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Mayweather is not giving up his perfect record for any size of payday.0
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TOPPING said:
Live! I thought of waiting until the morning but I will watch the (very good) undercard and then the thing itself. It's a long weekend so to hell with it!Sandpit said:
I guess we’ll soon find out. Apparently they step on the scales at around 11pm tonight UK time.TOPPING said:
It's interesting - I think his pride will want to make the 154; he will in any case rehydrate to 165-170 so he climbs through the ropes a stone heavier than Mayweather regardless. I just don't think in his mind he wants to be seen as a guy who comes in overweight to an agreed fight.Sandpit said:
Yes, and it’s not something that ever usually happens in a title fight - if one fighter can’t make weight then the fight’s off. In this case there’s a financial penalty ($1m a lb?) attached to the weigh-in.Pulpstar said:
Wait for the weigh in before piling on that I'd say. If Conor comes in at say 163, there is a fair chance he could last 12 rounds..Sandpit said:
Betfair now have a whole pile of markets up for the fight, including round of victory, minute of victory, exact method of victory, under/over number of knockdowns, counts and many more.TOPPING said:
At the end of the day they are both climbing through the ropes to hit each other and it will be the person who is better at it than the other that wins. That's the beauty of the fight. It is actually happening - the bear vs crocodile is happening and there will be a winner!Peter_the_Punter said:
Oh, and as regards the /O'Connor thinrevents, from Big Brother to the Eurovision Song contest farce, and to small stakes there's no harm but you know that they're not really straight and you'd be a fool to stake heavily unless you have insider knowledge.
I'd take the same view of this one. It whiffs.
Edit: that's Mayweather McGregor I'm talking about, not May vs BoJo!!
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/boxing/event/28050875/market?marketId=1.132180828
1.33 on the fight not going 12 rounds looks like free money.
I think MacGregor coming in overweight will be the next drama in this (profitable) farce
If McGregor comes in a stone overweight that does change the complexion of the fight somewhat, maybe Mayweather will start sledging him as the fat f*** before they even start!
But of course I know nothing of his mind!
Have you decided how you’re going to watch yet?
I’m 3 hours ahead of UK so have alarm on for 5:30am. I’ll be watching with coffee rather than whisky!0 -
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Maywaether is never going to finish him of in a single round - that's not his style. He will do what he's always done and Connor will knacker himself chasing Mayweather around the ring. And then Mayweather will pick him apart.CD13 said:I 'd have thought McGregor's best hope is that Mayweather dies of old age before the bout.
I remember the cross-code rugby matches and some of the RL fans around here claiming they'd win both matches easily. You'll win the League match easily, I agreed, but you've no chance in the Union game.
I'm no Nostradamus but that was bleedin' obvious. Assuming Mayweather is taking it seriously, there's only one winner unless he trips on his shoelace and lands on McGregor's glove.
If it lasts more than a round, Mayweather is showboating.
Greetings to all Brexiteers. The sun is shining, the EU is whining, and all's well with the world.0 -
booringSandpit said:TOPPING said:
Live! I thought of waiting until the morning but I will watch the (very good) undercard and then the thing itself. It's a long weekend so to hell with it!Sandpit said:
I guess we’ll soon find out. Apparently they step on the scales at around 11pm tonight UK time.TOPPING said:
It's interesting - I think his pride will want to make the 154; he will in any case rehydrate to 165-170 so he climbs through the ropes a stone heavier than Mayweather regardless. I just don't think in his mind he wants to be seen as a guy who comes in overweight to an agreed fight.Sandpit said:
Yes, and it’s not something that ever usually happens in a title fight - if one fighter can’t make weight then the fight’s off. In this case there’s a financial penalty ($1m a lb?) attached to the weigh-in.Pulpstar said:
Wait for the weigh in before piling on that I'd say. If Conor comes in at say 163, there is a fair chance he could last 12 rounds..Sandpit said:
Betfair now have a whole pile of markets up for the fight, including round of victory, minute of victory, exact method of victory, under/over number of knockdowns, counts and many more.TOPPING said:
At the end of the day they are both climbing through the ropes to hit each other and it will be the person who is better at it than the other that wins. That's the beauty of the fight. It is actually happening - the bear vs crocodile is happening and there will be a winner!Peter_the_Punter said:
Oh, and as regards the /O'Connor thinrevents, from Big Brother to the Eurovision Song contest farce, and to small stakes there's no harm but you know that they're not really straight and you'd be a fool to stake heavily unless you have insider knowledge.
I'd take the same view of this one. It whiffs.
Edit: that's Mayweather McGregor I'm talking about, not May vs BoJo!!
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/boxing/event/28050875/market?marketId=1.132180828
1.33 on the fight not going 12 rounds looks like free money.
I think MacGregor coming in overweight will be the next drama in this (profitable) farce
If McGregor comes in a stone overweight that does change the complexion of the fight somewhat, maybe Mayweather will start sledging him as the fat f*** before they even start!
But of course I know nothing of his mind!
Have you decided how you’re going to watch yet?
I’m 3 hours ahead of UK so have alarm on for 5:30am. I’ll be watching with coffee rather than whisky!0 -
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I hadn't considered this angle before. It may well be worth losing my stake to stick one to Matthew Syed/Gladwell types.AlastairMeeks said:Malcolm Gladwell is surely hoping that Floyd Mayweather wins. If he doesn't, his 10,000 hours theory will never be taken seriously again.
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Mr. Meeks/Mr. Alistair, what is the 10,000 hours theory?0
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As I have commented before the EU debate is polarised.
However, over the coming months public opinion will be vital and I would suggest the EU will lose the backing of the UK voter if either or both of the following are not agreed by the EU
No large Brexit fee
No ruling by the ECJ on anyone living in the UK - this is a matter for the UK supreme court.
At this stage those are the two game changers0 -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outliers_(book)#SynopsisMorris_Dancer said:Mr. Meeks/Mr. Alistair, what is the 10,000 hours theory?
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And the solution for the Irish border will be?Big_G_NorthWales said:As I have commented before the EU debate is polarised.
However, over the coming months public opinion will be vital and I would suggest the EU will lose the backing of the UK voter if either or both of the following are not agreed by the EU
No large Brexit fee
No ruling by the ECJ on anyone living in the UK - this is a matter for the UK supreme court.
At this stage those are the two game changers
Public opinion can't change any of the hard facts or avoid any of the hard choices.0 -
Actually I don't think that is the choice, which makes Brexit interesting. The EU is a system. By voting Leave, we vote to leave that system. However the system remains. Almost all the important countries in Europe are part of that system and even countries that are not members, but which we want relations with, operate to a significant degree to that system. Additionally we are plugged into that system in ways that we don't want to disrupt. The questions are: do we reject the system entirely, do we ignore it or do we try to work with it? If it's the latter, and eventually that's what I expect it will mainly be, we will be doing so on the EU's terms and at the EU's whim.Morris_Dancer said:Dr. Foxinsox, the EU is not solid or reliable. It's driven by political ideology that's not only divorced from democratic legitimacy but unable to ever acquire it because there is no single European identity and the cultural, economic, social and demographic differences between nations are too large to bridge.
Furthermore, QMV means it'll turn ever more into a eurozone club.
If genuine reform had been possible, that would've been great. But the EU only reforms in one direction. It's all about integration, and that's the ultimate choice we face. Separate, or integrate.
It's not Leave in Name Only; it's Sovereignty in Name Only, (SINO), where we have minimal control, little influence and a worse arrangement overall than we had before.0 -
If you spend a lot of time practicing something in an effective manner you get good at it.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Meeks/Mr. Alistair, what is the 10,000 hours theory?
This apparently requires books to be written on the subject and huge amount of hullabaloo because the general public are too stupid to understand the concept.
Syed takes it further with his "Myth of Talent" concepts and basically claims that he would back the one legged man in an arse kicking contest if the one legged man had done more training than his opponent. He denies that Usain Bolt has any physiological advantages that give him a leg up over other sprinters. He just trained better than everyone else.
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He's not fighting Triple G! He's fighting a guy who will never have been hit as hard as he is about to be hit. And a guy who is a stone heavier than him with unknown stamina.Alistair said:
Maywaether is never going to finish him of in a single round - that's not his style. He will do what he's always done and Connor will knacker himself chasing Mayweather around the ring. And then Mayweather will pick him apart.CD13 said:I 'd have thought McGregor's best hope is that Mayweather dies of old age before the bout.
I remember the cross-code rugby matches and some of the RL fans around here claiming they'd win both matches easily. You'll win the League match easily, I agreed, but you've no chance in the Union game.
I'm no Nostradamus but that was bleedin' obvious. Assuming Mayweather is taking it seriously, there's only one winner unless he trips on his shoelace and lands on McGregor's glove.
If it lasts more than a round, Mayweather is showboating.
Greetings to all Brexiteers. The sun is shining, the EU is whining, and all's well with the world.
The world (including me) thinks Conor will gas after half a dozen rounds, but what if he doesn't? Mayweather can and will end it as soon as possible and has the tools to do that at their first encounter.0 -
Mr. Meeks, cheers.0
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I agree and this is why it must not be allowed to happen. Brexitism needs to face up to its contradictions otherwise we will end up as an international joke. A soft Brexit would be the worst possible outcome in the long term.FF43 said:It's not Leave in Name Only; it's Sovereignty in Name Only, (SINO), where we have minimal control, little influence and a worse arrangement overall than we had before.
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The Irish border does not concern me - there is too much at stake for Ireland for this not to be resolved through negotiation.williamglenn said:
And the solution for the Irish border will be?Big_G_NorthWales said:As I have commented before the EU debate is polarised.
However, over the coming months public opinion will be vital and I would suggest the EU will lose the backing of the UK voter if either or both of the following are not agreed by the EU
No large Brexit fee
No ruling by the ECJ on anyone living in the UK - this is a matter for the UK supreme court.
At this stage those are the two game changers
Public opinion can't change any of the hard facts or avoid any of the hard choices.
Of course public opinion matters and whoever gets the backing of the public will win the day0 -
Is there enough at stake for the UK to ask for special status for Northern Ireland within the EU?Big_G_NorthWales said:The Irish border does not concern me - there is too much at stake for Ireland for this not to be resolved through negotiation.
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A Brexiteer response to every difficult question posed thus far...Big_G_NorthWales said:The Irish border does not concern me
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So the same reason that airlines require someone to have 5,000 hrs of flying planes before they can be a captain, or a hospital requiring that a doctor has a few years’ experience before they can lead a neurosurgery?Alistair said:
If you spend a lot of time practicing something in an effective manner you get good at it.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Meeks/Mr. Alistair, what is the 10,000 hours theory?
This apparently requires books to be written on the subject and huge amount of hullabaloo because the general public are too stupid to understand the concept.
Syed takes it further with his "Myth of Talent" concepts and basically claims that he would back the one legged man in an arse kicking contest if the one legged man had done more training than his opponent. He denies that Usain Bolt has any physiological advantages that give him a leg up over other sprinters. He just trained better than everyone else.
“Myth of Talent” is bollocks though, just look at those who line up in certain events. Does he think that if the Jamaicans started training to run marathons then they’d eventually be able to beat the Kenyans?0 -
Well, lets just stay in then, disregard a democratic vote and accept the serious implications, as those who voted leave feel betrayed. Furthermore, can you see UK MEP's being elected again and everything goes back to pre referendum days.williamglenn said:
I agree and this is why it must not be allowed to happen. Brexitism needs to face up to its contradictions otherwise we will end up as an international joke. A soft Brexit would be the worst possible outcome in the long term.FF43 said:It's not Leave in Name Only; it's Sovereignty in Name Only, (SINO), where we have minimal control, little influence and a worse arrangement overall than we had before.
It is not going to happen and may I remind you I voted remain0 -
50 to 1Morris_Dancer said:Mr. City, but what odds?
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Mr. City, cheers. Best of luck.0
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I reject you labelling me a Brexiteer - As I have already stated I voted remain but accept we now must leave - end of storyScott_P said:
A Brexiteer response to every difficult question posed thus far...Big_G_NorthWales said:The Irish border does not concern me
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Presenting people with the true consequences of their choice is respecting them, not betraying them.Big_G_NorthWales said:Well, lets just stay in then, disregard a democratic vote and accept the serious implications, as those who voted leave feel betrayed.
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Actually it's one of the Brexit questions closest to my heart as I live in sight of the other, forgotten, land border between GB and an EU state. The current and future border solution here affects every day of my life both on a personal and business level.Scott_P said:
A Brexiteer response to every difficult question posed thus far...Big_G_NorthWales said:The Irish border does not concern me
But it doesn't concern me. Whatever happens, happens. We will adopt, adapt and improve.0 -
The problem with your viewpoint is the arrogance that only you are right. You can have no idea of the eventual consequence of us leaving the EU as can anyone. It could just be a very big success story but that would not fit your narrativewilliamglenn said:
Presenting people with the true consequences of their choice is respecting them, not betraying them.Big_G_NorthWales said:Well, lets just stay in then, disregard a democratic vote and accept the serious implications, as those who voted leave feel betrayed.
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No-one seems to be offering odds that the whole thing defends into such a farce that 4m Americans start asking for their $99 back. I’d price that eventuality at no higher than 10/1.TOPPING said:
He's not fighting Triple G! He's fighting a guy who will never have been hit as hard as he is about to be hit. And a guy who is a stone heavier than him with unknown stamina.Alistair said:
Maywaether is never going to finish him of in a single round - that's not his style. He will do what he's always done and Connor will knacker himself chasing Mayweather around the ring. And then Mayweather will pick him apart.CD13 said:I 'd have thought McGregor's best hope is that Mayweather dies of old age before the bout.
I remember the cross-code rugby matches and some of the RL fans around here claiming they'd win both matches easily. You'll win the League match easily, I agreed, but you've no chance in the Union game.
I'm no Nostradamus but that was bleedin' obvious. Assuming Mayweather is taking it seriously, there's only one winner unless he trips on his shoelace and lands on McGregor's glove.
If it lasts more than a round, Mayweather is showboating.
Greetings to all Brexiteers. The sun is shining, the EU is whining, and all's well with the world.
The world (including me) thinks Conor will gas after half a dozen rounds, but what if he doesn't? Mayweather can and will end it as soon as possible and has the tools to do that at their first encounter.0 -
Got to be off. Second practice commences in just over 20 minutes.0
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Absolutely the best thing about the Round Table motto - adopt, adapt and improve.GeoffM said:
Actually it's one of the Brexit questions closest to my heart as I live in sight of the other, forgotten, land border between GB and an EU state. The current and future border solution here affects every day of my life both on a personal and business level.Scott_P said:
A Brexiteer response to every difficult question posed thus far...Big_G_NorthWales said:The Irish border does not concern me
But it doesn't concern me. Whatever happens, happens. We will adopt, adapt and improve.
There are many on here who would do well to take that motto on board0 -
Cheers Morris not had a good Ebor Festival at York racecourse so far.Could not make my mind up between Ulysses and Churchill in the Juddmonte International ,went for Churchill must have been influenced by watching Dunkirk at the cinema.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. City, cheers. Best of luck.
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Soft Brexit is the most likely outcome in the long run as we rejoin EFTA and probably even the EEA under a future centrist Labour PM. In the short term though I agree it will be closer to hard Brexit for the next 5 to 10 years with immigration control paramountwilliamglenn said:
I agree and this is why it must not be allowed to happen. Brexitism needs to face up to its contradictions otherwise we will end up as an international joke. A soft Brexit would be the worst possible outcome in the long term.FF43 said:It's not Leave in Name Only; it's Sovereignty in Name Only, (SINO), where we have minimal control, little influence and a worse arrangement overall than we had before.
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Alas my Tabling days are over.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Absolutely the best thing about the Round Table motto - adopt, adapt and improve.GeoffM said:
Actually it's one of the Brexit questions closest to my heart as I live in sight of the other, forgotten, land border between GB and an EU state. The current and future border solution here affects every day of my life both on a personal and business level.Scott_P said:
A Brexiteer response to every difficult question posed thus far...Big_G_NorthWales said:The Irish border does not concern me
But it doesn't concern me. Whatever happens, happens. We will adopt, adapt and improve.
There are many on here who would do well to take that motto on board0 -
???????GeoffM said:
Actually it's one of the Brexit questions closest to my heart as I live in sight of the other, forgotten, land border between GB and an EU state. The current and future border solution here affects every day of my life both on a personal and business level.Scott_P said:
A Brexiteer response to every difficult question posed thus far...Big_G_NorthWales said:The Irish border does not concern me
But it doesn't concern me. Whatever happens, happens. We will adopt, adapt and improve.0 -
haha yes exactly and if that was included in the "draw" category I'd back the bollocks off it at 90s!!Sandpit said:
No-one seems to be offering odds that the whole thing defends into such a farce that 4m Americans start asking for their $99 back. I’d price that eventuality at no higher than 10/1.TOPPING said:
He's not fighting Triple G! He's fighting a guy who will never have been hit as hard as he is about to be hit. And a guy who is a stone heavier than him with unknown stamina.Alistair said:
Maywaether is never going to finish him of in a single round - that's not his style. He will do what he's always done and Connor will knacker himself chasing Mayweather around the ring. And then Mayweather will pick him apart.CD13 said:I 'd have thought McGregor's best hope is that Mayweather dies of old age before the bout.
I remember the cross-code rugby matches and some of the RL fans around here claiming they'd win both matches easily. You'll win the League match easily, I agreed, but you've no chance in the Union game.
I'm no Nostradamus but that was bleedin' obvious. Assuming Mayweather is taking it seriously, there's only one winner unless he trips on his shoelace and lands on McGregor's glove.
If it lasts more than a round, Mayweather is showboating.
Greetings to all Brexiteers. The sun is shining, the EU is whining, and all's well with the world.
The world (including me) thinks Conor will gas after half a dozen rounds, but what if he doesn't? Mayweather can and will end it as soon as possible and has the tools to do that at their first encounter.0 -
So are mine - over 30 years agoGeoffM said:
Alas my Tabling days are over.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Absolutely the best thing about the Round Table motto - adopt, adapt and improve.GeoffM said:
Actually it's one of the Brexit questions closest to my heart as I live in sight of the other, forgotten, land border between GB and an EU state. The current and future border solution here affects every day of my life both on a personal and business level.Scott_P said:
A Brexiteer response to every difficult question posed thus far...Big_G_NorthWales said:The Irish border does not concern me
But it doesn't concern me. Whatever happens, happens. We will adopt, adapt and improve.
There are many on here who would do well to take that motto on board0 -
James Chapman has gone without twitter for over a week now.0
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Gibraltar-SpainBlue_rog said:
???????GeoffM said:
Actually it's one of the Brexit questions closest to my heart as I live in sight of the other, forgotten, land border between GB and an EU state. The current and future border solution here affects every day of my life both on a personal and business level.Scott_P said:
A Brexiteer response to every difficult question posed thus far...Big_G_NorthWales said:The Irish border does not concern me
But it doesn't concern me. Whatever happens, happens. We will adopt, adapt and improve.0 -
We can resolve that quite easily by using Gibraltar as payment in kind for the EU bill.GeoffM said:
Gibraltar-SpainBlue_rog said:
???????GeoffM said:
Actually it's one of the Brexit questions closest to my heart as I live in sight of the other, forgotten, land border between GB and an EU state. The current and future border solution here affects every day of my life both on a personal and business level.Scott_P said:
A Brexiteer response to every difficult question posed thus far...Big_G_NorthWales said:The Irish border does not concern me
But it doesn't concern me. Whatever happens, happens. We will adopt, adapt and improve.0 -
No we won't, there is no way any Tory PM would last 5 seconds longer if they contemplated giving up Gibraltar not to mention the Gibraltarians would be furiousfoxinsoxuk said:
We can resolve that quite easily by using Gibraltar as payment in kind for the EU bill.GeoffM said:
Gibraltar-SpainBlue_rog said:
???????GeoffM said:
Actually it's one of the Brexit questions closest to my heart as I live in sight of the other, forgotten, land border between GB and an EU state. The current and future border solution here affects every day of my life both on a personal and business level.Scott_P said:
A Brexiteer response to every difficult question posed thus far...Big_G_NorthWales said:The Irish border does not concern me
But it doesn't concern me. Whatever happens, happens. We will adopt, adapt and improve.0 -
Selling 30,000 people?foxinsoxuk said:
We can resolve that quite easily by using Gibraltar as payment in kind for the EU bill.GeoffM said:
Gibraltar-SpainBlue_rog said:
???????GeoffM said:
Actually it's one of the Brexit questions closest to my heart as I live in sight of the other, forgotten, land border between GB and an EU state. The current and future border solution here affects every day of my life both on a personal and business level.Scott_P said:
A Brexiteer response to every difficult question posed thus far...Big_G_NorthWales said:The Irish border does not concern me
But it doesn't concern me. Whatever happens, happens. We will adopt, adapt and improve.
I obviously already had you down as a traitor ... but not as a slave-trader too.0 -
That is how this government collapses, when either a faction of the Tories or the DUP realise that they are being sold down the river.HYUFD said:
No we won't, there is no way any Tory PM would last 5 seconds longer if they contemplated giving up Gibraltar not to mention the Gibraltarians would be furiousfoxinsoxuk said:
We can resolve that quite easily by using Gibraltar as payment in kind for the EU bill.GeoffM said:
Gibraltar-SpainBlue_rog said:
???????GeoffM said:
Actually it's one of the Brexit questions closest to my heart as I live in sight of the other, forgotten, land border between GB and an EU state. The current and future border solution here affects every day of my life both on a personal and business level.Scott_P said:
A Brexiteer response to every difficult question posed thus far...Big_G_NorthWales said:The Irish border does not concern me
But it doesn't concern me. Whatever happens, happens. We will adopt, adapt and improve.
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So don't sell them down the river.foxinsoxuk said:
That is how this government collapses, when either a faction of the Tories or the DUP realise that they are being sold down the river.HYUFD said:
No we won't, there is no way any Tory PM would last 5 seconds longer if they contemplated giving up Gibraltar not to mention the Gibraltarians would be furiousfoxinsoxuk said:
We can resolve that quite easily by using Gibraltar as payment in kind for the EU bill.GeoffM said:
Gibraltar-SpainBlue_rog said:
???????GeoffM said:
Actually it's one of the Brexit questions closest to my heart as I live in sight of the other, forgotten, land border between GB and an EU state. The current and future border solution here affects every day of my life both on a personal and business level.Scott_P said:
A Brexiteer response to every difficult question posed thus far...Big_G_NorthWales said:The Irish border does not concern me
But it doesn't concern me. Whatever happens, happens. We will adopt, adapt and improve.0 -
We could build a monument to celebrate whoever signed the papers.GeoffM said:
Selling 30,000 people?foxinsoxuk said:
We can resolve that quite easily by using Gibraltar as payment in kind for the EU bill.GeoffM said:
Gibraltar-SpainBlue_rog said:
???????GeoffM said:
Actually it's one of the Brexit questions closest to my heart as I live in sight of the other, forgotten, land border between GB and an EU state. The current and future border solution here affects every day of my life both on a personal and business level.Scott_P said:
A Brexiteer response to every difficult question posed thus far...Big_G_NorthWales said:The Irish border does not concern me
But it doesn't concern me. Whatever happens, happens. We will adopt, adapt and improve.
I obviously already had you down as a traitor ... but not as a slave-trader too.0 -
Are they? Tory backbenchers and the DUP control what the government can actually do in reality given the hung parliamentfoxinsoxuk said:
That is how this government collapses, when either a faction of the Tories or the DUP realise that they are being sold down the river.HYUFD said:
No we won't, there is no way any Tory PM would last 5 seconds longer if they contemplated giving up Gibraltar not to mention the Gibraltarians would be furiousfoxinsoxuk said:
We can resolve that quite easily by using Gibraltar as payment in kind for the EU bill.GeoffM said:
Gibraltar-SpainBlue_rog said:
???????GeoffM said:
Actually it's one of the Brexit questions closest to my heart as I live in sight of the other, forgotten, land border between GB and an EU state. The current and future border solution here affects every day of my life both on a personal and business level.Scott_P said:
A Brexiteer response to every difficult question posed thus far...Big_G_NorthWales said:The Irish border does not concern me
But it doesn't concern me. Whatever happens, happens. We will adopt, adapt and improve.0 -
You'd have to find someone who could ride a horse first.Alistair said:
We could build a monument to celebrate whoever signed the papers.GeoffM said:
Selling 30,000 people?foxinsoxuk said:
We can resolve that quite easily by using Gibraltar as payment in kind for the EU bill.GeoffM said:
Gibraltar-SpainBlue_rog said:
???????GeoffM said:
Actually it's one of the Brexit questions closest to my heart as I live in sight of the other, forgotten, land border between GB and an EU state. The current and future border solution here affects every day of my life both on a personal and business level.Scott_P said:
A Brexiteer response to every difficult question posed thus far...Big_G_NorthWales said:The Irish border does not concern me
But it doesn't concern me. Whatever happens, happens. We will adopt, adapt and improve.
I obviously already had you down as a traitor ... but not as a slave-trader too.
It's not a proper statue unless its a bloke on a horse.0 -
Tad of an exaggeration.GeoffM said:
Selling 30,000 people?foxinsoxuk said:
We can resolve that quite easily by using Gibraltar as payment in kind for the EU bill.GeoffM said:
Gibraltar-SpainBlue_rog said:
???????GeoffM said:
Actually it's one of the Brexit questions closest to my heart as I live in sight of the other, forgotten, land border between GB and an EU state. The current and future border solution here affects every day of my life both on a personal and business level.Scott_P said:
A Brexiteer response to every difficult question posed thus far...Big_G_NorthWales said:The Irish border does not concern me
But it doesn't concern me. Whatever happens, happens. We will adopt, adapt and improve.
I obviously already had you down as a traitor ... but not as a slave-trader too.
When I think of America and the slave trade I think of the transatlantic slaves. I don't think anyone ever refers to the Louisiana Purchase from the French or the purchase of Alaska from the Russians as "slavery".0 -
So it will reach a point where one of Pragmatists, Hardliners, DUP or Government folds as a result of irreconcilable differences.HYUFD said:
Are they? Tory backbenchers and the DUP control what the government can actually do in reality given the hung parliamentfoxinsoxuk said:
That is how this government collapses, when either a faction of the Tories or the DUP realise that they are being sold down the river.HYUFD said:
No we won't, there is no way any Tory PM would last 5 seconds longer if they contemplated giving up Gibraltar not to mention the Gibraltarians would be furiousfoxinsoxuk said:
We can resolve that quite easily by using Gibraltar as payment in kind for the EU bill.GeoffM said:
Gibraltar-SpainBlue_rog said:
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Actually it's one of the Brexit questions closest to my heart as I live in sight of the other, forgotten, land border between GB and an EU state. The current and future border solution here affects every day of my life both on a personal and business level.Scott_P said:
A Brexiteer response to every difficult question posed thus far...Big_G_NorthWales said:The Irish border does not concern me
But it doesn't concern me. Whatever happens, happens. We will adopt, adapt and improve.
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No as the government can only do anything with all the above on board. In any case once Brexit is done by mid 2019 Davis or Boris will take over from May and there will be a general election within a yearfoxinsoxuk said:
So it will reach a point where one of Pragmatists, Hardliners, DUP or Government folds as a result of irreconcilable differences.HYUFD said:
Are they? Tory backbenchers and the DUP control what the government can actually do in reality given the hung parliamentfoxinsoxuk said:
That is how this government collapses, when either a faction of the Tories or the DUP realise that they are being sold down the river.HYUFD said:
No we won't, there is no way any Tory PM would last 5 seconds longer if they contemplated giving up Gibraltar not to mention the Gibraltarians would be furiousfoxinsoxuk said:
We can resolve that quite easily by using Gibraltar as payment in kind for the EU bill.GeoffM said:
Gibraltar-SpainBlue_rog said:
???????GeoffM said:
Actually it's one of the Brexit questions closest to my heart as I live in sight of the other, forgotten, land border between GB and an EU state. The current and future border solution here affects every day of my life both on a personal and business level.Scott_P said:
A Brexiteer response to every difficult question posed thus far...Big_G_NorthWales said:The Irish border does not concern me
But it doesn't concern me. Whatever happens, happens. We will adopt, adapt and improve.
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I don't think 'Baron' Duncan is of a pay grade to be signing anything very much, but he could play the part of the horse quite convincingly.GeoffM said:
You'd have to find someone who could ride a horse first.Alistair said:
We could build a monument to celebrate whoever signed the papers.GeoffM said:
Selling 30,000 people?foxinsoxuk said:
We can resolve that quite easily by using Gibraltar as payment in kind for the EU bill.GeoffM said:
Gibraltar-SpainBlue_rog said:
???????GeoffM said:
Actually it's one of the Brexit questions closest to my heart as I live in sight of the other, forgotten, land border between GB and an EU state. The current and future border solution here affects every day of my life both on a personal and business level.Scott_P said:
A Brexiteer response to every difficult question posed thus far...Big_G_NorthWales said:The Irish border does not concern me
But it doesn't concern me. Whatever happens, happens. We will adopt, adapt and improve.
I obviously already had you down as a traitor ... but not as a slave-trader too.
It's not a proper statue unless its a bloke on a horse.
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When the government gets so gridlocked we get the default car crash WTO Brexit, with consequences for the survival of the Tory coalition.HYUFD said:
No as the government can only do anything with all the above on board. In any case once Brexit is done by mid 2019 Davis or Boris will take over from May and there will be a general election within a yearfoxinsoxuk said:
So it will reach a point where one of Pragmatists, Hardliners, DUP or Government folds as a result of irreconcilable differences.HYUFD said:
Are they? Tory backbenchers and the DUP control what the government can actually do in reality given the hung parliamentfoxinsoxuk said:
That is how this government collapses, when either a faction of the Tories or the DUP realise that they are being sold down the river.HYUFD said:
No we won't, there is no way any Tory PM would last 5 seconds longer if they contemplated giving up Gibraltar not to mention the Gibraltarians would be furiousfoxinsoxuk said:
We can resolve that quite easily by using Gibraltar as payment in kind for the EU bill.GeoffM said:
Gibraltar-SpainBlue_rog said:
???????GeoffM said:
Actually it's one of the Brexit questions closest to my heart as I live in sight of the other, forgotten, land border between GB and an EU state. The current and future border solution here affects every day of my life both on a personal and business level.Scott_P said:
A Brexiteer response to every difficult question posed thus far...Big_G_NorthWales said:The Irish border does not concern me
But it doesn't concern me. Whatever happens, happens. We will adopt, adapt and improve.
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Even if that did occur the consequences would not be fully felt until well into 2020 by which time the new Tory leader will have called and held a general election anywayfoxinsoxuk said:
When the government gets so gridlocked we get the default car crash WTO Brexit, with consequences for the survival of the Tory coalition.HYUFD said:
No as the government can only do anything with all the above on board. In any case once Brexit is done by mid 2019 Davis or Boris will take over from May and there will be a general election within a yearfoxinsoxuk said:
So it will reach a point where one of Pragmatists, Hardliners, DUP or Government folds as a result of irreconcilable differences.HYUFD said:
Are they? Tory backbenchers and the DUP control what the government can actually do in reality given the hung parliamentfoxinsoxuk said:
That is how this government collapses, when either a faction of the Tories or the DUP realise that they are being sold down the river.HYUFD said:
No we won't, there is no way any Tory PM would last 5 seconds longer if they contemplated giving up Gibraltar not to mention the Gibraltarians would be furiousfoxinsoxuk said:
We can resolve that quite easily by using Gibraltar as payment in kind for the EU bill.GeoffM said:
Gibraltar-SpainBlue_rog said:
???????GeoffM said:
Actually it's one of the Brexit questions closest to my heart as I live in sight of the other, forgotten, land border between GB and an EU state. The current and future border solution here affects every day of my life both on a personal and business level.Scott_P said:
A Brexiteer response to every difficult question posed thus far...Big_G_NorthWales said:The Irish border does not concern me
But it doesn't concern me. Whatever happens, happens. We will adopt, adapt and improve.
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Little noticed fact that there are White cliffs on the other side of the Channel too. Geology is another Part of our shared European Heritage.philiph said:
Why is the brexit lorry heading over the white cliffs towards mainland Europe? A confused cartoon.Scott_P said:https://twitter.com/george_osborne/status/901027556295667712
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Amina Lone, Muslim Labour councillor and MP candidate who stood up for Sarah Champion, deselected by the party.
Do Labour really see cultural sensitivity as more important than child abuse?
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The ones on the French side are dotted with German bunkers from Operation Todt. We had to fight our way through them to liberate France from the Germans.Monksfield said:
Little noticed fact that there are White cliffs on the other side of the Channel too. Geology is another Part of our shared European Heritage.philiph said:
Why is the brexit lorry heading over the white cliffs towards mainland Europe? A confused cartoon.Scott_P said:https://twitter.com/george_osborne/status/901027556295667712
@RochdaleHerald: UK completes trials of driverless government
That's another part of our shared European heritage.0 -
"What should Remainers therefore be doing?"
Emigrating and taking up citizenship of an EU country at the earliest possible opportunity, which for me should be in 2020.0