speak Irish?
According to the 2011 census, 1.77 million people in Ireland claimed they could speak Irish, which is 41% of the population. While this looks impressive on paper, it says nothing about the level of Irish people have or if they ever use it. More revealing is the number of people who claim to speak it on a daily basis, only 77,000 people, less than 2% of the population....
Worst still, there are no people who only speak Irish (monoglots) left, even native Irish speakers are also fluent in English.
Have they decided how mother-tongue English speakers are going to get on in the EU when the UK leaves & English is no longer anyone's first-choice language?
English will remain the EUs working language
That's interesting, thank you - I hadn't heard that.
English is probably the best language in the world.
I've never come across any Irish person who can't speak fluent English.
How many of them can speak Irish?
According to the 2011 census, 1.77 million people in Ireland claimed they could speak Irish, which is 41% of the population. While this looks impressive on paper, it says nothing about the level of Irish people have or if they ever use it. More revealing is the number of people who claim to speak it on a daily basis, only 77,000 people, less than 2% of the population....
Worst still, there are no people who only speak Irish (monoglots) left, even native Irish speakers are also fluent in English.
Have they decided how mother-tongue English speakers are going to get on in the EU when the UK leaves & English is no longer anyone's first-choice language?
English will remain the EUs working language
That's interesting, thank you - I hadn't heard that.
English is probably the best language in the world.
Korean has the coolest alphabet.
Burmese is good. It looks like drawings of naughty bits:
I've never come across any Irish person who can't speak fluent English.
How many of them can speak Irish?
According to the 2011 census, 1.77 million people in Ireland claimed they could speak Irish, which is 41% of the population. While this looks impressive on paper, it says nothing about the level of Irish people have or if they ever use it. More revealing is the number of people who claim to speak it on a daily basis, only 77,000 people, less than 2% of the population....
Worst still, there are no people who only speak Irish (monoglots) left, even native Irish speakers are also fluent in English.
Have they decided how mother-tongue English speakers are going to get on in the EU when the UK leaves & English is no longer anyone's first-choice language?
English will remain the EUs working language
That's interesting, thank you - I hadn't heard that.
English is probably the best language in the world.
Korean has the coolest alphabet.
Burmese is good. It looks like drawings of naughty bits:
The desperation by Farage and Boris to avoid a People's Vote will become greater as more turn away from the economic catastrophe that is heading our way.
Yet again Barnier is playing a blinder. How can people blame the EU for playing hardball as we approach the cliff edge when our own hard Brexiteers are in full agreement with Barnier?
The desperation by Farage and Boris to avoid a People's Vote will become greater as more turn away from the economic catastrophe that is heading our way.
The headline reminds me of "the day the polls turned". That headline was not exactly prescient.
I find those numbers for the UK very hard to believe.
Me too. I expect that many people who did a gcse in a foreign language claimed they can speak it. I did four foreign language GCSEs but never studied them further. I wouldn't say I can speak any of those without admitting the severe limitations of my knowledge.
The UK figure no doubt will be boosted by immigrants and children of immigrants.
That's a tiny number, often exaggerated by Xenophobes.
I've never come across any Irish person who can't speak fluent English.
How many of them can speak Irish?
According to the 2011 census, 1.77 million people in Ireland claimed they could speak Irish, which is 41% of the population. While this looks impressive on paper, it says nothing about the level of Irish people have or if they ever use it. More revealing is the number of people who claim to speak it on a daily basis, only 77,000 people, less than 2% of the population....
Worst still, there are no people who only speak Irish (monoglots) left, even native Irish speakers are also fluent in English.
Have they decided how mother-tongue English speakers are going to get on in the EU when the UK leaves & English is no longer anyone's first-choice language?
English will remain the EUs working language
That's interesting, thank you - I hadn't heard that.
English is probably the best language in the world.
Korean has the coolest alphabet.
Burmese is good. It looks like drawings of naughty bits:
But who can resist a writing system created by a monarch to enable his subjects to read ? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_Hangul The Korean alphabet, on the other hand, was designed so that even a commoner with little education could learn to read and write: "A wise man can acquaint himself with them before the morning is over; a stupid man can learn them in the space of ten days."
I find those numbers for the UK very hard to believe.
Me too. I expect that many people who did a gcse in a foreign language claimed they can speak it. I did four foreign language GCSEs but never studied them further. I wouldn't say I can speak any of those without admitting the severe limitations of my knowledge.
The UK figure no doubt will be boosted by immigrants and children of immigrants.
That's a tiny number, often exaggerated by Xenophobes.
The desperation by Farage and Boris to avoid a People's Vote will become greater as more turn away from the economic catastrophe that is heading our way.
I actually think you are right. JRM and Boris are overplaying their hand and moves to stop the process will gain traction, especially if they are seen to be in with a chance of a hard Brexit.
Indeed I would go as far as to say any possibilty of those two succeeding would see me want to stay
The desperation by Farage and Boris to avoid a People's Vote will become greater as more turn away from the economic catastrophe that is heading our way.
I actually think you are right. JRM and Boris are overplaying their hand and moves to stop the process will gain traction, especially if they are seen to be in with a chance of a hard Brexit.
Indeed I would go as far as to say any possibilty of those two succeeding would see me want to stay
Yet again Barnier is playing a blinder. How can people blame the EU for playing hardball as we approach the cliff edge when our own hard Brexiteers are in full agreement with Barnier?
Barnier is as arrogant as he is pompous who has compromised on nothing and will push us to the brink of No Deal, just as the EU's refusal to do anything on free movement made Brexit inevitable. In the end though May will cave to Barnier and agree a transition period where we stay in the Single Market and Customs Union and effectively in the EU in all but name.
However if she has not produced a FTA in that transition by the next general election Boris will strike on a full Brexit platform backed by Mogg
I find those numbers for the UK very hard to believe.
Me too. I expect that many people who did a gcse in a foreign language claimed they can speak it. I did four foreign language GCSEs but never studied them further. I wouldn't say I can speak any of those without admitting the severe limitations of my knowledge.
The UK figure no doubt will be boosted by immigrants and children of immigrants.
That's a tiny number, often exaggerated by Xenophobes.
An obscure Greek mathematician ?
Quite weirdly, I edited my post to delete a small x that appeared right at the front of it. I'm not entirely sure if it was me or the phone that capitalised the one at the front of xenophobes.
Yet again Barnier is playing a blinder. How can people blame the EU for playing hardball as we approach the cliff edge when our own hard Brexiteers are in full agreement with Barnier?
In the end May will cave to Barnier and agree a transition period where we stay in the Single Market and Customs Union and effectively in the EU in all but name.
However if she has not produced a FTA in that transition by the next general election Boris will strike on a full Brexit platform backed by Mogg
So you're predicting that parliament will vote for the EU's version of the Northern Ireland backstop?
There's a lot of talk. But will we see any action? Perhaps the boundary review will focus minds. If you are going to be deselected anyway, time to jump and have a shred of honour left.
The desperation by Farage and Boris to avoid a People's Vote will become greater as more turn away from the economic catastrophe that is heading our way.
I actually think you are right. JRM and Boris are overplaying their hand and moves to stop the process will gain traction, especially if they are seen to be in with a chance of a hard Brexit.
Indeed I would go as far as to say any possibilty of those two succeeding would see me want to stay
the tide is turning.
Farage, Boris and JRM will be guilty of a collective shooting in the foot if they are not careful
I will not support their idea of Brexit including telling Airbus to FO
I find those numbers for the UK very hard to believe.
Me too. I expect that many people who did a gcse in a foreign language claimed they can speak it. I did four foreign language GCSEs but never studied them further. I wouldn't say I can speak any of those without admitting the severe limitations of my knowledge.
The UK figure no doubt will be boosted by immigrants and children of immigrants.
That's a tiny number, often exaggerated by Xenophobes.
What a thoroughly shitty post. I have never seen JohnL post anything remotely suggesting xenophobia on his part. It is incorrect to capitalise the word, and you must desist from copying what the big boys say in the hope that it makes you look big and clever.
There is plenty of hard information on the internet about this: for instance
"The number of schoolchildren who do not speak English as their first language has soared by two-thirds in the past decade to nearly 1.3million amid fresh concerns about the strain immigration is placing on schools."
I quote that purely for the statistic, and because it is the second hit on google and the first one is about not speaking English well, rather than speaking something else.
Yet again Barnier is playing a blinder. How can people blame the EU for playing hardball as we approach the cliff edge when our own hard Brexiteers are in full agreement with Barnier?
In the end May will cave to Barnier and agree a transition period where we stay in the Single Market and Customs Union and effectively in the EU in all but name.
However if she has not produced a FTA in that transition by the next general election Boris will strike on a full Brexit platform backed by Mogg
So you're predicting that parliament will vote for the EU's version of the Northern Ireland backstop?
I certainly am. It's can kicking Limbo Brexit, covered by an ephemeral promise of an FTA.
it will be the Transition agreement, No Deal on 29th March or withdrawing A50. Amongst those the TA will look good.
Yet again Barnier is playing a blinder. How can people blame the EU for playing hardball as we approach the cliff edge when our own hard Brexiteers are in full agreement with Barnier?
In the end May will cave to Barnier and agree a transition period where we stay in the Single Market and Customs Union and effectively in the EU in all but name.
However if she has not produced a FTA in that transition by the next general election Boris will strike on a full Brexit platform backed by Mogg
So you're predicting that parliament will vote for the EU's version of the Northern Ireland backstop?
It is more likely to get through Parliament than Chequers yes which Barnier is now clearly dismissing so in effect we Brexit next March into a transition period but in reality nothing changes bar we remove the term EU from our passports, the single market and customs union, free movement, ECJ jurisdiction, payments to Brussels, EU led trade negotiations etc all will remain
Yet again Barnier is playing a blinder. How can people blame the EU for playing hardball as we approach the cliff edge when our own hard Brexiteers are in full agreement with Barnier?
In the end May will cave to Barnier and agree a transition period where we stay in the Single Market and Customs Union and effectively in the EU in all but name.
However if she has not produced a FTA in that transition by the next general election Boris will strike on a full Brexit platform backed by Mogg
So you're predicting that parliament will vote for the EU's version of the Northern Ireland backstop?
It is more likely to get through Parliament than Chequers yes which Barnier is now clearly dismissing so in effect we Brexit next March into a transition period but in reality nothing changes bar we remove the term EU from our passports, the single market and customs union, free movement, ECJ jurisdiction, payments to Brussels, EU led trade negotiations etc all will remain
Where will the votes come from? Do you think the DUP will vote for the WA including the backstop?
But you are not are you? The whole summer you have let the Tories do anything they like because Labour has been at war over the holocaust and its deniers.
As everybody was anxious to know...Labour National Policy Forum election results are coming through
Scotland: 4 Momentum backed elected Wales: 4 Momentum East Midlands: 3 Momentum 1 Lab First West Midlands: 3 Momentum 1 Lab First South East: 4 Momentum North East: 3 Momentum 1 Lab First East: 4 Momentum
Local Government result..... they’re going for the councillors... councillors know that politics is about priorities and balancing books, no matter your ideology and many have been around a long time. The mass deselection won’t be far behind.
I find those numbers for the UK very hard to believe.
Me too. I expect that many people who did a gcse in a foreign language claimed they can speak it. I did four foreign language GCSEs but never studied them further. I wouldn't say I can speak any of those without admitting the severe limitations of my knowledge.
The UK figure no doubt will be boosted by immigrants and children of immigrants.
That's a tiny number, often exaggerated by Xenophobes.
What a thoroughly shitty post. I have never seen JohnL post anything remotely suggesting xenophobia on his part. It is incorrect to capitalise the word, and you must desist from copying what the big boys say in the hope that it makes you look big and clever.
There is plenty of hard information on the internet about this: for instance
"The number of schoolchildren who do not speak English as their first language has soared by two-thirds in the past decade to nearly 1.3million amid fresh concerns about the strain immigration is placing on schools."
I quote that purely for the statistic, and because it is the second hit on google and the first one is about not speaking English well, rather than speaking something else.
1.3m is not "a tiny number".
I certainly didn't mean to cast any aspersions on DJL with my post. It was meant to be a silly dig at those who say only xenophobes (got control of the x now!) think there are lots of immigrants here.
Yet again Barnier is playing a blinder. How can people blame the EU for playing hardball as we approach the cliff edge when our own hard Brexiteers are in full agreement with Barnier?
In the end May will cave to Barnier and agree a transition period where we stay in the Single Market and Customs Union and effectively in the EU in all but name.
However if she has not produced a FTA in that transition by the next general election Boris will strike on a full Brexit platform backed by Mogg
So you're predicting that parliament will vote for the EU's version of the Northern Ireland backstop?
It is more likely to get through Parliament than Chequers yes which Barnier is now clearly dismissing so in effect we Brexit next March into a transition period but in reality nothing changes bar we remove the term EU from our passports, the single market and customs union, free movement, ECJ jurisdiction, payments to Brussels, EU led trade negotiations etc all will remain
Where will the votes come from? Do you think the DUP will vote for the WA including the backstop?
The DUP will vote for it as Northern Ireland will be under the same BINO as rUK, indeed I expect most MPs would vote for it bar Boris, Mogg, the ERG, Hoey, Field, Mann and Stringer
Yet again Barnier is playing a blinder. How can people blame the EU for playing hardball as we approach the cliff edge when our own hard Brexiteers are in full agreement with Barnier?
In the end May will cave to Barnier and agree a transition period where we stay in the Single Market and Customs Union and effectively in the EU in all but name.
However if she has not produced a FTA in that transition by the next general election Boris will strike on a full Brexit platform backed by Mogg
So you're predicting that parliament will vote for the EU's version of the Northern Ireland backstop?
It is more likely to get through Parliament than Chequers yes which Barnier is now clearly dismissing so in effect we Brexit next March into a transition period but in reality nothing changes bar we remove the term EU from our passports, the single market and customs union, free movement, ECJ jurisdiction, payments to Brussels, EU led trade negotiations etc all will remain
Where will the votes come from? Do you think the DUP will vote for the WA including the backstop?
The DUP will vote for it as Northern Ireland will be under the same BINO as rUK, indeed I expect most MPs would vote for it bar the ERG, Hoey, Field, Mann and Stringer
It will be a BINO with an expiration date of the end of 2020, but if that's followed by Canada+ it will mean an Irish sea border.
Security at home and abroad....should be interesting....I wonder how having a leader that is happy to help get an ISIS fund raiser out of jail for Christmas, while refusing to blame Russia for attacks on home soil fits into that?
Yet again Barnier is playing a blinder. How can people blame the EU for playing hardball as we approach the cliff edge when our own hard Brexiteers are in full agreement with Barnier?
In the end May will cave to Barnier and agree a transition period where we stay in the Single Market and Customs Union and effectively in the EU in all but name.
However if she has not produced a FTA in that transition by the next general election Boris will strike on a full Brexit platform backed by Mogg
So you're predicting that parliament will vote for the EU's version of the Northern Ireland backstop?
It is more likely to get through Parliament than Chequers yes which Barnier is now clearly dismissing so in effect we Brexit next March into a transition period but in reality nothing changes bar we remove the term EU from our passports, the single market and customs union, free movement, ECJ jurisdiction, payments to Brussels, EU led trade negotiations etc all will remain
Where will the votes come from? Do you think the DUP will vote for the WA including the backstop?
The DUP will vote for it as Northern Ireland will be under the same BINO as rUK, indeed I expect most MPs would vote for it bar the ERG, Hoey, Field, Mann and Stringer
It will be a BINO with an expiration date of the end of 2020, but if that's followed by Canada+ it will mean an Irish sea border.
It won't be followed by Canada+ as Barnier won't agree that for Ireland and the DUP won't agree that without Northern Ireland, instead I predict it will be BINO through the transition period followed by hard Brexit and Boris as PM by the end of 2021 before the general election in 2022
Yet again Barnier is playing a blinder. How can people blame the EU for playing hardball as we approach the cliff edge when our own hard Brexiteers are in full agreement with Barnier?
In the end May will cave to Barnier and agree a transition period where we stay in the Single Market and Customs Union and effectively in the EU in all but name.
However if she has not produced a FTA in that transition by the next general election Boris will strike on a full Brexit platform backed by Mogg
So you're predicting that parliament will vote for the EU's version of the Northern Ireland backstop?
It is more likely to get through Parliament than Chequers yes which Barnier is now clearly dismissing so in effect we Brexit next March into a transition period but in reality nothing changes bar we remove the term EU from our passports, the single market and customs union, free movement, ECJ jurisdiction, payments to Brussels, EU led trade negotiations etc all will remain
Where will the votes come from? Do you think the DUP will vote for the WA including the backstop?
The DUP will vote for it as Northern Ireland will be under the same BINO as rUK, indeed I expect most MPs would vote for it bar the ERG, Hoey, Field, Mann and Stringer
It will be a BINO with an expiration date of the end of 2020, but if that's followed by Canada+ it will mean an Irish sea border.
It won't be followed by Canada+ as Barnier won't agree that as you say because of Ireland, instead I predict it will be followed by hard Brexit and Boris as PM by the end of 2021 before the general election in 2022
If the backstop is agreed then he no longer has to worry about Ireland. They can do Canada+ with an Irish sea border, which the UK will be committed to by treaty.
Yet again Barnier is playing a blinder. How can people blame the EU for playing hardball as we approach the cliff edge when our own hard Brexiteers are in full agreement with Barnier?
In the end May will cave to Barnier and agree a transition period where we stay in the Single Market and Customs Union and effectively in the EU in all but name.
However if she has not produced a FTA in that transition by the next general election Boris will strike on a full Brexit platform backed by Mogg
So you're predicting that parliament will vote for the EU's version of the Northern Ireland backstop?
It is more likely to get through Parliament than Chequers yes which Barnier is now clearly dismissing so in effect we Brexit next March into a transition period but in reality nothing changes bar we remove the term EU from our passports, the single market and customs union, free movement, ECJ jurisdiction, payments to Brussels, EU led trade negotiations etc all will remain
Where will the votes come from? Do you think the DUP will vote for the WA including the backstop?
The DUP will vote for it as Northern Ireland will be under the same BINO as rUK, indeed I expect most MPs would vote for it bar the ERG, Hoey, Field, Mann and Stringer
It will be a BINO with an expiration date of the end of 2020, but if that's followed by Canada+ it will mean an Irish sea border.
It won't be followed by Canada+ as Barnier won't agree that as you say because of Ireland, instead I predict it will be followed by hard Brexit and Boris as PM by the end of 2021 before the general election in 2022
If the backstop is agreed then he no longer has to worry about Ireland. They can do Canada+ with an Irish sea border, which the UK will be committed to by treaty.
Which is why the UK Parliament won’t pass an EU withdrawal deal with the Irish backstop as the EU want it...
What a difficult dilemma for the Guardian. On the one hand he's black, and is threatened with deportation to Ghana, which he left at the age of 4, by the evil Tories in the Home Office, who are apparently unmoved by the fact that he has spent his time 'speaking with thousands of students'. Normally this combination would guarantee indignation at full throttle, but on the other hand he's a banker who was found guilty of causing a $2.3bn (£1.8bn) financial loss through fraudulent trading, which would normally guarantee that he deserved everything he got and more.
Can anyone direct me to Corbyn saying something that is either critical of Palestine or supportive of Israel? I have reviewed Hansard. Unfortunately Hansard re-sorts search results whilst you are reading but I couldn’t find anything in the 19 speeches mentioning Gaza, or the 141 mentioning Israel. After an interruption Corbyn does state that he is critical of rockets being fired into Israel as he is against all violence, but it doesn’t seem directly critical of the Palestinians. I’ve also looked on google news.
Any other ideas? I’d like to give him the benefit of the doubt.
Yet again Barnier is playing a blinder. How can people blame the EU for playing hardball as we approach the cliff edge when our own hard Brexiteers are in full agreement with Barnier?
In the end May will cave to Barnier and agree a transition period where we stay in the Single Market and Customs Union and effectively in the EU in all but name.
However if she has not produced a FTA in that transition by the next general election Boris will strike on a full Brexit platform backed by Mogg
So you're predicting that parliament will vote for the EU's version of the Northern Ireland backstop?
It is more likely to get through Parliament than Chequers yes which Barnier is now clearly dismissing so in effect we Brexit next March into a transition period but in reality nothing changes bar we remove the term EU from our passports, the single market and customs union, free movement, ECJ jurisdiction, payments to Brussels, EU led trade negotiations etc all will remain
Where will the votes come from? Do you think the DUP will vote for the WA including the backstop?
The DUP will vote for it as Northern Ireland will be under the same BINO as rUK, indeed I expect most MPs would vote for it bar the ERG, Hoey, Field, Mann and Stringer
It will be a BINO with an expiration date of the end of 2020, but if that's followed by Canada+ it will mean an Irish sea border.
It won't be followed by Canada+ as Barnier won't agree that as you say because of Ireland, instead I predict it will be followed by hard Brexit and Boris as PM by the end of 2021 before the general election in 2022
If the backstop is agreed then he no longer has to worry about Ireland. They can do Canada+ with an Irish sea border, which the UK will be committed to by treaty.
Why dont you both declare a truce and see what happens
Yet again Barnier is playing a blinder. How can people blame the EU for playing hardball as we approach the cliff edge when our own hard Brexiteers are in full agreement with Barnier?
In the end May will cave to Barnier and agree a transition period where we stay in the Single Market and Customs Union and effectively in the EU in all but name.
However if she has not produced a FTA in that transition by the next general election Boris will strike on a full Brexit platform backed by Mogg
So you're predicting that parliament will vote for the EU's version of the Northern Ireland backstop?
It is more likely to get through Parliament than Chequers yes which Barnier is now clearly dismissing so in effect we Brexit next March into a transition period but in reality nothing changes bar we remove the term EU from our passports, the single market and customs union, free movement, ECJ jurisdiction, payments to Brussels, EU led trade negotiations etc all will remain
Where will the votes come from? Do you think the DUP will vote for the WA including the backstop?
The DUP will vote for it as Northern Ireland will be under the same BINO as rUK, indeed I expect most MPs would vote for it bar the ERG, Hoey, Field, Mann and Stringer
It will be a BINO with an expiration date of the end of 2020, but if that's followed by Canada+ it will mean an Irish sea border.
It won't be followed by Canada+ as Barnier won't agree that as you say because of Ireland, instead I predict it will be followed by hard Brexit and Boris as PM by the end of 2021 before the general election in 2022
If the backstop is agreed then he no longer has to worry about Ireland. They can do Canada+ with an Irish sea border, which the UK will be committed to by treaty.
An Irish sea border is unacceptable to May, Unionists and the DUP so will never happen.
So as I said it will be BINO through the transition period then hard Brexit after no FTA is agreed
What a difficult dilemma for the Guardian. On the one hand he's black, and is threatened with deportation to Ghana, which he left at the age of 4, by the evil Tories in the Home Office, who are apparently unmoved by the fact that he has spent his time 'speaking with thousands of students'. Normally this combination would guarantee indignation at full throttle, but on the other hand he's a banker who was found guilty of causing a $2.3bn (£1.8bn) financial loss through fraudulent trading, which would normally guarantee that he deserved everything he got and more.
What's a 'progressive' supposed to make of this dilemma?
Panorama this evening contained some proper progressive whatabouty....Boy excluded from 5 different schools, known to the police due to gang activity, came back from Jamaica despite his family telling it wasn't safe to do so and was shot dead....but he would have been alive if the youth club was still open and it is totally wrong to exclude black boys from school as it guarantees they end up in jail or dead.
Security at home and abroad....should be interesting....I wonder how having a leader that is happy to help get an ISIS fund raiser out of jail for Christmas, while refusing to blame Russia for attacks on home soil fits into that?
'Security at Home' obviously refers to security within the Motherland of Russia.
Security at home and abroad....should be interesting....I wonder how having a leader that is happy to help get an ISIS fund raiser out of jail for Christmas, while refusing to blame Russia for attacks on home soil fits into that?
'Security at Home' obviously refers to security within the Motherland of Russia.
I presume they will be showing this new Putin show at the conference, as I am sure there will be a lot of interest.
Security at home and abroad....should be interesting....I wonder how having a leader that is happy to help get an ISIS fund raiser out of jail for Christmas, while refusing to blame Russia for attacks on home soil fits into that?
'Security at Home' obviously refers to security within the Motherland of Russia.
I presume they will be showing this new Putin show at the conference, as I am sure there will be a lot of interest.
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And big up to the NE for at least choosing one moderate. #newlabheartland
#FunFacts.
That could get interesting.
All polling is flawed, its just a question of degree. Polling has been so wayward, its difficult to believe any result is correct, even at the time of publishing. A day later, its fish and chips wrapping.
Do we? I don't.
Meanwhile your boss hangs around with people who are known to deny the holocaust happened at all.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/09/03/joe-biden-presidential-run-pittsburgh-806297
A Biden/Warren ticket is certainly an interesting prospect...
https://twitter.com/BrexitCentral/status/1036654889521303552?s=20
CDU/CSU 29%
SPD 17%
AfD 16%
Greens 14%
Left 10%
FDP 9%
Others 5%
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_German_federal_election#Poll_results
In fact Brussels dread Boris and JRM taking over so likely to help TM
https://goo.gl/images/9E2zbP
https://twitter.com/davidallengreen/status/783213763558268928?s=19
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_Hangul
The Korean alphabet, on the other hand, was designed so that even a commoner with little education could learn to read and write: "A wise man can acquaint himself with them before the morning is over; a stupid man can learn them in the space of ten days."
Indeed I would go as far as to say any possibilty of those two succeeding would see me want to stay
However if she has not produced a FTA in that transition by the next general election Boris will strike on a full Brexit platform backed by Mogg
I will not support their idea of Brexit including telling Airbus to FO
There is plenty of hard information on the internet about this: for instance
"The number of schoolchildren who do not speak English as their first language has soared by two-thirds in the past decade to nearly 1.3million amid fresh concerns about the strain immigration is placing on schools."
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/02/number-children-english-not-first-language-soars-two-thirds/
I quote that purely for the statistic, and because it is the second hit on google and the first one is about not speaking English well, rather than speaking something else.
1.3m is not "a tiny number".
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1036719983731138561
it will be the Transition agreement, No Deal on 29th March or withdrawing A50. Amongst those the TA will look good.
Why has everyone gone mad?
https://twitter.com/jg_ccpress/status/1036594564826636288
https://twitter.com/Archanjo7/status/1036719318791348228
Tinfoil hat time
But you are not are you? The whole summer you have let the Tories do anything they like because Labour has been at war over the holocaust and its deniers.
Pathetic.
NEC expected to adopt form of words used by International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/sep/03/labour-ruling-body-decide-antisemitism-definition
(And still the LibDems can't capitalise)
Night night comrades.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/sep/03/trader-guilty-of-uks-biggest-detained-prior-to-deportation
What's a 'progressive' supposed to make of this dilemma?
Any other ideas? I’d like to give him the benefit of the doubt.
Curiouser and curiouser.
So as I said it will be BINO through the transition period then hard Brexit after no FTA is agreed
best of luck with my orthopedic colleagues.