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A year to go and the latest chart based on the YouGov Brexit tracker pic.twitter.com/cqW6hhQL4z
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E pluribus unum0
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Brexit is going to happen on Sir John Major’s birthday.0
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Tories still strongly back Leave and Labour and especially LD voters still think we should have stayed in the EU.
Therefore it looks like the best way for Remainers to try and keep us in the single market and customs union or get a second referendum is for a Labour minority government after the next general election with SNP and LD confidence and supply0 -
That Labour voter split though, no wonder Sir Keir made his intervention last night after Lady Nugee’s prediction.0
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Yet another survey that has Remain ahead.
People have realised that Brexit just isn't worth it.0 -
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There are more CON Remainers in the poll than LAB leavers so please stop misinterpreting things to suit your position.HYUFD said:Tories still strongly back Leave and Labour and especially LD voters still think we should have stayed in the EU.
Therefore it looks like the best way for Remainers to try and keep us in the single market and customs union or get a second referendum is for a Labour minority government after the next general election with SNP and LD confidence and supply0 -
Happy birthday Sir John!TheScreamingEagles said:Brexit is going to happen on Sir John Major’s birthday.
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I fear you might be fighting a losing battle there @MikeSmithsonMikeSmithson said:
There are more CON Remainers in the poll than LAB leavers so please stop misinterpreting things to suit your position.HYUFD said:Tories still strongly back Leave and Labour and especially LD voters still think we should have stayed in the EU.
Therefore it looks like the best way for Remainers to try and keep us in the single market and customs union or get a second referendum is for a Labour minority government after the next general election with SNP and LD confidence and supply0 -
No need to call her by her husband's name – somewhat old fashioned and patronising and certainly not like you!TheScreamingEagles said:That Labour voter split though, no wonder Sir Keir made his intervention last night after Lady Nugee’s prediction.
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sexist.TheScreamingEagles said:That Labour voter split though, no wonder Sir Keir made his intervention last night after Lady Nugee’s prediction.
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It'll be my parents' 55th wedding anniversary.TheScreamingEagles said:Brexit is going to happen on Sir John Major’s birthday.
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It helps explain why she sneers at white van man though doesn't itAnazina said:
No need to call her by her husband's name – somewhat old fashioned and patronising and certainly not like you!TheScreamingEagles said:That Labour voter split though, no wonder Sir Keir made his intervention last night after Lady Nugee’s prediction.
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She should just $$$$ offScott_P said:
oh sorry, thought I was a Labour supporter for a second there.0 -
They seem determined to want to keep the story running. Okay.Scott_P said:0 -
How many Tory Leavers just hold that position out of loyalty? In the event of a second referendum it’s possible their support will quickly collapse as the likes of Davis and Fox struggle to defend Brexit.0
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Actually that's not quite correct on the image in the header. Using weighted Con/Lab samples there are 125 Con remainers vs 130 Lab leavers.MikeSmithson said:
There are more CON Remainers in the poll than LAB leavers so please stop misinterpreting things to suit your position.HYUFD said:Tories still strongly back Leave and Labour and especially LD voters still think we should have stayed in the EU.
Therefore it looks like the best way for Remainers to try and keep us in the single market and customs union or get a second referendum is for a Labour minority government after the next general election with SNP and LD confidence and supply
I think....0 -
Very true. How many of the several neobrexiteer Tories on here would flip back when push came to shove and the tide was against them?williamglenn said:How many Tory Leavers just hold that position out of loyalty? In the event of a second referendum it’s possible their support will quickly collapse as the likes of Davis and Fox struggle to defend Brexit.
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CON Remainers are backing the party on the assumption that it backs leaving the EU, it's already priced in to their decision. Labour Leavers are backing the party on the same assumption - if Labour changes it's stance then they may wish to consider.MikeSmithson said:
There are more CON Remainers in the poll than LAB leavers so please stop misinterpreting things to suit your position.HYUFD said:Tories still strongly back Leave and Labour and especially LD voters still think we should have stayed in the EU.
Therefore it looks like the best way for Remainers to try and keep us in the single market and customs union or get a second referendum is for a Labour minority government after the next general election with SNP and LD confidence and supply
HYUFD is still wrong, it just happens that Mike is also wrong!0 -
I've been gone a while, but alas I return and the site looks as good as ever.
On the split - I think Brexit is guaranteed to happen for one reason and one reason alone. Kicking the EPLP leader off of the Labour NEC strengthens the Corbynite left ever further on the NEC and the what remains of the parliamentary party.
The leadership office have yet to miss a single opportunity to cement control and I see this one as no different.0 -
I thought it went further than zero tolerance - isn't he a self declared "militant against anti-Semitism" ?Scrapheap_as_was said:
Though I guess militant can have different meanings...0 -
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I’m using the correct designation for her.Anazina said:
No need to call her by her husband's name – somewhat old fashioned and patronising and certainly not like you!TheScreamingEagles said:That Labour voter split though, no wonder Sir Keir made his intervention last night after Lady Nugee’s prediction.
There’s nothing worse when the upper/middle classes pretend to be working class.0 -
Conservatives against coal mining:
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/03/in-a-first-a-new-uk-coal-mine-is-rejected-on-climate-change-grounds/
I wonder if Corbyn would be in favour of this new mine, or against it?
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Happy 54th wedding anniversary to your parents today.AlastairMeeks said:
It'll be my parents' 55th wedding anniversary.TheScreamingEagles said:Brexit is going to happen on Sir John Major’s birthday.
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58% of Tory voters voted Leave in 2016 in the EU referendum now 69% would vote Leave, a rise of 11%.MikeSmithson said:
There are more CON Remainers in the poll than LAB leavers so please stop misinterpreting things to suit your position.HYUFD said:Tories still strongly back Leave and Labour and especially LD voters still think we should have stayed in the EU.
Therefore it looks like the best way for Remainers to try and keep us in the single market and customs union or get a second referendum is for a Labour minority government after the next general election with SNP and LD confidence and supply
63% of Labour voters voted Remain in 2016 now 73% would, a rise of 10%.
70% of LD voters voted Remain, now 82% would, a rise of 12%, so my statement was entirely correct. In fact there were more Con Remainers as a percentage at the EU referendum than there are currently
https://lordashcroftpolls.com/2016/06/how-the-united-kingdom-voted-and-why/0 -
Are you referring to Medway Flag Man? That was the most ludicrous ministerial sacking ever.Floater said:
It helps explain why she sneers at white van man though doesn't itAnazina said:
No need to call her by her husband's name – somewhat old fashioned and patronising and certainly not like you!TheScreamingEagles said:That Labour voter split though, no wonder Sir Keir made his intervention last night after Lady Nugee’s prediction.
She was teasing (apparently, although she made no comment) a guy – clearly a complete prat – who covered his house in England flags, which looks awful.
Who on here would wish to live next to that? Those people who traduced her for it are hypocrites – pure and simple – hypocrites!0 -
No, you aren't. She chooses to use her maiden name professionally and basic etiquette deems that her choice should be respected. In my industry many women use their maiden names when the name on their passport is different. We don't refer to them by their married name if they choose otherwise.TheScreamingEagles said:
I’m using the correct designation for her.Anazina said:
No need to call her by her husband's name – somewhat old fashioned and patronising and certainly not like you!TheScreamingEagles said:That Labour voter split though, no wonder Sir Keir made his intervention last night after Lady Nugee’s prediction.
There’s nothing worse when the upper/middle classes pretend to be working class.0 -
Scott_P said:
Incredibly lifelike portrait of HYUFD and Carlotta.0 -
I think TSE was teasing...Anazina said:
No, you aren't. She chooses to use her maiden name professionally and basic etiquette deems that her choice should be respected. In my industry many women use their maiden names when the name on their passport is different. We don't refer to them by their married name if they choose otherwise.TheScreamingEagles said:
I’m using the correct designation for her.Anazina said:
No need to call her by her husband's name – somewhat old fashioned and patronising and certainly not like you!TheScreamingEagles said:That Labour voter split though, no wonder Sir Keir made his intervention last night after Lady Nugee’s prediction.
There’s nothing worse when the upper/middle classes pretend to be working class.0 -
I’m a huge fan of the Thornberry family.Nigelb said:
I think TSE was teasing...Anazina said:
No, you aren't. She chooses to use her maiden name professionally and basic etiquette deems that her choice should be respected. In my industry many women use their maiden names when the name on their passport is different. We don't refer to them by their married name if they choose otherwise.TheScreamingEagles said:
I’m using the correct designation for her.Anazina said:
No need to call her by her husband's name – somewhat old fashioned and patronising and certainly not like you!TheScreamingEagles said:That Labour voter split though, no wonder Sir Keir made his intervention last night after Lady Nugee’s prediction.
There’s nothing worse when the upper/middle classes pretend to be working class.
Her father gave a wonderful speech when I was at university.0 -
Ha! Fair enough – sorry if you were pulling my legTheScreamingEagles said:
I’m a huge fan of the Thornberry family.Nigelb said:
I think TSE was teasing...Anazina said:
No, you aren't. She chooses to use her maiden name professionally and basic etiquette deems that her choice should be respected. In my industry many women use their maiden names when the name on their passport is different. We don't refer to them by their married name if they choose otherwise.TheScreamingEagles said:
I’m using the correct designation for her.Anazina said:
No need to call her by her husband's name – somewhat old fashioned and patronising and certainly not like you!TheScreamingEagles said:That Labour voter split though, no wonder Sir Keir made his intervention last night after Lady Nugee’s prediction.
There’s nothing worse when the upper/middle classes pretend to be working class.
Her father gave a wonderful speech when I was at university.
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Aristocrats should be proud to use their titles.Anazina said:
No need to call her by her husband's name – somewhat old fashioned and patronising and certainly not like you!TheScreamingEagles said:That Labour voter split though, no wonder Sir Keir made his intervention last night after Lady Nugee’s prediction.
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I lived round the corner from an asian family who covered there house in England flags at the time of a major sporting event.Anazina said:
Are you referring to Medway Flag Man? That was the most ludicrous ministerial sacking ever.Floater said:
It helps explain why she sneers at white van man though doesn't itAnazina said:
No need to call her by her husband's name – somewhat old fashioned and patronising and certainly not like you!TheScreamingEagles said:That Labour voter split though, no wonder Sir Keir made his intervention last night after Lady Nugee’s prediction.
She was teasing (apparently, although she made no comment) a guy – clearly a complete prat – who covered his house in England flags, which looks awful.
Who on here would wish to live next to that? Those people who traduced her for it are hypocrites – pure and simple – hypocrites!
I distinctly remeber BJO calling me a liar over it.
Perhaps I should just have called them prats and hated living near them?
The more I see of you progressives the less I see to like.0 -
Unless trying to pretend to be a person of the peopleSean_F said:
Aristocrats should be proud to use their titles.Anazina said:
No need to call her by her husband's name – somewhat old fashioned and patronising and certainly not like you!TheScreamingEagles said:That Labour voter split though, no wonder Sir Keir made his intervention last night after Lady Nugee’s prediction.
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If Dave had granted my wish and made me Duke of Sheffield/Yorkshire I’d have insisted everyone address me as your Grace.Sean_F said:
Aristocrats should be proud to use their titles.Anazina said:
No need to call her by her husband's name – somewhat old fashioned and patronising and certainly not like you!TheScreamingEagles said:That Labour voter split though, no wonder Sir Keir made his intervention last night after Lady Nugee’s prediction.
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I was just wondering what the Lib Dems have had to say about Labour's issues, ad so I went to Google, entered "vince cable", and clicked on News.
And... nothing relevant.
The top story was this one, however:
"Vince Cable impersonator convicted for supplying false information"
https://inews.co.uk/news/uk/vince-cable-impersonator-fined-in-first-conviction/
I'll leave the jokes to others ...0 -
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It wasn't during a football tournament. It was tweeted in November.Floater said:
I lived round the corner from an asian family who covered there house in England flags at the time of a major sporting event.Anazina said:
Are you referring to Medway Flag Man? That was the most ludicrous ministerial sacking ever.Floater said:
It helps explain why she sneers at white van man though doesn't itAnazina said:
No need to call her by her husband's name – somewhat old fashioned and patronising and certainly not like you!TheScreamingEagles said:That Labour voter split though, no wonder Sir Keir made his intervention last night after Lady Nugee’s prediction.
She was teasing (apparently, although she made no comment) a guy – clearly a complete prat – who covered his house in England flags, which looks awful.
Who on here would wish to live next to that? Those people who traduced her for it are hypocrites – pure and simple – hypocrites!
I distinctly remeber BJO calling me a liar over it.
Perhaps I should just have called them prats and hated living near them?
The more I see of you progressives the less I see to like.0 -
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Monty seems to be turning towards an EEA/EFTA style solution. Very wise.Scott_P said:0 -
11 Brexit promises the government quietly dropped
Leaving aside the £350m for the NHS, Brexit has promised quick and easy trade deals with the EU and the rest of the world, an end to ECJ jurisdiction and free movement, and British control of North Sea fishing. None of this has come to pass. Here are 11 key abandoned claims
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2018/mar/28/11-brexit-promises-leavers-quietly-dropped0 -
so?Anazina said:
It wasn't during a football tournament. It was tweeted in November.Floater said:
I lived round the corner from an asian family who covered there house in England flags at the time of a major sporting event.Anazina said:
Are you referring to Medway Flag Man? That was the most ludicrous ministerial sacking ever.Floater said:
It helps explain why she sneers at white van man though doesn't itAnazina said:
No need to call her by her husband's name – somewhat old fashioned and patronising and certainly not like you!TheScreamingEagles said:That Labour voter split though, no wonder Sir Keir made his intervention last night after Lady Nugee’s prediction.
She was teasing (apparently, although she made no comment) a guy – clearly a complete prat – who covered his house in England flags, which looks awful.
Who on here would wish to live next to that? Those people who traduced her for it are hypocrites – pure and simple – hypocrites!
I distinctly remeber BJO calling me a liar over it.
Perhaps I should just have called them prats and hated living near them?
The more I see of you progressives the less I see to like.
Unlike you she says its ok to fly the flag if you want
"I apologise for any offence caused by the 3 flag picture. People should fly the England flag with pride!"0 -
Saudi Arabia's just announced solar deal is fairly remarkable, given that the intended installed capacity will be around three times their current electricity usage.
There are some serious questions about the numbers, but the scale of the ambition is interesting:
https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/saudi-arabia-200-gigawatt-solar-plan#gs.sR3V=a80 -
Would you like to live next to someone that had his house (semi)permanently draped in England flags? Would your wife? Would you ask him nicely to take them down four months after the tournament had concluded?Floater said:
so?Anazina said:
It wasn't during a football tournament. It was tweeted in November.Floater said:
I lived round the corner from an asian family who covered there house in England flags at the time of a major sporting event.Anazina said:
Are you referring to Medway Flag Man? That was the most ludicrous ministerial sacking ever.Floater said:
It helps explain why she sneers at white van man though doesn't itAnazina said:
No need to call her by her husband's name – somewhat old fashioned and patronising and certainly not like you!TheScreamingEagles said:That Labour voter split though, no wonder Sir Keir made his intervention last night after Lady Nugee’s prediction.
She was teasing (apparently, although she made no comment) a guy – clearly a complete prat – who covered his house in England flags, which looks awful.
Who on here would wish to live next to that? Those people who traduced her for it are hypocrites – pure and simple – hypocrites!
I distinctly remeber BJO calling me a liar over it.
Perhaps I should just have called them prats and hated living near them?
The more I see of you progressives the less I see to like.
Unlike you she says its ok to fly the flag if you want
"I apologise for any offence caused by the 3 flag picture. People should fly the England flag with pride!"0 -
With power comes responsibility and we have seen that Jezza doesn't take responsibility for anything...Scott_P said:0 -
I hope they have as good a day as my wife ad I did on our 54th. Just looked at my diary. Excellent lunch a deux at prestigious (and food-wise deservedly so) local restuarant, then socialising with friends at local fete.TheScreamingEagles said:
Happy 54th wedding anniversary to your parents today.AlastairMeeks said:
It'll be my parents' 55th wedding anniversary.TheScreamingEagles said:Brexit is going to happen on Sir John Major’s birthday.
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To her credit, the PM doesn't want to lie. It won't be worth it but yes it will be different. And there will be real opportunities but more than offset by the damaging consequences. Bless her. She really is still a Remainer - possibly even more so now that she can see the problems ahead. Is there a major plot twist coming?williamglenn said:
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What a preposterously silly claim for Peston to make. If you don't have a specific constitutional power to do something, you don't have it, irrespective of how powerful in an abstract and general sense you are.Scott_P said:0 -
It was probably the darts. Or cheese rolling. Definitely something major though.Anazina said:
It wasn't during a football tournament. It was tweeted in November.Floater said:
I lived round the corner from an asian family who covered there house in England flags at the time of a major sporting event.Anazina said:
Are you referring to Medway Flag Man? That was the most ludicrous ministerial sacking ever.Floater said:
It helps explain why she sneers at white van man though doesn't itAnazina said:
No need to call her by her husband's name – somewhat old fashioned and patronising and certainly not like you!TheScreamingEagles said:That Labour voter split though, no wonder Sir Keir made his intervention last night after Lady Nugee’s prediction.
She was teasing (apparently, although she made no comment) a guy – clearly a complete prat – who covered his house in England flags, which looks awful.
Who on here would wish to live next to that? Those people who traduced her for it are hypocrites – pure and simple – hypocrites!
I distinctly remeber BJO calling me a liar over it.
Perhaps I should just have called them prats and hated living near them?
The more I see of you progressives the less I see to like.0 -
As I think we live in reasonably close proximity would you mind telling me which restaurant - looking for somewhere we haven't been to take wife.OldKingCole said:
I hope they have as good a day as my wife ad I did on our 54th. Just looked at my diary. Excellent lunch a deux at prestigious (and food-wise deservedly so) local restuarant, then socialising with friends at local fete.TheScreamingEagles said:
Happy 54th wedding anniversary to your parents today.AlastairMeeks said:
It'll be my parents' 55th wedding anniversary.TheScreamingEagles said:Brexit is going to happen on Sir John Major’s birthday.
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Is Nugee’s knightship or whatever it’s called the result of his being some sort of judge?TheScreamingEagles said:
If Dave had granted my wish and made me Duke of Sheffield/Yorkshire I’d have insisted everyone address me as your Grace.Sean_F said:
Aristocrats should be proud to use their titles.Anazina said:
No need to call her by her husband's name – somewhat old fashioned and patronising and certainly not like you!TheScreamingEagles said:That Labour voter split though, no wonder Sir Keir made his intervention last night after Lady Nugee’s prediction.
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We can however be fairly certain that Scotland failed to qualify .........Theuniondivvie said:
It was probably the darts. Or cheese rolling. Definitely something major though.Anazina said:
It wasn't during a football tournament. It was tweeted in November.Floater said:
I lived round the corner from an asian family who covered there house in England flags at the time of a major sporting event.Anazina said:
Are you referring to Medway Flag Man? That was the most ludicrous ministerial sacking ever.Floater said:
It helps explain why she sneers at white van man though doesn't itAnazina said:
No need to call her by her husband's name – somewhat old fashioned and patronising and certainly not like you!TheScreamingEagles said:That Labour voter split though, no wonder Sir Keir made his intervention last night after Lady Nugee’s prediction.
She was teasing (apparently, although she made no comment) a guy – clearly a complete prat – who covered his house in England flags, which looks awful.
Who on here would wish to live next to that? Those people who traduced her for it are hypocrites – pure and simple – hypocrites!
I distinctly remeber BJO calling me a liar over it.
Perhaps I should just have called them prats and hated living near them?
The more I see of you progressives the less I see to like.0 -
It is an elected position, he can't remove her.oxfordsimon said:
With power comes responsibility and we have seen that Jezza doesn't take responsibility for anything...Scott_P said:
Not that they should anyway.0 -
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As it sadly never happened, are you now Grace-less?TheScreamingEagles said:
If Dave had granted my wish and made me Duke of Sheffield/Yorkshire I’d have insisted everyone address me as your Grace.Sean_F said:
Aristocrats should be proud to use their titles.Anazina said:
No need to call her by her husband's name – somewhat old fashioned and patronising and certainly not like you!TheScreamingEagles said:That Labour voter split though, no wonder Sir Keir made his intervention last night after Lady Nugee’s prediction.
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The International Kentish Power Walking Championship, I understand.Theuniondivvie said:
It was probably the darts. Or cheese rolling. Definitely something major though.Anazina said:
It wasn't during a football tournament. It was tweeted in November.Floater said:
I lived round the corner from an asian family who covered there house in England flags at the time of a major sporting event.Anazina said:
Are you referring to Medway Flag Man? That was the most ludicrous ministerial sacking ever.Floater said:
It helps explain why she sneers at white van man though doesn't itAnazina said:
No need to call her by her husband's name – somewhat old fashioned and patronising and certainly not like you!TheScreamingEagles said:That Labour voter split though, no wonder Sir Keir made his intervention last night after Lady Nugee’s prediction.
She was teasing (apparently, although she made no comment) a guy – clearly a complete prat – who covered his house in England flags, which looks awful.
Who on here would wish to live next to that? Those people who traduced her for it are hypocrites – pure and simple – hypocrites!
I distinctly remeber BJO calling me a liar over it.
Perhaps I should just have called them prats and hated living near them?
The more I see of you progressives the less I see to like.
Sadly England were knocked out in the group stages.0 -
Have pm’d you.Floater said:
As I think we live in reasonably close proximity would you mind telling me which restaurant - looking for somewhere we haven't been to take wife.OldKingCole said:
I hope they have as good a day as my wife ad I did on our 54th. Just looked at my diary. Excellent lunch a deux at prestigious (and food-wise deservedly so) local restuarant, then socialising with friends at local fete.TheScreamingEagles said:
Happy 54th wedding anniversary to your parents today.AlastairMeeks said:
It'll be my parents' 55th wedding anniversary.TheScreamingEagles said:Brexit is going to happen on Sir John Major’s birthday.
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Damn, one less excuse for making spurious excuses for flag bedecked weirdos.Floater said:
We can however be fairly certain that Scotland failed to qualify .........Theuniondivvie said:
It was probably the darts. Or cheese rolling. Definitely something major though.Anazina said:
It wasn't during a football tournament. It was tweeted in November.Floater said:
I lived round the corner from an asian family who covered there house in England flags at the time of a major sporting event.Anazina said:
Are you referring to Medway Flag Man? That was the most ludicrous ministerial sacking ever.Floater said:
It helps explain why she sneers at white van man though doesn't itAnazina said:
No need to call her by her husband's name – somewhat old fashioned and patronising and certainly not like you!TheScreamingEagles said:That Labour voter split though, no wonder Sir Keir made his intervention last night after Lady Nugee’s prediction.
She was teasing (apparently, although she made no comment) a guy – clearly a complete prat – who covered his house in England flags, which looks awful.
Who on here would wish to live next to that? Those people who traduced her for it are hypocrites – pure and simple – hypocrites!
I distinctly remeber BJO calling me a liar over it.
Perhaps I should just have called them prats and hated living near them?
The more I see of you progressives the less I see to like.0 -
He can't remove her - but he could have called in public for her to consider her position. He chose not to do so.TheJezziah said:
It is an elected position, he can't remove her.oxfordsimon said:
With power comes responsibility and we have seen that Jezza doesn't take responsibility for anything...Scott_P said:
Not that they should anyway.
If she did something wrong enough to resign from that specific position, the same failings make her NEC position equally untenable.0 -
Thanks, got it - Never been there so very much appreciated.OldKingCole said:
Have pm’d you.Floater said:
As I think we live in reasonably close proximity would you mind telling me which restaurant - looking for somewhere we haven't been to take wife.OldKingCole said:
I hope they have as good a day as my wife ad I did on our 54th. Just looked at my diary. Excellent lunch a deux at prestigious (and food-wise deservedly so) local restuarant, then socialising with friends at local fete.TheScreamingEagles said:
Happy 54th wedding anniversary to your parents today.AlastairMeeks said:
It'll be my parents' 55th wedding anniversary.TheScreamingEagles said:Brexit is going to happen on Sir John Major’s birthday.
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There was probably a cricket one going on somewhere. The comment about Scotland, of course, applies.Anazina said:
The International Kentish Power Walking Championship, I understand.Theuniondivvie said:
It was probably the darts. Or cheese rolling. Definitely something major though.Anazina said:
It wasn't during a football tournament. It was tweeted in November.Floater said:
I lived round the corner from an asian family who covered there house in England flags at the time of a major sporting event.Anazina said:
Are you referring to Medway Flag Man? That was the most ludicrous ministerial sacking ever.Floater said:
It helps explain why she sneers at white van man though doesn't itAnazina said:
No need to call her by her husband's name – somewhat old fashioned and patronising and certainly not like you!TheScreamingEagles said:That Labour voter split though, no wonder Sir Keir made his intervention last night after Lady Nugee’s prediction.
She was teasing (apparently, although she made no comment) a guy – clearly a complete prat – who covered his house in England flags, which looks awful.
Who on here would wish to live next to that? Those people who traduced her for it are hypocrites – pure and simple – hypocrites!
I distinctly remeber BJO calling me a liar over it.
Perhaps I should just have called them prats and hated living near them?
The more I see of you progressives the less I see to like.
Sadly England were knocked out in the group stages.0 -
My favourite quote on the British aristocracy is from Cryptonomicon by Neal Stephenson:
'He was born Graf Heinrich Karl Wilhelm Otto Friedrich von Übersetzenseehafenstadt, but changed his name to Nigel St. John Gloamthorpby, a.k.a. Lord Woadmire, in 1914.'0 -
Ha haTheuniondivvie said:
Damn, one less excuse for making spurious excuses for flag bedecked weirdos.Floater said:
We can however be fairly certain that Scotland failed to qualify .........Theuniondivvie said:
It was probably the darts. Or cheese rolling. Definitely something major though.Anazina said:
It wasn't during a football tournament. It was tweeted in November.Floater said:
I lived round the corner from an asian family who covered there house in England flags at the time of a major sporting event.Anazina said:
Are you referring to Medway Flag Man? That was the most ludicrous ministerial sacking ever.Floater said:
It helps explain why she sneers at white van man though doesn't itAnazina said:
No need to call her by her husband's name – somewhat old fashioned and patronising and certainly not like you!TheScreamingEagles said:That Labour voter split though, no wonder Sir Keir made his intervention last night after Lady Nugee’s prediction.
She was teasing (apparently, although she made no comment) a guy – clearly a complete prat – who covered his house in England flags, which looks awful.
Who on here would wish to live next to that? Those people who traduced her for it are hypocrites – pure and simple – hypocrites!
I distinctly remeber BJO calling me a liar over it.
Perhaps I should just have called them prats and hated living near them?
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She fell foul of the media, it doesn't make her NEC position untenable.oxfordsimon said:
He can't remove her - but he could have called in public for her to consider her position. He chose not to do so.TheJezziah said:
It is an elected position, he can't remove her.oxfordsimon said:
With power comes responsibility and we have seen that Jezza doesn't take responsibility for anything...Scott_P said:
Not that they should anyway.
If she did something wrong enough to resign from that specific position, the same failings make her NEC position equally untenable.0 -
Good afternoon, everyone.
Not too surprising, given the noisy fellows (and ladies) are making much of the running.0 -
So if she hadn't have been outed as having tried to delay a proper investigation into anti-semitism, she would have been fine?TheJezziah said:
She fell foul of the media, it doesn't make her NEC position untenable.oxfordsimon said:
He can't remove her - but he could have called in public for her to consider her position. He chose not to do so.TheJezziah said:
It is an elected position, he can't remove her.oxfordsimon said:
With power comes responsibility and we have seen that Jezza doesn't take responsibility for anything...Scott_P said:
Not that they should anyway.
If she did something wrong enough to resign from that specific position, the same failings make her NEC position equally untenable.
Sorry - but she was caught out for what she is. She should have resigned both positions immediately. Nothing to do with the media - all to do with what she tried to cover up/delay.0 -
You mean that they reported what she said and did?TheJezziah said:
She fell foul of the media, it doesn't make her NEC position untenable.oxfordsimon said:
He can't remove her - but he could have called in public for her to consider her position. He chose not to do so.TheJezziah said:
It is an elected position, he can't remove her.oxfordsimon said:
With power comes responsibility and we have seen that Jezza doesn't take responsibility for anything...Scott_P said:
Not that they should anyway.
If she did something wrong enough to resign from that specific position, the same failings make her NEC position equally untenable.0 -
Caught out for what 'she is'?oxfordsimon said:
So if she hadn't have been outed as having tried to delay a proper investigation into anti-semitism, she would have been fine?TheJezziah said:
She fell foul of the media, it doesn't make her NEC position untenable.oxfordsimon said:
He can't remove her - but he could have called in public for her to consider her position. He chose not to do so.TheJezziah said:
It is an elected position, he can't remove her.oxfordsimon said:
With power comes responsibility and we have seen that Jezza doesn't take responsibility for anything...Scott_P said:
Not that they should anyway.
If she did something wrong enough to resign from that specific position, the same failings make her NEC position equally untenable.
Sorry - but she was caught out for what she is. She should have resigned both positions immediately. Nothing to do with the media - all to do with what she tried to cover up/delay.
What exactly?0 -
The Single Market is out of the question because of the implications for immigration. This has been debated extensively on here, and there is definitely no Commons majority for it.Anazina said:0 -
No problem. Enjoy. Apart from a Thursday midday you can park reasonably near, too.Floater said:
Thanks, got it - Never been there so very much appreciated.OldKingCole said:
Have pm’d you.Floater said:
As I think we live in reasonably close proximity would you mind telling me which restaurant - looking for somewhere we haven't been to take wife.OldKingCole said:
I hope they have as good a day as my wife ad I did on our 54th. Just looked at my diary. Excellent lunch a deux at prestigious (and food-wise deservedly so) local restuarant, then socialising with friends at local fete.TheScreamingEagles said:
Happy 54th wedding anniversary to your parents today.AlastairMeeks said:
It'll be my parents' 55th wedding anniversary.TheScreamingEagles said:Brexit is going to happen on Sir John Major’s birthday.
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The domestic market.williamglenn said:0 -
It appears there are no principal local authority by-elections today. The only contests I can see are for two seats on Conway community council.0
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Well this is a great start... only a few paragraphs in and....AndyJS said:
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This was barely a month after Corbyn issued a Facebook post for Holocaust Memorial Day that included no mention of Jews or anti-Semitism. Following an outcry, Corbyn made public another message, this one mentioning “our Jewish brothers and sisters.”
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Except in the words of Stephen Pollard (who hates Jeremy Corbyn)
https://twitter.com/stephenpollard/status/956915608876175361?ref_src=twsrc^tfw&ref_url=http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/national/article/Apology-offered-to-Corbyn-amid-controversy-over-Holocaust-comments-06efdcf9-c71c-4e24-9b2d-8ecba01c5873-ds
I wonder why Jewish people think Labour are racist against them... I wonder if I added a couple of real incidents and made up a bunch of stuff or spun several things carefully and had the media repeat them endlessly if I could convince other groups that parties were racist against them?
But don't claim the issue has been weaponised because apparently, that is also anti-semitic....0 -
CarlottaVance said: Fair play. 0
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Things seems to be moving that way.RoyalBlue said:
The Single Market is out of the question because of the implications for immigration. This has been debated extensively on here, and there is definitely no Commons majority for it.Anazina said:0 -
Long read - Matthew Goodwin explains the state of play on Brexit for our Canadian friends:
https://www.opencanada.org/features/one-year-go-britain-changing-its-mind/0 -
If Goodwin drew analogues with Hitler on an internet forum would it be a Goodwin Godwin?CarlottaVance said:Long read - Matthew Goodwin explains the state of play on Brexit for our Canadian friends:
https://www.opencanada.org/features/one-year-go-britain-changing-its-mind/0 -
Of course Christine Shawcroft should resign. What is more, Labour people should be encouraging her to go.
Why?
She's incompetent, and should be nowhere near any position of authority.
Let's take a look at her own words: "I sent this email before being aware of the full information about this case and I had not been shown the image of his abhorrent Facebook post. Had I seen this image, I would not have requested that the decision to suspend him be re-considered. I am deeply sorry for having done so."
So she was in a position to investigate an alleged offence, yet she sided strongly one way and tried to influence matters without even reading the evidence.0 -
"Thousands of Jeremy Corbyn supporters endorse letter saying Jewish-organised antisemitism protest was the work of 'very powerful special interest group'"
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-labour-antisemitism-protest-powerful-special-interest-group-jewish-a8278761.html0 -
There’s one in Huyton.slade said:It appears there are no principal local authority by-elections today. The only contests I can see are for two seats on Conway community council.
https://www.knowsley.gov.uk/knowsleycouncil/media/Documents/notice-of-election-page-moss-mar-2018.pdf0 -
By the Germans on penalties?Anazina said:
The International Kentish Power Walking Championship, I understand.Theuniondivvie said:
It was probably the darts. Or cheese rolling. Definitely something major though.Anazina said:
It wasn't during a football tournament. It was tweeted in November.Floater said:
I lived round the corner from an asian family who covered there house in England flags at the time of a major sporting event.Anazina said:
Are you referring to Medway Flag Man? That was the most ludicrous ministerial sacking ever.Floater said:
It helps explain why she sneers at white van man though doesn't itAnazina said:
No need to call her by her husband's name – somewhat old fashioned and patronising and certainly not like you!TheScreamingEagles said:That Labour voter split though, no wonder Sir Keir made his intervention last night after Lady Nugee’s prediction.
She was teasing (apparently, although she made no comment) a guy – clearly a complete prat – who covered his house in England flags, which looks awful.
Who on here would wish to live next to that? Those people who traduced her for it are hypocrites – pure and simple – hypocrites!
I distinctly remeber BJO calling me a liar over it.
Perhaps I should just have called them prats and hated living near them?
The more I see of you progressives the less I see to like.
Sadly England were knocked out in the group stages.
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What group could they possibly mean?AndyJS said:"Thousands of Jeremy Corbyn supporters endorse letter saying Jewish-organised antisemitism protest was the work of 'very powerful special interest group'"
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-labour-antisemitism-protest-powerful-special-interest-group-jewish-a8278761.html0 -
What, all of them at once !!!Sean_F said:
Aristocrats should be proud to use their titles.Anazina said:
No need to call her by her husband's name – somewhat old fashioned and patronising and certainly not like you!TheScreamingEagles said:That Labour voter split though, no wonder Sir Keir made his intervention last night after Lady Nugee’s prediction.
Michael Ancram would have no time for anything else :
Marquess of Lothian is a title in the Peerage of Scotland. It was created in 1701 for Robert Kerr, 4th Earl of Lothian. The Marquess of Lothian holds the subsidiary titles of Earl of Lothian (created 1606), Earl of Lothian (created again 1631), Earl of Ancram (1633), Earl of Ancram (created again 1701), Viscount of Briene (1701), Lord Newbattle (1591), Lord Jedburgh (1622), Lord Kerr of Newbattle (1631), Lord Kerr of Nisbet, Langnewtoun, and Dolphinstoun (1633), Lord Kerr of Newbattle, Oxnam, Jedburgh, Dolphinstoun and Nisbet (1701), and Baron Ker, of Kersheugh in the County of Roxburgh (1821) and Baron Kerr of Monteviot (2010) all but the last two in the Peerage of Scotland. The holder of the title is also the Chief of Clan Kerr.
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Another interpretation is that she wasn't bothered by such claims so no point actually investigating.JosiasJessop said:Of course Christine Shawcroft should resign. What is more, Labour people should be encouraging her to go.
Why?
She's incompetent, and should be nowhere near any position of authority.
Let's take a look at her own words: "I sent this email before being aware of the full information about this case and I had not been shown the image of his abhorrent Facebook post. Had I seen this image, I would not have requested that the decision to suspend him be re-considered. I am deeply sorry for having done so."
So she was in a position to investigate an alleged offence, yet she sided strongly one way and tried to influence matters without even reading the evidence.0 -
They might think Labour has a problem with antisemitism because a load of Labour people admit it has? Including - eventually - your leader:TheJezziah said:
Well this is a great start... only a few paragraphs in and....AndyJS said:
____________________________
This was barely a month after Corbyn issued a Facebook post for Holocaust Memorial Day that included no mention of Jews or anti-Semitism. Following an outcry, Corbyn made public another message, this one mentioning “our Jewish brothers and sisters.”
________________________
Except in the words of Stephen Pollard (who hates Jeremy Corbyn)
https://twitter.com/stephenpollard/status/956915608876175361?ref_src=twsrc^tfw&ref_url=http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/national/article/Apology-offered-to-Corbyn-amid-controversy-over-Holocaust-comments-06efdcf9-c71c-4e24-9b2d-8ecba01c5873-ds
I wonder why Jewish people think Labour are racist against them... I wonder if I added a couple of real incidents and made up a bunch of stuff or spun several things carefully and had the media repeat them endlessly if I could convince other groups that parties were racist against them?
But don't claim the issue has been weaponised because apparently, that is also anti-semitic....
“I recognise that antisemitism has surfaced within the Labour party, and has too often been dismissed as simply a matter of a few bad apples.”
https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/978313237132468224
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We all know Scottish nobility are overcompensatingJackW said:
What, all of them at once !!!Sean_F said:
Aristocrats should be proud to use their titles.Anazina said:
No need to call her by her husband's name – somewhat old fashioned and patronising and certainly not like you!TheScreamingEagles said:That Labour voter split though, no wonder Sir Keir made his intervention last night after Lady Nugee’s prediction.
Michael Ancram would have no time for anything else :
Marquess of Lothian is a title in the Peerage of Scotland. It was created in 1701 for Robert Kerr, 4th Earl of Lothian. The Marquess of Lothian holds the subsidiary titles of Earl of Lothian (created 1606), Earl of Lothian (created again 1631), Earl of Ancram (1633), Earl of Ancram (created again 1701), Viscount of Briene (1701), Lord Newbattle (1591), Lord Jedburgh (1622), Lord Kerr of Newbattle (1631), Lord Kerr of Nisbet, Langnewtoun, and Dolphinstoun (1633), Lord Kerr of Newbattle, Oxnam, Jedburgh, Dolphinstoun and Nisbet (1701), and Baron Ker, of Kersheugh in the County of Roxburgh (1821) and Baron Kerr of Monteviot (2010) all but the last two in the Peerage of Scotland. The holder of the title is also the Chief of Clan Kerr.0 -
More like Mr Grace .... "You've all done very well !!"TheScreamingEagles said:
If Dave had granted my wish and made me Duke of Sheffield/Yorkshire I’d have insisted everyone address me as your Grace.Sean_F said:
Aristocrats should be proud to use their titles.Anazina said:
No need to call her by her husband's name – somewhat old fashioned and patronising and certainly not like you!TheScreamingEagles said:That Labour voter split though, no wonder Sir Keir made his intervention last night after Lady Nugee’s prediction.
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