I have to admit this now: Corbyn has become a very good public speaker. 30 years ago, he was a shouting sloganizing speaker. Now he is more sedate and softer.
I suspect he has had a lot of media training recently.
Doesn't change what he is though.
It is more that he has been on the stump and at hustings for 24 months. He is match fit, while May is not.
Campaigning is Mr Corbyn's metier. It more in less defines what he is, and his career. A street corner orator. Very good at it. Speaker's Corner superstar, in another age.
National/parliamentary leader, working with international heavyweights to shape national and international events while keeping the people secure and well-fed? In wartime, maybe? Not so much. He is not even a parliamentarian like Foot or Benn Snr.
Ability to govern and govern well, and being willing to account for yourself honourably in and to Parliament, is far, far more important than pandering to crowds with sound and fury signifying nothing of any actual use to society.
JC is the dimmest person to ever aspire to political office. He's a fool, a street corner prankster, and very bad at pranks.
He cannot claim to have the qualities to govern, he cannot claim to have the attributes to run a sweet-shop.
He will pander to crowds, he will bow to threats, he will be weak when strength is required, and he will misrepresent and undermine our society at every step.
I do not know of someone less suited to be PM. (Perhaps David Icke)
An interesting bit of politicking from Germany. Their election is shortly due. Sounds more like the Brexit election than our own.
She's miles ahead in the polls and stratospherically popular. To Germans she's just stating the obvious.
She's right as well, isn't she?
Yep. The western world is realigning. The Anglosphere and the EU. It should always have been thus.
USA, Canada, Oz, UK, NZ - and the EU.
Having spent a lot of time with Australians, I think you'd find them now more likely to join an Asian free trade zone than a US or UK led one. Asian countries account for more than 60% of their exports, and are growing fast. The US expects you to keep your intellectual property law in lock step with it, and gives US based ISDS tribunals the right to overrule local law.
New Zealand too. Their lamb is Halal and exported to the Middle East, their dairy to China.
We buy some of their wine, but have little interest in their other exports.
Will he have won? Or will he suddenly feel threatened as the Germans, and others, are now able to flex their military muscles?
I'll be delighted if the EU is not dependent on the US for defence, and becomes and equal and capable partner. That's no threat, quite the opposite in fact, it would mean that NATO doesn't have all its eggs in one basket.
I have to admit this now: Corbyn has become a very good public speaker. 30 years ago, he was a shouting sloganizing speaker. Now he is more sedate and softer.
I suspect he has had a lot of media training recently.
Doesn't change what he is though.
It is more that he has been on the stump and at hustings for 24 months. He is match fit, while May is not.
Campaigning is Mr Corbyn's metier. It more in less defines what he is, and his career. A street corner orator. Very good at it. Speaker's Corner superstar, in another age.
National/parliamentary leader, working with international heavyweights to shape national and international events while keeping the people secure and well-fed? In wartime, maybe? Not so much. He is not even a parliamentarian like Foot or Benn Snr.
Ability to govern and govern well, and being willing to account for yourself honourably in and to Parliament, is far, far more important than pandering to crowds with sound and fury signifying nothing of any actual use to society.
JC is the dimmest person to ever aspire to political office. He's a fool, a street corner prankster, and very bad at pranks.
He cannot claim to have the qualities to govern, he cannot claim to have the attributes to run a sweet-shop.
He will pander to crowds, he will bow to threats, he will be weak when strength is required, and he will misrepresent and undermine our society at every step.
I do not know of someone less suited to be PM. (Perhaps David Icke)
....and yet otherwise sensible people flock to be his apologists (see evidence of that on this very site). I just don't get it. No Tory I know would consider supporting a terrorist sympathiser as their leader. Maybe the Labour brain is wired differently, I don't know, but they seem to specialise in moral dissonance. Their detestation of international Jewry is another example of this.
An interesting bit of politicking from Germany. Their election is shortly due. Sounds more like the Brexit election than our own.
She's miles ahead in the polls and stratospherically popular. To Germans she's just stating the obvious.
She's right as well, isn't she?
Yep. The western world is realigning. The Anglosphere and the EU. It should always have been thus.
USA, Canada, Oz, UK, NZ - and the EU.
Having spent a lot of time with Australians, I think you'd find them now more likely to join an Asian free trade zone than a US or UK led one. Asian countries account for more than 60% of their exports, and are growing fast. The US expects you to keep your intellectual property law in lock step with it, and gives US based ISDS tribunals the right to overrule local law.
New Zealand too. Their lamb is Halal and exported to the Middle East, their dairy to China.
We buy some of their wine, but have little interest in their other exports.
thats because of the CAP
We are lamb exporters too. 60% of our lamb is exported to the EU.
I have a question. Does anybody know where I can find an archive of leader ratings? If it was polling intention I could get it from Wikipedia or Anthony Wells's site, but I don'y know where to look for leader ratings
I have to admit this now: Corbyn has become a very good public speaker. 30 years ago, he was a shouting sloganizing speaker. Now he is more sedate and softer.
But, if your record is a shitshow, it doesn't matter how articulate you are.
I have a question. Does anybody know where I can find an archive of leader ratings? If it was polling intention I could get it from Wikipedia or Anthony Wells's site, but I don'y know where to look for leader ratings
An interesting bit of politicking from Germany. Their election is shortly due. Sounds more like the Brexit election than our own.
She's miles ahead in the polls and stratospherically popular. To Germans she's just stating the obvious.
She's right as well, isn't she?
Yep. The western world is realigning. The Anglosphere and the EU. It should always have been thus.
USA, Canada, Oz, UK, NZ - and the EU.
Having spent a lot of time with Australians, I think you'd find them now more likely to join an Asian free trade zone than a US or UK led one. Asian countries account for more than 60% of their exports, and are growing fast. The US expects you to keep your intellectual property law in lock step with it, and gives US based ISDS tribunals the right to overrule local law.
New Zealand too. Their lamb is Halal and exported to the Middle East, their dairy to China.
We buy some of their wine, but have little interest in their other exports.
thats because of the CAP
We are lamb exporters too. 60% of our lamb is exported to the EU.
I have a question. Does anybody know where I can find an archive of leader ratings? If it was polling intention I could get it from Wikipedia or Anthony Wells's site, but I don'y know where to look for leader ratings
Maybe she is actually knowledgeable? Just not quick witted?
I know This Week isn't that much of a guide but when she regularly appeared on there up to a few years ago she was quick-witted, knowledgeable and a fair match for Portillo and Andrew Neil. 2017 has been disastrous for her starting with the infamous missed vote a couple of months ago. What is it - drink, an unspecified illness I don't know but even the Corbynistas must realise she's a massive liability. Amber Rudd knocked spots off her shortly afterwards
Totally agree she seems different to her appearances on This week .In a boxing match you would throw the towel in to stop further punishment .I hope she is ok but as you say it reminds me of Charles Kennedy when the Lib Dems asked him to stand down.
You can always tell when she's struggling .... the speech slows and the eyeballs go skywards.
Perhaps its delayed shock from sending her children to private school.
An interesting bit of politicking from Germany. Their election is shortly due. Sounds more like the Brexit election than our own.
She's miles ahead in the polls and stratospherically popular. To Germans she's just stating the obvious.
She's right as well, isn't she?
Yep. The western world is realigning. The Anglosphere and the EU. It should always have been thus.
USA, Canada, Oz, UK, NZ - and the EU.
Having spent a lot of time with Australians, I think you'd find them now more likely to join an Asian free trade zone than a US or UK led one. Asian countries account for more than 60% of their exports, and are growing fast. The US expects you to keep your intellectual property law in lock step with it, and gives US based ISDS tribunals the right to overrule local law.
New Zealand too. Their lamb is Halal and exported to the Middle East, their dairy to China.
We buy some of their wine, but have little interest in their other exports.
thats because of the CAP
We are lamb exporters too. 60% of our lamb is exported to the EU.
and 40% isnt and we consume most of it ourselves
Do you think that we should put the Welsh hill farmers out of business by importing cheap NZ lamb?
TSE, it is now too late for Labour to hide Diane Abbott. The damage is done. The country knows that she is Home Secretary a week Friday. She is a live example of the judgement of Jeremy Corbyn. She would no doubt be a key player in our discussions with the EU on crime and security. I am worried already at the prospects for our country if JC leads the negotiations. It seems to me that the only negotiation that he has conducted recently is with Iranian state TV on his appearance fees. If I picture DA at his side opposite Mrs Merkel then I will not sleep for the next two years.
An interesting bit of politicking from Germany. Their election is shortly due. Sounds more like the Brexit election than our own.
She's miles ahead in the polls and stratospherically popular. To Germans she's just stating the obvious.
She's right as well, isn't she?
Yep. The western world is realigning. The Anglosphere and the EU. It should always have been thus.
USA, Canada, Oz, UK, NZ - and the EU.
Having spent a lot of time with Australians, I think you'd find them now more likely to join an Asian free trade zone than a US or UK led one. Asian countries account for more than 60% of their exports, and are growing fast. The US expects you to keep your intellectual property law in lock step with it, and gives US based ISDS tribunals the right to overrule local law.
Merkel isn't talking about trade, she's talking about security, clearly. And there she's right. It's us and them, and always was. Friendly but not entirely linked.
Trade between the free liberal democracies of the West will continue largely as before.
Relatedly, this is a great piece on Brexit by the new Canadian conservative leader, Andrew Scheer. Written four days before the vote.
I Really wanted to vote labour but I can't vote for those3 at top of the party.
I'm 99.9% sure that's not Jezza. If it is, he's finished. But it isn't.
Who is it if it's not the venerable Corbyn?
I can't tell if it is him or not - I thought it looked familiar, but who can say definitively? It's certainly not like SeanT is a wavering Corbyn fan looking for a way to exonerate him.
An interesting bit of politicking from Germany. Their election is shortly due. Sounds more like the Brexit election than our own.
She's miles ahead in the polls and stratospherically popular. To Germans she's just stating the obvious.
She's right as well, isn't she?
Yep. The western world is realigning. The Anglosphere and the EU. It should always have been thus.
USA, Canada, Oz, UK, NZ - and the EU.
Having spent a lot of time with Australians, I think you'd find them now more likely to join an Asian free trade zone than a US or UK led one. Asian countries account for more than 60% of their exports, and are growing fast. The US expects you to keep your intellectual property law in lock step with it, and gives US based ISDS tribunals the right to overrule local law.
New Zealand too. Their lamb is Halal and exported to the Middle East, their dairy to China.
We buy some of their wine, but have little interest in their other exports.
thats because of the CAP
We are lamb exporters too. 60% of our lamb is exported to the EU.
and 40% isnt and we consume most of it ourselves
Do you think that we should put the Welsh hill farmers out of business by importing cheap NZ lamb?
we import high cut ends out of season, you might as well say should we put UK pork farmers out of business because we import cheap shit from Poland who dont have our welfare standards
"Reliable" seems to mean being in an organisation which has aims that we oppose and biting our tongue. If that's what Merkel means she is right, and I'm delighted we are unreliable and the more unreliable the better.
The correct response to being called "unreliable" by Merkel is, So now you know how Stalin felt in '41.
I Really wanted to vote labour but I can't vote for those3 at top of the party.
I'm 99.9% sure that's not Jezza. If it is, he's finished. But it isn't.
120% sure that is not Corbyn. This is desperation stuff. It proves one thing. The Tories have lost the campaign. Why are they not talking about their manifesto ? Maybe they have not got anything to talk about.
A big day for the Tories today ..... you just sense it. Even a number of Labour's heavyweight regular posters on PB.com have been conspicuous by their absence pretty much all day. Another two or three days like this one and it'll be all over bar the shouting I reckon.
I Really wanted to vote labour but I can't vote for those3 at top of the party.
I'm 99.9% sure that's not Jezza. If it is, he's finished. But it isn't.
Who is it if it's not the venerable Corbyn?
It's a blurry pic, and he has a face a bit like Corbyn's, and a very similar beard, but everyone had a beard like that in those days.
To me this character looks too short to be Corbyn and, perhaps more importantly, I don't think even Gelignite "Jez" Corbyn would have gone to an IRA military funeral with the full Armalite salute.
An interesting bit of politicking from Germany. Their election is shortly due. Sounds more like the Brexit election than our own.
She's miles ahead in the polls and stratospherically popular. To Germans she's just stating the obvious.
She's right as well, isn't she?
Yep. The western world is realigning. The Anglosphere and the EU. It should always have been thus.
USA, Canada, Oz, UK, NZ - and the EU.
Having spent a lot of time with Australians, I think you'd find them now more likely to join an Asian free trade zone than a US or UK led one. Asian countries account for more than 60% of their exports, and are growing fast. The US expects you to keep your intellectual property law in lock step with it, and gives US based ISDS tribunals the right to overrule local law.
New Zealand too. Their lamb is Halal and exported to the Middle East, their dairy to China.
We buy some of their wine, but have little interest in their other exports.
thats because of the CAP
We are lamb exporters too. 60% of our lamb is exported to the EU.
and 40% isnt and we consume most of it ourselves
Do you think that we should put the Welsh hill farmers out of business by importing cheap NZ lamb?
I Really wanted to vote labour but I can't vote for those3 at top of the party.
I'm 99.9% sure that's not Jezza. If it is, he's finished. But it isn't.
120% sure that is not Corbyn. This is desperation stuff. It proves one thing. The Tories have lost the campaign. Why are they not talking about their manifesto ? Maybe they have not got anything to talk about.
Just looking at twitter feeds and other commentaries on the web, it really seems that the IRA stuff is gaining traction with the electorate. Is this a turning point after the weeks of a Labour surge? The polls began to change in 1992 just 10 days out from the election. Was Diane Abbot's appearance on the Andrew Marr show the 2017 Sheffield moment?
A big day for the Tories today ..... you just sense it. Even a number of Labour's heavyweight regular posters on PB.com have been conspicuous by their absence pretty much all day. Another two or three days like this one and it'll be all over bar the shouting I reckon.
You can tell it's bad when they are asking to borrow the Tories' Pampers.....
I Really wanted to vote labour but I can't vote for those3 at top of the party.
I'm 99.9% sure that's not Jezza. If it is, he's finished. But it isn't.
Who is it if it's not the venerable Corbyn?
It's a blurry pic, and he has a face a bit like Corbyn's, and a very similar beard, but everyone had a beard like that in those days.
To me this character looks too short to be Corbyn and, perhaps more importantly, I don't think even Gelignite "Jez" Corbyn would have gone to an IRA military funeral with the full Armalite salute.
I Really wanted to vote labour but I can't vote for those3 at top of the party.
I'm 99.9% sure that's not Jezza. If it is, he's finished. But it isn't.
Who is it if it's not the venerable Corbyn?
It's a blurry pic, and he has a face a bit like Corbyn's, and a very similar beard, but everyone had a beard like that in those days.
To me this character looks too short to be Corbyn and, perhaps more importantly, I don't think even Gelignite "Jez" Corbyn would have gone to an IRA military funeral with the full Armalite salute.
A big day for the Tories today ..... you just sense it. Even a number of Labour's heavyweight regular posters on PB.com have been conspicuous by their absence pretty much all day. Another two or three days like this one and it'll be all over bar the shouting I reckon.
Eh, some Tory nerves were settled by a reasonable set of polls yesterday, and some have been cheered by the IRA video and Abbott, but it all seems very fragile.
Corbyn should attend the 7-way, leaving May the only one too scared to attend (Sturgeon is different, she is not seeking to win a seat so it makes sense)
Just looking at twitter feeds and other commentaries on the web, it really seems that the IRA stuff is gaining traction with the electorate. Is this a turning point after the weeks of a Labour surge? The polls began to change in 1992 just 10 days out from the election. Was Diane Abbot's appearance on the Andrew Marr show the 2017 Sheffield moment?
I Really wanted to vote labour but I can't vote for those3 at top of the party.
I'm 99.9% sure that's not Jezza. If it is, he's finished. But it isn't.
That is the funeral of Bobby Sands in 1981 (just out of interest, as it doesn't really help us on the jezza ID question).
I don't think it is Jeremy Corbyn.
But keep looking. (Actually, if he ever was at one of these funerals, there will be some hi-res shots that 5 will handily make available a week tomorrow....)
Who gives a flying fuck what the sausage-eaters think or care. They will still want to sell us their cars, we will still want to sell them our whatever-it-is-we-make. Free trade will resume after the blip.
They want to be in a Federal EU, we don't. Enough. We're out. We can now be chatty and amiable neighbours, and wave to each other in the morning, over the garden wall, and maybe even go to each other's barbecues.
The English-speaking nations are our family. We squabble, but the blood ties are real, and deep.
Yes for once I agree with the broad thrust of your comments. The whole point of Camerons failed attempt was that we did not want to be part of ever closer federal union. The lib dems do but they have already shown there are no lengths they will run to to avoid government. Equally I agree we should govern ourselves to suit ourselves and nor worry about others. They must do whatvthey want. However that does not mean we should not sign treaties and be loyal allies. But yes, we should let the other party worry and pursue what we believe to be right.
Watched a few videos on YouTube earlier and some of them had Conservative ads mentioning Corbyn and the IRA just before playing the video. Though I know zero about how the add system works on there, what adds are selected.
Just looking at twitter feeds and other commentaries on the web, it really seems that the IRA stuff is gaining traction with the electorate. Is this a turning point after the weeks of a Labour surge? The polls began to change in 1992 just 10 days out from the election. Was Diane Abbot's appearance on the Andrew Marr show the 2017 Sheffield moment?
Do you know anyone who votes Labour ?
Very likely. He was Corbyn's constituency secretary.
An interesting bit of politicking from Germany. Their election is shortly due. Sounds more like the Brexit election than our own.
She's miles ahead in the polls and stratospherically popular. To Germans she's just stating the obvious.
She's right as well, isn't she?
Yep. The western world is realigning. The Anglosphere and the EU. It should always have been thus.
USA, Canada, Oz, UK, NZ - and the EU.
Having spent a lot of time with Australians, I think you'd find them now more likely to join an Asian free trade zone than a US or UK led one. Asian countries account for more than 60% of their exports, and are growing fast. The US expects you to keep your intellectual property law in lock step with it, and gives US based ISDS tribunals the right to overrule local law.
Merkel isn't talking about trade, she's talking about security, clearly. And there she's right. It's us and them, and always was. Friendly but not entirely linked.
Trade between the free liberal democracies of the West will continue largely as before.
Relatedly, this is a great piece on Brexit by the new Canadian conservative leader, Andrew Scheer. Written four days before the vote.
Your mistake is to think that the interests of the Anglosphere are aligned.
Canada sends most of its exports to the US, the US to Canada and Mexico, the UK to the US and EU, Australia to China and Japan, New Zealand to Australia and China but they all share a language, culture, legal and political system and with the exception of the US, a monarch
Watched a few videos on YouTube earlier and some of them had Conservative ads mentioning Corbyn and the IRA just before playing the video. Though I know zero about how the add system works on there, what adds are selected.
I think it uses your browsing history to tailor ads for you, so if they see you visiting sites like this (based on a cookie stored on your computer) they will offer up more political ads.
Much merriment was had when some poster a while ago was asking why they kept seeing Russian bride ads here on PB.
Just looking at twitter feeds and other commentaries on the web, it really seems that the IRA stuff is gaining traction with the electorate. Is this a turning point after the weeks of a Labour surge? The polls began to change in 1992 just 10 days out from the election. Was Diane Abbot's appearance on the Andrew Marr show the 2017 Sheffield moment?
Do you know anyone who votes Labour ?
Very likely. He was Corbyn's constituency secretary.
Just looking at twitter feeds and other commentaries on the web, it really seems that the IRA stuff is gaining traction with the electorate. Is this a turning point after the weeks of a Labour surge? The polls began to change in 1992 just 10 days out from the election. Was Diane Abbot's appearance on the Andrew Marr show the 2017 Sheffield moment?
Do you know anyone who votes Labour ?
Well, I know Corbyn pretty well. I was in his Islington North Labour Party for 10 years -and his support for violent Republicanism sickened me even then. But I never thought for a moment he would advance from the wilderness of the extreme left to the Labour leadership. Now his past his returning to haunt him, justifiably.
I Really wanted to vote labour but I can't vote for those3 at top of the party.
I'm 99.9% sure that's not Jezza. If it is, he's finished. But it isn't.
That is the funeral of Bobby Sands in 1981 (just out of interest, as it doesn't really help us on the jezza ID question).
I don't think it is Jeremy Corbyn.
But keep looking. (Actually, if he ever was at one of these funerals, there will be some hi-res shots that 5 will handily make available a week tomorrow....)
Listen, Corbyn made it clear he never met the IRA. Of course, he was drawing a line between the IRA and Sinn Fein. If the IRA and Sinn Fein were the same, why didn't the British government ban it ?
Sinn Fein will soon provide the First Minister in Northern Ireland. Get ready for it.
Just looking at twitter feeds and other commentaries on the web, it really seems that the IRA stuff is gaining traction with the electorate. Is this a turning point after the weeks of a Labour surge? The polls began to change in 1992 just 10 days out from the election. Was Diane Abbot's appearance on the Andrew Marr show the 2017 Sheffield moment?
Do you know anyone who votes Labour ?
Well, I know Corbyn pretty well. I was in his Islington North Labour Party for 10 years -and his support for violent Republicanism sickened me even then.
Well, that stock rebuttal backfired pretty spectacularly.
Just looking at twitter feeds and other commentaries on the web, it really seems that the IRA stuff is gaining traction with the electorate. Is this a turning point after the weeks of a Labour surge? The polls began to change in 1992 just 10 days out from the election. Was Diane Abbot's appearance on the Andrew Marr show the 2017 Sheffield moment?
Do you know anyone who votes Labour ?
Well, I know Corbyn pretty well. I was in his Islington North Labour Party for 10 years -and his support for violent Republicanism sickened me even then. But I never thought for a moment he would advance from the wilderness of the extreme left to the Labour leadership. Now his past his returning to haunt him, justifiably.
Watched a few videos on YouTube earlier and some of them had Conservative ads mentioning Corbyn and the IRA just before playing the video. Though I know zero about how the add system works on there, what adds are selected.
I think it uses your browsing history to tailor ads for you, so if they see you visiting sites like this (based on a cookie stored on your computer) they will offer up more political ads.
Much merriment was had when some poster a while ago was asking why they kept seeing Russian bride ads here on PB.
Just looking at twitter feeds and other commentaries on the web, it really seems that the IRA stuff is gaining traction with the electorate. Is this a turning point after the weeks of a Labour surge? The polls began to change in 1992 just 10 days out from the election. Was Diane Abbot's appearance on the Andrew Marr show the 2017 Sheffield moment?
Do you know anyone who votes Labour ?
Well, I know Corbyn pretty well. I was in his Islington North Labour Party for 10 years -and his support for violent Republicanism sickened me even then. But I never thought for a moment he would advance from the wilderness of the extreme left to the Labour leadership. Now his past his returning to haunt him, justifiably.
I don't think so. No one gives a shit outside the Alt-Right. In the meantime, Theresa May shakes hand with the Saudi ruling family, the financier of Islamist terrorism and provides arms to them.
I Really wanted to vote labour but I can't vote for those3 at top of the party.
I'm 99.9% sure that's not Jezza. If it is, he's finished. But it isn't.
120% sure that is not Corbyn. This is desperation stuff. It proves one thing. The Tories have lost the campaign. Why are they not talking about their manifesto ? Maybe they have not got anything to talk about.
Interesting, did Labour talk about their manifesto in 1997 or 2001 or even 2005 at this stage in a campaign? No, Labour were entirely focused on the negative part of any strategy a political party in front does at this stage. In the past Labour went on about the Tories/ No more boom and bust and the like. For this campaign the Tories will go on about IRA/Unilateral Nuclear disarmament/ Soft on terrorists / Brexit and any one of the most embarrassing hostages to fortune that Corbyn has uttered. You mention the campaign being won by Labour but given the headlines everyday is that really the case? Then ultimately the difference between the air war and what happens on the ground. I don't think Corbyn will ever be judged a winner do you?
Just looking at twitter feeds and other commentaries on the web, it really seems that the IRA stuff is gaining traction with the electorate. Is this a turning point after the weeks of a Labour surge? The polls began to change in 1992 just 10 days out from the election. Was Diane Abbot's appearance on the Andrew Marr show the 2017 Sheffield moment?
Do you know anyone who votes Labour ?
Well, I know Corbyn pretty well. I was in his Islington North Labour Party for 10 years -and his support for violent Republicanism sickened me even then. But I never thought for a moment he would advance from the wilderness of the extreme left to the Labour leadership. Now his past his returning to haunt him, justifiably.
Just looking at twitter feeds and other commentaries on the web, it really seems that the IRA stuff is gaining traction with the electorate. Is this a turning point after the weeks of a Labour surge? The polls began to change in 1992 just 10 days out from the election. Was Diane Abbot's appearance on the Andrew Marr show the 2017 Sheffield moment?
Do you know anyone who votes Labour ?
Very likely. He was Corbyn's constituency secretary.
CCHQ are as we speak probably trawling through every photographic souce they can get their hands on to see if they can pin Corbyn to an IRA funeral or commemoration. God help Labour if they are successful.
Just looking at twitter feeds and other commentaries on the web, it really seems that the IRA stuff is gaining traction with the electorate. Is this a turning point after the weeks of a Labour surge? The polls began to change in 1992 just 10 days out from the election. Was Diane Abbot's appearance on the Andrew Marr show the 2017 Sheffield moment?
Do you know anyone who votes Labour ?
Well, I know Corbyn pretty well. I was in his Islington North Labour Party for 10 years -and his support for violent Republicanism sickened me even then. But I never thought for a moment he would advance from the wilderness of the extreme left to the Labour leadership. Now his past his returning to haunt him, justifiably.
I Really wanted to vote labour but I can't vote for those3 at top of the party.
I'm 99.9% sure that's not Jezza. If it is, he's finished. But it isn't.
That is the funeral of Bobby Sands in 1981 (just out of interest, as it doesn't really help us on the jezza ID question).
I don't think it is Jeremy Corbyn.
But keep looking. (Actually, if he ever was at one of these funerals, there will be some hi-res shots that 5 will handily make available a week tomorrow....)
Listen, Corbyn made it clear he never met the IRA. Of course, he was drawing a line between the IRA and Sinn Fein. If the IRA and Sinn Fein were the same, why didn't the British government ban it ?
Sinn Fein will soon provide the First Minister in Northern Ireland. Get ready for it.
I Really wanted to vote labour but I can't vote for those3 at top of the party.
I'm 99.9% sure that's not Jezza. If it is, he's finished. But it isn't.
That is the funeral of Bobby Sands in 1981 (just out of interest, as it doesn't really help us on the jezza ID question).
I don't think it is Jeremy Corbyn.
But keep looking. (Actually, if he ever was at one of these funerals, there will be some hi-res shots that 5 will handily make available a week tomorrow....)
Listen, Corbyn made it clear he never met the IRA. Of course, he was drawing a line between the IRA and Sinn Fein. If the IRA and Sinn Fein were the same, why didn't the British government ban it ?
Sinn Fein will soon provide the First Minister in Northern Ireland. Get ready for it.
Watched a few videos on YouTube earlier and some of them had Conservative ads mentioning Corbyn and the IRA just before playing the video. Though I know zero about how the add system works on there, what adds are selected.
I think it uses your browsing history to tailor ads for you, so if they see you visiting sites like this (based on a cookie stored on your computer) they will offer up more political ads.
Much merriment was had when some poster a while ago was asking why they kept seeing Russian bride ads here on PB.
Oh that is hilarious
Irritating more like - I was searching for Ukrainian brides.
I Really wanted to vote labour but I can't vote for those3 at top of the party.
I'm 99.9% sure that's not Jezza. If it is, he's finished. But it isn't.
That is the funeral of Bobby Sands in 1981 (just out of interest, as it doesn't really help us on the jezza ID question).
I don't think it is Jeremy Corbyn.
But keep looking. (Actually, if he ever was at one of these funerals, there will be some hi-res shots that 5 will handily make available a week tomorrow....)
Listen, Corbyn made it clear he never met the IRA. Of course, he was drawing a line between the IRA and Sinn Fein. If the IRA and Sinn Fein were the same, why didn't the British government ban it ?
Sinn Fein will soon provide the First Minister in Northern Ireland. Get ready for it.
So it is the British Govt's fault that Corbyn was confused about who he was meeting with? LOL!
Just looking at twitter feeds and other commentaries on the web, it really seems that the IRA stuff is gaining traction with the electorate. Is this a turning point after the weeks of a Labour surge? The polls began to change in 1992 just 10 days out from the election. Was Diane Abbot's appearance on the Andrew Marr show the 2017 Sheffield moment?
Do you know anyone who votes Labour ?
Well, I know Corbyn pretty well. I was in his Islington North Labour Party for 10 years -and his support for violent Republicanism sickened me even then. But I never thought for a moment he would advance from the wilderness of the extreme left to the Labour leadership. Now his past his returning to haunt him, justifiably.
An interesting bit of politicking from Germany. Their election is shortly due. Sounds more like the Brexit election than our own.
She's miles ahead in the polls and stratospherically popular. To Germans she's just stating the obvious.
She's right as well, isn't she?
Yep. The western world is realigning. The Anglosphere and the EU. It should always have been thus.
USA, Canada, Oz, UK, NZ - and the EU.
Having spent a lot of time with Australians, I think you'd find them now more likely to join an Asian free trade zone than a US or UK led one. Asian countries account for more than 60% of their exports, and are growing fast. The US expects you to keep your intellectual property law in lock step with it, and gives US based ISDS tribunals the right to overrule local law.
New Zealand too. Their lamb is Halal and exported to the Middle East, their dairy to China.
We buy some of their wine, but have little interest in their other exports.
thats because of the CAP
We are lamb exporters too. 60% of our lamb is exported to the EU.
and 40% isnt and we consume most of it ourselves
Do you think that we should put the Welsh hill farmers out of business by importing cheap NZ lamb?
Why not ? They voted for Brexit.
Yep. Every single Welsh hill farmer voted for Brexit.
Just looking at twitter feeds and other commentaries on the web, it really seems that the IRA stuff is gaining traction with the electorate. Is this a turning point after the weeks of a Labour surge? The polls began to change in 1992 just 10 days out from the election. Was Diane Abbot's appearance on the Andrew Marr show the 2017 Sheffield moment?
Do you know anyone who votes Labour ?
Well, I know Corbyn pretty well. I was in his Islington North Labour Party for 10 years -and his support for violent Republicanism sickened me even then. But I never thought for a moment he would advance from the wilderness of the extreme left to the Labour leadership. Now his past his returning to haunt him, justifiably.
Just looking at twitter feeds and other commentaries on the web, it really seems that the IRA stuff is gaining traction with the electorate. Is this a turning point after the weeks of a Labour surge? The polls began to change in 1992 just 10 days out from the election. Was Diane Abbot's appearance on the Andrew Marr show the 2017 Sheffield moment?
Do you know anyone who votes Labour ?
Well, I know Corbyn pretty well. I was in his Islington North Labour Party for 10 years -and his support for violent Republicanism sickened me even then. But I never thought for a moment he would advance from the wilderness of the extreme left to the Labour leadership. Now his past his returning to haunt him, justifiably.
I don't think so. No one gives a shit outside the Alt-Right. In the meantime, Theresa May shakes hand with the Saudi ruling family, the financier of Islamist terrorism and provides arms to them.
Just looking at twitter feeds and other commentaries on the web, it really seems that the IRA stuff is gaining traction with the electorate. Is this a turning point after the weeks of a Labour surge? The polls began to change in 1992 just 10 days out from the election. Was Diane Abbot's appearance on the Andrew Marr show the 2017 Sheffield moment?
Do you know anyone who votes Labour ?
Well, I know Corbyn pretty well. I was in his Islington North Labour Party for 10 years -and his support for violent Republicanism sickened me even then. But I never thought for a moment he would advance from the wilderness of the extreme left to the Labour leadership. Now his past his returning to haunt him, justifiably.
I don't think so. No one gives a shit outside the Alt-Right. In the meantime, Theresa May shakes hand with the Saudi ruling family, the financier of Islamist terrorism and provides arms to them.
As you know I'm on record as thinking the IRA stuff won't harm Corbyn appreciably (we shall see though), but if you believe no one cares about that, surely no one cares about us providing arms to Saudi Arabia either? In fact a great deal less.
Just looking at twitter feeds and other commentaries on the web, it really seems that the IRA stuff is gaining traction with the electorate. Is this a turning point after the weeks of a Labour surge? The polls began to change in 1992 just 10 days out from the election. Was Diane Abbot's appearance on the Andrew Marr show the 2017 Sheffield moment?
Do you know anyone who votes Labour ?
Well, I know Corbyn pretty well. I was in his Islington North Labour Party for 10 years -and his support for violent Republicanism sickened me even then. But I never thought for a moment he would advance from the wilderness of the extreme left to the Labour leadership. Now his past his returning to haunt him, justifiably.
I'm going to stick my neck out here and hazard a guess that this post of yours is going to get quoted. A lot.
Congratulations. I think you've just gone down in electoral history.
An interesting bit of politicking from Germany. Their election is shortly due. Sounds more like the Brexit election than our own.
She's miles ahead in the polls and stratospherically popular. To Germans she's just stating the obvious.
She's right as well, isn't she?
Yep. The western world is realigning. The Anglosphere and the EU. It should always have been thus.
USA, Canada, Oz, UK, NZ - and the EU.
Having spent a lot of time with Australians, I think you'd find them now more likely to join an Asian free trade zone than a US or UK led one. Asian countries account for more than 60% of their exports, and are growing fast. The US expects you to keep your intellectual property law in lock step with it, and gives US based ISDS tribunals the right to overrule local law.
Merkel isn't talking about trade, she's talking about security, clearly. And there she's right. It's us and them, and always was. Friendly but not entirely linked.
Trade between the free liberal democracies of the West will continue largely as before.
Relatedly, this is a great piece on Brexit by the new Canadian conservative leader, Andrew Scheer. Written four days before the vote.
Your mistake is to think that the interests of the Anglosphere are aligned.
Canada sends most of its exports to the US, the US to Canada and Mexico, the UK to the US and EU, Australia to China and Japan, New Zealand to Australia and China but they all share a language, culture, legal and political system and with the exception of the US, a monarch
I didn't know China and Japan and us shared a language and a legal system. In fcat, I am not sure China has a legal system.
CCHQ are as we speak probably trawling through every photographic souce they can get their hands on to see if they can pin Corbyn to an IRA funeral or commemoration. God help Labour if they are successful.
Then Mrs May really is crap.
She should have this stuff already sourced before she called the election.
I Really wanted to vote labour but I can't vote for those3 at top of the party.
I'm 99.9% sure that's not Jezza. If it is, he's finished. But it isn't.
120% sure that is not Corbyn. This is desperation stuff. It proves one thing. The Tories have lost the campaign. Why are they not talking about their manifesto ? Maybe they have not got anything to talk about.
They haven't lost the campaign - they'll likely win - but what for?
May will probably have a bigger majority, but has lost the one opportunity she had to get a viable personal mandate, a mandate for her manifesto and a mandate for her brexit.
She'll very likely be knifed in the back (and front, and sides) before 2020.
CCHQ are as we speak probably trawling through every photographic souce they can get their hands on to see if they can pin Corbyn to an IRA funeral or commemoration. God help Labour if they are successful.
Then Mrs May really is crap.
He should have this stuff already sourced before she called the election.
No doubt this started the moment Corbyn became leader?
Just looking at twitter feeds and other commentaries on the web, it really seems that the IRA stuff is gaining traction with the electorate. Is this a turning point after the weeks of a Labour surge? The polls began to change in 1992 just 10 days out from the election. Was Diane Abbot's appearance on the Andrew Marr show the 2017 Sheffield moment?
Do you know anyone who votes Labour ?
Well, I know Corbyn pretty well. I was in his Islington North Labour Party for 10 years -and his support for violent Republicanism sickened me even then. But I never thought for a moment he would advance from the wilderness of the extreme left to the Labour leadership. Now his past his returning to haunt him, justifiably.
I don't think so. No one gives a shit outside the Alt-Right. In the meantime, Theresa May shakes hand with the Saudi ruling family, the financier of Islamist terrorism and provides arms to them.
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I Really wanted to vote labour but I can't vote for those3 at top of the party.
It's quite disturbing when you think about it.
I think we are heading for a lamb glut.
And, Corbyn's record is a shitshow.
https://www.ipsos.com/ipsos-mori/en-uk/social-trends
https://www.ipsos.com/ipsos-mori/en-uk/party-leaders
Your mistake is to think that the interests of the Anglosphere are aligned.
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/styles/story_medium/public/indy100/ZygEn9bkZUl/8569-1cxa0a7.jpg
but then youre cool with that
PMSL moment!
Even a number of Labour's heavyweight regular posters on PB.com have been conspicuous by their absence pretty much all day.
Another two or three days like this one and it'll be all over bar the shouting I reckon.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/05/19/20/046EE0BE0000044D-3087763-Denial_Gerry_Adams_pictured_carrying_the_coffin_of_IRA_hunger_st-a-30_1432064589141.jpg
https://twitter.com/Bhikkubodhi/status/868890966895284228
I do wonder if she falls under a missing category of officers outlined by Kurt von Hamerstein.
Corbyn should attend the 7-way, leaving May the only one too scared to attend (Sturgeon is different, she is not seeking to win a seat so it makes sense)
But keep looking. (Actually, if he ever was at one of these funerals, there will be some hi-res shots that 5 will handily make available a week tomorrow....)
https://twitter.com/politicshome/status/868926098377134080
The lib dems do but they have already shown there are no lengths they will run to to avoid government.
Equally I agree we should govern ourselves to suit ourselves and nor worry about others. They must do whatvthey want. However that does not mean we should not sign treaties and be loyal allies. But yes, we should let the other party worry and pursue what we believe to be right.
Much merriment was had when some poster a while ago was asking why they kept seeing Russian bride ads here on PB.
Sinn Fein will soon provide the First Minister in Northern Ireland. Get ready for it.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4549908/Jeremy-Corbyn-FINALLY-admits-met-IRA-members.html
Asked directly if he had met with convicted members of the IRA, he said he had.
As for Sinn Fein they did put on broadcasting restrictions. I suspect they thought banning might be a step too far.
Bloody earworms, I will now have "She'll be coming round the mountain when she comes" on repeat for the next 24 hours.
I'm going to stick my neck out here and hazard a guess that this post of yours is going to get quoted. A lot.
Congratulations. I think you've just gone down in electoral history.
She should have this stuff already sourced before she called the election.
May will probably have a bigger majority, but has lost the one opportunity she had to get a viable personal mandate, a mandate for her manifesto and a mandate for her brexit.
She'll very likely be knifed in the back (and front, and sides) before 2020.
Keep an eye on Dacre.
He's key.
There are plenty of other embarrassing meetings with IRA bombers to use though. No doubt this will come to a crescendo in the final week.