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Beyond the competence of Remainers?Anazina said:
Would the last Brexiteer to leave Britain please turn out the lights?MaxPB said:
Quite an internationalist bunch of xenophobic liars!HYUFD said:
Soon there won't be a PBBrexiteer left in the UK, they will all be in California, Spain, the UAE, Australia, Singapore etc.SeanT said:
I might have to emigrate until it is over. It's just so relentless and repetitive.JosiasJessop said:
I remember predicting that.SeanT said:Just realised Brexit is likely to dominate British political debate for the next three-to-five years. Maybe ten years.
Oh god.
Sunil may be the only PB Leave voter still sticking it out in Blighty!0 -
I thought you said Fight Club, and was about to mention the first ruleAlastairMeeks said:I'm about to leave work to pick up some shopping, and I will walk straight past Flight Club. I shall give you a report from the front line if there's anything of interest.
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It's almost as if there's a single massive unresolved issue around and about.FrancisUrquhart said:This thread has already descended to a carbon copy of about 1000 previous threads.
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It was an anemic performance.bigjohnowls said:
JICIPM I believejustin124 said:
Projected Vote Share showed the major parties neck and neck though.bigjohnowls said:KABOOM!!!!
Labour, 2350 councillors, +79
Conservative, 1332 councillors, -35
Liberal Democrat, 536 councillors, +75
Green, 39 councillors, +8
UKIP, 3 councillors, -1230 -
murali is another one who thinks democracy is overrated.HYUFD said:
It was the British voters who voted for Brexit, the Tory leader at the time backed Remainmurali_s said:"Not my side, Mr Max. It is the Tories who are in charge of everything. I don`t think there is any dispute about the incompetent mess they (that is you, IIRC) are making of everything."
So so true. The Tories are an incompetent disgrace. To be honest, a sharp operator like Barnier against a certified moron, David Davis and a sleazy friend of war criminals, Liam Fox was always going to be walkover.
The old adage rings true as ever before - the Conservative Party will put their own party interest ahead of the national interest every single time.
Brexit = a calamity!
Brexiteers = Idiots!0 -
Remainers would probably er, Remain.CarlottaVance said:
Beyond the competence of Remainers?Anazina said:
Would the last Brexiteer to leave Britain please turn out the lights?MaxPB said:
Quite an internationalist bunch of xenophobic liars!HYUFD said:
Soon there won't be a PBBrexiteer left in the UK, they will all be in California, Spain, the UAE, Australia, Singapore etc.SeanT said:
I might have to emigrate until it is over. It's just so relentless and repetitive.JosiasJessop said:
I remember predicting that.SeanT said:Just realised Brexit is likely to dominate British political debate for the next three-to-five years. Maybe ten years.
Oh god.
Sunil may be the only PB Leave voter still sticking it out in Blighty!0 -
Just like 5 years of EICIPM?bigjohnowls said:
JICIPM I believejustin124 said:
Projected Vote Share showed the major parties neck and neck though.bigjohnowls said:KABOOM!!!!
Labour, 2350 councillors, +79
Conservative, 1332 councillors, -35
Liberal Democrat, 536 councillors, +75
Green, 39 councillors, +8
UKIP, 3 councillors, -123
I guess some people never learn.0 -
Oh I'll still be here. Having lived and worked far too many years outside of England I would never chose to leave. Besides I am thoroughly enjoying the politics.HYUFD said:
Soon there won't be a PBBrexiteer left in the UK, they will all be in California, Spain, the UAE, Australia, Singapore etc.SeanT said:
I might have to emigrate until it is over. It's just so relentless and repetitive.JosiasJessop said:
I remember predicting that.SeanT said:Just realised Brexit is likely to dominate British political debate for the next three-to-five years. Maybe ten years.
Oh god.
Sunil may be the only PB Leave voter still sticking it out in Blighty!0 -
How many fronts do you want, Mrs Merkel?
German industrialists increasingly suspect that Mr Trump is spoiling for a fight and intends to go ahead with 25pc tariffs on European car imports, exploiting a national security loophole under US trade law as he did over duties on steel and aluminium. The EU currently imposes 10pc duties on cars, mostly aimed at curbing a flood of imports from Asia.
This could turn into a double drama for Germany if Brexit talks break down at the same time, leading to trade barriers with Britain. The German car industry might then face a sudden squeeze in its two biggest global markets.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2018/06/11/german-car-industry-fears-double-shock-trump-tariffs-brexit/?li_source=LI&li_medium=li-recommendation-widget0 -
That if repeated at a GE would result in a Labour/ SNP Government.Jonathan said:
It was an anemic performance.bigjohnowls said:
JICIPM I believejustin124 said:
Projected Vote Share showed the major parties neck and neck though.bigjohnowls said:KABOOM!!!!
Labour, 2350 councillors, +79
Conservative, 1332 councillors, -35
Liberal Democrat, 536 councillors, +75
Green, 39 councillors, +8
UKIP, 3 councillors, -1230 -
murali also seems not to understand that 'respecting' a result is not the same as 'supporting' it......but perhaps mural is the sort of leftie who thinks there is only one 'correct' way to think...Richard_Tyndall said:
murali is another one who thinks democracy is overrated.HYUFD said:
It was the British voters who voted for Brexit, the Tory leader at the time backed Remainmurali_s said:"Not my side, Mr Max. It is the Tories who are in charge of everything. I don`t think there is any dispute about the incompetent mess they (that is you, IIRC) are making of everything."
So so true. The Tories are an incompetent disgrace. To be honest, a sharp operator like Barnier against a certified moron, David Davis and a sleazy friend of war criminals, Liam Fox was always going to be walkover.
The old adage rings true as ever before - the Conservative Party will put their own party interest ahead of the national interest every single time.
Brexit = a calamity!
Brexiteers = Idiots!0 -
There would be no Coalition - maybe a minority Labour Government receiving support from SNP/Plaid/Green and possibly LDs on an issue by issue basis.bigjohnowls said:
That if repeated at a GE would result in a Labour/ SNP Government.Jonathan said:
It was an anemic performance.bigjohnowls said:
JICIPM I believejustin124 said:
Projected Vote Share showed the major parties neck and neck though.bigjohnowls said:KABOOM!!!!
Labour, 2350 councillors, +79
Conservative, 1332 councillors, -35
Liberal Democrat, 536 councillors, +75
Green, 39 councillors, +8
UKIP, 3 councillors, -1230 -
Do they serve them pineapple on pizza?CarlottaVance said:
Only on here....SeanT said:
I might have to emigrate until it is over. It's just so relentless and repetitive.JosiasJessop said:
I remember predicting that.SeanT said:Just realised Brexit is likely to dominate British political debate for the next three-to-five years. Maybe ten years.
Oh god.
In the real world, on the other hand, people have babies, buy houses, are gazumped, go on holiday, lose loved ones, watch movies......invite (must we really?) people to dinner drinks...
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Ladbrokes, Lewisham Latest
LibDems 1/2
Tories 6/4
The opposite of the figures in the header. The PoliticalBetting effect!0 -
The forecast of 285 Labour and 41 SNP by Curtis would be enough.justin124 said:
There would be no Coalition - maybe a minority Labour Government receiving support from SNP/Plaid/Green and possibly LDs on an issue by issue basis.bigjohnowls said:
That if repeated at a GE would result in a Labour/ SNP Government.Jonathan said:
It was an anemic performance.bigjohnowls said:
JICIPM I believejustin124 said:
Projected Vote Share showed the major parties neck and neck though.bigjohnowls said:KABOOM!!!!
Labour, 2350 councillors, +79
Conservative, 1332 councillors, -35
Liberal Democrat, 536 councillors, +75
Green, 39 councillors, +8
UKIP, 3 councillors, -1230 -
In the
Telegraph
Daily Mail
Sun
Daily Express
Guardian:
https://twitter.com/GdnPolitics/status/10062431436483584000 -
Only to find out what type of person they really are...Richard_Tyndall said:
Do they serve them pineapple on pizza?CarlottaVance said:
Only on here....SeanT said:
I might have to emigrate until it is over. It's just so relentless and repetitive.JosiasJessop said:
I remember predicting that.SeanT said:Just realised Brexit is likely to dominate British political debate for the next three-to-five years. Maybe ten years.
Oh god.
In the real world, on the other hand, people have babies, buy houses, are gazumped, go on holiday, lose loved ones, watch movies......invite (must we really?) people to dinner drinks...0 -
It's not very good for us, either. Here's the latest data on car exports to the US by country (2017):CarlottaVance said:How many fronts do you want, Mrs Merkel?
German industrialists increasingly suspect that Mr Trump is spoiling for a fight and intends to go ahead with 25pc tariffs on European car imports, exploiting a national security loophole under US trade law as he did over duties on steel and aluminium. The EU currently imposes 10pc duties on cars, mostly aimed at curbing a flood of imports from Asia.
This could turn into a double drama for Germany if Brexit talks break down at the same time, leading to trade barriers with Britain. The German car industry might then face a sudden squeeze in its two biggest global markets.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2018/06/11/german-car-industry-fears-double-shock-trump-tariffs-brexit/?li_source=LI&li_medium=li-recommendation-widget
Canada: US$43.8 billion (up 0.1% from 2013)
Japan: $40.7 billion (up 4.9%)
Mexico: $30.6 billion (up 49.4%)
Germany: $20.8 billion (down -19.8%)
South Korea: $16.1 billion (up 29.1%)
United Kingdom: $8.8 billion (up 71%)
Italy: $5.1 billion (up 221.1%)
Sweden: $2.2 billion (up 203.3%)
Slovakia: $2 billion (up 123.3%)
China: $1.8 billion (up 1,759%)
Hungary: $1.2 billion (up 202.7%)
Finland: $1.2 billion (up 11,883%)
South Africa: $1.1 billion (down -50.4%)
Turkey: $911.8 million (up 666.5%)
Spain: $816.9 million (up 4,572%)
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Entirely dependent on John Woodcock for its majority . Nice.bigjohnowls said:
That if repeated at a GE would result in a Labour/ SNP Government.Jonathan said:
It was an anemic performance.bigjohnowls said:
JICIPM I believejustin124 said:
Projected Vote Share showed the major parties neck and neck though.bigjohnowls said:KABOOM!!!!
Labour, 2350 councillors, +79
Conservative, 1332 councillors, -35
Liberal Democrat, 536 councillors, +75
Green, 39 councillors, +8
UKIP, 3 councillors, -1230 -
Sunil's only here until he's exhausted the country's trains and trams. After that, he'll head somewhere else.HYUFD said:
Soon there won't be a PBBrexiteer left in the UK, they will all be in California, Spain, the UAE, Australia, Singapore etc.SeanT said:
I might have to emigrate until it is over. It's just so relentless and repetitive.JosiasJessop said:
I remember predicting that.SeanT said:Just realised Brexit is likely to dominate British political debate for the next three-to-five years. Maybe ten years.
Oh god.
Sunil may be the only PB Leave voter still sticking it out in Blighty!0 -
That's a great bet if you can get it.
But its nothing like what's on offer at the moment.0 -
Indeed, pretty awful for us as well. The worst part is that no one knows what Trump wants to keep the tariffs down. He hasn't made that clear at all.rcs1000 said:
It's not very good for us, either. Here's the latest data on car exports to the US by country (2017):CarlottaVance said:How many fronts do you want, Mrs Merkel?
German industrialists increasingly suspect that Mr Trump is spoiling for a fight and intends to go ahead with 25pc tariffs on European car imports, exploiting a national security loophole under US trade law as he did over duties on steel and aluminium. The EU currently imposes 10pc duties on cars, mostly aimed at curbing a flood of imports from Asia.
This could turn into a double drama for Germany if Brexit talks break down at the same time, leading to trade barriers with Britain. The German car industry might then face a sudden squeeze in its two biggest global markets.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2018/06/11/german-car-industry-fears-double-shock-trump-tariffs-brexit/?li_source=LI&li_medium=li-recommendation-widget
Canada: US$43.8 billion (up 0.1% from 2013)
Japan: $40.7 billion (up 4.9%)
Mexico: $30.6 billion (up 49.4%)
Germany: $20.8 billion (down -19.8%)
South Korea: $16.1 billion (up 29.1%)
United Kingdom: $8.8 billion (up 71%)
Italy: $5.1 billion (up 221.1%)
Sweden: $2.2 billion (up 203.3%)
Slovakia: $2 billion (up 123.3%)
China: $1.8 billion (up 1,759%)
Hungary: $1.2 billion (up 202.7%)
Finland: $1.2 billion (up 11,883%)
South Africa: $1.1 billion (down -50.4%)
Turkey: $911.8 million (up 666.5%)
Spain: $816.9 million (up 4,572%)0 -
So Jez relies on Chuka to pass legislation.bigjohnowls said:
The forecast of 285 Labour and 41 SNP by Curtis would be enough.justin124 said:
There would be no Coalition - maybe a minority Labour Government receiving support from SNP/Plaid/Green and possibly LDs on an issue by issue basis.bigjohnowls said:
That if repeated at a GE would result in a Labour/ SNP Government.Jonathan said:
It was an anemic performance.bigjohnowls said:
JICIPM I believejustin124 said:
Projected Vote Share showed the major parties neck and neck though.bigjohnowls said:KABOOM!!!!
Labour, 2350 councillors, +79
Conservative, 1332 councillors, -35
Liberal Democrat, 536 councillors, +75
Green, 39 councillors, +8
UKIP, 3 councillors, -1230 -
They definitely have those up Hanley...and doesn’t cost £15/hr to partake.Freggles said:
I thought you said Fight Club, and was about to mention the first ruleAlastairMeeks said:I'm about to leave work to pick up some shopping, and I will walk straight past Flight Club. I shall give you a report from the front line if there's anything of interest.
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The PLP is clearly a massive problem. IMO Mandatory Reselection is the only sensible way forward.MaxPB said:
So Jez relies on Chuka to pass legislation.bigjohnowls said:
The forecast of 285 Labour and 41 SNP by Curtis would be enough.justin124 said:
There would be no Coalition - maybe a minority Labour Government receiving support from SNP/Plaid/Green and possibly LDs on an issue by issue basis.bigjohnowls said:
That if repeated at a GE would result in a Labour/ SNP Government.Jonathan said:
It was an anemic performance.bigjohnowls said:
JICIPM I believejustin124 said:
Projected Vote Share showed the major parties neck and neck though.bigjohnowls said:KABOOM!!!!
Labour, 2350 councillors, +79
Conservative, 1332 councillors, -35
Liberal Democrat, 536 councillors, +75
Green, 39 councillors, +8
UKIP, 3 councillors, -1230 -
But it would be a minority Labour Government.bigjohnowls said:
The forecast of 285 Labour and 41 SNP by Curtis would be enough.justin124 said:
There would be no Coalition - maybe a minority Labour Government receiving support from SNP/Plaid/Green and possibly LDs on an issue by issue basis.bigjohnowls said:
That if repeated at a GE would result in a Labour/ SNP Government.Jonathan said:
It was an anemic performance.bigjohnowls said:
JICIPM I believejustin124 said:
Projected Vote Share showed the major parties neck and neck though.bigjohnowls said:KABOOM!!!!
Labour, 2350 councillors, +79
Conservative, 1332 councillors, -35
Liberal Democrat, 536 councillors, +75
Green, 39 councillors, +8
UKIP, 3 councillors, -1230 -
I don't think they did.bigjohnowls said:0 -
Quite a jump!rcs1000 said:
It's not very good for us, either. Here's the latest data on car exports to the US by country (2017):CarlottaVance said:How many fronts do you want, Mrs Merkel?
German industrialists increasingly suspect that Mr Trump is spoiling for a fight and intends to go ahead with 25pc tariffs on European car imports, exploiting a national security loophole under US trade law as he did over duties on steel and aluminium. The EU currently imposes 10pc duties on cars, mostly aimed at curbing a flood of imports from Asia.
This could turn into a double drama for Germany if Brexit talks break down at the same time, leading to trade barriers with Britain. The German car industry might then face a sudden squeeze in its two biggest global markets.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2018/06/11/german-car-industry-fears-double-shock-trump-tariffs-brexit/?li_source=LI&li_medium=li-recommendation-widget
United Kingdom: $8.8 billion (up 71%)
And unlike many of those countries the US has a goods surplus with us - how brave is Trump feeling?0 -
And a 25% tariff would destroy all of that progress. It's a poor idea for everyone.CarlottaVance said:
Quite a jump!rcs1000 said:
It's not very good for us, either. Here's the latest data on car exports to the US by country (2017):CarlottaVance said:How many fronts do you want, Mrs Merkel?
German industrialists increasingly suspect that Mr Trump is spoiling for a fight and intends to go ahead with 25pc tariffs on European car imports, exploiting a national security loophole under US trade law as he did over duties on steel and aluminium. The EU currently imposes 10pc duties on cars, mostly aimed at curbing a flood of imports from Asia.
This could turn into a double drama for Germany if Brexit talks break down at the same time, leading to trade barriers with Britain. The German car industry might then face a sudden squeeze in its two biggest global markets.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2018/06/11/german-car-industry-fears-double-shock-trump-tariffs-brexit/?li_source=LI&li_medium=li-recommendation-widget
United Kingdom: $8.8 billion (up 71%)0 -
Personally, I think the value is on the Tories in second, so glad to see the shift.logical_song said:Ladbrokes, Lewisham Latest
LibDems 1/2
Tories 6/4
The opposite of the figures in the header. The PoliticalBetting effect!
Tories are more likely to turnout, the rabble of feuding populists will fight over scraps, and in inner city seats Tories don't do Tactical Voting.
I reckon: Lab 55%, Tories 21%, LD 17%, Others 7%.
For Britain to beat UKIP at 5/2 as well.
Last place: The Radical Party.
Based on my own guesswork in the garden.0 -
So Jez relies on Chuka to pass legislation.bigjohnowls said:
The PLP is clearly a massive problem. IMO Mandatory Reselection is the only sensible way forward.MaxPB said:
So Jez relies on Chuka to pass legislation.bigjohnowls said:
The forecast of 285 Labour and 41 SNP by Curtis would be enough.justin124 said:
There would be no Coalition - maybe a minority Labour Government receiving support from SNP/Plaid/Green and possibly LDs on an issue by issue basis.bigjohnowls said:
That if repeated at a GE would result in a Labour/ SNP Government.Jonathan said:
It was an anemic performance.bigjohnowls said:
JICIPM I believejustin124 said:
Projected Vote Share showed the major parties neck and neck though.bigjohnowls said:KABOOM!!!!
Labour, 2350 councillors, +79
Conservative, 1332 councillors, -35
Liberal Democrat, 536 councillors, +75
Green, 39 councillors, +8
UKIP, 3 councillors, -1230 -
For Charles and all the other PBers who have been eagerly awaiting today's Tesco Strawberry score I have bad news.
I haven't been.
But do not totally despair for here is today's Sainsbury Strawberry score.
Angus
Fife
Perthshire
Yorkshire
Staffordshire
Norfolk
Only a 6 compared to the 8-11 which Tesco have been managing as Sainsbury don't do the myriad range of quality and quantity which Tesco manage.
But the addition of two new counties is very exciting.
There is a definite east / west split developing with only Herefordshire and Somerset as suppliers from western Britain from the four Scottish and twelve English counties.
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Its a terrible idea all round (though given what we export, I'm not sure its that price sensitive...)MaxPB said:
And a 25% tariff would destroy all of that progress. It's a poor idea for everyone.CarlottaVance said:
Quite a jump!rcs1000 said:
It's not very good for us, either. Here's the latest data on car exports to the US by country (2017):CarlottaVance said:How many fronts do you want, Mrs Merkel?
German industrialists increasingly suspect that Mr Trump is spoiling for a fight and intends to go ahead with 25pc tariffs on European car imports, exploiting a national security loophole under US trade law as he did over duties on steel and aluminium. The EU currently imposes 10pc duties on cars, mostly aimed at curbing a flood of imports from Asia.
This could turn into a double drama for Germany if Brexit talks break down at the same time, leading to trade barriers with Britain. The German car industry might then face a sudden squeeze in its two biggest global markets.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2018/06/11/german-car-industry-fears-double-shock-trump-tariffs-brexit/?li_source=LI&li_medium=li-recommendation-widget
United Kingdom: $8.8 billion (up 71%)
Does Trump want to start a trade war with a country he has a goods surplus with?0 -
Absolutely massive American Supreme Court decision with regards to voter registration.
To follow on from the laughably crazy Shelby County decision this latest one will see a mass purge of voter rolls across the country.
Will have big effect on the mid terms. I hadn't even been considering it as I thought it would be done and dusted.0 -
He wants bilateral deals in which every country pays 'tribute' to the US to show that we all know our place.MaxPB said:
Indeed, pretty awful for us as well. The worst part is that no one knows what Trump wants to keep the tariffs down. He hasn't made that clear at all.rcs1000 said:
It's not very good for us, either. Here's the latest data on car exports to the US by country (2017):CarlottaVance said:How many fronts do you want, Mrs Merkel?
German industrialists increasingly suspect that Mr Trump is spoiling for a fight and intends to go ahead with 25pc tariffs on European car imports, exploiting a national security loophole under US trade law as he did over duties on steel and aluminium. The EU currently imposes 10pc duties on cars, mostly aimed at curbing a flood of imports from Asia.
This could turn into a double drama for Germany if Brexit talks break down at the same time, leading to trade barriers with Britain. The German car industry might then face a sudden squeeze in its two biggest global markets.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2018/06/11/german-car-industry-fears-double-shock-trump-tariffs-brexit/?li_source=LI&li_medium=li-recommendation-widget
Canada: US$43.8 billion (up 0.1% from 2013)
Japan: $40.7 billion (up 4.9%)
Mexico: $30.6 billion (up 49.4%)
Germany: $20.8 billion (down -19.8%)
South Korea: $16.1 billion (up 29.1%)
United Kingdom: $8.8 billion (up 71%)
Italy: $5.1 billion (up 221.1%)
Sweden: $2.2 billion (up 203.3%)
Slovakia: $2 billion (up 123.3%)
China: $1.8 billion (up 1,759%)
Hungary: $1.2 billion (up 202.7%)
Finland: $1.2 billion (up 11,883%)
South Africa: $1.1 billion (down -50.4%)
Turkey: $911.8 million (up 666.5%)
Spain: $816.9 million (up 4,572%)0 -
another_richard said:
For Charles and all the other PBers who have been eagerly awaiting today's Tesco Strawberry score I have bad news.
I haven't been.
But do not totally despair here is today's Sainsbury Strawberry score.
Angus
Fife
Perthshire
Yorkshire
Staffordshire
Norfolk
Only a 6 compared to the 8-11 which Tesco have been managing as Sainsbury don't do the myriad range of quality and quantity which Tesco manage.
But the addition of two new counties is very exciting.
There is a definite east / west split developing with only Herefordshire and Somerset as suppliers from western Britain from the four Scottish and twelve English counties.
These updates are one of the charming things about PB. Please continueanother_richard said:For Charles and all the other PBers who have been eagerly awaiting today's Tesco Strawberry score I have bad news.
I haven't been.
But do not totally despair here is today's Sainsbury Strawberry score.
Angus
Fife
Perthshire
Yorkshire
Staffordshire
Norfolk
Only a 6 compared to the 8-11 which Tesco have been managing as Sainsbury don't do the myriad range of quality and quantity which Tesco manage.
But the addition of two new counties is very exciting.
There is a definite east / west split developing with only Herefordshire and Somerset as suppliers from western Britain from the four Scottish and twelve English counties. 0 -
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If so, she might have made the effort to get the quote right.Anazina said:
Carlotta is referring to Shakespeare’s original wording, which is presumed to be a lavatorial joke by the Bard.MaxPB said:
Indeed. To be hoist be one's own petard.Nigelb said:
Petard is quite correct.CarlottaVance said:
pedant mode Hoist with your own petar' / pedant modeAnazina said:
Hoist by your own petard.SeanT said:
I might have to emigrate until it is over. It's just so relentless and repetitive.JosiasJessop said:
I remember predicting that.SeanT said:Just realised Brexit is likely to dominate British political debate for the next three-to-five years. Maybe ten years.
Oh god.
I know you're such a stickler for accuracy.....
Outside of that context, petard is the correct usage.
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Seems like a mental decision, "use it or lose it" is complete bullshit. I'm sure GOP state legislatures are rushing through the statutes right now.Alistair said:Absolutely massive American Supreme Court decision with regards to voter registration.
To follow on from the laughably crazy Shelby County decision this latest one will see a mass purge of voter rolls across the country.
Will have big effect on the mid terms. I hadn't even been considering it as I thought it would be done and dusted.0 -
Some pretty poor economic data today.
I did repeatedly point out to the ra-ra boys that the rise in Sterling during the winter (together with the slowdown in the EuroZone) was not good news.
I suppose a silver lining is that it has shown that the BoE didn't have a clue as to the underlying strength of the economy with its eagerness to raise interest rates.
With the employment data tomorrow one thing I'll be looking out for is to see if the retail apocalypse has had an impact on the number of redunancies.0 -
Question for PB brains’ trust:
For the debates tomorrow and on Wednesday, will the amendments be voted en bloc at the very end? Or will each be voted on after it has been debated, so being spread across the 2 days?0 -
I did. TR got it wrong.Nigelb said:
If so, she might have made the effort to get the quote right.Anazina said:
Carlotta is referring to Shakespeare’s original wording, which is presumed to be a lavatorial joke by the Bard.MaxPB said:
Indeed. To be hoist be one's own petard.Nigelb said:
Petard is quite correct.CarlottaVance said:
pedant mode Hoist with your own petar' / pedant modeAnazina said:
Hoist by your own petard.SeanT said:
I might have to emigrate until it is over. It's just so relentless and repetitive.JosiasJessop said:
I remember predicting that.SeanT said:Just realised Brexit is likely to dominate British political debate for the next three-to-five years. Maybe ten years.
Oh god.
I know you're such a stickler for accuracy.....
My other pet hate is 'Methinks the lady doth protest too much'....0 -
Did we miss Arron Banks’ select committee appearance? When is/was that?RoyalBlue said:Question for PB brains’ trust:
For the debates tomorrow and on Wednesday, will the amendments be voted en bloc at the very end? Or will each be voted on after it has been debated, so being spread across the 2 days?0 -
These updates are one of the charming things about PB. Please continueanother_richard said:For Charles and all the other PBers who have been eagerly awaiting today's Tesco Strawberry score I have bad news.
I haven't been.
But do not totally despair here is today's Sainsbury Strawberry score.
Angus
Fife
Perthshire
Yorkshire
Staffordshire
Norfolk
Only a 6 compared to the 8-11 which Tesco have been managing as Sainsbury don't do the myriad range of quality and quantity which Tesco manage.
But the addition of two new counties is very exciting.
There is a definite east / west split developing with only Herefordshire and Somerset as suppliers from western Britain from the four Scottish and twelve English counties.
PB is great because of the wide range of oddball knowledge and interests represented here.0 -
I have a perhaps-stupid question: how accurate is the labelling? ISTR there was a little issue recently with labelling of products; with imaginary farms designed to lure customers. By law, how accurate do such labels have to be? For example, if they're labelled 'Fife' and they were actually grown in Norfolk?another_richard said:For Charles and all the other PBers who have been eagerly awaiting today's Tesco Strawberry score I have bad news.
I haven't been.
But do not totally despair here is today's Sainsbury Strawberry score.
Angus
Fife
Perthshire
Yorkshire
Staffordshire
Norfolk
Only a 6 compared to the 8-11 which Tesco have been managing as Sainsbury don't do the myriad range of quality and quantity which Tesco manage.
But the addition of two new counties is very exciting.
There is a definite east / west split developing with only Herefordshire and Somerset as suppliers from western Britain from the four Scottish and twelve English counties.
(I'm not doubting your anecdata.)
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/tesco-and-other-supermarkets-using-fake-farm-brands-spark-complaint-from-nfu-a7144551.html0 -
Indeed.Nigelb said:
If so, she might have made the effort to get the quote right.Anazina said:
Carlotta is referring to Shakespeare’s original wording, which is presumed to be a lavatorial joke by the Bard.MaxPB said:
Indeed. To be hoist be one's own petard.Nigelb said:
Petard is quite correct.CarlottaVance said:
pedant mode Hoist with your own petar' / pedant modeAnazina said:
Hoist by your own petard.SeanT said:
I might have to emigrate until it is over. It's just so relentless and repetitive.JosiasJessop said:
I remember predicting that.SeanT said:Just realised Brexit is likely to dominate British political debate for the next three-to-five years. Maybe ten years.
Oh god.
I know you're such a stickler for accuracy.....
Outside of that context, petard is the correct usage.
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Not quite true to say David Davis left Brussels empty handed. He negotiated a croissant out of Barnier.CarlottaVance said:
https://twitter.com/adamfleming/status/10061859421792952330 -
Really glad I don’t live in the States. Can’t even begin to imagine what many marginalised groups must be feeling under Trump’s presidency there.Alistair said:Absolutely massive American Supreme Court decision with regards to voter registration.
To follow on from the laughably crazy Shelby County decision this latest one will see a mass purge of voter rolls across the country.
Will have big effect on the mid terms. I hadn't even been considering it as I thought it would be done and dusted.0 -
Why?Sean_F said:
I don't think they did.bigjohnowls said:
More than 54% of all the votes cast
More Councillors than all other Parties combined.
A forecast that Labour become biggest Party at a GE
Whats not to like0 -
The quote is “hoist with his own petar’”, so no ... if it's even possible to be pedantic about Shakespearean spelling, given the considerable variation between texts.CarlottaVance said:
I did. TR got it wrong.Nigelb said:
If so, she might have made the effort to get the quote right.Anazina said:
Carlotta is referring to Shakespeare’s original wording, which is presumed to be a lavatorial joke by the Bard.MaxPB said:
Indeed. To be hoist be one's own petard.Nigelb said:
Petard is quite correct.CarlottaVance said:
pedant mode Hoist with your own petar' / pedant modeAnazina said:
Hoist by your own petard.SeanT said:
I might have to emigrate until it is over. It's just so relentless and repetitive.JosiasJessop said:
I remember predicting that.SeanT said:Just realised Brexit is likely to dominate British political debate for the next three-to-five years. Maybe ten years.
Oh god.
I know you're such a stickler for accuracy.....
My other pet hate is 'Methinks the lady doth protest too much'....
TR wasn’t quoting - he was using a perfectly acceptable common usage, with the correct spelling of the word petard.
If you’re going to be a pedant, try harder.
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Such a transfer of sovereignty cannot be compatible with the GFA.Philip_Thompson said:
The UK should respond to that in the terms of Arkell v PressdramCarlottaVance said:0 -
That sounds like a very dubious decision to me.MaxPB said:
Seems like a mental decision, "use it or lose it" is complete bullshit. I'm sure GOP state legislatures are rushing through the statutes right now.Alistair said:Absolutely massive American Supreme Court decision with regards to voter registration.
To follow on from the laughably crazy Shelby County decision this latest one will see a mass purge of voter rolls across the country.
Will have big effect on the mid terms. I hadn't even been considering it as I thought it would be done and dusted.0 -
Who is TR? I made the original post.Nigelb said:
The quote is “hoist with his own petar’”, so no ... if it's even possible to be pedantic about Shakespearean spelling, given the considerable variation between texts.CarlottaVance said:
I did. TR got it wrong.Nigelb said:
If so, she might have made the effort to get the quote right.Anazina said:
Carlotta is referring to Shakespeare’s original wording, which is presumed to be a lavatorial joke by the Bard.MaxPB said:
Indeed. To be hoist be one's own petard.Nigelb said:
Petard is quite correct.CarlottaVance said:
pedant mode Hoist with your own petar' / pedant modeAnazina said:
Hoist by your own petard.SeanT said:
I might have to emigrate until it is over. It's just so relentless and repetitive.JosiasJessop said:
I remember predicting that.SeanT said:Just realised Brexit is likely to dominate British political debate for the next three-to-five years. Maybe ten years.
Oh god.
I know you're such a stickler for accuracy.....
My other pet hate is 'Methinks the lady doth protest too much'....
TR wasn’t quoting - he was using a perfectly acceptable common usage, with the correct spelling of the word petard.
If you’re going to be a pedant, try harder.0 -
Pretty indefensible SC decision might well have real consequences for the odds on close races in the US:
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/06/husted-v-randolph-institute-is-a-victory-for-trumps-department-of-justice.html0 -
Seven men and women every year as a tithe. To be sacrificed to his Pentagon... sorry I meant Labyrinth.MaxPB said:
Indeed, pretty awful for us as well. The worst part is that no one knows what Trump wants to keep the tariffs down. He hasn't made that clear at all.rcs1000 said:
It's not very good for us, either. Here's the latest data on car exports to the US by country (2017):CarlottaVance said:How many fronts do you want, Mrs Merkel?
German industrialists increasingly suspect that Mr Trump is spoiling for a fight and intends to go ahead with 25pc tariffs on European car imports, exploiting a national security loophole under US trade law as he did over duties on steel and aluminium. The EU currently imposes 10pc duties on cars, mostly aimed at curbing a flood of imports from Asia.
This could turn into a double drama for Germany if Brexit talks break down at the same time, leading to trade barriers with Britain. The German car industry might then face a sudden squeeze in its two biggest global markets.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2018/06/11/german-car-industry-fears-double-shock-trump-tariffs-brexit/?li_source=LI&li_medium=li-recommendation-widget
Canada: US$43.8 billion (up 0.1% from 2013)
Japan: $40.7 billion (up 4.9%)
Mexico: $30.6 billion (up 49.4%)
Germany: $20.8 billion (down -19.8%)
South Korea: $16.1 billion (up 29.1%)
United Kingdom: $8.8 billion (up 71%)
Italy: $5.1 billion (up 221.1%)
Sweden: $2.2 billion (up 203.3%)
Slovakia: $2 billion (up 123.3%)
China: $1.8 billion (up 1,759%)
Hungary: $1.2 billion (up 202.7%)
Finland: $1.2 billion (up 11,883%)
South Africa: $1.1 billion (down -50.4%)
Turkey: $911.8 million (up 666.5%)
Spain: $816.9 million (up 4,572%)0 -
No idea - also Carlotta’s coinage.Anazina said:
Who is TR? I made the original post.Nigelb said:
The quote is “hoist with his own petar’”, so no ... if it's even possible to be pedantic about Shakespearean spelling, given the considerable variation between texts.CarlottaVance said:
I did. TR got it wrong.Nigelb said:
If so, she might have made the effort to get the quote right.Anazina said:
Carlotta is referring to Shakespeare’s original wording, which is presumed to be a lavatorial joke by the Bard.MaxPB said:
Indeed. To be hoist be one's own petard.Nigelb said:
Petard is quite correct.CarlottaVance said:
pedant mode Hoist with your own petar' / pedant modeAnazina said:
Hoist by your own petard.SeanT said:
I might have to emigrate until it is over. It's just so relentless and repetitive.JosiasJessop said:
I remember predicting that.SeanT said:Just realised Brexit is likely to dominate British political debate for the next three-to-five years. Maybe ten years.
Oh god.
I know you're such a stickler for accuracy.....
My other pet hate is 'Methinks the lady doth protest too much'....
TR wasn’t quoting - he was using a perfectly acceptable common usage, with the correct spelling of the word petard.
If you’re going to be a pedant, try harder.
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I don't think the decision will have much impact at all. It removes from the rolls those who have failed to vote in two Federal elections and not responded to a confirmation notice or updated their registration status. If they reregister problem solved and if they fail to vote normally the odds are they won't vote in the midterms anywayAlistair said:Absolutely massive American Supreme Court decision with regards to voter registration.
To follow on from the laughably crazy Shelby County decision this latest one will see a mass purge of voter rolls across the country.
Will have big effect on the mid terms. I hadn't even been considering it as I thought it would be done and dusted.0 -
Curious.Nigelb said:
No idea - also Carlotta’s coinage.Anazina said:
Who is TR? I made the original post.Nigelb said:
The quote is “hoist with his own petar’”, so no ... if it's even possible to be pedantic about Shakespearean spelling, given the considerable variation between texts.CarlottaVance said:
I did. TR got it wrong.Nigelb said:
If so, she might have made the effort to get the quote right.Anazina said:
Carlotta is referring to Shakespeare’s original wording, which is presumed to be a lavatorial joke by the Bard.MaxPB said:
Indeed. To be hoist be one's own petard.Nigelb said:
Petard is quite correct.CarlottaVance said:
pedant mode Hoist with your own petar' / pedant modeAnazina said:
Hoist by your own petard.SeanT said:
I might have to emigrate until it is over. It's just so relentless and repetitive.JosiasJessop said:
I remember predicting that.SeanT said:Just realised Brexit is likely to dominate British political debate for the next three-to-five years. Maybe ten years.
Oh god.
I know you're such a stickler for accuracy.....
My other pet hate is 'Methinks the lady doth protest too much'....
TR wasn’t quoting - he was using a perfectly acceptable common usage, with the correct spelling of the word petard.
If you’re going to be a pedant, try harder.0 -
Looks like the suburban middle class ie whites with college degrees and Democratic women, namely the Hillary coalition, are most motivated to vote in the midterms and get revenge for November 2016.Alistair said:Midterm enthusiasm in the graph.
https://twitter.com/CarrieNBCNews/status/1006244228383563776?s=20
Minorities and Trump voters ie whites without college degrees less bothered and Trump voters in particular less likely to turnout for establishment GOP candidates than they were for Trump.0 -
Arron Banks says he briefed the CIA in London about his meetings with the Russian ambassador. Did he tell any other country or is that the end of the list?
Perhaps he reported back to the Russian ambassador on his meeting with the CIA? His business activities make clear that he knows the value of information.
Meanwhile the overgrown undergraduate Cummings is already kooking out, to judge from his blog post today. Will he quote Sun Tzu to the Serjeant at Arms?0 -
This is a flag to other states to keep pushing their voter purge nonsense.HYUFD said:
I don't think the decision will have much impact at all. It removes from the rolls those who have failed to vote in two Federal elections and not responded to a confirmation notice or updated their registration status. If they reregister problem solved and if they fail to vote normally the odds are they won't vote in the midterms anywayAlistair said:Absolutely massive American Supreme Court decision with regards to voter registration.
To follow on from the laughably crazy Shelby County decision this latest one will see a mass purge of voter rolls across the country.
Will have big effect on the mid terms. I hadn't even been considering it as I thought it would be done and dusted.0 -
And people who think "Wherefore art thou" means where are you, rather than why are you.CarlottaVance said:
I did. TR got it wrong.Nigelb said:
If so, she might have made the effort to get the quote right.Anazina said:
Carlotta is referring to Shakespeare’s original wording, which is presumed to be a lavatorial joke by the Bard.MaxPB said:
Indeed. To be hoist be one's own petard.Nigelb said:
Petard is quite correct.CarlottaVance said:
pedant mode Hoist with your own petar' / pedant modeAnazina said:
Hoist by your own petard.SeanT said:
I might have to emigrate until it is over. It's just so relentless and repetitive.JosiasJessop said:
I remember predicting that.SeanT said:Just realised Brexit is likely to dominate British political debate for the next three-to-five years. Maybe ten years.
Oh god.
I know you're such a stickler for accuracy.....
My other pet hate is 'Methinks the lady doth protest too much'....
Just had some very good Herefordshire strawberries from Tescos.0 -
One interesting idea was to have the whole of the UK join the EEA and then the British government pass a statute that only NI was “activated” or subject to its terms.Sean_F said:
Such a transfer of sovereignty cannot be compatible with the GFA.Philip_Thompson said:
The UK should respond to that in the terms of Arkell v PressdramCarlottaVance said:
Not without complications, obvs.0 -
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A good point.JosiasJessop said:
I have a perhaps-stupid question: how accurate is the labelling? ISTR there was a little issue recently with labelling of products; with imaginary farms designed to lure customers. By law, how accurate do such labels have to be? For example, if they're labelled 'Fife' and they were actually grown in Norfolk?another_richard said:For Charles and all the other PBers who have been eagerly awaiting today's Tesco Strawberry score I have bad news.
I haven't been.
But do not totally despair here is today's Sainsbury Strawberry score.
Angus
Fife
Perthshire
Yorkshire
Staffordshire
Norfolk
Only a 6 compared to the 8-11 which Tesco have been managing as Sainsbury don't do the myriad range of quality and quantity which Tesco manage.
But the addition of two new counties is very exciting.
There is a definite east / west split developing with only Herefordshire and Somerset as suppliers from western Britain from the four Scottish and twelve English counties.
(I'm not doubting your anecdata.)
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/tesco-and-other-supermarkets-using-fake-farm-brands-spark-complaint-from-nfu-a7144551.html
I suspect that technology is so advanced now that the labels are pretty accurate but I'd expect a few mistakes. What the tolerance level allowed is I don't know.
I think this was the marketing issue which caused problems over fake farm names:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-358892820 -
Tomorrow morning: Arron Banks and Andy Wigmore.TOPPING said:
Did we miss Arron Banks’ select committee appearance? When is/was that?RoyalBlue said:Question for PB brains’ trust:
For the debates tomorrow and on Wednesday, will the amendments be voted en bloc at the very end? Or will each be voted on after it has been debated, so being spread across the 2 days?
"Focus of the session
The Committee is expected to ask Mr Banks and Mr Wigmore about the relationship between Leave.EU and Cambridge Analytica, as well as the use of data by Leave.EU and other bodies, such as GoSkippy Insurance and Eldon Insurance.
The Committee continues to investigate data sharing and misuse around Facebook, Cambridge Analytica and other connected companies, as part of its wider inquiry into Fake News."0
