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Mortimer said:

isam said:

AlastairMeeks said:

That David Goodhart article is just Common People in prose, with a side order of martyrdom.

'Common people' is probably the most succinct and accessible description of why the country is divided/whyBrexit happened.

https://youtu.be/yuTMWgOduFM

Isn't there some connection to a certain Greek ex-Finance minister too?

AlastairMeeks said:

Casino_Royale said:

AlastairMeeks said:

That David Goodhart article is just Common People in prose, with a side order of martyrdom.

You'd do well to read it again, and again, until you understand it and appreciate it.

He is bang on the money.

I've read it twice. It's not half as profound as you or he thinks it is.

Casino_Royale said:

AlastairMeeks said:

Casino_Royale said:

AlastairMeeks said:

That David Goodhart article is just Common People in prose, with a side order of martyrdom.

You'd do well to read it again, and again, until you understand it and appreciate it.

He is bang on the money.

I've read it twice. It's not half as profound as you or he thinks it is.

Oh, it very much is. But he is clearly asking far too much in humility from you to be able to see the truth of what he's saying - because you are part of the problem he describes.

Andrew Marr gets it, of course. But he is far less pompous and almost certainly cleverer than you.

AndyJS said:

Mhairi Black has tweeted that it's unfair Scotland has fewer MPs than London. Perhaps she doesn't know that London has about 3.5 million more people.

Cyclefree said:

Completely O/T and apologies in advance but on the Irish question:

Sometimes you have to do deals with bad people and McGuinness – eventually – played his part in trying to sort out the mess he created. But let's not imagine virtues that did not exist. Whatever he did in the peace process did not involve saying sorry for what the IRA did. Nor did it involve justice for the dead and wounded and the widows and widowers and orphans and all those deprived of people they loved. They should not be forgotten, today of all days.

Making this simple point somehow seems controversial. As if it is somehow not done to look past the cheery smile. All that killing and pain. And for what? A NI still in the UK and what has been achieved could have been achieved decades ago if the men of peace had been as celebrated and fawned over and supported as much as the men of violence.

We live in a meritocracy where people with no experience or knowledge whatsoever can be appointed to senior jobs and where any notion that man is a moral animal and can make a choice between good and evil and be held accountable for his/her choices is seen as something quaintly old-fashioned if not downright perverse.

There. I have got that off my chest.

Sorry.

Off to have my dinner now.

Cyclefree said:

Completely O/T and apologies in advance but on the Irish question:

Sometimes you have to do deals with bad people and McGuinness – eventually – played his part in trying to sort out the mess he created. But let's not imagine virtues that did not exist. Whatever he did in the peace process did not involve saying sorry for what the IRA did. Nor did it involve justice for the dead and wounded and the widows and widowers and orphans and all those deprived of people they loved. They should not be forgotten, today of all days.

Making this simple point somehow seems controversial. As if it is somehow not done to look past the cheery smile. All that killing and pain. And for what? A NI still in the UK and what has been achieved could have been achieved decades ago if the men of peace had been as celebrated and fawned over and supported as much as the men of violence.

We live in a meritocracy where people with no experience or knowledge whatsoever can be appointed to senior jobs and where any notion that man is a moral animal and can make a choice between good and evil and be held accountable for his/her choices is seen as something quaintly old-fashioned if not downright perverse.

There. I have got that off my chest.

Sorry.

Off to have my dinner now.

OldKingCole said:

Cyclefree said:

Completely O/T and apologies in advance but on the Irish question:

Sometimes you have to do deals with bad people and McGuinness – eventually – played his part in trying to sort out the mess he created. But let's not imagine virtues that did not exist. Whatever he did in the peace process did not involve saying sorry for what the IRA did. Nor did it involve justice for the dead and wounded and the widows and widowers and orphans and all those deprived of people they loved. They should not be forgotten, today of all days.

Making this simple point somehow seems controversial. As if it is somehow not done to look past the cheery smile. All that killing and pain. And for what? A NI still in the UK and what has been achieved could have been achieved decades ago if the men of peace had been as celebrated and fawned over and supported as much as the men of violence.

We live in a meritocracy where people with no experience or knowledge whatsoever can be appointed to senior jobs and where any notion that man is a moral animal and can make a choice between good and evil and be held accountable for his/her choices is seen as something quaintly old-fashioned if not downright perverse.

There. I have got that off my chest.

Sorry.

Off to have my dinner now.

TBH I don't think we would have got anywhere near the present power-sharing/equality for the minority community without the violence. The majority community were just NOT going to have it.

Very, very sadly.

isam said:

AlastairMeeks said:

isam said:

AlastairMeeks said:

That David Goodhart article is just Common People in prose, with a side order of martyrdom.

'Common people' is probably the most succinct and accessible description of why the country is divided/whyBrexit happened.

https://youtu.be/yuTMWgOduFM

In my experience everyone thinks they're Jarvis Cocker in that song, no matter how implausible.

I have been told I look like him! And my hair is very similar to that at the mo... I took it as an insult at the time but I'd probably have it now

AlastairMeeks said:

@Cyclefree all that is true. But a Northern Ireland without late period Martin McGuinness would be a much worse, much sadder, much bloodier and much more backward-looking place.

The Prime Minister's words were spot on.

kle4 said:

AndyJS said:

Mhairi Black has tweeted that it's unfair Scotland has fewer MPs than London. Perhaps she doesn't know that London has about 3.5 million more people.

Is she usually such a fool?

AlastairMeeks said:

isam said:

AlastairMeeks said:

isam said:

AlastairMeeks said:

That David Goodhart article is just Common People in prose, with a side order of martyrdom.

'Common people' is probably the most succinct and accessible description of why the country is divided/whyBrexit happened.

https://youtu.be/yuTMWgOduFM

In my experience everyone thinks they're Jarvis Cocker in that song, no matter how implausible.

I have been told I look like him! And my hair is very similar to that at the mo... I took it as an insult at the time but I'd probably have it now

I'd settle for hair.

NickPalmer said:

some here dislike Simon with remarkable venom.

TheScreamingEagles said:

ydoethur said:

NickPalmer said:

some here dislike Simon with remarkable venom.

What is remarkable about disliking Simon? He's a rude, lazy, arrogant sycophant who has no discernible principles, no original ideas, no capacity for independent thought or critical evaluation, and who has successively failed as a journalist, politician, campaigner and most recently all the lot together.

Oh behave. Only a man of erudition, awesome journalistic skills could have written that magnum opus.

ydoethur said:

NickPalmer said:

some here dislike Simon with remarkable venom.

What is remarkable about disliking Simon? He's a rude, lazy, arrogant and extraordinarily stupid sycophant who has no discernible principles, no original ideas, no capacity for independent thought or critical evaluation, and who has successively failed as a journalist, politician, campaigner and most recently all the lot together. He is utterly unfit to run a village post office, never mind the West Midlands.

The suggestion that he should make the campaign about him rather than Jez to improve his chances is the equivalent of someone advising Khrushchev to play down his links to Stalin and instead big up his friendship with Yezhov to secure the post of General Secretary.

What is more remarkable in many ways is that there still people out there odd enough to actually rate this gurning fool. Frankly, it doesn't say much for the intellect of the average Labour member in the West Midlands that they preferred him to Bedser.

He may still win of course. But he is testing the theory of 'put up a donkey with a red rosette and they'll vote for it' far beyond the point of safety.

SeanT said:

Charles said:

Mortimer said:

Tissue_Price said:

AndyJS said:

Thought-provoking article by David Goodhart:

"Why I left my liberal London tribe
As a divided Britain prepares for Brexit, David Goodhart reveals why he broke up with the metropolitan elite"

https://www.ft.com/content/39a0867a-0974-11e7-ac5a-903b21361b43

I think Goodhart's book is likely to become the set text on Brexit and Mayism. Though his bright-lines division of the population into Somewheres (50%) and Anywheres (25%)* is obviously an oversimplification, it does seem to have a good deal of explanatory power.


* with 25% exhibiting elements of both

Agreed.

@Casino_Royale and other PBers keen on an Article 50 celebration. How about next Wednesday in Town?

I'll be around and either poor but happy or flush but unhappy after what promises to be the best auction of the YTD.

Any venue prefs?

Works for me although not too late as failing into s board meeting at 00:30 that morning

I might be around. Fuck it. Let's quaff a silver tankard of champagne JUST to annoy the Remainers.

SeanT said:

Charles said:

Mortimer said:

Tissue_Price said:

AndyJS said:

Thought-provoking article by David Goodhart:

"Why I left my liberal London tribe
As a divided Britain prepares for Brexit, David Goodhart reveals why he broke up with the metropolitan elite"

https://www.ft.com/content/39a0867a-0974-11e7-ac5a-903b21361b43

I think Goodhart's book is likely to become the set text on Brexit and Mayism. Though his bright-lines division of the population into Somewheres (50%) and Anywheres (25%)* is obviously an oversimplification, it does seem to have a good deal of explanatory power.


* with 25% exhibiting elements of both

Agreed.

@Casino_Royale and other PBers keen on an Article 50 celebration. How about next Wednesday in Town?

I'll be around and either poor but happy or flush but unhappy after what promises to be the best auction of the YTD.

Any venue prefs?

Works for me although not too late as failing into s board meeting at 00:30 that morning

I might be around. Fuck it. Let's quaff a silver tankard of champagne JUST to annoy the Remainers.

SeanT said:

Hello PB. I wrote another 3240 words today. In two hours.

Tomorrow I will finish the first draft. A 93,000 word novel in two months and one day.

No idea if it is any good, could be anything from dreck to worldbeater, but I sure did it quick.

Here's the thing. During the writing of this novel, when the writing has been most intense/prolific, I have been sleeping 10 or more hours a day, sometimes 12. In Thailand this came in the form of 2-3 hour siestas, then another 8 hours normal sleep, here in London I just conk out for 11 hours. Go to bed at 1am, wake up at noon. Write. Repeat.

How odd is that? Has anyone else ever experienced something like this? Intense mental activity, requiring huge amounts of kip?

SeanT said:

isam said:

Sean_F said:

SeanT said:

Charles said:

Mortimer said:

Tissue_Price said:

AndyJS said:

Thought-provoking article by David Goodhart:

"Why I left my liberal London tribe
As a divided Britain prepares for Brexit, David Goodhart reveals why he broke up with the metropolitan elite"

https://www.ft.com/content/39a0867a-0974-11e7-ac5a-903b21361b43

I think Goodhart's book is likely to become the set text on Brexit and Mayism. Though his bright-lines division of the population into Somewheres (50%) and Anywheres (25%)* is obviously an oversimplification, it does seem to have a good deal of explanatory power.


* with 25% exhibiting elements of both

Agreed.

@Casino_Royale and other PBers keen on an Article 50 celebration. How about next Wednesday in Town?

I'll be around and either poor but happy or flush but unhappy after what promises to be the best auction of the YTD.

Any venue prefs?

Works for me although not too late as failing into s board meeting at 00:30 that morning

I might be around. Fuck it. Let's quaff a silver tankard of champagne JUST to annoy the Remainers.

I could be around. The Cork & Bottle in Leicester Square would be a good location. Or Davys in St. James.

Or Rules!

I can sign four people into the Groucho. Nice champagne.

TheScreamingEagles said:

If you want a laugh/be depressed, have a browse through this twitter account.

https://twitter.com/EasterWatch/with_replies

It's collating all those numpties who think Cadbury's are ignoring the Christian roots of Easter and pandering by making Easter Eggs halal.

https://twitter.com/EasterWatch/with_replies

The story is here

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/cadburys-easter-egg-halal-twitter-christian_uk_58d105c9e4b00705db525f12

TheScreamingEagles said:

Scrapheap_as_was said:

2017 Thread of the Year.

Next.

Wait until you see my Sunday thread.

Scrapheap_as_was said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Scrapheap_as_was said:

2017 Thread of the Year.

Next.

Wait until you see my Sunday thread.

I shall indeed... 2 weeks more to admire the PB league positions too

SeanT said:

Toms said:

SeanT said:

Hello PB. I wrote another 3240 words today. In two hours.

Tomorrow I will finish the first draft. A 93,000 word novel in two months and one day.

No idea if it is any good, could be anything from dreck to worldbeater, but I sure did it quick.

Here's the thing. During the writing of this novel, when the writing has been most intense/prolific, I have been sleeping 10 or more hours a day, sometimes 12. In Thailand this came in the form of 2-3 hour siestas, then another 8 hours normal sleep, here in London I just conk out for 11 hours. Go to bed at 1am, wake up at noon. Write. Repeat.

How odd is that? Has anyone else ever experienced something like this? Intense mental activity, requiring huge amounts of kip?

When young I had a pure mathematician for a room mate. He would take a long time, maybe days or weeks simply mulling things over, and then he'd sit down and produce a spotless solution/proof. A few years later, he supplied a massive proof of a generalisation of a speculation by the great C F Gauss, thereby becoming famous in the community of number theorists. He had been developing towards that result from early childhood. You had to more or less set a bomb off to wake him up in the morning to go to classes.

On a lower level, I often do my best planning on long walks, preferably alone & away from bloody cars. No headphones.
For me napping is a forte.
I rise at 5am if not earlier.

That's been my experience with this book. I basically thought about it for an entire year - location, character, narrative devices, plot, even basic dialogue. Just sat there and THOUGHT ("diligent indolence", as Keats called it). I was accused of laziness, but I was really thinking.

Then when the moment came, in the Dynasty Grande hotel in Bangkok, in late January, I typed the first sentence: "The dead birds are neatly arranged in a row."

And that was it - wham. Suddenly I was up and running, the voice felt good, I wrote 2000 words the first day. And it kept on coming.

Nice feeling, but bloody exhausting.

I'd better shut the F up now, as this book could very easily be total, total shite and I am a flailing idiot exulting over a career-ending piece of dreck. EEEEEEK.

But at least I ended my career swiftly, if that turns out to be the case. If so, I shall take up wild sea-bass fishing.

SeanT said:

It's fair to say Norman Tebbit remains a man not given to the mincing of words.

https://twitter.com/WelshToy/status/844116976121384960

Sean_F said:

SeanT said:

Toms said:

SeanT said:

Hello PB. I wrote another 3240 words today. In two hours.

Tomorrow I will finish the first draft. A 93,000 word novel in two months and one day.

No idea if it is any good, could be anything from dreck to worldbeater, but I sure did it quick.

Here's the thing. During the writing of this novel, when the writing has been most intense/prolific, I have been sleeping 10 or more hours a day, sometimes 12. In Thailand this came in the form of 2-3 hour siestas, then another 8 hours normal sleep, here in London I just conk out for 11 hours. Go to bed at 1am, wake up at noon. Write. Repeat.

How odd is that? Has anyone else ever experienced something like this? Intense mental activity, requiring huge amounts of kip?

When young I had a pure mathematician for a room mate. He would take a long time, maybe days or weeks simply mulling things over, and then he'd sit down and produce a spotless solution/proof. A few years later, he supplied a massive proof of a generalisation of a speculation by the great C F Gauss, thereby becoming famous in the community of number theorists. He had been developing towards that result from early childhood. You had to more or less set a bomb off to wake him up in the morning to go to classes.

On a lower level, I often do my best planning on long walks, preferably alone & away from bloody cars. No headphones.
For me napping is a forte.
I rise at 5am if not earlier.

That's been my experience with this book. I basically thought about it for an entire year - location, character, narrative devices, plot, even basic dialogue. Just sat there and THOUGHT ("diligent indolence", as Keats called it). I was accused of laziness, but I was really thinking.

Then when the moment came, in the Dynasty Grande hotel in Bangkok, in late January, I typed the first sentence: "The dead birds are neatly arranged in a row."

And that was it - wham. Suddenly I was up and running, the voice felt good, I wrote 2000 words the first day. And it kept on coming.

Nice feeling, but bloody exhausting.

I'd better shut the F up now, as this book could very easily be total, total shite and I am a flailing idiot exulting over a career-ending piece of dreck. EEEEEEK.

But at least I ended my career swiftly, if that turns out to be the case. If so, I shall take up wild sea-bass fishing.

I bet you wrote your work more quickly than Anne Frank did.

SeanT said:

It's fair to say Norman Tebbit remains a man not given to the mincing of words.

https://twitter.com/WelshToy/status/844116976121384960

Pulpstar said:

AlastairMeeks said:

That David Goodhart article is just Common People in prose, with a side order of martyrdom.

It is a curious article. David says he has broken up with the metropolitan elite, but he's remaining in post as a chief wonk at a London based think tank, about as far from the common people as you can get really.

Mortimer said:

isam said:

SeanT said:

isam said:

Sean_F said:

SeanT said:

Charles said:

Mortimer said:

Tissue_Price said:

AndyJS said:

Thought-provoking article by David Goodhart:

"Why I left my liberal London tribe
As a divided Britain prepares for Brexit, David Goodhart reveals why he broke up with the metropolitan elite"

https://www.ft.com/content/39a0867a-0974-11e7-ac5a-903b21361b43

I think Goodhart's book is likely to become the set text on Brexit and Mayism. Though his bright-lines division of the population into Somewheres (50%) and Anywheres (25%)* is obviously an oversimplification, it does seem to have a good deal of explanatory power.


* with 25% exhibiting elements of both

Agreed.

@Casino_Royale and other PBers keen on an Article 50 celebration. How about next Wednesday in Town?

I'll be around and either poor but happy or flush but unhappy after what promises to be the best auction of the YTD.

Any venue prefs?

Works for me although not too late as failing into s board meeting at 00:30 that morning

I might be around. Fuck it. Let's quaff a silver tankard of champagne JUST to annoy the Remainers.

I could be around. The Cork & Bottle in Leicester Square would be a good location. Or Davys in St. James.

Or Rules!

I can sign four people into the Groucho. Nice champagne.

Well I'd love to... but there will surely be more than four?

Sounds tremendous but looks like there are about 8 keen already (isam, Cyclefree, C_R, Sean's x 2, Charles and TSE). Both Sean_F's wine bars look good - alternatively there's a pub off Berkeley sq west side that I can't remember the name of...

SeanT said:

It's fair to say Norman Tebbit remains a man not given to the mincing of words.

https://twitter.com/WelshToy/status/844116976121384960

Sean_F said:

Mortimer said:

isam said:

SeanT said:

isam said:

Sean_F said:

SeanT said:

Charles said:

Mortimer said:

Tissue_Price said:

AndyJS said:

Thought-provoking article by David Goodhart:

"Why I left my liberal London tribe
As a divided Britain prepares for Brexit, David Goodhart reveals why he broke up with the metropolitan elite"

https://www.ft.com/content/39a0867a-0974-11e7-ac5a-903b21361b43

I think Goodhart's book is likely to become the set text on Brexit and Mayism. Though his bright-lines division of the population into Somewheres (50%) and Anywheres (25%)* is obviously an oversimplification, it does seem to have a good deal of explanatory power.


* with 25% exhibiting elements of both

Agreed.

@Casino_Royale and other PBers keen on an Article 50 celebration. How about next Wednesday in Town?

I'll be around and either poor but happy or flush but unhappy after what promises to be the best auction of the YTD.

Any venue prefs?

Works for me although not too late as failing into s board meeting at 00:30 that morning

I might be around. Fuck it. Let's quaff a silver tankard of champagne JUST to annoy the Remainers.

I could be around. The Cork & Bottle in Leicester Square would be a good location. Or Davys in St. James.

Or Rules!

I can sign four people into the Groucho. Nice champagne.

Well I'd love to... but there will surely be more than four?

Sounds tremendous but looks like there are about 8 keen already (isam, Cyclefree, C_R, Sean's x 2, Charles and TSE). Both Sean_F's wine bars look good - alternatively there's a pub off Berkeley sq west side that I can't remember the name of...

Also, Truckles in Pied Bull Yard, Holborn, is good.

SouthamObserver said:

Surely Boisedale's is the place for you all to celebrate A50 day. You can toast Brexit and the Union at the same time. I'll be in Shenzhen doing the hard yards for our broken country in meetings and trying to explain to the Chinese, again, why we are leaving the Single Market. Something about halal easter eggs and bendy bananas, I'll say.

Enjoy it!!

HYUFD said:

SouthamObserver said:

Surely Boisedale's is the place for you all to celebrate A50 day. You can toast Brexit and the Union at the same time. I'll be in Shenzhen doing the hard yards for our broken country in meetings and trying to explain to the Chinese, again, why we are leaving the Single Market. Something about halal easter eggs and bendy bananas, I'll say.

Enjoy it!!

If the EU had an immigration policy as tough as China's there would never have been a Brexit

SeanT said:

One thing is for sure, MI5 and MI6 are still very very good at sowing doubt and fear in their enemies. I trust they are now all over Brussels.

Dixie said:

Restharrow said:

SeanT said:

It's fair to say Norman Tebbit remains a man not given to the mincing of words.

https://twitter.com/WelshToy/status/844116976121384960

Norman Tebbit and his wife suffered grievously, so he is fully entitled to his victim impact statement, and that should give one pause for thought. But one of the principles of Christianity (even the semi-Pagan variant known as Catholicism) is Redemption. Without Redemption we are all doomed (atheists excepted, obviously).

I've always agreed with every word Norman said. I've not changed my mind after this.

Sean_F said:

HYUFD said:

SeanT said:

It's fair to say Norman Tebbit remains a man not given to the mincing of words.

https://twitter.com/WelshToy/status/844116976121384960

John Kerry rather more gushing in his tribute
https://www.facebook.com/johnkerry/posts/10154190356892294

Pass the sick bag.

NickPalmer said:

Toms said:

When young I had a pure mathematician for a room mate. He would take a long time, maybe days or weeks simply mulling things over, and then he'd sit down and produce a spotless solution/proof. A few years later, he supplied a massive proof of a generalisation of a speculation by the great C F Gauss, thereby becoming famous in the community of number theorists. He had been developing towards that result from early childhood. You had to more or less set a bomb off to wake him up in the morning to go to classes.

On a lower level, I often do my best planning on long walks, preferably alone & away from bloody cars. No headphones.
For me napping is a forte.
I rise at 5am if not earlier.

When I did my PhD with Hugh Dowker, a leading light in point-set topology - he was just like that. Ask him a question and he'd close his eyes and think for some minutes. In the eary days I'd become uneasy - had he fallen asleep? Gone into a coma? Then he'd open them and give a complete answer with the entire proof.

But I *hated* doing my PhD because I don't think like that. Basically the PhD had to have a couple of dozen original thoughts, to be accumulated over 3 sodding YEARS. I'd sit on the balcony of the top-floor flat staring into space, or lie in bed with my purring cat nestling inside the duvet up to my shoulder, and think. Fruitlessly, for an average 29 days out of 30, 6, 8, 9 hours a day. Then just occasionally some minor chink of light would dawn.

I dedicated the thesis to the cat. She's the only one who enjoyed the process, and the only living being other than my tutor and invigilator who came close to actually reading the bloody thing.

The PhD got me a job (in IT) and has periodically impressed people who aren't mathematicians. But it was in my view an unpleasant waste of time in every other respect. I'd have enjoyed a flowing research project - history, perhaps. But waiting for ideas? It sucks. Credit to SeanT for sticking with it.

viewcode said:

Regular readers may remember a television genre I dubbed "Shit Brexit Telly", where some minutae of Britain is examined each week by a minor sleb, and usually terminates with "...our wonderful British countryside" whilst the drone pans overhead and the sleb quaffs cider whilst staring at a white cliff. Examples I knew of at the time was that stupid villages thing with Penelope Keith and that really stupid railway thing with Michael Portillo.

Problem is, examples are beginning to pile up. Leaving aside the ones about canals (yes really) and underground cables/pipelines (yes, really really), I now find to my horror there exists a program called 'Rivers with Jeremy Paxman'.

Oh. My. God.

There has to be some kind of Shit Brexit Telly Generator, along the lines of [subnational British characteristic] with [media twit/luvvie/ex-pol]. Things like:

Lakes with David Dimbleby
Great British Mountains with Bear Grylls
Our Beautiful National Parks with Felicity Kendal
Dogs! Crufts finalists with Paul O'Grady
Antennae with Peter Snow
Wonderful Wonderful British Flowers with Miranda Hart

If you can think of more examples of Shit Brexit Telly, real-life or not, please make them known.

Theuniondivvie said:

Rejoice.

https://twitter.com/FraserNelson/status/844244849733853184

williamglenn said:

Danny565 said:

https://twitter.com/newdawn1997/status/844096493023891456

If ever we needed a reminder that May was weak, weak, weak...

GIN1138 said:

HYUFD said:

SeanT said:

It's fair to say Norman Tebbit remains a man not given to the mincing of words.

https://twitter.com/WelshToy/status/844116976121384960

John Kerry rather more gushing in his tribute
https://www.facebook.com/johnkerry/posts/10154190356892294

I guess the difference in views is that McGuinness didn't try to murder John Kerry, unlike Lord and Lady Tebbit...

Tebbit's bitterness makes HMQ's magnanimity in recent years all the more remarkable though...

Restharrow said:

But one of the principles of Christianity (even the semi-Pagan variant known as Catholicism) is Redemption. Without Redemption we are all doomed (atheists excepted, obviously).

GIN1138 said:

HYUFD said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Rejoice.

https://twitter.com/FraserNelson/status/844244849733853184

He was also at Cameron's side in 2014 and 2015 when he won

I don't think Lynton and that guy from the US thought much to him though...

viewcode said:

Regular readers may remember a television genre I dubbed "Shit Brexit Telly", where some minutae of Britain is examined each week by a minor sleb, and usually terminates with "...our wonderful British countryside" whilst the drone pans overhead and the sleb quaffs cider whilst staring at a white cliff. Examples I knew of at the time was that stupid villages thing with Penelope Keith and that really stupid railway thing with Michael Portillo.

Problem is, examples are beginning to pile up. Leaving aside the ones about canals (yes really) and underground cables/pipelines (yes, really really), I now find to my horror there exists a program called 'Rivers with Jeremy Paxman'.

Oh. My. God.

There has to be some kind of Shit Brexit Telly Generator, along the lines of [subnational British characteristic] with [media twit/luvvie/ex-pol]. Things like:

Lakes with David Dimbleby
Great British Mountains with Bear Grylls
Our Beautiful National Parks with Felicity Kendal
Dogs! Crufts finalists with Paul O'Grady
Antennae with Peter Snow
Wonderful Wonderful British Flowers with Miranda Hart

If you can think of more examples of Shit Brexit Telly, real-life or not, please make them known.

SeanT said:

viewcode said:

Regular readers may remember a television genre I dubbed "Shit Brexit Telly", where some minutae of Britain is examined each week by a minor sleb, and usually terminates with "...our wonderful British countryside" whilst the drone pans overhead and the sleb quaffs cider whilst staring at a white cliff. Examples I knew of at the time was that stupid villages thing with Penelope Keith and that really stupid railway thing with Michael Portillo.

Problem is, examples are beginning to pile up. Leaving aside the ones about canals (yes really) and underground cables/pipelines (yes, really really), I now find to my horror there exists a program called 'Rivers with Jeremy Paxman'.

Oh. My. God.

There has to be some kind of Shit Brexit Telly Generator, along the lines of [subnational British characteristic] with [media twit/luvvie/ex-pol]. Things like:

Lakes with David Dimbleby
Great British Mountains with Bear Grylls
Our Beautiful National Parks with Felicity Kendal
Dogs! Crufts finalists with Paul O'Grady
Antennae with Peter Snow
Wonderful Wonderful British Flowers with Miranda Hart

If you can think of more examples of Shit Brexit Telly, real-life or not, please make them known.

lol. Very good. Worthy of Viz

Fry's Frys: best vintage British confectionery made by Frys, with Stephen Fry