A thought about those regional economic impact assessments. For the north east to be 16% adrift on a no deal basis, would that implicitly assume that Nissan close their factory in Sunderland?
That merely tells us that the UK government is fully aware of the consequences of a No Deal Brexit. And the EU27 know it, too. If the Nissan factory does close, where will the kind of sustainable, well-paid jobs that keep communities together come from to replace them? Is the government planning for it, just in case?
No one can say that they weren't warned in the NE and elsewhere.
Brexit means Brexit. If factories close then I am sure that they will shrug it off as a price well worth paying.
Very true , they will love eating well on principles.
This may have come up, but it is true there is nothing more elite than going to Eton? It is definitely up there, but there has to be something so entitled and decadent that it eclipses even attending Eton College.
Attending Eton is neither entitled or decadent
The School is the focal point of the OE community - it's only natural that fathers will want to send their sons there to maintain continuity*. It's not that different from someone wanting to buy a house in the village that they grew up in.
* For the record, I was 8th generation on my father's side and 6th on my mother's.
I was only teasing, but that's why I did ask if there was something more elite than going to Eton. Although to be frank, speaking as someone in a county stuffed full of villages and only small towns, it is very often only elite people who can afford to buy a house in the village they grew up in.
The Grenadiers think they are...
And who's to say they're not?
Ask the Coldstream...
Second Regiment of Foot Guards
Nulli Secundus
They shouldn't have picked the wrong side, should they now.
Trick in a civil war is to fight for both sides
Nah, the trick in a civil war is to sell weapon to both sides.
Mr. Eagles, surprised you're citing Merkel's intransigence, but fair enough.
We would, however, have had EU-phile types such as Adonis pushing for closer integration, and matters such as the EU Army would have been rather more live. Plus, every time a QMV decision went against us, there'd be a large section of the electorate feeling unsure if they voted the right way when backing Remain, or vindicated having backed Leave.
The media would be working hard to paper over cracks, though. I doubt we would have suffered a 0.1% spike in inflation.
It is Mrs May's intransigence.
The EU Army would be a non starter, we had a veto on it.
We used to have veto over many other things, but they disappeared. QMV for an EU army was only a matter of time.
Wait - so the revelation is a car manufacturer wants to make money ?
This is sensational news - Brexit must be halted until we discover how on earth any business enterprise outside of the EU operates.
Also nevermind Brexit - Jezza will want to nationalise the factory.
Sarcasm aside, it is one of the risks. For example, JLR are building a new facility in Slovakia. In future, where will they invest to increase production or introduce new models? Castle Bromwich or Nitra?
I'm amused that in a post May world, people are worried that a government led by Gove, Boris and the Moggster isn't going to be business friendly enough.
In the unlikely even we get hit by tarriffs then we slash other business costs - taxes, rates etc.
Mr. Eagles, surprised you're citing Merkel's intransigence, but fair enough.
We would, however, have had EU-phile types such as Adonis pushing for closer integration, and matters such as the EU Army would have been rather more live. Plus, every time a QMV decision went against us, there'd be a large section of the electorate feeling unsure if they voted the right way when backing Remain, or vindicated having backed Leave.
The media would be working hard to paper over cracks, though. I doubt we would have suffered a 0.1% spike in inflation.
It is Mrs May's intransigence.
The EU Army would be a non starter, we had a veto on it.
We used to have veto over many other things, but they disappeared. QMV for an EU army was only a matter of time.
One of the great problems with the English public school system is that it teaches immensely privileged young men with mediocre minds that they are the elite. The country pays the price.
Wait - so the revelation is a car manufacturer wants to make money ?
This is sensational news - Brexit must be halted until we discover how on earth any business enterprise outside of the EU operates.
Also nevermind Brexit - Jezza will want to nationalise the factory.
Sarcasm aside, it is one of the risks. For example, JLR are building a new facility in Slovakia. In future, where will they invest to increase production or introduce new models? Castle Bromwich or Nitra?
I'm amused that in a post May world, people are worried that a government led by Gove, Boris and the Moggster isn't going to be business friendly enough.
In the unlikely even we get hit by tarriffs then we slash other business costs - taxes, rates etc.
The thing is, if Sunderland Central was ever going to become a Tory marginal it was at GE2017. It didn't and won't be, so it won't be as high on the Tory calculation list as it could have been...
This may have come up, but it is true there is nothing more elite than going to Eton? It is definitely up there, but there has to be something so entitled and decadent that it eclipses even attending Eton College.
Attending Eton is neither entitled or decadent
The School is the focal point of the OE community - it's only natural that fathers will want to send their sons there to maintain continuity*. It's not that different from someone wanting to buy a house in the village that they grew up in.
* For the record, I was 8th generation on my father's side and 6th on my mother's.
I was only teasing, but that's why I did ask if there was something more elite than going to Eton. Although to be frank, speaking as someone in a county stuffed full of villages and only small towns, it is very often only elite people who can afford to buy a house in the village they grew up in.
The Grenadiers think they are...
And who's to say they're not?
Ask the Coldstream...
Second Regiment of Foot Guards
Nulli Secundus
They shouldn't have picked the wrong side, should they now.
Trick in a civil war is to fight for both sides
Nah, the trick in a civil war is to sell weapon to both sides.
We still have some cotton bonds on a wall somewhere...
One of the great problems with the English public school system is that it teaches immensely privileged young men with mediocre minds that they are the elite. The country pays the price.
This may have come up, but it is true there is nothing more elite than going to Eton? It is definitely up there, but there has to be something so entitled and decadent that it eclipses even attending Eton College.
Attending Eton is neither entitled or decadent
The School is the focal point of the OE community - it's only natural that fathers will want to send their sons there to maintain continuity*. It's not that different from someone wanting to buy a house in the village that they grew up in.
* For the record, I was 8th generation on my father's side and 6th on my mother's.
I was only teasing, but that's why I did ask if there was something more elite than going to Eton. Although to be frank, speaking as someone in a county stuffed full of villages and only small towns, it is very often only elite people who can afford to buy a house in the village they grew up in.
The Grenadiers think they are...
And who's to say they're not?
Ask the Coldstream...
Second Regiment of Foot Guards
Nulli Secundus
They shouldn't have picked the wrong side, should they now.
Trick in a civil war is to fight for both sides
Nah, the trick in a civil war is to sell weapon to both sides.
If my great-great-grandfather hadn't picked the wrong side in the 1920s...
One of the great problems with the English public school system is that it teaches immensely privileged young men with mediocre minds that they are the elite. The country pays the price.
One of the great problems with the English public school system is that it teaches immensely privileged young men with mediocre minds that they are the elite. The country pays the price.
One of the great problems with the English public school system is that it teaches immensely privileged young men with mediocre minds that they are the elite. The country pays the price.
One of the great problems with the English public school system is that it teaches immensely privileged young men with mediocre minds that they are the elite. The country pays the price.
I dont think people are much bothered what school their politicians went to. Although they might be a bit worried that Jeremy Corbyn gives every impression of not having been to school at all.
Of course he did. How else could he have got two E's?
I dont think people are much bothered what school their politicians went to. Although they might be a bit worried that Jeremy Corbyn gives every impression of not having been to school at all.
Of course he did. How else could he have got two E's?
Re the Tory poll lead in YouGov, I think my view is going to be fairly unpopular but I wouldn’t read too much into it. We’ve gone from the Tories having a 20+ lead, to a hung parliament, a Labour lead of up to 8, and now a Tory lead of 4 in less than a year. After the last two GEs, and the surprises they both bought, the one thing I’ve learned is not to take polls so literally. I remember when Remain led by double digits in polls shortly after the 2015 GE. So many misplaced narratives have emerged from polling in these last few years.
The one thing I will say is that I think those hoping for a New Labour style Labour Party will be kept waiting, irregardless of how Labour do in 2022. I think that even though they wouldn’t vote for it, many on the centre right want there to be a Labour Party that accepts/embraces some Conservative ideas and I don’t see that happening anytime soon.
I’d like a Labour Party which didn’t have the issues it does with anti-Semitism, nor Seamus Milne associated with it, nor McDonnell as Shadow Chancellor. But I wouldn’t want to see Labour mimic Tory positions on immigration, the economy, welfare, and public services. I understand why Corbyn’s taking the position he is on Brexit, even though my own views are closer to the likes of Ian Dunt.
A thought about those regional economic impact assessments. For the north east to be 16% adrift on a no deal basis, would that implicitly assume that Nissan close their factory in Sunderland?
That merely tells us that the UK government is fully aware of the consequences of a No Deal Brexit. And the EU27 know it, too. If the Nissan factory does close, where will the kind of sustainable, well-paid jobs that keep communities together come from to replace them? Is the government planning for it, just in case?
No one can say that they weren't warned in the NE and elsewhere.
Brexit means Brexit. If factories close then I am sure that they will shrug it off as a price well worth paying.
Very true , they will love eating well on principles.
Looking at stats, NE growth for 97-15 was 87%, which includes a fair range of economic conditions to say the least.
So let's say 70% growth over 15 years is an approx benchmark. The 16% reduction is a 16% reduction of what?
16% of the growth lost: 70% growth -> 59% growth 16 points of growth lost -> 54% growth 16% lower GDP in 15 years -> 43% growth
I suspect the middle one.
Of course as a high debt, post crash economy, you could be factoring lower underlying regional growth. 2.5% per year would be around a 45% start point, then the calcs look very different.
On some of these numbers WTO could be argued as a political decision, on others the growth performance turns the NE into Italy.
One of the great problems with the English public school system is that it teaches immensely privileged young men with mediocre minds that they are the elite. The country pays the price.
"The source accused Brussels of deliberately stalling negotiations in a bid to reduce negotiating time and increase pressure on Britain. "They're playing games," the source said.
Mr Davis told Sky News: "I do not think it was in good faith to publish a document with frankly discourteous language and actually implying that they could arbitrarily terminate in effect the implementation period.
"That's not what the aim of this exercise is, it's not in good faith and we think it was unwise to publish it.""
I am sure that is for real, but it loses impact by looking like the world's worst photoshop.
They both appeared on Andrew Marr together in 2010. I think it was the same morning that Marr showed his #BBCbias by spilling a jug of milk all over Mrs May's clothes:
Re May, and the recent schengians with Tory MPs allegedly not being too happy with her: I have no idea why there is this rush to replace her. It’s hardly as if the alternatives are that great - there’s certainly no guarantee they’d be doing better than May. And for all her flaws, she’s certainly a much better option for the Tory party and the country than Boris or JRM. I still feel quite neutral towards May myself, although I would say I’m more sceptical about her political abilities than I was when she first became Tory leader, then I actually thought she’d be quite good.
How did Theresa go from the nice, smiling person with Alice Cooper to the crazed, unhinged "Crush The Saboteurs" Theresa on the front of the Daily Rant?
The Guardian : "Nowhere does the Telegraph say that Soros is Jewish. But to a particular audience – to those whose antennae are attuned to the high-frequency signal – it goes without saying. "
The Guardian : "Nowhere does the Telegraph say that Soros is Jewish. But to a particular audience – to those whose antennae are attuned to the high-frequency signal – it goes without saying. "
The Guardian : "Nowhere does the Telegraph say that Soros is Jewish. But to a particular audience – to those whose antennae are attuned to the high-frequency signal – it goes without saying. "
Incredible.
I didn't know Soros was Jewish until I read it on here this morning TBH,
...shows nothing very much, though compared with the last GMS poll it does give a further Green boost. As the agrement is short on green promises, that does make sense.
I have to say, I'm perplexed by Mark Carney's comments on interest rates. Inflation is falling, any now they want to up rates? Monetary policy has been very confused since 2012.
The Guardian : "Nowhere does the Telegraph say that Soros is Jewish. But to a particular audience – to those whose antennae are attuned to the high-frequency signal – it goes without saying. "
Re May, and the recent schengians with Tory MPs allegedly not being too happy with her: I have no idea why there is this rush to replace her. It’s hardly as if the alternatives are that great - there’s certainly no guarantee they’d be doing better than May. And for all her flaws, she’s certainly a much better option for the Tory party and the country than Boris or JRM. I still feel quite neutral towards May myself, although I would say I’m more sceptical about her political abilities than I was when she first became Tory leader, then I actually thought she’d be quite good.
I believe it is all about "get rid of monkey Hammond now, or we get rid of the organ-grinder too".
Best piece of journalistic writing I've come across for a long while.Brilliant.
Moronic. His case is that "Nowhere does the Telegraph say that Soros is Jewish. But to a particular audience – to those whose antennae are attuned to the high-frequency signal – it goes without saying." Well, of course it does, so what is the Telegraph to do? They have to give Soros some kind of context, which at least has to be that he is not a UK citizen and that he is a rich financier. It is deeply true that to many people, not all of them in the Labour party, those two facts alone trigger the responses "Rothschild, rootless, Elders of Zion, Saturdays by appointment only", but what is the Telegraph meant to do? Ignore the story, create a false identity for him as a retired mime artist living in Luton, or what?
One of the great problems with the English public school system is that it teaches immensely privileged young men with mediocre minds that they are the elite. The country pays the price.
Best piece of journalistic writing I've come across for a long while.Brilliant.
Moronic. His case is that "Nowhere does the Telegraph say that Soros is Jewish. But to a particular audience – to those whose antennae are attuned to the high-frequency signal – it goes without saying." Well, of course it does, so what is the Telegraph to do? They have to give Soros some kind of context, which at least has to be that he is not a UK citizen and that he is a rich financier. It is deeply true that to many people, not all of them in the Labour party, those two facts alone trigger the responses "Rothschild, rootless, Elders of Zion, Saturdays by appointment only", but what is the Telegraph meant to do? Ignore the story, create a false identity for him as a retired mime artist living in Luton, or what?
I agree but it is not how it will play out is it, and quite possibly not how it was meant to play out. Not that I'm inferring anything mind.
Best piece of journalistic writing I've come across for a long while.Brilliant.
Moronic. His case is that "Nowhere does the Telegraph say that Soros is Jewish. But to a particular audience – to those whose antennae are attuned to the high-frequency signal – it goes without saying." Well, of course it does, so what is the Telegraph to do? They have to give Soros some kind of context, which at least has to be that he is not a UK citizen and that he is a rich financier. It is deeply true that to many people, not all of them in the Labour party, those two facts alone trigger the responses "Rothschild, rootless, Elders of Zion, Saturdays by appointment only", but what is the Telegraph meant to do? Ignore the story, create a false identity for him as a retired mime artist living in Luton, or what?
I agree but it is not how it will play out is it, and quite possibly not how it was meant to play out. Not that I'm inferring anything mind.
The Guardian is accusing the Telegraph of thought crime.
Any chance at all of the membership rejecting the deal? The parties in Germany seem terrified of having new elections, of rejecting someone going into coalition even when obvious alliances are not in play.
Any chance at all of the membership rejecting the deal? The parties in Germany seem terrified of having new elections, of rejecting someone going into coalition even when obvious alliances are not in play.
I think 40%+ of the delegates were against, so not a slam dunk.....
This is interesting but omits any view on whether Corbyn's pissing in the tent will be the salvation of the Labour Party. I'm not in the tent but suspect that the consequences of Corbyn's pissing will impact me substantially
George Soros has probably been the subject of more anti-Semitic abuse than any other single living person. Of course it has to be mentioned in the context of allegations of "secret plots" about him.
George Soros has probably been the subject of more anti-Semitic abuse than any other single living person. Of course it has to be mentioned in the context of allegations of "secret plots" about him.
Brexit is essentially a kind of conspiracy theory (those dastardly Europeans bending our bananas! Those terrible economists forecasting doom and gloom!), and so unsurprising that parts of the Brexit movement will end up flirting with anti-Semitism.
Shame it happens to be on the front of the Telegraph, though.
George Soros has probably been the subject of more anti-Semitic abuse than any other single living person. Of course it has to be mentioned in the context of allegations of "secret plots" about him.
Brexit is essentially a kind of conspiracy theory (those dastardly Europeans bending our bananas! Those terrible economists forecasting doom and gloom!), and so unsurprising that parts of the Brexit movement will end up flirting with anti-Semitism.
Shame it happens to be on the front of the Telegraph, though.
The Telegraph has well and truly jumped shark since Brexit.
One of the great problems with the English public school system is that it teaches immensely privileged young men with mediocre minds that they are the elite. The country pays the price.
I was thinking the Moggster, Daniel Hannan, Seamas Milne and various other prominent Brexit loons. Have you caused harm to the country?
One of my cousins invented the null reference. Does that count?
Tony?
Yep. He calls it his billion dollar mistake...
He’s a little harsh on himself with that quote, there’s many worse things in computing than null references.
How many more geniuses are there in your family?
Does inventing the banker’s draft and the cheque count?
Edit: and my grandfather was a Fellow of All Souls
We've heard something like this before, haven't we?
Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart...
George Soros has probably been the subject of more anti-Semitic abuse than any other single living person. Of course it has to be mentioned in the context of allegations of "secret plots" about him.
Brexit is essentially a kind of conspiracy theory (those dastardly Europeans bending our bananas! Those terrible economists forecasting doom and gloom!), and so unsurprising that parts of the Brexit movement will end up flirting with anti-Semitism.
Shame it happens to be on the front of the Telegraph, though.
The fallacy of the undistributed middle: oak trees are trees, beeches are trees, therefore oaks are beeches.
Brexiters are conspiracy theorists, anti Semites are conspiracy theorists, therefore brexiters are anti-Semites.
George Soros has probably been the subject of more anti-Semitic abuse than any other single living person. Of course it has to be mentioned in the context of allegations of "secret plots" about him.
To be fair, the summary box does point out that Orban has been accused of "stoking antisemetic feeling".
George Soros has probably been the subject of more anti-Semitic abuse than any other single living person. Of course it has to be mentioned in the context of allegations of "secret plots" about him.
I wouldn’t read too much into “secret plots”. For a political journalist all “plots” are “secret” in the same way all “backbenchers” are “senior”
One of the great problems with the English public school system is that it teaches immensely privileged young men with mediocre minds that they are the elite. The country pays the price.
I was thinking the Moggster, Daniel Hannan, Seamas Milne and various other prominent Brexit loons. Have you caused harm to the country?
One of my cousins invented the null reference. Does that count?
Tony?
Yep. He calls it his billion dollar mistake...
He’s a little harsh on himself with that quote, there’s many worse things in computing than null references.
How many more geniuses are there in your family?
Does inventing the banker’s draft and the cheque count?
Edit: and my grandfather was a Fellow of All Souls
We've heard something like this before, haven't we?
Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart...
Happy to admit that I’m bright and good at interpreting data but not an original thinker.
George Soros has probably been the subject of more anti-Semitic abuse than any other single living person. Of course it has to be mentioned in the context of allegations of "secret plots" about him.
Brexit is essentially a kind of conspiracy theory (those dastardly Europeans bending our bananas! Those terrible economists forecasting doom and gloom!), and so unsurprising that parts of the Brexit movement will end up flirting with anti-Semitism.
Shame it happens to be on the front of the Telegraph, though.
The fallacy of the undistributed middle: oak trees are trees, beeches are trees, therefore oaks are beeches.
Brexiters are conspiracy theorists, anti Semites are conspiracy theorists, therefore brexiters are anti-Semites.
Not really because oaks and beeches are mutually exclusive categories, whereas Brexitry and anti-semitism —- not so much.
One of the great problems with the English public school system is that it teaches immensely privileged young men with mediocre minds that they are the elite. The country pays the price.
I was thinking the Moggster, Daniel Hannan, Seamas Milne and various other prominent Brexit loons. Have you caused harm to the country?
One of my cousins invented the null reference. Does that count?
Tony?
Yep. He calls it his billion dollar mistake...
He’s a little harsh on himself with that quote, there’s many worse things in computing than null references.
How many more geniuses are there in your family?
Does inventing the banker’s draft and the cheque count?
Edit: and my grandfather was a Fellow of All Souls
We've heard something like this before, haven't we?
Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart...
As I was saying to Quincy Jones and the Duchess of Wessex just the other day —- the only reason I come to PB is for Charles’s hilarious name dropping.
Okay, maybe I’m missing something here. How is saying “Rich man gives money to political campaign” antisemitic, just because the rich man happens to be Jewish? There was no mention of Judaism in the article at all.
Okay, maybe I’m missing something here. How is saying “Rich man gives money to political campaign” antisemitic, just because the rich man happens to be Jewish? There was no mention of Judaism in the article at all.
Okay, maybe I’m missing something here. How is saying “Rich man gives money to political campaign” antisemitic, just because the rich man happens to be Jewish? There was no mention of Judaism in the article at all.
Read the thread Alistair linked to, the Rob Ford one.
One of the great problems with the English public school system is that it teaches immensely privileged young men with mediocre minds that they are the elite. The country pays the price.
I was thinking the Moggster, Daniel Hannan, Seamas Milne and various other prominent Brexit loons. Have you caused harm to the country?
One of my cousins invented the null reference. Does that count?
Tony?
Yep. He calls it his billion dollar mistake...
He’s a little harsh on himself with that quote, there’s many worse things in computing than null references.
How many more geniuses are there in your family?
Does inventing the banker’s draft and the cheque count?
Edit: and my grandfather was a Fellow of All Souls
We've heard something like this before, haven't we?
Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart...
As I was saying to Quincy Jones and the Duchess of Wessex just the other day —- the only reason I come to PB is for Charles’s hilarious name dropping.
I was asked a question and i answered it. At least partially - I didn’t mention the gardener, the antiquarian or the painter all of whom are well known in their areas of expertise.
George Soros has probably been the subject of more anti-Semitic abuse than any other single living person. Of course it has to be mentioned in the context of allegations of "secret plots" about him.
Brexit is essentially a kind of conspiracy theory (those dastardly Europeans bending our bananas! Those terrible economists forecasting doom and gloom!), and so unsurprising that parts of the Brexit movement will end up flirting with anti-Semitism.
Shame it happens to be on the front of the Telegraph, though.
The fallacy of the undistributed middle: oak trees are trees, beeches are trees, therefore oaks are beeches.
Brexiters are conspiracy theorists, anti Semites are conspiracy theorists, therefore brexiters are anti-Semites.
Farage, arguably the most famous Brexiter, appears to be a curious hybrid of oak and beech.
Okay, maybe I’m missing something here. How is saying “Rich man gives money to political campaign” antisemitic, just because the rich man happens to be Jewish? There was no mention of Judaism in the article at all.
Read the thread posted by Mr Meeks.
I read that, and all the comments under it, and all the comments here, and still don’t get it. The article made no mention of Jews or Jewishness, Rob Ford notes that other people who don’t like Soros don’t like him because he’s Jewish, but the Telegraph article doesn’t say any of that, only that a rich foreign man give a big cheque to a Remain campaign.
Must be too late for my frazzled brain, beer o’clock I think.
One of the great problems with the English public school system is that it teaches immensely privileged young men with mediocre minds that they are the elite. The country pays the price.
I was thinking the Moggster, Daniel Hannan, Seamas Milne and various other prominent Brexit loons. Have you caused harm to the country?
One of my cousins invented the null reference. Does that count?
Tony?
Yep. He calls it his billion dollar mistake...
He’s a little harsh on himself with that quote, there’s many worse things in computing than null references.
How many more geniuses are there in your family?
Does inventing the banker’s draft and the cheque count?
Edit: and my grandfather was a Fellow of All Souls
We've heard something like this before, haven't we?
Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart...
As I was saying to Quincy Jones and the Duchess of Wessex just the other day —- the only reason I come to PB is for Charles’s hilarious name dropping.
I was asked a question and i answered it. At least partially - I didn’t mention the gardener, the antiquarian or the painter all of whom are well known in their areas of expertise.
One of the great problems with the English public school system is that it teaches immensely privileged young men with mediocre minds that they are the elite. The country pays the price.
I was thinking the Moggster, Daniel Hannan, Seamas Milne and various other prominent Brexit loons. Have you caused harm to the country?
One of my cousins invented the null reference. Does that count?
Tony?
Yep. He calls it his billion dollar mistake...
He’s a little harsh on himself with that quote, there’s many worse things in computing than null references.
How many more geniuses are there in your family?
Does inventing the banker’s draft and the cheque count?
Edit: and my grandfather was a Fellow of All Souls
We've heard something like this before, haven't we?
Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart...
As I was saying to Quincy Jones and the Duchess of Wessex just the other day —- the only reason I come to PB is for Charles’s hilarious name dropping.
I was asked a question and i answered it. At least partially - I didn’t mention the gardener, the antiquarian or the painter all of whom are well known in their areas of expertise.
Or the one who cuckolded a famous cricketer...
(But his painting was hung in the cellar for 100 years as a punishment)
One of the great problems with the English public school system is that it teaches immensely privileged young men with mediocre minds that they are the elite. The country pays the price.
I was thinking the Moggster, Daniel Hannan, Seamas Milne and various other prominent Brexit loons. Have you caused harm to the country?
One of my cousins invented the null reference. Does that count?
Tony?
Yep. He calls it his billion dollar mistake...
He’s a little harsh on himself with that quote, there’s many worse things in computing than null references.
How many more geniuses are there in your family?
Does inventing the banker’s draft and the cheque count?
Edit: and my grandfather was a Fellow of All Souls
We've heard something like this before, haven't we?
Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart...
As I was saying to Quincy Jones and the Duchess of Wessex just the other day —- the only reason I come to PB is for Charles’s hilarious name dropping.
I was asked a question and i answered it. At least partially - I didn’t mention the gardener, the antiquarian or the painter all of whom are well known in their areas of expertise.
One of the great problems with the English public school system is that it teaches immensely privileged young men with mediocre minds that they are the elite. The country pays the price.
I was thinking the Moggster, Daniel Hannan, Seamas Milne and various other prominent Brexit loons. Have you caused harm to the country?
One of my cousins invented the null reference. Does that count?
Tony?
Yep. He calls it his billion dollar mistake...
He’s a little harsh on himself with that quote, there’s many worse things in computing than null references.
How many more geniuses are there in your family?
Does inventing the banker’s draft and the cheque count?
Edit: and my grandfather was a Fellow of All Souls
We've heard something like this before, haven't we?
Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart...
As I was saying to Quincy Jones and the Duchess of Wessex just the other day —- the only reason I come to PB is for Charles’s hilarious name dropping.
I was asked a question and i answered it. At least partially - I didn’t mention the gardener, the antiquarian or the painter all of whom are well known in their areas of expertise.
No duds at all
Plenty of them - one was so duddish that we shipped him to New Zealand where he went bankrupt running a sheep farm...
Okay, maybe I’m missing something here. How is saying “Rich man gives money to political campaign” antisemitic, just because the rich man happens to be Jewish? There was no mention of Judaism in the article at all.
Because completely different people, in completely different contexts, have said anti-Semitic things about him, is the argument, I think. There is a new flavour of smear here where if A says something, and B quite unconnectedly says something about the same thing, and you know very well there is no causal connection, you say A is *complicit* in what B says, and vv.
What is really happening is that the left is smarting so badly from being correctly accused of anti-Semitism, it has leapt at the chance of making incorrect allegations against other people.
But what a storm in a teacup. How many protocols do you get for £400,000 these days, after all? The story is "Foolish old man spends money foolishly," and anyone who thinks that "foolish old man" is a dog whistle allusion to a well-known 1930s nazi anti-Semitic trope, can keep it to themselves.
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We used to have veto over many other things, but they disappeared. QMV for an EU army was only a matter of time.
In the unlikely even we get hit by tarriffs then we slash other business costs - taxes, rates etc.
https://twitter.com/standardnews/status/961646709397970944
www.ballynahinch-castle.com
www.rosscastle.com
www.castleellenhouse.wordpress.com
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/08/george-w-bush-russia-election-meddling-398173
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/680366/Technical_Note_-_International_Agreements_in_the_Implementation_Period_-_CLEAN.pdf
(Night class?)
The one thing I will say is that I think those hoping for a New Labour style Labour Party will be kept waiting, irregardless of how Labour do in 2022. I think that even though they wouldn’t vote for it, many on the centre right want there to be a Labour Party that accepts/embraces some Conservative ideas and I don’t see that happening anytime soon.
I’d like a Labour Party which didn’t have the issues it does with anti-Semitism, nor Seamus Milne associated with it, nor McDonnell as Shadow Chancellor. But I wouldn’t want to see Labour mimic Tory positions on immigration, the economy, welfare, and public services. I understand why Corbyn’s taking the position he is on Brexit, even though my own views are closer to the likes of Ian Dunt.
So let's say 70% growth over 15 years is an approx benchmark. The 16% reduction is a 16% reduction of what?
16% of the growth lost: 70% growth -> 59% growth
16 points of growth lost -> 54% growth
16% lower GDP in 15 years -> 43% growth
I suspect the middle one.
Of course as a high debt, post crash economy, you could be factoring lower underlying regional growth. 2.5% per year would be around a 45% start point, then the calcs look very different.
On some of these numbers WTO could be argued as a political decision, on others the growth performance turns the NE into Italy.
How many more geniuses are there in your family?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/02/08/david-davis-accuses-eu-discourteous-acting-bad-faith-transition/
"The source accused Brussels of deliberately stalling negotiations in a bid to reduce negotiating time and increase pressure on Britain. "They're playing games," the source said.
Mr Davis told Sky News: "I do not think it was in good faith to publish a document with frankly discourteous language and actually implying that they could arbitrarily terminate in effect the implementation period.
"That's not what the aim of this exercise is, it's not in good faith and we think it was unwise to publish it.""
https://www.newstatesman.com/uk-politics/2010/11/mortified-marr-labour-coulson
Right, so no story then.
Incredible.
http://www.wahlrecht.de/umfragen/
...shows nothing very much, though compared with the last GMS poll it does give a further Green boost. As the agrement is short on green promises, that does make sense.
Edit: and my grandfather was a Fellow of All Souls
https://twitter.com/robfordmancs/status/961610545282633728
https://twitter.com/robfordmancs/status/961613620550426624
Shame it happens to be on the front of the Telegraph, though.
Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart...
Brexiters are conspiracy theorists, anti Semites are conspiracy theorists, therefore brexiters are anti-Semites.
And I don’t want to be US President.
It appears the USAF have blown up a SpaceX rocket, and SpaceX are happy about it:
http://www.americaspace.com/2018/02/08/air-force-strike-takes-out-spacexs-floating-govsat-booster/
http://www.cityam.com/280280/gina-miller-denies-links-billionaire-soros-and-best-britain
Must be too late for my frazzled brain, beer o’clock I think.
(But his painting was hung in the cellar for 100 years as a punishment)
What is really happening is that the left is smarting so badly from being correctly accused of anti-Semitism, it has leapt at the chance of making incorrect allegations against other people.
But what a storm in a teacup. How many protocols do you get for £400,000 these days, after all? The story is "Foolish old man spends money foolishly," and anyone who thinks that "foolish old man" is a dog whistle allusion to a well-known 1930s nazi anti-Semitic trope, can keep it to themselves.