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AlastairMeeks said:

isam said:

AlastairMeeks said:

isam said:

AlastairMeeks said:

https://twitter.com/election_data/status/833357835568349189

Ian Warren has in the past advised Labour nationally on the threat from UKIP.

Not much help until he tells us what it should be!

We had Lib Dems on here saying they should be 9/4 when they were 66s

True, but it's a signal that the Conservatives might be in the mix. He's a commentator I'd pay some attention to on this.

I took 35/1 for the MAX!!!!!!

https://twitter.com/election_data/status/833368812246405120

https://twitter.com/election_data/status/833369632555806720

I'm really not all that sure. Nevertheless betway go 33-1 right now and I was able to get my full remaining balance of £3.96 on that; SkyBet restricted me to £2, Boyle £3.20 and Hills the princely sum of 61 pence.

Still clears out the Tory red and all..

rcs1000 said:

HYUFD said:

Peil Netherlands

PVV 29 VVD 25 GL 18 CDA 17 D66 14 PVDA 11 SP 11 50+ 10
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_Dutch_general_election,_2017

The changes on last week are:
PVV -1
VVD +1
GL +1
SP -1

Not too much change them

Sean_F said:

JackW said:

Sean_F said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Sean_F said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

This is how you win votes

Video: Ukip member caught on CCTV urinating and trying to push way into OAP's home in Stoke Central

http://m.stokesentinel.co.uk/video-ukip-member-caught-on-cctv-urinating-and-trying-to-push-way-into-oap-s-home-in-stoke-central/story-30147297-detail/story.html

That's very amusing.

O/T, I found No More Catholics Left as funny as you did. I bet Rangers fans will be singing it.

I wonder how many of them changed the PINs on their credit/debit cards after watching it though?

They should change them to 1916.

Mrs JackW intimated my PIN should be 1745 .... why should I change it to your number of pairs of shoes was my reply ...

Was my impudence worth her scowl? ....

1660 surely?

That's the number of Mrs JackW dresses !!

Evening all.

PB is long overdue a ‘guess the outcome’ quiz – If a sportsmen’s bet could be organised next week for Copeland and Stoke-on-Trent Central, it would be much appreciated.

FPT (hours ago...)

chestnut said:

MyBurningEars said:

Where SO is spot-on is that there is no serious appetite in the Republic for a reunion with the UK, and the economic consequences of Brexit are not going to change that, whatever the more fervent Brexiteers might think. Not the vast majority, but you get the odd one who thinks Britain's withdrawal from the EU not only makes Irexit more likely, but even a state reunion. The most bizarre place I've seen this prospect extolled was in an essay by Niall Ferguson - he may be a world-famous historian and I may be a nobody, but seriously, what a ****.

Who mentioned Ireland rejoining the rest of the British Isles? The issue is the importance of the EU to Ireland.

In a pre-Brexit world, 60% of imports come from the EU and 51% of exports go there. Most of it's trade is within the EU.

In a post-Brexit world, 36% of imports come from the EU and 38% of exports go there. Most of it's trade is beyond the EU perimeter fence.

The numbers speak for themselves in highlighting the diminished importance of the EU to Ireland post Brexit.

Where that leads, who knows? One thing is clear though, the Irish export more to the US of A than they do the fledgling, post-Brexit US of E.

I think there is quite a lot of transshipment through the UK to the rest of the EU, so I wouldn't necessarily believe those numbers.

I'd also point out the Irish are second only to the Dutch in their love for the Euro, with it managing something like +60 approval ratings. I simply can't see them sacrificing it.

Finally there is pride: the Irish will not want to have been seen to have been forced by the British to do something.

Sean_F said:

HYUFD said:

Peil Netherlands

PVV 29 VVD 25 GL 18 CDA 17 D66 14 PVDA 11 SP 11 50+ 10
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_Dutch_general_election,_2017

That's a big lead for the Right.

I suspect the coalition will be VVD + CDA + D66 + a couple of smaller guys. I can't see how the PVV gets a coalition together, to be honest.

(I'd also point out that in likelihood all the established parties are overstated by a seat or two, as there may be a couple of 'one man parties' that make the 0.66% cut, and which don't tend to be captured by the polls.)

Edit to add: the decline of the PVDA is remarkable.

MikeSmithson said:

https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/833355037741039616

To be honest, the real story here is of a confused old man wondering around not really in control of his actions. That he happened to be delivering UKIP leaflets while he was doing it is not really relevant. I'd hope that any UKIP party official that realised what the situation was would send him home, but there is a limit to how much control you can have in a voluntary organisation like a political party.

I wouldn't ever vote for UKIP myself, but we should be grateful to the people public spirited enough to put the hours in necessary for the rest of us to have a choice of candidate.

rcs1000 said:

Just on the Netherlands, it's worth noting that the PVV has tended to outperform its poll scores in real elections, so it might be worth thinking of them at the top end of the current 24-29 seat range.

Isn't about time you changed your avatar from one world leader to the greatest man on earth - Saint Paul Nuttall of Stoke?

JackW said:

rcs1000 said:

Just on the Netherlands, it's worth noting that the PVV has tended to outperform its poll scores in real elections, so it might be worth thinking of them at the top end of the current 24-29 seat range.

Isn't about time you changed your avatar from one world leader to the greatest man on earth - Saint Paul Nuttall of Stoke?

Some avatars do look a bit like that!

Mr. Indigo, fifteen million (unsure if that's pounds or dollars).

rcs1000 said:

Sean_F said:

HYUFD said:

Peil Netherlands

PVV 29 VVD 25 GL 18 CDA 17 D66 14 PVDA 11 SP 11 50+ 10
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_Dutch_general_election,_2017

That's a big lead for the Right.

I suspect the coalition will be VVD + CDA + D66 + a couple of smaller guys. I can't see how the PVV gets a coalition together, to be honest.

(I'd also point out that in likelihood all the established parties are overstated by a seat or two, as there may be a couple of 'one man parties' that make the 0.66% cut, and which don't tend to be captured by the polls.)

Edit to add: the decline of the PVDA is remarkable.

I don't see how including D66 works. Would it not be something like VVD, CDA, CU, with supply and confidence from PVV?

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. Indigo, fifteen million (unsure if that's pounds or dollars).

The 8m was a couple of years ago when he had about half the number of subscribers, so 15m dollars sounds about right. The key point here is he has 54m eyeballs watching him, and he is now engaged and pissed off, where as I dont believe he was either before.

https://twitter.com/coral/status/833384330101657600

JackW said:

rcs1000 said:

Just on the Netherlands, it's worth noting that the PVV has tended to outperform its poll scores in real elections, so it might be worth thinking of them at the top end of the current 24-29 seat range.

Isn't about time you changed your avatar from one world leader to the greatest man on earth - Saint Paul Nuttall of Stoke?

He is still being reviewed by the devil's advocate. He never said he was already canonised.

Five steps to heaven.

Step one: Wait five years - or don't. Step two: Become a 'servant of God' Step three: Show proof of a life of 'heroic virtue' Step four: Verified miracles. Step five: Canonisation.

The_Apocalypse said:

It should be said that having a significant presence online does not necessarily translate to being well known to the general public as a whole.

I've got to admit that even though I spend a fair amount of time on t'net, and believed I was fairly well informed, I'd never heard of that pewpiedie geezer until Plato (I think!) posted a link yesterday!

AlsoIndigo said:

The_Apocalypse said:

It should be said that having a significant presence online does not necessarily translate to being well known to the general public as a whole.

I think in this case that is wishful thinking, almost anyone that had a pre-teen or teen son a couple of years ago has heard of him, he was the main man for Maincraft videos. Let me put it this way, a whole load of people have heard of Casey Neistat, and he has about 11% of the subs of Pewdiepie. Not only that a load of people just subbed him to find out what he is all about, so now he is going to have a longer reach and get even richer!

Not really. I've never heard of him until now and have spent a considerable amount of time on YT.

Not everyone is into gaming. I spent most of my teen years on YT watching make-up tutorials (and I still watch them).

Recidivist said:

MikeSmithson said:

https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/833355037741039616

To be honest, the real story here is of a confused old man wondering around not really in control of his actions. That he happened to be delivering UKIP leaflets while he was doing it is not really relevant. I'd hope that any UKIP party official that realised what the situation was would send him home, but there is a limit to how much control you can have in a voluntary organisation like a political party.

I wouldn't ever vote for UKIP myself, but we should be grateful to the people public spirited enough to put the hours in necessary for the rest of us to have a choice of candidate.

Finding somewhere to pee can be a problem when out for hours delivering leaflets.

Always try to find a place where you are not overlooked - or a front garden with an opposition poster in the window,.

The_Apocalypse said:

It should be said that having a significant presence online does not necessarily translate to being well known to the general public as a whole.

Of course it has a name for such a phenomenom - being internet famous.

In his case his online presence is more than middling, it is massive, but outside gaming communities I doubt even his tens of millions of subscribers amount to much in the 'real' world, though there will be some ancillary vague awareness.

Though IIRC he had a cameo on South Park a few years back, which probably adds to it somewhat.

Kraft Heinz drops Unilever takeover bid.

After Kraft failed to meet its commitment on the Cadbury take over they were always going to get a kicking from MPs and thus ministers.

Kraft must have been misled by some investment bankers trying to earn a crust.

The_Apocalypse said:

AlsoIndigo said:

The_Apocalypse said:

It should be said that having a significant presence online does not necessarily translate to being well known to the general public as a whole.

I think in this case that is wishful thinking, almost anyone that had a pre-teen or teen son a couple of years ago has heard of him, he was the main man for Maincraft videos. Let me put it this way, a whole load of people have heard of Casey Neistat, and he has about 11% of the subs of Pewdiepie. Not only that a load of people just subbed him to find out what he is all about, so now he is going to have a longer reach and get even richer!

Not really. I've never heard of him until now and have spent a considerable amount of time on YT.

Not everyone is into gaming. I spent most of my teen years on YT watching make-up tutorials (and I still watch them).

54 million people appear to be, or 3 times the number of people that follow say BBC News on Twitter, still I am sure you are right, its not important.

kle4 said:

Though IIRC he had a cameo on South Park a few years back, which probably adds to it somewhat.

And a whole load of fuss made about him on prime time news in the last couple of days. You think people might learn, the same thing promoted Milo from a largely unknown alt-right troll to the top of the Amazon best seller list in one day.

WRT higher wages for prison officers in London and the South East - why are there still prisons in London and the South East?

Cyclefree said:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/02/19/kraft-heinz-abandons-115bn-unilever-mega-deal/

Yay - Marmite is safe!

That was my first thought on hearing the news. Don't mess with my breakfast!

That strong online presence is not neccessarily reflective of awareness or success in real life can be seen on Instagram. Selena Gomez has 99m followers, and was the most followed person on Instagram in 2016. This doesn't mean however, that Gomez is most successful singer real life. As has been acknowledged recently, singers such as Adele, Beyonce and even Rihanna are all more successful than Gomez in real life, despite having an online presence which is as less strong as her's.

The_Apocalypse said:

That strong online presence is not neccessarily reflective of awareness or success in real life can be seen on Instagram. Selena Gomez has 99m followers, and was the most followed person on Instagram in 2016. This doesn't mean however, that Gomez is most successful singer real life. As has been acknowledged recently, singers such as Adele, Beyonce - and even Rihanna are all more successful than Gomez in real life, despite having an online presence which is as less strong as her's.

The same was true of Milo until he ended up on the news after the college protest, then all of a sudden his book jumped the No.1 political book bought in the USA, in the Top 50 of ALL books bought in the USA, so that worked out well. Protest against the alt-right and boom everyone is reading their books.

GeoffM said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

WRT higher wages for prison officers in London and the South East - why are there still prisons in London and the South East?

I think you have to be locked up near your family. There's something in the Prison Act along those lines from memory ... but others on here will know better.

Really? FFS.

Sell them off as housing, and build prisons/rivet factories where they need jobs oop North.

I am not sure if this has been posted on here before and I am not knowledgeable enough about the internet trends discussed to know how accurate it is, but this is a fascinating read about one possible source for Trump's widespread support.

https://medium.com/@DaleBeran/4chan-the-skeleton-key-to-the-rise-of-trump-624e7cb798cb#.khaidnrpa

AlsoIndigo said:

The_Apocalypse said:

That strong online presence is not neccessarily reflective of awareness or success in real life can be seen on Instagram. Selena Gomez has 99m followers, and was the most followed person on Instagram in 2016. This doesn't mean however, that Gomez is most successful singer real life. As has been acknowledged recently, singers such as Adele, Beyonce - and even Rihanna are all more successful than Gomez in real life, despite having an online presence which is as less strong as her's.

The same was true of Milo until he ended up on the news after the college protest, then all of a sudden his book jumped the No.1 political book bought in the USA, in the Top 50 of ALL books bought in the USA, so that worked out well. Protest against the alt-right and boom everyone is reading their books.

Protests against Milo were not exclusively online. As you have just said, the activities of those at Berkley university ended up on TV news networks across the US, and thus who Milo was would have been made clear to your average person. Whereas online protests/opposition meant Milo was just a fringe name. Also Milo's name is nowhere to be seen here: https://www.nytimes.com/books/best-sellers/hardcover-political-books/ Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Books-Politics/zgbs/books/11079

The_Apocalypse said:

@RobD The article is dated February 2nd - the screen shot appears to be from then, not now.

Yes, how is that in contention with this statement:

"The same was true of Milo until he ended up on the news after the college protest, then all of a sudden his book jumped the No.1 political book bought in the USA, in the Top 50 of ALL books bought in the USA, so that worked out well."

The riots were on the 2nd. His book went to the top of the list on the 2nd.

https://twitter.com/barristersecret/status/833400349641863168

RobD said:

The_Apocalypse said:

@RobD The article is dated February 2nd - the screen shot appears to be from then, not now.

Yes, how is that in contention with this statement:

"The same was true of Milo until he ended up on the news after the college protest, then all of a sudden his book jumped the No.1 political book bought in the USA, in the Top 50 of ALL books bought in the USA, so that worked out well."

The riots were on the 2nd. His book went to the top of the list on the 2nd.

I know, my point is, is that Milo's not there anymore. The publicity he received was not enough to sustain his sales (at least seemingly in the top ten).

GeoffM said:

David_Evershed said:

Pong said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

WRT higher wages for prison officers in London and the South East - why are there still prisons in London and the South East?

Because crime happens in London and the South East, perhaps?

Carried out by northerners obviously.

But where does the North start?

Not sure if we've discussed that before. [ducks, runs]

The north is where the criminals come from. Simples.

David_Evershed said:

Kraft Heinz drops Unilever takeover bid.

After Kraft failed to meet its commitment on the Cadbury take over they were always going to get a kicking from MPs and thus ministers.

Kraft must have been misled by some investment bankers trying to earn a crust.

What would have been the competition grounds for MPs attempting to stop it?

rcs1000 said:

RobD said:

The_Apocalypse said:

AlsoIndigo said:

The_Apocalypse said:

That strong online presence is not neccessarily reflective of awareness or success in real life can be seen on Instagram. Selena Gomez has 99m followers, and was the most followed person on Instagram in 2016. This doesn't mean however, that Gomez is most successful singer real life. As has been acknowledged recently, singers such as Adele, Beyonce - and even Rihanna are all more successful than Gomez in real life, despite having an online presence which is as less strong as her's.

The same was true of Milo until he ended up on the news after the college protest, then all of a sudden his book jumped the No.1 political book bought in the USA, in the Top 50 of ALL books bought in the USA, so that worked out well. Protest against the alt-right and boom everyone is reading their books.

Protests against Milo were not exclusively online. As you have just said, the activities of those at Berkley university ended up on TV news networks across the US, and thus who Milo was would have been made clear to your average person. Whereas online protests/opposition meant Milo was just a fringe name. Also Milo's name is nowhere to be seen here: https://www.nytimes.com/books/best-sellers/hardcover-political-books/ Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Books-Politics/zgbs/books/11079

The list updates hourly.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/milos-upcoming-book-grabs-top-spot-on-amazons-best-seller-list_us_5894c8dfe4b09bd304bb3326

Milo's book has been successful; even very successful. But, if we're going to be honest, it's probably quite a lot less successful than the books published by one of PB's own.

Your father will be touched by the compliment.

matt said:

David_Evershed said:

Kraft Heinz drops Unilever takeover bid.

After Kraft failed to meet its commitment on the Cadbury take over they were always going to get a kicking from MPs and thus ministers.

Kraft must have been misled by some investment bankers trying to earn a crust.

What would have been the competition grounds for MPs attempting to stop it?

Not on competition grounds but because Kraft did not live up to its assurances about their Cadbury takeover - using the new 'industrial strategy' as the parliamentary excuse.

rcs1000 said:

RobD said:

The_Apocalypse said:

AlsoIndigo said:

The_Apocalypse said:

That strong online presence is not neccessarily reflective of awareness or success in real life can be seen on Instagram. Selena Gomez has 99m followers, and was the most followed person on Instagram in 2016. This doesn't mean however, that Gomez is most successful singer real life. As has been acknowledged recently, singers such as Adele, Beyonce - and even Rihanna are all more successful than Gomez in real life, despite having an online presence which is as less strong as her's.

The same was true of Milo until he ended up on the news after the college protest, then all of a sudden his book jumped the No.1 political book bought in the USA, in the Top 50 of ALL books bought in the USA, so that worked out well. Protest against the alt-right and boom everyone is reading their books.

Protests against Milo were not exclusively online. As you have just said, the activities of those at Berkley university ended up on TV news networks across the US, and thus who Milo was would have been made clear to your average person. Whereas online protests/opposition meant Milo was just a fringe name. Also Milo's name is nowhere to be seen here: https://www.nytimes.com/books/best-sellers/hardcover-political-books/ Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Books-Politics/zgbs/books/11079

The list updates hourly.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/milos-upcoming-book-grabs-top-spot-on-amazons-best-seller-list_us_5894c8dfe4b09bd304bb3326

Milo's book has been successful; even very successful. But, if we're going to be honest, it's probably quite a lot less successful than the books published by one of PB's own.

I wasn't aware Anne Frank posted here

Theuniondivvie said:

TwistedFireStopper said:

The_Apocalypse said:

It should be said that having a significant presence online does not necessarily translate to being well known to the general public as a whole.

I've got to admit that even though I spend a fair amount of time on t'net, and believed I was fairly well informed, I'd never heard of that pewpiedie geezer until Plato (I think!) posted a link yesterday!

Me neither.
The amount of people who had never heard of PewDiePie a week ago but have now decided he's a big player in the culture wars will soon be approaching the number of his YT subs.

And a significantly larger number now have him on their 'ignore this twazzock' list.

The_Apocalypse said:

AlsoIndigo said:

The_Apocalypse said:

That strong online presence is not neccessarily reflective of awareness or success in real life can be seen on Instagram. Selena Gomez has 99m followers, and was the most followed person on Instagram in 2016. This doesn't mean however, that Gomez is most successful singer real life. As has been acknowledged recently, singers such as Adele, Beyonce - and even Rihanna are all more successful than Gomez in real life, despite having an online presence which is as less strong as her's.

The same was true of Milo until he ended up on the news after the college protest, then all of a sudden his book jumped the No.1 political book bought in the USA, in the Top 50 of ALL books bought in the USA, so that worked out well. Protest against the alt-right and boom everyone is reading their books.

Protests against Milo were not exclusively online. As you have just said, the activities of those at Berkley university ended up on TV news networks across the US, and thus who Milo was would have been made clear to your average person. Whereas online protests/opposition meant Milo was just a fringe name. Also Milo's name is nowhere to be seen here: https://www.nytimes.com/books/best-sellers/hardcover-political-books/ Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Books-Politics/zgbs/books/11079

Sitting there at No1 and No 47 in mine right now.

AlsoIndigo said:

The_Apocalypse said:

AlsoIndigo said:

The_Apocalypse said:

That strong online presence is not neccessarily reflective of awareness or success in real life can be seen on Instagram. Selena Gomez has 99m followers, and was the most followed person on Instagram in 2016. This doesn't mean however, that Gomez is most successful singer real life. As has been acknowledged recently, singers such as Adele, Beyonce - and even Rihanna are all more successful than Gomez in real life, despite having an online presence which is as less strong as her's.

The same was true of Milo until he ended up on the news after the college protest, then all of a sudden his book jumped the No.1 political book bought in the USA, in the Top 50 of ALL books bought in the USA, so that worked out well. Protest against the alt-right and boom everyone is reading their books.

Protests against Milo were not exclusively online. As you have just said, the activities of those at Berkley university ended up on TV news networks across the US, and thus who Milo was would have been made clear to your average person. Whereas online protests/opposition meant Milo was just a fringe name. Also Milo's name is nowhere to be seen here: https://www.nytimes.com/books/best-sellers/hardcover-political-books/ Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Books-Politics/zgbs/books/11079

Sitting there at No1 and No 47 in mine right now.

I can't see your image. Can you link it?

AlsoIndigo said:

The_Apocalypse said:

AlsoIndigo said:

The_Apocalypse said:

That strong online presence is not neccessarily reflective of awareness or success in real life can be seen on Instagram. Selena Gomez has 99m followers, and was the most followed person on Instagram in 2016. This doesn't mean however, that Gomez is most successful singer real life. As has been acknowledged recently, singers such as Adele, Beyonce - and even Rihanna are all more successful than Gomez in real life, despite having an online presence which is as less strong as her's.

The same was true of Milo until he ended up on the news after the college protest, then all of a sudden his book jumped the No.1 political book bought in the USA, in the Top 50 of ALL books bought in the USA, so that worked out well. Protest against the alt-right and boom everyone is reading their books.

Protests against Milo were not exclusively online. As you have just said, the activities of those at Berkley university ended up on TV news networks across the US, and thus who Milo was would have been made clear to your average person. Whereas online protests/opposition meant Milo was just a fringe name. Also Milo's name is nowhere to be seen here: https://www.nytimes.com/books/best-sellers/hardcover-political-books/ Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Books-Politics/zgbs/books/11079

Sitting there at No1 and No 47 in mine right now.

AlsoIndigo said:

The_Apocalypse said:

AlsoIndigo said:

The_Apocalypse said:

That strong online presence is not neccessarily reflective of awareness or success in real life can be seen on Instagram. Selena Gomez has 99m followers, and was the most followed person on Instagram in 2016. This doesn't mean however, that Gomez is most successful singer real life. As has been acknowledged recently, singers such as Adele, Beyonce - and even Rihanna are all more successful than Gomez in real life, despite having an online presence which is as less strong as her's.

The same was true of Milo until he ended up on the news after the college protest, then all of a sudden his book jumped the No.1 political book bought in the USA, in the Top 50 of ALL books bought in the USA, so that worked out well. Protest against the alt-right and boom everyone is reading their books.

Protests against Milo were not exclusively online. As you have just said, the activities of those at Berkley university ended up on TV news networks across the US, and thus who Milo was would have been made clear to your average person. Whereas online protests/opposition meant Milo was just a fringe name. Also Milo's name is nowhere to be seen here: https://www.nytimes.com/books/best-sellers/hardcover-political-books/ Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Books-Politics/zgbs/books/11079

Sitting there at No1 and No 47 in mine right now.

Looking at your link, it's number one on a specific subset of political.

rcs1000 said:

AlsoIndigo said:

The_Apocalypse said:

AlsoIndigo said:

The_Apocalypse said:

That strong online presence is not neccessarily reflective of awareness or success in real life can be seen on Instagram. Selena Gomez has 99m followers, and was the most followed person on Instagram in 2016. This doesn't mean however, that Gomez is most successful singer real life. As has been acknowledged recently, singers such as Adele, Beyonce - and even Rihanna are all more successful than Gomez in real life, despite having an online presence which is as less strong as her's.

The same was true of Milo until he ended up on the news after the college protest, then all of a sudden his book jumped the No.1 political book bought in the USA, in the Top 50 of ALL books bought in the USA, so that worked out well. Protest against the alt-right and boom everyone is reading their books.

Protests against Milo were not exclusively online. As you have just said, the activities of those at Berkley university ended up on TV news networks across the US, and thus who Milo was would have been made clear to your average person. Whereas online protests/opposition meant Milo was just a fringe name. Also Milo's name is nowhere to be seen here: https://www.nytimes.com/books/best-sellers/hardcover-political-books/ Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Books-Politics/zgbs/books/11079

Sitting there at No1 and No 47 in mine right now.

Looking at your link, it's number one on a specific subset of political.

Yes I just noticed that. Humor > Political

The Best Seller list is most odd though, Definitely 47 on mine. Possibly Amazon show different best seller lists to different people, I am not logged in on mine, so many geographically based ?

@Indigo, @The_Apocalypse

It's funny: Dangerous isn't in the top 60 sellers in "Politics", but is 47th for best selling book overall, two ahead of "The Legend of Zelda: Art and Artifacts"

rcs1000 said:

@Indigo, @The_Apocalypse

It's funny: Dangerous isn't in the top 60 sellers in "Politics", but is 47th for best selling book overall, two ahead of "The Legend of Zelda: Art and Artifacts"

I make it 26th in the Politics and Social Science category, which is the first level down as it were.