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The deal with North Korea is very much in the making and will be, if completed, a very good one for the World. Time and place to be determined.

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  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 87,533
    I know it is an old tweet, but only somebody as thick as mince would ever think of describing Russia today as objective on any subject...

    https://order-order.com/2018/03/11/mcdonnell-orders-labour-mps-stop-appearing-russia-today/

    Perhaps jezza has more in common with trump than one would imagine.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 44,968
    edited March 2018
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    I know it is an old tweet, but only somebody as thick as mince would ever think of describing Russia today as objective on any subject...

    https://order-order.com/2018/03/11/mcdonnell-orders-labour-mps-stop-appearing-russia-today/

    Perhaps jezza has more in common with trump than one would imagine.

    that took a while to appear, on topic , Jezza is useless.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 87,533
    At a highway check point on the outskirts of Beijing, local police are this week testing out a new security tool: smart glasses that can pick up facial features and car registration plates, and match them in real-time with a database of suspects. The AI-powered glasses, made by LLVision, scan the faces of vehicle occupants and the plates, flagging with a red box and warning sign to the wearer when any match up with a centralized "blacklist".

    Better not get caught with any pooh bear related material...
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,391
    FPT
    ydoethur said:

    One thought that occurs to me is that if a Speaker is elected in the near future Kenneth Clarke would be presiding as Father of the House.

    I would pay good money to watch that!

    There are different procedures for election of a Speaker in the course of a Parliamentary session rather than at its beginning, so it may or may not be the case that it would be the Father of the House:

    'If the retiring Speaker is present, he remains in the Chair until the House has come to a decision upon his successor, at which point he leaves the Chair and the Mace is placed under the Table; but if he has already ceased to be a member of the House...the election is conducted in the same manner as at the beginning of a session, with the Member of longest service in the Chair".

    That would seem to read that Bercow would preside over his successor, unless he has already resigned from the Commons?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 55,867
    Motty's final commentary currently on Five Live.
  • Beverley_CBeverley_C Posts: 6,256
    Only Trump could go to North Korea?

    With a bit of luck, he will stay there.

    Tricky Dicky might have been better advised to stay in China too... :D
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,756
    oooh

    https://twitter.com/danbloom1/status/972838604086095873
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 55,867
    https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/liberal-democrats/news/93511/vince-cable-says-some-brexit-voters-nostalgic

    If people want white faces, then forget Brexit - the LibDems are the place they need to be.
  • Beverley_CBeverley_C Posts: 6,256
    Actually, whilst on Star Trek VI - the theme was the old crusties and nationalistic types rebelling against enlargement, free movement and realising that foreigner are people too....

    How very foresighted of the writers back in the early 90s given the present day situation on both sides of the Atlantic.

    I will get my hat and coat very short dress and tricorder
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 39,532
    MarqueeMark said:

    https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/liberal-democrats/news/93511/vince-cable-says-some-brexit-voters-nostalgic

    If people want white faces, then forget Brexit - the LibDems are the place they need to be.

    It was people in their 40's and 50's who tipped the balance in favour of Brexit. Even if not a single pensioner had voted, 48% would have still backed Brexit.
  • brendan16brendan16 Posts: 2,315
    edited March 2018
    Just some light relief.

    Apparently Bolton Momentum had a meeting yesterday to discuss how they were going to protest against the Tories 'disgraceful' anti democratic plans to require people to provide ID when voting in elections.

    The event was for members only and attendees were instructed to bring their membership cards as proof of ID.

    Surely a subversion of democracy - why shouldn't anyone be allowed to turn up and vote at Momentum meetings without ID?

    https://mobile.twitter.com/EssexCanning/status/972107542687043585/photo/1
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 39,532
    MarqueeMark said:

    https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/liberal-democrats/news/93511/vince-cable-says-some-brexit-voters-nostalgic

    If people want white faces, then forget Brexit - the LibDems are the place they need to be.

    TBF, Vince Cable criticised his audience for being White, as well.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 55,867
    Bit of an odd one:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-43363588
  • GarethoftheVale2GarethoftheVale2 Posts: 2,403
    Regarding the potential Speaker election, we need to look at what MPs are likely to be looking for. In my view it is someone who can be a safe pair of hands, uncontroversial and without a massive ego. It's also worth remembering that over two-thirds of MPs are men and that a majority originally supported Remain.

    Based on that I would rule out Mogg, Harman, Field and Hoey

    To my mind, the obvious choices are Hoyle and Laing.
  • brendan16brendan16 Posts: 2,315
    edited March 2018
    MarqueeMark said:

    https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/liberal-democrats/news/93511/vince-cable-says-some-brexit-voters-nostalgic

    If people want white faces, then forget Brexit - the LibDems are the place they need to be.

    Alternatively you could just preach about the merits of diversity and then decide to live in the least diverse area of London where you are most likely to see almost entirely white faces - Richmond and Twickenham.

  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 87,533
    GarethoftheVale2 said:

    Regarding the potential Speaker election, we need to look at what MPs are likely to be looking for. In my view it is someone who can be a safe pair of hands, uncontroversial and without a massive ego. It's also worth remembering that over two-thirds of MPs are men and that a majority originally supported Remain.

    Based on that I would rule out Mogg, Harman, Field and Hoey

    To my mind, the obvious choices are Hoyle and Laing.

    If the job was based on merit Hoyle would be a cert.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 39,532
    brendan16 said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/liberal-democrats/news/93511/vince-cable-says-some-brexit-voters-nostalgic

    If people want white faces, then forget Brexit - the LibDems are the place they need to be.

    Alternatively you could just preach about the merits of diversity and then decide to live in the least diverse area of London where you are most likely to see almost entirely white faces - Richmond and Twickenham.

    I don't think there's a single seat with a substantial non-White population, where the Lib Dems are in contention.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,880
    edited March 2018
    Don’t these idiots know the wires above the tracks will give you a very nasty shock? https://twitter.com/nationalrailenq/status/972831446523174912
  • Ishmael_ZIshmael_Z Posts: 8,981
    brendan16 said:

    Just some light relief.

    Apparently Bolton Momentum had a meeting yesterday to discuss how they were going to protest against the Tories 'disgraceful' anti democratic plans to require people to provide ID when voting in elections.

    The event was for members only and attendees were instructed to bring their membership cards as proof of ID.

    Surely a subversion of democracy - why shouldn't anyone be allowed to turn up and vote at Momentum meetings without ID?

    https://mobile.twitter.com/EssexCanning/status/972107542687043585/photo/1

    spoof.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 87,533
    Sandpit said:

    twitter.com/nationalrailenq/status/972831446523174912

    Twats....
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 35,693
    Russia; Vladivostok
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 35,693
    Sean_F said:

    brendan16 said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/liberal-democrats/news/93511/vince-cable-says-some-brexit-voters-nostalgic

    If people want white faces, then forget Brexit - the LibDems are the place they need to be.

    Alternatively you could just preach about the merits of diversity and then decide to live in the least diverse area of London where you are most likely to see almost entirely white faces - Richmond and Twickenham.

    I don't think there's a single seat with a substantial non-White population, where the Lib Dems are in contention.
    Bradford East? If David Ward makes his peace. or vice versa.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 55,867
    Sean_F said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/liberal-democrats/news/93511/vince-cable-says-some-brexit-voters-nostalgic

    If people want white faces, then forget Brexit - the LibDems are the place they need to be.

    TBF, Vince Cable criticised his audience for being White, as well.
    It's a bit odd to criticise the audience, unless he was thinking they should have blacked up for his speech....
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 47,025
    edited March 2018
    Sandpit said:

    Don’t these idiots know the wires above the tracks will give you a very nasty shock? https://twitter.com/nationalrailenq/status/972831446523174912

    At 25Kv you don't even need to touch them.

    Many moons ago, BR used to carry trainloads of new cars from factories. A criminal gang used to get on the trains during the journey and go from car to car, removing the radios. Until one of them was found electrocuted on one of the wagons, having got a little too close to the wires ...

    (this may be an urban myth, but I think it was in the 1980s).

    Edit: or even worse, trying to steal an overhead cable:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-25447936
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 75,258
    Sandpit said:

    Don’t these idiots know the wires above the tracks will give you a very nasty shock? https://twitter.com/nationalrailenq/status/972831446523174912

    If they don't they're in for two nasty shocks. Plus a Darwin Award.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 47,025
    In other news:

    "Momentum chief Jon Lansman drops Labour general secretary bid"

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43364336
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 75,258
    If Trump can bring peace between North Korea and the US, I will take back one of the nasty things I have said about him.

    I will stop comparing him to Jeremy Corbyn.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 39,532
    OldKingCole said:

    Sean_F said:

    brendan16 said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/liberal-democrats/news/93511/vince-cable-says-some-brexit-voters-nostalgic

    If people want white faces, then forget Brexit - the LibDems are the place they need to be.

    Alternatively you could just preach about the merits of diversity and then decide to live in the least diverse area of London where you are most likely to see almost entirely white faces - Richmond and Twickenham.

    I don't think there's a single seat with a substantial non-White population, where the Lib Dems are in contention.
    Bradford East? If David Ward makes his peace. or vice versa.
    Not even Bradford East. Ward got 8% as an independent, the official Lib Dem got 2%.
  • MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584
    MarqueeMark said:

    Sean_F said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/liberal-democrats/news/93511/vince-cable-says-some-brexit-voters-nostalgic

    If people want white faces, then forget Brexit - the LibDems are the place they need to be.

    TBF, Vince Cable criticised his audience for being White, as well.
    It's a bit odd to criticise the audience, unless he was thinking they should have blacked up for his speech....

    Surpirsed he didn't break out a whip, start hitting himself with it, crying: "I am too white. I am too white".

  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 75,258
    JosiasJessop said:

    Sandpit said:

    Don’t these idiots know the wires above the tracks will give you a very nasty shock? https://twitter.com/nationalrailenq/status/972831446523174912

    At 25Kv you don't even need to touch them.

    Many moons ago, BR used to carry trainloads of new cars from factories. A criminal gang used to get on the trains during the journey and go from car to car, removing the radios. Until one of them was found electrocuted on one of the wagons, having got a little too close to the wires ...

    (this may be an urban myth, but I think it was in the 1980s).

    Edit: or even worse, trying to steal an overhead cable:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-25447936
    There's this one as well although he did touch it:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-25447936
  • brendan16brendan16 Posts: 2,315
    edited March 2018
    Sandpit said:

    Don’t these idiots know the wires above the tracks will give you a very nasty shock? https://twitter.com/nationalrailenq/status/972831446523174912

    Seems to be a protest against the Turkish governments intervention in Syria - oddly something we have had surprisingly little coverage of. Still not quite sure how stopping trains in Manchester is going to make Erdogan change his policies.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,314
    ydoethur said:

    If Trump can bring peace between North Korea and the US, I will take back one of the nasty things I have said about him.

    He's probably already drawing up plans for a Trump Pyongyang skyscraper.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 87,533
    williamglenn said:

    ydoethur said:

    If Trump can bring peace between North Korea and the US, I will take back one of the nasty things I have said about him.

    He's probably already drawing up plans for a Trump Pyongyang skyscraper.
    Where one can stay in the Dennis rodman honeymoon suite...
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 75,258
    edited March 2018
    williamglenn said:

    ydoethur said:

    If Trump can bring peace between North Korea and the US, I will take back one of the nasty things I have said about him.

    He's probably already drawing up plans for a Trump Pyongyang skyscraper.
    When you consider all the incredibly damaging things he could be doing (e.g. Tweeting) I'm happy for him to spend his time doing that...
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,391
    williamglenn said:

    ydoethur said:

    If Trump can bring peace between North Korea and the US, I will take back one of the nasty things I have said about him.

    He's probably already drawing up plans for a Trump Pyongyang skyscraper.
    Or selecting a movie for them all to watch together as an ice breaker. Perhaps "The Interview"?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 87,533
    I wonder if trump and rocket man will go for a game of golf?
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 35,693
    ydoethur said:

    JosiasJessop said:

    Sandpit said:

    Don’t these idiots know the wires above the tracks will give you a very nasty shock? https://twitter.com/nationalrailenq/status/972831446523174912

    At 25Kv you don't even need to touch them.

    Many moons ago, BR used to carry trainloads of new cars from factories. A criminal gang used to get on the trains during the journey and go from car to car, removing the radios. Until one of them was found electrocuted on one of the wagons, having got a little too close to the wires ...

    (this may be an urban myth, but I think it was in the 1980s).

    Edit: or even worse, trying to steal an overhead cable:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-25447936
    There's this one as well although he did touch it:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-25447936
    Got a feeling I knew the family from my days on Canvey. Not the sharpest set of knives.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,880
    brendan16 said:

    Sandpit said:

    Don’t these idiots know the wires above the tracks will give you a very nasty shock? https://twitter.com/nationalrailenq/status/972831446523174912

    Seems to be a protest against the Turkish governments intervention in Syria - oddly something we have had surprisingly little coverage of. Still not quite sure how stopping trains in Manchester is going to make Erdogan change his policies.
    Would outside the Turkish Embassy not be a better place for that protest? Much less chance of a Darwin Award too.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 75,258
    edited March 2018
    OldKingCole said:

    ydoethur said:

    JosiasJessop said:

    Sandpit said:

    Don’t these idiots know the wires above the tracks will give you a very nasty shock? https://twitter.com/nationalrailenq/status/972831446523174912

    At 25Kv you don't even need to touch them.

    Many moons ago, BR used to carry trainloads of new cars from factories. A criminal gang used to get on the trains during the journey and go from car to car, removing the radios. Until one of them was found electrocuted on one of the wagons, having got a little too close to the wires ...

    (this may be an urban myth, but I think it was in the 1980s).

    Edit: or even worse, trying to steal an overhead cable:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-25447936
    There's this one as well although he did touch it:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-25447936
    Got a feeling I knew the family from my days on Canvey. Not the sharpest set of knives.
    Gives a whole new meaning to the expression 'bolt cutters.'
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,391
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    I wonder if trump and rocket man will go for a game of golf?

    Given his dad's prowess with the game, Trump doesn't stand a chance.

    Although
    http://www.golf.com/golf-plus/behind-kim-jong-ils-famous-round-golf
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,891
    Good afternoon, everyone.

    Not tempted by this market. Meeting may not even go ahead.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 44,968
    brendan16 said:

    Sandpit said:

    Don’t these idiots know the wires above the tracks will give you a very nasty shock? https://twitter.com/nationalrailenq/status/972831446523174912

    Seems to be a protest against the Turkish governments intervention in Syria - oddly something we have had surprisingly little coverage of. Still not quite sure how stopping trains in Manchester is going to make Erdogan change his policies.
    His Tory pals certainly gave him the free pass, one of their OK dictators.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,391
    On topic, while I don't doubt odds of 100/1 for it taking place in the UK makes sense, does it really make sense for it to be 6/1 to be in the USA? Based on absolutely nothing I'd have thought neither party would want the other on the soil and face 'he came to me' style taunting.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,314
    Looks like somebody has got under Michael Gove's skin...
    https://twitter.com/michaelgove/status/972833925486841856
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,314
    And Boris is reduced to trolling Emmanuel Macron on Twitter...
    https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/972854028123164673
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,391
    williamglenn said:

    And Boris is reduced to trolling Emmanuel Macron on Twitter...
    https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/972854028123164673

    Funny, you seem to heartily approve when EU political figures make far pettier comments on Twitter. Even ones where people espouse very un-EU like qualities of vindictiveness.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 87,533
    One in three of the UK's top 100 restaurant groups are not making a profit, according to new research into the struggling casual dining sector.

    Just a thought, perhaps there are too many of them....
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 44,968
    williamglenn said:

    Looks like somebody has got under Michael Gove's skin...
    https://twitter.com/michaelgove/status/972833925486841856

    These Tory creeps think the public are real stupid and will forget they are theiving toerags.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 23,373
    The protest in Manchester is doubly effective. Not only does it have people wibbling about it on political websites, but people are also wibbling about it on railway websites. Some of them may even be the same people.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 47,025
    SandyRentool said:

    The protest in Manchester is doubly effective. Not only does it have people wibbling about it on political websites, but people are also wibbling about it on railway websites. Some of them may even be the same people.

    Are you telling us that some posters on here might also be interested in railways? If so, you could not be more wrong. Oh no.

    Hang on, the 15.51's about to pass, and I think it's got 66008 on the front ...
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,880
    SandyRentool said:

    The protest in Manchester is doubly effective. Not only does it have people wibbling about it on political websites, but people are also wibbling about it on railway websites. Some of them may even be the same people.

    I’m not too sure they’re garnering too much sympathy for their cause though.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 67,930
    JosiasJessop said:

    In other news:

    "Momentum chief Jon Lansman drops Labour general secretary bid"

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43364336

    Interesting. Wonder how they 'persuaded' him?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 67,930
    https://twitter.com/Kevin_Maguire/status/972848123969236994
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 67,930
    SandyRentool said:

    The protest in Manchester is doubly effective. Not only does it have people wibbling about it on political websites, but people are also wibbling about it on railway websites. Some of them may even be the same people.

    I refuse to wibble.
  • SquareRootSquareRoot Posts: 7,095
    edited March 2018
    Fantasy budgeting.. McDonnell is bonkers.. He still believes in the magic money tree

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/john-mcdonnell-unveils-labour’s-£70bn-boost-pledge-for-scotland/ar-BBK6cjA?li=AAmiR2Z&ocid=spartandhp
  • glwglw Posts: 10,510
    ydoethur said:

    If Trump can bring peace between North Korea and the US, I will take back one of the nasty things I have said about him.

    I will stop comparing him to Jeremy Corbyn.

    The trouble with Trump is that he is likely to get a very bad deal so that he can crow about making "peace".
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,891
    This is some fantastic bullshit from Cable:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43364331

    A small step away from calling all Leave supporters racists, and no step at all away from saying older voters' opinions are less important than younger voters'.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 39,532
    Morris_Dancer said:

    This is some fantastic bullshit from Cable:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43364331

    A small step away from calling all Leave supporters racists, and no step at all away from saying older voters' opinions are less important than younger voters'.

    Us middle-aged voters don't get a mention at all.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 56,376
    Morris_Dancer said:

    This is some fantastic bullshit from Cable:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43364331

    A small step away from calling all Leave supporters racists, and no step at all away from saying older voters' opinions are less important than younger voters'.

    How old is Cable? Does he have a bit of a point?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 130,244
    edited March 2018
    Morris_Dancer said:

    This is some fantastic bullshit from Cable:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43364331

    A small step away from calling all Leave supporters racists, and no step at all away from saying older voters' opinions are less important than younger voters'.

    That would be the same LD leader whose party has precisely 0 BME MPs compared to Labour's 32 BME MPs and the Tories 19 BME MPs?

    If Cable wants to see a party dominated by the white middle class, he needs look no further than the audience at his Spring Conference!
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,314
    TfL bans advertising campaign from the Normandy government urging British businesses to flee across the Channel to escape Brexit

    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/mar/11/normandy-advert-to-seduce-post-brexit-uk-firms-banned
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,880
    https://twitter.com/nationalrailenq/status/972866347586801665
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,891
    Mr. F, you're neither elderly nor a Millennial. You are therefore a fascist unicorn. Your opinion doesn't exist, and, if it did, it wouldn't be valid.

    Mr. L, he has no point whatsoever. All votes are counted equal, and rightly so. The fact that Cable's elderly is irrelevant, it's his idiocy which is the critical factor. Some fools get off on hating themselves:
    https://twitter.com/prwhittle/status/972727979175501824

    In this case, I think it's simply Cable's fetish for the EU overriding all else. Sod democracy. Sod the electorate. Sod Britain. The EU is what counts in Cable's mind. We can't let things like democracy or the voters stand in the way of the Grand Project.
  • rural_voterrural_voter Posts: 2,038
    SquareRoot said:

    Fantasy budgeting.. McDonnell is bonkers.. He still believes in the magic money tree

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/john-mcdonnell-unveils-labour’s-£70bn-boost-pledge-for-scotland/ar-BBK6cjA?li=AAmiR2Z&ocid=spartandhp

    So do all commercial banks. It's how banking has operated for 300 years or so. Banks which create loans in effect create money out of thin air. The magnitude of it dwarfs the size of QE or government borrowing.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 56,376
    Morris_Dancer said:

    Mr. F, you're neither elderly nor a Millennial. You are therefore a fascist unicorn. Your opinion doesn't exist, and, if it did, it wouldn't be valid.

    Mr. L, he has no point whatsoever. All votes are counted equal, and rightly so. The fact that Cable's elderly is irrelevant, it's his idiocy which is the critical factor. Some fools get off on hating themselves:
    https://twitter.com/prwhittle/status/972727979175501824

    In this case, I think it's simply Cable's fetish for the EU overriding all else. Sod democracy. Sod the electorate. Sod Britain. The EU is what counts in Cable's mind. We can't let things like democracy or the voters stand in the way of the Grand Project.

    Oh I agree. I was just being facetious. To suggest he is past his sell by date is only unfair because he never was value.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 44,968
    DavidL said:

    Morris_Dancer said:

    This is some fantastic bullshit from Cable:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43364331

    A small step away from calling all Leave supporters racists, and no step at all away from saying older voters' opinions are less important than younger voters'.

    How old is Cable? Does he have a bit of a point?
    Check out my avatar David
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,891
    Mr. L, indeed. Facetious, as an aside, is a splendid word. One of few to use every vowel once, in alphabetical order.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 56,376
    malcolmg said:

    DavidL said:

    Morris_Dancer said:

    This is some fantastic bullshit from Cable:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43364331

    A small step away from calling all Leave supporters racists, and no step at all away from saying older voters' opinions are less important than younger voters'.

    How old is Cable? Does he have a bit of a point?
    Check out my avatar David
    Yep, that does indeed look totally ridiculous.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 56,376
    Morris_Dancer said:

    Mr. L, indeed. Facetious, as an aside, is a splendid word. One of few to use every vowel once, in alphabetical order.

    So it does. Never noticed that.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 87,533
    Fraud investigators have been called in after 15 members of the same family received public aid worth up to £1m and at least three new homes by claiming they lived in a single flat destroyed by the Grenfell Tower fire.

    One of Britain’s most notorious “crash-for-cash” fraudsters, Masi Naqshbandi, is among the relatives rehoused in new properties, including flats in a luxury development in Kensington, west London, furnished by John Lewis.

    The Naqshbandi family insist their main residence before the fire on June 14 last year was a three-bedroom flat on the third floor of Grenfell Tower. However, only four names are believed to appear on the original tenancy agreement.

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/1m-fraud-probe-after-15-claimed-over-grenfell-flat-799l2v6x0
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 75,258
    glw said:

    ydoethur said:

    If Trump can bring peace between North Korea and the US, I will take back one of the nasty things I have said about him.

    I will stop comparing him to Jeremy Corbyn.

    The trouble with Trump is that he is likely to get a very bad deal so that he can crow about making "peace".
    In that case I can start comparing him to David Davis, can't I?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 87,533
    Morris_Dancer said:

    Mr. F, you're neither elderly nor a Millennial. You are therefore a fascist unicorn. Your opinion doesn't exist, and, if it did, it wouldn't be valid.

    Mr. L, he has no point whatsoever. All votes are counted equal, and rightly so. The fact that Cable's elderly is irrelevant, it's his idiocy which is the critical factor. Some fools get off on hating themselves:
    https://twitter.com/prwhittle/status/972727979175501824

    In this case, I think it's simply Cable's fetish for the EU overriding all else. Sod democracy. Sod the electorate. Sod Britain. The EU is what counts in Cable's mind. We can't let things like democracy or the voters stand in the way of the Grand Project.

    BTW, Happy You Day to all those mothers people out there...

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/5777644/mothers-day-card-gender-neutral-waitrose/
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 55,867
    williamglenn said:

    And Boris is reduced to trolling Emmanuel Macron on Twitter...
    https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/972854028123164673

    Can it be trolling when he's right? I mean, it might have novelty value, but give him a break....
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 44,968
    DavidL said:

    malcolmg said:

    DavidL said:

    Morris_Dancer said:

    This is some fantastic bullshit from Cable:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43364331

    A small step away from calling all Leave supporters racists, and no step at all away from saying older voters' opinions are less important than younger voters'.

    How old is Cable? Does he have a bit of a point?
    Check out my avatar David
    Yep, that does indeed look totally ridiculous.
    LOL
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,891
    Mr. Urquhart, yeah, saw that daftness.

    Just think, this time in a fortnight the first race will be done. It's somewhat irksome that I tend to either make a loss at the first race, or do well at the first race but have a bad season...
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 55,867
    Harry Kane limps off.....
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 56,376
    edited March 2018
    MarqueeMark said:

    Harry Kane limps off.....

    But Alli equalises. TSE will be delighted.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 87,533
    DavidL said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    Harry Kane limps off.....

    But Alli equalises. TSE will be delighted.
    And without falling over first...
  • Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,069
    Well this is fun.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 39,532
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Morris_Dancer said:

    Mr. F, you're neither elderly nor a Millennial. You are therefore a fascist unicorn. Your opinion doesn't exist, and, if it did, it wouldn't be valid.

    Mr. L, he has no point whatsoever. All votes are counted equal, and rightly so. The fact that Cable's elderly is irrelevant, it's his idiocy which is the critical factor. Some fools get off on hating themselves:
    https://twitter.com/prwhittle/status/972727979175501824

    In this case, I think it's simply Cable's fetish for the EU overriding all else. Sod democracy. Sod the electorate. Sod Britain. The EU is what counts in Cable's mind. We can't let things like democracy or the voters stand in the way of the Grand Project.

    BTW, Happy You Day to all those mothers people out there...

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/5777644/mothers-day-card-gender-neutral-waitrose/
    The article underneath it is about the best way to shave one's pubic hair.
  • DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300
    williamglenn said:

    And Boris is reduced to trolling Emmanuel Macron on Twitter...
    https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/972854028123164673

    Why do I not see that on twitter?
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    rottenborough said:

    JosiasJessop said:

    In other news:

    "Momentum chief Jon Lansman drops Labour general secretary bid"

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43364336

    Interesting. Wonder how they 'persuaded' him?
    Icepick?
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 61,389
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    One in three of the UK's top 100 restaurant groups are not making a profit, according to new research into the struggling casual dining sector.

    Just a thought, perhaps there are too many of them....

    I have a theory (bear with me).

    The continued growth of Internet shopping has resulted in many traditional retail outlets leaving the High Street. This has freed up a lot of space, which has been filled by private equity backed firms all with the unique idea of a "A Class Burger Joint".

    Fortunately, capitalism is a wonderful thing, and there will be a culling.
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    Sean_F said:

    The article underneath it is about the best way to shave one's pubic hair.

    Short, back and sides ??
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 61,389
    HYUFD said:

    Morris_Dancer said:

    This is some fantastic bullshit from Cable:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43364331

    A small step away from calling all Leave supporters racists, and no step at all away from saying older voters' opinions are less important than younger voters'.

    That would be the same LD leader whose party has precisely 0 BME MPs compared to Labour's 32 BME MPs and the Tories 19 BME MPs?

    If Cable wants to see a party dominated by the white middle class, he needs look no further than the audience at his Spring Conference!
    To be fair, when you have a very small sample set (LibDem MPs), there is bound to be a huge amount of volatility.

  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    rcs1000 said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    One in three of the UK's top 100 restaurant groups are not making a profit, according to new research into the struggling casual dining sector.

    Just a thought, perhaps there are too many of them....

    I have a theory (bear with me).

    The continued growth of Internet shopping has resulted in many traditional retail outlets leaving the High Street. This has freed up a lot of space, which has been filled by private equity backed firms all with the unique idea of a "A Class Burger Joint".

    Fortunately, capitalism is a wonderful thing, and there will be a culling.
    "A Class Burger Joint"

    Get stoned and obese in comfort ?!?
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 18,271
    williamglenn said:

    Looks like somebody has got under Michael Gove's skin...
    https://twitter.com/michaelgove/status/972833925486841856

    For someone who imagines himself an intellectual titan, Michael Gove runs.a remarkably petty Twitter feed. There are plenty more tweets where that one came from.
  • brendan16brendan16 Posts: 2,315
    JackW said:

    rcs1000 said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    One in three of the UK's top 100 restaurant groups are not making a profit, according to new research into the struggling casual dining sector.

    Just a thought, perhaps there are too many of them....

    I have a theory (bear with me).

    The continued growth of Internet shopping has resulted in many traditional retail outlets leaving the High Street. This has freed up a lot of space, which has been filled by private equity backed firms all with the unique idea of a "A Class Burger Joint".

    Fortunately, capitalism is a wonderful thing, and there will be a culling.
    "A Class Burger Joint"

    Get stoned and obese in comfort ?!?
    Why pay £7 for one burger when you can feed the entire family in McDonalds for the same price!
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,891
    Mr. 16, because some people have more money than sense.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 130,244
    edited March 2018
    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Morris_Dancer said:

    This is some fantastic bullshit from Cable:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43364331

    A small step away from calling all Leave supporters racists, and no step at all away from saying older voters' opinions are less important than younger voters'.

    That would be the same LD leader whose party has precisely 0 BME MPs compared to Labour's 32 BME MPs and the Tories 19 BME MPs?

    If Cable wants to see a party dominated by the white middle class, he needs look no further than the audience at his Spring Conference!
    To be fair, when you have a very small sample set (LibDem MPs), there is bound to be a huge amount of volatility.

    Maybe but the LDs are a strongly white upper middle class party (though to be fair the new LD MP for Oxford West and Abingdon, Layla Moran, is half Palestinan Christian)
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    brendan16 said:

    Why pay £7 for one burger when you can feed the entire family in McDonalds for the same price!

    What is this McDonald's of which you speak ?? .. some sort of upscale Scottish soup kitchen ??
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 75,258
    edited March 2018
    brendan16 said:

    JackW said:

    rcs1000 said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    One in three of the UK's top 100 restaurant groups are not making a profit, according to new research into the struggling casual dining sector.

    Just a thought, perhaps there are too many of them....

    I have a theory (bear with me).

    The continued growth of Internet shopping has resulted in many traditional retail outlets leaving the High Street. This has freed up a lot of space, which has been filled by private equity backed firms all with the unique idea of a "A Class Burger Joint".

    Fortunately, capitalism is a wonderful thing, and there will be a culling.
    "A Class Burger Joint"

    Get stoned and obese in comfort ?!?
    Why pay £7 for one burger when you can feed the entire family in McDonalds for the same price!
    A Mackie's has no food content though so the money is wasted.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 87,533
    The last time i had the misfortune of visiting one of those McDonald’s places it seemed rather expensive to me...
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 22,107
    Where does Trump have a golf course in the region? It will be there.
  • ElliotElliot Posts: 1,516
    I see McDonnell has now banned Labour MPs doing what him and Corbyn have done dozens of times: participating in Russia's state propaganda. I'm glad that political pressure has forced them to finally do the right thing, but interesting that they were happy to do it after the Litvinenko murder and the invasion of Ukraine and war crimes there.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 87,533
    edited March 2018
    Elliot said:

    I see McDonnell has now banned Labour MPs doing what him and Corbyn have done dozens of times: participating in Russia's state propaganda. I'm glad that political pressure has forced them to finally do the right thing, but interesting that they were happy to do it after the Litvinenko murder and the invasion of Ukraine and war crimes there.

    Jezza used to advise people to watch them as they were more objective than the MSM on various issues....it’s a view I guess.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,880
    edited March 2018
    Jonathan said:

    Where does Trump have a golf course in the region? It will be there.

    USA, UK, Ireland, UAE.

    We won’t be wanting them in the sandpit, thanks very much!
    (I live 5 miles from his course here).
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,314
    https://twitter.com/europeelects/status/972884870291709953?s=21
  • ElliotElliot Posts: 1,516
    DavidL said:

    Morris_Dancer said:

    This is some fantastic bullshit from Cable:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43364331

    A small step away from calling all Leave supporters racists, and no step at all away from saying older voters' opinions are less important than younger voters'.

    How old is Cable? Does he have a bit of a point?
    The Lib Dems stood in 2010 on a manifesto of a referendum on EU membership. Had they lost that one, would they have still opposed implementing the result?
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,891
    Mr. Elliot, they take a liberal, rather than a literal, approach to democratic decisions they dislike ;)
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