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How could London possibly be independent from the rest of England when a huge % of London workers don't live there and a huge % of those who live there weren't born there? Who'd get a vote?MarkHopkins said:TheScreamingEagles said:
Good Lord!Casino_Royale said:
London has no right to independence.Pulpstar said:
Yes, but those will flow anyway until someone gets serious about a London independence party. For now it is basically a hostage capital.TheScreamingEagles said:
They need London's tax revenues though.Pulpstar said:The interesting dynamic now is that the Tories don't need the support of London, politically speaking.
They can basically get a majority from provincial England and Wales............
It is the ancient capital of England (and the UK) and belongs to the country, and neither can survive without each other.
Colchester and Winchester say hello.
Say at the 2020 general election a majority of London MPs are from a London Independence Party, will you say they have no right to independence then?
Britain leaving the EU is awkward, but doable.
Scotland leaving Britain is much harder, but possible.
London leaving England is fantasy land.0 -
Is he going to use this as a platform to undermine TM's brexit negotiations? I think he will use it to fight for soft Brexit.
He will quit as MP soon, we know he loves doing u-turns.0 -
Quite so.david_herdson said:
So is the idea of a London independence party.Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:
Mr Meeks, it was a joke.AlastairMeeks said:
It's astonishing how quickly the little Englanders resort to ideas that African dictators would blush to contemplate.Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:
Dam the Thames at Rainham and see how far the water rises before they capitulate.MarkHopkins said:TheScreamingEagles said:
Good Lord!Casino_Royale said:
London has no right to independence.Pulpstar said:
Yes, but those will flow anyway until someone gets serious about a London independence party. For now it is basically a hostage capital.TheScreamingEagles said:
They need London's tax revenues though.Pulpstar said:The interesting dynamic now is that the Tories don't need the support of London, politically speaking.
They can basically get a majority from provincial England and Wales............
It is the ancient capital of England (and the UK) and belongs to the country, and neither can survive without each other.
Colchester and Winchester say hello.
Say at the 2020 general election a majority of London MPs are from a London Independence Party, will you say they have no right to independence then?
Britain leaving the EU is awkward, but doable.
Scotland leaving Britain is much harder, but possible.
London leaving England is fantasy land.0 -
George Osborne's former Chief of Staff tweets
https://twitter.com/rbrharrison/status/8427250359158579200 -
Good afternoon, Mr. D, Mr. Urquhart.
I see the deranged wibbling of London independence has arisen. I feel that now would be a good time for me to mention that The Last Kingdom got off to a good start, not least because super blonde nuns pave the way to televisual delight.0 -
Professional Nat Eck is as happy as a pig at trough in Westminster and on the LBC, laughing up his sleeve at gullible mugs like you.malcolmg said:
its eeyore, get over it Monica , get a job , work hard and get your own pensions instead of fixating on others who have done it.MonikerDiCanio said:
Check out five-pensions Eck's extra-parliamentary earnings. At least the Tories get rid of their losers.malcolmg said:
arrogant idiot at that , both of them, totally wrong that these effete elite tos**** get handed top jobs purely on their silver spooned upbringingPatrick said:
Indeed. But talent needs to come tempered with good judgement. Ozzy got the national view and doing what is right badly wrong. So he had to go. Bit like that Bank of England lady. Super clever but an idiot.DavidL said:This is quite a substantive job. I don't think that there is any chance George would have taken it if he thought that there was any chance of him being offered a senior post by the government in the near future. Which is a pity. There is a dearth of talent in our politics generally, not just in the Labour Party, and it is too valuable to waste like this.
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Whenever the subject of London independence comes up, the riposte is usually (1) close the border (2) hold them to ransom over food (3) hold them to ransom over water (4) hold them to ransom over energy. But right round the world there are countries that are interdependent where such behaviour would be seen as completely beyond the pale. It shows a prickly defensiveness.Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:
Mr Meeks, it was a joke.AlastairMeeks said:
It's astonishing how quickly the little Englanders resort to ideas that African dictators would blush to contemplate.Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:
Dam the Thames at Rainham and see how far the water rises before they capitulate.MarkHopkins said:TheScreamingEagles said:
Good Lord!Casino_Royale said:
London has no right to independence.Pulpstar said:
Yes, but those will flow anyway until someone gets serious about a London independence party. For now it is basically a hostage capital.TheScreamingEagles said:
They need London's tax revenues though.Pulpstar said:The interesting dynamic now is that the Tories don't need the support of London, politically speaking.
They can basically get a majority from provincial England and Wales............
It is the ancient capital of England (and the UK) and belongs to the country, and neither can survive without each other.
Colchester and Winchester say hello.
Say at the 2020 general election a majority of London MPs are from a London Independence Party, will you say they have no right to independence then?
Britain leaving the EU is awkward, but doable.
Scotland leaving Britain is much harder, but possible.
London leaving England is fantasy land.
I can well understand why the idea of an independent London irks many. Resorting to threats, however jokey, to rebut the idea isn't likely to make it go away.
To go back to a point I made a couple of weeks ago (and I'm still wondering about whether to do a thread header on the subject): if Britain is to prosper in the future, the effete metropolitans and the country bumpkins are going to need to look to see if they can find common ground and common values, work out what unites them instead of what divides them.
But what if there isn't enough to justify hanging together? What then?0 -
Waging war on France. That should unite us all.AlastairMeeks said:
Whenever the subject of London independence comes up, the riposte is usually (1) close the border (2) hold them to ransom over food (3) hold them to ransom over water (4) hold them to ransom over energy. But right round the world there are countries that are interdependent where such behaviour would be seen as completely beyond the pale. It shows a prickly defensiveness.Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:
Mr Meeks, it was a joke.AlastairMeeks said:
It's astonishing how quickly the little Englanders resort to ideas that African dictators would blush to contemplate.Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:
Dam the Thames at Rainham and see how far the water rises before they capitulate.MarkHopkins said:TheScreamingEagles said:
Good Lord!Casino_Royale said:
London has no right to independence.Pulpstar said:
Yes, but those will flow anyway until someone gets serious about a London independence party. For now it is basically a hostage capital.TheScreamingEagles said:
They need London's tax revenues though.Pulpstar said:The interesting dynamic now is that the Tories don't need the support of London, politically speaking.
They can basically get a majority from provincial England and Wales............
It is the ancient capital of England (and the UK) and belongs to the country, and neither can survive without each other.
Colchester and Winchester say hello.
Say at the 2020 general election a majority of London MPs are from a London Independence Party, will you say they have no right to independence then?
Britain leaving the EU is awkward, but doable.
Scotland leaving Britain is much harder, but possible.
London leaving England is fantasy land.
I can well understand why the idea of an independent London irks many. Resorting to threats, however jokey, to rebut the idea isn't likely to make it go away.
To go back to a point I made a couple of weeks ago (and I'm still wondering about whether to do a thread header on the subject): if Britain is to prosper in the future, the effete metropolitans and the country bumpkins are going to need to look to see if they can find common ground and common values, work out what unites them instead of what divides them.
But what if there isn't enough to justify hanging together? What then?0 -
Many of us London workers don't even live in England !isam said:
How could London possibly be independent from the rest of England when a huge % of London workers don't live there and a huge % of those who live there weren't born there? Who'd get a vote?MarkHopkins said:TheScreamingEagles said:
Good Lord!Casino_Royale said:
London has no right to independence.Pulpstar said:
Yes, but those will flow anyway until someone gets serious about a London independence party. For now it is basically a hostage capital.TheScreamingEagles said:
They need London's tax revenues though.Pulpstar said:The interesting dynamic now is that the Tories don't need the support of London, politically speaking.
They can basically get a majority from provincial England and Wales............
It is the ancient capital of England (and the UK) and belongs to the country, and neither can survive without each other.
Colchester and Winchester say hello.
Say at the 2020 general election a majority of London MPs are from a London Independence Party, will you say they have no right to independence then?
Britain leaving the EU is awkward, but doable.
Scotland leaving Britain is much harder, but possible.
London leaving England is fantasy land.0 -
Then one side will impose itself on the other, in some form.AlastairMeeks said:
Whenever the subject of London independence comes up, the riposte is usually (1) close the border (2) hold them to ransom over food (3) hold them to ransom over water (4) hold them to ransom over energy. But right round the world there are countries that are interdependent where such behaviour would be seen as completely beyond the pale. It shows a prickly defensiveness.Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:
Mr Meeks, it was a joke.AlastairMeeks said:
It's astonishing how quickly the little Englanders resort to ideas that African dictators would blush to contemplate.Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:
Dam the Thames at Rainham and see how far the water rises before they capitulate.MarkHopkins said:TheScreamingEagles said:
Good Lord!Casino_Royale said:
London has no right to independence.Pulpstar said:
Yes, but those will flow anyway until someone gets serious about a London independence party. For now it is basically a hostage capital.TheScreamingEagles said:
They need London's tax revenues though.Pulpstar said:The interesting dynamic now is that the Tories don't need the support of London, politically speaking.
They can basically get a majority from provincial England and Wales............
It is the ancient capital of England (and the UK) and belongs to the country, and neither can survive without each other.
Colchester and Winchester say hello.
Say at the 2020 general election a majority of London MPs are from a London Independence Party, will you say they have no right to independence then?
Britain leaving the EU is awkward, but doable.
Scotland leaving Britain is much harder, but possible.
London leaving England is fantasy land.
I can well understand why the idea of an independent London irks many. Resorting to threats, however jokey, to rebut the idea isn't likely to make it go away.
To go back to a point I made a couple of weeks ago (and I'm still wondering about whether to do a thread header on the subject): if Britain is to prosper in the future, the effete metropolitans and the country bumpkins are going to need to look to see if they can find common ground and common values, work out what unites them instead of what divides them.
But what if there isn't enough to justify hanging together? What then?
And you have to remember that as with all civil wars - whether physical or cultural - there is no clean division. They divide within towns, villages and families as well as between them.0 -
Has Corbyn announced his resignation?TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Lol "Death Duty" is the 13-8 favourite in this one.0
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Not until after July though please.TheScreamingEagles said:
Waging war on France. That should unite us all.AlastairMeeks said:
Whenever the subject of London independence comes up, the riposte is usually (1) close the border (2) hold them to ransom over food (3) hold them to ransom over water (4) hold them to ransom over energy. But right round the world there are countries that are interdependent where such behaviour would be seen as completely beyond the pale. It shows a prickly defensiveness.Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:
Mr Meeks, it was a joke.AlastairMeeks said:
It's astonishing how quickly the little Englanders resort to ideas that African dictators would blush to contemplate.Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:
Dam the Thames at Rainham and see how far the water rises before they capitulate.MarkHopkins said:TheScreamingEagles said:
Good Lord!Casino_Royale said:
London has no right to independence.Pulpstar said:
Yes, but those will flow anyway until someone gets serious about a London independence party. For now it is basically a hostage capital.TheScreamingEagles said:
They need London's tax revenues though.Pulpstar said:The interesting dynamic now is that the Tories don't need the support of London, politically speaking.
They can basically get a majority from provincial England and Wales............
It is the ancient capital of England (and the UK) and belongs to the country, and neither can survive without each other.
Colchester and Winchester say hello.
Say at the 2020 general election a majority of London MPs are from a London Independence Party, will you say they have no right to independence then?
Britain leaving the EU is awkward, but doable.
Scotland leaving Britain is much harder, but possible.
London leaving England is fantasy land.
I can well understand why the idea of an independent London irks many. Resorting to threats, however jokey, to rebut the idea isn't likely to make it go away.
To go back to a point I made a couple of weeks ago (and I'm still wondering about whether to do a thread header on the subject): if Britain is to prosper in the future, the effete metropolitans and the country bumpkins are going to need to look to see if they can find common ground and common values, work out what unites them instead of what divides them.
But what if there isn't enough to justify hanging together? What then?
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The divide is a false one, of course. Those that live in the country aren't bumpkins, and neither are those living in the capital all effete. It's only those who don't visit or live or work in either (I do both: work in London, live in the country and visit all over the UK - usually rural mini-breaks) that think in such terms.AlastairMeeks said:Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:
Whenever the subject of London independence comes up, the riposte is usually (1) close the border (2) hold them to ransom over food (3) hold them to ransom over water (4) hold them to ransom over energy. But right round the world there are countries that are interdependent where such behaviour would be seen as completely beyond the pale. It shows a prickly defensiveness.AlastairMeeks said:
Mr Meeks, it was a joke.Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:
It's .MarkHopkins said:
DamTheScreamingEagles said:Casino_Royale said:
Good Lord!Pulpstar said:
Yes, blockquote>TheScreamingEagles said:
They need London's tax revenues though.Pulpstar said:The interesting dynamic now is that the Tories don't need the support of London, politically speaking.
They can basically get a majority from provincial England and Wales............
London .
Colchester and Winchester say hello.
Say at the 2020 general election a majority of London MPs are from a London Independence Party, will you say they have no right to independence then?
Britain
I can well understand why the idea of an independent London irks many. Resorting to threats, however jokey, to rebut the idea isn't likely to make it go away.
To go back to a point I made a couple of weeks ago (and I'm still wondering about whether to do a thread header on the subject): if Britain is to prosper in the future, the effete metropolitans and the country bumpkins are going to need to look to see if they can find common ground and common values, work out what unites them instead of what divides them.
But what if there isn't enough to justify hanging together? What then?
There is plenty that unites us.
My point stands though: London doesn't just belong to the transient Londoners who currently happen to live in London, it belongs to the whole country, and is serviced by it and which services it in turn, so I do not believe it has any right to independence.
It *does* have a right to be involved in the national conversation, respected and, the EU referendum result aside (perhaps) it is.0 -
FTFYTheScreamingEagles said:Waging war on France Scotland. That should unite us all.
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Not Scotland. Remember the auld alliance.TheScreamingEagles said:Waging war on France. That should unite us all.
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Will they have a whip round?TheScreamingEagles said:
Cash in hand.calum said:I wonder how GO will be paid?
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I thin it's pretty clear where you stand on the question so jog on.AlastairMeeks said:
Whenever the subject of London independence comes up, the riposte is usually (1) close the border (2) hold them to ransom over food (3) hold them to ransom over water (4) hold them to ransom over energy. But right round the world there are countries that are interdependent where such behaviour would be seen as completely beyond the pale. It shows a prickly defensiveness.Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:
Mr Meeks, it was a joke.AlastairMeeks said:
It's astonishing how quickly the little Englanders resort to ideas that African dictators would blush to contemplate.Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:
Dam the Thames at Rainham and see how far the water rises before they capitulate.MarkHopkins said:TheScreamingEagles said:
Good Lord!Casino_Royale said:
London has no right to independence.Pulpstar said:
Yes, but those will flow anyway until someone gets serious about a London independence party. For now it is basically a hostage capital.TheScreamingEagles said:
They need London's tax revenues though.Pulpstar said:The interesting dynamic now is that the Tories don't need the support of London, politically speaking.
They can basically get a majority from provincial England and Wales............
It is the ancient capital of England (and the UK) and belongs to the country, and neither can survive without each other.
Colchester and Winchester say hello.
Say at the 2020 general election a majority of London MPs are from a London Independence Party, will you say they have no right to independence then?
Britain leaving the EU is awkward, but doable.
Scotland leaving Britain is much harder, but possible.
London leaving England is fantasy land.
I can well understand why the idea of an independent London irks many. Resorting to threats, however jokey, to rebut the idea isn't likely to make it go away.
To go back to a point I made a couple of weeks ago (and I'm still wondering about whether to do a thread header on the subject): if Britain is to prosper in the future, the effete metropolitans and the country bumpkins are going to need to look to see if they can find common ground and common values, work out what unites them instead of what divides them.
But what if there isn't enough to justify hanging together? What then?0 -
Your assertion that "There is plenty that unites us" is one that is trotted out a lot by those on both sides. Yet it is never backed up with any concrete examples.Casino_Royale said:
The divide is a false one, of course. Those that live in the country aren't bumpkins, and neither are those living in the capital all effete. It's only those who don't visit or live or work in either (I do both: work in London, live in the country and visit all over the UK - usually rural mini-breaks) that think in such terms.
There is plenty that unites us.
My point stands though: London doesn't just belong to the transient Londoners who currently happen to live in London, it belongs to the whole country, and is serviced by it and which services it in turn, so I do not believe it has any right to independence.
It *does* have a right to be involved in the national conversation, respected and, the EU referendum result aside (perhaps) it is.0 -
I'm sure George will have all his ducks in a rowe.Theuniondivvie said:
Will they have a whip round?TheScreamingEagles said:
Cash in hand.calum said:I wonder how GO will be paid?
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Whenever the subject of London independence comes up, the riposte is usually (1) close the border (2) hold them to ransom over food (3) hold them to ransom over water (4) hold them to ransom over energy. But right round the world there are countries that are interdependent where such behaviour would be seen as completely beyond the pale. It shows a prickly defensiveness.
I can well understand why the idea of an independent London irks many. Resorting to threats, however jokey, to rebut the idea isn't likely to make it go away.
To go back to a point I made a couple of weeks ago (and I'm still wondering about whether to do a thread header on the subject): if Britain is to prosper in the future, the effete metropolitans and the country bumpkins are going to need to look to see if they can find common ground and common values, work out what unites them instead of what divides them.
But what if there isn't enough to justify hanging together? What then?
Then one side will impose itself on the other, in some form.
And you have to remember that as with all civil wars - whether physical or cultural - there is no clean division. They divide within towns, villages and families as well as between them.
Whoa, there. Civil war? Defensive prickliness? This is little more than blokeish banter.
As for the divide between effete metrosexuals and country bumpkins - there are damned few of the latter on here. As ever, the effect of the Internet is to magnify the narcissism of small differences. There's probably a small difference between those who choose to live in the city proper vs suburbia (which, to all intents and purposes, covers the vast majority of the population, now); as much as anything, though, what we tend to see here is a contest of caricatures. I rather suspect Alistair is significantly more charming than his de haut en bas internet persona; those of us who react to his more provocative posts are also adopting our own cliches when we do so.0 -
If London did gain independence, with the way people vote Jezza would be the London PM.AlastairMeeks said:
Your assertion that "There is plenty that unites us" is one that is trotted out a lot by those on both sides. Yet it is never backed up with any concrete examples.Casino_Royale said:
The divide is a false one, of course. Those that live in the country aren't bumpkins, and neither are those living in the capital all effete. It's only those who don't visit or live or work in either (I do both: work in London, live in the country and visit all over the UK - usually rural mini-breaks) that think in such terms.
There is plenty that unites us.
My point stands though: London doesn't just belong to the transient Londoners who currently happen to live in London, it belongs to the whole country, and is serviced by it and which services it in turn, so I do not believe it has any right to independence.
It *does* have a right to be involved in the national conversation, respected and, the EU referendum result aside (perhaps) it is.
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Then again... the Gordon Highlanders and the Scots Greys?RochdalePioneers said:
Not Scotland. Remember the auld alliance.TheScreamingEagles said:Waging war on France. That should unite us all.
"'Go at them the Greys! Scotland for ever!"0 -
You're a country bumpkin posing as a city slicker. You represent both sides, united in one being.AlastairMeeks said:
Your assertion that "There is plenty that unites us" is one that is trotted out a lot by those on both sides. Yet it is never backed up with any concrete examples.Casino_Royale said:
The divide is a false one, of course. Those that live in the country aren't bumpkins, and neither are those living in the capital all effete. It's only those who don't visit or live or work in either (I do both: work in London, live in the country and visit all over the UK - usually rural mini-breaks) that think in such terms.
There is plenty that unites us.
My point stands though: London doesn't just belong to the transient Londoners who currently happen to live in London, it belongs to the whole country, and is serviced by it and which services it in turn, so I do not believe it has any right to independence.
It *does* have a right to be involved in the national conversation, respected and, the EU referendum result aside (perhaps) it is.0 -
Isabel Oakeshott @IsabelOakeshott 31m31 minutes ago
At this point it genuinely wouldn't surprise me if @George_Osborne hired David Cameron as his deputy.
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I'm not a Labour party member, but I think London Labour pro european MP Wes Streeting speaks for all right thinking and fair minded people here:
https://twitter.com/wesstreeting/status/8427138441160212480 -
You naughty boy.Theuniondivvie said:
Will they have a whip round?TheScreamingEagles said:
Cash in hand.calum said:I wonder how GO will be paid?
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The LibDem twitter account is run by someone with a pretty good sense of humour.isam said:0 -
They really didn't like this joke thoughrcs1000 said:
The LibDem twitter account is run by someone with a pretty good sense of humour.isam said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5hQvxtA9Dg0 -
I expect that Barnet, Hillingdon, Havering, Bromley, Richmond, Kingston, Sutton, Bexley, Wandsworth, Kensington, and Westminster would want to secede back into England.Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:
If London did gain independence, with the way people vote Jezza would be the London PM.AlastairMeeks said:
Your assertion that "There is plenty that unites us" is one that is trotted out a lot by those on both sides. Yet it is never backed up with any concrete examples.Casino_Royale said:
The divide is a false one, of course. Those that live in the country aren't bumpkins, and neither are those living in the capital all effete. It's only those who don't visit or live or work in either (I do both: work in London, live in the country and visit all over the UK - usually rural mini-breaks) that think in such terms.
There is plenty that unites us.
My point stands though: London doesn't just belong to the transient Londoners who currently happen to live in London, it belongs to the whole country, and is serviced by it and which services it in turn, so I do not believe it has any right to independence.
It *does* have a right to be involved in the national conversation, respected and, the EU referendum result aside (perhaps) it is.0 -
Mr. Pulpstar, I agree (with both you and Wes Streeting).0
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And the north part of Enfield too.Sean_F said:
I expect that Barnet, Hillingdon, Havering, Bromley, Richmond, Kingston, Sutton, Bexley, Wandsworth, Kensington, and Westminster would want to secede back into England.Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:
If London did gain independence, with the way people vote Jezza would be the London PM.AlastairMeeks said:
Your assertion that "There is plenty that unites us" is one that is trotted out a lot by those on both sides. Yet it is never backed up with any concrete examples.Casino_Royale said:
The divide is a false one, of course. Those that live in the country aren't bumpkins, and neither are those living in the capital all effete. It's only those who don't visit or live or work in either (I do both: work in London, live in the country and visit all over the UK - usually rural mini-breaks) that think in such terms.
There is plenty that unites us.
My point stands though: London doesn't just belong to the transient Londoners who currently happen to live in London, it belongs to the whole country, and is serviced by it and which services it in turn, so I do not believe it has any right to independence.
It *does* have a right to be involved in the national conversation, respected and, the EU referendum result aside (perhaps) it is.
They can keep Ponders End and Edmonton though.
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So we can pretty much just keep south of the river.Sean_F said:
I expect that Barnet, Hillingdon, Havering, Bromley, Richmond, Kingston, Sutton, Bexley, Wandsworth, Kensington, and Westminster would want to secede back into England.Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:
If London did gain independence, with the way people vote Jezza would be the London PM.AlastairMeeks said:
Your assertion that "There is plenty that unites us" is one that is trotted out a lot by those on both sides. Yet it is never backed up with any concrete examples.Casino_Royale said:
The divide is a false one, of course. Those that live in the country aren't bumpkins, and neither are those living in the capital all effete. It's only those who don't visit or live or work in either (I do both: work in London, live in the country and visit all over the UK - usually rural mini-breaks) that think in such terms.
There is plenty that unites us.
My point stands though: London doesn't just belong to the transient Londoners who currently happen to live in London, it belongs to the whole country, and is serviced by it and which services it in turn, so I do not believe it has any right to independence.
It *does* have a right to be involved in the national conversation, respected and, the EU referendum result aside (perhaps) it is.0 -
Don't forget you get Tower Hamlets.Slackbladder said:
So we can pretty much just keep south of the river.Sean_F said:
I expect that Barnet, Hillingdon, Havering, Bromley, Richmond, Kingston, Sutton, Bexley, Wandsworth, Kensington, and Westminster would want to secede back into England.Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:
If London did gain independence, with the way people vote Jezza would be the London PM.AlastairMeeks said:
Your assertion that "There is plenty that unites us" is one that is trotted out a lot by those on both sides. Yet it is never backed up with any concrete examples.Casino_Royale said:
The divide is a false one, of course. Those that live in the country aren't bumpkins, and neither are those living in the capital all effete. It's only those who don't visit or live or work in either (I do both: work in London, live in the country and visit all over the UK - usually rural mini-breaks) that think in such terms.
There is plenty that unites us.
My point stands though: London doesn't just belong to the transient Londoners who currently happen to live in London, it belongs to the whole country, and is serviced by it and which services it in turn, so I do not believe it has any right to independence.
It *does* have a right to be involved in the national conversation, respected and, the EU referendum result aside (perhaps) it is.
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London definitely seems more popular with people that aren't from London.Sean_F said:
I expect that Barnet, Hillingdon, Havering, Bromley, Richmond, Kingston, Sutton, Bexley, Wandsworth, Kensington, and Westminster would want to secede back into England.Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:
If London did gain independence, with the way people vote Jezza would be the London PM.AlastairMeeks said:
Your assertion that "There is plenty that unites us" is one that is trotted out a lot by those on both sides. Yet it is never backed up with any concrete examples.Casino_Royale said:
The divide is a false one, of course. Those that live in the country aren't bumpkins, and neither are those living in the capital all effete. It's only those who don't visit or live or work in either (I do both: work in London, live in the country and visit all over the UK - usually rural mini-breaks) that think in such terms.
There is plenty that unites us.
My point stands though: London doesn't just belong to the transient Londoners who currently happen to live in London, it belongs to the whole country, and is serviced by it and which services it in turn, so I do not believe it has any right to independence.
It *does* have a right to be involved in the national conversation, respected and, the EU referendum result aside (perhaps) it is.0 -
Swop the City and Kensington etc for it?Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:
Don't forget you get Tower Hamlets.Slackbladder said:
So we can pretty much just keep south of the river.Sean_F said:
I expect that Barnet, Hillingdon, Havering, Bromley, Richmond, Kingston, Sutton, Bexley, Wandsworth, Kensington, and Westminster would want to secede back into England.Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:
If London did gain independence, with the way people vote Jezza would be the London PM.AlastairMeeks said:
Your assertion that "There is plenty that unites us" is one that is trotted out a lot by those on both sides. Yet it is never backed up with any concrete examples.Casino_Royale said:
The divide is a false one, of course. Those that live in the country aren't bumpkins, and neither are those living in the capital all effete. It's only those who don't visit or live or work in either (I do both: work in London, live in the country and visit all over the UK - usually rural mini-breaks) that think in such terms.
There is plenty that unites us.
My point stands though: London doesn't just belong to the transient Londoners who currently happen to live in London, it belongs to the whole country, and is serviced by it and which services it in turn, so I do not believe it has any right to independence.
It *does* have a right to be involved in the national conversation, respected and, the EU referendum result aside (perhaps) it is.0 -
And Newham!Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:
Don't forget you get Tower Hamlets.Slackbladder said:
So we can pretty much just keep south of the river.Sean_F said:
I expect that Barnet, Hillingdon, Havering, Bromley, Richmond, Kingston, Sutton, Bexley, Wandsworth, Kensington, and Westminster would want to secede back into England.Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:
If London did gain independence, with the way people vote Jezza would be the London PM.AlastairMeeks said:
Your assertion that "There is plenty that unites us" is one that is trotted out a lot by those on both sides. Yet it is never backed up with any concrete examples.Casino_Royale said:
The divide is a false one, of course. Those that live in the country aren't bumpkins, and neither are those living in the capital all effete. It's only those who don't visit or live or work in either (I do both: work in London, live in the country and visit all over the UK - usually rural mini-breaks) that think in such terms.
There is plenty that unites us.
My point stands though: London doesn't just belong to the transient Londoners who currently happen to live in London, it belongs to the whole country, and is serviced by it and which services it in turn, so I do not believe it has any right to independence.
It *does* have a right to be involved in the national conversation, respected and, the EU referendum result aside (perhaps) it is.0 -
An advisory referendum?Slackbladder said:
Swop the City and Kensington etc for it?Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:
Don't forget you get Tower Hamlets.Slackbladder said:
So we can pretty much just keep south of the river.Sean_F said:
I expect that Barnet, Hillingdon, Havering, Bromley, Richmond, Kingston, Sutton, Bexley, Wandsworth, Kensington, and Westminster would want to secede back into England.Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:
If London did gain independence, with the way people vote Jezza would be the London PM.AlastairMeeks said:
Your assertion that "There is plenty that unites us" is one that is trotted out a lot by those on both sides. Yet it is never backed up with any concrete examples.Casino_Royale said:
The divide is a false one, of course. Those that live in the country aren't bumpkins, and neither are those living in the capital all effete. It's only those who don't visit or live or work in either (I do both: work in London, live in the country and visit all over the UK - usually rural mini-breaks) that think in such terms.
There is plenty that unites us.
My point stands though: London doesn't just belong to the transient Londoners who currently happen to live in London, it belongs to the whole country, and is serviced by it and which services it in turn, so I do not believe it has any right to independence.
It *does* have a right to be involved in the national conversation, respected and, the EU referendum result aside (perhaps) it is.
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The BBC Asian network today had a phone in on what the appropriate punishment for blasphemy should be.
https://mobile.twitter.com/bbcasiannetwork/status/842672388223483904
That is far more important than all the tittle tattle about Osborne.0 -
Independent London gets the grotty bits.Slackbladder said:
So we can pretty much just keep south of the river.Sean_F said:
I expect that Barnet, Hillingdon, Havering, Bromley, Richmond, Kingston, Sutton, Bexley, Wandsworth, Kensington, and Westminster would want to secede back into England.Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:
If London did gain independence, with the way people vote Jezza would be the London PM.AlastairMeeks said:
Your assertion that "There is plenty that unites us" is one that is trotted out a lot by those on both sides. Yet it is never backed up with any concrete examples.Casino_Royale said:
The divide is a false one, of course. Those that live in the country aren't bumpkins, and neither are those living in the capital all effete. It's only those who don't visit or live or work in either (I do both: work in London, live in the country and visit all over the UK - usually rural mini-breaks) that think in such terms.
There is plenty that unites us.
My point stands though: London doesn't just belong to the transient Londoners who currently happen to live in London, it belongs to the whole country, and is serviced by it and which services it in turn, so I do not believe it has any right to independence.
It *does* have a right to be involved in the national conversation, respected and, the EU referendum result aside (perhaps) it is.0 -
Nothing it shouldn't be a crime.RoyalBlue said:The BBC Asian network today had a phone in on what the appropriate punishment for blasphemy should be.
https://mobile.twitter.com/bbcasiannetwork/status/842672388223483904
That is far more important than all the tittle tattle about Osborne.
Next story?0 -
Wouldn't that produce about ten customs checks on the District Line?Sean_F said:
I expect that Barnet, Hillingdon, Havering, Bromley, Richmond, Kingston, Sutton, Bexley, Wandsworth, Kensington, and Westminster would want to secede back into England.Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:
If London did gain independence, with the way people vote Jezza would be the London PM.AlastairMeeks said:
Your assertion that "There is plenty that unites us" is one that is trotted out a lot by those on both sides. Yet it is never backed up with any concrete examples.Casino_Royale said:
The divide is a false one, of course. Those that live in the country aren't bumpkins, and neither are those living in the capital all effete. It's only those who don't visit or live or work in either (I do both: work in London, live in the country and visit all over the UK - usually rural mini-breaks) that think in such terms.
There is plenty that unites us.
My point stands though: London doesn't just belong to the transient Londoners who currently happen to live in London, it belongs to the whole country, and is serviced by it and which services it in turn, so I do not believe it has any right to independence.
It *does* have a right to be involved in the national conversation, respected and, the EU referendum result aside (perhaps) it is.0 -
Mr. Blue, saw that earlier. Whilst there was the odd nutcase, the vast majority seemed united in having their collective gast flabbered the question was even being asked, particularly in a way that implied it was a given that blasphemy warranted punishment.0
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The liberals presumably argued for imprisonment; the hardliners for stoning.RoyalBlue said:The BBC Asian network today had a phone in on what the appropriate punishment for blasphemy should be.
https://mobile.twitter.com/bbcasiannetwork/status/842672388223483904
That is far more important than all the tittle tattle about Osborne.0 -
That's profoundly true. It should be immortalized as Isam's Rule.isam said:
London definitely seems more popular with people that aren't from London.Sean_F said:
I expect that Barnet, Hillingdon, Havering, Bromley, Richmond, Kingston, Sutton, Bexley, Wandsworth, Kensington, and Westminster would want to secede back into England.Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:
If London did gain independence, with the way people vote Jezza would be the London PM.AlastairMeeks said:
Your assertion that "There is plenty that unites us" is one that is trotted out a lot by those on both sides. Yet it is never backed up with any concrete examples.Casino_Royale said:
The divide is a false one, of course. Those that live in the country aren't bumpkins, and neither are those living in the capital all effete. It's only those who don't visit or live or work in either (I do both: work in London, live in the country and visit all over the UK - usually rural mini-breaks) that think in such terms.
There is plenty that unites us.
My point stands though: London doesn't just belong to the transient Londoners who currently happen to live in London, it belongs to the whole country, and is serviced by it and which services it in turn, so I do not believe it has any right to independence.
It *does* have a right to be involved in the national conversation, respected and, the EU referendum result aside (perhaps) it is.0 -
I'm quite interested in the logic, since, for example, Kensington and Westminster voted over 2:1 for Remain. I think Sean has just chosen places that he feels should belong to little England without any reference to underlying facts.david_herdson said:
Wouldn't that produce about ten customs checks on the District Line?Sean_F said:
I expect that Barnet, Hillingdon, Havering, Bromley, Richmond, Kingston, Sutton, Bexley, Wandsworth, Kensington, and Westminster would want to secede back into England.Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:
If London did gain independence, with the way people vote Jezza would be the London PM.AlastairMeeks said:
Your assertion that "There is plenty that unites us" is one that is trotted out a lot by those on both sides. Yet it is never backed up with any concrete examples.Casino_Royale said:
The divide is a false one, of course. Those that live in the country aren't bumpkins, and neither are those living in the capital all effete. It's only those who don't visit or live or work in either (I do both: work in London, live in the country and visit all over the UK - usually rural mini-breaks) that think in such terms.
There is plenty that unites us.
My point stands though: London doesn't just belong to the transient Londoners who currently happen to live in London, it belongs to the whole country, and is serviced by it and which services it in turn, so I do not believe it has any right to independence.
It *does* have a right to be involved in the national conversation, respected and, the EU referendum result aside (perhaps) it is.0 -
like SNP views on their opponentsSean_F said:
The liberals presumably argued for imprisonment; the hardliners for stoning.RoyalBlue said:The BBC Asian network today had a phone in on what the appropriate punishment for blasphemy should be.
https://mobile.twitter.com/bbcasiannetwork/status/842672388223483904
That is far more important than all the tittle tattle about Osborne.0 -
I chose the places that voted Conservative, and would be most unlikely to be happy with someone like Jeremy Corbyn in charge.AlastairMeeks said:
I'm quite interested in the logic, since, for example, Kensington and Westminster voted over 2:1 for Remain. I think Sean has just chosen places that he feels should belong to little England without any reference to underlying facts.david_herdson said:
Wouldn't that produce about ten customs checks on the District Line?Sean_F said:
I expect that Barnet, Hillingdon, Havering, Bromley, Richmond, Kingston, Sutton, Bexley, Wandsworth, Kensington, and Westminster would want to secede back into England.Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:
If London did gain independence, with the way people vote Jezza would be the London PM.AlastairMeeks said:
Your assertion that "There is plenty that unites us" is one that is trotted out a lot by those on both sides. Yet it is never backed up with any concrete examples.Casino_Royale said:
The divide is a false one, of course. Those that live in the country aren't bumpkins, and neither are those living in the capital all effete. It's only those who don't visit or live or work in either (I do both: work in London, live in the country and visit all over the UK - usually rural mini-breaks) that think in such terms.
There is plenty that unites us.
My point stands though: London doesn't just belong to the transient Londoners who currently happen to live in London, it belongs to the whole country, and is serviced by it and which services it in turn, so I do not believe it has any right to independence.
It *does* have a right to be involved in the national conversation, respected and, the EU referendum result aside (perhaps) it is.0 -
Heh. I think the idea that the Remain vote is a proxy for a vote for secession is, at the very least, questionable.AlastairMeeks said:
I'm quite interested in the logic, since, for example, Kensington and Westminster voted over 2:1 for Remain. I think Sean has just chosen places that he feels should belong to little England without any reference to underlying facts.david_herdson said:
Wouldn't that produce about ten customs checks on the District Line?Sean_F said:
I expect that Barnet, Hillingdon, Havering, Bromley, Richmond, Kingston, Sutton, Bexley, Wandsworth, Kensington, and Westminster would want to secede back into England.Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:
If London did gain independence, with the way people vote Jezza would be the London PM.AlastairMeeks said:
Your assertion that "There is plenty that unites us" is one that is trotted out a lot by those on both sides. Yet it is never backed up with any concrete examples.Casino_Royale said:
The divide is a false one, of course. Those that live in the country aren't bumpkins, and neither are those living in the capital all effete. It's only those who don't visit or live or work in either (I do both: work in London, live in the country and visit all over the UK - usually rural mini-breaks) that think in such terms.
There is plenty that unites us.
My point stands though: London doesn't just belong to the transient Londoners who currently happen to live in London, it belongs to the whole country, and is serviced by it and which services it in turn, so I do not believe it has any right to independence.
It *does* have a right to be involved in the national conversation, respected and, the EU referendum result aside (perhaps) it is.0 -
Brain the size of a planet and they make him sit on the back benches. Best all round imho, if G.O. goes sooner rather than later.0
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It is the fact that a public broadcaster thinks that such a question is even worth raising which is so disturbing. How many license fee payers would be happy about it?Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Blue, saw that earlier. Whilst there was the odd nutcase, the vast majority seemed united in having their collective gast flabbered the question was even being asked, particularly in a way that implied it was a given that blasphemy warranted punishment.
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It's been a long time since the era of Whitehouse prosecuting blasphemy. It's not even illegal anymore since 2008, a rare positive free speech reform from Labour.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Blue, saw that earlier. Whilst there was the odd nutcase, the vast majority seemed united in having their collective gast flabbered the question was even being asked, particularly in a way that implied it was a given that blasphemy warranted punishment.
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Excellent Gold Cup - I thought Djakadam had it with a mile to go, Native River super plucky staying on but both done nicely by Sizing John with Minella Rocco swooping in just too late.
A classic, for all the low expectations.0 -
Mr. Blue, most of them won't notice. As Cameron once said, Twitter isn't Britain, and I doubt Asian Network is one of the more watched (listened to?) channels.
I agree it's disturbing.
Edited extra bit: maybe not de jure, Mr. Thompson. How many papers and broadcasters reproduced the Hebdo covers after the murders?0 -
So what tag shall we use for this GO-ES story?
#gogate
#editorgate
#3jobgate
Actually, scratch that last one, the way things are going it might be out of date soon.
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the curious death of the Evening StandardMarkHopkins said:
So what tag shall we use for this GO-ES story?
#gogate
#editorgate
#3jobgate
Actually, scratch that last one, the way things are going it might be out of date soon.0 -
Incidentally, I think the suggestion that the Standard under Osborne's no-doubt charismatic leadership will be hostile to Sadiq Khan is likely to prove very far from the mark. I'd expect rather the reverse, in fact.0
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hurting much?Alanbrooke said:
the curious death of the Evening StandardMarkHopkins said:
So what tag shall we use for this GO-ES story?
#gogate
#editorgate
#3jobgate
Actually, scratch that last one, the way things are going it might be out of date soon.0 -
Indeed, double it. According to Sky News he's now "six jobs Osborne" which rather trumps "two jags Prescott".MarkHopkins said:
So what tag shall we use for this GO-ES story?
#gogate
#editorgate
#3jobgate
Actually, scratch that last one, the way things are going it might be out of date soon.
And they're running with the conflict of interest angle too:
"For Mr. Osborne's critics, the question will arise of how, with so many other hats, it will be possible for him to discharge his duties effectively as an MP, not only in terms of time but also in terms of voting without prejudice. For example, how will he now vote on press regulation? And if a vote takes place on transport funding, for whom does the ex-Chancellor speak? His northern Cheshire constituents or Londoners for whom he promised today to "be their voice"?"
http://news.sky.com/story/george-osbornes-evening-standard-role-raises-potential-conflicts-of-interest-10805063
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But, but... what about the huuuuge differences between the two major parties at GE2015?!Richard_Nabavi said:Incidentally, I think the suggestion that the Standard under Osborne's no-doubt charismatic leadership will be hostile to Sadiq Khan is likely to prove very far from the mark. I'd expect rather the reverse, in fact.
Your Oval Office announcements about the devastation a labour govt would have caused to our portfolios?! ☺0 -
There are about 50 devoted Asian channels on Sky, something for everyoneMorris_Dancer said:Mr. Blue, most of them won't notice. As Cameron once said, Twitter isn't Britain, and I doubt Asian Network is one of the more watched (listened to?) channels.
I agree it's disturbing.
Edited extra bit: maybe not de jure, Mr. Thompson. How many papers and broadcasters reproduced the Hebdo covers after the murders?0 -
not in the least, I find it all hugely amusingTOPPING said:
hurting much?Alanbrooke said:
the curious death of the Evening StandardMarkHopkins said:
So what tag shall we use for this GO-ES story?
#gogate
#editorgate
#3jobgate
Actually, scratch that last one, the way things are going it might be out of date soon.
the upside must be GO is on his way out since his multijobbing is ultimately untenable
a good day for the UK0 -
Leave/Remain is a relatively trivial division as these things go.AlastairMeeks said:
I'm quite interested in the logic, since, for example, Kensington and Westminster voted over 2:1 for Remain. I think Sean has just chosen places that he feels should belong to little England without any reference to underlying facts.david_herdson said:
Wouldn't that produce about ten customs checks on the District Line?Sean_F said:
I expect that Barnet, Hillingdon, Havering, Bromley, Richmond, Kingston, Sutton, Bexley, Wandsworth, Kensington, and Westminster would want to secede back into England.Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:
If London did gain independence, with the way people vote Jezza would be the London PM.AlastairMeeks said:
Your assertion that "There is plenty that unites us" is one that is trotted out a lot by those on both sides. Yet it is never backed up with any concrete examples.Casino_Royale said:
The divide is a false one, of course. Those that live in the country aren't bumpkins, and neither are those living in the capital all effete. It's only those who don't visit or live or work in either (I do both: work in London, live in the country and visit all over the UK - usually rural mini-breaks) that think in such terms.
There is plenty that unites us.
My point stands though: London doesn't just belong to the transient Londoners who currently happen to live in London, it belongs to the whole country, and is serviced by it and which services it in turn, so I do not believe it has any right to independence.
It *does* have a right to be involved in the national conversation, respected and, the EU referendum result aside (perhaps) it is.
Amused at the pejorative use of the phrase Little England by a London independencer.0 -
I am interested to know what the rank & file Cons MPs think of the appointment.0
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It wasn't frightening when it was giving him stonking great majorities, was it?FrancisUrquhart said:Tony Blair launches pushback against 'frightening populism'
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/17/tony-blair-launches-pushback-against-frightening-populism
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OK, but in polls by Opinionway Le Pen's figures are currently at her best ever. (Equal best, in the case of a runoff against Macron.)Pulpstar said:
Goodo, hopefully she'll move back into sub 4s again so I can relay trade her.Cyan said:Latest Opinionway poll puts Le Pen at 28% in R1, and in the runoff at 41% against Macron and 45% against Fillon.
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"...not in the least..." through gritted teeth! V funny.Alanbrooke said:
not in the least, I find it all hugely amusingTOPPING said:
hurting much?Alanbrooke said:
the curious death of the Evening StandardMarkHopkins said:
So what tag shall we use for this GO-ES story?
#gogate
#editorgate
#3jobgate
Actually, scratch that last one, the way things are going it might be out of date soon.
the upside must be GO is on his way out since his multijobbing is ultimately untenable
a good day for the UK0 -
Anyway, now that it's clear that the meritocracy we live in is one where a total lack of knowledge and experience is no bar to a job, I'm expecting to be appointed Editor of the Times this evening, Chair of the Royal College of Surgeons on Monday and Deputy Governor of the Bank of England on Tuesday.
After all, I've written a few thread headers, had more than 10 operations and have an Economics degree. In truth, I'm over qualified.
God knows what I'll do with the rest of my free time, though.0 -
I dont live in London, it's bubble land it doesnt affect meTOPPING said:
"...not in the least..." through gritted teeth! V funny.Alanbrooke said:
not in the least, I find it all hugely amusingTOPPING said:
hurting much?Alanbrooke said:
the curious death of the Evening StandardMarkHopkins said:
So what tag shall we use for this GO-ES story?
#gogate
#editorgate
#3jobgate
Actually, scratch that last one, the way things are going it might be out of date soon.
the upside must be GO is on his way out since his multijobbing is ultimately untenable
a good day for the UK
I can only note your problem with dog mess has just got bigger0 -
Chancellor of the Exchequer. You never know: there might be a vacancy soon.Cyclefree said:Anyway, now that it's clear that the meritocracy we live in is one where a total lack of knowledge and experience is no bar to a job, I'm expecting to be appointed Editor of the Times this evening, Chair of the Royal College of Surgeons on Monday and Deputy Governor of the Bank of England on Tuesday.
After all, I've written a few thread headers, had more than 10 operations and have an Economics degree. In truth, I'm over qualified.
God knows what I'll do with the rest of my free time, though.0 -
Seems likely Osborne will be out by 2020. His seat is going and why would any constituency party be interested in taking on someone who clearly wasn't interested anymore?
Whole thing is bizarre as he has gone out of his way to say, 'Dave may have gone, but I'm staying - who knows where my parliamentary career will go' etc etc.0 -
Have you considered standing for Parliament?Cyclefree said:Anyway, now that it's clear that the meritocracy we live in is one where a total lack of knowledge and experience is no bar to a job, I'm expecting to be appointed Editor of the Times this evening, Chair of the Royal College of Surgeons on Monday and Deputy Governor of the Bank of England on Tuesday.
After all, I've written a few thread headers, had more than 10 operations and have an Economics degree. In truth, I'm over qualified.
God knows what I'll do with the rest of my free time, though.0 -
Gove said people are sick of experts. Newspaper proprietors clearly are.david_herdson said:
Chancellor of the Exchequer. You never know: there might be a vacancy soon.Cyclefree said:Anyway, now that it's clear that the meritocracy we live in is one where a total lack of knowledge and experience is no bar to a job, I'm expecting to be appointed Editor of the Times this evening, Chair of the Royal College of Surgeons on Monday and Deputy Governor of the Bank of England on Tuesday.
After all, I've written a few thread headers, had more than 10 operations and have an Economics degree. In truth, I'm over qualified.
God knows what I'll do with the rest of my free time, though.0 -
I'd vote for Miss Cyclefree.
Will you be standing as an independent, or as part of the Patrick Party?0 -
Mr. Borough, didn't Gove say people were fed up with experts who were consistently wrong? Didn't actually watch his interview with Faisal Islam.0
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A number of people have suggested it. As a joke, I imagine.Carolus_Rex said:
Have you considered standing for Parliament?Cyclefree said:Anyway, now that it's clear that the meritocracy we live in is one where a total lack of knowledge and experience is no bar to a job, I'm expecting to be appointed Editor of the Times this evening, Chair of the Royal College of Surgeons on Monday and Deputy Governor of the Bank of England on Tuesday.
After all, I've written a few thread headers, had more than 10 operations and have an Economics degree. In truth, I'm over qualified.
God knows what I'll do with the rest of my free time, though.
I am uncontrollable and know and speak my own mind plus I have more skeletons than cupboards to put them in. So the chances of me being chosen - even if I went for it - are about the same as the chances of me being picked for the UK Athletics team.
If TSE ever becomes Benevolent Dictator I shall be his Consigliere and tell him what to do.
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I suspect he's thinking more of a dominatrixCyclefree said:
A number of people have suggested it. As a joke, I imagine.Carolus_Rex said:
Have you considered standing for Parliament?Cyclefree said:Anyway, now that it's clear that the meritocracy we live in is one where a total lack of knowledge and experience is no bar to a job, I'm expecting to be appointed Editor of the Times this evening, Chair of the Royal College of Surgeons on Monday and Deputy Governor of the Bank of England on Tuesday.
After all, I've written a few thread headers, had more than 10 operations and have an Economics degree. In truth, I'm over qualified.
God knows what I'll do with the rest of my free time, though.
I am uncontrollable and know and speak my own mind plus I have more skeletons than cupboards to put them in. So the chances of me being chosen - even if I went for it - are about the same as the chances of me being picked for the UK Athletics team.
If TSE ever becomes Benevolent Dictator I shall be his Consigliere and tell him what to do.0 -
Come the revolution, my ambition is to be the first one against the wall.Cyclefree said:
A number of people have suggested it. As a joke, I imagine.Carolus_Rex said:
Have you considered standing for Parliament?Cyclefree said:Anyway, now that it's clear that the meritocracy we live in is one where a total lack of knowledge and experience is no bar to a job, I'm expecting to be appointed Editor of the Times this evening, Chair of the Royal College of Surgeons on Monday and Deputy Governor of the Bank of England on Tuesday.
After all, I've written a few thread headers, had more than 10 operations and have an Economics degree. In truth, I'm over qualified.
God knows what I'll do with the rest of my free time, though.
I am uncontrollable and know and speak my own mind plus I have more skeletons than cupboards to put them in. So the chances of me being chosen - even if I went for it - are about the same as the chances of me being picked for the UK Athletics team.
If TSE ever becomes Benevolent Dictator I shall be his Consigliere and tell him what to do.0 -
Good. Someone will need to.Cyclefree said:
A number of people have suggested it. As a joke, I imagine.Carolus_Rex said:
Have you considered standing for Parliament?Cyclefree said:Anyway, now that it's clear that the meritocracy we live in is one where a total lack of knowledge and experience is no bar to a job, I'm expecting to be appointed Editor of the Times this evening, Chair of the Royal College of Surgeons on Monday and Deputy Governor of the Bank of England on Tuesday.
After all, I've written a few thread headers, had more than 10 operations and have an Economics degree. In truth, I'm over qualified.
God knows what I'll do with the rest of my free time, though.
I am uncontrollable and know and speak my own mind plus I have more skeletons than cupboards to put them in. So the chances of me being chosen - even if I went for it - are about the same as the chances of me being picked for the UK Athletics team.
If TSE ever becomes Benevolent Dictator I shall be his Consigliere and tell him what to do.
Just like the Portuguese chap who died thinking he was still in charge when power had long since been moved away.0 -
Come on now. He is a hugely important figure in modern politics, hugely intelligent, hugely influential, in fact, let me rewrite that. He is [hugely (important + intelligent + influential + other stuff)].Cyclefree said:Anyway, now that it's clear that the meritocracy we live in is one where a total lack of knowledge and experience is no bar to a job, I'm expecting to be appointed Editor of the Times this evening, Chair of the Royal College of Surgeons on Monday and Deputy Governor of the Bank of England on Tuesday.
After all, I've written a few thread headers, had more than 10 operations and have an Economics degree. In truth, I'm over qualified.
God knows what I'll do with the rest of my free time, though.
As a punter you have to be pleased that he now has a platform which has such a reach.0 -
digging. stop.Alanbrooke said:
I dont live in London, it's bubble land it doesnt affect meTOPPING said:
"...not in the least..." through gritted teeth! V funny.Alanbrooke said:
not in the least, I find it all hugely amusingTOPPING said:
hurting much?Alanbrooke said:
the curious death of the Evening StandardMarkHopkins said:
So what tag shall we use for this GO-ES story?
#gogate
#editorgate
#3jobgate
Actually, scratch that last one, the way things are going it might be out of date soon.
the upside must be GO is on his way out since his multijobbing is ultimately untenable
a good day for the UK
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You'd get my vote that's for sure.Cyclefree said:
A number of people have suggested it. As a joke, I imagine.Carolus_Rex said:
Have you considered standing for Parliament?Cyclefree said:Anyway, now that it's clear that the meritocracy we live in is one where a total lack of knowledge and experience is no bar to a job, I'm expecting to be appointed Editor of the Times this evening, Chair of the Royal College of Surgeons on Monday and Deputy Governor of the Bank of England on Tuesday.
After all, I've written a few thread headers, had more than 10 operations and have an Economics degree. In truth, I'm over qualified.
God knows what I'll do with the rest of my free time, though.
I am uncontrollable and know and speak my own mind plus I have more skeletons than cupboards to put them in. So the chances of me being chosen - even if I went for it - are about the same as the chances of me being picked for the UK Athletics team.
If TSE ever becomes Benevolent Dictator I shall be his Consigliere and tell him what to do.0 -
knee tremblers are rarely as good as you imagineAlastairMeeks said:
Come the revolution, my ambition is to be the first one against the wall.Cyclefree said:
A number of people have suggested it. As a joke, I imagine.Carolus_Rex said:
Have you considered standing for Parliament?Cyclefree said:Anyway, now that it's clear that the meritocracy we live in is one where a total lack of knowledge and experience is no bar to a job, I'm expecting to be appointed Editor of the Times this evening, Chair of the Royal College of Surgeons on Monday and Deputy Governor of the Bank of England on Tuesday.
After all, I've written a few thread headers, had more than 10 operations and have an Economics degree. In truth, I'm over qualified.
God knows what I'll do with the rest of my free time, though.
I am uncontrollable and know and speak my own mind plus I have more skeletons than cupboards to put them in. So the chances of me being chosen - even if I went for it - are about the same as the chances of me being picked for the UK Athletics team.
If TSE ever becomes Benevolent Dictator I shall be his Consigliere and tell him what to do.0 -
Who are you expecting to be leading this revolution? Outraged clients?AlastairMeeks said:
Come the revolution, my ambition is to be the first one against the wall.Cyclefree said:
A number of people have suggested it. As a joke, I imagine.Carolus_Rex said:
Have you considered standing for Parliament?Cyclefree said:Anyway, now that it's clear that the meritocracy we live in is one where a total lack of knowledge and experience is no bar to a job, I'm expecting to be appointed Editor of the Times this evening, Chair of the Royal College of Surgeons on Monday and Deputy Governor of the Bank of England on Tuesday.
After all, I've written a few thread headers, had more than 10 operations and have an Economics degree. In truth, I'm over qualified.
God knows what I'll do with the rest of my free time, though.
I am uncontrollable and know and speak my own mind plus I have more skeletons than cupboards to put them in. So the chances of me being chosen - even if I went for it - are about the same as the chances of me being picked for the UK Athletics team.
If TSE ever becomes Benevolent Dictator I shall be his Consigliere and tell him what to do.0 -
Well, George Osborne isn't my MP - he's in the neighbouring constituency. But if I was a Tory voter in Tatton (like, for example, my parents) I'd consider this a far bigger betrayal than had he decided to cross the floor. He's said he's going to be 'the voice of London'. I consider myself quite articulate, but I'm struggling for words to express my feelings towards him now. "Piss off George, you big fucking ponce" start to get close. But, you know, stronger.
The voice of London, indeed. You're supposed to be representing Tatton, George.
What. A. Twat.
I don't know how the local party feels, but is there any mechanism for forcing a by-election?
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As a rank and file conservative I think he should stand down - too much of a conflict but more important an insult to his constituents.TOPPING said:I am interested to know what the rank & file Cons MPs think of the appointment.
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You're an MP? I'm a rank and file Conservative (and conservative); our views are ten a penny.Big_G_NorthWales said:
As a rank and file conservative I think he should stand down - too much of a conflict but more important an insult to his constituents.TOPPING said:I am interested to know what the rank & file Cons MPs think of the appointment.
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Why would TSE (or anyone else) want to become Benevolent Dictator?Cyclefree said:
A number of people have suggested it. As a joke, I imagine.Carolus_Rex said:
Have you considered standing for Parliament?Cyclefree said:Anyway, now that it's clear that the meritocracy we live in is one where a total lack of knowledge and experience is no bar to a job, I'm expecting to be appointed Editor of the Times this evening, Chair of the Royal College of Surgeons on Monday and Deputy Governor of the Bank of England on Tuesday.
After all, I've written a few thread headers, had more than 10 operations and have an Economics degree. In truth, I'm over qualified.
God knows what I'll do with the rest of my free time, though.
I am uncontrollable and know and speak my own mind plus I have more skeletons than cupboards to put them in. So the chances of me being chosen - even if I went for it - are about the same as the chances of me being picked for the UK Athletics team.
If TSE ever becomes Benevolent Dictator I shall be his Consigliere and tell him what to do.
Dictator maybe, but benevolent? Where's the fun in that?0 -
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And you think I couldn't do that?Alanbrooke said:
I suspect he's thinking more of a dominatrixCyclefree said:
A number of people have suggested it. As a joke, I imagine.Carolus_Rex said:
Have you considered standing for Parliament?Cyclefree said:Anyway, now that it's clear that the meritocracy we live in is one where a total lack of knowledge and experience is no bar to a job, I'm expecting to be appointed Editor of the Times this evening, Chair of the Royal College of Surgeons on Monday and Deputy Governor of the Bank of England on Tuesday.
After all, I've written a few thread headers, had more than 10 operations and have an Economics degree. In truth, I'm over qualified.
God knows what I'll do with the rest of my free time, though.
I am uncontrollable and know and speak my own mind plus I have more skeletons than cupboards to put them in. So the chances of me being chosen - even if I went for it - are about the same as the chances of me being picked for the UK Athletics team.
If TSE ever becomes Benevolent Dictator I shall be his Consigliere and tell him what to do.
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At the moment, two French presidential debates are scheduled for Monday: one on TV hosted by TF1, the other on Facebook hosted by Explicite. Arthaud, Cheminade and Poutou say they will attend the Explicite one, assuming in Cheminade and Poutou's cases that they get enough nominations. Explicite have also invited Dupont-Aignan and Asselineau but they have yet to confirm whether they'll take part.
Asselineau is calling for invitees to the TF1 debate - the top five: Macron, Fillon, Le Pen, Mélenchon, and Hamon - to withdraw from it.0 -
Well said - exactly. I hope your counterparts in Tatton feel the same.Big_G_NorthWales said:
As a rank and file conservative I think he should stand down - too much of a conflict but more important an insult to his constituents.TOPPING said:I am interested to know what the rank & file Cons MPs think of the appointment.
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Whenever London independence is raised on PB, the punters come up with cruel and unusual ways of placing Our World's Capital under siege. I see a malign dam has been proposed today. Next time, I expect to hear of some sort of giant tarpaulin being hoist from Croydon to Enfield, to shut out the light.0
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it's rather I doubt Eagles could afford the hourly rate :-)Cyclefree said:
And you think I couldn't do that?Alanbrooke said:
I suspect he's thinking more of a dominatrixCyclefree said:
A number of people have suggested it. As a joke, I imagine.Carolus_Rex said:
Have you considered standing for Parliament?Cyclefree said:Anyway, now that it's clear that the meritocracy we live in is one where a total lack of knowledge and experience is no bar to a job, I'm expecting to be appointed Editor of the Times this evening, Chair of the Royal College of Surgeons on Monday and Deputy Governor of the Bank of England on Tuesday.
After all, I've written a few thread headers, had more than 10 operations and have an Economics degree. In truth, I'm over qualified.
God knows what I'll do with the rest of my free time, though.
I am uncontrollable and know and speak my own mind plus I have more skeletons than cupboards to put them in. So the chances of me being chosen - even if I went for it - are about the same as the chances of me being picked for the UK Athletics team.
If TSE ever becomes Benevolent Dictator I shall be his Consigliere and tell him what to do.0 -
Missed the bit about MP's but I expect my view will be fairly close to most MP's. It is unacceptableTOPPING said:
You're an MP? I'm a rank and file Conservative (and conservative); our views are ten a penny.Big_G_NorthWales said:
As a rank and file conservative I think he should stand down - too much of a conflict but more important an insult to his constituents.TOPPING said:I am interested to know what the rank & file Cons MPs think of the appointment.
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@Big_G_NorthWales: voice of Conservative MPs. Good to know.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Missed the bit about MP's but I expect my view will be fairly close to most MP's. It is unacceptableTOPPING said:
You're an MP? I'm a rank and file Conservative (and conservative); our views are ten a penny.Big_G_NorthWales said:
As a rank and file conservative I think he should stand down - too much of a conflict but more important an insult to his constituents.TOPPING said:I am interested to know what the rank & file Cons MPs think of the appointment.
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