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Nobody knows when Corbyn is finally going to step down but that surely is bound to happen in the not-too distant future. At some point the party will get over its temporary madness and decide that winning elections is once again a priority.
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I'd be worried that Keir Starmer might have too many skeletons in his closet from his previous role at the DPP. Or perhaps not.
Jeremy Corbyn has just brought a bazooka to a water pistol fight
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2016/10/06/jeremy-corbyn-has-appointed-sir-keir-starmer-as-shadow-brexit-secreretary-and-the-tories-should-be-worried/
It's a cult, I fear it will all go a bit Jonestown when Corbyn loses a general election
London constituency won't.
It might be the other way around with Labour members though.
Are there any political inconvenient things in his DPP past ?
And he'll probably tighten further over the next 18 months.
A comedy that is actually doing a national service and, to me, feels like it justifies the TV licence fee I just paid for the whole year alone.
Their problems are Merkel's problems.
Indeed it is a cult around Corbyn, the same behaviour is displayed with the Leave crowd IMO in the media and this website.
With regard to the thread I would be very happy if Starmer became Labour leader, I could see him as PM. I would vote Labour if Starmer was leader. Likewise Umunna or Tristram Hunt (He should have done an Osborne and got rid of his first name imo! Tristram is hardly a name of the people, I suppose it could be worse like Gideon....
I suspect we might have a few more during this year.
He's down as low as 25/1 after being tipped at 100/1.
Burgon is the future of the Labour party, wake up and smell the farts coffee.
What impressed me is the Muslim actresses within it, who are doing a good job of, and clearly enjoying, spoofing ISIS. One would hope that might have an effect on other Muslim women who might be tempted by the ridiculous propaganda of ISIS, assuming it's widely seen.
In terms of integration, it helps to show non-Muslims that there are many Muslims in the UK who are willing to poke fun and satirise ISIS, in that ridiculous way that is noticeably British.
' In 2007 he represented two alleged terrorists in a case in the House of Lords in which he successfully challenged their control orders on human rights grounds. He has also acted in 15 other cases in the House of Lords since 1999, including two cases about the conduct of British soldiers in Iraq '
It doesn't say whether he was acting for or against the British soldiers in Iraq, or what the outcome was.
Anyone know ?
The malign evil of Donald Trump knows no bounds.
I wolf whistled at a woman in a burqa in front of her old man in Covent Garden last year just to mess with him... a very nervous tube ride home
It's alright criticising the lack of a plan etc at the moment but ultimately there will be a cards on the table moment and Starmer will need to put his cards on the table. At that point will he be popular or as covered in manure as anyone else could be?
The issue, of course, isn't what we're aiming at, it's whether we can get it, and at what cost. To shed light on that, journalists should be snooping around on the continent, not here in the UK.
There's something in that episode to offend everybody. And rightly so.
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2017/01/2017-other-eu-states-will-take-back-control-brexit
I am not posting on here much lately due to work load but just wanted to thankyou for being the continuing voice of reason from the former Remain side. You have avoided hyperbole, posted measured analysis and have been a credit to your side of the argument.
I suspect you will win our bet on the eventual form of Leave but it will be hardship to concede that one when the time comes.
But isn't the lesson of 2016 that doing the Establishment thing of tacking to the centre is the way to lose. If you are the anti-Establishment, you have to be outrageous and anti-PC - the more so the better for the upset chances.
So I will not vote Tory again, they need to be put in opposition. Then maybe once they have regained their senses and deliver one nation polices instead of just talking about I might vote for them again.
1) World War III
2) An economic crisis to rival the great depression
3) The Zombie Apocalypse
4) The Rapture
Are there any other things that should be on my list?
I doubt he 'earns' it.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/planet-x-nibiru-headed-earth-doomsayers-article-1.2504846
On the first, I think that, sadly, there are not a few journalists shy of doing a bit of graft on what is fairly straightforward research, and the doing some dispassionate thinking on the conclusions. I think it was Robert Smithson (?) who put it well when he said that the UK objective is to maximise our access for goods and services, whilst minimising the financial, economic, immigration, and constitutional costs. Or, to put it even more simply, maximising the take-back-control part, whilst minimising economic disruption.
In terms of political success for Theresa May, if she can demonstrate she's banked a net saving in our EU budgetary contributions, that we've exited the EU political institutions and the jurisdiction of the ECJ, together with an abolition of the absolute right of freedom of movement from the EU, and a corresponding net reduction in EU migration levels, without a major economic impact by 2020, she'll be fine, even if it doesn't all "kick in" fully for 10 years.
Advantages, based on the type of deal Turkey has:
- No disruption at all to our manufacturing industries and most importantly the supply-chain of the car industry
- No CAP, CFP, or EU environmental law
- No interference by the ECJ in our affairs, except possibly on the narrow area of interpreting the operation of the customs union itself
- No ever-closer union or political union
- Crucially, no freedom of movement requirement
- Low or very low contributions to the EU budget
Disadvantages:
- We couldn't do trade deals (in respect of manufactured goods) with other countries, other than reproducing the EU ones.
- Probably wouldn't be great for the City and other service industries (but we probably have to accept that anyway under any deal)
Both the Tories and Labour supported UK membership of the ERM but Black Wednesday happened on the Tories watch, and their economic reputation took a hit for over a decade.
Dave and George supported Gordon Brown's spending/borrowin, then when the great financial crisis it was Labour who took the hit, and you could argue nearly a decade on, Labour's economic reputation is still tainted by that.
Will make for some nice sunsets though!
I know, I know, pigs might fly. But you did say Black Swans.
It would be quite impressive if they managed to bring in the only man in Britain less electable than Jezza.
For me a 'proper' recession is when interest rates and inflation are in double digits, the great financial crisis didn't see either of those, just imagine if interest rates hit 5%, not high by historical standards, but that has the potential to bugger up the housing market.
Then I can see Corbyn ahead by 10% in the polls.
Essentially the idea is to extend the EU customs zone to the UK for any re-exported goods and the UK acts as a customs agent for the EU for any tariffable goods that enter the UK and are then exported to the EU, those tariffs are set by the EU and conform to their rates. For goods that don't get re-exported to the EU we would have our own tariff rate. Any increment would be payable on exportation to the EU. Slightly more complicated than just staying in the customs union, but much more flexible for our domestic markets and for exports to non-EU destinations.
My comment was not meant entirely seriously. But your point is well made. Europe is not central to FN's raison d'être, and if in power, they can address the issue as they wish at that point.