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YouGov: LAB vote holding up in London poll. LDs up 6. (Changes on GE2015)LAB 42% -2CON 36% +2LD 14% +6UKIP 6%-2GRN 3% -2
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Yes but I suspect UKIP aren't going to stand in a lot, if not most, London constituencies.0
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We know of several seats where UKIP aren't standing, but I guess by tomorrow we'll know how many deposits they've managed to raise. I think it could be in the double figures, in which case around 3/4 of their current poll support could still go elsewhere when the voters realise there isn't a ukip candidate to vote for.0
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Which means there is only one winner today.RobD said:Second
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That's one of the nightmare scenarios for our friends in the polling industry.Sandpit said:We know of several seats where UKIP aren't standing, but I guess by tomorrow we'll know how many deposits they've managed to raise. I think it could be in the double figures, in which case around 3/4 of their current poll support could still go elsewhere when the voters realise there isn't a ukip candidate to vote for.
On June 8th, Kipper goes to cast their vote, only to find no UKIP candidate on the ballot paper.0 -
Vauxhall is the electoral equivalent of Mount Everest Olympus Mons for the Lib Dems to climb, bet against a 30 pt swing happening here in my opinion at around 1-2.0
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Crap.
Just seen the 2019 Rugby World Cup draw.0 -
Who cares about London?0
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What odds on LD win in Vauxhall? (i'm on a work computer)
Are those who put on a 10-1 bet with RCS able to lay off nicely yet?0 -
Stab me....0
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A difference between GE2015 and now, is the lack of big UKiP donors coming forward, basically we have little idea how many candidates they’ll have standing and how much they have to spend. - Both on the low side is my guess.
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Oh I was too slow to jump on that bandwagon, but I've been following developments with amusement.Pulpstar said:
Yes. Do so, I've nakedly backed Hoey here and am very happy about it.Anorak said:What odds on LD win in Vauxhall? (i'm on a work computer)
Are those who put on a 10-1 bet with RCS able to lay off nicely yet?0 -
I know I'm talking up my own book here, but I wonder how much Kate Hoey's support for fox hunting is going to hurt in Vauxhall.Pulpstar said:Vauxhall is the electoral equivalent of Mount Everest Olympus Mons for the Lib Dems to climb, bet against a 30 pt swing happening here in my opinion at around 1-2.
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Zero.TheScreamingEagles said:
I know I'm talking up my own book here, but I wonder how much Kate Hoey's support for fox hunting is going to hurt in Vauxhall.Pulpstar said:Vauxhall is the electoral equivalent of Mount Everest Olympus Mons for the Lib Dems to climb, bet against a 30 pt swing happening here in my opinion at around 1-2.
UKIP not standing will net gain her (And the Tories) some votes too.0 -
Interestingly Ruth is softening her stance:
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Well she's worriedPulpstar said:
Zero.TheScreamingEagles said:
I know I'm talking up my own book here, but I wonder how much Kate Hoey's support for fox hunting is going to hurt in Vauxhall.Pulpstar said:Vauxhall is the electoral equivalent of Mount Everest Olympus Mons for the Lib Dems to climb, bet against a 30 pt swing happening here in my opinion at around 1-2.
UKIP not standing will net gain her (And the Tories) some votes too.
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/vauxhall-lib-dem-candidate-compares-kate-hoey-airbrush-stunt-to-stalinism-a3535311.html0 -
"The big question for the blues is whether their gains can offset possible losses to the LDs"
Of all the big questions in this election, this is not anywhere near one of them.0 -
Wouldn't that make more sense as 'Tories cleared in election probe'?0
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Au contraire ....TheScreamingEagles said:Crap.
Just seen the 2019 Rugby World Cup draw.
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Vauxhall is a fascinating seat, Kate Hoey has a huge majority but the LDs are pushing hard and the Tories have a young and energetic local candidate in Dorothy Theis who doesn't look like she's going to soft pedal. Not forgetting of course our own @Lennon, of the Pirate Party, ooh arrgghhh!
Kate must have a huge personal vote from 28 years as MP, she got 53% last time so I just can't see that much of a majority being overturned. If the LDs do make a big push and campaign negatively on Hoey and the EU, can she get some tactical Con Leave votes and squeeze out the small UKIP vote from 2015?0 -
Is this not what we assumed? That Islington North writ large was the last bastion of a once great party? The corollary is of course out in the real world the swings are even bigger than the national polling indicates.0
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Mr. Eagles, does look a bit difficult for both groups. Still, Japan are probably miffed too.0
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Osborne is hoping readers will miss the word "cleared".RobD said:Wouldn't that make more sense as 'Tories cleared in election probe'?
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Come on Mike you can't have a byline of "LDs hoping for gains in the capital"
In the proud tradition of awful punnery it should surely be "LDs hoping for capital gains"
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I presume her joining Nigel on his river cruise last year won't hurt her chances with the kippers.Sandpit said:Vauxhall is a fascinating seat, Kate Hoey has a huge majority but the LDs are pushing hard and the Tories have a young and energetic local candidate in Dorothy Theis who doesn't look like she's going to soft pedal. Not forgetting of course our own @Lennon, of the Pirate Party, ooh arrgghhh!
Kate must have a huge personal vote from 28 years as MP, she got 53% last time so I just can't see that much of a majority being overturned. If the LDs do make a big push and campaign negatively on Hoey and the EU, can she get some tactical Con Leave votes and squeeze out the small UKIP vote from 2015?0 -
The average voter simply doesn't pay that much attention.TheScreamingEagles said:
Well she's worriedPulpstar said:
Zero.TheScreamingEagles said:
I know I'm talking up my own book here, but I wonder how much Kate Hoey's support for fox hunting is going to hurt in Vauxhall.Pulpstar said:Vauxhall is the electoral equivalent of Mount Everest Olympus Mons for the Lib Dems to climb, bet against a 30 pt swing happening here in my opinion at around 1-2.
UKIP not standing will net gain her (And the Tories) some votes too.
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/vauxhall-lib-dem-candidate-compares-kate-hoey-airbrush-stunt-to-stalinism-a3535311.html0 -
Easy group for France and Argentina there ....TheScreamingEagles said:
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Just have a walk around parts of London, it'll happen soon enough at the moment.Scrapheap_as_was said:Stab me....
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That's a proper Group of DeathTheScreamingEagles said:Crap.
Just seen the 2019 Rugby World Cup draw.
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The problem with London polls is always about the geographical distribution. the difference between inner and outer can be crucial and paint a very different picture to the overall score.0
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Oh and back to expenses looks like the CPS are pro-hunt having shot the last LD fox?
Edit: Mark not leading the Pack?0 -
So if the swing is this small in London, it must be stratospheric in the North and Midlands...0
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If we're going to win it, we have to beat them anyhow. If the extent of our ambition is getting through the group stage, then why are we bothering ?TheScreamingEagles said:
Rigged would be Australia and New Zealand.
:-)
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Haha. One of my Corbynite friends is having a proper meltdown
Wanted to know if CPS stood for Conservative Protection Squad and it full of public school Tories?
She's gone ever so quiet after I told what job the previous DPP has these days and who his boss is.0 -
Yes, but UKIP lost their deposit here last time with only 3%Carolus_Rex said:
I presume her joining Nigel on his river cruise last year won't hurt her chances with the kippers.Sandpit said:Vauxhall is a fascinating seat, Kate Hoey has a huge majority but the LDs are pushing hard and the Tories have a young and energetic local candidate in Dorothy Theis who doesn't look like she's going to soft pedal. Not forgetting of course our own @Lennon, of the Pirate Party, ooh arrgghhh!
Kate must have a huge personal vote from 28 years as MP, she got 53% last time so I just can't see that much of a majority being overturned. If the LDs do make a big push and campaign negatively on Hoey and the EU, can she get some tactical Con Leave votes and squeeze out the small UKIP vote from 2015?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vauxhall_(UK_Parliament_constituency)
In theory it's a really safe seat, but if the LDs do go hard on Hoey with the Brexit angle it could well turn into a three way marginal. But as is often said on here, such obvious personal decapitation strategies don't usually work.0 -
Yup - and maybe in Scotland - what price Tom Watson in the W. Bromwich and Angus Robertson in Angus or even Angry Salmond in gordon ?SandyRentool said:So if the swing is this small in London, it must be stratospheric in the North and Midlands...
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Hope so. It wouldn't hurt for some of the pollsters to do some Midlands and Northern polling just to check.SandyRentool said:So if the swing is this small in London, it must be stratospheric in the North and Midlands...
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Do we really believe that voters are more or less equating miliband and Corbyn, and that the vast majority of the polling change is just due to Kippers going blue?
Surely not...? Corbyn is a joke, a liability, and IRA sympathiser, a borderline commie.
Tories need to start pointing this out to the seemingly epically inattentive public!
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The Holy Trinity?felix said:
Yup - and maybe in Scotland - what price Tom Watson in the W. Bromwich and Angus Robertson in Angus or even Angry Salmond in gordon ?SandyRentool said:So if the swing is this small in London, it must be stratospheric in the North and Midlands...
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https://twitter.com/TSEofPB/status/862216458763476993felix said:
Yup - and maybe in Scotland - what price Tom Watson in the W. Bromwich and Angus Robertson in Angus or even Angry Salmond in gordon ?SandyRentool said:So if the swing is this small in London, it must be stratospheric in the North and Midlands...
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Maybe in the final week of the campaign?JonCisBack said:Do we really believe that voters are more or less equating miliband and Corbyn, and that the vast majority of the polling change is just due to Kippers going blue?
Surely not...? Corbyn is a joke, a liability, and IRA sympathiser, a borderline commie.
Tories need to start pointing this out to the seemingly epically inattentive public!0 -
The size of the LAB>CON swing will be determined by the number of kipper votes to squeeze. This is really worrying for LAB in many of its heartlandstlg86 said:
Hope so. It wouldn't hurt for some of the pollsters to do some Midlands and Northern polling just to check.SandyRentool said:So if the swing is this small in London, it must be stratospheric in the North and Midlands...
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Moray.felix said:
Yup - and maybe in Scotland - what price Tom Watson in the W. Bromwich and Angus Robertson in Angus or even Angry Salmond in gordon ?SandyRentool said:So if the swing is this small in London, it must be stratospheric in the North and Midlands...
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Bigger but not stratospheric . I am not sure how many people would be covered by this poll but if we guess 6m and the swing here is 2% and the average swing over 64m is 5.5% then, if my arithmetic is right, the swing elsewhere is 5.86%.SandyRentool said:So if the swing is this small in London, it must be stratospheric in the North and Midlands...
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Didn't she know that??TheScreamingEagles said:Haha. One of my Corbynite friends is having a proper meltdown
Wanted to know if CPS stood for Conservative Protection Squad and it full of public school Tories?
She's gone ever so quiet after I told what job the previous DPP has these days and who his boss is.0 -
She didn't, she's 22Carolus_Rex said:
Didn't she know that??TheScreamingEagles said:Haha. One of my Corbynite friends is having a proper meltdown
Wanted to know if CPS stood for Conservative Protection Squad and it full of public school Tories?
She's gone ever so quiet after I told what job the previous DPP has these days and who his boss is.0 -
Afternoon, Mr.D.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, does look a bit difficult for both groups. Still, Japan are probably miffed too.
One point to consider about the Spanish GP is that the current odds suggest Mercedes are moderately strong favourites.
That might be confirmed in practice - in which case I don't think the odds will move a lot pre-race. If (as I suspect) Ferrari are going to have a slight edge in Spain, then well worth having a dabble on Vettel or Raikkonen ahead of FP1.0 -
I've bet on the Conservatives in this seat and I'm impatient to collect winnings. But I'll have to wait until 8 June. You can't hurry a Moray mint.TheScreamingEagles said:
Moray.felix said:
Yup - and maybe in Scotland - what price Tom Watson in the W. Bromwich and Angus Robertson in Angus or even Angry Salmond in gordon ?SandyRentool said:So if the swing is this small in London, it must be stratospheric in the North and Midlands...
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Are you emulating SeanT?TheScreamingEagles said:
She didn't, she's 22Carolus_Rex said:
Didn't she know that??TheScreamingEagles said:Haha. One of my Corbynite friends is having a proper meltdown
Wanted to know if CPS stood for Conservative Protection Squad and it full of public school Tories?
She's gone ever so quiet after I told what job the previous DPP has these days and who his boss is.0 -
It'd certainly be a smart punter who bet against Robertson winning in Angus.felix said:
Yup - and maybe in Scotland - what price Tom Watson in the W. Bromwich and Angus Robertson in Angus or even Angry Salmond in gordon ?SandyRentool said:So if the swing is this small in London, it must be stratospheric in the North and Midlands...
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What, educating the next generation ?Richard_Nabavi said:
Are you emulating SeanT?TheScreamingEagles said:
She didn't, she's 22Carolus_Rex said:
Didn't she know that??TheScreamingEagles said:Haha. One of my Corbynite friends is having a proper meltdown
Wanted to know if CPS stood for Conservative Protection Squad and it full of public school Tories?
She's gone ever so quiet after I told what job the previous DPP has these days and who his boss is.0 -
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Comparing a poll with the last GE is one way of looking at the numbers, and a legitimate one if looking at gains and losses.
However, in terms of who's moving forwards and back on a shorter timescale, comparing with the most recent equivalent poll is more usual. On that basis:
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I vaguely remember you predicting Scottish Labour holding up two years back...DavidL said:
Bigger but not stratospheric . I am not sure how many people would be covered by this poll but if we guess 6m and the swing here is 2% and the average swing over 64m is 5.5% then, if my arithmetic is right, the swing elsewhere is 5.86%.SandyRentool said:So if the swing is this small in London, it must be stratospheric in the North and Midlands...
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It's also worth remembering that a very positive-sounding Red Bull are bringing what amounts to a brand new car with them to Spain. They're certainly talking the talk of being right up there with the silver and red cars.Nigelb said:
Afternoon, Mr.D.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, does look a bit difficult for both groups. Still, Japan are probably miffed too.
One point to consider about the Spanish GP is that the current odds suggest Mercedes are moderately strong favourites.
That might be confirmed in practice - in which case I don't think the odds will move a lot pre-race. If (as I suspect) Ferrari are going to have a slight edge in Spain, then well worth having a dabble on Vettel or Raikkonen ahead of FP1.0 -
Don't forget the ultra-marginal Ilford North!0
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/862265729718128641
and this is what Trump has just retweeted
https://twitter.com/DRUDGE_REPORT/status/8622676471314391040 -
@WikiGuido: WOW! Caroline Lucas tells @afneil "I can't remember the name" of the person who offered the Greens a £250k bung to stand aside in Richmond0
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Certainly - it should be a battle-TRAIN!TheScreamingEagles said:
[Farron] should have been asked, does he consider the Tory Battlebus a sin?JackW said:
Almost a funny from Farron ....Scott_P said:@SkyNewsBreak: Liberal Democrat leader Tim Farron says "the Conservative Party driven a battlebus and horses right the way through the spirit of the law"
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Good luck to them. I'll believe it when I see it.Sandpit said:
It's also worth remembering that a very positive-sounding Red Bull are bringing what amounts to a brand new car with them to Spain. They're certainly talking the talk of being right up there with the silver and red cars.Nigelb said:
Afternoon, Mr.D.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, does look a bit difficult for both groups. Still, Japan are probably miffed too.
One point to consider about the Spanish GP is that the current odds suggest Mercedes are moderately strong favourites.
That might be confirmed in practice - in which case I don't think the odds will move a lot pre-race. If (as I suspect) Ferrari are going to have a slight edge in Spain, then well worth having a dabble on Vettel or Raikkonen ahead of FP1.0 -
Yeah. I did a piece on it last month.SandyRentool said:So if the swing is this small in London, it must be stratospheric in the North and Midlands...
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2017/04/01/the-multiplier-effect-regional-social-and-brexit-swing-make-a-bad-story-worse-for-lab/0 -
@CillizzaCNN: Donald Trump has sent 3 tweets defending his decision to fire Comey and retweeted the Drudge Report twice.
It is 7:30 am.0 -
Here's a little-diddy battle-TRAIN!Sunil_Prasannan said:FPT
Certainly - it should be a battle-TRAIN!TheScreamingEagles said:
[Farron] should have been asked, does he consider the Tory Battlebus a sin?JackW said:
Almost a funny from Farron ....Scott_P said:@SkyNewsBreak: Liberal Democrat leader Tim Farron says "the Conservative Party driven a battlebus and horses right the way through the spirit of the law"
https://inlanding.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/7b194d2c.jpg0 -
Indeed. After being two seconds off the pace last time out in Russia, there's a lot of catching up to do!Nigelb said:
Good luck to them. I'll believe it when I see it.Sandpit said:
It's also worth remembering that a very positive-sounding Red Bull are bringing what amounts to a brand new car with them to Spain. They're certainly talking the talk of being right up there with the silver and red cars.Nigelb said:
Afternoon, Mr.D.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, does look a bit difficult for both groups. Still, Japan are probably miffed too.
One point to consider about the Spanish GP is that the current odds suggest Mercedes are moderately strong favourites.
That might be confirmed in practice - in which case I don't think the odds will move a lot pre-race. If (as I suspect) Ferrari are going to have a slight edge in Spain, then well worth having a dabble on Vettel or Raikkonen ahead of FP1.0 -
With that bet you might just be a sucker!AlastairMeeks said:
I've bet on the Conservatives in this seat and I'm impatient to collect winnings. But I'll have to wait until 8 June. You can't hurry a Moray mint.TheScreamingEagles said:
Moray.felix said:
Yup - and maybe in Scotland - what price Tom Watson in the W. Bromwich and Angus Robertson in Angus or even Angry Salmond in gordon ?SandyRentool said:So if the swing is this small in London, it must be stratospheric in the North and Midlands...
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Based on this poll in Londdon the Tories would gain Ealing Central and Acton, Brentford and Isleworth, Ilford North, Hampstead and Kilburn and Enfield North from Labour but lose Twickenham, Kingston and Surbiton and Sutton and Cheam to the LDs. So the Tories would still make a net gain of 2 seats in London but they will pick up many more elsewhere. You can also probably swap Richmond Park for Sutton in terms of the 3rd LD gain0
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Romney, Hythe and Dymchurch?JosiasJessop said:
Here's a little-diddy battle-TRAIN!Sunil_Prasannan said:FPT
Certainly - it should be a battle-TRAIN!TheScreamingEagles said:
[Farron] should have been asked, does he consider the Tory Battlebus a sin?JackW said:
Almost a funny from Farron ....Scott_P said:@SkyNewsBreak: Liberal Democrat leader Tim Farron says "the Conservative Party driven a battlebus and horses right the way through the spirit of the law"
https://inlanding.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/7b194d2c.jpg 0 -
First good news for Tories story from Osborne's standard, totally unconnected to the fact it relates to Cameron and Osborne's 2015 election campaign of courseScott_P said:0 -
Me tooAlastairMeeks said:
I've bet on the Conservatives in this seat and I'm impatient to collect winnings. But I'll have to wait until 8 June. You can't hurry a Moray mint.TheScreamingEagles said:
Moray.felix said:
Yup - and maybe in Scotland - what price Tom Watson in the W. Bromwich and Angus Robertson in Angus or even Angry Salmond in gordon ?SandyRentool said:So if the swing is this small in London, it must be stratospheric in the North and Midlands...
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Yes. One of the perks of working, having a flat, and going out in a city with the largest student population in the UK.Richard_Nabavi said:
Are you emulating SeanT?TheScreamingEagles said:
She didn't, she's 22Carolus_Rex said:
Didn't she know that??TheScreamingEagles said:Haha. One of my Corbynite friends is having a proper meltdown
Wanted to know if CPS stood for Conservative Protection Squad and it full of public school Tories?
She's gone ever so quiet after I told what job the previous DPP has these days and who his boss is.0 -
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Not his job to be impartial... his job is to raise profile, increase readership and sell advertising.Scott_P said:
Just proved how impartial George will be as editor...HYUFD said:First good news for Tories from Osborne's standard, totally unconnected to the fact it relates to Cameron and Osborne's 2015 election campaign of course
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While every copper knows, it really stands for "Couldn't Prosecute Satan".TheScreamingEagles said:Haha. One of my Corbynite friends is having a proper meltdown
Wanted to know if CPS stood for Conservative Protection Squad and it full of public school Tories?
She's gone ever so quiet after I told what job the previous DPP has these days and who his boss is.0 -
The bet for me after this poll is a 4-1 Lib Dem gain treble of Kingston,Bermondsey and Twickenham to include in a Round Robin which secures the magic of the up-and-down double.
The regional polls were pretty good in GE2015.A regional poll in the South West was a particularly good betting guide to Tory gains and Lib Dem losses last time.Bath,Wells,Yeovil and St Ives need to remain a minimum.
The also lose the incumbency effect in Southport and the Tory decapitation strategy has been backed by ukip in north Norfolk.7-4 on a Tory win is too big.
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Brentford and Isleworth, Ilford North, Hampstead and Kilburn and Enfield North are goners , I think.HYUFD said:Based on this poll in Londdon the Tories would gain Ealing Central and Acton, Brentford and Isleworth, Ilford North, Hampstead and Kilburn and Enfield North from Labour but lose Twickenham, Kingston and Surbiton and Sutton and Cheam to the LDs. So the Tories would still make a net gain of 2 seats in London but they will pick up many more elsewhere. You can also probably swap Richmond Park for Sutton in terms of the 3rd LD gain
Ealing Central and Acton, I am not so sure. Greens are standing down. I don't think Bermondsey will fall.0 -
Yep. Quite an enjoyable ride, although a friend of mine looks down on it as not being a toy train, and not one of the sainted Colonel's lines.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Romney, Hythe and Dymchurch?JosiasJessop said:
Here's a little-diddy battle-TRAIN!Sunil_Prasannan said:FPT
Certainly - it should be a battle-TRAIN!TheScreamingEagles said:
[Farron] should have been asked, does he consider the Tory Battlebus a sin?JackW said:
Almost a funny from Farron ....Scott_P said:@SkyNewsBreak: Liberal Democrat leader Tim Farron says "the Conservative Party driven a battlebus and horses right the way through the spirit of the law"
https://inlanding.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/7b194d2c.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._F._Stephens0 -
The net is closing !Scott_P said:@CillizzaCNN: Donald Trump has sent 3 tweets defending his decision to fire Comey and retweeted the Drudge Report twice.
It is 7:30 am.0 -
Presumably, as said by just about everybody, also the East coast and Southern Shire England. It may well be that the Labour urban seats remain solid, big swings in the Shires and very few marginals at all for 2022.SandyRentool said:So if the swing is this small in London, it must be stratospheric in the North and Midlands...
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However, it also means loads of votes extra in Kent, Essex, Suffolf, Norfolk, Cambridgeshite, Lincolnshite.david_herdson said:
Yeah. I did a piece on it last month.SandyRentool said:So if the swing is this small in London, it must be stratospheric in the North and Midlands...
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2017/04/01/the-multiplier-effect-regional-social-and-brexit-swing-make-a-bad-story-worse-for-lab/
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Bermondsey would stay Labour on this poll I think Ealing more likely to go Tory than heavily Remain Hampsteadsurbiton said:
Brentford and Isleworth, Ilford North, Hampstead and Kilburn and Enfield North are goners , I think.HYUFD said:Based on this poll in Londdon the Tories would gain Ealing Central and Acton, Brentford and Isleworth, Ilford North, Hampstead and Kilburn and Enfield North from Labour but lose Twickenham, Kingston and Surbiton and Sutton and Cheam to the LDs. So the Tories would still make a net gain of 2 seats in London but they will pick up many more elsewhere. You can also probably swap Richmond Park for Sutton in terms of the 3rd LD gain
Ealing Central and Acton, I am not so sure. Greens are standing down. I don't think Bermondsey will fall.0 -
Yes the London Osborne Standard will of course be totally objective on May's governmentScott_P said:
Just proved how impartial George will be as editor...HYUFD said:First good news for Tories from Osborne's standard, totally unconnected to the fact it relates to Cameron and Osborne's 2015 election campaign of course
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The CPS decision is not surprising. They don't have the balls!
So, now it is open season regarding expenses. The Tories win twice over !0 -
Have you written any thrillers yet?TheScreamingEagles said:
Yes. One of the perks of working, having a flat, and going out in a city with the largest student population in the UK.Richard_Nabavi said:
Are you emulating SeanT?TheScreamingEagles said:
She didn't, she's 22Carolus_Rex said:
Didn't she know that??TheScreamingEagles said:Haha. One of my Corbynite friends is having a proper meltdown
Wanted to know if CPS stood for Conservative Protection Squad and it full of public school Tories?
She's gone ever so quiet after I told what job the previous DPP has these days and who his boss is. 0 -
Not much going on today.
I guess clearing the decks and leaving the field empty for a third party to slaughter the Tory party always had the chance of leaving a great big void.
Never mind, more time to listen to Labour having numeric difficulty, class size blind spots and Caroline forgetting who offered her 250k.0 -
Why is this one different from Mike's header ?david_herdson said:Comparing a poll with the last GE is one way of looking at the numbers, and a legitimate one if looking at gains and losses.
However, in terms of who's moving forwards and back on a shorter timescale, comparing with the most recent equivalent poll is more usual. On that basis:
https://twitter.com/NCPoliticsUK/status/8622518510178508800 -
But in the thread header, OGH asked "The big question for the blues is whether their gains can offset possible losses to the LDs." Surely he couldn't have made a miscalculation of this magnitude?HYUFD said:Based on this poll in Londdon the Tories would gain Ealing Central and Acton, Brentford and Isleworth, Ilford North, Hampstead and Kilburn and Enfield North from Labour but lose Twickenham, Kingston and Surbiton and Sutton and Cheam to the LDs. So the Tories would still make a net gain of 2 seats in London but they will pick up many more elsewhere. You can also probably swap Richmond Park for Sutton in terms of the 3rd LD gain
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Lucas better get her memory back sharpish....Scott_P said:0 -
What happens if Lucas has genuinely forgotten who offered the bung ?0
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Or couldn't see how the cases had a chance of conviction.surbiton said:The CPS decision is not surprising. They don't have the balls!
So, now it is open season regarding expenses. The Tories win twice over !
I won't be shocked if Thanet results in charges. It may still be difficult to get a successful prosecution.
Don't block out the memory that all three main parties were fined after the 2015 election for spending irregularities. Labour and LibDems are implicated in the same practices.0 -
Surely not? However as a former LD activist he is bound to big up his own team where he canpeter_from_putney said:
But in the thread header, OGH asked "The big question for the blues is whether their gains can offset possible losses to the LDs." Surely he couldn't have made a miscalculation of this magnitude?HYUFD said:Based on this poll in Londdon the Tories would gain Ealing Central and Acton, Brentford and Isleworth, Ilford North, Hampstead and Kilburn and Enfield North from Labour but lose Twickenham, Kingston and Surbiton and Sutton and Cheam to the LDs. So the Tories would still make a net gain of 2 seats in London but they will pick up many more elsewhere. You can also probably swap Richmond Park for Sutton in terms of the 3rd LD gain
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