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Cartoon by Helen Cochrane and Nicholas Leonard.

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  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,365
    Frost.
  • SimonStClareSimonStClare Posts: 7,976
    These cartoons by Helen Cochrane and Nicholas Leonard are piss poor.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    Aren't political cartoons supposed to be witty, amusing, thought provoking or some combination of all three?

    @TheScreamingEagles answer to your question is Tom Brown's in Eton.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 88,700
    Charles said:

    Aren't political cartoons supposed to be witty, amusing, thought provoking or some combination of all three?

    @TheScreamingEagles answer to your question is Tom Brown's in Eton.

    Steve Bell long career would suggest otherwise...
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 124,622
    Charles said:

    Aren't political cartoons supposed to be witty, amusing, thought provoking or some combination of all three?

    @TheScreamingEagles answer to your question is Tom Brown's in Eton.

    Cheers.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 56,491
    BRING BACK MARF :)
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 39,881
    SeanT said:

    As for the BAFTAs

    Let' em rend their haute couture garments, and gnash their expensive Hollywood teeth

    WE WON.

    Celebrity tears are a delight to witness.
  • TwistedFireStopperTwistedFireStopper Posts: 2,538
    I hope you ain't paying for these cartoons.
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 4,261
    Charles said:

    Aren't political cartoons supposed to be witty, amusing, thought provoking or some combination of all three?

    @TheScreamingEagles answer to your question is Tom Brown's in Eton.

    Apparently not. Marf explained to us a few years ago that for a political cartoon to make people laugh was a bit of a no-no.

    But I still prefer cartoons that do make me laugh.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 44,410
    Nicole Kidman looks very weird indeed
  • Beverley_CBeverley_C Posts: 6,256
    TOPPING said:

    Nicole Kidman looks very weird indeed

    It is meant to be Theresa May....
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    Theresa May is not that pretty!
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 56,491
    surbiton said:

    Theresa May is not that pretty!

    Male chauvinist pig!
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 23,070
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4fPexlWQAA8fi7.jpg:large
  • JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807
    Surely Jezza should be reflected back at her in the mirror
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 80,307
    edited February 2017
    Was Dev Patel the skinny lad in "Skins" :D ?

    He was ! Clearly lost his razor since then :p
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    AnneJGP said:

    Charles said:

    Aren't political cartoons supposed to be witty, amusing, thought provoking or some combination of all three?

    @TheScreamingEagles answer to your question is Tom Brown's in Eton.

    Apparently not. Marf explained to us a few years ago that for a political cartoon to make people laugh was a bit of a no-no.

    But I still prefer cartoons that do make me laugh.
    Witty or amusing would for me be a wry smile rather than laugh-inducing
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 124,622
    Pulpstar said:

    Was Dev Patel the skinny lad in "Skins" :D ?

    Yup, also the chap in Slumdog Millionaire
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 56,347
    The Mirror replies:

    "Boris...."
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 56,491
    Beverley_C said:

    FPT

    Yes, thanks, enjoyed my jaunt in the northwest - and Leeds and Skipton :)

  • GoupillonGoupillon Posts: 79
    Voodoo poll in Whitehaven News currently has LD candidate in Copeland Rebecca Hanson on 42.5% after 480 votes cast. Both Conservative and Labour candidates on about 17% and UKIP nowhere.

    http://www.whitehavennews.co.uk/home?p_p_id=Voting_WAR_portalsuite_INSTANCE_vo0iQWfFWj2S&p_p_lifecycle=1&p_p_state=normal&p_p_mode=view&p_p_col_id=column-2&p_p_col_count=2&_Voting_WAR_portalsuite_INSTANCE_vo0iQWfFWj2S_javax.portlet.action=doVote&_Voting_WAR_portalsuite_INSTANCE_vo0iQWfFWj2S_arg_voting_uuid=bbf166dc-7f9e-4eaf-b451-1bac9195a637
  • JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807
    bigjohnowls said:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4fPexlWQAA8fi7.jpg:large

    Be interesting to hear from the kippers on here, what they think about this
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 56,491
    Goupillon said:

    Voodoo poll in Whitehaven News currently has LD candidate in Copeland Rebecca Hanson on 42.5% after 480 votes cast. Both Conservative and Labour candidates on about 17% and UKIP nowhere.

    Did you hear about the psephologist from Warsaw wot went to live in Haiti?

    He became a Voodoo Pole!

    :)
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 80,307
    edited February 2017
    Goupillon said:

    Voodoo poll in Whitehaven News currently has LD candidate in Copeland Rebecca Hanson on 42.5% after 480 votes cast. Both Conservative and Labour candidates on about 17% and UKIP nowhere.

    http://www.whitehavennews.co.uk/home?p_p_id=Voting_WAR_portalsuite_INSTANCE_vo0iQWfFWj2S&p_p_lifecycle=1&p_p_state=normal&p_p_mode=view&p_p_col_id=column-2&p_p_col_count=2&_Voting_WAR_portalsuite_INSTANCE_vo0iQWfFWj2S_javax.portlet.action=doVote&_Voting_WAR_portalsuite_INSTANCE_vo0iQWfFWj2S_arg_voting_uuid=bbf166dc-7f9e-4eaf-b451-1bac9195a637

    There's no attempt to get anyone to the top of that poll by any political facebook group.
    Honestly.

    WINNING HERE
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 23,070
    Jobabob said:

    bigjohnowls said:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4fPexlWQAA8fi7.jpg:large

    Be interesting to hear from the kippers on here, what they think about this
    Indeed. This has just been retweeted by Ukip's Immigration Spokesman and party treasurer
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 4,261
    Charles said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Charles said:

    Aren't political cartoons supposed to be witty, amusing, thought provoking or some combination of all three?

    @TheScreamingEagles answer to your question is Tom Brown's in Eton.

    Apparently not. Marf explained to us a few years ago that for a political cartoon to make people laugh was a bit of a no-no.

    But I still prefer cartoons that do make me laugh.
    Witty or amusing would for me be a wry smile rather than laugh-inducing
    True.
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    Goupillon said:

    Voodoo poll in Whitehaven News currently has LD candidate in Copeland Rebecca Hanson on 42.5% after 480 votes cast. Both Conservative and Labour candidates on about 17% and UKIP nowhere.

    http://www.whitehavennews.co.uk/home?p_p_id=Voting_WAR_portalsuite_INSTANCE_vo0iQWfFWj2S&p_p_lifecycle=1&p_p_state=normal&p_p_mode=view&p_p_col_id=column-2&p_p_col_count=2&_Voting_WAR_portalsuite_INSTANCE_vo0iQWfFWj2S_javax.portlet.action=doVote&_Voting_WAR_portalsuite_INSTANCE_vo0iQWfFWj2S_arg_voting_uuid=bbf166dc-7f9e-4eaf-b451-1bac9195a637

    Why should I be surprised ?
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 23,070
    Peter Oborne
    ‏@OborneTweets

    Horribly reminiscent of notorious racist Smethwick by-election in 1964
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 23,070
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Goupillon said:

    Voodoo poll in Whitehaven News currently has LD candidate in Copeland Rebecca Hanson on 42.5% after 480 votes cast. Both Conservative and Labour candidates on about 17% and UKIP nowhere.

    Did you hear about the psephologist from Warsaw wot went to live in Haiti?

    He became a Voodoo Pole!

    :)
    Should be odds on surely
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,359
    A low blow, how far it shifts votes remains to be seen.
  • PClippPClipp Posts: 2,138
    MarqueeMark said:

    The Mirror replies:

    "Boris...."

    Wicked, Mr Mark!!!
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 131,298
    Goupillon said:

    Voodoo poll in Whitehaven News currently has LD candidate in Copeland Rebecca Hanson on 42.5% after 480 votes cast. Both Conservative and Labour candidates on about 17% and UKIP nowhere.

    http://www.whitehavennews.co.uk/home?p_p_id=Voting_WAR_portalsuite_INSTANCE_vo0iQWfFWj2S&p_p_lifecycle=1&p_p_state=normal&p_p_mode=view&p_p_col_id=column-2&p_p_col_count=2&_Voting_WAR_portalsuite_INSTANCE_vo0iQWfFWj2S_javax.portlet.action=doVote&_Voting_WAR_portalsuite_INSTANCE_vo0iQWfFWj2S_arg_voting_uuid=bbf166dc-7f9e-4eaf-b451-1bac9195a637

    Having phoned in Copeland 3 times already I can definitely say it will be between the Tories and Labour, UKIP probably still third and almost as many Greens and Independent voters as LDs
  • PClippPClipp Posts: 2,138
    Goupillon said:

    Voodoo poll in Whitehaven News currently has LD candidate in Copeland Rebecca Hanson on 42.5% after 480 votes cast. Both Conservative and Labour candidates on about 17% and UKIP nowhere.

    http://www.whitehavennews.co.uk/home?p_p_id=Voting_WAR_portalsuite_INSTANCE_vo0iQWfFWj2S&p_p_lifecycle=1&p_p_state=normal&p_p_mode=view&p_p_col_id=column-2&p_p_col_count=2&_Voting_WAR_portalsuite_INSTANCE_vo0iQWfFWj2S_javax.portlet.action=doVote&_Voting_WAR_portalsuite_INSTANCE_vo0iQWfFWj2S_arg_voting_uuid=bbf166dc-7f9e-4eaf-b451-1bac9195a637

    Just goes to show that neither Labour nor the Tories are really trying in Copeland, and UKIP even less than them!
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 68,080
    PClipp said:

    Goupillon said:

    Voodoo poll in Whitehaven News currently has LD candidate in Copeland Rebecca Hanson on 42.5% after 480 votes cast. Both Conservative and Labour candidates on about 17% and UKIP nowhere.

    http://www.whitehavennews.co.uk/home?p_p_id=Voting_WAR_portalsuite_INSTANCE_vo0iQWfFWj2S&p_p_lifecycle=1&p_p_state=normal&p_p_mode=view&p_p_col_id=column-2&p_p_col_count=2&_Voting_WAR_portalsuite_INSTANCE_vo0iQWfFWj2S_javax.portlet.action=doVote&_Voting_WAR_portalsuite_INSTANCE_vo0iQWfFWj2S_arg_voting_uuid=bbf166dc-7f9e-4eaf-b451-1bac9195a637

    Just goes to show that neither Labour nor the Tories are really trying in Copeland, and UKIP even less than them!
    Theresa May visiting this week
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 131,298
    PClipp said:

    Goupillon said:

    Voodoo poll in Whitehaven News currently has LD candidate in Copeland Rebecca Hanson on 42.5% after 480 votes cast. Both Conservative and Labour candidates on about 17% and UKIP nowhere.

    http://www.whitehavennews.co.uk/home?p_p_id=Voting_WAR_portalsuite_INSTANCE_vo0iQWfFWj2S&p_p_lifecycle=1&p_p_state=normal&p_p_mode=view&p_p_col_id=column-2&p_p_col_count=2&_Voting_WAR_portalsuite_INSTANCE_vo0iQWfFWj2S_javax.portlet.action=doVote&_Voting_WAR_portalsuite_INSTANCE_vo0iQWfFWj2S_arg_voting_uuid=bbf166dc-7f9e-4eaf-b451-1bac9195a637

    Just goes to show that neither Labour nor the Tories are really trying in Copeland, and UKIP even less than them!
    The Tories have a phonebank at CCHQ now open 7 days a week and regional banks too, lots of Tory activists have been to Copeland and Labour is also sending a number of activists there too, although not quite as many as Stoke. UKIP are not really bothering but focusing on Stoke and I believe the LD phonebank is focusing on the latter too
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    bigjohnowls said:

    Jobabob said:

    bigjohnowls said:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4fPexlWQAA8fi7.jpg:large

    Be interesting to hear from the kippers on here, what they think about this
    Indeed. This has just been retweeted by Ukip's Immigration Spokesman and party treasurer
    Ugly cartoon, both visually and in sentiment
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 56,347
    PClipp said:

    Goupillon said:

    Voodoo poll in Whitehaven News currently has LD candidate in Copeland Rebecca Hanson on 42.5% after 480 votes cast. Both Conservative and Labour candidates on about 17% and UKIP nowhere.

    http://www.whitehavennews.co.uk/home?p_p_id=Voting_WAR_portalsuite_INSTANCE_vo0iQWfFWj2S&p_p_lifecycle=1&p_p_state=normal&p_p_mode=view&p_p_col_id=column-2&p_p_col_count=2&_Voting_WAR_portalsuite_INSTANCE_vo0iQWfFWj2S_javax.portlet.action=doVote&_Voting_WAR_portalsuite_INSTANCE_vo0iQWfFWj2S_arg_voting_uuid=bbf166dc-7f9e-4eaf-b451-1bac9195a637

    Just goes to show that neither Labour nor the Tories are really trying in Copeland, and UKIP even less than them!
    If the LibDems now don't win Copeland by 25%, it will be a T-E-R-R-I-B-L-E night for them....
  • EssexitEssexit Posts: 1,966
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Goupillon said:

    Voodoo poll in Whitehaven News currently has LD candidate in Copeland Rebecca Hanson on 42.5% after 480 votes cast. Both Conservative and Labour candidates on about 17% and UKIP nowhere.

    Did you hear about the psephologist from Warsaw wot went to live in Haiti?

    He became a Voodoo Pole!

    :)
    XD
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    Bafta's like a bloody wake,wonder why ;-)
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 30,904
    Jobabob said:

    bigjohnowls said:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4fPexlWQAA8fi7.jpg:large

    Be interesting to hear from the kippers on here, what they think about this
    Tumbleweed after half an hour.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 56,347
    Penelope Cruz looking like she's wearing Donald Trump's curtains....
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 131,298
    SeanT said:

    As for the BAFTAs

    Let' em rend their haute couture garments, and gnash their expensive Hollywood teeth

    WE WON.

    Director of Manchester by the Sea 'Out of every tragedy something good can happen. the morning after the presidential election my daughter woke up in tears but she has since been to 5 protest marches and I am so proud of her!' Peak snowflake?
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 80,307
    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    As for the BAFTAs

    Let' em rend their haute couture garments, and gnash their expensive Hollywood teeth

    WE WON.

    Director of Manchester by the Sea 'Out of every tragedy something good can happen. the morning after the presidential election my daughter woke up in tears but she has since been to 5 protest marches and I am so proud of her!' Peak snowflake?
    I frequently visit Manchester, and I can without doubt say I've never been near the sea there.
  • glwglw Posts: 10,570
    edited February 2017
    Tykejohnno said:

    Bafta's like a bloody wake,wonder why ;-)

    I don't bother watching award shows, what's the point? But this year's Oscars might be worthing tuning in for.
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 22,108
    edited February 2017
    Charles said:

    bigjohnowls said:

    Jobabob said:

    bigjohnowls said:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4fPexlWQAA8fi7.jpg:large

    Be interesting to hear from the kippers on here, what they think about this
    Indeed. This has just been retweeted by Ukip's Immigration Spokesman and party treasurer
    Ugly cartoon, both visually and in sentiment
    Edit. Wrong cartoon. Agreed. Terrible stuff from UKIP.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 131,298
    Pulpstar said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    As for the BAFTAs

    Let' em rend their haute couture garments, and gnash their expensive Hollywood teeth

    WE WON.

    Director of Manchester by the Sea 'Out of every tragedy something good can happen. the morning after the presidential election my daughter woke up in tears but she has since been to 5 protest marches and I am so proud of her!' Peak snowflake?
    I frequently visit Manchester, and I can without doubt say I've never been near the sea there.
    Believe this one is in Massachusetts
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 56,491
    Pulpstar said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    As for the BAFTAs

    Let' em rend their haute couture garments, and gnash their expensive Hollywood teeth

    WE WON.

    Director of Manchester by the Sea 'Out of every tragedy something good can happen. the morning after the presidential election my daughter woke up in tears but she has since been to 5 protest marches and I am so proud of her!' Peak snowflake?
    I frequently visit Manchester, and I can without doubt say I've never been near the sea there.
    I took the train from Manchester Victoria to Southport on Friday - um, does that count? :)
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,822
    Evening all.

    They're not seriously pushing Ms Long-Bailey as Corbyn's successor, are they?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 131,298
    Tykejohnno said:

    Bafta's like a bloody wake,wonder why ;-)

    Plenty of Trump, Brexit and UK government bashing so far
  • RealAleDrinkerRealAleDrinker Posts: 31
    Richard_Nabavi said:

    Evening all.

    They're not seriously pushing Ms Long-Bailey as Corbyn's successor, are they?

    I think it's a ploy by the right of the party as they know the membership will never elect a woman as leader!
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 124,622
    Pulpstar said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    As for the BAFTAs

    Let' em rend their haute couture garments, and gnash their expensive Hollywood teeth

    WE WON.

    Director of Manchester by the Sea 'Out of every tragedy something good can happen. the morning after the presidential election my daughter woke up in tears but she has since been to 5 protest marches and I am so proud of her!' Peak snowflake?
    I frequently visit Manchester, and I can without doubt say I've never been near the sea there.
    It's the Manchester in Essex County, Essex County Massachusetts.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 124,622
    Richard_Nabavi said:

    Evening all.

    They're not seriously pushing Ms Long-Bailey as Corbyn's successor, are they?

    They are.

    And Angela Raynor as well John McDonnell.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 30,904
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Pulpstar said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    As for the BAFTAs

    Let' em rend their haute couture garments, and gnash their expensive Hollywood teeth

    WE WON.

    Director of Manchester by the Sea 'Out of every tragedy something good can happen. the morning after the presidential election my daughter woke up in tears but she has since been to 5 protest marches and I am so proud of her!' Peak snowflake?
    I frequently visit Manchester, and I can without doubt say I've never been near the sea there.
    I took the train from Manchester Victoria to Southport on Friday - um, does that count? :)
    How lucky you are to pass through Daisy Hill, Hindley, Ince and Wigan Wallgate. My old stomping ground! Hope you had fun!
  • EssexitEssexit Posts: 1,966
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Pulpstar said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    As for the BAFTAs

    Let' em rend their haute couture garments, and gnash their expensive Hollywood teeth

    WE WON.

    Director of Manchester by the Sea 'Out of every tragedy something good can happen. the morning after the presidential election my daughter woke up in tears but she has since been to 5 protest marches and I am so proud of her!' Peak snowflake?
    I frequently visit Manchester, and I can without doubt say I've never been near the sea there.
    It's the Manchester in Essex County, Essex County Massachusetts.
    Wrong, there's no Manchester here ;)
  • Ishmael_ZIshmael_Z Posts: 8,981
    Pulpstar said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    As for the BAFTAs

    Let' em rend their haute couture garments, and gnash their expensive Hollywood teeth

    WE WON.

    Director of Manchester by the Sea 'Out of every tragedy something good can happen. the morning after the presidential election my daughter woke up in tears but she has since been to 5 protest marches and I am so proud of her!' Peak snowflake?
    I frequently visit Manchester, and I can without doubt say I've never been near the sea there.
    Manchester, Mass. With ours, it's 36 miles down the ship canal.
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,822
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Richard_Nabavi said:

    Evening all.

    They're not seriously pushing Ms Long-Bailey as Corbyn's successor, are they?

    They are.

    And Angela Raynor as well John McDonnell.
    Well, as I wrote the other day, there's no leader so bad that you can't, if you really work at it, find one who's worse.
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 22,108
    Richard_Nabavi said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Richard_Nabavi said:

    Evening all.

    They're not seriously pushing Ms Long-Bailey as Corbyn's successor, are they?

    They are.

    And Angela Raynor as well John McDonnell.
    Well, as I wrote the other day, there's no leader so bad that you can't, if you really work at it, find one who's worse.
    We now look back at Ed's golden era. Who knows we might look back those good old Corbyn days.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 80,307
    Richard_Nabavi said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Richard_Nabavi said:

    Evening all.

    They're not seriously pushing Ms Long-Bailey as Corbyn's successor, are they?

    They are.

    And Angela Raynor as well John McDonnell.
    Well, as I wrote the other day, there's no leader so bad that you can't, if you really work at it, find one who's worse.
    Fortunately for Labour they dodged the Owen Smith bullet.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 124,622
    Richard_Nabavi said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Richard_Nabavi said:

    Evening all.

    They're not seriously pushing Ms Long-Bailey as Corbyn's successor, are they?

    They are.

    And Angela Raynor as well John McDonnell.
    Well, as I wrote the other day, there's no leader so bad that you can't, if you really work at it, find one who's worse.
    Richard Burgon should be Corbyn's replacement.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 88,700
    edited February 2017
    Manchester by sea...Is that the sequel to the road to Wigan pier?
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    bigjohnowls said:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4fPexlWQAA8fi7.jpg:large

    Why not just ignore this person, like we would have done 15 years ago?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 124,622
    edited February 2017
    AndyJS said:

    bigjohnowls said:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4fPexlWQAA8fi7.jpg:large

    Why not just ignore this person, like we would have done 15 years ago?
    Because it retweeted by a senior UKIP, their treasurer I believe, and regular parliamentary candidate.
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    HYUFD said:

    Tykejohnno said:

    Bafta's like a bloody wake,wonder why ;-)

    Plenty of Trump, Brexit and UK government bashing so far
    This is why I loved ricky Gervais doing these award shows,he showed how out of touch these people were.
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,822
    Pulpstar said:

    Richard_Nabavi said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Richard_Nabavi said:

    Evening all.

    They're not seriously pushing Ms Long-Bailey as Corbyn's successor, are they?

    They are.

    And Angela Raynor as well John McDonnell.
    Well, as I wrote the other day, there's no leader so bad that you can't, if you really work at it, find one who's worse.
    Fortunately for Labour they dodged the Owen Smith bullet.
    True, they should be thankful for that.
  • JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807
    Richard_Nabavi said:

    Evening all.

    They're not seriously pushing Ms Long-Bailey as Corbyn's successor, are they?

    My intel is that it she is the product of a Labour staffer's overactive sense of humour.
  • EssexitEssexit Posts: 1,966
    Emma Stone, mate, Zombieland was good but no-one gives a toss about your take on politics.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 131,298
    Even La La Land 'At times of such division in both our countries and across the world I am glad we can bring people together'
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 124,622
    Essexit said:

    Emma Stone, mate, Zombieland was good but no-one gives a toss about your take on politics.

    That's a future member of my harem and potential wife you're talking about.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 56,491
    edited February 2017
    dixiedean said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Pulpstar said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    As for the BAFTAs

    Let' em rend their haute couture garments, and gnash their expensive Hollywood teeth

    WE WON.

    Director of Manchester by the Sea 'Out of every tragedy something good can happen. the morning after the presidential election my daughter woke up in tears but she has since been to 5 protest marches and I am so proud of her!' Peak snowflake?
    I frequently visit Manchester, and I can without doubt say I've never been near the sea there.
    I took the train from Manchester Victoria to Southport on Friday - um, does that count? :)
    How lucky you are to pass through Daisy Hill, Hindley, Ince and Wigan Wallgate. My old stomping ground! Hope you had fun!
    I even went on the Southport pier, but sadly the battery-electric tram was withdrawn in 2015! I changed trains at Wallgate to fit in the KirKby branch (first visited Kirkby via the Merseyrail route in December).
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 30,904
    edited February 2017


    This is why I loved ricky Gervais doing these award shows,he showed how out of touch these people were.

    Ricky Gervais can be irritating, but at his best he is genuinely subversive. (In the true sense of the word ie, to turn from below).
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 56,347
    Jobabob said:

    Richard_Nabavi said:

    Evening all.

    They're not seriously pushing Ms Long-Bailey as Corbyn's successor, are they?

    My intel is that it she is the product of a Labour staffer's overactive sense of humour.
    We should be looking for whoever pushed the idea of the Ed Stone. Similar warped sense of humour at work.
  • glwglw Posts: 10,570
    Richard_Nabavi said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Richard_Nabavi said:

    Evening all.

    They're not seriously pushing Ms Long-Bailey as Corbyn's successor, are they?

    They are.

    And Angela Raynor as well John McDonnell.
    Well, as I wrote the other day, there's no leader so bad that you can't, if you really work at it, find one who's worse.
    It is striking just how bare the Labour cupboard is now. If Blair had fallen under the wheels of a bus, you had Brown, Cook, Cunningham, Darling, Straw, Mowlam, Beckett, Blunkett, Dobson and more. Even if you didn't agree with them, they were serious political players who had a degree of plausibility as potential leaders. Nowadays Labour has to pick from a bunch of crackpots, halfwits, and novices.
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    HYUFD said:

    Even La La Land 'At times of such division in both our countries and across the world I am glad we can bring people together'

    Who gives a shit - should be the answer to her,lol
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 124,622
    MarqueeMark said:

    Jobabob said:

    Richard_Nabavi said:

    Evening all.

    They're not seriously pushing Ms Long-Bailey as Corbyn's successor, are they?

    My intel is that it she is the product of a Labour staffer's overactive sense of humour.
    We should be looking for whoever pushed the idea of the Ed Stone. Similar warped sense of humour at work.
    That was Torsten Bell
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 131,298
    Tykejohnno said:

    HYUFD said:

    Even La La Land 'At times of such division in both our countries and across the world I am glad we can bring people together'

    Who gives a shit - should be the answer to her,lol
    I would imagine the viewing public rather less so than the luvvies in the audience, yes
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 56,491
    Essexit said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Pulpstar said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    As for the BAFTAs

    Let' em rend their haute couture garments, and gnash their expensive Hollywood teeth

    WE WON.

    Director of Manchester by the Sea 'Out of every tragedy something good can happen. the morning after the presidential election my daughter woke up in tears but she has since been to 5 protest marches and I am so proud of her!' Peak snowflake?
    I frequently visit Manchester, and I can without doubt say I've never been near the sea there.
    It's the Manchester in Essex County, Essex County Massachusetts.
    Wrong, there's no Manchester here ;)
    We've got Southend, Clacton, Frinton and Walton :)
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 22,108
    glw said:

    Richard_Nabavi said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Richard_Nabavi said:

    Evening all.

    They're not seriously pushing Ms Long-Bailey as Corbyn's successor, are they?

    They are.

    And Angela Raynor as well John McDonnell.
    Well, as I wrote the other day, there's no leader so bad that you can't, if you really work at it, find one who's worse.
    It is striking just how bare the Labour cupboard is now. If Blair had fallen under the wheels of a bus, you had Brown, Cook, Cunningham, Darling, Straw, Mowlam, Beckett, Blunkett, Dobson and more. Even if you didn't agree with them, they were serious political players who had a degree of plausibility as potential leaders. Nowadays Labour has to pick from a bunch of crackpots, halfwits, and novices.
    Whereas the Tories have collusses such as Nicki Morgan and , near miss, Angela Leadsom.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 30,904
    glw said:

    Richard_Nabavi said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Richard_Nabavi said:

    Evening all.

    They're not seriously pushing Ms Long-Bailey as Corbyn's successor, are they?

    They are.

    And Angela Raynor as well John McDonnell.
    Well, as I wrote the other day, there's no leader so bad that you can't, if you really work at it, find one who's worse.
    It is striking just how bare the Labour cupboard is now. If Blair had fallen under the wheels of a bus, you had Brown, Cook, Cunningham, Darling, Straw, Mowlam, Beckett, Blunkett, Dobson and more. Even if you didn't agree with them, they were serious political players who had a degree of plausibility as potential leaders. Nowadays Labour has to pick from a bunch of crackpots, halfwits, and novices.
    Largely the result of parachuting in candidates. They never really had to fight a battle to be selected. cf Tory a-listers...Zac, McVey and Louise Bagshawe anyone? Fortunately for the Tories it didn't last too long.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 131,298
    edited February 2017
    Tykejohnno said:

    HYUFD said:

    Tykejohnno said:

    Bafta's like a bloody wake,wonder why ;-)

    Plenty of Trump, Brexit and UK government bashing so far
    This is why I loved ricky Gervais doing these award shows,he showed how out of touch these people were.
    Gervais is left/liberal but at least does not take himself too seriously. La La Land director on the other hand just now 'our language is unique and unites all of humanity in one artform'
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 56,347
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    Jobabob said:

    Richard_Nabavi said:

    Evening all.

    They're not seriously pushing Ms Long-Bailey as Corbyn's successor, are they?

    My intel is that it she is the product of a Labour staffer's overactive sense of humour.
    We should be looking for whoever pushed the idea of the Ed Stone. Similar warped sense of humour at work.
    That was Torsten Bell
    Have we seen the end of Torsten Bell?
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,822
    glw said:

    It is striking just how bare the Labour cupboard is now. If Blair had fallen under the wheels of a bus, you had Brown, Cook, Cunningham, Darling, Straw, Mowlam, Beckett, Blunkett, Dobson and more. Even if you didn't agree with them, they were serious political players who had a degree of plausibility as potential leaders. Nowadays Labour has to pick from a bunch of crackpots, halfwits, and novices.

    Not quite true. There are a number of perfectly plausible figures - Yvette Cooper, Keir Starmer, Hillary Benn, Chuka Ummuna, Stella Creasey, Rachel Reeves, not to mention Ed Balls and Sadiq Khan in the wings. The problem isn't that they have to pick from a bunch of crackpots, halfwits, and novices, it's that they want to pick from a bunch of crackpots, halfwits, and novices.
  • glwglw Posts: 10,570
    Jonathan said:

    Whereas the Tories have collusses such as Nicki Morgan and , near miss, Angela Leadsom.

    Just because I didn't put the boot it it doesn't mean I think Tory ranks are overflowing with talent.

    My point though is that Labour in 1997 looked formidable, 20 years on it now looks like some kind of end of pier tribute act to a real political party.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 56,491
    MarqueeMark said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    Jobabob said:

    Richard_Nabavi said:

    Evening all.

    They're not seriously pushing Ms Long-Bailey as Corbyn's successor, are they?

    My intel is that it she is the product of a Labour staffer's overactive sense of humour.
    We should be looking for whoever pushed the idea of the Ed Stone. Similar warped sense of humour at work.
    That was Torsten Bell
    Have we seen the end of Torsten Bell?
    The bell end of Torsten?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 124,622
    MarqueeMark said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    Jobabob said:

    Richard_Nabavi said:

    Evening all.

    They're not seriously pushing Ms Long-Bailey as Corbyn's successor, are they?

    My intel is that it she is the product of a Labour staffer's overactive sense of humour.
    We should be looking for whoever pushed the idea of the Ed Stone. Similar warped sense of humour at work.
    That was Torsten Bell
    Have we seen the end of Torsten Bell?
    No.

    I heard the story of the genesis of the Ed Stone, next PB meet, and I'll share the story.
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 22,108
    edited February 2017
    glw said:

    Jonathan said:

    Whereas the Tories have collusses such as Nicki Morgan and , near miss, Angela Leadsom.

    Just because I didn't put the boot it it doesn't mean I think Tory ranks are overflowing with talent.

    My point though is that Labour in 1997 looked formidable, 20 years on it now looks like some kind of end of pier tribute act to a real political party.
    20 years is a long time. Things come, things go. It is the way of things and not worth worrying about. In 2037 things will be different again.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 26,538
    MarqueeMark said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    Jobabob said:

    Richard_Nabavi said:

    Evening all.

    They're not seriously pushing Ms Long-Bailey as Corbyn's successor, are they?

    My intel is that it she is the product of a Labour staffer's overactive sense of humour.
    We should be looking for whoever pushed the idea of the Ed Stone. Similar warped sense of humour at work.
    That was Torsten Bell
    Have we seen the end of Torsten Bell?
    Bell End?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 56,491
    Jonathan said:

    glw said:

    Richard_Nabavi said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Richard_Nabavi said:

    Evening all.

    They're not seriously pushing Ms Long-Bailey as Corbyn's successor, are they?

    They are.

    And Angela Raynor as well John McDonnell.
    Well, as I wrote the other day, there's no leader so bad that you can't, if you really work at it, find one who's worse.
    It is striking just how bare the Labour cupboard is now. If Blair had fallen under the wheels of a bus, you had Brown, Cook, Cunningham, Darling, Straw, Mowlam, Beckett, Blunkett, Dobson and more. Even if you didn't agree with them, they were serious political players who had a degree of plausibility as potential leaders. Nowadays Labour has to pick from a bunch of crackpots, halfwits, and novices.
    Whereas the Tories have collusses such as Nicki Morgan and , near miss, Angela Leadsom.
    Tories 330
    Labour 232

    :innocent:
  • EssexitEssexit Posts: 1,966
    glw said:

    Jonathan said:

    Whereas the Tories have collusses such as Nicki Morgan and , near miss, Angela Leadsom.

    Just because I didn't put the boot it it doesn't mean I think Tory ranks are overflowing with talent.

    My point though is that Labour in 1997 looked formidable, 20 years on it now looks like some kind of end of pier tribute act to a real political party.
    The Tory ranks aren't overflowing with talent but if Theresa went AWOL then Hammond, Fallon, and Javid are all broadly acceptable and serious successors.

    I'd add Patel, Johnson, and Gove to that list, others would add Osborne and maybe Rudd.
  • glwglw Posts: 10,570
    Richard_Nabavi said:

    Not quite true. There are a number of perfectly plausible figures - Yvette Cooper, Keir Starmer, Hillary Benn, Chuka Ummuna, Stella Creasey, Rachel Reeves, not to mention Ed Balls and Sadiq Khan in the wings. The problem isn't that they have to pick from a bunch of crackpots, halfwits, and novices, it's that they want to pick from a bunch of crackpots, halfwits, and novices.

    Out of those you name I only rate Benn, and as you point out he has little chance with the current Labour membership.
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 22,108
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Jonathan said:

    glw said:

    Richard_Nabavi said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Richard_Nabavi said:

    Evening all.

    They're not seriously pushing Ms Long-Bailey as Corbyn's successor, are they?

    They are.

    And Angela Raynor as well John McDonnell.
    Well, as I wrote the other day, there's no leader so bad that you can't, if you really work at it, find one who's worse.
    It is striking just how bare the Labour cupboard is now. If Blair had fallen under the wheels of a bus, you had Brown, Cook, Cunningham, Darling, Straw, Mowlam, Beckett, Blunkett, Dobson and more. Even if you didn't agree with them, they were serious political players who had a degree of plausibility as potential leaders. Nowadays Labour has to pick from a bunch of crackpots, halfwits, and novices.
    Whereas the Tories have collusses such as Nicki Morgan and , near miss, Angela Leadsom.
    Tories 330
    Labour 232

    :innocent:
    Labour still 30-60 seats more than Tories 97-10.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 56,347
    Jonathan said:

    glw said:

    Richard_Nabavi said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Richard_Nabavi said:

    Evening all.

    They're not seriously pushing Ms Long-Bailey as Corbyn's successor, are they?

    They are.

    And Angela Raynor as well John McDonnell.
    Well, as I wrote the other day, there's no leader so bad that you can't, if you really work at it, find one who's worse.
    It is striking just how bare the Labour cupboard is now. If Blair had fallen under the wheels of a bus, you had Brown, Cook, Cunningham, Darling, Straw, Mowlam, Beckett, Blunkett, Dobson and more. Even if you didn't agree with them, they were serious political players who had a degree of plausibility as potential leaders. Nowadays Labour has to pick from a bunch of crackpots, halfwits, and novices.
    Whereas the Tories have collusses such as Nicki Morgan and , near miss, Angela Leadsom.
    I think EVERYBODY except Nicki Morgan thought the idea of Nicki Morgan as, well, pretty much anything, was hilarious.

  • Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    Richard_Nabavi said:

    glw said:

    It is striking just how bare the Labour cupboard is now. If Blair had fallen under the wheels of a bus, you had Brown, Cook, Cunningham, Darling, Straw, Mowlam, Beckett, Blunkett, Dobson and more. Even if you didn't agree with them, they were serious political players who had a degree of plausibility as potential leaders. Nowadays Labour has to pick from a bunch of crackpots, halfwits, and novices.

    Not quite true. There are a number of perfectly plausible figures - Yvette Cooper, Keir Starmer, Hillary Benn, Chuka Ummuna, Stella Creasey, Rachel Reeves, not to mention Ed Balls and Sadiq Khan in the wings. The problem isn't that they have to pick from a bunch of crackpots, halfwits, and novices, it's that they want to pick from a bunch of crackpots, halfwits, and novices.
    I know you don't seriously believe Rachel Reeves, with her catalogue of car crash interviews in the run-up to the 2015 election, is a plausible leader.
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 22,108
    MarqueeMark said:

    Jonathan said:

    glw said:

    Richard_Nabavi said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Richard_Nabavi said:

    Evening all.

    They're not seriously pushing Ms Long-Bailey as Corbyn's successor, are they?

    They are.

    And Angela Raynor as well John McDonnell.
    Well, as I wrote the other day, there's no leader so bad that you can't, if you really work at it, find one who's worse.
    It is striking just how bare the Labour cupboard is now. If Blair had fallen under the wheels of a bus, you had Brown, Cook, Cunningham, Darling, Straw, Mowlam, Beckett, Blunkett, Dobson and more. Even if you didn't agree with them, they were serious political players who had a degree of plausibility as potential leaders. Nowadays Labour has to pick from a bunch of crackpots, halfwits, and novices.
    Whereas the Tories have collusses such as Nicki Morgan and , near miss, Angela Leadsom.
    I think EVERYBODY except Nicki Morgan thought the idea of Nicki Morgan as, well, pretty much anything, was hilarious.

    Can we not agree that top talent rarely enters politics. There's more fun, impact to be had elsewhere. And with none of the bullshit that goes with the public eye.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 30,904
    glw said:

    Richard_Nabavi said:

    Not quite true. There are a number of perfectly plausible figures - Yvette Cooper, Keir Starmer, Hillary Benn, Chuka Ummuna, Stella Creasey, Rachel Reeves, not to mention Ed Balls and Sadiq Khan in the wings. The problem isn't that they have to pick from a bunch of crackpots, halfwits, and novices, it's that they want to pick from a bunch of crackpots, halfwits, and novices.

    Out of those you name I only rate Benn, and as you point out he has little chance with the current Labour membership.
    Tbf he did say "plausible".
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 56,491
    dixiedean said:

    glw said:

    Richard_Nabavi said:

    Not quite true. There are a number of perfectly plausible figures - Yvette Cooper, Keir Starmer, Hillary Benn, Chuka Ummuna, Stella Creasey, Rachel Reeves, not to mention Ed Balls and Sadiq Khan in the wings. The problem isn't that they have to pick from a bunch of crackpots, halfwits, and novices, it's that they want to pick from a bunch of crackpots, halfwits, and novices.

    Out of those you name I only rate Benn, and as you point out he has little chance with the current Labour membership.
    Tbf he did say "plausible".
    Plausible Benn-iability?
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,822
    edited February 2017
    Danny565 said:

    I know you don't seriously believe Rachel Reeves, with her catalogue of car crash interviews in the run-up to the 2015 election, is a plausible leader.

    When the field includes Jeremy Corbyn and Rebecca Long-Bailey, she looks like a superstar!
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 56,347
    Jonathan said:

    Can we not agree that top talent rarely enters politics. There's more fun, impact to be had elsewhere. And with none of the bullshit that goes with the public eye.

    There are dozens of posters on here who we will look upon as the Best Prime Minister We Never Had.

    In their mind, at least...
  • EssexitEssexit Posts: 1,966
    Richard_Nabavi said:

    Danny565 said:

    I know you don't seriously believe Rachel Reeves, with her catalogue of car crash interviews in the run-up to the 2015 election, is a plausible leader.

    When the field includes Jeremy Corbyn and Rebecca Long-Bailey, she looks like a superstar!
    Reeves is definitely a credible figure. However I notice from her Wikipedia she's in Labour Friends of Israel, i.e. unelectable at the moment.
  • glwglw Posts: 10,570
    Jonathan said:

    Can we not agree that top talent rarely enters politics. There's more fun, impact to be had elsewhere. And with none of the bullshit that goes with the public eye.

    Was it different in the past? It seems that it was, but maybe I'm wrong. That politics isn't attracting high quality candidates is surely a very bad thing. I hope we don't go down the gobshite celebrity route like our American pals.
  • JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807
    MarqueeMark said:

    Jobabob said:

    Richard_Nabavi said:

    Evening all.

    They're not seriously pushing Ms Long-Bailey as Corbyn's successor, are they?

    My intel is that it she is the product of a Labour staffer's overactive sense of humour.
    We should be looking for whoever pushed the idea of the Ed Stone. Similar warped sense of humour at work.
    The warmest lead yet Mark.
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