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It says you know a word I didn't.Toms said:
You're OK man.JosiasJessop said:As a house husband, second.
I was trying to describe that comment. For some reason the phrase "reflexively rebarbative" entered my brain. What the heck does that say about me I wonder.
And thanks.0 -
Don't be fooled .... they are fluorescent shoes made from unicorn hide and laces of entwined seams from hat-trick balls.Nigelb said:
Shoes are way too subdued.JackW said:
Bespoke tailoring and styling by TSE of Manchester ....FrancisUrquhart said:I think the people Blowers runs into need the shades, not blowers...
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The HoL have passed some amendments that the people’s representatives (HoC) will consider and either accept or reject. Surely that’s entirely consistent with the first approach.TheKitchenCabinet said:
There are ways and means of doing so. It is as if I went to my boss to disagree about a point. I could say "what about if we think about things this way?" or "you are a f**king idiot, this will be a disaster and I know right". The Lords are acting in the second way when they should be acting in the first.not_on_fire said:
They do know far more than the average person about what the Customs Union isTheKitchenCabinet said:
If that is the case, then it will be the Lords' fault. Anyone with an ounce of common sense could have seen what the reaction would be given their motions and their comments which were blatant in proclaiming "we know best and you are wrong".rottenborough said:The HoL was warned it was playing with fire on this one.
I predict one consequence of the inevitable 'betrayal' over Brexit will be a sustained, and eventually successful campaign by the Mail, to get rid of the Lords.
They'll be pushing at an open door once Corbyn is in. As my other prediction is that Labour will surprise on day one of taking office by announcing a quick review and abolition of the Lords and the replacement with something that Momentum feels is more democratic.
Brexit will wreck this country in so many ways.0 -
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not_on_fire said:
The HoL have passed some amendments that the people’s representatives (HoC) will consider and either accept or reject. Surely that’s entirely consistent with the first approach.TheKitchenCabinet said:
There are ways and means of doing so. It is as if I went to my boss to disagree about a point. I could say "what about if we think about things this way?" or "you are a f**king idiot, this will be a disaster and I know right". The Lords are acting in the second way when they should be acting in the first.not_on_fire said:
They do know far more than the average person about what the Customs Union isTheKitchenCabinet said:
If that is the case, then it will be the Lords' fault. Anyone with an ounce of common sense could have seen what the reaction would be given their motions and their comments which were blatant in proclaiming "we know best and you are wrong".rottenborough said:The HoL was warned it was playing with fire on this one.
I predict one consequence of the inevitable 'betrayal' over Brexit will be a sustained, and eventually successful campaign by the Mail, to get rid of the Lords.
They'll be pushing at an open door once Corbyn is in. As my other prediction is that Labour will surprise on day one of taking office by announcing a quick review and abolition of the Lords and the replacement with something that Momentum feels is more democratic.
Brexit will wreck this country in so many ways.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrecking_amendment
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Mr. Sarissa, well, some people are into that kind of thing.0
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Yes. But I’ve never bought anything in Primani.FrancisUrquhart said:
Do they sell such attire in Primari?JackW said:
Bespoke tailoring and styling by TSE of Manchester ....FrancisUrquhart said:I think the people Blowers runs into need the shades, not blowers...
https://twitter.com/henrymoeranBBC/status/9996764828962201600 -
LOL!!!!!AlastairMeeks said:Correction of the day:
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Hemsworth up - Normanton and Featherstone definitely hit the left leave pit village button, 20% Kipper at GE15 and 3%ish Lab to Con swing in 17, very typical of the sort of northern seat of metro remainer imagination. Here Lab remain edged Lab leave here 43:42. Prediction intact.Pro_Rata said:
Prediction: there will be a very Brexitty northern constituency on this list, and Lab remain will edge Lab leave. With the way votes have moved since 2015, that will suggest a fairly large Lab remain majority existed at the previous election.Tissue_Price said:Some good data from Ian Warren being dumped on Twitter now:
https://twitter.com/election_data/status/999675478465286144
First up Maidenhead, apparently the constituency with the second largest Tory remain vote in the country. Lol.0 -
Mori Evening Standard
Tories 40%
Labour 40%
LDs 7%
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Another rather encouraging poll for Labour after yesterday's ComRes also put both main parties neck-and-neck.HYUFD said:Mori Evening Standard
Tories 40%
Labour 40%
LDs 7%
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Back to set in shitty aspic.HYUFD said:Mori Evening Standard
Tories 40%
Labour 40%
LDs 7%
https://mobile.twitter.com/NCPoliticsUK/status/999647491632128001
Since Corbyn's personal rating is (apparently) so important, think how far Labour would be ahead with someone that the great English electorate even half rated.0 -
Although no real change, so status quo ante?AndyJS said:
Another rather encouraging poll for Labour after yesterday's ComRes also put both main parties neck-and-neck.HYUFD said:Mori Evening Standard
Tories 40%
Labour 40%
LDs 7%
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Most polls before yesterday were giving the Tories a small lead. The two latest ones are a bit better for Lab.RobD said:
Although no real change, so status quo ante?AndyJS said:
Another rather encouraging poll for Labour after yesterday's ComRes also put both main parties neck-and-neck.HYUFD said:Mori Evening Standard
Tories 40%
Labour 40%
LDs 7%
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Yeah, but isn't the change more important than the difference polls from other companies? Suppose it depends on when the last MORI poll was, and what the other polls were doing at the time.AndyJS said:
Most polls before yesterday were giving the Tories a small lead. The two latest ones are a bit better for Lab.RobD said:
Although no real change, so status quo ante?AndyJS said:
Another rather encouraging poll for Labour after yesterday's ComRes also put both main parties neck-and-neck.HYUFD said:Mori Evening Standard
Tories 40%
Labour 40%
LDs 7%
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Time for a bar chart: "Only the Lib Dems can beat the big two here!"HYUFD said:Mori Evening Standard
Tories 40%
Labour 40%
LDs 7%
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LibDems - Spinning Here!SandyRentool said:
Time for a bar chart: "Only the Lib Dems can beat the big two here!"HYUFD said:Mori Evening Standard
Tories 40%
Labour 40%
LDs 7%
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Is Celebrity Big Brother back on?Sunil_Prasannan said:House of Unelected Has-Beens
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Murder is a problem in South Africa, and has been for some decades. The evidence that there is a political motive or an increasing rate of murders of specifically white farmers is not borne out by the facts. It does match the white supremacist agenda of some in the alt.right however. I suspect Ms Hopkins not to be a sufficiently objective reporter to get to the truth, more one who has a pre-formed opinion she wants to push:LordWakefield said:
https://africacheck.org/factsheets/factsheet-statistics-farm-attacks-murders-sa/
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This seems odd. She's clearly a committed Leaver; does she feel she cannot pursue that while being a junior member of the government?Scott_P said:0 -
Doesn't she want to have more time to focus on committee work? She probably feels she could be more effective doing that than being a bag-carrier.`Benpointer said:
This seems odd. She's clearly a committed Leaver; does she feel she cannot pursue that while being a junior member of the government?Scott_P said:0 -
Prisoners on day release to fill workforce gaps from EU workers leaving after Brexit
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/brexit-latest-prisoners-on-day-release-to-plug-workforce-gaps-after-britain-leaves-eu-a3847551.html?amp0 -
That would be Andy Burnham apparently who has a Yougov rating of +16%, the highest of any current Labour figure with the firm. Though he is currently engaged as Mayor of Manchester after Labour members rejected him in 2015Theuniondivvie said:
Back to set in shitty aspic.HYUFD said:Mori Evening Standard
Tories 40%
Labour 40%
LDs 7%
https://mobile.twitter.com/NCPoliticsUK/status/999647491632128001
Since Corbyn's personal rating is (apparently) so important, think how far Labour would be ahead with someone that the great English electorate even half rated.
https://yougov.co.uk/opi/browse/Andy_Burnham0 -
If I understand it correctly, she wants to join the growing number of prominent Brexiteers whining that Brexit is shit, but only because they are doing it wrong.Benpointer said:This seems odd. She's clearly a committed Leaver; does she feel she cannot pursue that while being a junior member of the government?
If the Government falls and is replaced by a "we'll do it right" regime, then this could be a shrewd career move...0 -
Angela Rayner @ +22HYUFD said:
That would be Andy Burnham apparently who has a Yougov rating of +16%, the highest of any current Labour figure with the firm. Though he is currently engaged as Mayor of Manchester after Labour members rejected him in 2015Theuniondivvie said:
Back to set in shitty aspic.HYUFD said:Mori Evening Standard
Tories 40%
Labour 40%
LDs 7%
https://mobile.twitter.com/NCPoliticsUK/status/999647491632128001
Since Corbyn's personal rating is (apparently) so important, think how far Labour would be ahead with someone that the great English electorate even half rated.
https://yougov.co.uk/opi/browse/Andy_Burnham0 -
At least viewers vote for the winner of Big brother.SandyRentool said:
Is Celebrity Big Brother back on?Sunil_Prasannan said:House of Unelected Has-Beens
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She was top of the last Yougov polling list including Labour politicians but I can't see her recorded on the Yougov politicians' approval trackerPro_Rata said:
Angela Rayner @ +22HYUFD said:
That would be Andy Burnham apparently who has a Yougov rating of +16%, the highest of any current Labour figure with the firm. Though he is currently engaged as Mayor of Manchester after Labour members rejected him in 2015Theuniondivvie said:
Back to set in shitty aspic.HYUFD said:Mori Evening Standard
Tories 40%
Labour 40%
LDs 7%
https://mobile.twitter.com/NCPoliticsUK/status/999647491632128001
Since Corbyn's personal rating is (apparently) so important, think how far Labour would be ahead with someone that the great English electorate even half rated.
https://yougov.co.uk/opi/browse/Andy_Burnham0 -
Ok Trumpers, here's some face savers just in case you're struggling.
https://twitter.com/BBCJamesCook/status/9997083048163246110 -
Ruth Davidson is top Tory at +10% so looks like the public want Davidson v Rayner then!Pro_Rata said:
Angela Rayner @ +22HYUFD said:
That would be Andy Burnham apparently who has a Yougov rating of +16%, the highest of any current Labour figure with the firm. Though he is currently engaged as Mayor of Manchester after Labour members rejected him in 2015Theuniondivvie said:
Back to set in shitty aspic.HYUFD said:Mori Evening Standard
Tories 40%
Labour 40%
LDs 7%
https://mobile.twitter.com/NCPoliticsUK/status/999647491632128001
Since Corbyn's personal rating is (apparently) so important, think how far Labour would be ahead with someone that the great English electorate even half rated.
https://yougov.co.uk/opi/browse/Andy_Burnham
https://yougov.co.uk/opi/browse/Ruth_Davidson0 -
The Tories are in serious trouble if the best they can do versus Corbyn and McDonnell is tie in the polls.0
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Is he quoting Stormy Daniels?AlastairMeeks said:0 -
Considering they were trailing Labour last summer I expect they will settle for that for now. After 8 years in government and 3 consecutive general elections winning most seats it is not easy for any party in power whoever is Leader of the Opposition.AndyJS said:The Tories are in serious trouble if the best they can do versus Corbyn and McDonnell is tie in the polls.
Indeed only 1 party has won most seats in a 4th consecutive general election
in the last 50 years, John Major's Tories and they trailed Kinnock's Labour even during much of the election campaign0 -
Clearly not. When the Government is making such a pigs ear of it I can see why she would feel she needs to be free to criticise them.Benpointer said:
This seems odd. She's clearly a committed Leaver; does she feel she cannot pursue that while being a junior member of the government?Scott_P said:0 -
OT A quick public service announcement.
Don't forget to take your towel with you when you leave home tomorrow.
But if you do forget. Don't Panic!0 -
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Too classy?TheScreamingEagles said:
Yes. But I’ve never bought anything in Primani.FrancisUrquhart said:
Do they sell such attire in Primari?JackW said:
Bespoke tailoring and styling by TSE of Manchester ....FrancisUrquhart said:I think the people Blowers runs into need the shades, not blowers...
https://twitter.com/henrymoeranBBC/status/999676482896220160
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That is excellent news. One of the worst pieces of legislation we ever adopted and May was a complete idiot opting back into it.Beverley_C said:
Hopefully we will also not have to abide by the truly awful link tax that the EU is pursuing which will do untold damage to the freedom of the internet.0 -
Yeah, and not sure membership (or not) of the arrest warrant is worth losing sleep over. Sounds great in theory, but in practice there are 27 other member states with different legal systems and burdens of proof. Continuing to work with the EU on things such as intelligence sharing and research and development seem much more important.Beverley_C said:0 -
I never wanted to be in the EAW.Richard_Tyndall said:
That is excellent news. One of the worst pieces of legislation we ever adopted and May was a complete idiot opting back into it.Beverley_C said:
Hopefully we will also not have to abide by the truly awful link tax that the EU is pursuing which will do untold damage to the freedom of the internet.0 -
Statistical noise. Look at the trend.AndyJS said:The Tories are in serious trouble if the best they can do versus Corbyn and McDonnell is tie in the polls.
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Evening all
It would seem Trump hasn't taken kindly to the insults directed at Pence and Bolton from Pyongyang. It was a pretty crude attempt at "divide and rule" by NK but getting Trump to cancel will be relentlessly portrayed as the warmongering Americans being unable to talk peace with the lovely cuddly friendly North Koreans.
The South Koreans have also been royally stuffed and if this has achieved anything it has probably weakened the relationship between Seoul and Washington which wouldn't be a bad outcome for Pyongyang either. It will be interesting to see if the rapprochement between the Koreas continues even as the leaders of NK and the USA trade words and/or insults.
On matters domestic, I'd very much like to meet one of the five people in the country who actually understands all the nonsense about the UK-Irish border, Customs Unions and Max Factor (who I thought made cosmetics or similar). The blizzard of conflicting, contradictory, self-opinionated commentary and tweets from a barrage of so-called experts have left even old Stodge (and I consider myself one of the brighter lights on the Christmas tree) confused.
Perhaps that's the point - an A50 agreement so full of technobabble, doubletalk and hyperbole it will mean almost anything to almost anybody and will be voted through Parliament by a grateful Conservative Party before you can say "proper scrutiny".
It seems to me the current state of the Conservatives is division between the 1% who are committed LEAVE supporters, 1% who are committed REMAIN supporters and the 98% committed to staying in Government whatever happens faction (itself a coalition between the "we want to be in Government forever" group and the "oh God, if we let Corbyn in, it'll be the end of everything" league).
Yes, there may be a very few Conservatives who would throw their party under the metaphorical bus if BINO was on the table and another tiny number if a really hard Brexit was on offer but most Conservatives seem to be a) tired of talking about Brexit b) incredibly pragmatic and c) desperate to remain in Government (delete as appropriate).
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Your "Post of The Year" RichardRichard_Tyndall said:OT A quick public service announcement.
Don't forget to take your towel with you when you leave home tomorrow.
But if you do forget. Don't Panic!
Thanks for the reminder
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Am more likely to do my purchases further down Market Street in Selfridges and in around King Street.Beverley_C said:
Too classy?TheScreamingEagles said:
Yes. But I’ve never bought anything in Primani.FrancisUrquhart said:
Do they sell such attire in Primari?JackW said:
Bespoke tailoring and styling by TSE of Manchester ....FrancisUrquhart said:I think the people Blowers runs into need the shades, not blowers...
https://twitter.com/henrymoeranBBC/status/999676482896220160
My man of the people credentials are brought into question because of my clothes and shoe shopping.
Apparently not everyone buys £500 plus Gucci Loafers.0 -
King St.. yes, ok... but Market Street? It is just full of trams and doorways smelling of tramp's urine.TheScreamingEagles said:
Am more likely to do my purchases further down Market Street in Selfridges and in around King Street.Beverley_C said:
Too classy?TheScreamingEagles said:
Yes. But I’ve never bought anything in Primani.FrancisUrquhart said:
Do they sell such attire in Primari?JackW said:
Bespoke tailoring and styling by TSE of Manchester ....FrancisUrquhart said:I think the people Blowers runs into need the shades, not blowers...
https://twitter.com/henrymoeranBBC/status/999676482896220160
My man of the people credentials are brought into question because of my clothes and shoe shopping.
Apparently not everyone buys £500 plus Gucci Loafers.
[Edit: I have mixed Market St with Mosley St. Silly of me]0 -
LOL at the BBC quoting Ben Shapiro.Theuniondivvie said:Ok Trumpers, here's some face savers just in case you're struggling.
https://twitter.com/BBCJamesCook/status/9997083048163246110 -
On further inspection Selfridges isn't on Market Street, but next door.Beverley_C said:
King St.. yes, ok... but Market Street? It is just full of trams and doorways smelling of tramp's urine.TheScreamingEagles said:
Am more likely to do my purchases further down Market Street in Selfridges and in around King Street.Beverley_C said:
Too classy?TheScreamingEagles said:
Yes. But I’ve never bought anything in Primani.FrancisUrquhart said:
Do they sell such attire in Primari?JackW said:
Bespoke tailoring and styling by TSE of Manchester ....FrancisUrquhart said:I think the people Blowers runs into need the shades, not blowers...
https://twitter.com/henrymoeranBBC/status/999676482896220160
My man of the people credentials are brought into question because of my clothes and shoe shopping.
Apparently not everyone buys £500 plus Gucci Loafers.
I've only been coming to Manchester for the last 15 years or so.0 -
I must admit, I've never developed the skill of telling the fragrance of a tramp's urine apart from any other person's urine.Beverley_C said:
King St.. yes, ok... but Market Street? It is just full of trams and doorways smelling of tramp's urine.TheScreamingEagles said:
Am more likely to do my purchases further down Market Street in Selfridges and in around King Street.Beverley_C said:
Too classy?TheScreamingEagles said:
Yes. But I’ve never bought anything in Primani.FrancisUrquhart said:
Do they sell such attire in Primari?JackW said:
Bespoke tailoring and styling by TSE of Manchester ....FrancisUrquhart said:I think the people Blowers runs into need the shades, not blowers...
https://twitter.com/henrymoeranBBC/status/999676482896220160
My man of the people credentials are brought into question because of my clothes and shoe shopping.
Apparently not everyone buys £500 plus Gucci Loafers. 0 -
None of it matters in the slightest. Settle down. You would be better off reading the runes.RobD said:
Yeah, but isn't the change more important than the difference polls from other companies? Suppose it depends on when the last MORI poll was, and what the other polls were doing at the time.AndyJS said:
Most polls before yesterday were giving the Tories a small lead. The two latest ones are a bit better for Lab.RobD said:
Although no real change, so status quo ante?AndyJS said:
Another rather encouraging poll for Labour after yesterday's ComRes also put both main parties neck-and-neck.HYUFD said:Mori Evening Standard
Tories 40%
Labour 40%
LDs 7%
https://mobile.twitter.com/NCPoliticsUK/status/999647491632128001
Or consulting a handful of seaweed.0 -
A lot of Leavers never liked that anyway.Beverley_C said:0 -
Would you like me to bring back Nighthawks over the next three weeks?0
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The urine of tramps is usually found to be on the tramps, it is certainly more 'memorable' than ordinary piss.JosiasJessop said:
I must admit, I've never developed the skill of telling the fragrance of a tramp's urine apart from any other person's urine.Beverley_C said:
King St.. yes, ok... but Market Street? It is just full of trams and doorways smelling of tramp's urine.TheScreamingEagles said:
Am more likely to do my purchases further down Market Street in Selfridges and in around King Street.Beverley_C said:
Too classy?TheScreamingEagles said:
Yes. But I’ve never bought anything in Primani.FrancisUrquhart said:
Do they sell such attire in Primari?JackW said:
Bespoke tailoring and styling by TSE of Manchester ....FrancisUrquhart said:I think the people Blowers runs into need the shades, not blowers...
https://twitter.com/henrymoeranBBC/status/999676482896220160
My man of the people credentials are brought into question because of my clothes and shoe shopping.
Apparently not everyone buys £500 plus Gucci Loafers.
This maybe because I'm usually the first one into work and there's a tramp sleeping in our doorway.0 -
Or indeed that it was a single tramp responsible for all of the said doorways...JosiasJessop said:
I must admit, I've never developed the skill of telling the fragrance of a tramp's urine apart from any other person's urine.Beverley_C said:
King St.. yes, ok... but Market Street? It is just full of trams and doorways smelling of tramp's urine.TheScreamingEagles said:
Am more likely to do my purchases further down Market Street in Selfridges and in around King Street.Beverley_C said:
Too classy?TheScreamingEagles said:
Yes. But I’ve never bought anything in Primani.FrancisUrquhart said:
Do they sell such attire in Primari?JackW said:
Bespoke tailoring and styling by TSE of Manchester ....FrancisUrquhart said:I think the people Blowers runs into need the shades, not blowers...
https://twitter.com/henrymoeranBBC/status/999676482896220160
My man of the people credentials are brought into question because of my clothes and shoe shopping.
Apparently not everyone buys £500 plus Gucci Loafers.0 -
Actually, it is on Mosley St - see edit further down.JosiasJessop said:
I must admit, I've never developed the skill of telling the fragrance of a tramp's urine apart from any other person's urine.Beverley_C said:
King St.. yes, ok... but Market Street? It is just full of trams and doorways smelling of tramp's urine.TheScreamingEagles said:
Am more likely to do my purchases further down Market Street in Selfridges and in around King Street.Beverley_C said:
Too classy?TheScreamingEagles said:
Yes. But I’ve never bought anything in Primani.FrancisUrquhart said:
Do they sell such attire in Primari?JackW said:
Bespoke tailoring and styling by TSE of Manchester ....FrancisUrquhart said:I think the people Blowers runs into need the shades, not blowers...
https://twitter.com/henrymoeranBBC/status/999676482896220160
My man of the people credentials are brought into question because of my clothes and shoe shopping.
Apparently not everyone buys £500 plus Gucci Loafers.
It is easy to tell it is Tramp's urine. They sleep in the doors because there is no traffic on Mosley St (just trams) and occasionally they just stand up and pee on the wall near the doorway. You get a really good view from the Met Stop0 -
Are we discussing Tramps' toilet habits again?TheScreamingEagles said:Would you like me to bring back Nighthawks over the next three weeks?
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No, my legendary subtle pop music references in threads.Beverley_C said:
Are we discussing Tramps' toilet habits?TheScreamingEagles said:Would you like me to bring back Nighthawks over the next three weeks?
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Ok thenTheScreamingEagles said:
No, my legendary subtle pop music references in threads.Beverley_C said:
Are we discussing Tramps' toilet habits?TheScreamingEagles said:Would you like me to bring back Nighthawks over the next three weeks?
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You didn’t need the second sentence. A slight edit required to your first.Casino_Royale said:
All opinion polls are is statistical noise.AndyJS said:The Tories are in serious trouble if the best they can do versus Corbyn and McDonnell is tie in the polls.
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Anyway - tea break over, lots to do
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“Whereas it is intended to substitute for membership of the European Union as it at present exists a Global Britain constituted on a popular basis, but such substitution cannot be immediately brought into operation”david_herdson said:
The 1911 Parliament Act. This, from the Introductory Text:Tissue_Price said:
Who said anything about replacement?rkrkrk said:
I doubt very much that there could be any quick replacement of the House of Lords.rottenborough said:The HoL was warned it was playing with fire on this one.
I predict one consequence of the inevitable 'betrayal' over Brexit will be a sustained, and eventually successful campaign by the Mail, to get rid of the Lords.
They'll be pushing at an open door once Corbyn is in. As my other prediction is that Labour will surprise on day one of taking office by announcing a quick review and abolition of the Lords and the replacement with something that Momentum feels is more democratic.
Brexit will wreck this country in so many ways.
Labour don't even have a clear model in mind as far as I can tell. My guess would be some form of PR election, potentially with a different election period. They'll want Lib Dem support to get it through and if they are smart they'll try and get some Tories too for added legitimacy.
"whereas it is intended to substitute for the House of Lords as it at present exists a Second Chamber constituted on a popular instead of hereditary basis, but such substitution cannot be immediately brought into operation"
107 years and counting ...
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Geo5/1-2/13/contents
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I know it’s GDPR day!Richard_Tyndall said:OT A quick public service announcement.
Don't forget to take your towel with you when you leave home tomorrow.
But if you do forget. Don't Panic!0 -
As long as you get the balance right between politics and nonsense it should be OK.TheScreamingEagles said:
No, my legendary subtle pop music references in threads.Beverley_C said:
Are we discussing Tramps' toilet habits?TheScreamingEagles said:Would you like me to bring back Nighthawks over the next three weeks?
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Oh yes!TheScreamingEagles said:Would you like me to bring back Nighthawks over the next three weeks?
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A slight edit required to yours as well.Anazina said:
You didn’t need the second sentence. A slight edit required to your first.Casino_Royale said:
All opinion polls are is statistical noise.AndyJS said:The Tories are in serious trouble if the best they can do versus Corbyn and McDonnell is tie in the polls.
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This must be your first time visiting PB. Of course we care about the pollsAnazina said:
None of it matters in the slightest. Settle down. You would be better off reading the runes.RobD said:
Yeah, but isn't the change more important than the difference polls from other companies? Suppose it depends on when the last MORI poll was, and what the other polls were doing at the time.AndyJS said:
Most polls before yesterday were giving the Tories a small lead. The two latest ones are a bit better for Lab.RobD said:
Although no real change, so status quo ante?AndyJS said:
Another rather encouraging poll for Labour after yesterday's ComRes also put both main parties neck-and-neck.HYUFD said:Mori Evening Standard
Tories 40%
Labour 40%
LDs 7%
https://mobile.twitter.com/NCPoliticsUK/status/999647491632128001
Or consulting a handful of seaweed.
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Mrs Jack got her shoe shopping list out again, Jack?JackW said:
Don't be fooled .... they are fluorescent shoes made from unicorn hide and laces of entwined seams from hat-trick balls.Nigelb said:
Shoes are way too subdued.JackW said:
Bespoke tailoring and styling by TSE of Manchester ....FrancisUrquhart said:I think the people Blowers runs into need the shades, not blowers...
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An organisation that appointed a drug addled failure like Juncker to its top post or Martin Selmayr to anything more demanding than the post of under-janitor doesn't in all likelihood have much intelligence of any sort to share. I think we'd get screwed on that deal even more remorselessly than we're being screwed on Customs.RobD said:
Yeah, and not sure membership (or not) of the arrest warrant is worth losing sleep over. Sounds great in theory, but in practice there are 27 other member states with different legal systems and burdens of proof. Continuing to work with the EU on things such as intelligence sharing and research and development seem much more important.Beverley_C said:0 -
Why? What important anniversary of Caesar's is looming?TheScreamingEagles said:Would you like me to bring back Nighthawks over the next three weeks?
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Good. This is a good thing we would be out. Never liked the thought of some judge in a far away land being able to arrest people here willy nilly.Beverley_C said:0 -
Whilst we’re at it, I don’t like the UK-US extradition treaty either.welshowl said:
Good. This is a good thing we would be out. Never liked the thought of some judge in a far away land being able to arrest people here willy nilly.Beverley_C said:0 -
Yeah, from what I’ve read that’s not great either.Casino_Royale said:
Whilst we’re at it, I don’t like the UK-US extradition treaty either.welshowl said:
Good. This is a good thing we would be out. Never liked the thought of some judge in a far away land being able to arrest people here willy nilly.Beverley_C said:
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Some important French bashing dates coming up.ydoethur said:
Why? What important anniversary of Caesar's is looming?TheScreamingEagles said:Would you like me to bring back Nighthawks over the next three weeks?
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I've never been keen on the European arrest warrant.
At least the police and NHS won't be able to pursue the parents of terminally ill children across Europe...0 -
Last four Ipsos polls on Irish abortion referendum (%Yes, %No):
4–5 Dec 2017 62-26
25 Jan 2018 56-29
16–17 Apr 2018 47-28
14–15 May 2018 44-32
Yes as % of Yes and No:
4–5 Dec 2017 70%
25 Jan 2018 66%
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Normanton isn't in Hemsworth constituency.Pro_Rata said:
Hemsworth up - Normanton and Featherstone definitely hit the left leave pit village button, 20% Kipper at GE15 and 3%ish Lab to Con swing in 17, very typical of the sort of northern seat of metro remainer imagination. Here Lab remain edged Lab leave here 43:42. Prediction intact.Pro_Rata said:
Prediction: there will be a very Brexitty northern constituency on this list, and Lab remain will edge Lab leave. With the way votes have moved since 2015, that will suggest a fairly large Lab remain majority existed at the previous election.Tissue_Price said:Some good data from Ian Warren being dumped on Twitter now:
https://twitter.com/election_data/status/999675478465286144
First up Maidenhead, apparently the constituency with the second largest Tory remain vote in the country. Lol.
Its in the constituency of Normanton, Pontefract and Castleford.
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Surprisingly strong retail sales in April.
Given how many retail chains are struggling and how many boarded up shops there are there must be some businesses doing very well to balance these out.0 -
Amazon?another_richard said:Surprisingly strong retail sales in April.
Given how many retail chains are struggling and how many boarded up shops there are there must be some businesses doing very well to balance these out.0 -
If they're doing well now the aim will be to sell us down the river later.Gardenwalker said:
Amazon?another_richard said:Surprisingly strong retail sales in April.
Given how many retail chains are struggling and how many boarded up shops there are there must be some businesses doing very well to balance these out.
I would get out more but making bad puns is much more fun.0 -
Giving the figures to such a high level of accuracy is a bit questionable IMO because they can only be estimates. But it's an interesting exercise nonetheless.Tissue_Price said:Some good data from Ian Warren being dumped on Twitter now:
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That’s a good thing for British libertieswilliamglenn said:0 -
Don't be fooled. Comres was nc and this is a 0.5% swing on previousAndyJS said:
Another rather encouraging poll for Labour after yesterday's ComRes also put both main parties neck-and-neck.HYUFD said:Mori Evening Standard
Tories 40%
Labour 40%
LDs 7%
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Petrol wasn't it?another_richard said:Surprisingly strong retail sales in April.
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MRP models are pretty accurate it seems, a la YouGov 2017 model, but yeah, not sure why they couldn't be reported to the nearest 100 voters or whatever the confidence intervals areAndyJS said:
Giving the figures to such a high level of accuracy is a bit questionable IMO because they can only be estimates. But it's an interesting exercise nonetheless.Tissue_Price said:Some good data from Ian Warren being dumped on Twitter now:
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YesTheScreamingEagles said:Would you like me to bring back Nighthawks over the next three weeks?
Quote of today’s meetings “A cow is a cow whatever way you look at it”
I need Nighthawks!0 -
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Ok, I m not the person who has noticed this, but potentially new customs transition time, Customs and Regulatory Alignment Period, is an unfortunate acronym
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YesTheScreamingEagles said:Would you like me to bring back Nighthawks over the next three weeks?
Quote of today’s meetings “A cow is a cow whatever way you look at it”
I need Nighthawks!
That's true - especially if it's a Spherical Cow.
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That did increase but by less than it fell in March.TheScreamingEagles said:
Petrol wasn't it?another_richard said:Surprisingly strong retail sales in April.
Given how many retail chains are struggling and how many boarded up shops there are there must be some businesses doing very well to balance these out.0 -
Enjoy yourself while you’re youngishydoethur said:
If they're doing well now the aim will be to sell us down the river later.Gardenwalker said:
Amazon?another_richard said:Surprisingly strong retail sales in April.
Given how many retail chains are struggling and how many boarded up shops there are there must be some businesses doing very well to balance these out.
I would get out more but making bad puns is much more fun.
Thames waits for no man, no matter how Volga. But I guess you’re in deNile. Don’t work it’ll all come out in the Wash0 -
Do you think the word "and" was introduced intentionally ?Barnesian said:Laura Kuenssberg
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Ok, I m not the person who has noticed this, but potentially new customs transition time, Customs and Regulatory Alignment Period, is an unfortunate acronym
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Its a possibility.Gardenwalker said:
Amazon?another_richard said:Surprisingly strong retail sales in April.
Given how many retail chains are struggling and how many boarded up shops there are there must be some businesses doing very well to balance these out.
Personally I rarely find them as cheap as Tesco, Argos or Ebay but I guess many people look only at Amazon for convenience.0 -
Clicked on an old link, from June 2017. God, Nick Timothy really did screw the country.
The Times has been told that at least one senior official intimately involved in the Brexit negotiations was at one stage prevented from seeing the prime minister by Mr Timothy. Sir Ivan Rogers, who was then Britain’s permanent representative to the EU, tried to alert Mrs May to what he believed were flaws in the government’s understanding of Brussels.
“He was told that he couldn’t write submissions to the prime minister and that everything had to go through the chief of staff,” one insider said.
“He tried to get one-to-one meetings with Mrs May and was rebuffed. Everything that the prime minister saw or heard was controlled by Nick.”
Senior sources said no attempt was made by Sir Jeremy to ensure Sir Ivan got access to Mrs May. Believing he had been frozen out, Sir Ivan quit. A former senior Whitehall figure said that had disastrous consequences for the initial stages of Brexit preparations.
“Losing Ivan Rogers at that point was really bad just as we were preparing our position on Article 50,” they said. “He was ex-Treasury and knew about budgets and financial services and how Brussels works. They just lost that. You’ve ended up with yes men and they’re bloody useless to everybody.”
Sir Ivan’s isolation was possible because the pair ripped up the previous practice in Downing Street that senior civil servants could directly put submissions and papers into the prime minister’s nightly and weekend red boxes.
Under the new regime material seen by the prime minister had to be vetted first either by Mr Timothy or Ms Hill. That not only dismayed Whitehall but gummed up the process of decision-making by inserting a fresh layer of bureaucracy into the No 10 operation.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/how-civil-servants-lived-in-fearof-the-terrible-twins-at-no-10-8smxqj6jw?CMP=Sprkr-_-Editorial-_-thetimes-_-Politics-_-Imageandlink-_-Statement-_-Unspecified-_-TWITTER&linkId=387982430 -
I’m finishing Fall Out.TheScreamingEagles said:Clicked on an old link, from June 2017. God, Nick Timothy really did screw the country.
*Nobody* comes out of it well, but Nick Timothy and Fiona Hill worst of all.0 -
TheScreamingEagles said:
Clicked on an old link, from June 2017. God, Nick Timothy really did screw the country.
The Times has been told that at least one senior official intimately involved in the Brexit negotiations was at one stage prevented from seeing the prime minister by Mr Timothy. Sir Ivan Rogers, who was then Britain’s permanent representative to the EU, tried to alert Mrs May to what he believed were flaws in the government’s understanding of Brussels.
“He was told that he couldn’t write submissions to the prime minister and that everything had to go through the chief of staff,” one insider said.
“He tried to get one-to-one meetings with Mrs May and was rebuffed. Everything that the prime minister saw or heard was controlled by Nick.”
Senior sources said no attempt was made by Sir Jeremy to ensure Sir Ivan got access to Mrs May. Believing he had been frozen out, Sir Ivan quit. A former senior Whitehall figure said that had disastrous consequences for the initial stages of Brexit preparations.
“Losing Ivan Rogers at that point was really bad just as we were preparing our position on Article 50,” they said. “He was ex-Treasury and knew about budgets and financial services and how Brussels works. They just lost that. You’ve ended up with yes men and they’re bloody useless to everybody.”
Sir Ivan’s isolation was possible because the pair ripped up the previous practice in Downing Street that senior civil servants could directly put submissions and papers into the prime minister’s nightly and weekend red boxes.
Under the new regime material seen by the prime minister had to be vetted first either by Mr Timothy or Ms Hill. That not only dismayed Whitehall but gummed up the process of decision-making by inserting a fresh layer of bureaucracy into the No 10 operation.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/how-civil-servants-lived-in-fearof-the-terrible-twins-at-no-10-8smxqj6jw?CMP=Sprkr-_-Editorial-_-thetimes-_-Politics-_-Imageandlink-_-Statement-_-Unspecified-_-TWITTER&linkId=38798243
Who's to blame?
Cameron for resigning without sorting this out.
Or Gove for stabbing Boris in the back and letter May have an easy ride.
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Internet shopping.another_richard said:Surprisingly strong retail sales in April.
Given how many retail chains are struggling and how many boarded up shops there are there must be some businesses doing very well to balance these out.0
