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Stick to your guns Survation.
I’d love to see an updated YouGov constituency model poll.0 -
To think this time last year Mrs May high teen double digit leads.0
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Some methodological support surely comes from Prof Curtice a couple of threads back. Though as Jim Callaghan reminded us, all good people are in bed by ten o'clock. Night night.0
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How many pollsters have changed their methodolgy since the general election ?
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Yes but you can't rely upon teens to turnout.TheScreamingEagles said:To think this time last year Mrs May high teen double digit leads.
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Not sure why my last comment disappeared. Did I say something wrong?0
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Well, yes. But I don't think they are any more likely to be correct this time around than the opposing consensus of pollsters. Just accept there is a large margin of error, and hope for a prescient call from David Herdson again.... ?TheScreamingEagles said:Stick to your guns Survation...
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Is the Vanilla new thread gremlin.GarethoftheVale2 said:Not sure why my last comment disappeared. Did I say something wrong?
Your comment is here
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As far as I'm aware there hasn't been a Leave/Remain poll since Salisbury?0
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All of them have.another_richard said:How many pollsters have changed their methodolgy since the general election ?
The ironic thing is in 2017 their weighted numbers were largely accurate, it all went wrong for them when they applied their turnout/likely to vote filters.
Had they used their 2015 methodologies they would have mostly got the 2017 general election spot on.0 -
We need Survation to poll London just before the local elections and then compare the figures to the actual votes in the capital on May 3rd.0
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I did a YouGov poll yesterday that covered that.williamglenn said:As far as I'm aware there hasn't been a Leave/Remain poll since Salisbury?
I'm hopeful we'll see it overnight/tomorrow in The Times.0 -
Surely it's all margin of error stuff when it's so close?.TheScreamingEagles said:
All of them have.another_richard said:How many pollsters have changed their methodolgy since the general election ?
The ironic thing is in 2017 their weighted numbers were largely accurate, it all went wrong for them when they applied their turnout/likely to vote filters.
Had they used their 2015 methodologies they would have mostly got the 2017 general election spot on.0 -
I fear some people will fixate on the use of the phrase "highly likely".williamglenn said:twitter.com/eucopresident/status/976936930238713857
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Criticise Radiohead? express a liking for pineapple pizza? the possibilities are endless...GarethoftheVale2 said:Not sure why my last comment disappeared. Did I say something wrong?
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We haven't had much locals polling have we?0
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Just London polling.TheWhiteRabbit said:We haven't had much locals polling have we?
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So do everyone other than Corbyn and cowilliamglenn said:0 -
Apparently today the rozzers arrested a woman for playing a toy trumpet during the protest.FrancisUrquhart said:Tree-gate still rumbling on...
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Wasn't the Survation poll undertaken after a bunch of "on a scale of 1 to 10, how much of a bunch of bastards are the Tories?" type questions though?0
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No.MarqueeMark said:Wasn't the Survation poll undertaken after a bunch of "on a scale of 1 to 10, how much of a bunch of bastards are the Tories?" type questions though?
The VI question was the second question asked after likelihood to vote.0 -
Sad news that the founder of Toys R Us has died a week after his company folded.
Although, as his name was Charles Lazarus, I suppose we have to ask "Or has he?"0 -
It's hard to count the number of ways in which this is wrong...Foxy said:Criticise Radiohead? express a liking for pineapple pizza? the possibilities are endless...
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bgj9ESrB633/?taken-by=mattsurelee0 -
They should have just created a couple of Facebook apps....Eg Like a personality test for wannabe jahadis to tell them if they have what it takes.TheScreamingEagles said:twitter.com/benrileysmith/status/976942117393260545
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It is utter vandalism, very very sad. I'm hopeful people will vote for the best placed Labour challengers in their ward come MayFrancisUrquhart said:Tree-gate still rumbling on...
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How can "just anchovies" not be the worst possible pizza topping? (Although I hate olives, so that would get my vote....)Scott_P said:
It's hard to count the number of ways in which this is wrong...Foxy said:Criticise Radiohead? express a liking for pineapple pizza? the possibilities are endless...
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bgj9ESrB633/?taken-by=mattsurelee0 -
Olives are only slightly behind pineapple for the worst topping on pizza.MarqueeMark said:
How can "just anchovies" not be the worst possible pizza topping? (Although I hate olives, so that would get my vote....)Scott_P said:
It's hard to count the number of ways in which this is wrong...Foxy said:Criticise Radiohead? express a liking for pineapple pizza? the possibilities are endless...
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bgj9ESrB633/?taken-by=mattsurelee
J'adore anchovies.0 -
Ah OK, had heard otherwise.TheScreamingEagles said:
No.MarqueeMark said:Wasn't the Survation poll undertaken after a bunch of "on a scale of 1 to 10, how much of a bunch of bastards are the Tories?" type questions though?
The VI question was the second question asked after likelihood to vote.
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Black olives are the Devil's dangleberries.....TheScreamingEagles said:
Olives are only slightly behind pineapple for the worst topping on pizza.MarqueeMark said:
How can "just anchovies" not be the worst possible pizza topping? (Although I hate olives, so that would get my vote....)Scott_P said:
It's hard to count the number of ways in which this is wrong...Foxy said:Criticise Radiohead? express a liking for pineapple pizza? the possibilities are endless...
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bgj9ESrB633/?taken-by=mattsurelee
J'adore anchovies.0 -
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There is a Dr Lazarus practicing as a GP in Leicester, surely an auspicious name? certainly better than the Surgeon that I worked for - Mr Pain.MarqueeMark said:Sad news that the founder of Toys R Us has died a week after his company folded.
Although, as his name was Charles Lazarus, I suppose we have to ask "Or has he?"0 -
I think you mean the best placed challengers to Labour.Pulpstar said:
It is utter vandalism, very very sad. I'm hopeful people will vote for the best placed Labour challengers in their ward come MayFrancisUrquhart said:Tree-gate still rumbling on...
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Re the story in the right, there has been research that shows contrary to perceived wisdom you really don't want cuddle grey haired old doctor. Outcomes are far better with somebody a few years out of training.Scott_P said:twitter.com/hendopolis/status/976945755150745600
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Black olives aren’t as bad as meatballs that diagram is wrong in any number of ways.MarqueeMark said:
Black olives are the Devil's dangleberries.....TheScreamingEagles said:
Olives are only slightly behind pineapple for the worst topping on pizza.MarqueeMark said:
How can "just anchovies" not be the worst possible pizza topping? (Although I hate olives, so that would get my vote....)Scott_P said:
It's hard to count the number of ways in which this is wrong...Foxy said:Criticise Radiohead? express a liking for pineapple pizza? the possibilities are endless...
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bgj9ESrB633/?taken-by=mattsurelee
J'adore anchovies.
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Like an eejit child I missed the BPC lecture on the changes (http://www.britishpollingcouncil.org/polls-2017-election-bpc-conference/ ) and they haven't released the slides yet. So if you have sources for that blanket statement I will light a candle for you.TheScreamingEagles said:
All of them have.another_richard said:How many pollsters have changed their methodolgy since the general election ?
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Hah yes of course.slade said:
I think you mean the best placed challengers to Labour.Pulpstar said:
It is utter vandalism, very very sad. I'm hopeful people will vote for the best placed Labour challengers in their ward come MayFrancisUrquhart said:Tree-gate still rumbling on...
https://twitter.com/dinosofos/status/976825661930266624?s=21
In the centre that's the greens, west side Lib Dems and far north maybe the Tories, from memory !0 -
It'll be interesting to see which terrorists follow Radiohead on Facebook.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Problem of course in local elections is the woeful turnout. I doubt many people appreciate that 300,000 more Londoners voted leave than voted for Sadiq Khan in summer 2016 - far less interest in local elections.AndyJS said:We need Survation to poll London just before the local elections and then compare the figures to the actual votes in the capital on May 3rd.
People might turn out to get the Tories out of Westminster but might be quite happy with the way they run the City of Westminster or not feel strongly enough to bother.0 -
I am tempted to say "OK, go on then: name everybody and for each one give a link". But I suspect that would be cruel.Floater said:
So do everyone other than Corbyn and cowilliamglenn said:0 -
Yes "just anchovies" implies a pizza dripping in anchovies and nowt else.MarqueeMark said:
How can "just anchovies" not be the worst possible pizza topping? (Although I hate olives, so that would get my vote....)Scott_P said:
It's hard to count the number of ways in which this is wrong...Foxy said:Criticise Radiohead? express a liking for pineapple pizza? the possibilities are endless...
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bgj9ESrB633/?taken-by=mattsurelee
That doesn't sound very nice.0 -
I'll try and do a thread on it next weekend, not this weekend.viewcode said:
Like an eejit child I missed the BPC lecture on the changes (http://www.britishpollingcouncil.org/polls-2017-election-bpc-conference/ ) and they haven't released the slides yet. So if you have sources for that blanket statement I will light a candle for you.TheScreamingEagles said:
All of them have.another_richard said:How many pollsters have changed their methodolgy since the general election ?
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TSE fixed it for me.GarethoftheVale2 said:Not sure why my last comment disappeared. Did I say something wrong?
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McMaster has been fired. Replaced by Bolton0
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A pizza Napoleanata is usually anchovy, capers, tomatoes and mozarella, but black olives with stones are sometimes included. It is one of my favourites.rcs1000 said:
Yes "just anchovies" implies a pizza dripping in anchovies and nowt else.MarqueeMark said:
How can "just anchovies" not be the worst possible pizza topping? (Although I hate olives, so that would get my vote....)Scott_P said:
It's hard to count the number of ways in which this is wrong...Foxy said:Criticise Radiohead? express a liking for pineapple pizza? the possibilities are endless...
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bgj9ESrB633/?taken-by=mattsurelee
That doesn't sound very nice.
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There is a rumour of more outputs from the Mueller investigation being publicly announced tomorrow.0
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What about voters in South West Sheffield?Pulpstar said:
Hah yes of course.slade said:
I think you mean the best placed challengers to Labour.Pulpstar said:
It is utter vandalism, very very sad. I'm hopeful people will vote for the best placed Labour challengers in their ward come MayFrancisUrquhart said:Tree-gate still rumbling on...
https://twitter.com/dinosofos/status/976825661930266624?s=21
In the centre that's the greens, west side Lib Dems and far north maybe the Tories, from memory !0 -
Another grown-up has left the building.tlg86 said:McMaster has been fired. Replaced by Bolton
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So we're going to find out if that pact between McMaster, Kelly, and Mattis really does exist.tlg86 said:McMaster has been fired. Replaced by Bolton
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https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/976948048453668870
The White House looks to have got instability sorted internally. Time to go global.0 -
If this is true, is it really something that should be published?TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Satire is dead.
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Soullless hates of western culture ...?rcs1000 said:
It'll be interesting to see which terrorists follow Radiohead on Facebook.TheScreamingEagles said:
Possible, I guess.
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A venn diagram of those with terrorist tendencies and those that like Radiohead: Orcs1000 said:
It'll be interesting to see which terrorists follow Radiohead on Facebook.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Not necessarily. Bit like gentleman's relish on toast.rcs1000 said:
Yes "just anchovies" implies a pizza dripping in anchovies and nowt else.MarqueeMark said:
How can "just anchovies" not be the worst possible pizza topping? (Although I hate olives, so that would get my vote....)Scott_P said:
It's hard to count the number of ways in which this is wrong...Foxy said:Criticise Radiohead? express a liking for pineapple pizza? the possibilities are endless...
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bgj9ESrB633/?taken-by=mattsurelee
That doesn't sound very nice.
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The question will be asked do all terrorist like Radiohead, or does listening to Radiohead make you feel so depressed about your life and the world that you become open to indoctrination into the ISIS cult.0
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Diamonds in DoreTheScreamingEagles said:
What about voters in South West Sheffield?Pulpstar said:
Hah yes of course.slade said:
I think you mean the best placed challengers to Labour.Pulpstar said:
It is utter vandalism, very very sad. I'm hopeful people will vote for the best placed Labour challengers in their ward come MayFrancisUrquhart said:Tree-gate still rumbling on...
https://twitter.com/dinosofos/status/976825661930266624?s=21
In the centre that's the greens, west side Lib Dems and far north maybe the Tories, from memory !0 -
Is that two concentric circles of identical size ?DavidL said:
A venn diagram of those with terrorist tendencies and those that like Radiohead: Orcs1000 said:
It'll be interesting to see which terrorists follow Radiohead on Facebook.TheScreamingEagles said:
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I thought it was only Remainers obsessed with this story.williamglenn said:Satire is dead.
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Yes, and completely overlapping of course.Nigelb said:
Is that two concentric circles of identical size ?DavidL said:
A venn diagram of those with terrorist tendencies and those that like Radiohead: Orcs1000 said:
It'll be interesting to see which terrorists follow Radiohead on Facebook.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Necessarily implied by my description, surely.DavidL said:
Yes, and completely overlapping of course.Nigelb said:
Is that two concentric circles of identical size ?DavidL said:
A venn diagram of those with terrorist tendencies and those that like Radiohead: Orcs1000 said:
It'll be interesting to see which terrorists follow Radiohead on Facebook.TheScreamingEagles said:
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I'm a bit doubtful about the "MPs and workers" line. I suppose workers sounds better than pensioners.TheScreamingEagles said:I thought it was only Remainers obsessed with this story.
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Tree-gate report...Council and plod seem like they have gone completely bonkers.
http://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-43488373/anger-over-sheffield-s-plan-to-fell-healthy-trees0 -
O/T I didn't have one of my better days today. I was driving to Aberdeen and my car caught fire, eventually burning out almost completely. No one hurt thankfully but pretty damn depressing.
What impressed me most is that when my car was very well lit and spewing black smoke over the carriageway the Firemen went right up to it and started hosing it down. Personally, I was about 30m away because I was genuinely concerned that the fuel tank might explode. The casual bravery of these men is just so impressive.0 -
Sorry, not at my best. See previous post.Nigelb said:
Necessarily implied by my description, surely.DavidL said:
Yes, and completely overlapping of course.Nigelb said:
Is that two concentric circles of identical size ?DavidL said:
A venn diagram of those with terrorist tendencies and those that like Radiohead: Orcs1000 said:
It'll be interesting to see which terrorists follow Radiohead on Facebook.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Crikey.DavidL said:O/T I didn't have one of my better days today. I was driving to Aberdeen and my car caught fire, eventually burning out almost completely. No one hurt thankfully but pretty damn depressing.
What impressed me most is that when my car was very well lit and spewing black smoke over the carriageway the Firemen went right up to it and started hosing it down. Personally, I was about 30m away because I was genuinely concerned that the fuel tank might explode. The casual bravery of these men is just so impressive.0 -
So did I. What a ridiculous headlineTheScreamingEagles said:
I thought it was only Remainers obsessed with this story.williamglenn said:Satire is dead.
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John Bolton published his job application last month: "The Legal Case for Striking North Korea First"
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-legal-case-for-striking-north-korea-first-15198623740 -
Blimey. Glad you're okDavidL said:O/T I didn't have one of my better days today. I was driving to Aberdeen and my car caught fire, eventually burning out almost completely. No one hurt thankfully but pretty damn depressing.
What impressed me most is that when my car was very well lit and spewing black smoke over the carriageway the Firemen went right up to it and started hosing it down. Personally, I was about 30m away because I was genuinely concerned that the fuel tank might explode. The casual bravery of these men is just so impressive.0 -
No pizza is truly complete without both anchovies and olives imo.MarqueeMark said:
Black olives are the Devil's dangleberries.....TheScreamingEagles said:
Olives are only slightly behind pineapple for the worst topping on pizza.MarqueeMark said:
How can "just anchovies" not be the worst possible pizza topping? (Although I hate olives, so that would get my vote....)Scott_P said:
It's hard to count the number of ways in which this is wrong...Foxy said:Criticise Radiohead? express a liking for pineapple pizza? the possibilities are endless...
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bgj9ESrB633/?taken-by=mattsurelee
J'adore anchovies.0 -
Bolton Trump's new Nat Sec advisor.
Be afraid. Be very afraid.0 -
While I am a fan of both, they do spoil that king of pizzas, the Hawaiian.Benpointer said:
No pizza is truly complete without both anchovies and olives imo.MarqueeMark said:
Black olives are the Devil's dangleberries.....TheScreamingEagles said:
Olives are only slightly behind pineapple for the worst topping on pizza.MarqueeMark said:
How can "just anchovies" not be the worst possible pizza topping? (Although I hate olives, so that would get my vote....)Scott_P said:
It's hard to count the number of ways in which this is wrong...Foxy said:Criticise Radiohead? express a liking for pineapple pizza? the possibilities are endless...
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bgj9ESrB633/?taken-by=mattsurelee
J'adore anchovies.0 -
From the outside it looks like De La Rue bid high in the belief that the Government would feel obliged to keep the contract here, and have now leaked the likely outcome to try to salvage the situation. Good on the Government for calling their bluff.Pulpstar said:
So did I. What a ridiculous headlineTheScreamingEagles said:
I thought it was only Remainers obsessed with this story.williamglenn said:Satire is dead.
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1) That would be good, thank youTheScreamingEagles said:
I'll try and do a thread on it next weekend, not this weekend.viewcode said:
Like an eejit child I missed the BPC lecture on the changes (http://www.britishpollingcouncil.org/polls-2017-election-bpc-conference/ ) and they haven't released the slides yet. So if you have sources for that blanket statement I will light a candle for you.TheScreamingEagles said:
All of them have.another_richard said:How many pollsters have changed their methodolgy since the general election ?
2) Could you send me the links please? If you don't want to post them here, perfectly happy to do it by email
3) Ah! Somebody who gets the "this/next" situation[1]
[1] http://www.englishlessonsbrighton.co.uk/this-next-day-week/0 -
Alarming stuff - hope you're OK ?DavidL said:O/T I didn't have one of my better days today. I was driving to Aberdeen and my car caught fire, eventually burning out almost completely. No one hurt thankfully but pretty damn depressing.
What impressed me most is that when my car was very well lit and spewing black smoke over the carriageway the Firemen went right up to it and started hosing it down. Personally, I was about 30m away because I was genuinely concerned that the fuel tank might explode. The casual bravery of these men is just so impressive.
Their confidence is as much training as casual bravery,though.
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Well, that will help me get off to sleep!williamglenn said:John Bolton published his job application last month: "The Legal Case for Striking North Korea First"
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-legal-case-for-striking-north-korea-first-15198623740 -
Agreed 100%.Tissue_Price said:
From the outside it looks like De La Rue bid high in the belief that the Government would feel obliged to keep the contract here, and have now leaked the likely outcome to try to salvage the situation. Good on the Government for calling their bluff.Pulpstar said:
So did I. What a ridiculous headlineTheScreamingEagles said:
I thought it was only Remainers obsessed with this story.williamglenn said:Satire is dead.
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That doesn't actually mean they are pals. That means they've met twice.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Yes I am fine but everything reeks of smoke. I take the point of training but they impressed the hell out of me today. They did seem relieved it was a diesel rather than petrol but the heat was intense with almost all of the aluminium at the front and on the bonnet burnt away.Nigelb said:
Alarming stuff - hope you're OK ?DavidL said:O/T I didn't have one of my better days today. I was driving to Aberdeen and my car caught fire, eventually burning out almost completely. No one hurt thankfully but pretty damn depressing.
What impressed me most is that when my car was very well lit and spewing black smoke over the carriageway the Firemen went right up to it and started hosing it down. Personally, I was about 30m away because I was genuinely concerned that the fuel tank might explode. The casual bravery of these men is just so impressive.
Their confidence is as much training as casual bravery,though.0 -
You can put a match out in a bucket of petrol. (So long as you've blown away the vapour first.)DavidL said:O/T I didn't have one of my better days today. I was driving to Aberdeen and my car caught fire, eventually burning out almost completely. No one hurt thankfully but pretty damn depressing.
What impressed me most is that when my car was very well lit and spewing black smoke over the carriageway the Firemen went right up to it and started hosing it down. Personally, I was about 30m away because I was genuinely concerned that the fuel tank might explode. The casual bravery of these men is just so impressive.0 -
( ...but don't try this one at home.)rcs1000 said:
You can put a match out in a bucket of petrol. (So long as you've blown away the vapour first.)DavidL said:O/T I didn't have one of my better days today. I was driving to Aberdeen and my car caught fire, eventually burning out almost completely. No one hurt thankfully but pretty damn depressing.
What impressed me most is that when my car was very well lit and spewing black smoke over the carriageway the Firemen went right up to it and started hosing it down. Personally, I was about 30m away because I was genuinely concerned that the fuel tank might explode. The casual bravery of these men is just so impressive.0 -
Well yes, I suppose you could. Whether it is a wise thing to do is another matter, especially when it is hot.rcs1000 said:
You can put a match out in a bucket of petrol. (So long as you've blown away the vapour first.)DavidL said:O/T I didn't have one of my better days today. I was driving to Aberdeen and my car caught fire, eventually burning out almost completely. No one hurt thankfully but pretty damn depressing.
What impressed me most is that when my car was very well lit and spewing black smoke over the carriageway the Firemen went right up to it and started hosing it down. Personally, I was about 30m away because I was genuinely concerned that the fuel tank might explode. The casual bravery of these men is just so impressive.0 -
Good points.brendan16 said:
Problem of course in local elections is the woeful turnout. I doubt many people appreciate that 300,000 more Londoners voted leave than voted for Sadiq Khan in summer 2016 - far less interest in local elections.AndyJS said:We need Survation to poll London just before the local elections and then compare the figures to the actual votes in the capital on May 3rd.
People might turn out to get the Tories out of Westminster but might be quite happy with the way they run the City of Westminster or not feel strongly enough to bother.0 -
I'm sorry about your car. It sounds like a scary and unpleasant thing. I'm glad you are unhurt and posting on PB.DavidL said:
Well yes, I suppose you could. Whether it is a wise thing to do is another matter, especially when it is hot.rcs1000 said:
You can put a match out in a bucket of petrol. (So long as you've blown away the vapour first.)DavidL said:O/T I didn't have one of my better days today. I was driving to Aberdeen and my car caught fire, eventually burning out almost completely. No one hurt thankfully but pretty damn depressing.
What impressed me most is that when my car was very well lit and spewing black smoke over the carriageway the Firemen went right up to it and started hosing it down. Personally, I was about 30m away because I was genuinely concerned that the fuel tank might explode. The casual bravery of these men is just so impressive.0 -
I would think that a rather hazardous experiment, as the vapour pressure of petrol would replenish it too quickly for the test.rcs1000 said:
You can put a match out in a bucket of petrol. (So long as you've blown away the vapour first.)DavidL said:O/T I didn't have one of my better days today. I was driving to Aberdeen and my car caught fire, eventually burning out almost completely. No one hurt thankfully but pretty damn depressing.
What impressed me most is that when my car was very well lit and spewing black smoke over the carriageway the Firemen went right up to it and started hosing it down. Personally, I was about 30m away because I was genuinely concerned that the fuel tank might explode. The casual bravery of these men is just so impressive.
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Will do.viewcode said:
1) That would be good, thank youTheScreamingEagles said:
I'll try and do a thread on it next weekend, not this weekend.viewcode said:
Like an eejit child I missed the BPC lecture on the changes (http://www.britishpollingcouncil.org/polls-2017-election-bpc-conference/ ) and they haven't released the slides yet. So if you have sources for that blanket statement I will light a candle for you.TheScreamingEagles said:
All of them have.another_richard said:How many pollsters have changed their methodolgy since the general election ?
2) Could you send me the links please? If you don't want to post them here, perfectly happy to do it by email
3) Ah! Somebody who gets the "this/next" situation[1]
[1] http://www.englishlessonsbrighton.co.uk/this-next-day-week/
I'm hoping to get a few pollsters to go on the record.0 -
The irrational and the incompetent.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
williamglenn said:
Satire is dead.
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/976949703630827520
I'd love to know who the Mail thinks are members of Britain's ruling class.0 -
Cars will burn hot but they are very unlikely to explode, especially if they are diesel. Not a fun way to spend your day however.DavidL said:
Yes I am fine but everything reeks of smoke. I take the point of training but they impressed the hell out of me today. They did seem relieved it was a diesel rather than petrol but the heat was intense with almost all of the aluminium at the front and on the bonnet burnt away.Nigelb said:
Alarming stuff - hope you're OK ?DavidL said:O/T I didn't have one of my better days today. I was driving to Aberdeen and my car caught fire, eventually burning out almost completely. No one hurt thankfully but pretty damn depressing.
What impressed me most is that when my car was very well lit and spewing black smoke over the carriageway the Firemen went right up to it and started hosing it down. Personally, I was about 30m away because I was genuinely concerned that the fuel tank might explode. The casual bravery of these men is just so impressive.
Their confidence is as much training as casual bravery,though.0 -
Blimey thank goodness you are ok.DavidL said:O/T I didn't have one of my better days today. I was driving to Aberdeen and my car caught fire, eventually burning out almost completely. No one hurt thankfully but pretty damn depressing.
What impressed me most is that when my car was very well lit and spewing black smoke over the carriageway the Firemen went right up to it and started hosing it down. Personally, I was about 30m away because I was genuinely concerned that the fuel tank might explode. The casual bravery of these men is just so impressive.
May I ask how a car just catches fire these days?0 -
Why are remainers obsessed by blue passports ?0
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Really not sure. I think there was a problem with the clutch because the gears suddenly started slipping and I started to lose power just before I stopped. How that led to a fire I really don't know.TOPPING said:
Blimey thank goodness you are ok.DavidL said:O/T I didn't have one of my better days today. I was driving to Aberdeen and my car caught fire, eventually burning out almost completely. No one hurt thankfully but pretty damn depressing.
What impressed me most is that when my car was very well lit and spewing black smoke over the carriageway the Firemen went right up to it and started hosing it down. Personally, I was about 30m away because I was genuinely concerned that the fuel tank might explode. The casual bravery of these men is just so impressive.
May I ask how a car just catches fire these days?0