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I’ve not bet on Moggy for next CON leader because I still don’t think that he’d get to the final membership ballot round of a leadership contest. As the chart show he’s now soared on the Betfair exchange.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unmkX15AeN8
Never knowingly undersold ....
So if your mother is a Wiganer, she's telling the truth. And you should believe what your mother tells you!
Like someone out of Dickens.
I get a feeling a lot of younger people feel/felt that politicians are/were simply full of empty slogans and unable to answer simple questions, more interested in projecting image than anything else.
Probably annoys many older people as well. Maybe a reason for Mogg's popularity as well as other things we've seen over the last few years...
Obama at least tried to control guns after Sandy Hook, even though he failed. Is Trump not even going to try?
Boris has crossed into that twilight zone. There is nothing he can do. The party would be mad to pick him.
Why suddenly people agitating to the SM/CU again? This was decided last January....
Soft Brexiters, on the other hand, seem pretty pissed off at the lack of substance, and business is now giving up hope.
It was a flop.
He could easily do very well in a member's ballot, possibly even with some new entryists, so although his odds are way too short, I certainty wouldn't rule him out.
Once Brexit is done (as one currently assumes it will be by the next election) I imagine the British public will just want the whole thing over and done with and forgotten about. The idea that they will be attracted by somebody offering to repudiate/renegotiatie whatever 'deal' has been cooked up and agreed in unlikely IMO.
Can you imagine him running the country? "Drat it! We have to decide our policy on smoking in cars! Olga! Put down Decem et Octo and sort this out, Oh, and afterwards, can you ask the Pope what our policy should be on whether nappies are a devillish new invention, and we should all go back to using terry towels? And this Internet thing. Is it allowable?"
He once called state educated children potted plants. He is in no way PM material.
However, I think that we will find that the more exposure JRM gets, the better he does, at least in the short term. The thing is - he can actually (a) explain his point of view (b) clearly believes what he is saying and (c) is not unafraid to tell people the truth about choices that need to be made and explains the consequences to the public like they are grown ups, not children.
Now, what other senior Tory MP actually looks like they have any other political philosophy other than gaining themselves more power? Hammond - he was a Eurosceptic. Boris was a remainer. Rudd, Hunt - what do they honestly believe? Gove is the only one, and he killed his own chances by undermining his reputation for honesty by knifing Boris.
JRM is a very talented politician - probably the best on offer at the moment in terms of his ability to communicate his worldview. And I think normal people who do not engage with politics much are attracted to that sort of person REGARDLESS of whether they agree with their views - that is the lesson from Corbyn, not that the nation suddenly became socialist revolutionaries. The real question is whether JRM really wants to be leader.
In any event, that hardly supports the elevation of a backbencher to PM.
He was a comedian non-entity before Brexit. The only reason he has been elevated to his current prominence is because of Brexit (see also Loathsome Leadsom). And you claim he 'tells the truth about choices that need to be made'?
Can you point me to a transcript of any speech he has given on a topic outside Brexit that tackles the real issues facing the country today?
F1: here's Haas' 2018 car: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/43061441
They've been an odd team in their first two seasons. Fast at some circuits, atrocious at others. They also need to learn how to make their brakes work.
In the gossip, Billy Monger, who lost both his legs in a crash, reportedly still wants to get into F1. If he could, and be competitive, that'd be a fantastic story.
Warren is still clearly pursuing a 2020 run...
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/02/elizabeth-warren-addresses-pocahontas-controversy-in-surprise-speech.html?
... and she handles the Native American ancestry controversy quite deftly.
The older generation of Democrats don't seem to be ready to step back just yet (Biden is also particularly active at the moment).
Even Corbyn has more political ability to compromise, and campaign. Mogg has neither.
He then mentioned “that Jacob whatever his name is”. “He needs a good kicking” was the most notable observation, with the perhaps unsurprising “I definitely wouldn’t vote for the Conservatives if he was leader”. When I told him that he was favourite to be next Prime Minister, he said “you’re joking me”.
No doubt both of them do better in other households.
Much of what he has said in regard to Brexit I think is just plain wrong, and if you have a knowledge of trade agreements (even at a basic level such as I) or how customs systems work, EU law, technology - then some of what he says seems just like 'Polite misinformation'. He says it well, and probably believes it, but much of it is a bit wide of the mark.
Reopening doesn't really come into it - and would consume the entirety of the next administration were it to happen, anyway.
Note he had to apologise to Trevor Kavanagh for plagarisation. So much for his much-vaunted communication skills.
Can you imagine a JRM product endorsement ?
Which is a concern, to put it mildly.
However as long as the Tories are still competitive in the polls there will be no rush to replace May
But will non-normal people (MPs) actually back him to put him in the final 2?
I don’t think so.
I honestly think he would split the Conservative party.
The imagination, artistry and effort put into these presentations by the Samba schools seem to have no equivalent here at all. When we think the Moggster is "colourful" we are being more than a tad parochial.
(son still faffing).
Communication
Conviction
Clarity
JRM negatives:
Catholic
What he was arguing was that the National Curriculum, with its focus on passing exams, limited children’s education (ie the difference between a garden planted flower and a pot bound one). That’s an argument that has some merit - give freedom to teachers to teach - but people have ignore what he was saying to focus on one phrase
(Ps autocorrect changed “freedom” into Rees-Mogg...)
The idea that JRM appeals to anyone outside right-wing Europhobic circles is frankly based on hope rather than experience. He's been a joke in the past, someone to be laughed at rather than listened to.
Boris had the same problem, and to his credit he has used that jokey image in the past to deflect criticism. I see little to assume that JRM would have that skill. Worse, Boris has honed his image over many years in the public's eye, including eight as London Mayor. JRM has f'all time to do it.
A week or so ago I posted that I could never vote for a Conservative Party led by JRM. What should worry the JRM rampers is that several Conservative-inclined voters agreed. And not all were remainers...
(And I never said it was a qualification for PM - just that he wasn’t an empty vessel)
His biggest negative is that he talks nonsense, however fluently he does so and however much he may believe it. Just as with Johnson, he is fluent - but there is no substance there.
We are barely a year away from March 2019 and the government is still unable to talk in any level of detail or practicality about what will happen post our departure. It is an appalling dereliction of duty which will cause real harm to real businesses and people. This is what the government has to deal with - properly - and urgently. And people like Johnson and JRM are doing everything they can to make that task as difficult as possible.
Contempt is the very minimum they deserve.
It's clear the he sees himself as superior, above the plebs - the odd things is that accusation was thrown at Cameron (wrongly, IMO), but much better fits JRM. After all, only pleb dads change nappies. Don't we all have nannies?
I find JRM contemptible on many levels. He's the anti-Cameron in so many ways, which is why hes appealing to certain Conservative members. I fear they'll find that he is also the anti-Cameron when it comes to winning GE's.
I despair about politics. Brexit has consumed everything, and we're faced with May versus Corbyn or JRM versus Corbyn. The country deserves better.
If the head of the Catholic Church can come out with bullshit like that, then Mogg not being a zealot is a pro, not a con.
[I don't think he'll become leader (Mogg, not Pope Francis). It's too big a leap from the backbenches to PM].
https://www.desmog.uk/2018/02/09/these-are-climate-science-denier-mps-lobbying-hard-brexit
a) To be loaded
So it doesn't tell us much
Chill out, once we've left you'll be able to sleep at night. There really isn't such a thing as a wardrobe monster, children.
Also, even the most Warmist of warmers and Sceptical of sceptics [using terms like 'denier', which naturally bring to mind Holocaust deniers, is using pejorative language to try and stifle scientific debate] would agree on a large number of things. The good of geothermal energy, the benefits of technology being more energy efficient, the need for an increase application of trebuchets in the justice system, etc.
Quite amazing that these strict EU dictacts don’t cover something so fundamental to health.
11/12 years in from our ban it seems extremely arcane to still permit smoking in bars and restaurants.