I'm really not all that sure. Nevertheless betway go 33-1 right now and I was able to get my full remaining balance of £3.96 on that; SkyBet restricted me to £2, Boyle £3.20 and Hills the princely sum of 61 pence.
An interesting test case possibly looming in Pendle . Lord Tony Greaves has reported local Conservatives to the police for possible breach of electoral law by treating local residents to a free meal whilst hearing speeches from a government minister , the local MP and local councillors . The Conservative defence to the accusation seems to be that as the local elections in May have not yet been called they have done nothing illegal .
Tony Greaves probably knows more about election law than virtually anyone in the country. He was a professional agent for the Liberal Party back in the day and then Organising Secretary of the Association of Liberal Councillors. In the Lords he has often spoken on local government and constitutional matters.
PB is long overdue a ‘guess the outcome’ quiz – If a sportsmen’s bet could be organised next week for Copeland and Stoke-on-Trent Central, it would be much appreciated.
Where SO is spot-on is that there is no serious appetite in the Republic for a reunion with the UK, and the economic consequences of Brexit are not going to change that, whatever the more fervent Brexiteers might think. Not the vast majority, but you get the odd one who thinks Britain's withdrawal from the EU not only makes Irexit more likely, but even a state reunion. The most bizarre place I've seen this prospect extolled was in an essay by Niall Ferguson - he may be a world-famous historian and I may be a nobody, but seriously, what a ****.
Who mentioned Ireland rejoining the rest of the British Isles? The issue is the importance of the EU to Ireland.
In a pre-Brexit world, 60% of imports come from the EU and 51% of exports go there. Most of it's trade is within the EU.
In a post-Brexit world, 36% of imports come from the EU and 38% of exports go there. Most of it's trade is beyond the EU perimeter fence.
The numbers speak for themselves in highlighting the diminished importance of the EU to Ireland post Brexit.
Where that leads, who knows? One thing is clear though, the Irish export more to the US of A than they do the fledgling, post-Brexit US of E.
I think there is quite a lot of transshipment through the UK to the rest of the EU, so I wouldn't necessarily believe those numbers.
I'd also point out the Irish are second only to the Dutch in their love for the Euro, with it managing something like +60 approval ratings. I simply can't see them sacrificing it.
Finally there is pride: the Irish will not want to have been seen to have been forced by the British to do something.
I suspect the coalition will be VVD + CDA + D66 + a couple of smaller guys. I can't see how the PVV gets a coalition together, to be honest.
(I'd also point out that in likelihood all the established parties are overstated by a seat or two, as there may be a couple of 'one man parties' that make the 0.66% cut, and which don't tend to be captured by the polls.)
Edit to add: the decline of the PVDA is remarkable.
Just on the Netherlands, it's worth noting that the PVV has tended to outperform its poll scores in real elections, so it might be worth thinking of them at the top end of the current 24-29 seat range.
To be honest, the real story here is of a confused old man wondering around not really in control of his actions. That he happened to be delivering UKIP leaflets while he was doing it is not really relevant. I'd hope that any UKIP party official that realised what the situation was would send him home, but there is a limit to how much control you can have in a voluntary organisation like a political party.
I wouldn't ever vote for UKIP myself, but we should be grateful to the people public spirited enough to put the hours in necessary for the rest of us to have a choice of candidate.
Mike .... that doorway picture of Nuttall in the blue dress isn't very flattering. Who knew he was the worlds foremost transvestite. Is there no end to the mans brilliance?
UKIP should turn this around and show how shabbily the local council are treating their voters by not providing public toilets for their convenience.
Just on the Netherlands, it's worth noting that the PVV has tended to outperform its poll scores in real elections, so it might be worth thinking of them at the top end of the current 24-29 seat range.
Isn't about time you changed your avatar from one world leader to the greatest man on earth - Saint Paul Nuttall of Stoke?
An interesting test case possibly looming in Pendle . Lord Tony Greaves has reported local Conservatives to the police for possible breach of electoral law by treating local residents to a free meal whilst hearing speeches from a government minister , the local MP and local councillors . The Conservative defence to the accusation seems to be that as the local elections in May have not yet been called ( bribery is OK - sorry my interpretation ) they have done nothing illegal .
While I would be the first to say that bribery and corruption should be fought against hard, I think that starting witch hunts on minor rule breaches is going to end up making everyone worse off in the end.
Save it for the important stuff.
You are saying that minor rule breaches in pursuit of the Asian vote by Conservatives are unimportant and OK then .
He's saying this is on a par with MPs of all colours writing to Commons authorities to complain about alleged and very minor rule breaches by their opposition. While technically correct, they come across as priggish jerks who would better saving their outrage for when something really matters.
Oh so you think Peter Golds in Tower Hamlets is a priggish jerk .
I think a sense of perspective and judgement is often helpful. It must be easy living in a world where there are no shades of grey.
Your shade of grey seems to vary depending whether the Conservatives are involved or not .
At 29th place, Breitbart is the third most-trafficked news site in America, second only to CNN and The New York Times. Its traffic has now overtaken that of outlets such as FOX News, The Huffington Post, and The Washington Post.
Responding to the news, Breitbart News editor-in-chief Alexander Marlow said that “to have surpassed the top sports website in the world and the top porn site is a staggering accomplishment. We have an amazing (virtual) newsroom filled with brave and talented people.”
Globally, Breitbart is only 74 places behind the Guardian!
Paul Joseph Watson has 500k followers on Twitter and 795k on YouTube - Fox has 504k
The whole power balance of engaged eyeballs is shifting, and dwarfing everyone is PewDiePie on 54m. And now he's irked and a friend to the internet Right. The WSJ made a stupid category here - others jumped aboard - with more to lose
Was PewDiePie even particularly politically active before this fiasco ? Last time I heard of him he was making 8 million quid a year making Minecraft videos. If someone has take a politically inactive person with maybe some questionable views and 54m followers and made him politically active and pissed off, that might be seen as a slight miscalculation!
Just on the Netherlands, it's worth noting that the PVV has tended to outperform its poll scores in real elections, so it might be worth thinking of them at the top end of the current 24-29 seat range.
Isn't about time you changed your avatar from one world leader to the greatest man on earth - Saint Paul Nuttall of Stoke?
I suspect the coalition will be VVD + CDA + D66 + a couple of smaller guys. I can't see how the PVV gets a coalition together, to be honest.
(I'd also point out that in likelihood all the established parties are overstated by a seat or two, as there may be a couple of 'one man parties' that make the 0.66% cut, and which don't tend to be captured by the polls.)
Edit to add: the decline of the PVDA is remarkable.
I don't see how including D66 works. Would it not be something like VVD, CDA, CU, with supply and confidence from PVV?
Mr. Indigo, fifteen million (unsure if that's pounds or dollars).
The 8m was a couple of years ago when he had about half the number of subscribers, so 15m dollars sounds about right. The key point here is he has 54m eyeballs watching him, and he is now engaged and pissed off, where as I dont believe he was either before.
Just on the Netherlands, it's worth noting that the PVV has tended to outperform its poll scores in real elections, so it might be worth thinking of them at the top end of the current 24-29 seat range.
Isn't about time you changed your avatar from one world leader to the greatest man on earth - Saint Paul Nuttall of Stoke?
He is still being reviewed by the devil's advocate. He never said he was already canonised.
Five steps to heaven.
Step one: Wait five years - or don't. Step two: Become a 'servant of God' Step three: Show proof of a life of 'heroic virtue' Step four: Verified miracles. Step five: Canonisation.
It should be said that having a significant presence online does not necessarily translate to being well known to the general public as a whole.
I think in this case that is wishful thinking, almost anyone that had a pre-teen or teen son a couple of years ago has heard of him, he was the main man for Minecraft videos. Let me put it this way, a whole load of people have heard of Casey Neistat, and he has about 11% of the subs of Pewdiepie. Not only that a load of people just subbed him to find out what he is all about, so now he is going to have a longer reach and get even richer!
It should be said that having a significant presence online does not necessarily translate to being well known to the general public as a whole.
I've got to admit that even though I spend a fair amount of time on t'net, and believed I was fairly well informed, I'd never heard of that pewpiedie geezer until Plato (I think!) posted a link yesterday!
It should be said that having a significant presence online does not necessarily translate to being well known to the general public as a whole.
I think in this case that is wishful thinking, almost anyone that had a pre-teen or teen son a couple of years ago has heard of him, he was the main man for Maincraft videos. Let me put it this way, a whole load of people have heard of Casey Neistat, and he has about 11% of the subs of Pewdiepie. Not only that a load of people just subbed him to find out what he is all about, so now he is going to have a longer reach and get even richer!
Not really. I've never heard of him until now and have spent a considerable amount of time on YT.
Not everyone is into gaming. I spent most of my teen years on YT watching make-up tutorials (and I still watch them).
To be honest, the real story here is of a confused old man wondering around not really in control of his actions. That he happened to be delivering UKIP leaflets while he was doing it is not really relevant. I'd hope that any UKIP party official that realised what the situation was would send him home, but there is a limit to how much control you can have in a voluntary organisation like a political party.
I wouldn't ever vote for UKIP myself, but we should be grateful to the people public spirited enough to put the hours in necessary for the rest of us to have a choice of candidate.
Finding somewhere to pee can be a problem when out for hours delivering leaflets.
Always try to find a place where you are not overlooked - or a front garden with an opposition poster in the window,.
It should be said that having a significant presence online does not necessarily translate to being well known to the general public as a whole.
Of course it has a name for such a phenomenom - being internet famous.
In his case his online presence is more than middling, it is massive, but outside gaming communities I doubt even his tens of millions of subscribers amount to much in the 'real' world, though there will be some ancillary vague awareness.
Though IIRC he had a cameo on South Park a few years back, which probably adds to it somewhat.
It should be said that having a significant presence online does not necessarily translate to being well known to the general public as a whole.
I think in this case that is wishful thinking, almost anyone that had a pre-teen or teen son a couple of years ago has heard of him, he was the main man for Maincraft videos. Let me put it this way, a whole load of people have heard of Casey Neistat, and he has about 11% of the subs of Pewdiepie. Not only that a load of people just subbed him to find out what he is all about, so now he is going to have a longer reach and get even richer!
Not really. I've never heard of him until now and have spent a considerable amount of time on YT.
Not everyone is into gaming. I spent most of my teen years on YT watching make-up tutorials (and I still watch them).
54 million people appear to be, or 3 times the number of people that follow say BBC News on Twitter, still I am sure you are right, its not important.
It should be said that having a significant presence online does not necessarily translate to being well known to the general public as a whole.
I've got to admit that even though I spend a fair amount of time on t'net, and believed I was fairly well informed, I'd never heard of that pewpiedie geezer until Plato (I think!) posted a link yesterday!
Me neither. The amount of people who had never heard of PewDiePie a week ago but have now decided he's a big player in the culture wars will soon be approaching the number of his YT subs.
Though IIRC he had a cameo on South Park a few years back, which probably adds to it somewhat.
And a whole load of fuss made about him on prime time news in the last couple of days. You think people might learn, the same thing promoted Milo from a largely unknown alt-right troll to the top of the Amazon best seller list in one day.
Just on the Netherlands, it's worth noting that the PVV has tended to outperform its poll scores in real elections, so it might be worth thinking of them at the top end of the current 24-29 seat range.
Isn't about time you changed your avatar from one world leader to the greatest man on earth - Saint Paul Nuttall of Stoke?
He is still being reviewed by the devil's advocate. He never said he was already canonised.
Five steps to heaven.
Step one: Wait five years - or don't. Step two: Become a 'servant of God' Step three: Show proof of a life of 'heroic virtue' Step four: Verified miracles. Step five: Canonisation.
It should be said that having a significant presence online does not necessarily translate to being well known to the general public as a whole.
I think in this case that is wishful thinking, almost anyone that had a pre-teen or teen son a couple of years ago has heard of him, he was the main man for Maincraft videos. Let me put it this way, a whole load of people have heard of Casey Neistat, and he has about 11% of the subs of Pewdiepie. Not only that a load of people just subbed him to find out what he is all about, so now he is going to have a longer reach and get even richer!
Not really. I've never heard of him until now and have spent a considerable amount of time on YT.
Not everyone is into gaming. I spent most of my teen years on YT watching make-up tutorials (and I still watch them).
54 million people appear to be, or 3 times the number of people that follow say BBC News on Twitter, still I am sure you are right, its not important.
I don't see how that refutes my whole point - which is that strong online presence does not necessarily translate into being well known in real life. No one is denying that PewDiePiew has a strong online presence. But the BBC, regardless of how many twitter followers it does or does not have is a global brand whose content practically all age groups would have been exposed to in some way. This is not neccesarily the case for PewDiePie.
Despite all the jocularity at Squadron Leader Nuttall's expense, I am wondering what the reaction here and elsewhere will be if Nuttall manages to eek out a win. The message would then be kipper bullshit artist wins over mainstream parties kitchen sink efforts. Oh dear
WRT higher wages for prison officers in London and the South East - why are there still prisons in London and the South East?
I think you have to be locked up near your family. There's something in the Prison Act along those lines from memory ... but others on here will know better.
That strong online presence is not neccessarily reflective of awareness or success in real life can be seen on Instagram. Selena Gomez has 99m followers, and was the most followed person on Instagram in 2016. This doesn't mean however, that Gomez is most successful singer real life. As has been acknowledged recently, singers such as Adele, Beyonce and even Rihanna are all more successful than Gomez in real life, despite having an online presence which is as less strong as her's.
Despite all the jocularity at Squadron Leader Nuttall's expense, I am wondering what the reaction here and elsewhere will be if Nuttall manages to eek out a win. The message would then be kipper bullshit artist wins over mainstream parties kitchen sink efforts. Oh dear
You're on a pedants' website, the reaction would be that you've spelt 'eke' incorrectly.
That strong online presence is not neccessarily reflective of awareness or success in real life can be seen on Instagram. Selena Gomez has 99m followers, and was the most followed person on Instagram in 2016. This doesn't mean however, that Gomez is most successful singer real life. As has been acknowledged recently, singers such as Adele, Beyonce - and even Rihanna are all more successful than Gomez in real life, despite having an online presence which is as less strong as her's.
The same was true of Milo until he ended up on the news after the college protest, then all of a sudden his book jumped the No.1 political book bought in the USA, in the Top 50 of ALL books bought in the USA, so that worked out well. Protest against the alt-right and boom everyone is reading their books.
Despite all the jocularity at Squadron Leader Nuttall's expense, I am wondering what the reaction here and elsewhere will be if Nuttall manages to eek out a win. The message would then be kipper bullshit artist wins over mainstream parties kitchen sink efforts. Oh dear
You're on a pedants' website, the reaction would be that you've spelt 'eke' incorrectly.
WRT higher wages for prison officers in London and the South East - why are there still prisons in London and the South East?
I think you have to be locked up near your family. There's something in the Prison Act along those lines from memory ... but others on here will know better.
Really? FFS.
Sell them off as housing, and build prisons/rivet factories where they need jobs oop North.
Despite all the jocularity at Squadron Leader Nuttall's expense, I am wondering what the reaction here and elsewhere will be if Nuttall manages to eek out a win. The message would then be kipper bullshit artist wins over mainstream parties kitchen sink efforts. Oh dear
You're on a pedants' website, the reaction would be that you've spelt 'eke' incorrectly.
Haha
The reaction would obviously be 'I backed Ukip as soon as I realised they were going to win'
That strong online presence is not neccessarily reflective of awareness or success in real life can be seen on Instagram. Selena Gomez has 99m followers, and was the most followed person on Instagram in 2016. This doesn't mean however, that Gomez is most successful singer real life. As has been acknowledged recently, singers such as Adele, Beyonce - and even Rihanna are all more successful than Gomez in real life, despite having an online presence which is as less strong as her's.
The same was true of Milo until he ended up on the news after the college protest, then all of a sudden his book jumped the No.1 political book bought in the USA, in the Top 50 of ALL books bought in the USA, so that worked out well. Protest against the alt-right and boom everyone is reading their books.
My copy is on order - looking forward to it! I hope it's not just a compendium of his speeches because I've watched all of those.
I am not sure if this has been posted on here before and I am not knowledgeable enough about the internet trends discussed to know how accurate it is, but this is a fascinating read about one possible source for Trump's widespread support.
That strong online presence is not neccessarily reflective of awareness or success in real life can be seen on Instagram. Selena Gomez has 99m followers, and was the most followed person on Instagram in 2016. This doesn't mean however, that Gomez is most successful singer real life. As has been acknowledged recently, singers such as Adele, Beyonce - and even Rihanna are all more successful than Gomez in real life, despite having an online presence which is as less strong as her's.
The same was true of Milo until he ended up on the news after the college protest, then all of a sudden his book jumped the No.1 political book bought in the USA, in the Top 50 of ALL books bought in the USA, so that worked out well. Protest against the alt-right and boom everyone is reading their books.
That strong online presence is not neccessarily reflective of awareness or success in real life can be seen on Instagram. Selena Gomez has 99m followers, and was the most followed person on Instagram in 2016. This doesn't mean however, that Gomez is most successful singer real life. As has been acknowledged recently, singers such as Adele, Beyonce - and even Rihanna are all more successful than Gomez in real life, despite having an online presence which is as less strong as her's.
The same was true of Milo until he ended up on the news after the college protest, then all of a sudden his book jumped the No.1 political book bought in the USA, in the Top 50 of ALL books bought in the USA, so that worked out well. Protest against the alt-right and boom everyone is reading their books.
@RobD The article is dated February 2nd - the screen shot appears to be from then, not now.
Yes, how is that in contention with this statement:
"The same was true of Milo until he ended up on the news after the college protest, then all of a sudden his book jumped the No.1 political book bought in the USA, in the Top 50 of ALL books bought in the USA, so that worked out well."
The riots were on the 2nd. His book went to the top of the list on the 2nd.
I am not sure if this has been posted on here before and I am not knowledgeable enough about the internet trends discussed to know how accurate it is, but this is a fascinating read about one possible source for Trump's widespread support.
@RobD The article is dated February 2nd - the screen shot appears to be from then, not now.
Yes, how is that in contention with this statement:
"The same was true of Milo until he ended up on the news after the college protest, then all of a sudden his book jumped the No.1 political book bought in the USA, in the Top 50 of ALL books bought in the USA, so that worked out well."
The riots were on the 2nd. His book went to the top of the list on the 2nd.
I know, my point is, is that Milo's not there anymore. The publicity he received was not enough to sustain his sales (at least seemingly in the top ten).
That strong online presence is not neccessarily reflective of awareness or success in real life can be seen on Instagram. Selena Gomez has 99m followers, and was the most followed person on Instagram in 2016. This doesn't mean however, that Gomez is most successful singer real life. As has been acknowledged recently, singers such as Adele, Beyonce - and even Rihanna are all more successful than Gomez in real life, despite having an online presence which is as less strong as her's.
The same was true of Milo until he ended up on the news after the college protest, then all of a sudden his book jumped the No.1 political book bought in the USA, in the Top 50 of ALL books bought in the USA, so that worked out well. Protest against the alt-right and boom everyone is reading their books.
It has been briefly number one on Amazon for all books, which is pretty good for a pre-order, and is currently number one in "Censorship and Politics", rather than the broader "Politics" topic.
That strong online presence is not neccessarily reflective of awareness or success in real life can be seen on Instagram. Selena Gomez has 99m followers, and was the most followed person on Instagram in 2016. This doesn't mean however, that Gomez is most successful singer real life. As has been acknowledged recently, singers such as Adele, Beyonce - and even Rihanna are all more successful than Gomez in real life, despite having an online presence which is as less strong as her's.
The same was true of Milo until he ended up on the news after the college protest, then all of a sudden his book jumped the No.1 political book bought in the USA, in the Top 50 of ALL books bought in the USA, so that worked out well. Protest against the alt-right and boom everyone is reading their books.
Milo's book has been successful; even very successful. But, if we're going to be honest, it's probably quite a lot less successful than the books published by one of PB's own.
That strong online presence is not neccessarily reflective of awareness or success in real life can be seen on Instagram. Selena Gomez has 99m followers, and was the most followed person on Instagram in 2016. This doesn't mean however, that Gomez is most successful singer real life. As has been acknowledged recently, singers such as Adele, Beyonce - and even Rihanna are all more successful than Gomez in real life, despite having an online presence which is as less strong as her's.
The same was true of Milo until he ended up on the news after the college protest, then all of a sudden his book jumped the No.1 political book bought in the USA, in the Top 50 of ALL books bought in the USA, so that worked out well. Protest against the alt-right and boom everyone is reading their books.
Milo's book has been successful; even very successful. But, if we're going to be honest, it's probably quite a lot less successful than the books published by one of PB's own.
@RobD The article is dated February 2nd - the screen shot appears to be from then, not now.
Yes, how is that in contention with this statement:
"The same was true of Milo until he ended up on the news after the college protest, then all of a sudden his book jumped the No.1 political book bought in the USA, in the Top 50 of ALL books bought in the USA, so that worked out well."
The riots were on the 2nd. His book went to the top of the list on the 2nd.
I know, my point is, is that Milo's not there anymore. The publicity he received was not enough to sustain his sales (at least seemingly in the top ten).
And I'm sure he would have been no where near the top spot if his name hadn't been plastered all over the media, which I think was Indigo's point.
After Kraft failed to meet its commitment on the Cadbury take over they were always going to get a kicking from MPs and thus ministers.
Kraft must have been misled by some investment bankers trying to earn a crust.
What would have been the competition grounds for MPs attempting to stop it?
Not on competition grounds but because Kraft did not live up to its assurances about their Cadbury takeover - using the new 'industrial strategy' as the parliamentary excuse.
@RobD The article is dated February 2nd - the screen shot appears to be from then, not now.
Yes, how is that in contention with this statement:
"The same was true of Milo until he ended up on the news after the college protest, then all of a sudden his book jumped the No.1 political book bought in the USA, in the Top 50 of ALL books bought in the USA, so that worked out well."
The riots were on the 2nd. His book went to the top of the list on the 2nd.
I know, my point is, is that Milo's not there anymore. The publicity he received was not enough to sustain his sales (at least seemingly in the top ten).
And I'm sure he would have been no where near the top spot if his name hadn't been plastered all over the media, which I think was Indigo's point.
I'm aware that Indigo's point: I acknowledge that point in my post to Indigo:
As you have just said, the activities of those at Berkley university ended up on TV news networks across the US, and thus who Milo was would have been made clear to your average person.
That strong online presence is not neccessarily reflective of awareness or success in real life can be seen on Instagram. Selena Gomez has 99m followers, and was the most followed person on Instagram in 2016. This doesn't mean however, that Gomez is most successful singer real life. As has been acknowledged recently, singers such as Adele, Beyonce - and even Rihanna are all more successful than Gomez in real life, despite having an online presence which is as less strong as her's.
The same was true of Milo until he ended up on the news after the college protest, then all of a sudden his book jumped the No.1 political book bought in the USA, in the Top 50 of ALL books bought in the USA, so that worked out well. Protest against the alt-right and boom everyone is reading their books.
Milo's book has been successful; even very successful. But, if we're going to be honest, it's probably quite a lot less successful than the books published by one of PB's own.
That strong online presence is not neccessarily reflective of awareness or success in real life can be seen on Instagram. Selena Gomez has 99m followers, and was the most followed person on Instagram in 2016. This doesn't mean however, that Gomez is most successful singer real life. As has been acknowledged recently, singers such as Adele, Beyonce - and even Rihanna are all more successful than Gomez in real life, despite having an online presence which is as less strong as her's.
The same was true of Milo until he ended up on the news after the college protest, then all of a sudden his book jumped the No.1 political book bought in the USA, in the Top 50 of ALL books bought in the USA, so that worked out well. Protest against the alt-right and boom everyone is reading their books.
Milo's book has been successful; even very successful. But, if we're going to be honest, it's probably quite a lot less successful than the books published by one of PB's own.
@RobD The article is dated February 2nd - the screen shot appears to be from then, not now.
Yes, how is that in contention with this statement:
"The same was true of Milo until he ended up on the news after the college protest, then all of a sudden his book jumped the No.1 political book bought in the USA, in the Top 50 of ALL books bought in the USA, so that worked out well."
The riots were on the 2nd. His book went to the top of the list on the 2nd.
I know, my point is, is that Milo's not there anymore. The publicity he received was not enough to sustain his sales (at least seemingly in the top ten).
And I'm sure he would have been no where near the top spot if his name hadn't been plastered all over the media, which I think was Indigo's point.
I'm aware that Indigo's point: I acknowledge that point in my post to Indigo:
As you have just said, the activities of those at Berkley university ended up on TV news networks across the US, and thus who Milo was would have been made clear to your average person.
Yeah, those protestors probably made his visit a hundred times more successful in his eyes. Gone are the days when you debate someone to convince people they are wrong, now you just shut down any form of debate.
It should be said that having a significant presence online does not necessarily translate to being well known to the general public as a whole.
I've got to admit that even though I spend a fair amount of time on t'net, and believed I was fairly well informed, I'd never heard of that pewpiedie geezer until Plato (I think!) posted a link yesterday!
Me neither. The amount of people who had never heard of PewDiePie a week ago but have now decided he's a big player in the culture wars will soon be approaching the number of his YT subs.
And a significantly larger number now have him on their 'ignore this twazzock' list.
That strong online presence is not neccessarily reflective of awareness or success in real life can be seen on Instagram. Selena Gomez has 99m followers, and was the most followed person on Instagram in 2016. This doesn't mean however, that Gomez is most successful singer real life. As has been acknowledged recently, singers such as Adele, Beyonce - and even Rihanna are all more successful than Gomez in real life, despite having an online presence which is as less strong as her's.
The same was true of Milo until he ended up on the news after the college protest, then all of a sudden his book jumped the No.1 political book bought in the USA, in the Top 50 of ALL books bought in the USA, so that worked out well. Protest against the alt-right and boom everyone is reading their books.
Milo's book has been successful; even very successful. But, if we're going to be honest, it's probably quite a lot less successful than the books published by one of PB's own.
That strong online presence is not neccessarily reflective of awareness or success in real life can be seen on Instagram. Selena Gomez has 99m followers, and was the most followed person on Instagram in 2016. This doesn't mean however, that Gomez is most successful singer real life. As has been acknowledged recently, singers such as Adele, Beyonce - and even Rihanna are all more successful than Gomez in real life, despite having an online presence which is as less strong as her's.
The same was true of Milo until he ended up on the news after the college protest, then all of a sudden his book jumped the No.1 political book bought in the USA, in the Top 50 of ALL books bought in the USA, so that worked out well. Protest against the alt-right and boom everyone is reading their books.
That strong online presence is not neccessarily reflective of awareness or success in real life can be seen on Instagram. Selena Gomez has 99m followers, and was the most followed person on Instagram in 2016. This doesn't mean however, that Gomez is most successful singer real life. As has been acknowledged recently, singers such as Adele, Beyonce - and even Rihanna are all more successful than Gomez in real life, despite having an online presence which is as less strong as her's.
The same was true of Milo until he ended up on the news after the college protest, then all of a sudden his book jumped the No.1 political book bought in the USA, in the Top 50 of ALL books bought in the USA, so that worked out well. Protest against the alt-right and boom everyone is reading their books.
I now can see your image, but the current bestseller list that I linked isn't showing Milo's book at #1 and #47. Maybe the page for Dangerous hasn't yet updated.
Edit: Just seen the reference to #47 is the top 100 books, in which case he probably is there.
That strong online presence is not neccessarily reflective of awareness or success in real life can be seen on Instagram. Selena Gomez has 99m followers, and was the most followed person on Instagram in 2016. This doesn't mean however, that Gomez is most successful singer real life. As has been acknowledged recently, singers such as Adele, Beyonce - and even Rihanna are all more successful than Gomez in real life, despite having an online presence which is as less strong as her's.
The same was true of Milo until he ended up on the news after the college protest, then all of a sudden his book jumped the No.1 political book bought in the USA, in the Top 50 of ALL books bought in the USA, so that worked out well. Protest against the alt-right and boom everyone is reading their books.
I now can see your image, but the current bestseller list that I linked isn't showing Milo's book at #1 and #47. Maybe the page for Dangerous hasn't yet updated.
That strong online presence is not neccessarily reflective of awareness or success in real life can be seen on Instagram. Selena Gomez has 99m followers, and was the most followed person on Instagram in 2016. This doesn't mean however, that Gomez is most successful singer real life. As has been acknowledged recently, singers such as Adele, Beyonce - and even Rihanna are all more successful than Gomez in real life, despite having an online presence which is as less strong as her's.
The same was true of Milo until he ended up on the news after the college protest, then all of a sudden his book jumped the No.1 political book bought in the USA, in the Top 50 of ALL books bought in the USA, so that worked out well. Protest against the alt-right and boom everyone is reading their books.
That strong online presence is not neccessarily reflective of awareness or success in real life can be seen on Instagram. Selena Gomez has 99m followers, and was the most followed person on Instagram in 2016. This doesn't mean however, that Gomez is most successful singer real life. As has been acknowledged recently, singers such as Adele, Beyonce - and even Rihanna are all more successful than Gomez in real life, despite having an online presence which is as less strong as her's.
The same was true of Milo until he ended up on the news after the college protest, then all of a sudden his book jumped the No.1 political book bought in the USA, in the Top 50 of ALL books bought in the USA, so that worked out well. Protest against the alt-right and boom everyone is reading their books.
Looking at your link, it's number one on a specific subset of political.
Yes I just noticed that. Humor > Political
The Best Seller list is most odd though, Definitely 47 on mine. Possibly Amazon show different best seller lists to different people, I am not logged in on mine, so many geographically based ?
Di Abbot on Sky this morning saying Labour might lose both by-elections. Extreme expectations management. if Labour did nothing they would win Stoke because UKIP and Tories are not up to it and Libs too far behind. Copeland is another story but the wind I'm getting from CCHQ is dying down. They've either given up or believe it is won already. WOuld be former.
It's funny: Dangerous isn't in the top 60 sellers in "Politics", but is 47th for best selling book overall, two ahead of "The Legend of Zelda: Art and Artifacts"
It's funny: Dangerous isn't in the top 60 sellers in "Politics", but is 47th for best selling book overall, two ahead of "The Legend of Zelda: Art and Artifacts"
I make it 26th in the Politics and Social Science category, which is the first level down as it were.
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Still clears out the Tory red and all..
PVV -1
VVD +1
GL +1
SP -1
He's got 54m subscribers. Not sure he needs help in the platform department.
PB is long overdue a ‘guess the outcome’ quiz – If a sportsmen’s bet could be organised next week for Copeland and Stoke-on-Trent Central, it would be much appreciated.
I'd also point out the Irish are second only to the Dutch in their love for the Euro, with it managing something like +60 approval ratings. I simply can't see them sacrificing it.
Finally there is pride: the Irish will not want to have been seen to have been forced by the British to do something.
(I'd also point out that in likelihood all the established parties are overstated by a seat or two, as there may be a couple of 'one man parties' that make the 0.66% cut, and which don't tend to be captured by the polls.)
Edit to add: the decline of the PVDA is remarkable.
I wouldn't ever vote for UKIP myself, but we should be grateful to the people public spirited enough to put the hours in necessary for the rest of us to have a choice of candidate.
I've reversed out of my Macron lay (a couple of days ago @2.58/6) and rebacked at 2.78/8.
http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/09/how-sweden-became-an-example-of-how-not-to-handle-immigration/
So a non league semi-final at Wembley !! ....
Five steps to heaven.
Step one: Wait five years - or don't. Step two: Become a 'servant of God' Step three: Show proof of a life of 'heroic virtue' Step four: Verified miracles. Step five: Canonisation.
Ms. Apocalypse, true, media (in the broad sense) is much more fragmented today than in the past.
Not everyone is into gaming. I spent most of my teen years on YT watching make-up tutorials (and I still watch them).
As is the final being one of those derbys... exciting!
Always try to find a place where you are not overlooked - or a front garden with an opposition poster in the window,.
Yay - Marmite is safe!
In his case his online presence is more than middling, it is massive, but outside gaming communities I doubt even his tens of millions of subscribers amount to much in the 'real' world, though there will be some ancillary vague awareness.
Though IIRC he had a cameo on South Park a few years back, which probably adds to it somewhat.
After Kraft failed to meet its commitment on the Cadbury take over they were always going to get a kicking from MPs and thus ministers.
Kraft must have been misled by some investment bankers trying to earn a crust.
The amount of people who had never heard of PewDiePie a week ago but have now decided he's a big player in the culture wars will soon be approaching the number of his YT subs.
Sell them off as housing, and build prisons/rivet factories where they need jobs oop North.
The reaction would obviously be 'I backed Ukip as soon as I realised they were going to win'
I hope it's not just a compendium of his speeches because I've watched all of those.
https://medium.com/@DaleBeran/4chan-the-skeleton-key-to-the-rise-of-trump-624e7cb798cb#.khaidnrpa
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/milos-upcoming-book-grabs-top-spot-on-amazons-best-seller-list_us_5894c8dfe4b09bd304bb3326
Not sure if we've discussed that before. [ducks, runs]
And on the hourly update linked here, Milo's name is also not there (but 1984 is): https://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-books-Amazon/zgbs/books
"The same was true of Milo until he ended up on the news after the college protest, then all of a sudden his book jumped the No.1 political book bought in the USA, in the Top 50 of ALL books bought in the USA, so that worked out well."
The riots were on the 2nd. His book went to the top of the list on the 2nd.
It has been briefly number one on Amazon for all books, which is pretty good for a pre-order, and is currently number one in "Censorship and Politics", rather than the broader "Politics" topic.
As you have just said, the activities of those at Berkley university ended up on TV news networks across the US, and thus who Milo was would have been made clear to your average person.
If it carries on like this, I wonder when Trump will turn on FOX.
Edit: Just seen the reference to #47 is the top 100 books, in which case he probably is there.
The Best Seller list is most odd though, Definitely 47 on mine. Possibly Amazon show different best seller lists to different people, I am not logged in on mine, so many geographically based ?
Thursday last week: Preston to Ormskirk
Friday: Moorthorpe to Church Fenton via Pontefract Baghill (rare service, only two round-trips a day!).
It's funny: Dangerous isn't in the top 60 sellers in "Politics", but is 47th for best selling book overall, two ahead of "The Legend of Zelda: Art and Artifacts"