The interesting dynamic now is that the Tories don't need the support of London, politically speaking.
They can basically get a majority from provincial England and Wales............
They need London's tax revenues though.
Yes, but those will flow anyway until someone gets serious about a London independence party. For now it is basically a hostage capital.
London has no right to independence.
It is the ancient capital of England (and the UK) and belongs to the country, and neither can survive without each other.
Good Lord!
Colchester and Winchester say hello.
Say at the 2020 general election a majority of London MPs are from a London Independence Party, will you say they have no right to independence then?
Britain leaving the EU is awkward, but doable.
Scotland leaving Britain is much harder, but possible.
London leaving England is fantasy land.
How could London possibly be independent from the rest of England when a huge % of London workers don't live there and a huge % of those who live there weren't born there? Who'd get a vote?
I see the deranged wibbling of London independence has arisen. I feel that now would be a good time for me to mention that The Last Kingdom got off to a good start, not least because super blonde nuns pave the way to televisual delight.
This is quite a substantive job. I don't think that there is any chance George would have taken it if he thought that there was any chance of him being offered a senior post by the government in the near future. Which is a pity. There is a dearth of talent in our politics generally, not just in the Labour Party, and it is too valuable to waste like this.
Indeed. But talent needs to come tempered with good judgement. Ozzy got the national view and doing what is right badly wrong. So he had to go. Bit like that Bank of England lady. Super clever but an idiot.
arrogant idiot at that , both of them, totally wrong that these effete elite tos**** get handed top jobs purely on their silver spooned upbringing
Check out five-pensions Eck's extra-parliamentary earnings. At least the Tories get rid of their losers.
its eeyore, get over it Monica , get a job , work hard and get your own pensions instead of fixating on others who have done it.
Professional Nat Eck is as happy as a pig at trough in Westminster and on the LBC, laughing up his sleeve at gullible mugs like you.
The interesting dynamic now is that the Tories don't need the support of London, politically speaking.
They can basically get a majority from provincial England and Wales............
They need London's tax revenues though.
Yes, but those will flow anyway until someone gets serious about a London independence party. For now it is basically a hostage capital.
London has no right to independence.
It is the ancient capital of England (and the UK) and belongs to the country, and neither can survive without each other.
Good Lord!
Colchester and Winchester say hello.
Say at the 2020 general election a majority of London MPs are from a London Independence Party, will you say they have no right to independence then?
Britain leaving the EU is awkward, but doable.
Scotland leaving Britain is much harder, but possible.
London leaving England is fantasy land.
Dam the Thames at Rainham and see how far the water rises before they capitulate.
It's astonishing how quickly the little Englanders resort to ideas that African dictators would blush to contemplate.
Mr Meeks, it was a joke.
Whenever the subject of London independence comes up, the riposte is usually (1) close the border (2) hold them to ransom over food (3) hold them to ransom over water (4) hold them to ransom over energy. But right round the world there are countries that are interdependent where such behaviour would be seen as completely beyond the pale. It shows a prickly defensiveness.
I can well understand why the idea of an independent London irks many. Resorting to threats, however jokey, to rebut the idea isn't likely to make it go away.
To go back to a point I made a couple of weeks ago (and I'm still wondering about whether to do a thread header on the subject): if Britain is to prosper in the future, the effete metropolitans and the country bumpkins are going to need to look to see if they can find common ground and common values, work out what unites them instead of what divides them.
But what if there isn't enough to justify hanging together? What then?
The interesting dynamic now is that the Tories don't need the support of London, politically speaking.
They can basically get a majority from provincial England and Wales............
They need London's tax revenues though.
Yes, but those will flow anyway until someone gets serious about a London independence party. For now it is basically a hostage capital.
London has no right to independence.
It is the ancient capital of England (and the UK) and belongs to the country, and neither can survive without each other.
Good Lord!
Colchester and Winchester say hello.
Say at the 2020 general election a majority of London MPs are from a London Independence Party, will you say they have no right to independence then?
Britain leaving the EU is awkward, but doable.
Scotland leaving Britain is much harder, but possible.
London leaving England is fantasy land.
Dam the Thames at Rainham and see how far the water rises before they capitulate.
It's astonishing how quickly the little Englanders resort to ideas that African dictators would blush to contemplate.
Mr Meeks, it was a joke.
Whenever the subject of London independence comes up, the riposte is usually (1) close the border (2) hold them to ransom over food (3) hold them to ransom over water (4) hold them to ransom over energy. But right round the world there are countries that are interdependent where such behaviour would be seen as completely beyond the pale. It shows a prickly defensiveness.
I can well understand why the idea of an independent London irks many. Resorting to threats, however jokey, to rebut the idea isn't likely to make it go away.
To go back to a point I made a couple of weeks ago (and I'm still wondering about whether to do a thread header on the subject): if Britain is to prosper in the future, the effete metropolitans and the country bumpkins are going to need to look to see if they can find common ground and common values, work out what unites them instead of what divides them.
But what if there isn't enough to justify hanging together? What then?
The interesting dynamic now is that the Tories don't need the support of London, politically speaking.
They can basically get a majority from provincial England and Wales............
They need London's tax revenues though.
Yes, but those will flow anyway until someone gets serious about a London independence party. For now it is basically a hostage capital.
London has no right to independence.
It is the ancient capital of England (and the UK) and belongs to the country, and neither can survive without each other.
Good Lord!
Colchester and Winchester say hello.
Say at the 2020 general election a majority of London MPs are from a London Independence Party, will you say they have no right to independence then?
Britain leaving the EU is awkward, but doable.
Scotland leaving Britain is much harder, but possible.
London leaving England is fantasy land.
How could London possibly be independent from the rest of England when a huge % of London workers don't live there and a huge % of those who live there weren't born there? Who'd get a vote?
Many of us London workers don't even live in England !
The interesting dynamic now is that the Tories don't need the support of London, politically speaking.
They can basically get a majority from provincial England and Wales............
They need London's tax revenues though.
Yes, but those will flow anyway until someone gets serious about a London independence party. For now it is basically a hostage capital.
London has no right to independence.
It is the ancient capital of England (and the UK) and belongs to the country, and neither can survive without each other.
Good Lord!
Colchester and Winchester say hello.
Say at the 2020 general election a majority of London MPs are from a London Independence Party, will you say they have no right to independence then?
Britain leaving the EU is awkward, but doable.
Scotland leaving Britain is much harder, but possible.
London leaving England is fantasy land.
Dam the Thames at Rainham and see how far the water rises before they capitulate.
It's astonishing how quickly the little Englanders resort to ideas that African dictators would blush to contemplate.
Mr Meeks, it was a joke.
Whenever the subject of London independence comes up, the riposte is usually (1) close the border (2) hold them to ransom over food (3) hold them to ransom over water (4) hold them to ransom over energy. But right round the world there are countries that are interdependent where such behaviour would be seen as completely beyond the pale. It shows a prickly defensiveness.
I can well understand why the idea of an independent London irks many. Resorting to threats, however jokey, to rebut the idea isn't likely to make it go away.
To go back to a point I made a couple of weeks ago (and I'm still wondering about whether to do a thread header on the subject): if Britain is to prosper in the future, the effete metropolitans and the country bumpkins are going to need to look to see if they can find common ground and common values, work out what unites them instead of what divides them.
But what if there isn't enough to justify hanging together? What then?
Then one side will impose itself on the other, in some form.
And you have to remember that as with all civil wars - whether physical or cultural - there is no clean division. They divide within towns, villages and families as well as between them.
The interesting dynamic now is that the Tories don't need the support of London, politically speaking.
They can basically get a majority from provincial England and Wales............
They need London's tax revenues though.
Yes, but those will flow anyway until someone gets serious about a London independence party. For now it is basically a hostage capital.
London has no right to independence.
It is the ancient capital of England (and the UK) and belongs to the country, and neither can survive without each other.
Good Lord!
Colchester and Winchester say hello.
Say at the 2020 general election a majority of London MPs are from a London Independence Party, will you say they have no right to independence then?
Britain leaving the EU is awkward, but doable.
Scotland leaving Britain is much harder, but possible.
London leaving England is fantasy land.
Dam the Thames at Rainham and see how far the water rises before they capitulate.
It's astonishing how quickly the little Englanders resort to ideas that African dictators would blush to contemplate.
Mr Meeks, it was a joke.
Whenever the subject of London independence comes up, the riposte is usually (1) close the border (2) hold them to ransom over food (3) hold them to ransom over water (4) hold them to ransom over energy. But right round the world there are countries that are interdependent where such behaviour would be seen as completely beyond the pale. It shows a prickly defensiveness.
I can well understand why the idea of an independent London irks many. Resorting to threats, however jokey, to rebut the idea isn't likely to make it go away.
To go back to a point I made a couple of weeks ago (and I'm still wondering about whether to do a thread header on the subject): if Britain is to prosper in the future, the effete metropolitans and the country bumpkins are going to need to look to see if they can find common ground and common values, work out what unites them instead of what divides them.
But what if there isn't enough to justify hanging together? What then?
The interesting dynamic now is that the Tories don't need the support of London, politically speaking.
They can basically get a majority from provincial England and Wales............
They need London's tax revenues though.
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Good Lord!
Colchester and Winchester say hello.
Say at the 2020 general election a majority of London MPs are from a London Independence Party, will you say they have no right to independence then?
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Mr Meeks, it was a joke.
Whenever the subject of London independence comes up, the riposte is usually (1) close the border (2) hold them to ransom over food (3) hold them to ransom over water (4) hold them to ransom over energy. But right round the world there are countries that are interdependent where such behaviour would be seen as completely beyond the pale. It shows a prickly defensiveness.
I can well understand why the idea of an independent London irks many. Resorting to threats, however jokey, to rebut the idea isn't likely to make it go away.
To go back to a point I made a couple of weeks ago (and I'm still wondering about whether to do a thread header on the subject): if Britain is to prosper in the future, the effete metropolitans and the country bumpkins are going to need to look to see if they can find common ground and common values, work out what unites them instead of what divides them.
But what if there isn't enough to justify hanging together? What then?
The divide is a false one, of course. Those that live in the country aren't bumpkins, and neither are those living in the capital all effete. It's only those who don't visit or live or work in either (I do both: work in London, live in the country and visit all over the UK - usually rural mini-breaks) that think in such terms.
There is plenty that unites us.
My point stands though: London doesn't just belong to the transient Londoners who currently happen to live in London, it belongs to the whole country, and is serviced by it and which services it in turn, so I do not believe it has any right to independence.
It *does* have a right to be involved in the national conversation, respected and, the EU referendum result aside (perhaps) it is.
The interesting dynamic now is that the Tories don't need the support of London, politically speaking.
They can basically get a majority from provincial England and Wales............
They need London's tax revenues though.
Yes, but those will flow anyway until someone gets serious about a London independence party. For now it is basically a hostage capital.
London has no right to independence.
It is the ancient capital of England (and the UK) and belongs to the country, and neither can survive without each other.
Good Lord!
Colchester and Winchester say hello.
Say at the 2020 general election a majority of London MPs are from a London Independence Party, will you say they have no right to independence then?
Britain leaving the EU is awkward, but doable.
Scotland leaving Britain is much harder, but possible.
London leaving England is fantasy land.
Dam the Thames at Rainham and see how far the water rises before they capitulate.
It's astonishing how quickly the little Englanders resort to ideas that African dictators would blush to contemplate.
Mr Meeks, it was a joke.
Whenever the subject of London independence comes up, the riposte is usually (1) close the border (2) hold them to ransom over food (3) hold them to ransom over water (4) hold them to ransom over energy. But right round the world there are countries that are interdependent where such behaviour would be seen as completely beyond the pale. It shows a prickly defensiveness.
I can well understand why the idea of an independent London irks many. Resorting to threats, however jokey, to rebut the idea isn't likely to make it go away.
To go back to a point I made a couple of weeks ago (and I'm still wondering about whether to do a thread header on the subject): if Britain is to prosper in the future, the effete metropolitans and the country bumpkins are going to need to look to see if they can find common ground and common values, work out what unites them instead of what divides them.
But what if there isn't enough to justify hanging together? What then?
I thin it's pretty clear where you stand on the question so jog on.
The divide is a false one, of course. Those that live in the country aren't bumpkins, and neither are those living in the capital all effete. It's only those who don't visit or live or work in either (I do both: work in London, live in the country and visit all over the UK - usually rural mini-breaks) that think in such terms.
There is plenty that unites us.
My point stands though: London doesn't just belong to the transient Londoners who currently happen to live in London, it belongs to the whole country, and is serviced by it and which services it in turn, so I do not believe it has any right to independence.
It *does* have a right to be involved in the national conversation, respected and, the EU referendum result aside (perhaps) it is.
Your assertion that "There is plenty that unites us" is one that is trotted out a lot by those on both sides. Yet it is never backed up with any concrete examples.
Whenever the subject of London independence comes up, the riposte is usually (1) close the border (2) hold them to ransom over food (3) hold them to ransom over water (4) hold them to ransom over energy. But right round the world there are countries that are interdependent where such behaviour would be seen as completely beyond the pale. It shows a prickly defensiveness.
I can well understand why the idea of an independent London irks many. Resorting to threats, however jokey, to rebut the idea isn't likely to make it go away.
To go back to a point I made a couple of weeks ago (and I'm still wondering about whether to do a thread header on the subject): if Britain is to prosper in the future, the effete metropolitans and the country bumpkins are going to need to look to see if they can find common ground and common values, work out what unites them instead of what divides them.
But what if there isn't enough to justify hanging together? What then?
Then one side will impose itself on the other, in some form.
And you have to remember that as with all civil wars - whether physical or cultural - there is no clean division. They divide within towns, villages and families as well as between them.
Whoa, there. Civil war? Defensive prickliness? This is little more than blokeish banter.
As for the divide between effete metrosexuals and country bumpkins - there are damned few of the latter on here. As ever, the effect of the Internet is to magnify the narcissism of small differences. There's probably a small difference between those who choose to live in the city proper vs suburbia (which, to all intents and purposes, covers the vast majority of the population, now); as much as anything, though, what we tend to see here is a contest of caricatures. I rather suspect Alistair is significantly more charming than his de haut en bas internet persona; those of us who react to his more provocative posts are also adopting our own cliches when we do so.
The divide is a false one, of course. Those that live in the country aren't bumpkins, and neither are those living in the capital all effete. It's only those who don't visit or live or work in either (I do both: work in London, live in the country and visit all over the UK - usually rural mini-breaks) that think in such terms.
There is plenty that unites us.
My point stands though: London doesn't just belong to the transient Londoners who currently happen to live in London, it belongs to the whole country, and is serviced by it and which services it in turn, so I do not believe it has any right to independence.
It *does* have a right to be involved in the national conversation, respected and, the EU referendum result aside (perhaps) it is.
Your assertion that "There is plenty that unites us" is one that is trotted out a lot by those on both sides. Yet it is never backed up with any concrete examples.
If London did gain independence, with the way people vote Jezza would be the London PM.
The divide is a false one, of course. Those that live in the country aren't bumpkins, and neither are those living in the capital all effete. It's only those who don't visit or live or work in either (I do both: work in London, live in the country and visit all over the UK - usually rural mini-breaks) that think in such terms.
There is plenty that unites us.
My point stands though: London doesn't just belong to the transient Londoners who currently happen to live in London, it belongs to the whole country, and is serviced by it and which services it in turn, so I do not believe it has any right to independence.
It *does* have a right to be involved in the national conversation, respected and, the EU referendum result aside (perhaps) it is.
Your assertion that "There is plenty that unites us" is one that is trotted out a lot by those on both sides. Yet it is never backed up with any concrete examples.
You're a country bumpkin posing as a city slicker. You represent both sides, united in one being.
The divide is a false one, of course. Those that live in the country aren't bumpkins, and neither are those living in the capital all effete. It's only those who don't visit or live or work in either (I do both: work in London, live in the country and visit all over the UK - usually rural mini-breaks) that think in such terms.
There is plenty that unites us.
My point stands though: London doesn't just belong to the transient Londoners who currently happen to live in London, it belongs to the whole country, and is serviced by it and which services it in turn, so I do not believe it has any right to independence.
It *does* have a right to be involved in the national conversation, respected and, the EU referendum result aside (perhaps) it is.
Your assertion that "There is plenty that unites us" is one that is trotted out a lot by those on both sides. Yet it is never backed up with any concrete examples.
If London did gain independence, with the way people vote Jezza would be the London PM.
I expect that Barnet, Hillingdon, Havering, Bromley, Richmond, Kingston, Sutton, Bexley, Wandsworth, Kensington, and Westminster would want to secede back into England.
The divide is a false one, of course. Those that live in the country aren't bumpkins, and neither are those living in the capital all effete. It's only those who don't visit or live or work in either (I do both: work in London, live in the country and visit all over the UK - usually rural mini-breaks) that think in such terms.
There is plenty that unites us.
My point stands though: London doesn't just belong to the transient Londoners who currently happen to live in London, it belongs to the whole country, and is serviced by it and which services it in turn, so I do not believe it has any right to independence.
It *does* have a right to be involved in the national conversation, respected and, the EU referendum result aside (perhaps) it is.
Your assertion that "There is plenty that unites us" is one that is trotted out a lot by those on both sides. Yet it is never backed up with any concrete examples.
If London did gain independence, with the way people vote Jezza would be the London PM.
I expect that Barnet, Hillingdon, Havering, Bromley, Richmond, Kingston, Sutton, Bexley, Wandsworth, Kensington, and Westminster would want to secede back into England.
And the north part of Enfield too. They can keep Ponders End and Edmonton though.
The divide is a false one, of course. Those that live in the country aren't bumpkins, and neither are those living in the capital all effete. It's only those who don't visit or live or work in either (I do both: work in London, live in the country and visit all over the UK - usually rural mini-breaks) that think in such terms.
There is plenty that unites us.
My point stands though: London doesn't just belong to the transient Londoners who currently happen to live in London, it belongs to the whole country, and is serviced by it and which services it in turn, so I do not believe it has any right to independence.
It *does* have a right to be involved in the national conversation, respected and, the EU referendum result aside (perhaps) it is.
Your assertion that "There is plenty that unites us" is one that is trotted out a lot by those on both sides. Yet it is never backed up with any concrete examples.
If London did gain independence, with the way people vote Jezza would be the London PM.
I expect that Barnet, Hillingdon, Havering, Bromley, Richmond, Kingston, Sutton, Bexley, Wandsworth, Kensington, and Westminster would want to secede back into England.
So we can pretty much just keep south of the river.
The divide is a false one, of course. Those that live in the country aren't bumpkins, and neither are those living in the capital all effete. It's only those who don't visit or live or work in either (I do both: work in London, live in the country and visit all over the UK - usually rural mini-breaks) that think in such terms.
There is plenty that unites us.
My point stands though: London doesn't just belong to the transient Londoners who currently happen to live in London, it belongs to the whole country, and is serviced by it and which services it in turn, so I do not believe it has any right to independence.
It *does* have a right to be involved in the national conversation, respected and, the EU referendum result aside (perhaps) it is.
Your assertion that "There is plenty that unites us" is one that is trotted out a lot by those on both sides. Yet it is never backed up with any concrete examples.
If London did gain independence, with the way people vote Jezza would be the London PM.
I expect that Barnet, Hillingdon, Havering, Bromley, Richmond, Kingston, Sutton, Bexley, Wandsworth, Kensington, and Westminster would want to secede back into England.
So we can pretty much just keep south of the river.
The divide is a false one, of course. Those that live in the country aren't bumpkins, and neither are those living in the capital all effete. It's only those who don't visit or live or work in either (I do both: work in London, live in the country and visit all over the UK - usually rural mini-breaks) that think in such terms.
There is plenty that unites us.
My point stands though: London doesn't just belong to the transient Londoners who currently happen to live in London, it belongs to the whole country, and is serviced by it and which services it in turn, so I do not believe it has any right to independence.
It *does* have a right to be involved in the national conversation, respected and, the EU referendum result aside (perhaps) it is.
Your assertion that "There is plenty that unites us" is one that is trotted out a lot by those on both sides. Yet it is never backed up with any concrete examples.
If London did gain independence, with the way people vote Jezza would be the London PM.
I expect that Barnet, Hillingdon, Havering, Bromley, Richmond, Kingston, Sutton, Bexley, Wandsworth, Kensington, and Westminster would want to secede back into England.
London definitely seems more popular with people that aren't from London.
The divide is a false one, of course. Those that live in the country aren't bumpkins, and neither are those living in the capital all effete. It's only those who don't visit or live or work in either (I do both: work in London, live in the country and visit all over the UK - usually rural mini-breaks) that think in such terms.
There is plenty that unites us.
My point stands though: London doesn't just belong to the transient Londoners who currently happen to live in London, it belongs to the whole country, and is serviced by it and which services it in turn, so I do not believe it has any right to independence.
It *does* have a right to be involved in the national conversation, respected and, the EU referendum result aside (perhaps) it is.
Your assertion that "There is plenty that unites us" is one that is trotted out a lot by those on both sides. Yet it is never backed up with any concrete examples.
If London did gain independence, with the way people vote Jezza would be the London PM.
I expect that Barnet, Hillingdon, Havering, Bromley, Richmond, Kingston, Sutton, Bexley, Wandsworth, Kensington, and Westminster would want to secede back into England.
So we can pretty much just keep south of the river.
The divide is a false one, of course. Those that live in the country aren't bumpkins, and neither are those living in the capital all effete. It's only those who don't visit or live or work in either (I do both: work in London, live in the country and visit all over the UK - usually rural mini-breaks) that think in such terms.
There is plenty that unites us.
My point stands though: London doesn't just belong to the transient Londoners who currently happen to live in London, it belongs to the whole country, and is serviced by it and which services it in turn, so I do not believe it has any right to independence.
It *does* have a right to be involved in the national conversation, respected and, the EU referendum result aside (perhaps) it is.
Your assertion that "There is plenty that unites us" is one that is trotted out a lot by those on both sides. Yet it is never backed up with any concrete examples.
If London did gain independence, with the way people vote Jezza would be the London PM.
I expect that Barnet, Hillingdon, Havering, Bromley, Richmond, Kingston, Sutton, Bexley, Wandsworth, Kensington, and Westminster would want to secede back into England.
So we can pretty much just keep south of the river.
The divide is a false one, of course. Those that live in the country aren't bumpkins, and neither are those living in the capital all effete. It's only those who don't visit or live or work in either (I do both: work in London, live in the country and visit all over the UK - usually rural mini-breaks) that think in such terms.
There is plenty that unites us.
My point stands though: London doesn't just belong to the transient Londoners who currently happen to live in London, it belongs to the whole country, and is serviced by it and which services it in turn, so I do not believe it has any right to independence.
It *does* have a right to be involved in the national conversation, respected and, the EU referendum result aside (perhaps) it is.
Your assertion that "There is plenty that unites us" is one that is trotted out a lot by those on both sides. Yet it is never backed up with any concrete examples.
If London did gain independence, with the way people vote Jezza would be the London PM.
I expect that Barnet, Hillingdon, Havering, Bromley, Richmond, Kingston, Sutton, Bexley, Wandsworth, Kensington, and Westminster would want to secede back into England.
So we can pretty much just keep south of the river.
The divide is a false one, of course. Those that live in the country aren't bumpkins, and neither are those living in the capital all effete. It's only those who don't visit or live or work in either (I do both: work in London, live in the country and visit all over the UK - usually rural mini-breaks) that think in such terms.
There is plenty that unites us.
My point stands though: London doesn't just belong to the transient Londoners who currently happen to live in London, it belongs to the whole country, and is serviced by it and which services it in turn, so I do not believe it has any right to independence.
It *does* have a right to be involved in the national conversation, respected and, the EU referendum result aside (perhaps) it is.
Your assertion that "There is plenty that unites us" is one that is trotted out a lot by those on both sides. Yet it is never backed up with any concrete examples.
If London did gain independence, with the way people vote Jezza would be the London PM.
I expect that Barnet, Hillingdon, Havering, Bromley, Richmond, Kingston, Sutton, Bexley, Wandsworth, Kensington, and Westminster would want to secede back into England.
So we can pretty much just keep south of the river.
The divide is a false one, of course. Those that live in the country aren't bumpkins, and neither are those living in the capital all effete. It's only those who don't visit or live or work in either (I do both: work in London, live in the country and visit all over the UK - usually rural mini-breaks) that think in such terms.
There is plenty that unites us.
My point stands though: London doesn't just belong to the transient Londoners who currently happen to live in London, it belongs to the whole country, and is serviced by it and which services it in turn, so I do not believe it has any right to independence.
It *does* have a right to be involved in the national conversation, respected and, the EU referendum result aside (perhaps) it is.
Your assertion that "There is plenty that unites us" is one that is trotted out a lot by those on both sides. Yet it is never backed up with any concrete examples.
If London did gain independence, with the way people vote Jezza would be the London PM.
I expect that Barnet, Hillingdon, Havering, Bromley, Richmond, Kingston, Sutton, Bexley, Wandsworth, Kensington, and Westminster would want to secede back into England.
Wouldn't that produce about ten customs checks on the District Line?
Mr. Blue, saw that earlier. Whilst there was the odd nutcase, the vast majority seemed united in having their collective gast flabbered the question was even being asked, particularly in a way that implied it was a given that blasphemy warranted punishment.
The divide is a false one, of course. Those that live in the country aren't bumpkins, and neither are those living in the capital all effete. It's only those who don't visit or live or work in either (I do both: work in London, live in the country and visit all over the UK - usually rural mini-breaks) that think in such terms.
There is plenty that unites us.
My point stands though: London doesn't just belong to the transient Londoners who currently happen to live in London, it belongs to the whole country, and is serviced by it and which services it in turn, so I do not believe it has any right to independence.
It *does* have a right to be involved in the national conversation, respected and, the EU referendum result aside (perhaps) it is.
Your assertion that "There is plenty that unites us" is one that is trotted out a lot by those on both sides. Yet it is never backed up with any concrete examples.
If London did gain independence, with the way people vote Jezza would be the London PM.
I expect that Barnet, Hillingdon, Havering, Bromley, Richmond, Kingston, Sutton, Bexley, Wandsworth, Kensington, and Westminster would want to secede back into England.
London definitely seems more popular with people that aren't from London.
That's profoundly true. It should be immortalized as Isam's Rule.
The divide is a false one, of course. Those that live in the country aren't bumpkins, and neither are those living in the capital all effete. It's only those who don't visit or live or work in either (I do both: work in London, live in the country and visit all over the UK - usually rural mini-breaks) that think in such terms.
There is plenty that unites us.
My point stands though: London doesn't just belong to the transient Londoners who currently happen to live in London, it belongs to the whole country, and is serviced by it and which services it in turn, so I do not believe it has any right to independence.
It *does* have a right to be involved in the national conversation, respected and, the EU referendum result aside (perhaps) it is.
Your assertion that "There is plenty that unites us" is one that is trotted out a lot by those on both sides. Yet it is never backed up with any concrete examples.
If London did gain independence, with the way people vote Jezza would be the London PM.
I expect that Barnet, Hillingdon, Havering, Bromley, Richmond, Kingston, Sutton, Bexley, Wandsworth, Kensington, and Westminster would want to secede back into England.
Wouldn't that produce about ten customs checks on the District Line?
I'm quite interested in the logic, since, for example, Kensington and Westminster voted over 2:1 for Remain. I think Sean has just chosen places that he feels should belong to little England without any reference to underlying facts.
The divide is a false one, of course. Those that live in the country aren't bumpkins, and neither are those living in the capital all effete. It's only those who don't visit or live or work in either (I do both: work in London, live in the country and visit all over the UK - usually rural mini-breaks) that think in such terms.
There is plenty that unites us.
My point stands though: London doesn't just belong to the transient Londoners who currently happen to live in London, it belongs to the whole country, and is serviced by it and which services it in turn, so I do not believe it has any right to independence.
It *does* have a right to be involved in the national conversation, respected and, the EU referendum result aside (perhaps) it is.
Your assertion that "There is plenty that unites us" is one that is trotted out a lot by those on both sides. Yet it is never backed up with any concrete examples.
If London did gain independence, with the way people vote Jezza would be the London PM.
I expect that Barnet, Hillingdon, Havering, Bromley, Richmond, Kingston, Sutton, Bexley, Wandsworth, Kensington, and Westminster would want to secede back into England.
Wouldn't that produce about ten customs checks on the District Line?
I'm quite interested in the logic, since, for example, Kensington and Westminster voted over 2:1 for Remain. I think Sean has just chosen places that he feels should belong to little England without any reference to underlying facts.
I chose the places that voted Conservative, and would be most unlikely to be happy with someone like Jeremy Corbyn in charge.
The divide is a false one, of course. Those that live in the country aren't bumpkins, and neither are those living in the capital all effete. It's only those who don't visit or live or work in either (I do both: work in London, live in the country and visit all over the UK - usually rural mini-breaks) that think in such terms.
There is plenty that unites us.
My point stands though: London doesn't just belong to the transient Londoners who currently happen to live in London, it belongs to the whole country, and is serviced by it and which services it in turn, so I do not believe it has any right to independence.
It *does* have a right to be involved in the national conversation, respected and, the EU referendum result aside (perhaps) it is.
Your assertion that "There is plenty that unites us" is one that is trotted out a lot by those on both sides. Yet it is never backed up with any concrete examples.
If London did gain independence, with the way people vote Jezza would be the London PM.
I expect that Barnet, Hillingdon, Havering, Bromley, Richmond, Kingston, Sutton, Bexley, Wandsworth, Kensington, and Westminster would want to secede back into England.
Wouldn't that produce about ten customs checks on the District Line?
I'm quite interested in the logic, since, for example, Kensington and Westminster voted over 2:1 for Remain. I think Sean has just chosen places that he feels should belong to little England without any reference to underlying facts.
Heh. I think the idea that the Remain vote is a proxy for a vote for secession is, at the very least, questionable.
Mr. Blue, saw that earlier. Whilst there was the odd nutcase, the vast majority seemed united in having their collective gast flabbered the question was even being asked, particularly in a way that implied it was a given that blasphemy warranted punishment.
It is the fact that a public broadcaster thinks that such a question is even worth raising which is so disturbing. How many license fee payers would be happy about it?
Mr. Blue, saw that earlier. Whilst there was the odd nutcase, the vast majority seemed united in having their collective gast flabbered the question was even being asked, particularly in a way that implied it was a given that blasphemy warranted punishment.
It's been a long time since the era of Whitehouse prosecuting blasphemy. It's not even illegal anymore since 2008, a rare positive free speech reform from Labour.
Excellent Gold Cup - I thought Djakadam had it with a mile to go, Native River super plucky staying on but both done nicely by Sizing John with Minella Rocco swooping in just too late.
Mr. Blue, most of them won't notice. As Cameron once said, Twitter isn't Britain, and I doubt Asian Network is one of the more watched (listened to?) channels.
I agree it's disturbing.
Edited extra bit: maybe not de jure, Mr. Thompson. How many papers and broadcasters reproduced the Hebdo covers after the murders?
Incidentally, I think the suggestion that the Standard under Osborne's no-doubt charismatic leadership will be hostile to Sadiq Khan is likely to prove very far from the mark. I'd expect rather the reverse, in fact.
Actually, scratch that last one, the way things are going it might be out of date soon.
Indeed, double it. According to Sky News he's now "six jobs Osborne" which rather trumps "two jags Prescott".
And they're running with the conflict of interest angle too: "For Mr. Osborne's critics, the question will arise of how, with so many other hats, it will be possible for him to discharge his duties effectively as an MP, not only in terms of time but also in terms of voting without prejudice. For example, how will he now vote on press regulation? And if a vote takes place on transport funding, for whom does the ex-Chancellor speak? His northern Cheshire constituents or Londoners for whom he promised today to "be their voice"?"
Incidentally, I think the suggestion that the Standard under Osborne's no-doubt charismatic leadership will be hostile to Sadiq Khan is likely to prove very far from the mark. I'd expect rather the reverse, in fact.
But, but... what about the huuuuge differences between the two major parties at GE2015?!
Your Oval Office announcements about the devastation a labour govt would have caused to our portfolios?! ☺
Mr. Blue, most of them won't notice. As Cameron once said, Twitter isn't Britain, and I doubt Asian Network is one of the more watched (listened to?) channels.
I agree it's disturbing.
Edited extra bit: maybe not de jure, Mr. Thompson. How many papers and broadcasters reproduced the Hebdo covers after the murders?
There are about 50 devoted Asian channels on Sky, something for everyone
The divide is a false one, of course. Those that live in the country aren't bumpkins, and neither are those living in the capital all effete. It's only those who don't visit or live or work in either (I do both: work in London, live in the country and visit all over the UK - usually rural mini-breaks) that think in such terms.
There is plenty that unites us.
My point stands though: London doesn't just belong to the transient Londoners who currently happen to live in London, it belongs to the whole country, and is serviced by it and which services it in turn, so I do not believe it has any right to independence.
It *does* have a right to be involved in the national conversation, respected and, the EU referendum result aside (perhaps) it is.
Your assertion that "There is plenty that unites us" is one that is trotted out a lot by those on both sides. Yet it is never backed up with any concrete examples.
If London did gain independence, with the way people vote Jezza would be the London PM.
I expect that Barnet, Hillingdon, Havering, Bromley, Richmond, Kingston, Sutton, Bexley, Wandsworth, Kensington, and Westminster would want to secede back into England.
Wouldn't that produce about ten customs checks on the District Line?
I'm quite interested in the logic, since, for example, Kensington and Westminster voted over 2:1 for Remain. I think Sean has just chosen places that he feels should belong to little England without any reference to underlying facts.
Leave/Remain is a relatively trivial division as these things go.
Amused at the pejorative use of the phrase Little England by a London independencer.
Anyway, now that it's clear that the meritocracy we live in is one where a total lack of knowledge and experience is no bar to a job, I'm expecting to be appointed Editor of the Times this evening, Chair of the Royal College of Surgeons on Monday and Deputy Governor of the Bank of England on Tuesday.
After all, I've written a few thread headers, had more than 10 operations and have an Economics degree. In truth, I'm over qualified.
God knows what I'll do with the rest of my free time, though.
Anyway, now that it's clear that the meritocracy we live in is one where a total lack of knowledge and experience is no bar to a job, I'm expecting to be appointed Editor of the Times this evening, Chair of the Royal College of Surgeons on Monday and Deputy Governor of the Bank of England on Tuesday.
After all, I've written a few thread headers, had more than 10 operations and have an Economics degree. In truth, I'm over qualified.
God knows what I'll do with the rest of my free time, though.
Chancellor of the Exchequer. You never know: there might be a vacancy soon.
Seems likely Osborne will be out by 2020. His seat is going and why would any constituency party be interested in taking on someone who clearly wasn't interested anymore?
Whole thing is bizarre as he has gone out of his way to say, 'Dave may have gone, but I'm staying - who knows where my parliamentary career will go' etc etc.
Anyway, now that it's clear that the meritocracy we live in is one where a total lack of knowledge and experience is no bar to a job, I'm expecting to be appointed Editor of the Times this evening, Chair of the Royal College of Surgeons on Monday and Deputy Governor of the Bank of England on Tuesday.
After all, I've written a few thread headers, had more than 10 operations and have an Economics degree. In truth, I'm over qualified.
God knows what I'll do with the rest of my free time, though.
Anyway, now that it's clear that the meritocracy we live in is one where a total lack of knowledge and experience is no bar to a job, I'm expecting to be appointed Editor of the Times this evening, Chair of the Royal College of Surgeons on Monday and Deputy Governor of the Bank of England on Tuesday.
After all, I've written a few thread headers, had more than 10 operations and have an Economics degree. In truth, I'm over qualified.
God knows what I'll do with the rest of my free time, though.
Chancellor of the Exchequer. You never know: there might be a vacancy soon.
Gove said people are sick of experts. Newspaper proprietors clearly are.
Anyway, now that it's clear that the meritocracy we live in is one where a total lack of knowledge and experience is no bar to a job, I'm expecting to be appointed Editor of the Times this evening, Chair of the Royal College of Surgeons on Monday and Deputy Governor of the Bank of England on Tuesday.
After all, I've written a few thread headers, had more than 10 operations and have an Economics degree. In truth, I'm over qualified.
God knows what I'll do with the rest of my free time, though.
Have you considered standing for Parliament?
A number of people have suggested it. As a joke, I imagine.
I am uncontrollable and know and speak my own mind plus I have more skeletons than cupboards to put them in. So the chances of me being chosen - even if I went for it - are about the same as the chances of me being picked for the UK Athletics team.
If TSE ever becomes Benevolent Dictator I shall be his Consigliere and tell him what to do.
Anyway, now that it's clear that the meritocracy we live in is one where a total lack of knowledge and experience is no bar to a job, I'm expecting to be appointed Editor of the Times this evening, Chair of the Royal College of Surgeons on Monday and Deputy Governor of the Bank of England on Tuesday.
After all, I've written a few thread headers, had more than 10 operations and have an Economics degree. In truth, I'm over qualified.
God knows what I'll do with the rest of my free time, though.
Have you considered standing for Parliament?
A number of people have suggested it. As a joke, I imagine.
I am uncontrollable and know and speak my own mind plus I have more skeletons than cupboards to put them in. So the chances of me being chosen - even if I went for it - are about the same as the chances of me being picked for the UK Athletics team.
If TSE ever becomes Benevolent Dictator I shall be his Consigliere and tell him what to do.
Anyway, now that it's clear that the meritocracy we live in is one where a total lack of knowledge and experience is no bar to a job, I'm expecting to be appointed Editor of the Times this evening, Chair of the Royal College of Surgeons on Monday and Deputy Governor of the Bank of England on Tuesday.
After all, I've written a few thread headers, had more than 10 operations and have an Economics degree. In truth, I'm over qualified.
God knows what I'll do with the rest of my free time, though.
Have you considered standing for Parliament?
A number of people have suggested it. As a joke, I imagine.
I am uncontrollable and know and speak my own mind plus I have more skeletons than cupboards to put them in. So the chances of me being chosen - even if I went for it - are about the same as the chances of me being picked for the UK Athletics team.
If TSE ever becomes Benevolent Dictator I shall be his Consigliere and tell him what to do.
Come the revolution, my ambition is to be the first one against the wall.
Anyway, now that it's clear that the meritocracy we live in is one where a total lack of knowledge and experience is no bar to a job, I'm expecting to be appointed Editor of the Times this evening, Chair of the Royal College of Surgeons on Monday and Deputy Governor of the Bank of England on Tuesday.
After all, I've written a few thread headers, had more than 10 operations and have an Economics degree. In truth, I'm over qualified.
God knows what I'll do with the rest of my free time, though.
Have you considered standing for Parliament?
A number of people have suggested it. As a joke, I imagine.
I am uncontrollable and know and speak my own mind plus I have more skeletons than cupboards to put them in. So the chances of me being chosen - even if I went for it - are about the same as the chances of me being picked for the UK Athletics team.
If TSE ever becomes Benevolent Dictator I shall be his Consigliere and tell him what to do.
Good. Someone will need to. Just like the Portuguese chap who died thinking he was still in charge when power had long since been moved away.
Anyway, now that it's clear that the meritocracy we live in is one where a total lack of knowledge and experience is no bar to a job, I'm expecting to be appointed Editor of the Times this evening, Chair of the Royal College of Surgeons on Monday and Deputy Governor of the Bank of England on Tuesday.
After all, I've written a few thread headers, had more than 10 operations and have an Economics degree. In truth, I'm over qualified.
God knows what I'll do with the rest of my free time, though.
Come on now. He is a hugely important figure in modern politics, hugely intelligent, hugely influential, in fact, let me rewrite that. He is [hugely (important + intelligent + influential + other stuff)].
As a punter you have to be pleased that he now has a platform which has such a reach.
Anyway, now that it's clear that the meritocracy we live in is one where a total lack of knowledge and experience is no bar to a job, I'm expecting to be appointed Editor of the Times this evening, Chair of the Royal College of Surgeons on Monday and Deputy Governor of the Bank of England on Tuesday.
After all, I've written a few thread headers, had more than 10 operations and have an Economics degree. In truth, I'm over qualified.
God knows what I'll do with the rest of my free time, though.
Have you considered standing for Parliament?
A number of people have suggested it. As a joke, I imagine.
I am uncontrollable and know and speak my own mind plus I have more skeletons than cupboards to put them in. So the chances of me being chosen - even if I went for it - are about the same as the chances of me being picked for the UK Athletics team.
If TSE ever becomes Benevolent Dictator I shall be his Consigliere and tell him what to do.
Anyway, now that it's clear that the meritocracy we live in is one where a total lack of knowledge and experience is no bar to a job, I'm expecting to be appointed Editor of the Times this evening, Chair of the Royal College of Surgeons on Monday and Deputy Governor of the Bank of England on Tuesday.
After all, I've written a few thread headers, had more than 10 operations and have an Economics degree. In truth, I'm over qualified.
God knows what I'll do with the rest of my free time, though.
Have you considered standing for Parliament?
A number of people have suggested it. As a joke, I imagine.
I am uncontrollable and know and speak my own mind plus I have more skeletons than cupboards to put them in. So the chances of me being chosen - even if I went for it - are about the same as the chances of me being picked for the UK Athletics team.
If TSE ever becomes Benevolent Dictator I shall be his Consigliere and tell him what to do.
Come the revolution, my ambition is to be the first one against the wall.
Anyway, now that it's clear that the meritocracy we live in is one where a total lack of knowledge and experience is no bar to a job, I'm expecting to be appointed Editor of the Times this evening, Chair of the Royal College of Surgeons on Monday and Deputy Governor of the Bank of England on Tuesday.
After all, I've written a few thread headers, had more than 10 operations and have an Economics degree. In truth, I'm over qualified.
God knows what I'll do with the rest of my free time, though.
Have you considered standing for Parliament?
A number of people have suggested it. As a joke, I imagine.
I am uncontrollable and know and speak my own mind plus I have more skeletons than cupboards to put them in. So the chances of me being chosen - even if I went for it - are about the same as the chances of me being picked for the UK Athletics team.
If TSE ever becomes Benevolent Dictator I shall be his Consigliere and tell him what to do.
Come the revolution, my ambition is to be the first one against the wall.
Who are you expecting to be leading this revolution? Outraged clients?
Well, George Osborne isn't my MP - he's in the neighbouring constituency. But if I was a Tory voter in Tatton (like, for example, my parents) I'd consider this a far bigger betrayal than had he decided to cross the floor. He's said he's going to be 'the voice of London'. I consider myself quite articulate, but I'm struggling for words to express my feelings towards him now. "Piss off George, you big fucking ponce" start to get close. But, you know, stronger. The voice of London, indeed. You're supposed to be representing Tatton, George. What. A. Twat.
I don't know how the local party feels, but is there any mechanism for forcing a by-election?
Anyway, now that it's clear that the meritocracy we live in is one where a total lack of knowledge and experience is no bar to a job, I'm expecting to be appointed Editor of the Times this evening, Chair of the Royal College of Surgeons on Monday and Deputy Governor of the Bank of England on Tuesday.
After all, I've written a few thread headers, had more than 10 operations and have an Economics degree. In truth, I'm over qualified.
God knows what I'll do with the rest of my free time, though.
Have you considered standing for Parliament?
A number of people have suggested it. As a joke, I imagine.
I am uncontrollable and know and speak my own mind plus I have more skeletons than cupboards to put them in. So the chances of me being chosen - even if I went for it - are about the same as the chances of me being picked for the UK Athletics team.
If TSE ever becomes Benevolent Dictator I shall be his Consigliere and tell him what to do.
Why would TSE (or anyone else) want to become Benevolent Dictator?
Dictator maybe, but benevolent? Where's the fun in that?
Anyway, now that it's clear that the meritocracy we live in is one where a total lack of knowledge and experience is no bar to a job, I'm expecting to be appointed Editor of the Times this evening, Chair of the Royal College of Surgeons on Monday and Deputy Governor of the Bank of England on Tuesday.
After all, I've written a few thread headers, had more than 10 operations and have an Economics degree. In truth, I'm over qualified.
God knows what I'll do with the rest of my free time, though.
Have you considered standing for Parliament?
A number of people have suggested it. As a joke, I imagine.
I am uncontrollable and know and speak my own mind plus I have more skeletons than cupboards to put them in. So the chances of me being chosen - even if I went for it - are about the same as the chances of me being picked for the UK Athletics team.
If TSE ever becomes Benevolent Dictator I shall be his Consigliere and tell him what to do.
At the moment, two French presidential debates are scheduled for Monday: one on TV hosted by TF1, the other on Facebook hosted by Explicite. Arthaud, Cheminade and Poutou say they will attend the Explicite one, assuming in Cheminade and Poutou's cases that they get enough nominations. Explicite have also invited Dupont-Aignan and Asselineau but they have yet to confirm whether they'll take part.
Asselineau is calling for invitees to the TF1 debate - the top five: Macron, Fillon, Le Pen, Mélenchon, and Hamon - to withdraw from it.
Whenever London independence is raised on PB, the punters come up with cruel and unusual ways of placing Our World's Capital under siege. I see a malign dam has been proposed today. Next time, I expect to hear of some sort of giant tarpaulin being hoist from Croydon to Enfield, to shut out the light.
Anyway, now that it's clear that the meritocracy we live in is one where a total lack of knowledge and experience is no bar to a job, I'm expecting to be appointed Editor of the Times this evening, Chair of the Royal College of Surgeons on Monday and Deputy Governor of the Bank of England on Tuesday.
After all, I've written a few thread headers, had more than 10 operations and have an Economics degree. In truth, I'm over qualified.
God knows what I'll do with the rest of my free time, though.
Have you considered standing for Parliament?
A number of people have suggested it. As a joke, I imagine.
I am uncontrollable and know and speak my own mind plus I have more skeletons than cupboards to put them in. So the chances of me being chosen - even if I went for it - are about the same as the chances of me being picked for the UK Athletics team.
If TSE ever becomes Benevolent Dictator I shall be his Consigliere and tell him what to do.
I suspect he's thinking more of a dominatrix
And you think I couldn't do that?
it's rather I doubt Eagles could afford the hourly rate :-)
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He will quit as MP soon, we know he loves doing u-turns.
https://twitter.com/rbrharrison/status/842725035915857920
I see the deranged wibbling of London independence has arisen. I feel that now would be a good time for me to mention that The Last Kingdom got off to a good start, not least because super blonde nuns pave the way to televisual delight.
I can well understand why the idea of an independent London irks many. Resorting to threats, however jokey, to rebut the idea isn't likely to make it go away.
To go back to a point I made a couple of weeks ago (and I'm still wondering about whether to do a thread header on the subject): if Britain is to prosper in the future, the effete metropolitans and the country bumpkins are going to need to look to see if they can find common ground and common values, work out what unites them instead of what divides them.
But what if there isn't enough to justify hanging together? What then?
And you have to remember that as with all civil wars - whether physical or cultural - there is no clean division. They divide within towns, villages and families as well as between them.
There is plenty that unites us.
My point stands though: London doesn't just belong to the transient Londoners who currently happen to live in London, it belongs to the whole country, and is serviced by it and which services it in turn, so I do not believe it has any right to independence.
It *does* have a right to be involved in the national conversation, respected and, the EU referendum result aside (perhaps) it is.
Whenever the subject of London independence comes up, the riposte is usually (1) close the border (2) hold them to ransom over food (3) hold them to ransom over water (4) hold them to ransom over energy. But right round the world there are countries that are interdependent where such behaviour would be seen as completely beyond the pale. It shows a prickly defensiveness.
I can well understand why the idea of an independent London irks many. Resorting to threats, however jokey, to rebut the idea isn't likely to make it go away.
To go back to a point I made a couple of weeks ago (and I'm still wondering about whether to do a thread header on the subject): if Britain is to prosper in the future, the effete metropolitans and the country bumpkins are going to need to look to see if they can find common ground and common values, work out what unites them instead of what divides them.
But what if there isn't enough to justify hanging together? What then?
Then one side will impose itself on the other, in some form.
And you have to remember that as with all civil wars - whether physical or cultural - there is no clean division. They divide within towns, villages and families as well as between them.
Whoa, there. Civil war? Defensive prickliness? This is little more than blokeish banter.
As for the divide between effete metrosexuals and country bumpkins - there are damned few of the latter on here. As ever, the effect of the Internet is to magnify the narcissism of small differences. There's probably a small difference between those who choose to live in the city proper vs suburbia (which, to all intents and purposes, covers the vast majority of the population, now); as much as anything, though, what we tend to see here is a contest of caricatures. I rather suspect Alistair is significantly more charming than his de haut en bas internet persona; those of us who react to his more provocative posts are also adopting our own cliches when we do so.
"'Go at them the Greys! Scotland for ever!"
At this point it genuinely wouldn't surprise me if @George_Osborne hired David Cameron as his deputy.
https://twitter.com/wesstreeting/status/842713844116021248
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5hQvxtA9Dg
They can keep Ponders End and Edmonton though.
https://mobile.twitter.com/bbcasiannetwork/status/842672388223483904
That is far more important than all the tittle tattle about Osborne.
Next story?
A classic, for all the low expectations.
I agree it's disturbing.
Edited extra bit: maybe not de jure, Mr. Thompson. How many papers and broadcasters reproduced the Hebdo covers after the murders?
So what tag shall we use for this GO-ES story?
#gogate
#editorgate
#3jobgate
Actually, scratch that last one, the way things are going it might be out of date soon.
https://data.london.gov.uk/apps_and_analysis/gla-household-income-estimates/
And they're running with the conflict of interest angle too:
"For Mr. Osborne's critics, the question will arise of how, with so many other hats, it will be possible for him to discharge his duties effectively as an MP, not only in terms of time but also in terms of voting without prejudice. For example, how will he now vote on press regulation? And if a vote takes place on transport funding, for whom does the ex-Chancellor speak? His northern Cheshire constituents or Londoners for whom he promised today to "be their voice"?"
http://news.sky.com/story/george-osbornes-evening-standard-role-raises-potential-conflicts-of-interest-10805063
Your Oval Office announcements about the devastation a labour govt would have caused to our portfolios?! ☺
the upside must be GO is on his way out since his multijobbing is ultimately untenable
a good day for the UK
Amused at the pejorative use of the phrase Little England by a London independencer.
After all, I've written a few thread headers, had more than 10 operations and have an Economics degree. In truth, I'm over qualified.
God knows what I'll do with the rest of my free time, though.
I can only note your problem with dog mess has just got bigger
Whole thing is bizarre as he has gone out of his way to say, 'Dave may have gone, but I'm staying - who knows where my parliamentary career will go' etc etc.
Will you be standing as an independent, or as part of the Patrick Party?
I am uncontrollable and know and speak my own mind plus I have more skeletons than cupboards to put them in. So the chances of me being chosen - even if I went for it - are about the same as the chances of me being picked for the UK Athletics team.
If TSE ever becomes Benevolent Dictator I shall be his Consigliere and tell him what to do.
Just like the Portuguese chap who died thinking he was still in charge when power had long since been moved away.
As a punter you have to be pleased that he now has a platform which has such a reach.
The voice of London, indeed. You're supposed to be representing Tatton, George.
What. A. Twat.
I don't know how the local party feels, but is there any mechanism for forcing a by-election?
Dictator maybe, but benevolent? Where's the fun in that?
Asselineau is calling for invitees to the TF1 debate - the top five: Macron, Fillon, Le Pen, Mélenchon, and Hamon - to withdraw from it.