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With just nine days to go till his inauguration Donald Trump has held a major press conference dealing with how his business interests will operate while he’s in the White House, the Mexican wall and who’ll pay for it, and, of course. the revelations in the past 24 hours about his alleged relationship with Russia and what is said to have gone on in that hotel room.
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1st like HR Clinton in the popular vote.0
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Wonder if CNN will even be invited to the White House press briefings.0
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It's not a sustainable strategy without a degree of popularity. He needs quick wins or he is going to find himself in trouble.0
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And like having a first on PB, it doesn't really count for much!The_Taxman said:1st like HR Clinton in the popular vote.
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Doesn't a dismissal imply that there is no plan to leave the single market? Otherwise why treat European countries differently?Tykejohnno said:Get up to date scott,the government have already dismissed this.
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We all should worry about a world trade war than trump with the media.SouthamObserver said:It's not a sustainable strategy without a degree of popularity. He needs quick wins or he is going to find himself in trouble.
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I wonder if some obscure part of the US security services will kill him off. He clearly cannot take the pressure of the job and he hasn't even started his Presidency yet! If / when one of the United States many enemies provoke him he could unleash Armageddon that engulfs all of humanity.0
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Taps mic....sniff sniff...
WRONNNNNNNNGFAKE NEWWWWS .0 -
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Well, watching that prezzer - which was quite a thing, I have to say - I did wonder how on earth we are going to get a favourable trade deal out of the US.Tykejohnno said:
We all should worry about a world trade war than trump with the media.SouthamObserver said:It's not a sustainable strategy without a degree of popularity. He needs quick wins or he is going to find himself in trouble.
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FAKE PB THREAD
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You mean 1st like LEAVE in the popular vote?The_Taxman said:1st like HR Clinton in the popular vote.
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Now that is an actual WTAF.isam said:He is going to feature on Songs of Praise!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08bb6rg0 -
Obama leaves on an approval rating of 55%SouthamObserver said:It's not a sustainable strategy without a degree of popularity. He needs quick wins or he is going to find himself in trouble.
he did bugger all0 -
The Crisis of the Third Century was interesting 0
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'At least it’s going to be interesting'
It’s going to be as entertaining as hell, - the press barons will not know what hit them. 0 -
What sort of trouble? He's in the job for four years barring an unprecedented outbreak of patriotism and honour replacing narrow partisanship from Republicans.SouthamObserver said:It's not a sustainable strategy without a degree of popularity. He needs quick wins or he is going to find himself in trouble.
In the meantime he can continue to market his steaks (note the product placement at today's launch) , get foreign dignitaries to overpay for rooms at his hotels and help out his buddy Putin.0 -
What can I say? Clearly the majority of Americans disagree.Alanbrooke said:
Obama leaves on an approval rating of 55%SouthamObserver said:It's not a sustainable strategy without a degree of popularity. He needs quick wins or he is going to find himself in trouble.
he did bugger all
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My guess is it's all part of Mays cards-to-the-chest strategy rather than an omen as important as that. I'll reiterate my view that we're being incredibly parochial on the Single Market issue. It's a club that requires any member to sign up to all the rules. We might very well want to stay in the Single Market, to which the EU27 response will be 'Fuck right off'.williamglenn said:
Doesn't a dismissal imply that there is no plan to leave the single market? Otherwise why treat European countries differently?Tykejohnno said:Get up to date scott,the government have already dismissed this.
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We won't. If we cannot get one with the rest of the EU, what are the chances with the US? Also, one has to look at what consumer demand prefers. I don't see British people changing their tastes to US wine, Cheese or some of the other products they make as they are inferior to the pallet. Likewise, who would have an American car when you could have a BMW or Merc.SouthamObserver said:
Well, watching that prezzer - which was quite a thing, I have to say - I did wonder how on earth we are going to get a favourable trade deal out of the US.Tykejohnno said:
We all should worry about a world trade war than trump with the media.SouthamObserver said:It's not a sustainable strategy without a degree of popularity. He needs quick wins or he is going to find himself in trouble.
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Yes, LEAVE did win. Just think how that £350 million a week is going to stave off the current NHS crisis.Sunil_Prasannan said:
You mean 1st like LEAVE in the popular vote?The_Taxman said:1st like HR Clinton in the popular vote.
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I note that sterling ended up against the USD with a huge swing the moment that the Trump freak show started. Waits to be told that this is all planned by Trump and that he's cleverer than all of us.0
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Thought Conservatives liked people who did bugger all.SouthamObserver said:
What can I say? Clearly the majority of Americans disagree.Alanbrooke said:
Obama leaves on an approval rating of 55%SouthamObserver said:It's not a sustainable strategy without a degree of popularity. He needs quick wins or he is going to find himself in trouble.
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he hasnt upset anyone since he hasnt done muchSouthamObserver said:
What can I say? Clearly the majority of Americans disagree.Alanbrooke said:
Obama leaves on an approval rating of 55%SouthamObserver said:It's not a sustainable strategy without a degree of popularity. He needs quick wins or he is going to find himself in trouble.
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BBC says its a spook quoting another spookAlastairMeeks said:0 -
The point is, as with all great hoaxes, even if it isn't true, it's wholly believable. You wouldn't be surprised if this was just the beginning.AlastairMeeks said:0 -
A favourable deal for us with the US involves much freer access to the US market for our services industries. Problem with that is that these are sectors in which the US is also very strong. Given we are 60 million and they are 350 million, there is little incentive for them to make life tougher for themselves because the reward (ie, much freer access to the UK market) is not exactly huge. And after what Trump said today about the Americans being far too soft in the past, the idea that we will get something *just because* is far-fetched, to say the least.The_Taxman said:
We won't. If we cannot get one with the rest of the EU, what are the chances with the US? Also, one has to look at what consumer demand prefers. I don't see British people changing their tastes to US wine, Cheese or some of the other products they make as they are inferior to the pallet. Likewise, who would have an American car when you could have a BMW or Merc.SouthamObserver said:
Well, watching that prezzer - which was quite a thing, I have to say - I did wonder how on earth we are going to get a favourable trade deal out of the US.Tykejohnno said:
We all should worry about a world trade war than trump with the media.SouthamObserver said:It's not a sustainable strategy without a degree of popularity. He needs quick wins or he is going to find himself in trouble.
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There is presumably not the faintest chance that a republican house and senate would even consider impeaching him, which means in reality videos could come out with footage of him playing golf with satan, and aside from knocking his already dire ratings a bit, make no practical difference.AlastairMeeks said:0 -
What does an approval rating mean for someone leaving office? I think it tells you what voters think of him as a person, not as a President, as he is no longer relevant in presidential terms.SouthamObserver said:
What can I say? Clearly the majority of Americans disagree.Alanbrooke said:
Obama leaves on an approval rating of 55%SouthamObserver said:It's not a sustainable strategy without a degree of popularity. He needs quick wins or he is going to find himself in trouble.
he did bugger all
I would hazard a guess that if Obama had four more years of governing ahead of him at this point, all else unchanged, his approval ratings would not be 55%0 -
Far fetched as this is going to sound, I don't believe it myself, but wouldn't it be something if, when we do leave, the PM thinks "Fuck it, I am going to give the NHS £350m a week for a while".. the blood would be on the hands of the filibusters!The_Taxman said:
Yes, LEAVE did win. Just think how that £350 million a week is going to stave off the current NHS crisis.Sunil_Prasannan said:
You mean 1st like LEAVE in the popular vote?The_Taxman said:1st like HR Clinton in the popular vote.
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Course it has legs. Will it do him any harm? How much lower can he go in terms of polling? When someone is so tarnished I don't think it makes that much difference as he will always have die hard support. If there is a sex tape I would not be surprised if Trump tried to sell it from one of his companies! The reasoning is if someone is going to make money out of it - it might as well be him!Scott_P said:@CJH_News: The BBC's Paul Wood, a respected foreign correspondent, says he has another source claiming multiple #Trump tapes exist. This story has legs
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Does anyone think there's actual tapes of Trump, that the Clinton machine didn't find during their research of the guy over the summer?AlastairMeeks said:0 -
Is that what the so called Liberals are striving for- the assassination of their President - because he doesn't conform to their ideas?The_Taxman said:I wonder if some obscure part of the US security services will kill him off. He clearly cannot take the pressure of the job and he hasn't even started his Presidency yet! If / when one of the United States many enemies provoke him he could unleash Armageddon that engulfs all of humanity.
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People falling over themselves to believe bad things about someone they don't like is not a great look.. especially if it is qualified by "even if it isn't true, it's wholly believable"matt said:
The point is, as with all great hoaxes, even if it isn't true, it's wholly believable. You wouldn't be surprised if this was just the beginning.AlastairMeeks said:
Sounds a bit Alf Garnett-ish to me
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Not sure about that. It will harm him in Congress and that could really hurt. If he becomes a complete liability to the GOP - or the Dems win in 2018 - he may not complete his four year term.The_Taxman said:
Course it has legs. Will it do him any harm? How much lower can he go in terms of polling? When someone is so tarnished I don't think it makes that much difference as he will always have die hard support. If there is a sex tape I would not be surprised if Trump tried to sell it from one of his companies! The reasoning is if someone is going to make money out of it - it might as well be him!Scott_P said:@CJH_News: The BBC's Paul Wood, a respected foreign correspondent, says he has another source claiming multiple #Trump tapes exist. This story has legs
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It is not just the palate. It is growth hormone in beef, chlorine blanched chicken and the rest of the delightful US practices in manufacturing food.The_Taxman said:
We won't. If we cannot get one with the rest of the EU, what are the chances with the US? Also, one has to look at what consumer demand prefers. I don't see British people changing their tastes to US wine, Cheese or some of the other products they make as they are inferior to the pallet. Likewise, who would have an American car when you could have a BMW or Merc.SouthamObserver said:
Well, watching that prezzer - which was quite a thing, I have to say - I did wonder how on earth we are going to get a favourable trade deal out of the US.Tykejohnno said:
We all should worry about a world trade war than trump with the media.SouthamObserver said:It's not a sustainable strategy without a degree of popularity. He needs quick wins or he is going to find himself in trouble.
It is also the ISDS court which makes the ECJ look the epitome of democratic justice.
In any trade agreement with the US, the US interests will completely dominate because of our relative sizes and US practices. It would make a total mockery of "Take Back Control".0 -
2016 was dominated by Leavers and Trumpets telling us that it wasn't what was true that was important, it was what they felt. They can hardly complain if in 2017 their opponents have the same impulses.isam said:
People falling over themselves to believe bad things about someone they don't like is not a great look.. especially if it is qualified by "even if it isn't true, it's wholly believable"matt said:
The point is, as with all great hoaxes, even if it isn't true, it's wholly believable. You wouldn't be surprised if this was just the beginning.AlastairMeeks said:
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Where do you get the idea he hasn't done much?Alanbrooke said:
he hasnt upset anyone since he hasnt done muchSouthamObserver said:
What can I say? Clearly the majority of Americans disagree.Alanbrooke said:
Obama leaves on an approval rating of 55%SouthamObserver said:It's not a sustainable strategy without a degree of popularity. He needs quick wins or he is going to find himself in trouble.
he did bugger all
You might not like it... But there's been a ton of stuff done.
Obamacare probably the biggest piece of legislation for a generation.
Enormous stimulus package.
Wall Street reform, ended Iraq war, killed bin Laden, saved GM, repealed don't ask don't tell, transformed student loans, Iran nuclear deal, appointed two supreme court judges, reopened relations with Cuba...0 -
I remember when the Washington Post launched an investigation into Trump and got a 25-year old tape of him pretending to be his own publicist, which he probably leaked to them himself. Then again, it's not as if the Clinton machine or the mainstream media have shown themselves to be particularly competent over the past year or so.Sandpit said:
Does anyone think there's actual tapes of Trump, that the Clinton machine didn't find during their research of the guy over the summer?AlastairMeeks said:
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Was it?AlastairMeeks said:
2016 was dominated by Leavers and Trumpets telling us that it wasn't what was true that was important, it was what they felt. They can hardly complain if in 2017 their opponents have the same impulses.isam said:
People falling over themselves to believe bad things about someone they don't like is not a great look.. especially if it is qualified by "even if it isn't true, it's wholly believable"matt said:
The point is, as with all great hoaxes, even if it isn't true, it's wholly believable. You wouldn't be surprised if this was just the beginning.AlastairMeeks said:
Sounds a bit Alf Garnett-ish to me
If your first principle is to take a view on someone, and then see EVERYTHING though that prism it doesn't make for objective analysis, and can lead to embarrassing errors.0 -
Shame we are stuck in the EU for another 2 years thenThe_Taxman said:
Yes, LEAVE did win. Just think how that £350 million a week is going to stave off the current NHS crisis.Sunil_Prasannan said:
You mean 1st like LEAVE in the popular vote?The_Taxman said:1st like HR Clinton in the popular vote.
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Obama care will be unpicked. stimulus just made rich people richer, wall st reform guffaw etcrkrkrk said:
Where do you get the idea he hasn't done much?Alanbrooke said:
he hasnt upset anyone since he hasnt done muchSouthamObserver said:
What can I say? Clearly the majority of Americans disagree.Alanbrooke said:
Obama leaves on an approval rating of 55%SouthamObserver said:It's not a sustainable strategy without a degree of popularity. He needs quick wins or he is going to find himself in trouble.
he did bugger all
You might not like it... But there's been a ton of stuff done.
Obamacare probably the biggest piece of legislation for a generation.
Enormous stimulus package.
Wall Street reform, ended Iraq war, killed bin Laden, saved GM, repealed don't ask don't tell, transformed student loans, Iran nuclear deal, appointed two supreme court judges, reopened relations with Cuba...
Not so much FDR as GFR0 -
Well, if you look at it objectively he threatens the whole established economic system. He may also cause world peace to collapse through his unpredictable behaviour. Other figures in history have been targeted for their extreme views i.e. Hitler. I don't think that you have woken up to how extreme and potentially dangerous Trump might be.MikeK said:
Is that what the so called Liberals are striving for- the assassination of their President - because he doesn't conform to their ideas?The_Taxman said:I wonder if some obscure part of the US security services will kill him off. He clearly cannot take the pressure of the job and he hasn't even started his Presidency yet! If / when one of the United States many enemies provoke him he could unleash Armageddon that engulfs all of humanity.
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DIdn't you do your own share of it last year ?AlastairMeeks said:
2016 was dominated by Leavers and Trumpets telling us that it wasn't what was true that was important, it was what they felt. They can hardly complain if in 2017 their opponents have the same impulses.isam said:
People falling over themselves to believe bad things about someone they don't like is not a great look.. especially if it is qualified by "even if it isn't true, it's wholly believable"matt said:
The point is, as with all great hoaxes, even if it isn't true, it's wholly believable. You wouldn't be surprised if this was just the beginning.AlastairMeeks said:
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He did stuff and he has not upset people. Sounds like a decent combination to me.Alanbrooke said:
Obama care will be unpicked. stimulus just made rich people richer, wall st reform guffaw etcrkrkrk said:
Where do you get the idea he hasn't done much?Alanbrooke said:
he hasnt upset anyone since he hasnt done muchSouthamObserver said:
What can I say? Clearly the majority of Americans disagree.Alanbrooke said:
Obama leaves on an approval rating of 55%SouthamObserver said:It's not a sustainable strategy without a degree of popularity. He needs quick wins or he is going to find himself in trouble.
he did bugger all
You might not like it... But there's been a ton of stuff done.
Obamacare probably the biggest piece of legislation for a generation.
Enormous stimulus package.
Wall Street reform, ended Iraq war, killed bin Laden, saved GM, repealed don't ask don't tell, transformed student loans, Iran nuclear deal, appointed two supreme court judges, reopened relations with Cuba...
Not so much FDR as GFR
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This from the Mail on Line:
It was me: Sworn Trump enemy John McCain admits HE handed smear dossier to FBI - as details surface of document's bizarre journey from British former spy and diplomat
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4108960/How-Trump-s-nemesis-John-McCain-kicked-Kremlin-memo-scandal-handing-dossier-FBI-sending-emissary-abroad-collect-it.html#ixzz4VTo9mmee
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I doubt it'll be concluded during Trump's time in office.SouthamObserver said:
Well, watching that prezzer - which was quite a thing, I have to say - I did wonder how on earth we are going to get a favourable trade deal out of the US.Tykejohnno said:
We all should worry about a world trade war than trump with the media.SouthamObserver said:It's not a sustainable strategy without a degree of popularity. He needs quick wins or he is going to find himself in trouble.
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Admit it you voted for CameronSouthamObserver said:
He did stuff and he has not upset people. Sounds like a decent combination to me.Alanbrooke said:
Obama care will be unpicked. stimulus just made rich people richer, wall st reform guffaw etcrkrkrk said:
Where do you get the idea he hasn't done much?Alanbrooke said:
he hasnt upset anyone since he hasnt done muchSouthamObserver said:
What can I say? Clearly the majority of Americans disagree.Alanbrooke said:
Obama leaves on an approval rating of 55%SouthamObserver said:It's not a sustainable strategy without a degree of popularity. He needs quick wins or he is going to find himself in trouble.
he did bugger all
You might not like it... But there's been a ton of stuff done.
Obamacare probably the biggest piece of legislation for a generation.
Enormous stimulus package.
Wall Street reform, ended Iraq war, killed bin Laden, saved GM, repealed don't ask don't tell, transformed student loans, Iran nuclear deal, appointed two supreme court judges, reopened relations with Cuba...
Not so much FDR as GFR0 -
That could be over before we leave the EU, to be fair.Casino_Royale said:
I doubt it'll be concluded during Trump's time in office.SouthamObserver said:
Well, watching that prezzer - which was quite a thing, I have to say - I did wonder how on earth we are going to get a favourable trade deal out of the US.Tykejohnno said:
We all should worry about a world trade war than trump with the media.SouthamObserver said:It's not a sustainable strategy without a degree of popularity. He needs quick wins or he is going to find himself in trouble.
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Which is precisely why were are heading for an inevitable political crisis. May clearly believes she can use the bluff of hard Brexit to extract a deal that allows her to cherry-pick.John_M said:I'll reiterate my view that we're being incredibly parochial on the Single Market issue. It's a club that requires any member to sign up to all the rules. We might very well want to stay in the Single Market, to which the EU27 response will be 'Fuck right off'.
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Is Trump literally Hitler?The_Taxman said:
Well, if you look at it objectively he threatens the whole established economic system. He may also cause world peace to collapse through his unpredictable behaviour. Other figures in history have been targeted for their extreme views i.e. Hitler. I don't think that you have woken up to how extreme and potentially dangerous Trump might be.MikeK said:
Is that what the so called Liberals are striving for- the assassination of their President - because he doesn't conform to their ideas?The_Taxman said:I wonder if some obscure part of the US security services will kill him off. He clearly cannot take the pressure of the job and he hasn't even started his Presidency yet! If / when one of the United States many enemies provoke him he could unleash Armageddon that engulfs all of humanity.
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Surely 'BBC....,a respected Foreign Journalist' is an oxymoron these days.Chelyabinsk said:
I remember when the Washington Post launched an investigation into Trump and got a 25-year old tape of him pretending to be his own publicist, which he probably leaked to them himself. Then again, it's not as if the Clinton machine or the mainstream media have shown themselves to be particularly competent over the past year or so.Sandpit said:
Does anyone think there's actual tapes of Trump, that the Clinton machine didn't find during their research of the guy over the summer?AlastairMeeks said:0 -
No but he is KKKompromisedRobD said:
Is Trump literally Hitler?The_Taxman said:
Well, if you look at it objectively he threatens the whole established economic system. He may also cause world peace to collapse through his unpredictable behaviour. Other figures in history have been targeted for their extreme views i.e. Hitler. I don't think that you have woken up to how extreme and potentially dangerous Trump might be.MikeK said:
Is that what the so called Liberals are striving for- the assassination of their President - because he doesn't conform to their ideas?The_Taxman said:I wonder if some obscure part of the US security services will kill him off. He clearly cannot take the pressure of the job and he hasn't even started his Presidency yet! If / when one of the United States many enemies provoke him he could unleash Armageddon that engulfs all of humanity.
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It show just how whacky and biased you are when you compare Trump to Hitler.The_Taxman said:
Well, if you look at it objectively he threatens the whole established economic system. He may also cause world peace to collapse through his unpredictable behaviour. Other figures in history have been targeted for their extreme views i.e. Hitler. I don't think that you have woken up to how extreme and potentially dangerous Trump might be.MikeK said:
Is that what the so called Liberals are striving for- the assassination of their President - because he doesn't conform to their ideas?The_Taxman said:I wonder if some obscure part of the US security services will kill him off. He clearly cannot take the pressure of the job and he hasn't even started his Presidency yet! If / when one of the United States many enemies provoke him he could unleash Armageddon that engulfs all of humanity.
Trump doesn't even have a political party supporting him and I don't see Trump storm troops on the streets.0 -
Looks like Trump has caught CNN and Buzzfeed bang to rights to me.0
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Down a whole SIX points from opening (if that's where the graph is plotted from). Economic disaster.Scott_P said:0 -
Rubbish and lying nonsense, Freggles.Freggles said:
No but he is KKKompromisedRobD said:
Is Trump literally Hitler?The_Taxman said:
Well, if you look at it objectively he threatens the whole established economic system. He may also cause world peace to collapse through his unpredictable behaviour. Other figures in history have been targeted for their extreme views i.e. Hitler. I don't think that you have woken up to how extreme and potentially dangerous Trump might be.MikeK said:
Is that what the so called Liberals are striving for- the assassination of their President - because he doesn't conform to their ideas?The_Taxman said:I wonder if some obscure part of the US security services will kill him off. He clearly cannot take the pressure of the job and he hasn't even started his Presidency yet! If / when one of the United States many enemies provoke him he could unleash Armageddon that engulfs all of humanity.
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You are James Ellory and I claim mafia, casino led murders. Oh.Freggles said:
No but he is KKKompromisedRobD said:
Is Trump literally Hitler?The_Taxman said:
Well, if you look at it objectively he threatens the whole established economic system. He may also cause world peace to collapse through his unpredictable behaviour. Other figures in history have been targeted for their extreme views i.e. Hitler. I don't think that you have woken up to how extreme and potentially dangerous Trump might be.MikeK said:
Is that what the so called Liberals are striving for- the assassination of their President - because he doesn't conform to their ideas?The_Taxman said:I wonder if some obscure part of the US security services will kill him off. He clearly cannot take the pressure of the job and he hasn't even started his Presidency yet! If / when one of the United States many enemies provoke him he could unleash Armageddon that engulfs all of humanity.
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The only time I voted for a Cameron platform he lost :-DAlanbrooke said:
Admit it you voted for CameronSouthamObserver said:
He did stuff and he has not upset people. Sounds like a decent combination to me.Alanbrooke said:
Obama care will be unpicked. stimulus just made rich people richer, wall st reform guffaw etcrkrkrk said:
Where do you get the idea he hasn't done much?Alanbrooke said:
he hasnt upset anyone since he hasnt done muchSouthamObserver said:
What can I say? Clearly the majority of Americans disagree.Alanbrooke said:
Obama leaves on an approval rating of 55%SouthamObserver said:It's not a sustainable strategy without a degree of popularity. He needs quick wins or he is going to find himself in trouble.
he did bugger all
You might not like it... But there's been a ton of stuff done.
Obamacare probably the biggest piece of legislation for a generation.
Enormous stimulus package.
Wall Street reform, ended Iraq war, killed bin Laden, saved GM, repealed don't ask don't tell, transformed student loans, Iran nuclear deal, appointed two supreme court judges, reopened relations with Cuba...
Not so much FDR as GFR
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I hope he is not like Hitler but who knows? He has been elected on a nationalistic ticket, that is his mandate. He campaigned as a Nationalist - He will govern as one. Again and again he makes decisions that are grounded in nationalistic sentiment. I think people have got too used to politicians like Tony Blair, Bill Clinton and David Cameron. Trump is going to do what he says and that fills me with fear. I think he will end up taking the world into World war III.RobD said:
Is Trump literally Hitler?The_Taxman said:
Well, if you look at it objectively he threatens the whole established economic system. He may also cause world peace to collapse through his unpredictable behaviour. Other figures in history have been targeted for their extreme views i.e. Hitler. I don't think that you have woken up to how extreme and potentially dangerous Trump might be.MikeK said:
Is that what the so called Liberals are striving for- the assassination of their President - because he doesn't conform to their ideas?The_Taxman said:I wonder if some obscure part of the US security services will kill him off. He clearly cannot take the pressure of the job and he hasn't even started his Presidency yet! If / when one of the United States many enemies provoke him he could unleash Armageddon that engulfs all of humanity.
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The_Taxman said:
Well, if you look at it objectively he threatens the whole established economic system. He may also cause world peace to collapse through his unpredictable behaviour. Other figures in history have been targeted for their extreme views i.e. Hitler. I don't think that you have woken up to how extreme and potentially dangerous Trump might be.MikeK said:
Is that what the so called Liberals are striving for- the assassination of their President - because he doesn't conform to their ideas?The_Taxman said:I wonder if some obscure part of the US security services will kill him off. He clearly cannot take the pressure of the job and he hasn't even started his Presidency yet! If / when one of the United States many enemies provoke him he could unleash Armageddon that engulfs all of humanity.
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He started off with some pointed comments about the pharmaceutical industry, described it as full of lobbyists and taking advantage of a monopoly in their home market.Scott_P said:
That x-axis is both messed up in the centre and has a wildly exaggerated scale. The index went down 8 points, 0.3%, hardly a crash.0 -
Ugh, you voted for AV? Disgusting!SouthamObserver said:
The only time I voted for a Cameron platform he lost :-DAlanbrooke said:
Admit it you voted for CameronSouthamObserver said:
He did stuff and he has not upset people. Sounds like a decent combination to me.Alanbrooke said:
Obama care will be unpicked. stimulus just made rich people richer, wall st reform guffaw etcrkrkrk said:
Where do you get the idea he hasn't done much?Alanbrooke said:
he hasnt upset anyone since he hasnt done muchSouthamObserver said:
What can I say? Clearly the majority of Americans disagree.Alanbrooke said:
Obama leaves on an approval rating of 55%SouthamObserver said:It's not a sustainable strategy without a degree of popularity. He needs quick wins or he is going to find himself in trouble.
he did bugger all
You might not like it... But there's been a ton of stuff done.
Obamacare probably the biggest piece of legislation for a generation.
Enormous stimulus package.
Wall Street reform, ended Iraq war, killed bin Laden, saved GM, repealed don't ask don't tell, transformed student loans, Iran nuclear deal, appointed two supreme court judges, reopened relations with Cuba...
Not so much FDR as GFR0 -
the joy of constantly predicting a disaster is that one day you will be right. It's a bit like saying you will die tomorrow.williamglenn said:
Which is precisely why were are heading for an inevitable political crisis. May clearly believes she can use the bluff of hard Brexit to extract a deal that allows her to cherry-pick.John_M said:I'll reiterate my view that we're being incredibly parochial on the Single Market issue. It's a club that requires any member to sign up to all the rules. We might very well want to stay in the Single Market, to which the EU27 response will be 'Fuck right off'.
Ignore the facts that economic crises are part of the human condition, a bit like death, and you will be proved right.
It's just a shame about the other 200,000 predictions you got wrong.0 -
I'd love to see you in uniform. You'd sh*t yourself before the first day was out.The_Taxman said:
I hope he is not like Hitler but who knows? He has been elected on a nationalistic ticket, that is his mandate. He campaigned as a Nationalist - He will govern as one. Again and again he makes decisions that are grounded in nationalistic sentiment. I think people have got too used to politicians like Tony Blair, Bill Clinton and David Cameron. Trump is going to do what he says and that fills me with fear. I think he will end up taking the world into World war III.RobD said:
Is Trump literally Hitler?The_Taxman said:
Well, if you look at it objectively he threatens the whole established economic system. He may also cause world peace to collapse through his unpredictable behaviour. Other figures in history have been targeted for their extreme views i.e. Hitler. I don't think that you have woken up to how extreme and potentially dangerous Trump might be.MikeK said:
Is that what the so called Liberals are striving for- the assassination of their President - because he doesn't conform to their ideas?The_Taxman said:I wonder if some obscure part of the US security services will kill him off. He clearly cannot take the pressure of the job and he hasn't even started his Presidency yet! If / when one of the United States many enemies provoke him he could unleash Armageddon that engulfs all of humanity.
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Certainly puts the Treasury fear mongering to shame.Ishmael_Z said:
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Worth noting, I seemed to remember a load of journos were banging on about tapes of trump saying the N word etc.
One has to wonder if all these tapes exist why they didn't leak during the campaign, especially after the damage grab them by the pussy did. I have to say when we got that tape I was expecting an avalanche of them.0 -
Can someone explain what CNN has done wrong?0
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He hijacked the Republican party. Just because I do not stick my head in the sand like you doesn't make my opinion whacky. I look forward to you eating your words in the future when Trump screws everything up.MikeK said:
It show just how whacky and biased you are when you compare Trump to Hitler.The_Taxman said:
Well, if you look at it objectively he threatens the whole established economic system. He may also cause world peace to collapse through his unpredictable behaviour. Other figures in history have been targeted for their extreme views i.e. Hitler. I don't think that you have woken up to how extreme and potentially dangerous Trump might be.MikeK said:
Is that what the so called Liberals are striving for- the assassination of their President - because he doesn't conform to their ideas?The_Taxman said:I wonder if some obscure part of the US security services will kill him off. He clearly cannot take the pressure of the job and he hasn't even started his Presidency yet! If / when one of the United States many enemies provoke him he could unleash Armageddon that engulfs all of humanity.
Trump doesn't even have a political party supporting him and I don't see Trump storm troops on the streets.0 -
I don't think anyone else can currently be compared to Hitler apart from Trumps friend Putin.AlsoIndigo said:The_Taxman said:
Well, if you look at it objectively he threatens the whole established economic system. He may also cause world peace to collapse through his unpredictable behaviour. Other figures in history have been targeted for their extreme views i.e. Hitler. I don't think that you have woken up to how extreme and potentially dangerous Trump might be.MikeK said:
Is that what the so called Liberals are striving for- the assassination of their President - because he doesn't conform to their ideas?The_Taxman said:I wonder if some obscure part of the US security services will kill him off. He clearly cannot take the pressure of the job and he hasn't even started his Presidency yet! If / when one of the United States many enemies provoke him he could unleash Armageddon that engulfs all of humanity.
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Scott, that's an embarrassment of a tweet that does the Remain cause no good at all.Scott_P said:0 -
Oh shit...Islamic terrorist attack underway in Spain. Gunman shooting in a supermarket with suicide vest.0
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Plain ludicrousThe_Taxman said:
I hope he is not like Hitler but who knows? He has been elected on a nationalistic ticket, that is his mandate. He campaigned as a Nationalist - He will govern as one. Again and again he makes decisions that are grounded in nationalistic sentiment. I think people have got too used to politicians like Tony Blair, Bill Clinton and David Cameron. Trump is going to do what he says and that fills me with fear. I think he will end up taking the world into World war III.RobD said:
Is Trump literally Hitler?The_Taxman said:
Well, if you look at it objectively he threatens the whole established economic system. He may also cause world peace to collapse through his unpredictable behaviour. Other figures in history have been targeted for their extreme views i.e. Hitler. I don't think that you have woken up to how extreme and potentially dangerous Trump might be.MikeK said:
Is that what the so called Liberals are striving for- the assassination of their President - because he doesn't conform to their ideas?The_Taxman said:I wonder if some obscure part of the US security services will kill him off. He clearly cannot take the pressure of the job and he hasn't even started his Presidency yet! If / when one of the United States many enemies provoke him he could unleash Armageddon that engulfs all of humanity.
we all know invoking A50 will start WW3 before Trump even gets settled in0 -
Oh, and Obama didn't screw up plenty with Russia, The Middle East, Iran, Ukraine and the USA itself?The_Taxman said:
He hijacked the Republican party. Just because I do not stick my head in the sand like you doesn't make my opinion whacky. I look forward to you eating your words in the future when Trump screws everything up.MikeK said:
It show just how whacky and biased you are when you compare Trump to Hitler.The_Taxman said:
Well, if you look at it objectively he threatens the whole established economic system. He may also cause world peace to collapse through his unpredictable behaviour. Other figures in history have been targeted for their extreme views i.e. Hitler. I don't think that you have woken up to how extreme and potentially dangerous Trump might be.MikeK said:
Is that what the so called Liberals are striving for- the assassination of their President - because he doesn't conform to their ideas?The_Taxman said:I wonder if some obscure part of the US security services will kill him off. He clearly cannot take the pressure of the job and he hasn't even started his Presidency yet! If / when one of the United States many enemies provoke him he could unleash Armageddon that engulfs all of humanity.
Trump doesn't even have a political party supporting him and I don't see Trump storm troops on the streets.0 -
I think the argument is they went balls deep (I think that's the term) into this story.SouthamObserver said:Can someone explain what CNN has done wrong?
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I would be of no use in uniform and they would not want me to serve anyway. Just because someone tells you to do something, doesn't mean you have to do it. Maybe you are stupid enough to follow orders but .......MikeK said:
I'd love to see you in uniform. You'd sh*t yourself before the first day was out.The_Taxman said:
I hope he is not like Hitler but who knows? He has been elected on a nationalistic ticket, that is his mandate. He campaigned as a Nationalist - He will govern as one. Again and again he makes decisions that are grounded in nationalistic sentiment. I think people have got too used to politicians like Tony Blair, Bill Clinton and David Cameron. Trump is going to do what he says and that fills me with fear. I think he will end up taking the world into World war III.RobD said:
Is Trump literally Hitler?The_Taxman said:
Well, if you look at it objectively he threatens the whole established economic system. He may also cause world peace to collapse through his unpredictable behaviour. Other figures in history have been targeted for their extreme views i.e. Hitler. I don't think that you have woken up to how extreme and potentially dangerous Trump might be.MikeK said:
Is that what the so called Liberals are striving for- the assassination of their President - because he doesn't conform to their ideas?The_Taxman said:I wonder if some obscure part of the US security services will kill him off. He clearly cannot take the pressure of the job and he hasn't even started his Presidency yet! If / when one of the United States many enemies provoke him he could unleash Armageddon that engulfs all of humanity.
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A50 is the successor to Trident.Alanbrooke said:
Plain ludicrousThe_Taxman said:
I hope he is not like Hitler but who knows? He has been elected on a nationalistic ticket, that is his mandate. He campaigned as a Nationalist - He will govern as one. Again and again he makes decisions that are grounded in nationalistic sentiment. I think people have got too used to politicians like Tony Blair, Bill Clinton and David Cameron. Trump is going to do what he says and that fills me with fear. I think he will end up taking the world into World war III.RobD said:
Is Trump literally Hitler?The_Taxman said:
Well, if you look at it objectively he threatens the whole established economic system. He may also cause world peace to collapse through his unpredictable behaviour. Other figures in history have been targeted for their extreme views i.e. Hitler. I don't think that you have woken up to how extreme and potentially dangerous Trump might be.MikeK said:
Is that what the so called Liberals are striving for- the assassination of their President - because he doesn't conform to their ideas?The_Taxman said:I wonder if some obscure part of the US security services will kill him off. He clearly cannot take the pressure of the job and he hasn't even started his Presidency yet! If / when one of the United States many enemies provoke him he could unleash Armageddon that engulfs all of humanity.
we all know invoking A50 will start WW3 before Trump even gets settled in
There, I've just saved us a bunch of money we can spend on the NHS.0 -
2017 off to a great start.FrancisUrquhart said:Oh shit...Islamic terrorist attack underway in Spain. Gunman shooting in a supermarket with suicide vest.
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I'm still not sure there would be a massive smoking gun on Trump, that someone sat on through the nastiest and most decisive election campaign in modern American history. Someone would have published it somewhere and followed up hard on social media if the mainstream press didn't want to go there.Chelyabinsk said:
I remember when the Washington Post launched an investigation into Trump and got a 25-year old tape of him pretending to be his own publicist, which he probably leaked to them himself. Then again, it's not as if the Clinton machine or the mainstream media have shown themselves to be particularly competent over the past year or so.Sandpit said:
Does anyone think there's actual tapes of Trump, that the Clinton machine didn't find during their research of the guy over the summer?AlastairMeeks said:
Even the story as published today could have taken up a couple of days of the campaign. In the era before anyone started talking about fake news, it might have swung a few votes.0 -
Doesn't matter. We'll all be dead because the NHS will have collapsed by March.Alanbrooke said:
Plain ludicrousThe_Taxman said:
I hope he is not like Hitler but who knows? He has been elected on a nationalistic ticket, that is his mandate. He campaigned as a Nationalist - He will govern as one. Again and again he makes decisions that are grounded in nationalistic sentiment. I think people have got too used to politicians like Tony Blair, Bill Clinton and David Cameron. Trump is going to do what he says and that fills me with fear. I think he will end up taking the world into World war III.RobD said:
Is Trump literally Hitler?The_Taxman said:
Well, if you look at it objectively he threatens the whole established economic system. He may also cause world peace to collapse through his unpredictable behaviour. Other figures in history have been targeted for their extreme views i.e. Hitler. I don't think that you have woken up to how extreme and potentially dangerous Trump might be.MikeK said:
Is that what the so called Liberals are striving for- the assassination of their President - because he doesn't conform to their ideas?The_Taxman said:I wonder if some obscure part of the US security services will kill him off. He clearly cannot take the pressure of the job and he hasn't even started his Presidency yet! If / when one of the United States many enemies provoke him he could unleash Armageddon that engulfs all of humanity.
we all know invoking A50 will start WW3 before Trump even gets settled in0 -
Now you've upset the North KoreansThe_Taxman said:
I don't think anyone else can currently be compared to Hitler apart from Trumps friend Putin.AlsoIndigo said:The_Taxman said:
Well, if you look at it objectively he threatens the whole established economic system. He may also cause world peace to collapse through his unpredictable behaviour. Other figures in history have been targeted for their extreme views i.e. Hitler. I don't think that you have woken up to how extreme and potentially dangerous Trump might be.MikeK said:
Is that what the so called Liberals are striving for- the assassination of their President - because he doesn't conform to their ideas?The_Taxman said:I wonder if some obscure part of the US security services will kill him off. He clearly cannot take the pressure of the job and he hasn't even started his Presidency yet! If / when one of the United States many enemies provoke him he could unleash Armageddon that engulfs all of humanity.
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Speaking of fake news I have just been reading a book called 'I never knew that about England.' It includes gems such as a man born in Gloucestershire in 1732 emigrated to America and signed the Declaration of Independence. He was killed in a duel a year later. His signature is the the most valuable in the world - one recently fetched nearly $800,000. His name was Button Gwinnett. But the book also claims that George Bush was a Quaker - surely not!0
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They've spent the whole day ramping the Buzzfeed story hard, while most of the other networks have been rather general and circumspect in their reporting of it. Trump has been calling them the Clinton News Network for ages, so they're hardly best of friends anyway.SouthamObserver said:Can someone explain what CNN has done wrong?
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can we base it in Scotland just to upset wee Mrs McTurnip ?RobD said:
A50 is the successor to Trident.Alanbrooke said:
Plain ludicrousThe_Taxman said:
I hope he is not like Hitler but who knows? He has been elected on a nationalistic ticket, that is his mandate. He campaigned as a Nationalist - He will govern as one. Again and again he makes decisions that are grounded in nationalistic sentiment. I think people have got too used to politicians like Tony Blair, Bill Clinton and David Cameron. Trump is going to do what he says and that fills me with fear. I think he will end up taking the world into World war III.RobD said:
Is Trump literally Hitler?The_Taxman said:
Well, if you look at it objectively he threatens the whole established economic system. He may also cause world peace to collapse through his unpredictable behaviour. Other figures in history have been targeted for their extreme views i.e. Hitler. I don't think that you have woken up to how extreme and potentially dangerous Trump might be.MikeK said:
Is that what the so called Liberals are striving for- the assassination of their President - because he doesn't conform to their ideas?The_Taxman said:I wonder if some obscure part of the US security services will kill him off. He clearly cannot take the pressure of the job and he hasn't even started his Presidency yet! If / when one of the United States many enemies provoke him he could unleash Armageddon that engulfs all of humanity.
we all know invoking A50 will start WW3 before Trump even gets settled in
There, I've just saved us a bunch of money we can spend on the NHS.0 -
F*ck it, lets just go the whole hog and be part of the new Russia-USA alliance, noone is going to f*ck with that.
Where's your defence NOW Germany
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I think you'll find we only have 24 hours.John_M said:
Doesn't matter. We'll all be dead because the NHS will have collapsed by March.Alanbrooke said:
Plain ludicrousThe_Taxman said:
I hope he is not like Hitler but who knows? He has been elected on a nationalistic ticket, that is his mandate. He campaigned as a Nationalist - He will govern as one. Again and again he makes decisions that are grounded in nationalistic sentiment. I think people have got too used to politicians like Tony Blair, Bill Clinton and David Cameron. Trump is going to do what he says and that fills me with fear. I think he will end up taking the world into World war III.RobD said:
Is Trump literally Hitler?The_Taxman said:
Well, if you look at it objectively he threatens the whole established economic system. He may also cause world peace to collapse through his unpredictable behaviour. Other figures in history have been targeted for their extreme views i.e. Hitler. I don't think that you have woken up to how extreme and potentially dangerous Trump might be.MikeK said:
Is that what the so called Liberals are striving for- the assassination of their President - because he doesn't conform to their ideas?The_Taxman said:I wonder if some obscure part of the US security services will kill him off. He clearly cannot take the pressure of the job and he hasn't even started his Presidency yet! If / when one of the United States many enemies provoke him he could unleash Armageddon that engulfs all of humanity.
we all know invoking A50 will start WW3 before Trump even gets settled in
It's like a bad TV show that's forever on repeat.0 -
There will never be a sufficient GOP majority in Congress to impeach Trump and the Democrats would need to win the Senate as well as the House to have even a chance of doing soSouthamObserver said:
Not sure about that. It will harm him in Congress and that could really hurt. If he becomes a complete liability to the GOP - or the Dems win in 2018 - he may not complete his four year term.The_Taxman said:
Course it has legs. Will it do him any harm? How much lower can he go in terms of polling? When someone is so tarnished I don't think it makes that much difference as he will always have die hard support. If there is a sex tape I would not be surprised if Trump tried to sell it from one of his companies! The reasoning is if someone is going to make money out of it - it might as well be him!Scott_P said:@CJH_News: The BBC's Paul Wood, a respected foreign correspondent, says he has another source claiming multiple #Trump tapes exist. This story has legs
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Mr Brooke, could you point me to a single prediction I've made of economic disaster? I'm predicting a political crisis with a precise timescale, not an economic one.Alanbrooke said:
the joy of constantly predicting a disaster is that one day you will be right. It's a bit like saying you will die tomorrow.williamglenn said:
Which is precisely why were are heading for an inevitable political crisis. May clearly believes she can use the bluff of hard Brexit to extract a deal that allows her to cherry-pick.John_M said:I'll reiterate my view that we're being incredibly parochial on the Single Market issue. It's a club that requires any member to sign up to all the rules. We might very well want to stay in the Single Market, to which the EU27 response will be 'Fuck right off'.
Ignore the facts that economic crises are part of the human condition, a bit like death, and you will be proved right.
It's just a shame about the other 200,000 predictions you got wrong.0 -
Ha. we'll piss on Mrs Merkel and her acolytesPulpstar said:F*ck it, lets just go the whole hog and be part of the new Russia-USA alliance, noone is going to f*ck with that.
Where's your defence NOW Germany
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Ye this is plain horseshit driven by those with anti-Russian neo-liberal agendas in the CIA with some outside mates in politics and the press. Who probably DID vote for Hillary lets face it (Check out the DC resultSandpit said:
I'm still not sure there would be a massive smoking gun on Trump, that someone sat on through the nastiest and most decisive election campaign in modern American history. Someone would have published it somewhere and followed up hard on social media if the mainstream press didn't want to go there.Chelyabinsk said:
I remember when the Washington Post launched an investigation into Trump and got a 25-year old tape of him pretending to be his own publicist, which he probably leaked to them himself. Then again, it's not as if the Clinton machine or the mainstream media have shown themselves to be particularly competent over the past year or so.Sandpit said:
Does anyone think there's actual tapes of Trump, that the Clinton machine didn't find during their research of the guy over the summer?AlastairMeeks said:
Even the story as published today could have taken up a couple of days of the campaign. In the era before anyone started talking about fake news, it might have swung a few votes. )
I think Trump is right on this one.0 -
precise to the nearest centurywilliamglenn said:
Mr Brooke, could you point me to a single prediction I've made of economic disaster? I'm predicting a political crisis with a precise timescale, not an economic one.Alanbrooke said:
the joy of constantly predicting a disaster is that one day you will be right. It's a bit like saying you will die tomorrow.williamglenn said:
Which is precisely why were are heading for an inevitable political crisis. May clearly believes she can use the bluff of hard Brexit to extract a deal that allows her to cherry-pick.John_M said:I'll reiterate my view that we're being incredibly parochial on the Single Market issue. It's a club that requires any member to sign up to all the rules. We might very well want to stay in the Single Market, to which the EU27 response will be 'Fuck right off'.
Ignore the facts that economic crises are part of the human condition, a bit like death, and you will be proved right.
It's just a shame about the other 200,000 predictions you got wrong.0 -
A50 has a 45 minute capabilitybrokenwheel said:
I think you'll find we only have 24 hours.John_M said:
Doesn't matter. We'll all be dead because the NHS will have collapsed by March.Alanbrooke said:
Plain ludicrousThe_Taxman said:
I hope he is not like Hitler but who knows? He has been elected on a nationalistic ticket, that is his mandate. He campaigned as a Nationalist - He will govern as one. Again and again he makes decisions that are grounded in nationalistic sentiment. I think people have got too used to politicians like Tony Blair, Bill Clinton and David Cameron. Trump is going to do what he says and that fills me with fear. I think he will end up taking the world into World war III.RobD said:
Is Trump literally Hitler?The_Taxman said:
Well, if you look at it objectively he threatens the whole established economic system. He may also cause world peace to collapse through his unpredictable behaviour. Other figures in history have been targeted for their extreme views i.e. Hitler. I don't think that you have woken up to how extreme and potentially dangerous Trump might be.MikeK said:
Is that what the so called Liberals are striving for- the assassination of their President - because he doesn't conform to their ideas?The_Taxman said:I wonder if some obscure part of the US security services will kill him off. He clearly cannot take the pressure of the job and he hasn't even started his Presidency yet! If / when one of the United States many enemies provoke him he could unleash Armageddon that engulfs all of humanity.
we all know invoking A50 will start WW3 before Trump even gets settled in
It's like a bad TV show that's forever on repeat.
Tony Blair says so0
