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Who would mourn if they took all of Syria? Putin?Morris_Dancer said:Mr. kle4, also, could be indicative of Turkey spending cash on propaganda ahead of further military action/seizing territory. Be interesting to see if that's the case.
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Says the Swiss resident who describes anyone opposed to Brexit as traitors.MaxPB said:
His funding of anti-democratic organisations and his continual support for open borders in countries where he doesn't live or have tax residency.TOPPING said:
Apart from his sterling bet I don't really know all that much about him.MaxPB said:
As I said on the last thread, Soros is an arsehole, his Jewish heritage has nothing to do with it.TheScreamingEagles said:
Why is he an arsehole?
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Mr. Mark, the Kurds.0
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I'm actually still resident in the UK for tax. But sure, play the man rather than the ball.AlastairMeeks said:
Says the Swiss resident who describes anyone opposed to Brexit as traitors.MaxPB said:
His funding of anti-democratic organisations and his continual support for open borders in countries where he doesn't live or have tax residency.TOPPING said:
Apart from his sterling bet I don't really know all that much about him.MaxPB said:
As I said on the last thread, Soros is an arsehole, his Jewish heritage has nothing to do with it.TheScreamingEagles said:
Why is he an arsehole?0 -
Not as strange as the ads they were seeing!TheScreamingEagles said:
I remember when I bought my parents an iPad, they were using my login, so I kept on seeing some strange ads/suggested videos.kle4 said:I think I've just had the weirdest ad I've ever had before a youtube video (on a comedic review of a video game) - it was a 2 minute video narrated by someone with a child's voice explaining how the Turks are being betrayed by the USA by their support for the Kurds, and thus why they are right to be taking action right now.
Why produce such a video and who is it for?! Apparently the algorithms think it is for me, obviously, but it felt so strange that anyone would try such a method like youtube pre roll ads to sway opinion.0 -
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Not if the rest of the world wants to keep any semblance of nuclear non-proliferation.SandyRentool said:
Will they reach Vienna this time?williamglenn said:
Quite worrying developments are happening:kle4 said:I think I've just had the weirdest ad I've ever had before a youtube video (on a comedic review of a video game) - it was a 2 minute video narrated by someone with a child's voice explaining how the Turks are being betrayed by the USA by their support for the Kurds, and thus why they are right to be taking action right now.
Why produce such a video and who is it for?! Apparently the algorithms think it is for me, obviously, but it felt so strange that anyone would try such a method like youtube pre roll ads to sway opinion.
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You don't get to play that card after you conduct a character assassination.MaxPB said:
I'm actually still resident in the UK for tax. But sure, play the man rather than the ball.AlastairMeeks said:
Says the Swiss resident who describes anyone opposed to Brexit as traitors.MaxPB said:
His funding of anti-democratic organisations and his continual support for open borders in countries where he doesn't live or have tax residency.TOPPING said:
Apart from his sterling bet I don't really know all that much about him.MaxPB said:
As I said on the last thread, Soros is an arsehole, his Jewish heritage has nothing to do with it.TheScreamingEagles said:
Why is he an arsehole?0 -
On a cursory look they don't seem particularly virulently anti-democratic.MaxPB said:
His funding of anti-democratic organisations and his continual support for open borders in countries where he doesn't live or have tax residency.TOPPING said:
Apart from his sterling bet I don't really know all that much about him.MaxPB said:
As I said on the last thread, Soros is an arsehole, his Jewish heritage has nothing to do with it.TheScreamingEagles said:
Why is he an arsehole?
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He has clearly funded many political organisations, but which of them are 'anti-democratic' ?MaxPB said:
His funding of anti-democratic organisations and his continual support for open borders in countries where he doesn't live or have tax residency.TOPPING said:
Apart from his sterling bet I don't really know all that much about him.MaxPB said:
As I said on the last thread, Soros is an arsehole, his Jewish heritage has nothing to do with it.TheScreamingEagles said:
Why is he an arsehole?0 -
Haberdashers' Adams Grammar School, Newport, Salop?kle4 said:This may have come up, but it is true there is nothing more elite than going to Eton? It is definitely up there, but there has to be something so entitled and decadent that it eclipses even attending Eton College.
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I think it was the head of Mercedes who was expecting that within maybe 10-12 years, nobody much will own their own car.TGOHF said:
When cars go autonomous why bother owning or being fussy about the make/model ?TheScreamingEagles said:
Bar a brief fling with an Italian, for the last 18 years all my cars have been German cars.Big_G_NorthWales said:JRM re Brexit is a fantastic opportunity for Japanese car manufacturers and suggested why would you buy a Peugeot that probably wouldn't work.
He is box office
I want my German cars post Brexit.
Car ownership will be very niche.
Try selling that in rural - well rural almost anywhere actually. When your nearest town is thirty plus minutes away, how will that work?0 -
I only use YouTube to watch trailers and the occasional music video.SandyRentool said:
Not as strange as the ads they were seeing!TheScreamingEagles said:
I remember when I bought my parents an iPad, they were using my login, so I kept on seeing some strange ads/suggested videos.kle4 said:I think I've just had the weirdest ad I've ever had before a youtube video (on a comedic review of a video game) - it was a 2 minute video narrated by someone with a child's voice explaining how the Turks are being betrayed by the USA by their support for the Kurds, and thus why they are right to be taking action right now.
Why produce such a video and who is it for?! Apparently the algorithms think it is for me, obviously, but it felt so strange that anyone would try such a method like youtube pre roll ads to sway opinion.
Oh and watch the reruns of the 2015 general election.0 -
Because the world leaps to the Kurds' defence every time.....Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Mark, the Kurds.
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We'll always have the croissant.SandyRentool said:
Will they reach Vienna this time?williamglenn said:
Quite worrying developments are happening:kle4 said:I think I've just had the weirdest ad I've ever had before a youtube video (on a comedic review of a video game) - it was a 2 minute video narrated by someone with a child's voice explaining how the Turks are being betrayed by the USA by their support for the Kurds, and thus why they are right to be taking action right now.
Why produce such a video and who is it for?! Apparently the algorithms think it is for me, obviously, but it felt so strange that anyone would try such a method like youtube pre roll ads to sway opinion.
https://twitter.com/abdbozkurt/status/9615399221329633280 -
It's like will not come again for some time, so enjoy it while you can.TheScreamingEagles said:
I only use YouTube to watch trailers and the occasional music video.SandyRentool said:
Not as strange as the ads they were seeing!TheScreamingEagles said:
I remember when I bought my parents an iPad, they were using my login, so I kept on seeing some strange ads/suggested videos.kle4 said:I think I've just had the weirdest ad I've ever had before a youtube video (on a comedic review of a video game) - it was a 2 minute video narrated by someone with a child's voice explaining how the Turks are being betrayed by the USA by their support for the Kurds, and thus why they are right to be taking action right now.
Why produce such a video and who is it for?! Apparently the algorithms think it is for me, obviously, but it felt so strange that anyone would try such a method like youtube pre roll ads to sway opinion.
Oh and watch the reruns of the 2015 general election.0 -
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Attending Eton is neither entitled or decadentkle4 said:This may have come up, but it is true there is nothing more elite than going to Eton? It is definitely up there, but there has to be something so entitled and decadent that it eclipses even attending Eton College.
The School is the focal point of the OE community - it's only natural that fathers will want to send their sons there to maintain continuity*. It's not that different from someone wanting to buy a house in the village that they grew up in.
* For the record, I was 8th generation on my father's side and 6th on my mother's.0 -
I was only teasing, but that's why I did ask if there was something more elite than going to Eton. Although to be frank, speaking as someone in a county stuffed full of villages and only small towns, it is very often only elite people who can afford to buy a house in the village they grew up in.Charles said:
Attending Eton is neither entitled or decadentkle4 said:This may have come up, but it is true there is nothing more elite than going to Eton? It is definitely up there, but there has to be something so entitled and decadent that it eclipses even attending Eton College.
The School is the focal point of the OE community - it's only natural that fathers will want to send their sons there to maintain continuity*. It's not that different from someone wanting to buy a house in the village that they grew up in.
* For the record, I was 8th generation on my father's side and 6th on my mother's.0 -
Quite a few already aren't.TGOHF said:
In heavily populated areas no point in a car sitting on your drive or place of work if you can rustle one up with an app.david_herdson said:
That's still assuming that an 'autonomous car' equals 'a hired car'. I don't see the logic there. most people don't own a car so that they can drive; they own a car so that they have control over their travel space as well as where they're going.TGOHF said:
Do people insist on a German taxi/uber ? No.david_herdson said:
Same reason that people "bother owning or being fussy about the make/model" now? A car, for many, is more than just a means of transport; it is an expression of the personality they like to project (which may be distinct from the personality others perceive).TGOHF said:
When cars go autonomous why bother owning or being fussy about the make/model ?TheScreamingEagles said:
Bar a brief fling with an Italian, for the last 18 years all my cars have been German cars.Big_G_NorthWales said:JRM re Brexit is a fantastic opportunity for Japanese car manufacturers and suggested why would you buy a Peugeot that probably wouldn't work.
He is box office
I want my German cars post Brexit.
Car ownership will be very niche.
Worst thing about taxis and Ubers are the drivers - once they have gone, use will rocket.
Kids wont bother learning to drive either.0 -
He might be right for city folk though. In places like much of NYC car ownership has long been impractical and uneconomic for many.MarqueeMark said:
I think it was the head of Mercedes who was expecting that within maybe 10-12 years, nobody much will own their own car.TGOHF said:
When cars go autonomous why bother owning or being fussy about the make/model ?TheScreamingEagles said:
Bar a brief fling with an Italian, for the last 18 years all my cars have been German cars.Big_G_NorthWales said:JRM re Brexit is a fantastic opportunity for Japanese car manufacturers and suggested why would you buy a Peugeot that probably wouldn't work.
He is box office
I want my German cars post Brexit.
Car ownership will be very niche.
Try selling that in rural - well rural almost anywhere actually. When your nearest town is thirty plus minutes away, how will that work?0 -
The Grenadiers think they are...kle4 said:
I was only teasing, but that's why I did ask if there was something more elite than going to Eton. Although to be frank, speaking as someone in a county stuffed full of villages and only small towns, it is very often only elite people who can afford to buy a house in the village they grew up in.Charles said:
Attending Eton is neither entitled or decadentkle4 said:This may have come up, but it is true there is nothing more elite than going to Eton? It is definitely up there, but there has to be something so entitled and decadent that it eclipses even attending Eton College.
The School is the focal point of the OE community - it's only natural that fathers will want to send their sons there to maintain continuity*. It's not that different from someone wanting to buy a house in the village that they grew up in.
* For the record, I was 8th generation on my father's side and 6th on my mother's.0 -
Your nearest car will be a lot closer, presumably.MarqueeMark said:
I think it was the head of Mercedes who was expecting that within maybe 10-12 years, nobody much will own their own car.TGOHF said:
When cars go autonomous why bother owning or being fussy about the make/model ?TheScreamingEagles said:
Bar a brief fling with an Italian, for the last 18 years all my cars have been German cars.Big_G_NorthWales said:JRM re Brexit is a fantastic opportunity for Japanese car manufacturers and suggested why would you buy a Peugeot that probably wouldn't work.
He is box office
I want my German cars post Brexit.
Car ownership will be very niche.
Try selling that in rural - well rural almost anywhere actually. When your nearest town is thirty plus minutes away, how will that work?
Obviously autonomous vehicles will be adopted most rapidly in urban areas - somewhere like Singapore will probably beat everyone else - but as numbers rise, they ought to become more or less ubiquitous.0 -
I didn't learn to drive until I was 26. (Made up for it thereafter - and how!) Generally, I would say that not being able to drive is seen as a significant negative by employers.Nigelb said:
Quite a few already aren't.TGOHF said:
In heavily populated areas no point in a car sitting on your drive or place of work if you can rustle one up with an app.david_herdson said:
That's still assuming that an 'autonomous car' equals 'a hired car'. I don't see the logic there. most people don't own a car so that they can drive; they own a car so that they have control over their travel space as well as where they're going.TGOHF said:
Do people insist on a German taxi/uber ? No.david_herdson said:
Same reason that people "bother owning or being fussy about the make/model" now? A car, for many, is more than just a means of transport; it is an expression of the personality they like to project (which may be distinct from the personality others perceive).TGOHF said:
When cars go autonomous why bother owning or being fussy about the make/model ?TheScreamingEagles said:
Bar a brief fling with an Italian, for the last 18 years all my cars have been German cars.Big_G_NorthWales said:JRM re Brexit is a fantastic opportunity for Japanese car manufacturers and suggested why would you buy a Peugeot that probably wouldn't work.
He is box office
I want my German cars post Brexit.
Car ownership will be very niche.
Worst thing about taxis and Ubers are the drivers - once they have gone, use will rocket.
Kids wont bother learning to drive either.0 -
Mr. Mark, like a badger, you just moved the goal posts
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Charles said:
Attending Eton is neither entitled or decadentkle4 said:This may have come up, but it is true there is nothing more elite than going to Eton? It is definitely up there, but there has to be something so entitled and decadent that it eclipses even attending Eton College.
The School is the focal point of the OE community - it's only natural that fathers will want to send their sons there to maintain continuity*. It's not that different from someone wanting to buy a house in the village that they grew up in.
* For the record, I was 8th generation on my father's side and 6th on my mother's.
At £32k per child pa, that sounds like a fairly exclusive gated community.0 -
I think it's a meme rather than an actual thing.TOPPING said:
On a cursory look they don't seem particularly virulently anti-democratic.MaxPB said:
His funding of anti-democratic organisations and his continual support for open borders in countries where he doesn't live or have tax residency.TOPPING said:
Apart from his sterling bet I don't really know all that much about him.MaxPB said:
As I said on the last thread, Soros is an arsehole, his Jewish heritage has nothing to do with it.TheScreamingEagles said:
Why is he an arsehole?
discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1237
(If you except the general principle that billionaires using their money for political causes is inherently problematic in democracy.)0 -
True, but less so than it was.MarqueeMark said:
I didn't learn to drive until I was 26. (Made up for it thereafter - and how!) Generally, I would say that not being able to drive is seen as a significant negative by employers.Nigelb said:
Quite a few already aren't.TGOHF said:
In heavily populated areas no point in a car sitting on your drive or place of work if you can rustle one up with an app.david_herdson said:
That's still assuming that an 'autonomous car' equals 'a hired car'. I don't see the logic there. most people don't own a car so that they can drive; they own a car so that they have control over their travel space as well as where they're going.TGOHF said:
Do people insist on a German taxi/uber ? No.david_herdson said:
Same reason that people "bother owning or being fussy about the make/model" now? A car, for many, is more than just a means of transport; it is an expression of the personality they like to project (which may be distinct from the personality others perceive).TGOHF said:
When cars go autonomous why bother owning or being fussy about the make/model ?TheScreamingEagles said:
Bar a brief fling with an Italian, for the last 18 years all my cars have been German cars.Big_G_NorthWales said:JRM re Brexit is a fantastic opportunity for Japanese car manufacturers and suggested why would you buy a Peugeot that probably wouldn't work.
He is box office
I want my German cars post Brexit.
Car ownership will be very niche.
Worst thing about taxis and Ubers are the drivers - once they have gone, use will rocket.
Kids wont bother learning to drive either.
And for those that haven't and don't wan't to learn to drive, the autonomous vehicle will be enthusiastically welcomed. Along with those of us who like country pubs.0 -
Ah, a Next Tory Leader Market thread.
Lay the favourite...
Lay the second favourite...
Lay the third favourite...0 -
And who's to say they're not?Charles said:
The Grenadiers think they are...kle4 said:
I was only teasing, but that's why I did ask if there was something more elite than going to Eton. Although to be frank, speaking as someone in a county stuffed full of villages and only small towns, it is very often only elite people who can afford to buy a house in the village they grew up in.Charles said:
Attending Eton is neither entitled or decadentkle4 said:This may have come up, but it is true there is nothing more elite than going to Eton? It is definitely up there, but there has to be something so entitled and decadent that it eclipses even attending Eton College.
The School is the focal point of the OE community - it's only natural that fathers will want to send their sons there to maintain continuity*. It's not that different from someone wanting to buy a house in the village that they grew up in.
* For the record, I was 8th generation on my father's side and 6th on my mother's.
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Just because the betting is dominated by these does not mean the eventual winner will be one of these.
When was the last time a Tory betting favourite pre-campaign actually won?0 -
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I know and I do.kle4 said:
It's like will not come again for some time, so enjoy it while you can.TheScreamingEagles said:
I only use YouTube to watch trailers and the occasional music video.SandyRentool said:
Not as strange as the ads they were seeing!TheScreamingEagles said:
I remember when I bought my parents an iPad, they were using my login, so I kept on seeing some strange ads/suggested videos.kle4 said:I think I've just had the weirdest ad I've ever had before a youtube video (on a comedic review of a video game) - it was a 2 minute video narrated by someone with a child's voice explaining how the Turks are being betrayed by the USA by their support for the Kurds, and thus why they are right to be taking action right now.
Why produce such a video and who is it for?! Apparently the algorithms think it is for me, obviously, but it felt so strange that anyone would try such a method like youtube pre roll ads to sway opinion.
Oh and watch the reruns of the 2015 general election.
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This will come as a big surprise to the International Division at HMRC who have been challenging “loss” making UK subsidiaries of Japanese companies for decades...williamglenn said:0 -
Halycon days.TheScreamingEagles said:
I know and I do.kle4 said:
It's like will not come again for some time, so enjoy it while you can.TheScreamingEagles said:
I only use YouTube to watch trailers and the occasional music video.SandyRentool said:
Not as strange as the ads they were seeing!TheScreamingEagles said:
I remember when I bought my parents an iPad, they were using my login, so I kept on seeing some strange ads/suggested videos.kle4 said:I think I've just had the weirdest ad I've ever had before a youtube video (on a comedic review of a video game) - it was a 2 minute video narrated by someone with a child's voice explaining how the Turks are being betrayed by the USA by their support for the Kurds, and thus why they are right to be taking action right now.
Why produce such a video and who is it for?! Apparently the algorithms think it is for me, obviously, but it felt so strange that anyone would try such a method like youtube pre roll ads to sway opinion.
Oh and watch the reruns of the 2015 general election.0 -
No gates. Anyone can come to Eton.Nigelb said:Charles said:
Attending Eton is neither entitled or decadentkle4 said:This may have come up, but it is true there is nothing more elite than going to Eton? It is definitely up there, but there has to be something so entitled and decadent that it eclipses even attending Eton College.
The School is the focal point of the OE community - it's only natural that fathers will want to send their sons there to maintain continuity*. It's not that different from someone wanting to buy a house in the village that they grew up in.
* For the record, I was 8th generation on my father's side and 6th on my mother's.
At £32k per child pa, that sounds like a fairly exclusive gated community.
As for the school... 1/3 of the kids are on either full or 2/3 fees paid)0 -
I’ve been making this point for years.
A lot of them invested in the UK because Mrs T told them the UK was the gateway to the single market.
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Still awaiting the justification for your ad hominem on Soros...MaxPB said:
I'm actually still resident in the UK for tax. But sure, play the man rather than the ball.AlastairMeeks said:
Says the Swiss resident who describes anyone opposed to Brexit as traitors.MaxPB said:
His funding of anti-democratic organisations and his continual support for open borders in countries where he doesn't live or have tax residency.TOPPING said:
Apart from his sterling bet I don't really know all that much about him.MaxPB said:
As I said on the last thread, Soros is an arsehole, his Jewish heritage has nothing to do with it.TheScreamingEagles said:
Why is he an arsehole?
(Other than that you disagree with his politics.)0 -
Ask the Coldstream...TOPPING said:
And who's to say they're not?Charles said:
The Grenadiers think they are...kle4 said:
I was only teasing, but that's why I did ask if there was something more elite than going to Eton. Although to be frank, speaking as someone in a county stuffed full of villages and only small towns, it is very often only elite people who can afford to buy a house in the village they grew up in.Charles said:
Attending Eton is neither entitled or decadentkle4 said:This may have come up, but it is true there is nothing more elite than going to Eton? It is definitely up there, but there has to be something so entitled and decadent that it eclipses even attending Eton College.
The School is the focal point of the OE community - it's only natural that fathers will want to send their sons there to maintain continuity*. It's not that different from someone wanting to buy a house in the village that they grew up in.
* For the record, I was 8th generation on my father's side and 6th on my mother's.0 -
Recent newcomers to the Cabinet have got momentum and look at their best odds:Williamson 25 ,Hinds 66,Mcvey66,Hancock 100 Mordaunt 100.
In terms of attracting new people to join the Tories Estey Mcvey probably has the most scope.There are lots of right wing people who currently feel homeless.The combination of her and Phillip Davies together at the top would appeal.0 -
What seems to be suggested by recent reporting is that the assurances given by May to (for example) Nissan didn't involve anything at all like indemnities, as opposed to general assurances.TheScreamingEagles said:I’ve been making this point for years.
A lot of them invested in the UK because Mrs T told them the UK was the gateway to the single market.
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/961630008090521600
If they are faced with trade "friction" post Brexit, they could about turn on their investment plans very quickly.
There is a reason for those sharply different regional forecasts for the NE and W Midlands economies under FTA and WTO assumptions which hit the press this week.0 -
I always find when I'm in a bad mood watching the 1997 GE coverage cheers me up no end !!TheScreamingEagles said:
Oh and watch the reruns of the 2015 general election.
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Wait - so the revelation is a car manufacturer wants to make money ?RobD said:
This is sensational news - Brexit must be halted until we discover how on earth any business enterprise outside of the EU operates.
Also nevermind Brexit - Jezza will want to nationalise the factory.0 -
I'm looking forward to my nearest car being in some nearby field... The forty minute walk to it through mud will be great exercise. And wherever you are, trying to book a car one hour either side of the school run, both at the start and end of the day. That will be a doozy.Nigelb said:
Your nearest car will be a lot closer, presumably.MarqueeMark said:
I think it was the head of Mercedes who was expecting that within maybe 10-12 years, nobody much will own their own car.TGOHF said:
When cars go autonomous why bother owning or being fussy about the make/model ?TheScreamingEagles said:
Bar a brief fling with an Italian, for the last 18 years all my cars have been German cars.Big_G_NorthWales said:JRM re Brexit is a fantastic opportunity for Japanese car manufacturers and suggested why would you buy a Peugeot that probably wouldn't work.
He is box office
I want my German cars post Brexit.
Car ownership will be very niche.
Try selling that in rural - well rural almost anywhere actually. When your nearest town is thirty plus minutes away, how will that work?
Obviously autonomous vehicles will be adopted most rapidly in urban areas - somewhere like Singapore will probably beat everyone else - but as numbers rise, they ought to become more or less ubiquitous.
The one boon I see in autonomous cars is that at least they will know how to bloody reverse! Unlike three quarters of the drivers who use Devon lanes....0 -
Autonomous cars will be a massive boost for the country pub trade. Although possibly also for the angry wife trade too.Nigelb said:
True, but less so than it was.MarqueeMark said:
I didn't learn to drive until I was 26. (Made up for it thereafter - and how!) Generally, I would say that not being able to drive is seen as a significant negative by employers.Nigelb said:
Quite a few already aren't.TGOHF said:
In heavily populated areas no point in a car sitting on your drive or place of work if you can rustle one up with an app.david_herdson said:
That's still assuming that an 'autonomous car' equals 'a hired car'. I don't see the logic there. most people don't own a car so that they can drive; they own a car so that they have control over their travel space as well as where they're going.TGOHF said:
Do people insist on a German taxi/uber ? No.david_herdson said:
Same reason that people "bother owning or being fussy about the make/model" now? A car, for many, is more than just a means of transport; it is an expression of the personality they like to project (which may be distinct from the personality others perceive).TGOHF said:
When cars go autonomous why bother owning or being fussy about the make/model ?TheScreamingEagles said:
Bar a brief fling with an Italian, for the last 18 years all my cars have been German cars.Big_G_NorthWales said:JRM re Brexit is a fantastic opportunity for Japanese car manufacturers and suggested why would you buy a Peugeot that probably wouldn't work.
He is box office
I want my German cars post Brexit.
Car ownership will be very niche.
Worst thing about taxis and Ubers are the drivers - once they have gone, use will rocket.
Kids wont bother learning to drive either.
And for those that haven't and don't wan't to learn to drive, the autonomous vehicle will be enthusiastically welcomed. Along with those of us who like country pubs.0 -
So, around 60 odd pupils per year... not exactly 'anyone'.Charles said:
No gates. Anyone can come to Eton.Nigelb said:Charles said:
Attending Eton is neither entitled or decadentkle4 said:This may have come up, but it is true there is nothing more elite than going to Eton? It is definitely up there, but there has to be something so entitled and decadent that it eclipses even attending Eton College.
The School is the focal point of the OE community - it's only natural that fathers will want to send their sons there to maintain continuity*. It's not that different from someone wanting to buy a house in the village that they grew up in.
* For the record, I was 8th generation on my father's side and 6th on my mother's.
At £32k per child pa, that sounds like a fairly exclusive gated community.
As for the school... 1/3 of the kids are on either full or 2/3 fees paid)
I think 'fairly exclusive' is accurate.0 -
One of the great problems with the English public school system is that it teaches immensely privileged young men with mediocre minds that they are the elite. The country pays the price.0
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Second Regiment of Foot GuardsCharles said:
Ask the Coldstream...TOPPING said:
And who's to say they're not?Charles said:
The Grenadiers think they are...kle4 said:
I was only teasing, but that's why I did ask if there was something more elite than going to Eton. Although to be frank, speaking as someone in a county stuffed full of villages and only small towns, it is very often only elite people who can afford to buy a house in the village they grew up in.Charles said:
Attending Eton is neither entitled or decadentkle4 said:This may have come up, but it is true there is nothing more elite than going to Eton? It is definitely up there, but there has to be something so entitled and decadent that it eclipses even attending Eton College.
The School is the focal point of the OE community - it's only natural that fathers will want to send their sons there to maintain continuity*. It's not that different from someone wanting to buy a house in the village that they grew up in.
* For the record, I was 8th generation on my father's side and 6th on my mother's.0 -
My Hubris was followed by something.Pulpstar said:
Halycon days.TheScreamingEagles said:
I know and I do.kle4 said:
It's like will not come again for some time, so enjoy it while you can.TheScreamingEagles said:
I only use YouTube to watch trailers and the occasional music video.SandyRentool said:
Not as strange as the ads they were seeing!TheScreamingEagles said:
I remember when I bought my parents an iPad, they were using my login, so I kept on seeing some strange ads/suggested videos.kle4 said:I think I've just had the weirdest ad I've ever had before a youtube video (on a comedic review of a video game) - it was a 2 minute video narrated by someone with a child's voice explaining how the Turks are being betrayed by the USA by their support for the Kurds, and thus why they are right to be taking action right now.
Why produce such a video and who is it for?! Apparently the algorithms think it is for me, obviously, but it felt so strange that anyone would try such a method like youtube pre roll ads to sway opinion.
Oh and watch the reruns of the 2015 general election.
In September 2015 we had an (outlier) poll showing Remain on 70 odd %* and Labour had just elected Corbyn.
I was fully expecting Remain to win, George or another Cameroon to win the leadership, and Labour to tear themselves apart.
I thought Dave's legacy was written, he revitalised the Tories, finally sorted out the EU question, saved the Union, destroyed the Lib Dems, and driven Labour mad.
*I wasn't expecting Remain to get 70% but a decent win.0 -
Sarcasm aside, it is one of the risks. For example, JLR are building a new facility in Slovakia. In future, where will they invest to increase production or introduce new models? Castle Bromwich or Nitra?TGOHF said:
Wait - so the revelation is a car manufacturer wants to make money ?RobD said:
This is sensational news - Brexit must be halted until we discover how on earth any business enterprise outside of the EU operates.
Also nevermind Brexit - Jezza will want to nationalise the factory.0 -
kle4 said:
I think I've just had the weirdest ad I've ever had before a youtube video (on a comedic review of a video game) - it was a 2 minute video narrated by someone with a child's voice explaining how the Turks are being betrayed by the USA by their support for the Kurds, and thus why they are right to be taking action right now.
Why produce such a video and who is it for?! Apparently the algorithms think it is for me, obviously, but it felt so strange that anyone would try such a method like youtube pre roll ads to sway opinion.
I came across something similar, complete with graphic suggesting "Greater Kurdistan" was a secret US plot. Quick google showed it was a copypasta from Sputnik.
Driving Turkey away from the US and NATO is almost an inevitable Russian aim, with a thuggish leader so similar to Putin.
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There's no revelation - what is of note is that Japanese manufacturers are starting publicly to express concern about what happens in 2019. The assurances that everything will be OK are wearing a bit thin.TGOHF said:
Wait - so the revelation is a car manufacturer wants to make money ?RobD said:
This is sensational news - Brexit must be halted until we discover how on earth any business enterprise outside of the EU operates.
Also nevermind Brexit - Jezza will want to nationalise the factory.
Along with other industrial sectors, they need answers now rather than 18 months' time.
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Project Fear, or something.TheScreamingEagles said:I’ve been making this point for years.
A lot of them invested in the UK because Mrs T told them the UK was the gateway to the single market.
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/961630008090521600
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That applies to Penny Mordaunt in spades. Her back story is exceptional.Metatron said:Recent newcomers to the Cabinet have got momentum and look at their best odds:Williamson 25 ,Hinds 66,Mcvey66,Hancock 100 Mordaunt 100.
In terms of attracting new people to join the Tories Estey Mcvey probably has the most scope.There are lots of right wing people who currently feel homeless.The combination of her and Phillip Davies together at the top would appeal.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penny_Mordaunt
"She is a descendant of Philip Snowden, the first Labour Chancellor of the Exchequer. Angela Lansbury is her grandmother's cousin.
....To pay her way through sixth-form college, Mordaunt became a magician's assistant to Portsmouth magician Will Ayling, once president of The Magic Circle.
She has attributed her interest in politics to her experiences working in hospitals and orphanages of post-revolutionary Romania in her gap year, after the 1989 revolution. She graduated from the University of Reading with a BA in philosophy in 1995, becoming the first member of her family to attend university."
Plus - a great advance over the May-bot - she has a sense of humour.0 -
Mr. Eagles, Nemesis (retribution, a daughter of Nyx).
I also thought Remain would win handily (my prediction was 60/40 for a long time) but Cameron and others were complacent. There were several unforced errors.
However, it's also interesting to consider the alternative. Suppose 52% had voted Remain. We would have the same divisions as now, except that most of the political and media class would be happy, and instead of fighting a rearguard action they'd be attempting to foster unity (whether that would be through taking account of the many who dislike the EU or the "We have won, it is settled" approach).0 -
A thought about those regional economic impact assessments. For the north east to be 16% adrift on a no deal basis, would that implicitly assume that Nissan close their factory in Sunderland?0
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And she likes cockMarqueeMark said:
That applies to Penny Mordaunt in spades. Her back story is exceptional.Metatron said:Recent newcomers to the Cabinet have got momentum and look at their best odds:Williamson 25 ,Hinds 66,Mcvey66,Hancock 100 Mordaunt 100.
In terms of attracting new people to join the Tories Estey Mcvey probably has the most scope.There are lots of right wing people who currently feel homeless.The combination of her and Phillip Davies together at the top would appeal.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penny_Mordaunt
"She is a descendant of Philip Snowden, the first Labour Chancellor of the Exchequer. Angela Lansbury is her grandmother's cousin.
....To pay her way through sixth-form college, Mordaunt became a magician's assistant to Portsmouth magician Will Ayling, once president of The Magic Circle.
She has attributed her interest in politics to her experiences working in hospitals and orphanages of post-revolutionary Romania in her gap year, after the 1989 revolution. She graduated from the University of Reading with a BA in philosophy in 1995, becoming the first member of her family to attend university."
Plus - a great advance over the May-bot - she has a sense of humour.
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That Will Ayling anecdote is apt as one description of Penny involves the phrase Wizard's Sleeve.MarqueeMark said:
That applies to Penny Mordaunt in spades. Her back story is exceptional.Metatron said:Recent newcomers to the Cabinet have got momentum and look at their best odds:Williamson 25 ,Hinds 66,Mcvey66,Hancock 100 Mordaunt 100.
In terms of attracting new people to join the Tories Estey Mcvey probably has the most scope.There are lots of right wing people who currently feel homeless.The combination of her and Phillip Davies together at the top would appeal.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penny_Mordaunt
"She is a descendant of Philip Snowden, the first Labour Chancellor of the Exchequer. Angela Lansbury is her grandmother's cousin.
....To pay her way through sixth-form college, Mordaunt became a magician's assistant to Portsmouth magician Will Ayling, once president of The Magic Circle.
She has attributed her interest in politics to her experiences working in hospitals and orphanages of post-revolutionary Romania in her gap year, after the 1989 revolution. She graduated from the University of Reading with a BA in philosophy in 1995, becoming the first member of her family to attend university."
Plus - a great advance over the May-bot - she has a sense of humour.0 -
Popbitch has a great Moggster story. File under "tenuous, but unhelpful...."0
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Shame she is an unblushing but obvious liar.MarqueeMark said:
That applies to Penny Mordaunt in spades. Her back story is exceptional.Metatron said:Recent newcomers to the Cabinet have got momentum and look at their best odds:Williamson 25 ,Hinds 66,Mcvey66,Hancock 100 Mordaunt 100.
In terms of attracting new people to join the Tories Estey Mcvey probably has the most scope.There are lots of right wing people who currently feel homeless.The combination of her and Phillip Davies together at the top would appeal.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penny_Mordaunt
"She is a descendant of Philip Snowden, the first Labour Chancellor of the Exchequer. Angela Lansbury is her grandmother's cousin.
....To pay her way through sixth-form college, Mordaunt became a magician's assistant to Portsmouth magician Will Ayling, once president of The Magic Circle.
She has attributed her interest in politics to her experiences working in hospitals and orphanages of post-revolutionary Romania in her gap year, after the 1989 revolution. She graduated from the University of Reading with a BA in philosophy in 1995, becoming the first member of her family to attend university."
Plus - a great advance over the May-bot - she has a sense of humour.0 -
Pretty much what I read, which knocks into the supply chain and resultant business in the region.AlastairMeeks said:A thought about those regional economic impact assessments. For the north east to be 16% adrift on a no deal basis, would that implicitly assume that Nissan close their factory in Sunderland?
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" A new dawn has broken has it not ? "stodge said:
I always find when I'm in a bad mood watching the 1997 GE coverage cheers me up no end !!TheScreamingEagles said:
Oh and watch the reruns of the 2015 general election.0 -
I'm surprised no one has FOI'd what Theresa May promised Nissan.0
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Done properly, it could greatly reduce the total number of vehicles on such runs.MarqueeMark said:
I'm looking forward to my nearest car being in some nearby field... The forty minute walk to it through mud will be great exercise. And wherever you are, trying to book a car one hour either side of the school run, both at the start and end of the day. That will be a doozy....Nigelb said:
Your nearest car will be a lot closer, presumably.MarqueeMark said:
I think it was the head of Mercedes who was expecting that within maybe 10-12 years, nobody much will own their own car.TGOHF said:
When cars go autonomous why bother owning or being fussy about the make/model ?TheScreamingEagles said:
Bar a brief fling with an Italian, for the last 18 years all my cars have been German cars.Big_G_NorthWales said:JRM re Brexit is a fantastic opportunity for Japanese car manufacturers and suggested why would you buy a Peugeot that probably wouldn't work.
He is box office
I want my German cars post Brexit.
Car ownership will be very niche.
Try selling that in rural - well rural almost anywhere actually. When your nearest town is thirty plus minutes away, how will that work?
Obviously autonomous vehicles will be adopted most rapidly in urban areas - somewhere like Singapore will probably beat everyone else - but as numbers rise, they ought to become more or less ubiquitous.0 -
"commercial confidentiality" - the first refuge of the incompetent.TheScreamingEagles said:I'm surprised no one has FOI'd what Theresa May promised Nissan.
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Not 2005?stodge said:
I always find when I'm in a bad mood watching the 1997 GE coverage cheers me up no end !!TheScreamingEagles said:
Oh and watch the reruns of the 2015 general election.0 -
That merely tells us that the UK government is fully aware of the consequences of a No Deal Brexit. And the EU27 know it, too. If the Nissan factory does close, where will the kind of sustainable, well-paid jobs that keep communities together come from to replace them? Is the government planning for it, just in case?AlastairMeeks said:A thought about those regional economic impact assessments. For the north east to be 16% adrift on a no deal basis, would that implicitly assume that Nissan close their factory in Sunderland?
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£2.5m each year from King Henry's will plus the generosity of the community.Nigelb said:
So, around 60 odd pupils per year... not exactly 'anyone'.Charles said:
No gates. Anyone can come to Eton.Nigelb said:Charles said:
Attending Eton is neither entitled or decadentkle4 said:This may have come up, but it is true there is nothing more elite than going to Eton? It is definitely up there, but there has to be something so entitled and decadent that it eclipses even attending Eton College.
The School is the focal point of the OE community - it's only natural that fathers will want to send their sons there to maintain continuity*. It's not that different from someone wanting to buy a house in the village that they grew up in.
* For the record, I was 8th generation on my father's side and 6th on my mother's.
At £32k per child pa, that sounds like a fairly exclusive gated community.
As for the school... 1/3 of the kids are on either full or 2/3 fees paid)
I think 'fairly exclusive' is accurate.
Funds 75 boys - 14 in College (King Henry pays for them), plus music scholars, American scholars and bursaries0 -
£2.5m each year from King Henry's will plus the generosity of the community.Nigelb said:
So, around 60 odd pupils per year... not exactly 'anyone'.Charles said:
No gates. Anyone can come to Eton.Nigelb said:Charles said:
Attending Eton is neither entitled or decadentkle4 said:This may have come up, but it is true there is nothing more elite than going to Eton? It is definitely up there, but there has to be something so entitled and decadent that it eclipses even attending Eton College.
The School is the focal point of the OE community - it's only natural that fathers will want to send their sons there to maintain continuity*. It's not that different from someone wanting to buy a house in the village that they grew up in.
* For the record, I was 8th generation on my father's side and 6th on my mother's.
At £32k per child pa, that sounds like a fairly exclusive gated community.
As for the school... 1/3 of the kids are on either full or 2/3 fees paid)
I think 'fairly exclusive' is accurate.
Funds 75 boys - 14 in College (King Henry pays for them), plus music scholars, American scholars and bursaries0 -
And where are Airbus going to develop and build their next generation of wings ?John_M said:
Sarcasm aside, it is one of the risks. For example, JLR are building a new facility in Slovakia. In future, where will they invest to increase production or introduce new models? Castle Bromwich or Nitra?TGOHF said:
Wait - so the revelation is a car manufacturer wants to make money ?RobD said:
This is sensational news - Brexit must be halted until we discover how on earth any business enterprise outside of the EU operates.
Also nevermind Brexit - Jezza will want to nationalise the factory.
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I love you too, @SouthamObserver !SouthamObserver said:One of the great problems with the English public school system is that it teaches immensely privileged young men with mediocre minds that they are the elite. The country pays the price.
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Nulli SecundusTOPPING said:
Second Regiment of Foot GuardsCharles said:
Ask the Coldstream...TOPPING said:
And who's to say they're not?Charles said:
The Grenadiers think they are...kle4 said:
I was only teasing, but that's why I did ask if there was something more elite than going to Eton. Although to be frank, speaking as someone in a county stuffed full of villages and only small towns, it is very often only elite people who can afford to buy a house in the village they grew up in.Charles said:
Attending Eton is neither entitled or decadentkle4 said:This may have come up, but it is true there is nothing more elite than going to Eton? It is definitely up there, but there has to be something so entitled and decadent that it eclipses even attending Eton College.
The School is the focal point of the OE community - it's only natural that fathers will want to send their sons there to maintain continuity*. It's not that different from someone wanting to buy a house in the village that they grew up in.
* For the record, I was 8th generation on my father's side and 6th on my mother's.0 -
A pound to a penny says it won't.Nigelb said:
Done properly, it could greatly reduce the total number of vehicles on such runs.MarqueeMark said:
I'm looking forward to my nearest car being in some nearby field... The forty minute walk to it through mud will be great exercise. And wherever you are, trying to book a car one hour either side of the school run, both at the start and end of the day. That will be a doozy....Nigelb said:
Your nearest car will be a lot closer, presumably.MarqueeMark said:
I think it was the head of Mercedes who was expecting that within maybe 10-12 years, nobody much will own their own car.TGOHF said:
When cars go autonomous why bother owning or being fussy about the make/model ?TheScreamingEagles said:
Bar a brief fling with an Italian, for the last 18 years all my cars have been German cars.Big_G_NorthWales said:JRM re Brexit is a fantastic opportunity for Japanese car manufacturers and suggested why would you buy a Peugeot that probably wouldn't work.
He is box office
I want my German cars post Brexit.
Car ownership will be very niche.
Try selling that in rural - well rural almost anywhere actually. When your nearest town is thirty plus minutes away, how will that work?
Obviously autonomous vehicles will be adopted most rapidly in urban areas - somewhere like Singapore will probably beat everyone else - but as numbers rise, they ought to become more or less ubiquitous.0 -
Charles, I have nothing against Eton - it's clearly an excellent educational institution, however many of its full fee paying students might or might not be overprivileged tits - but to claim that it is some egalitarian exemplar is just not convincing.Charles said:
£2.5m each year from King Henry's will plus the generosity of the community.Nigelb said:
So, around 60 odd pupils per year... not exactly 'anyone'.Charles said:
No gates. Anyone can come to Eton.Nigelb said:Charles said:
Attending Eton is neither entitled or decadentkle4 said:This may have come up, but it is true there is nothing more elite than going to Eton? It is definitely up there, but there has to be something so entitled and decadent that it eclipses even attending Eton College.
The School is the focal point of the OE community - it's only natural that fathers will want to send their sons there to maintain continuity*. It's not that different from someone wanting to buy a house in the village that they grew up in.
* For the record, I was 8th generation on my father's side and 6th on my mother's.
At £32k per child pa, that sounds like a fairly exclusive gated community.
As for the school... 1/3 of the kids are on either full or 2/3 fees paid)
I think 'fairly exclusive' is accurate.
Funds 75 boys - 14 in College (King Henry pays for them), plus music scholars, American scholars and bursaries
Even if you do so twice.
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I was thinking the Moggster, Daniel Hannan, Seamas Milne and various other prominent Brexit loons. Have you caused harm to the country?Charles said:
I love you too, @SouthamObserver !SouthamObserver said:One of the great problems with the English public school system is that it teaches immensely privileged young men with mediocre minds that they are the elite. The country pays the price.
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I disagree, had Remain won 52% then things like using EU citizens as bargaining chips wouldn't have happened which have poisoned the debate.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, Nemesis (retribution, a daughter of Nyx).
I also thought Remain would win handily (my prediction was 60/40 for a long time) but Cameron and others were complacent. There were several unforced errors.
However, it's also interesting to consider the alternative. Suppose 52% had voted Remain. We would have the same divisions as now, except that most of the political and media class would be happy, and instead of fighting a rearguard action they'd be attempting to foster unity (whether that would be through taking account of the many who dislike the EU or the "We have won, it is settled" approach).0 -
Market pricing says that it absolutely will.MarqueeMark said:
A pound to a penny says it won't.Nigelb said:
Done properly, it could greatly reduce the total number of vehicles on such runs.MarqueeMark said:
I'm looking forward to my nearest car being in some nearby field... The forty minute walk to it through mud will be great exercise. And wherever you are, trying to book a car one hour either side of the school run, both at the start and end of the day. That will be a doozy....Nigelb said:
Your nearest car will be a lot closer, presumably.MarqueeMark said:
I think it was the head of Mercedes who was expecting that within maybe 10-12 years, nobody much will own their own car.TGOHF said:
When cars go autonomous why bother owning or being fussy about the make/model ?TheScreamingEagles said:
Bar a brief fling with an Italian, for the last 18 years all my cars have been German cars.Big_G_NorthWales said:JRM re Brexit is a fantastic opportunity for Japanese car manufacturers and suggested why would you buy a Peugeot that probably wouldn't work.
He is box office
I want my German cars post Brexit.
Car ownership will be very niche.
Try selling that in rural - well rural almost anywhere actually. When your nearest town is thirty plus minutes away, how will that work?
Obviously autonomous vehicles will be adopted most rapidly in urban areas - somewhere like Singapore will probably beat everyone else - but as numbers rise, they ought to become more or less ubiquitous.0 -
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@iainaitch: Dear working class people. Please apply.
https://twitter.com/helenpidd/status/9611648112278118400 -
On Nissan in Sunderland - they’ve said they would review when final arrangements are known.
That could be a good while yet.0 -
What, today? Presumably not, but there's a few hours left for him.SouthamObserver said:
I was thinking the Moggster, Daniel Hannan, Seamas Milne and various other prominent Brexit loons. Have you caused harm to the country?Charles said:
I love you too, @SouthamObserver !SouthamObserver said:One of the great problems with the English public school system is that it teaches immensely privileged young men with mediocre minds that they are the elite. The country pays the price.
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They shouldn't have picked the wrong side, should they now.Charles said:
Nulli SecundusTOPPING said:
Second Regiment of Foot GuardsCharles said:
Ask the Coldstream...TOPPING said:
And who's to say they're not?Charles said:
The Grenadiers think they are...kle4 said:
I was only teasing, but that's why I did ask if there was something more elite than going to Eton. Although to be frank, speaking as someone in a county stuffed full of villages and only small towns, it is very often only elite people who can afford to buy a house in the village they grew up in.Charles said:
Attending Eton is neither entitled or decadentkle4 said:This may have come up, but it is true there is nothing more elite than going to Eton? It is definitely up there, but there has to be something so entitled and decadent that it eclipses even attending Eton College.
The School is the focal point of the OE community - it's only natural that fathers will want to send their sons there to maintain continuity*. It's not that different from someone wanting to buy a house in the village that they grew up in.
* For the record, I was 8th generation on my father's side and 6th on my mother's.0 -
I dont think people are much bothered what school their politicians went to. Although they might be a bit worried that Jeremy Corbyn gives every impression of not having been to school at all.0
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In more uplifting news, Bethe strings have been observed experimentally:
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On topic, a relatively new phenomenon is the Hilton, Osbourne (sic), Kardashian thing of regarding the very rich as people to celebrate and study in a spirit of admiration rather than envy. Etonianhood is not merely detoxified but turned into a positive benefit. Who won't be watching The Rees Moggs on Sky Atlantic?0
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They didn't though did they? They just started on the wrong side, but picked the right one later. Good old George Monck started on the right side, then the wrong, then right again of course.TOPPING said:
They shouldn't have picked the wrong side, should they now.Charles said:
Nulli SecundusTOPPING said:
Second Regiment of Foot GuardsCharles said:
Ask the Coldstream...TOPPING said:
And who's to say they're not?Charles said:
The Grenadiers think they are...kle4 said:
I was only teasing, but that's why I did ask if there was something more elite than going to Eton. Although to be frank, speaking as someone in a county stuffed full of villages and only small towns, it is very often only elite people who can afford to buy a house in the village they grew up in.Charles said:
Attending Eton is neither entitled or decadentkle4 said:This may have come up, but it is true there is nothing more elite than going to Eton? It is definitely up there, but there has to be something so entitled and decadent that it eclipses even attending Eton College.
The School is the focal point of the OE community - it's only natural that fathers will want to send their sons there to maintain continuity*. It's not that different from someone wanting to buy a house in the village that they grew up in.
* For the record, I was 8th generation on my father's side and 6th on my mother's.0 -
Mr. Eagles, surprised you're citing Merkel's intransigence, but fair enough.
We would, however, have had EU-phile types such as Adonis pushing for closer integration, and matters such as the EU Army would have been rather more live. Plus, every time a QMV decision went against us, there'd be a large section of the electorate feeling unsure if they voted the right way when backing Remain, or vindicated having backed Leave.
The media would be working hard to paper over cracks, though. I doubt we would have suffered a 0.1% spike in inflation.0 -
We can go on in this vein, naturally. However, we still don't know what Brexit looks like in practice.Nigelb said:
And where are Airbus going to develop and build their next generation of wings ?John_M said:
Sarcasm aside, it is one of the risks. For example, JLR are building a new facility in Slovakia. In future, where will they invest to increase production or introduce new models? Castle Bromwich or Nitra?TGOHF said:
Wait - so the revelation is a car manufacturer wants to make money ?RobD said:
This is sensational news - Brexit must be halted until we discover how on earth any business enterprise outside of the EU operates.
Also nevermind Brexit - Jezza will want to nationalise the factory.
I just dislike anyone (including 'my' side) handwaving away serious challenges to overcome in preserving integrated automotive supply chains (which often involve multiple trips back and forth across the channel).0 -
No one can say that they weren't warned in the NE and elsewhere.SouthamObserver said:
That merely tells us that the UK government is fully aware of the consequences of a No Deal Brexit. And the EU27 know it, too. If the Nissan factory does close, where will the kind of sustainable, well-paid jobs that keep communities together come from to replace them? Is the government planning for it, just in case?AlastairMeeks said:A thought about those regional economic impact assessments. For the north east to be 16% adrift on a no deal basis, would that implicitly assume that Nissan close their factory in Sunderland?
Brexit means Brexit. If factories close then I am sure that they will shrug it off as a price well worth paying.0 -
Indeed but they were a crucial six years...kle4 said:
They didn't though did they? They just started on the wrong side, but picked the right one later. Good old George Monck started on the right side, then the wrong, then right again of course.TOPPING said:
They shouldn't have picked the wrong side, should they now.Charles said:
Nulli SecundusTOPPING said:
Second Regiment of Foot GuardsCharles said:
Ask the Coldstream...TOPPING said:
And who's to say they're not?Charles said:
The Grenadiers think they are...kle4 said:
I was only teasing, but that's why I did ask if there was something more elite than going to Eton. Although to be frank, speaking as someone in a county stuffed full of villages and only small towns, it is very often only elite people who can afford to buy a house in the village they grew up in.Charles said:
Attending Eton is neither entitled or decadentkle4 said:This may have come up, but it is true there is nothing more elite than going to Eton? It is definitely up there, but there has to be something so entitled and decadent that it eclipses even attending Eton College.
The School is the focal point of the OE community - it's only natural that fathers will want to send their sons there to maintain continuity*. It's not that different from someone wanting to buy a house in the village that they grew up in.
* For the record, I was 8th generation on my father's side and 6th on my mother's.0 -
One of my cousins invented the null reference. Does that count?SouthamObserver said:
I was thinking the Moggster, Daniel Hannan, Seamas Milne and various other prominent Brexit loons. Have you caused harm to the country?Charles said:
I love you too, @SouthamObserver !SouthamObserver said:One of the great problems with the English public school system is that it teaches immensely privileged young men with mediocre minds that they are the elite. The country pays the price.
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Well that's a relief, it's been weighing on me.Nigelb said:In more uplifting news, Bethe strings have been observed experimentally:
https://www.nature.com/articles/nature25466
Here we use high-resolution terahertz spectroscopy to resolve string states in the antiferromagnetic Heisenberg–Ising chain SrCo2V2O8 in strong longitudinal magnetic fields
I might need some help unpicking that sentence, but I assume this is indeed big news, and good for them.
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The analysis would have come to that conclusion because the North East has a trade surplus with the EU I'd have thought (And areas with a surplus are likely to be worst hit ?)AlastairMeeks said:A thought about those regional economic impact assessments. For the north east to be 16% adrift on a no deal basis, would that implicitly assume that Nissan close their factory in Sunderland?
The Nissan plant probably plays a big role in this of course.0 -
Trick in a civil war is to fight for both sidesTOPPING said:
They shouldn't have picked the wrong side, should they now.Charles said:
Nulli SecundusTOPPING said:
Second Regiment of Foot GuardsCharles said:
Ask the Coldstream...TOPPING said:
And who's to say they're not?Charles said:
The Grenadiers think they are...kle4 said:
I was only teasing, but that's why I did ask if there was something more elite than going to Eton. Although to be frank, speaking as someone in a county stuffed full of villages and only small towns, it is very often only elite people who can afford to buy a house in the village they grew up in.Charles said:
Attending Eton is neither entitled or decadentkle4 said:This may have come up, but it is true there is nothing more elite than going to Eton? It is definitely up there, but there has to be something so entitled and decadent that it eclipses even attending Eton College.
The School is the focal point of the OE community - it's only natural that fathers will want to send their sons there to maintain continuity*. It's not that different from someone wanting to buy a house in the village that they grew up in.
* For the record, I was 8th generation on my father's side and 6th on my mother's.0 -
It is Mrs May's intransigence.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, surprised you're citing Merkel's intransigence, but fair enough.
We would, however, have had EU-phile types such as Adonis pushing for closer integration, and matters such as the EU Army would have been rather more live. Plus, every time a QMV decision went against us, there'd be a large section of the electorate feeling unsure if they voted the right way when backing Remain, or vindicated having backed Leave.
The media would be working hard to paper over cracks, though. I doubt we would have suffered a 0.1% spike in inflation.
The EU Army would be a non starter, we had a veto on it.0 -
I don't think it's massive news in the physics community, but it is kind of cool.kle4 said:
Well that's a relief, it's been weighing on me.Nigelb said:In more uplifting news, Bethe strings have been observed experimentally:
https://www.nature.com/articles/nature25466
Here we use high-resolution terahertz spectroscopy to resolve string states in the antiferromagnetic Heisenberg–Ising chain SrCo2V2O8 in strong longitudinal magnetic fields
I might need some help unpicking that sentence, but I assume this is indeed big news, and good for them.0 -
Campaign for hard Brexit, reject soft Brexit and then back Remain.Charles said:Trick in a civil war is to fight for both sides
It's a race between BoJo and ReMo...0
