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There was an unintentionally funny bit on the radio this morning when Burnham said something like 'and in exactly the same way as London, Manchester will it its unique way show solidarity'.KentRising said:The banality/stupidity of assorted media.
"Mr Burnham, how are you going to get Manchester through this?"
Yeah, Manchester would be in complete disarray without its major. The eyes of the city are on him.
Deary me.0 -
Hahahaha, that's made me laugh out loud.williamglenn said:
Isn't the new acronym LGBTSE?TheScreamingEagles said:
I've seen Steps several times before, I won't be the only heterosexual chap there.FrancisUrquhart said:
I think you might be the only heterosexual male in the place :-)TheScreamingEagles said:On topic, I've spent so many nights in the MEN Arena, in fact some of the happiest nights of my life have been in there.
My next gig there is Steps featuring the Vengaboys in December,
I'm going, nobody is going to stop me seeing them.
(By the way, it's an initialism, not an acronym)0 -
You'd be pleasantly surprised.FrancisUrquhart said:
I meant from KISS -> Steps....I can't imagine there is a massive audience cross over.TheScreamingEagles said:
You've never lived until you've seen the Kiss Army in action.FrancisUrquhart said:
You certainly have a errhhhh shall we say an eclectic taste in music.TheScreamingEagles said:Actually I was meant to be seeing Kiss next Tuesday at the MEN Arena.
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God you really do have eclectic tastes...You have to be the only person in the world who would go to NIN one week, then Steps / VengaBoys the next.TheScreamingEagles said:
Nope, this is the greatest mash up in history.RobD said:
Got any Kiss/Steps mashups?TheScreamingEagles said:
You've never lived until you've seen the Kiss Army in action.FrancisUrquhart said:
You certainly have a errhhhh shall we say an eclectic taste in music.TheScreamingEagles said:Actually I was meant to be seeing Kiss next Tuesday at the MEN Arena.
The Nine Inch Nails vs Rick Astley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQLeNiNTtbc&list=RDfQLeNiNTtbc
(I also saw NIN back in 2014 at the arena too, on the night of the European Election results, so I've actually written PB threads from inside that arena)
NIN are very good though....0 -
Dates were generally moved earlier when the franchise was extended to larger numbers of ex pats. Nevertheless it's up to your council. Most are (or were) going out today or tomorrow. Some went out last week. I doubt any would have been earlier than last week, at all. Some, including those for late applicants, may go out later. 30th May seems very late and my bet is that yours will be sent out well before then - some councils use a "last mailing" date for publicity, to deter people from phoning up to complain they haven't received it yet, as tends to happen.partypoliticalorphan said:The thread header mentions postal votes landing this week and I'm sure many will.
However, the date range for receipt of postal vote papers at this election seems to be wider than I can ever remember. Some councils sent them out a week or more ago. In my council, my polling card informs me that my postal vote will not be sent until Tuesday 30th May.
This must make national campaign timetabling something of a nightmare.0 -
You supplied the baseload, they are supplying the peak demand. Think of yourself as a nuclear reactor, and they are the combined cycle gas turbines.tlg86 said:
Virtue signallers, the lot of them.TheScreamingEagles said:Makes you proud to be British
twitter.com/DanielHewittITV/status/866935412668989440
Between 2006 and 2014 I gave 26 pints of blood. I've stopped going because I became fed up with the jobsworths that run the sessions. I'm not in a position to book up in advance as I don't know if I'll be around on the day three months in advance. I don't mind waiting an hour to be done, but the people who run the sessions around where I live are so anal they just tell you to go away.
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The other is one of the male singers ....TheScreamingEagles said:
I've seen Steps several times before, I won't be the only heterosexual chap there.FrancisUrquhart said:
I think you might be the only heterosexual male in the place :-)TheScreamingEagles said:On topic, I've spent so many nights in the MEN Arena, in fact some of the happiest nights of my life have been in there.
My next gig there is Steps featuring the Vengaboys in December,
I'm going, nobody is going to stop me seeing them.0 -
That's unfair. They are actually doing something, at some cost to themselves. How useful it is I have no idea but you can't call it virtue signalling.tlg86 said:
Virtue signallers, the lot of them.TheScreamingEagles said:Makes you proud to be British
https://twitter.com/DanielHewittITV/status/866935412668989440
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Have I been rickrolled?TheScreamingEagles said:
Nope, this is the greatest mash up in history.RobD said:
Got any Kiss/Steps mashups?TheScreamingEagles said:
You've never lived until you've seen the Kiss Army in action.FrancisUrquhart said:
You certainly have a errhhhh shall we say an eclectic taste in music.TheScreamingEagles said:Actually I was meant to be seeing Kiss next Tuesday at the MEN Arena.
The Nine Inch Nails vs Rick Astley
www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQLeNiNTtbc&list=RDfQLeNiNTtbc
(I also saw NIN back in 2014 at the arena too, on the night of the European Election results, so I've actually written PB threads from inside that arena)
My favourite mashup is enya vs prodigy.. smack my bitch up/orinoco flow. 0 -
Agreed.Carolus_Rex said:
That's unfair. They are actually doing something, at some cost to themselves. How useful it is I have no idea but you can't call it virtue signalling.tlg86 said:
Virtue signallers, the lot of them.TheScreamingEagles said:Makes you proud to be British
https://twitter.com/DanielHewittITV/status/8669354126689894400 -
TSE....you know you said last night of the photo which I said I saw on twitter was a fake...I have just seen Daily Mail photos, I am not convinced it was, as it looks exactly the same (albeit a different angle).
I am not going to link either the twitter photo or the Daily Mail one as are horrific.
Edit:- Actually the Daily Mail are using the photo I saw on twitter now too.0 -
Not sure that it invalidates the point made though, if anything it confirms it.DecrepitJohnL said:
This is a bit different, though, as the use of explosives implies organisation and planning, almost certainly a wider conspiracy, and buying components or smuggling explosives. This is what MI5 ought to be able to keep an eye on. It's not just some lone nutter grabbing a knife out of the kitchen drawer on his way out.
To run a solid surveillance operation on one person takes about 16 people, per shift. That is, assuming 8 hour shifts and a 24/7 operation, 64 trained operatives per target. Then some of those need to have the not only the proper training but also the right credentials to follow the target into any location he/she may go. Finding and training enough people to do that is very difficult, for 850 targets it is impossible.
On top of that you need the technical specialists (planting bugs etc.) which are also not in plentiful supply. Plus you need another whole tier of analysts to make sense of the information coming in and some decision makers to decide what to do about it. Oh, and agent runners to recruit and manage informants (no small task on its own).
I think you are being over optimistic in saying that MI5 ought to be able to keep an eye on every conspiracy. Their resources are finite and judgements have to be made as to who to work on and who not to.0 -
Why don't they just give every three months (especially if they are AB-)?Carolus_Rex said:
That's unfair. They are actually doing something, at some cost to themselves. How useful it is I have no idea but you can't call it virtue signalling.tlg86 said:
Virtue signallers, the lot of them.TheScreamingEagles said:Makes you proud to be British
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They are, Head like a hole and something I can never have are awesome.FrancisUrquhart said:
God you really do have eclectic tastes...You have to be the only person in the world who would go to NIN one week, then Steps / VengaBoys the next.TheScreamingEagles said:
Nope, this is the greatest mash up in history.RobD said:
Got any Kiss/Steps mashups?TheScreamingEagles said:
You've never lived until you've seen the Kiss Army in action.FrancisUrquhart said:
You certainly have a errhhhh shall we say an eclectic taste in music.TheScreamingEagles said:Actually I was meant to be seeing Kiss next Tuesday at the MEN Arena.
The Nine Inch Nails vs Rick Astley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQLeNiNTtbc&list=RDfQLeNiNTtbc
(I also saw NIN back in 2014 at the arena too, on the night of the European Election results, so I've actually written PB threads from inside that arena)
NIN are very good though....
Actually here's another mashup featuring NIN, NIN vs Carly Rae Jepsen
Call Me A Hole
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7iqalhjWno0 -
Mashups gave me an idea to search for Queen. This is pretty good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsKfdrWqW080 -
Kudos to everyone today for not highlighting betting opportunities.0
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How do you know they don't?tlg86 said:
Why don't they just give every three months (especially if they are AB-)?Carolus_Rex said:
That's unfair. They are actually doing something, at some cost to themselves. How useful it is I have no idea but you can't call it virtue signalling.tlg86 said:
Virtue signallers, the lot of them.TheScreamingEagles said:Makes you proud to be British
https://twitter.com/DanielHewittITV/status/8669354126689894400 -
Also in 2013 I saw Girls Aloud live at the MEN Arena.
They were fab, nearly as awesome as Depeche Mode in 2009 and Duran Duran in 2011.0 -
They want a global Islamic caliphate and they think that these atrocities will publicise their cause, accelerate the collapse of our civilization and, by prompting governmental over-reactions in response, lead to more recruits.TGOHF said:
its difficult to tell - in the IRA days there was a bloke with a beard and film of other (maybe) blokes in balaclavas telling you what they wanted.David_Evershed said:Is Juncker right when he says the terrorists are trying to destroy our way of life?
Is that their stated objective?
This mob of cowards - have no public face .0 -
That game me a smile on this grim, grim day...williamglenn said:
Isn't the new acronym LGBTSE?TheScreamingEagles said:
I've seen Steps several times before, I won't be the only heterosexual chap there.FrancisUrquhart said:
I think you might be the only heterosexual male in the place :-)TheScreamingEagles said:On topic, I've spent so many nights in the MEN Arena, in fact some of the happiest nights of my life have been in there.
My next gig there is Steps featuring the Vengaboys in December,
I'm going, nobody is going to stop me seeing them. 0 -
What has improving security got to do with establishing all the facts? No two attacks are identical.CarlottaVance said:
And if she had you'd have accused her of 'rushing to judgement' without 'establishing all the facts'.......Cyan said:
Why wasn't there better security? And she said nothing about improving security in the future.jonny83 said:Impressive statesmanlike speech from May.
How would you improve security in a public place?
I've said here today how I would improve security. I think there needs to be more education of staff who have a security role (in particular, do not pooh-pooh any reports you receive - learn from fire brigade protocols) and of ordinary people (in particular, know about stampedes). I think some of this is a job for the army (staff training and also proper evacuation, which can save a lot of lives), and I would support an army presence at all big entertainment events and other public gatherings.
Saying "our values will prevail" is empty. There is a lack of proper leadership.
Also I did not like it one bit how she conflated her role as prime minister with her role as leader of the Tory party.0 -
Because you are limited to four times a year. If you gave blood a month ago you wouldn't be able to do so today.Carolus_Rex said:
How do you know they don't?tlg86 said:
Why don't they just give every three months (especially if they are AB-)?Carolus_Rex said:
That's unfair. They are actually doing something, at some cost to themselves. How useful it is I have no idea but you can't call it virtue signalling.tlg86 said:
Virtue signallers, the lot of them.TheScreamingEagles said:Makes you proud to be British
https://twitter.com/DanielHewittITV/status/8669354126689894400 -
Kosheen vs Placebo - Hide the Bitter PillRobD said:
Have I been rickrolled?TheScreamingEagles said:
Nope, this is the greatest mash up in history.RobD said:
Got any Kiss/Steps mashups?TheScreamingEagles said:
You've never lived until you've seen the Kiss Army in action.FrancisUrquhart said:
You certainly have a errhhhh shall we say an eclectic taste in music.TheScreamingEagles said:Actually I was meant to be seeing Kiss next Tuesday at the MEN Arena.
The Nine Inch Nails vs Rick Astley
www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQLeNiNTtbc&list=RDfQLeNiNTtbc
(I also saw NIN back in 2014 at the arena too, on the night of the European Election results, so I've actually written PB threads from inside that arena)
My favourite mashup is enya vs prodigy.. smack my bitch up/orinoco flow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7XwhRhRSvo0 -
5, 6, 7, 8 times?TheScreamingEagles said:
I've seen Steps several times before, I won't be the only heterosexual chap there.FrancisUrquhart said:
I think you might be the only heterosexual male in the place :-)TheScreamingEagles said:On topic, I've spent so many nights in the MEN Arena, in fact some of the happiest nights of my life have been in there.
My next gig there is Steps featuring the Vengaboys in December,
I'm going, nobody is going to stop me seeing them.0 -
Went to bed around 3am with the death toll at 19, extremely sad but not surprised to wake up to hear the death toll had risen. We may see more in the coming days, there will be some truly horrific injuries considering the nature of the incident.
My sister is still working (GMP), her shift should have ended some hours ago and isn't back yet. I would imagine they will all be kept on at the moment.
Going back to May's speech, impressive. She does that type of speech well, so did Cameron.0 -
Of course it was aimed at you.Wire said:
Hi PeterPeter_the_Punter said:
Yeah, but that one was so clearly insidious you might have made an exception to the rule.RobD said:
A sign of the times.Theuniondivvie said:
Edit: Seriously though, I do try to welcome posters on their first post.
Not insidious, if aimed at me. The knowledge and intellect on here makes that claim a little flimsy. The point was that people on all levels really need to be careful how they respond in one circumstance in case that response is then justifiably thrown back at them at a later date. Ask Colin Parry. I don't know where you are based but I can assure you that in the North West it is a very subdued day and lots of people are very upset.
I might add I look forward to your posts, very insightful, most of the time :-)
You stated you had been a lurker for many years and yet you do not know where I am based. You can't have been lurking very often if you are unaware of my location, or my identity generally. I've been posting since March 2005 (the first 10,000 or so posts were under a very slightly different username, before Mike switched to Vanilla) so to regulars I should think I'm almost family.
Excuse me if I find your credentials a bit thin.0 -
If it is the one on the home page, I was talking about a different photo.FrancisUrquhart said:TSE....you know you said last night of the photo which I said I saw on twitter was a fake...I have just seen Daily Mail photos, I am not convinced it was, as it looks exactly the same (albeit a different angle).
I am not going to link either the twitter photo or the Daily Mail one as are horrific.
Edit:- Actually the Daily Mail are using the photo I saw on twitter now too.0 -
It was certainly very quick. But they do identify with the North given their corporate history. And, although it didn't say on the buckets, I would be very surprised if a company would organise this and not be making its own contribution.Cyan said:
Talk about cashing in. And what mean bastards - couldn't the company itself donate anything?IanB2 said:Morrisons are running a collection for the families of victims at supermarket checkouts.
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Crossed wires. I was talking about the one that is about half way down the Daily Mail page showing the immediate aftermath. Somebody posted that to twitter within minutes of the attack.TheScreamingEagles said:
If it is the one on the home page, I was talking about a different photo.FrancisUrquhart said:TSE....you know you said last night of the photo which I said I saw on twitter was a fake...I have just seen Daily Mail photos, I am not convinced it was, as it looks exactly the same (albeit a different angle).
I am not going to link either the twitter photo or the Daily Mail one as are horrific.
Edit:- Actually the Daily Mail are using the photo I saw on twitter now too.
I have to say I am in two minds about if we need to see this stuff. Sky aren't showing it. On one hand do we need to see all these dead people, but on the other it really hits home how awful it all is.0 -
You certainly won't be the only chap claiming to be heterosexual there.TheScreamingEagles said:
I've seen Steps several times before, I won't be the only heterosexual chap there.FrancisUrquhart said:
I think you might be the only heterosexual male in the place :-)TheScreamingEagles said:On topic, I've spent so many nights in the MEN Arena, in fact some of the happiest nights of my life have been in there.
My next gig there is Steps featuring the Vengaboys in December,
I'm going, nobody is going to stop me seeing them.0 -
Heh, this will be the 5th time I'll see Steps live.AlastairMeeks said:
5, 6, 7, 8 times?TheScreamingEagles said:
I've seen Steps several times before, I won't be the only heterosexual chap there.FrancisUrquhart said:
I think you might be the only heterosexual male in the place :-)TheScreamingEagles said:On topic, I've spent so many nights in the MEN Arena, in fact some of the happiest nights of my life have been in there.
My next gig there is Steps featuring the Vengaboys in December,
I'm going, nobody is going to stop me seeing them.0 -
No. Their literal stated objective is to divide Muslims bombing a pop concert helps they believe because they want Britons to turn on Muslims so they can say "see they hate you, now choose it's us or them". They want muslims to decide whose side they are on.David_Evershed said:Is Juncker right when he says the terrorists are trying to destroy our way of life?
Is that their stated objective?
If Isis is trying to establish a state in the Middle East which imposes Islamic law, which are they bombing Manchester?
The idea isis want to change the west into an islamic state is wrong, they want to create a caliphate in Syria/Iraq to bring on end times.0 -
Mr. Punter, to be fair, I probably couldn't say where you were either. Not necessarily a sign someone hasn't been lurking (and you were absent for quite some time).0
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TheScreamingEagles said:
Also in 2013 I saw Girls Aloud live at the MEN Arena.
They were fab, nearly as awesome as Depeche Mode in 2009 and Duran Duran in 2011.
I never thought that I'd find another Girls Aloud fan on PB.
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Thats a tragedy.TheScreamingEagles said:
Heh, this will be the 5th time I'll see Steps live.AlastairMeeks said:
5, 6, 7, 8 times?TheScreamingEagles said:
I've seen Steps several times before, I won't be the only heterosexual chap there.FrancisUrquhart said:
I think you might be the only heterosexual male in the place :-)TheScreamingEagles said:On topic, I've spent so many nights in the MEN Arena, in fact some of the happiest nights of my life have been in there.
My next gig there is Steps featuring the Vengaboys in December,
I'm going, nobody is going to stop me seeing them.0 -
Nice!MarqueeMark said:
Kosheen vs Placebo - Hide the Bitter PillRobD said:
Have I been rickrolled?TheScreamingEagles said:
Nope, this is the greatest mash up in history.RobD said:
Got any Kiss/Steps mashups?TheScreamingEagles said:
You've never lived until you've seen the Kiss Army in action.FrancisUrquhart said:
You certainly have a errhhhh shall we say an eclectic taste in music.TheScreamingEagles said:Actually I was meant to be seeing Kiss next Tuesday at the MEN Arena.
The Nine Inch Nails vs Rick Astley
www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQLeNiNTtbc&list=RDfQLeNiNTtbc
(I also saw NIN back in 2014 at the arena too, on the night of the European Election results, so I've actually written PB threads from inside that arena)
My favourite mashup is enya vs prodigy.. smack my bitch up/orinoco flow.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7XwhRhRSvo
Hmm, now am I going to spend the next hour listening to mashups?0 -
That's class and has cheered me considerably on a very grim morning here in north Manchester.Morris_Dancer said:Mashups gave me an idea to search for Queen. This is pretty good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsKfdrWqW080 -
There is something slightly odd about complaining that the members of a political forum are discussing the political implications of what is almost certainly a political act. I can't for the life of me think why it is predominately supporters of one party that are disquieted about the discussion taking place.IanB2 said:It is about showing some respect for the victims and their families, before launching back into electoral point scoring. As the parties are all doing today. You are right that in a free country it is not obligatory. But it is desirable.
If people on the TV talk about things I find disagreeable, I change to a difference channel, likewise rather than trying to fetter the free speech of others to suit your own taste it might be easier to follow the advise of Mr Meeks and others and seek entertainment elsewhere today.
They were someone else I thoughtAlastairMeeks said:
5, 6, 7, 8 times?TheScreamingEagles said:
I've seen Steps several times before, I won't be the only heterosexual chap there.FrancisUrquhart said:
I think you might be the only heterosexual male in the place :-)TheScreamingEagles said:On topic, I've spent so many nights in the MEN Arena, in fact some of the happiest nights of my life have been in there.
My next gig there is Steps featuring the Vengaboys in December,
I'm going, nobody is going to stop me seeing them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skmRdVStYgc0 -
No, destroying the western way of life is not the jihadists' stated objective. Daesh in their journal "Dabiq" (the title of which is an apocalyptic reference) say they want to negotiate with the US.David_Evershed said:Is Juncker right when he says the terrorists are trying to destroy our way of life?
Is that their stated objective?
If Isis is trying to establish a state in the Middle East which imposes Islamic law, which are they bombing Manchester?
There are apocalyptic references on both sides!
The purpose of the jihadists' terror attacks in the west is to spur a withdrawal from the Middle East of "crusader", secular ("kufr") and Jewish armed forces which stand in the way of the health of the kind of barbaric state that they want to make thrive.0 -
Hah, yes!Bob__Sykes said:
That's class and has cheered me considerably on a very grim morning here in north Manchester.Morris_Dancer said:Mashups gave me an idea to search for Queen. This is pretty good:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsKfdrWqW080 -
I also saw Justin Bieber live at the Arena.
I didn't want to go. I really really didn't want to go, but I was forced to go.
And here's a Bieber/Slipknot mashup
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5SaE4FmKpc0 -
On a day like this, a Steps concert would be just about the last thing on my mind.Philip_Thompson said:
Thats a tragedy.TheScreamingEagles said:
Heh, this will be the 5th time I'll see Steps live.AlastairMeeks said:
5, 6, 7, 8 times?TheScreamingEagles said:
I've seen Steps several times before, I won't be the only heterosexual chap there.FrancisUrquhart said:
I think you might be the only heterosexual male in the place :-)TheScreamingEagles said:On topic, I've spent so many nights in the MEN Arena, in fact some of the happiest nights of my life have been in there.
My next gig there is Steps featuring the Vengaboys in December,
I'm going, nobody is going to stop me seeing them.0 -
Nice.Morris_Dancer said:Mashups gave me an idea to search for Queen. This is pretty good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsKfdrWqW08 0 -
There are worse ways to spend today.RobD said:
Nice!MarqueeMark said:
Kosheen vs Placebo - Hide the Bitter PillRobD said:
Have I been rickrolled?TheScreamingEagles said:
Nope, this is the greatest mash up in history.RobD said:
Got any Kiss/Steps mashups?TheScreamingEagles said:
You've never lived until you've seen the Kiss Army in action.FrancisUrquhart said:
You certainly have a errhhhh shall we say an eclectic taste in music.TheScreamingEagles said:Actually I was meant to be seeing Kiss next Tuesday at the MEN Arena.
The Nine Inch Nails vs Rick Astley
www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQLeNiNTtbc&list=RDfQLeNiNTtbc
(I also saw NIN back in 2014 at the arena too, on the night of the European Election results, so I've actually written PB threads from inside that arena)
My favourite mashup is enya vs prodigy.. smack my bitch up/orinoco flow.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7XwhRhRSvo
Hmm, now am I going to spend the next hour listening to mashups?
We should all listen to popular music for an hour today. Just to say FUCK YOU, haters.0 -
Girls Aloud's greatest hits was one of the 100 albums to love in the Sunday's Sunday Times. It's one of the few albums that appears on the car usb stick which I don't instantly skip...The_Apocalypse said:TheScreamingEagles said:Also in 2013 I saw Girls Aloud live at the MEN Arena.
They were fab, nearly as awesome as Depeche Mode in 2009 and Duran Duran in 2011.
I never thought that I'd find another Girls Aloud fan on PB.0 -
True.Theuniondivvie said:
You certainly won't be the only chap claiming to be heterosexual there.TheScreamingEagles said:
I've seen Steps several times before, I won't be the only heterosexual chap there.FrancisUrquhart said:
I think you might be the only heterosexual male in the place :-)TheScreamingEagles said:On topic, I've spent so many nights in the MEN Arena, in fact some of the happiest nights of my life have been in there.
My next gig there is Steps featuring the Vengaboys in December,
I'm going, nobody is going to stop me seeing them.0 -
BravoDanny565 said:
On a day like this, a Steps concert would be just about the last thing on my mind.Philip_Thompson said:
Thats a tragedy.TheScreamingEagles said:
Heh, this will be the 5th time I'll see Steps live.AlastairMeeks said:
5, 6, 7, 8 times?TheScreamingEagles said:
I've seen Steps several times before, I won't be the only heterosexual chap there.FrancisUrquhart said:
I think you might be the only heterosexual male in the place :-)TheScreamingEagles said:On topic, I've spent so many nights in the MEN Arena, in fact some of the happiest nights of my life have been in there.
My next gig there is Steps featuring the Vengaboys in December,
I'm going, nobody is going to stop me seeing them.0 -
I don't know where you're based. No offence intended but apart from the Scots (and then it's just Scotland in general) and a certain individual from Bedford I don't know where many people are from. You're definitely part of the family here though and not knowing your identity is implausible.Peter_the_Punter said:
Of course it was aimed at you.Wire said:
Hi PeterPeter_the_Punter said:
Yeah, but that one was so clearly insidious you might have made an exception to the rule.RobD said:
A sign of the times.Theuniondivvie said:
Edit: Seriously though, I do try to welcome posters on their first post.
Not insidious, if aimed at me. The knowledge and intellect on here makes that claim a little flimsy. The point was that people on all levels really need to be careful how they respond in one circumstance in case that response is then justifiably thrown back at them at a later date. Ask Colin Parry. I don't know where you are based but I can assure you that in the North West it is a very subdued day and lots of people are very upset.
I might add I look forward to your posts, very insightful, most of the time :-)
You stated you had been a lurker for many years and yet you do not know where I am based. You can't have been lurking very often if you are unaware of my location, or my identity generally. I've been posting since March 2005 (the first 10,000 or so posts were under a very slightly different username, before Mike switched to Vanilla) so to regulars I should think I'm almost family.
Excuse me if I find your credentials a bit thin.0 -
Justin Bieber's continued success is tragic.
One of the few Canadian exports in recent years that I don't like.0 -
No Sean T yet.
**stockpiles popcorn**-1 -
Call the Shots could easily be a mid-era Duran track. The lost track from Big Thing. Or the AA side of Skin Trade.TheScreamingEagles said:Also in 2013 I saw Girls Aloud live at the MEN Arena.
They were fab, nearly as awesome as Depeche Mode in 2009 and Duran Duran in 2011.0 -
My GA favourite songs were/are:eek said:
Girls Aloud's greatest hits was one of the 100 albums to love in the Sunday's Sunday Times. It's one of the few albums that appears on the car usb stick which I don't instantly skip...The_Apocalypse said:TheScreamingEagles said:Also in 2013 I saw Girls Aloud live at the MEN Arena.
They were fab, nearly as awesome as Depeche Mode in 2009 and Duran Duran in 2011.
I never thought that I'd find another Girls Aloud fan on PB.
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We Found Somebody That I Used to KnowRobD said:
Nice!MarqueeMark said:
Kosheen vs Placebo - Hide the Bitter PillRobD said:
Have I been rickrolled?TheScreamingEagles said:
Nope, this is the greatest mash up in history.RobD said:
Got any Kiss/Steps mashups?TheScreamingEagles said:
You've never lived until you've seen the Kiss Army in action.FrancisUrquhart said:
You certainly have a errhhhh shall we say an eclectic taste in music.TheScreamingEagles said:Actually I was meant to be seeing Kiss next Tuesday at the MEN Arena.
The Nine Inch Nails vs Rick Astley
www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQLeNiNTtbc&list=RDfQLeNiNTtbc
(I also saw NIN back in 2014 at the arena too, on the night of the European Election results, so I've actually written PB threads from inside that arena)
My favourite mashup is enya vs prodigy.. smack my bitch up/orinoco flow.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7XwhRhRSvo
Hmm, now am I going to spend the next hour listening to mashups?
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In terms of ways the events of the past 24 hours could damage the Tories I suppose there is always the chance that the suspect involved was on some watchlist during May's time as home secretary and wasn't fully checked out.0
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Well that is most likely true, given she was home sec up to a year ago.Brom said:In terms of ways the events of the past 24 hours could damage the Tories I suppose there is always the chance that the suspect involved was on some watchlist during May's time as home secretary and wasn't fully checked out.
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Is it broadly fair to say that Keane sold because Elton John had stopped recording and his audience had to buy something?0
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Just because it has virtue doesn't mean it's not signalling. But just because they've responded in this way doesn't mean they are, either.Carolus_Rex said:
That's unfair. They are actually doing something, at some cost to themselves. How useful it is I have no idea but you can't call it virtue signalling.tlg86 said:
Virtue signallers, the lot of them.TheScreamingEagles said:Makes you proud to be British
https://twitter.com/DanielHewittITV/status/866935412668989440
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It could also be that Nuttall goes all in and decides his programme for Government would be to unleash Biblical hellfire on UK muslims. I can see that getting a mountain of votes after last night...Brom said:In terms of ways the events of the past 24 hours could damage the Tories I suppose there is always the chance that the suspect involved was on some watchlist during May's time as home secretary and wasn't fully checked out.
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Ohh, that one is good!williamglenn said:
We Found Somebody That I Used to KnowRobD said:
Nice!MarqueeMark said:
Kosheen vs Placebo - Hide the Bitter PillRobD said:
Have I been rickrolled?TheScreamingEagles said:
Nope, this is the greatest mash up in history.RobD said:
Got any Kiss/Steps mashups?TheScreamingEagles said:
You've never lived until you've seen the Kiss Army in action.FrancisUrquhart said:
You certainly have a errhhhh shall we say an eclectic taste in music.TheScreamingEagles said:Actually I was meant to be seeing Kiss next Tuesday at the MEN Arena.
The Nine Inch Nails vs Rick Astley
www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQLeNiNTtbc&list=RDfQLeNiNTtbc
(I also saw NIN back in 2014 at the arena too, on the night of the European Election results, so I've actually written PB threads from inside that arena)
My favourite mashup is enya vs prodigy.. smack my bitch up/orinoco flow.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7XwhRhRSvo
Hmm, now am I going to spend the next hour listening to mashups?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=4coj9bHEOZg
Here's Prodigy vs. Enya I mentioned earlier:
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U like Molson?The_Apocalypse said:Justin Bieber's continued success is tragic.
One of the few Canadian exports in recent years that I don't like.0 -
Given the media are already saying the authorities are certain they know who he is, that would suggest that the individual is probably known to them. If they aren't known, even with an ID is found etc, they normally say need to check out to make sure that it is that person etc etc etc.RobD said:
Well that is most likely true, given she was home sec up to a year ago.Brom said:In terms of ways the events of the past 24 hours could damage the Tories I suppose there is always the chance that the suspect involved was on some watchlist during May's time as home secretary and wasn't fully checked out.
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Did you not see his PPB from last night. Whistfully looking out over Wigan PierMarqueeMark said:
It could also be that Nuttall goes all in and decides his programme for Government would be to unleash Biblical hellfire on UK muslims. I can see that getting a mountain of votes after last night...Brom said:In terms of ways the events of the past 24 hours could damage the Tories I suppose there is always the chance that the suspect involved was on some watchlist during May's time as home secretary and wasn't fully checked out.
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I'd be surprised if there weren't quite a lot. PB's combined musical tastes are broad and unpredicable.The_Apocalypse said:TheScreamingEagles said:Also in 2013 I saw Girls Aloud live at the MEN Arena.
They were fab, nearly as awesome as Depeche Mode in 2009 and Duran Duran in 2011.
I never thought that I'd find another Girls Aloud fan on PB.
I think I've only been the the MEN once, to see My Chemical Romance, which was amusing as the signs on the A road leading into the city had 'MCR' painted on the road.0 -
Yes, they will undoubtedly take some votes off the Tories. She is lucky they are only standing in 60% of the constituencies. At the same time one would imagine a small red to blue drift, but really this is very early speculation. I'm just glad the election was as much a foregone conclusion as possible as I'd feel uncomfortable with a major event like this changing the outcome.MarqueeMark said:
It could also be that Nuttall goes all in and decides his programme for Government would be to unleash Biblical hellfire on UK muslims. I can see that getting a mountain of votes after last night...Brom said:In terms of ways the events of the past 24 hours could damage the Tories I suppose there is always the chance that the suspect involved was on some watchlist during May's time as home secretary and wasn't fully checked out.
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I think that is very sensible - I don't intend to get into any politicisation of this issue, I think to any extent that happens it will be slight in any case, but like you there are times when 'in the moment' is precisely the time to discuss things, where while the heatedness may not be helpful, it is too easy to ignore a problem whenever there is not an immediate crisis, and it is best to examine these things, including unpalatable aspects and confronting uncomfortable political implications for persons and groups, and trust in our society and our governance to keep a lid on any disproportionate reaction.Paristonda said:FPT:
In defence of politicisation of these issues - I take the view that when there is a mass shooting in the US, all the NRA people saying that 'today is not the time for politics' or accusing the democrats of making political capital out of the shootings is pretty disgusting in my mind, because it just stops discussing the problems at hand. I have a feeling many people are the same as me in this regard.0 -
And in any event, surely that's better than signalling the opposite ?david_herdson said:
Just because it has virtue doesn't mean it's not signalling. But just because they've responded in this way doesn't mean they are, either.Carolus_Rex said:
That's unfair. They are actually doing something, at some cost to themselves. How useful it is I have no idea but you can't call it virtue signalling.tlg86 said:
Virtue signallers, the lot of them.TheScreamingEagles said:Makes you proud to be British
https://twitter.com/DanielHewittITV/status/866935412668989440
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It's hardly going to be news since the ISC told everyone a couple of years ago that we would need to increase the size and budget of the security services by something like 50 fold to watch all the "persons of interest" on a 24/7 basis.FrancisUrquhart said:
Given the media are already saying the authorities are certain they know who he is, that would suggest that the individual is probably known to them. If they aren't known, even with an ID is found etc, they normally say need to check out to make sure that it is that person etc etc etc.RobD said:
Well that is most likely true, given she was home sec up to a year ago.Brom said:In terms of ways the events of the past 24 hours could damage the Tories I suppose there is always the chance that the suspect involved was on some watchlist during May's time as home secretary and wasn't fully checked out.
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They wish to cause division and strife between Muslims and non-muslims in Europe.David_Evershed said:Is Juncker right when he says the terrorists are trying to destroy our way of life?
Is that their stated objective?
If Isis is trying to establish a state in the Middle East which imposes Islamic law, which are they bombing Manchester?
It is a key part of their philosophy that it is i.poasoble for Muslims to live peacefully in Europe amongst the 'Crusaders'. The fact that lots of Muslims do is pretty devastating to their ideology - this they want to cause a massive anti-Muslim backlash in Europe by perpetrating terrorism.
They want a black and white world and I eliminate shades of grey, it's all in their literature.0 -
Who?Peter_the_Punter said:
U like Molson?The_Apocalypse said:Justin Bieber's continued success is tragic.
One of the few Canadian exports in recent years that I don't like.
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Was that the March 2007 gig? I was there!david_herdson said:
I'd be surprised if there weren't quite a lot. PB's combined musical tastes are broad and unpredicable.The_Apocalypse said:TheScreamingEagles said:Also in 2013 I saw Girls Aloud live at the MEN Arena.
They were fab, nearly as awesome as Depeche Mode in 2009 and Duran Duran in 2011.
I never thought that I'd find another Girls Aloud fan on PB.
I think I've only been the the MEN once, to see My Chemical Romance, which was amusing as the signs on the A road leading into the city had 'MCR' painted on the road.
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Really enjoying PB Mash-Up Radio today....0
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Having met both of you that's rather surprising. Pulpstar I could see as an emo.TheScreamingEagles said:
Was that the March 2007 gig? I was there!david_herdson said:
I'd be surprised if there weren't quite a lot. PB's combined musical tastes are broad and unpredicable.The_Apocalypse said:TheScreamingEagles said:Also in 2013 I saw Girls Aloud live at the MEN Arena.
They were fab, nearly as awesome as Depeche Mode in 2009 and Duran Duran in 2011.
I never thought that I'd find another Girls Aloud fan on PB.
I think I've only been the the MEN once, to see My Chemical Romance, which was amusing as the signs on the A road leading into the city had 'MCR' painted on the road.0 -
For those of a sensitive disposition, I suggest you don't go on the Daily Mail website. I am really in two minds if they should be posting some of the pictures they have chosen.SeanT said:Some of this Manchester footage is unbearable.
The blood boils.0 -
Molson is a beer, not a band!The_Apocalypse said:
Who?Peter_the_Punter said:
U like Molson?The_Apocalypse said:Justin Bieber's continued success is tragic.
One of the few Canadian exports in recent years that I don't like.
When it comes to Canada I was thinking about Drake, The Weeknd, Alessia Cara
The Canadians make surprisingly good wine too...0 -
We had a remainer here who said there was something uniquely dreadful about UK exceptionalism.glw said:
There was an unintentionally funny bit on the radio this morning when Burnham said something like 'and in exactly the same way as London, Manchester will it its unique way show solidarity'.KentRising said:The banality/stupidity of assorted media.
"Mr Burnham, how are you going to get Manchester through this?"
Yeah, Manchester would be in complete disarray without its major. The eyes of the city are on him.
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I was never a great fan of My Chemical Romance.david_herdson said:
I'd be surprised if there weren't quite a lot. PB's combined musical tastes are broad and unpredicable.The_Apocalypse said:TheScreamingEagles said:Also in 2013 I saw Girls Aloud live at the MEN Arena.
They were fab, nearly as awesome as Depeche Mode in 2009 and Duran Duran in 2011.
I never thought that I'd find another Girls Aloud fan on PB.
I think I've only been the the MEN once, to see My Chemical Romance, which was amusing as the signs on the A road leading into the city had 'MCR' painted on the road.
I liked Green Day and Paramore.0 -
Could Boris Johnson perhaps put down his US passport for a moment and call in the US ambassador and ask him to tell Donald Trump to STFU? If this was a jihadist attack against Britain then it was a successful one and it is no help to condemn the enemy as "losers", even if it's Trump's favourite word for people he doesn't like.0
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Reminds me of the Bataclan.FrancisUrquhart said:
For those of a sensitive disposition, I suggest you don't go on the Daily Mail website. I am really in two minds if they should be posting some of the pictures they have chosen.SeanT said:Some of this Manchester footage is unbearable.
The blood boils.0 -
Including the Okanagan Valley....with their bizarre ice wine.Carolus_Rex said:
Molson is a beer, not a band!The_Apocalypse said:
Who?Peter_the_Punter said:
U like Molson?The_Apocalypse said:Justin Bieber's continued success is tragic.
One of the few Canadian exports in recent years that I don't like.
When it comes to Canada I was thinking about Drake, The Weeknd, Alessia Cara
The Canadians make surprisingly good wine too...0 -
Sometimes I think PB is the kookiest place on the internet.MarqueeMark said:Really enjoying PB Mash-Up Radio today....
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Yes. When I saw the early picture on twitter last night that is what came to mind.RobD said:
Reminds me of the Bataclan.FrancisUrquhart said:
For those of a sensitive disposition, I suggest you don't go on the Daily Mail website. I am really in two minds if they should be posting some of the pictures they have chosen.SeanT said:Some of this Manchester footage is unbearable.
The blood boils.0 -
Thank you Philip. I am however moderately surprised that my East End roots are not more widely known, not least because of my occasional use of the local vernacular, my old china.Philip_Thompson said:
I don't know where you're based. No offence intended but apart from the Scots (and then it's just Scotland in general) and a certain individual from Bedford I don't know where many people are from. You're definitely part of the family here though and not knowing your identity is implausible.Peter_the_Punter said:
Of course it was aimed at you.Wire said:
Hi PeterPeter_the_Punter said:
Yeah, but that one was so clearly insidious you might have made an exception to the rule.RobD said:
A sign of the times.Theuniondivvie said:
Edit: Seriously though, I do try to welcome posters on their first post.
Not insidious, if aimed at me. The knowledge and intellect on here makes that claim a little flimsy. The point was that people on all levels really need to be careful how they respond in one circumstance in case that response is then justifiably thrown back at them at a later date. Ask Colin Parry. I don't know where you are based but I can assure you that in the North West it is a very subdued day and lots of people are very upset.
I might add I look forward to your posts, very insightful, most of the time :-)
You stated you had been a lurker for many years and yet you do not know where I am based. You can't have been lurking very often if you are unaware of my location, or my identity generally. I've been posting since March 2005 (the first 10,000 or so posts were under a very slightly different username, before Mike switched to Vanilla) so to regulars I should think I'm almost family.
Excuse me if I find your credentials a bit thin.
Still, I suppose it depends how your antennae are fixed. I must admit I couldn't locate most posters, either geographically or politically.0 -
That's a good one. Watching musical mashups is somewhat preferable to discussing terrorism.RobD said:
Ohh, that one is good!williamglenn said:
We Found Somebody That I Used to KnowRobD said:
Nice!MarqueeMark said:
Kosheen vs Placebo - Hide the Bitter PillRobD said:
Have I been rickrolled?TheScreamingEagles said:
Nope, this is the greatest mash up in history.RobD said:
Got any Kiss/Steps mashups?TheScreamingEagles said:
You've never lived until you've seen the Kiss Army in action.FrancisUrquhart said:
You certainly have a errhhhh shall we say an eclectic taste in music.TheScreamingEagles said:Actually I was meant to be seeing Kiss next Tuesday at the MEN Arena.
The Nine Inch Nails vs Rick Astley
www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQLeNiNTtbc&list=RDfQLeNiNTtbc
(I also saw NIN back in 2014 at the arena too, on the night of the European Election results, so I've actually written PB threads from inside that arena)
My favourite mashup is enya vs prodigy.. smack my bitch up/orinoco flow.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7XwhRhRSvo
Hmm, now am I going to spend the next hour listening to mashups?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=4coj9bHEOZg
Here's Prodigy vs. Enya I mentioned earlier:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CTJqwX-AwM
Music sounds better on holiday:
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I never thought in my entire life I would visit this site and witness a love-in between Girls Aloud fans. I don't think even Sean T with his maniacal frothing can top that.0
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Is that when we are talking about expensive plonk, world class restaurants or the best first class airport lounge?RobD said:
Sometimes I think PB is the kookiest place on the internet.MarqueeMark said:Really enjoying PB Mash-Up Radio today....
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No-one speaks like that down Wanstead High Street nowadays...Peter_the_Punter said:
Thank you Philip. I am however moderately surprised that my East End roots are not more widely known, not least because of my occasional use of the local vernacular, my old china.Philip_Thompson said:
I don't know where you're based. No offence intended but apart from the Scots (and then it's just Scotland in general) and a certain individual from Bedford I don't know where many people are from. You're definitely part of the family here though and not knowing your identity is implausible.Peter_the_Punter said:
Of course it was aimed at you.Wire said:
Hi PeterPeter_the_Punter said:
Yeah, but that one was so clearly insidious you might have made an exception to the rule.RobD said:
A sign of the times.Theuniondivvie said:
Edit: Seriously though, I do try to welcome posters on their first post.
Not insidious, if aimed at me. The knowledge and intellect on here makes that claim a little flimsy. The point was that people on all levels really need to be careful how they respond in one circumstance in case that response is then justifiably thrown back at them at a later date. Ask Colin Parry. I don't know where you are based but I can assure you that in the North West it is a very subdued day and lots of people are very upset.
I might add I look forward to your posts, very insightful, most of the time :-)
You stated you had been a lurker for many years and yet you do not know where I am based. You can't have been lurking very often if you are unaware of my location, or my identity generally. I've been posting since March 2005 (the first 10,000 or so posts were under a very slightly different username, before Mike switched to Vanilla) so to regulars I should think I'm almost family.
Excuse me if I find your credentials a bit thin.
Still, I suppose it depends how your antennae are fixed. I must admit I couldn't locate most posters, either geographically or politically.0 -
Ah, okay.Carolus_Rex said:
Molson is a beer, not a band!The_Apocalypse said:
Who?Peter_the_Punter said:
U like Molson?The_Apocalypse said:Justin Bieber's continued success is tragic.
One of the few Canadian exports in recent years that I don't like.
When it comes to Canada I was thinking about Drake, The Weeknd, Alessia Cara
The Canadians make surprisingly good wine too...
Never tasted Canadian wine or any kind of Canadian alcohol.
I'm very basic in my choices regarding alcohol.
For instance I like Jagermeister.0 -
You are such a loss to the world of diplomacy.Cyan said:Could Boris Johnson perhaps put down his US passport for a moment and call in the US ambassador and ask him to tell Donald Trump to STFU? If this was a jihadist attack against Britain then it was a successful one and it is no help to condemn the enemy as "losers", even if it's Trump's favourite word for people he doesn't like.
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That's what I was thinking of. One of the best dessert wines I've had.FrancisUrquhart said:
Including the Okanagan Valley....with their bizarre ice wine.Carolus_Rex said:
Molson is a beer, not a band!The_Apocalypse said:
Who?Peter_the_Punter said:
U like Molson?The_Apocalypse said:Justin Bieber's continued success is tragic.
One of the few Canadian exports in recent years that I don't like.
When it comes to Canada I was thinking about Drake, The Weeknd, Alessia Cara
The Canadians make surprisingly good wine too...
Very good with stilton, one of those combinations that sounds awful but is actually delicious.0 -
Yes, it must have been: the most recent album at the time had been Black Parade.TheScreamingEagles said:
Was that the March 2007 gig? I was there!david_herdson said:
I'd be surprised if there weren't quite a lot. PB's combined musical tastes are broad and unpredicable.The_Apocalypse said:TheScreamingEagles said:Also in 2013 I saw Girls Aloud live at the MEN Arena.
They were fab, nearly as awesome as Depeche Mode in 2009 and Duran Duran in 2011.
I never thought that I'd find another Girls Aloud fan on PB.
I think I've only been the the MEN once, to see My Chemical Romance, which was amusing as the signs on the A road leading into the city had 'MCR' painted on the road.
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Better still, where to find all three in the same placeFrancisUrquhart said:
Is that when we are talking about expensive plonk, world class restaurants or the best first class airport lounge?RobD said:
Sometimes I think PB is the kookiest place on the internet.MarqueeMark said:Really enjoying PB Mash-Up Radio today....
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I have been there a few times and spent a few afternoons doing the tours....I had to have a long lie down afterwards!Carolus_Rex said:
That's what I was thinking of. One of the best dessert wines I've had.FrancisUrquhart said:
Including the Okanagan Valley....with their bizarre ice wine.Carolus_Rex said:
Molson is a beer, not a band!The_Apocalypse said:
Who?Peter_the_Punter said:
U like Molson?The_Apocalypse said:Justin Bieber's continued success is tragic.
One of the few Canadian exports in recent years that I don't like.
When it comes to Canada I was thinking about Drake, The Weeknd, Alessia Cara
The Canadians make surprisingly good wine too...
Very good with stilton, one of those combinations that sounds awful but is actually delicious.0 -
Heard some truly horrific stuff from someone who was at the scene near the foyer area. That person is expecting the death toll to rise.0
