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MarqueeMark said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. Eagles, I'm not sure Flaminius, Marcellus or Paullus would agree with your assessment of Hannibal's capabilities.

Mr Dancer, to put it into terms you might understand.

Winning a battle here and there is a bit like winning an F1 Grand Prix.

Wars are like F1 championships, they are what the true greats are judged on.

I now have the image of Hannibal's elephants on wet-weather tyres....

Charlie Whiting would have red flagged the crossing of the Alps.

@Tissue_Price That admission begs more questions than it answers.

You can't blame Deloitte of course: they have an interest in securing future instructions from HMG.

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. Jessop, not my forte, but isn't gravity one of the four basic forces in the universe?

Mr. Eagles, here and there? He stomped around Italy for over a decade. He had the most audacious march in history, the most devastating ambush in history and the most crushing battlefield victory in history.

That's my point, he was leading for 15 out of what 16 years and still lost the war.

Who wins the grand prix, the chap leading the first 70 laps or the one who crosses the finishing line first?

I mean what sort of crap general wins the first 15 years of a war, then loses the war in the last year?

The early victories were the epitome of Pyrrhic.

Pulpstar said:

JosiasJessop said:

Off-topic: an interesting new theory 'solves' the dark matter problem of gravity. By saying that gravity is *not* a fundamental force.

http://phys.org/news/2016-11-theory-gravity-dark.html

If right, it may solve some of the problems facing physics. And probably create new ones at the same time ...

Much as I like physics, more engineering ought to be the focus.

Particularly on mahoosive rockets.

Some research into the properties of oxygen and helium at low temperatures would be handy mind

Particularly when in close proximity to, and filling, composite-overwrapped pressure vessels, perchance?

I'm very sceptical that SpaceX can solve the problem by altering the loading sequence. That may well work, but what happens when they have to unload because of a launch delay, and then reload shortly afterwards? Temperature profiles will be all over the place.

Much safer to put the COPVs outside the LO tank IMO, but that would involve a significant redesign.

But what do I know? I'm not a rocket scientists.

Carolus_Rex said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Jeez, what a narcissistic knob the disgraced Liam Fox is

So, what are the current batch of civil servants getting up to? Well, over in the Department for International Trade, Mr S understands that reading is high on the agenda. Word reaches Steerpike that Liam Fox has instructed his civil servants to read Rising Tides: Facing the Challenges of a New Era — a book that aims to explain ‘how to meet the challenge of the new global reality’. And which bright spark is the author of the tome? A man by the name of… Liam Fox. Well, that’s one way to increase book sales.

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/11/liam-fox-throws-book-civil-servants/

In fairness I suppose if a minister wants his civil servants to understand his thinking getting them to read his book might make sense.

Which is not the same as saying Liam Fox isn't a narcissistic knob, of course.

In this context, surely it's "nob".

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. Eagles, the Battle of Asculum was the epitome of Pyrrhic...

You may as well claim Thatcher was a failure because she was forced out.

All the true greats are forced out by their own side, Thatcher and Julius Caesar for example.

ReggieCide said:

Carolus_Rex said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Jeez, what a narcissistic knob the disgraced Liam Fox is

So, what are the current batch of civil servants getting up to? Well, over in the Department for International Trade, Mr S understands that reading is high on the agenda. Word reaches Steerpike that Liam Fox has instructed his civil servants to read Rising Tides: Facing the Challenges of a New Era — a book that aims to explain ‘how to meet the challenge of the new global reality’. And which bright spark is the author of the tome? A man by the name of… Liam Fox. Well, that’s one way to increase book sales.

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/11/liam-fox-throws-book-civil-servants/

In fairness I suppose if a minister wants his civil servants to understand his thinking getting them to read his book might make sense.

Which is not the same as saying Liam Fox isn't a narcissistic knob, of course.

In this context, surely it's "nob".

I've always wondered about this.

Is it knobhead or nobhead?

RobD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

https://twitter.com/Jack_Blanchard_/status/798564743371890688

So the report was written without any insight into what is actually going on? You'd have thought they would have clarified that pretty pronto.

All those extra experts we'll need to employ to get Brexit through? Forget it. Something tells me the Govt. just deleted Deloittes from their speed-dial....

JosiasJessop said:

Casino_Royale said:

JosiasJessop said:

MarqueeMark said:

logical_song said:

MarqueeMark said:

Curse of the new thread. FPT:

williamglenn said:

"The person who wrote it disagrees."

But what Brexit means was not decided by the referendum.

No. But what was decided was Brexit. We're going out.

Yes

Nope.

That's your view, as one of the second group. Many (most?) of the first group wouldn't agree. And therein lies the problem.

Selling any deal where we remain in some EU or European institutions - and especially pay into it - will be really difficult. Perhaps impossibly so.

It's a mess, and I don't see any easy solutions. I daresay you do, but you're not being realistic IMO.

I don't think there's any Brexit deal where we remain in some EU or European institutions. There's the customs union, of course, but that isn't the same as being part of the EU, and nor is it an institution. Even the EEA means quitting the ECJ. We will remain a member of the ECHR and Council of Europe (for the time being) no matter what.

I think paying into the EU is different, as long as the government can demonstrate its for access, with a net benefit trading gain, and a net saving, and not a compulsory membership fee. As usual, voters will weight up the costs and benefits for themselves.

And, for the record, I'm probably more of a hard Brexiteer than the latter, for what it's worth. I'd be satisfied with either. Just more satisfied with the former.

This whole "a-ha! you Brexiteers can't agree amongst yourselves what you want!" has always been viewed as be some sort of killer argument by Remainers since Day 1, but it fails to take account that the no.1 objective of Brexiteers is to quit because we viewed remaining in the EU as a neverending escalator to closer harmonisation and integration.

(And I'm perfectly realistic, thank you very much.)

TheScreamingEagles said:

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. Jessop, not my forte, but isn't gravity one of the four basic forces in the universe?

Mr. Eagles, here and there? He stomped around Italy for over a decade. He had the most audacious march in history, the most devastating ambush in history and the most crushing battlefield victory in history.

That's my point, he was leading for 15 out of what 16 years and still lost the war.

Who wins the grand prix, the chap leading the first 70 laps or the one who crosses the finishing line first?

I mean what sort of crap general wins the first 15 years of a war, then loses the war in the last year?

The early victories were the epitome of Pyrrhic.

"I mean what sort of crap general wins the first 15 years of a war, then loses the war in the last year?"

Cameron?

TheScreamingEagles said:

https://twitter.com/Jack_Blanchard_/status/798564743371890688

Probably reasonable to think that Deloitte won't be commissioned for government work anytime soon, and that one of its employees is looking for fresh pastures. Interested to see the Times take.

Yes , mention of a town council by election in Crewe.
Brian Silvester , UKIP candidate rather foolishly boasted yesterday that he had 9,737 followers on twitter and his Labour opponent had just 17 . Less than 24 hours later he now has 9,786 bur Natasha Maroni now has 14,166 . Perhaps the Conservative candidate will win , he is not on twitter at all .

AlastairMeeks said:

@Tissue_Price That admission begs more questions than it answers.

You can't blame Deloitte of course: they have an interest in securing future instructions from HMG.

I suspect that their PR office and lawyers have had a very busy day. No doubt this "admission" was dictated to them in very precise terms. And the idiot who wrote the memo in the first place is probably working on his CV as we speak.

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. Jessop, not my forte, but isn't gravity one of the four basic forces in the universe?

(Snip).

Indeed (*). Weak and strong nuclear, electromagnetism, and gravity. Gravity's by far the weakest of the four, which is why a small toy magnet can overcome the entirety of Earth's gravity when it picks up a paperclip.

What this guy appears to be saying is that if you assume gravity is not a fundamental force but an *effect* of other things, then much of the messiness and kluges involving things like dark matter disappear.

(*) Not apologising this time. What are you readers going to do about it, eh?

TheScreamingEagles said:

ReggieCide said:

Carolus_Rex said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Jeez, what a narcissistic knob the disgraced Liam Fox is

So, what are the current batch of civil servants getting up to? Well, over in the Department for International Trade, Mr S understands that reading is high on the agenda. Word reaches Steerpike that Liam Fox has instructed his civil servants to read Rising Tides: Facing the Challenges of a New Era — a book that aims to explain ‘how to meet the challenge of the new global reality’. And which bright spark is the author of the tome? A man by the name of… Liam Fox. Well, that’s one way to increase book sales.

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/11/liam-fox-throws-book-civil-servants/

In fairness I suppose if a minister wants his civil servants to understand his thinking getting them to read his book might make sense.

Which is not the same as saying Liam Fox isn't a narcissistic knob, of course.

In this context, surely it's "nob".

I've always wondered about this.

Is it knobhead or nobhead?

for the sake of brevity and in the context of my origins, shall we agree it's "nob" - "head" is redundant, a prick's a prick

The Sunday Sport editor was dead right about not hyphenating bellend. I feel just as firmly about it as he did.

AlastairMeeks said:

The Sunday Sport editor was dead right about not hyphenating bellend. I feel just as firmly about it as he did.

Same here

Casino_Royale said:

I don't think there's any Brexit deal where we remain in some EU or European institutions. There's the customs union, of course, but that isn't the same as being part of the EU, and nor is it an institution. Even the EEA means quitting the ECJ. We will remain a member of the ECHR and Council of Europe (for the time being) no matter what.

I think paying into the EU is different, as long as the government can demonstrate its for access, with a net benefit trading gain, and a net saving, and not a compulsory membership fee. As usual, voters will weight up the costs and benefits for themselves.

And, for the record, I'm probably more of a hard Brexiteer than the latter, for what it's worth. I'd be satisfied with either. Just more satisfied with the former.

This whole "a-ha! you Brexiteers can't agree amongst yourselves what you want!" has always been viewed as be some sort of killer argument by Remainers since Day 1, but it fails to take account that the no.1 objective of Brexiteers is to quit because we viewed remaining in the EU as a neverending escalator to closer harmonisation and integration.

(And I'm perfectly realistic, thank you very much.)

I forgot you speak for all Brexiteers. Many may disagree with your "no. 1 objective".

And you would think you're being realistic. I'm far from sure you are. But hey, reasonable people can reasonably differ on such things. I meant no slight.

AlastairMeeks said:

The Sunday Sport editor was dead right about not hyphenating bellend. I feel just as firmly about it as he did.

In-deed.

TheScreamingEagles said:

MarkSenior said:

Yes , mention of a town council by election in Crewe.
Brian Silvester , UKIP candidate rather foolishly boasted yesterday that he had 9,737 followers on twitter and his Labour opponent had just 17 . Less than 24 hours later he now has 9,786 bur Natasha Maroni now has 14,166 . Perhaps the Conservative candidate will win , he is not on twitter at all .

That's nothing, yesterday one of my tweets was re-tweeted/liked over 3,000 times.

Re-tweeting your own tweet 3000 times doesn't count...

Dadge said:

30k more civil servants? That means a minimum of £2 billion.

I wonder how many of these civil servants will be from the EU?

Except Deloite admit the report was written without any input from/access to government sources.

RobD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

MarkSenior said:

Yes , mention of a town council by election in Crewe.
Brian Silvester , UKIP candidate rather foolishly boasted yesterday that he had 9,737 followers on twitter and his Labour opponent had just 17 . Less than 24 hours later he now has 9,786 bur Natasha Maroni now has 14,166 . Perhaps the Conservative candidate will win , he is not on twitter at all .

That's nothing, yesterday one of my tweets was re-tweeted/liked over 3,000 times.

Re-tweeting your own tweet 3000 times doesn't count...

It really wasn't me. Having one of your tweets go through that is a killer for your phone's battery life.

If a victory is won by pandering to the basest instincts of the electorate, it's unsurprising when parts of that selfsame electorate feels able to express their basest instincts. We've seen it with Brexit and now we're seeing it with Donald Trump's victory. It's utterly predictable.

RobD said:

Dadge said:

30k more civil servants? That means a minimum of £2 billion.

I wonder how many of these civil servants will be from the EU?

Except Deloite admit the report was written without any input from/access to government sources.

Has there been any reaction from the Times?

RobD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

RobD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

MarkSenior said:

Yes , mention of a town council by election in Crewe.
Brian Silvester , UKIP candidate rather foolishly boasted yesterday that he had 9,737 followers on twitter and his Labour opponent had just 17 . Less than 24 hours later he now has 9,786 bur Natasha Maroni now has 14,166 . Perhaps the Conservative candidate will win , he is not on twitter at all .

That's nothing, yesterday one of my tweets was re-tweeted/liked over 3,000 times.

Re-tweeting your own tweet 3000 times doesn't count...

It really wasn't me. Having one of your tweets go through that is a killer for your phone's battery life.

I remember seeing that video of someone with a million or so follower on instagram who posted an image, and the likes started rolling in immediately and very quickly on their phone.

My favourite thing like that was this Scottish Unionist on twitter, who was re-tweeted by J.K. Rowling, he went from having 100 notifications a year, to 100 notifications a minute.

TheScreamingEagles said:

RobD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

RobD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

MarkSenior said:

Yes , mention of a town council by election in Crewe.
Brian Silvester , UKIP candidate rather foolishly boasted yesterday that he had 9,737 followers on twitter and his Labour opponent had just 17 . Less than 24 hours later he now has 9,786 bur Natasha Maroni now has 14,166 . Perhaps the Conservative candidate will win , he is not on twitter at all .

That's nothing, yesterday one of my tweets was re-tweeted/liked over 3,000 times.

Re-tweeting your own tweet 3000 times doesn't count...

It really wasn't me. Having one of your tweets go through that is a killer for your phone's battery life.

I remember seeing that video of someone with a million or so follower on instagram who posted an image, and the likes started rolling in immediately and very quickly on their phone.

My favourite thing like that was this Scottish Unionist on twitter, who was re-tweeted by J.K. Rowling, he went from having 100 notifications a year, to 100 notifications a minute.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGl796352RI

williamglenn said:

RobD said:

Dadge said:

30k more civil servants? That means a minimum of £2 billion.

I wonder how many of these civil servants will be from the EU?

Except Deloite admit the report was written without any input from/access to government sources.

No, they admit it's without any access to Number 10 and any input from government departments. The converse can't be ruled out.

Seems unlikely given the Government's slapping down of Deloite.

RobD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

RobD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

RobD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

MarkSenior said:

Yes , mention of a town council by election in Crewe.
Brian Silvester , UKIP candidate rather foolishly boasted yesterday that he had 9,737 followers on twitter and his Labour opponent had just 17 . Less than 24 hours later he now has 9,786 bur Natasha Maroni now has 14,166 . Perhaps the Conservative candidate will win , he is not on twitter at all .

That's nothing, yesterday one of my tweets was re-tweeted/liked over 3,000 times.

Re-tweeting your own tweet 3000 times doesn't count...

It really wasn't me. Having one of your tweets go through that is a killer for your phone's battery life.

I remember seeing that video of someone with a million or so follower on instagram who posted an image, and the likes started rolling in immediately and very quickly on their phone.

My favourite thing like that was this Scottish Unionist on twitter, who was re-tweeted by J.K. Rowling, he went from having 100 notifications a year, to 100 notifications a minute.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGl796352RI

That's what my phone was like yesterday.

Thank heavens for the awesome battery life on the iPhone 7

AlastairMeeks said:

The question who did commission the Deloitte report is obvious and glaring. No doubt we will find out in due course.

Sounds like it was commissioned by themselves. Who else would commission a report that was intended for internal Deloite consumption?

Sky making a humilating retreat from the Deloitte story. This incident demonstrates how Sky, BBC and others just swallow any story that assists their remain agenda.

The British people deserve much better, by all means report against Brexit when they have researched and authenticated a story but also report pro Brexit stories with the same zeal

https://twitter.com/samcoatestimes/status/798574042538196992

TheScreamingEagles said:

RobD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

RobD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

RobD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

MarkSenior said:

Yes , mention of a town council by election in Crewe.
Brian Silvester , UKIP candidate rather foolishly boasted yesterday that he had 9,737 followers on twitter and his Labour opponent had just 17 . Less than 24 hours later he now has 9,786 bur Natasha Maroni now has 14,166 . Perhaps the Conservative candidate will win , he is not on twitter at all .

That's nothing, yesterday one of my tweets was re-tweeted/liked over 3,000 times.

Re-tweeting your own tweet 3000 times doesn't count...

It really wasn't me. Having one of your tweets go through that is a killer for your phone's battery life.

I remember seeing that video of someone with a million or so follower on instagram who posted an image, and the likes started rolling in immediately and very quickly on their phone.

My favourite thing like that was this Scottish Unionist on twitter, who was re-tweeted by J.K. Rowling, he went from having 100 notifications a year, to 100 notifications a minute.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGl796352RI

That's what my phone was like yesterday.

Thank heavens for the awesome battery life on the iPhone 7

Surprised that you still have push notifications turned on...

JosiasJessop said:

Casino_Royale said:

I don't think there's any Brexit deal where we remain in some EU or European institutions. There's the customs union, of course, but that isn't the same as being part of the EU, and nor is it an institution. Even the EEA means quitting the ECJ. We will remain a member of the ECHR and Council of Europe (for the time being) no matter what.

I think paying into the EU is different, as long as the government can demonstrate its for access, with a net benefit trading gain, and a net saving, and not a compulsory membership fee. As usual, voters will weight up the costs and benefits for themselves.

And, for the record, I'm probably more of a hard Brexiteer than the latter, for what it's worth. I'd be satisfied with either. Just more satisfied with the former.

This whole "a-ha! you Brexiteers can't agree amongst yourselves what you want!" has always been viewed as be some sort of killer argument by Remainers since Day 1, but it fails to take account that the no.1 objective of Brexiteers is to quit because we viewed remaining in the EU as a neverending escalator to closer harmonisation and integration.

(And I'm perfectly realistic, thank you very much.)

I forgot you speak for all Brexiteers. Many may disagree with your "no. 1 objective".

And you would think you're being realistic. I'm far from sure you are. But hey, reasonable people can reasonably differ on such things. I meant no slight.

I don't, but you felt you knew my mind. So I corrected you.

I recognise you bottled voting Leave, but that doesn't make you right and me wrong.

Like you said, reasonable people can differ.

chestnut said:

Merkel signals move on freedom of movement:

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-germany-movement-idUKKBN13A1O5?il=0

"But on the finer detail of defining the free movement of people, she added: "I personally am of the view that we will have to discuss further with the (European) Commission when this freedom of movement applies from."

Merkel said that if, for example, someone came to Germany from eastern Europe and worked only for a short time but acquired a life-long claim on welfare benefits, "then I see a question about which we must talk again."

"Free movement applies to me in the sense that the employee himself earns the money he needs for himself and his family in the other member state," she said.

Lennon said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

RobD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

RobD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

RobD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

MarkSenior said:

Yes , mention of a town council by election in Crewe.
Brian Silvester , UKIP candidate rather foolishly boasted yesterday that he had 9,737 followers on twitter and his Labour opponent had just 17 . Less than 24 hours later he now has 9,786 bur Natasha Maroni now has 14,166 . Perhaps the Conservative candidate will win , he is not on twitter at all .

That's nothing, yesterday one of my tweets was re-tweeted/liked over 3,000 times.

Re-tweeting your own tweet 3000 times doesn't count...

It really wasn't me. Having one of your tweets go through that is a killer for your phone's battery life.

I remember seeing that video of someone with a million or so follower on instagram who posted an image, and the likes started rolling in immediately and very quickly on their phone.

My favourite thing like that was this Scottish Unionist on twitter, who was re-tweeted by J.K. Rowling, he went from having 100 notifications a year, to 100 notifications a minute.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGl796352RI

That's what my phone was like yesterday.

Thank heavens for the awesome battery life on the iPhone 7

Surprised that you still have push notifications turned on...

Normally I don't get that many so never been much of an issue.

Most retweets/likes I've ever had was 800 odd on June 23rd this year

AlastairMeeks said:

If a victory is won by pandering to the basest instincts of the electorate, it's unsurprising when parts of that selfsame electorate feels able to express their basest instincts. We've seen it with Brexit and now we're seeing it with Donald Trump's victory. It's utterly predictable.

I'm afraid we don't live in Plato's Republic.

RobD said:

Scott_P said:

https://twitter.com/samcoatestimes/status/798574042538196992

Of course it has ben chaotic. Nothing was done to prepare for it

George and Dave eh? What a pair!

MarqueeMark said:

ReggieCide said:

AlastairMeeks said:

The question who did commission the Deloitte report is obvious and glaring. No doubt we will find out in due course.

Hasn't it been reported that it was uncommissioned?

Deloittes themselves have acknowledged that.

The more interesting question is who at Deloittes leaked it to the Times.

Hopefully Deloitte will lose whatever contract they have like what happened with PA when they lost that memory stick.

JosiasJessop said:

RobD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

RobD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

RobD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

MarkSenior said:

Yes , mention of a town council by election in Crewe.
Brian Silvester , UKIP candidate rather foolishly boasted yesterday that he had 9,737 followers on twitter and his Labour opponent had just 17 . Less than 24 hours later he now has 9,786 bur Natasha Maroni now has 14,166 . Perhaps the Conservative candidate will win , he is not on twitter at all .

That's nothing, yesterday one of my tweets was re-tweeted/liked over 3,000 times.

Re-tweeting your own tweet 3000 times doesn't count...

It really wasn't me. Having one of your tweets go through that is a killer for your phone's battery life.

I remember seeing that video of someone with a million or so follower on instagram who posted an image, and the likes started rolling in immediately and very quickly on their phone.

My favourite thing like that was this Scottish Unionist on twitter, who was re-tweeted by J.K. Rowling, he went from having 100 notifications a year, to 100 notifications a minute.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGl796352RI

That looks a bit like phone belonging to the sysadmin for the NHS's mail system yesterday.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/nov/14/186m-needless-emails-nhs-wide-test-message-and-replies-to-all-crash-system

It distinctly worries me that people dumb enough to blindly use 'reply-all' work in the health service. Mind you, Microsoft got hit by it yonks ago,

The people who use it probably reason that if they "talk" to enough people, someone, sometime, somewhere will listen

williamglenn said:

chestnut said:

Merkel signals move on freedom of movement:

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-germany-movement-idUKKBN13A1O5?il=0

"But on the finer detail of defining the free movement of people, she added: "I personally am of the view that we will have to discuss further with the (European) Commission when this freedom of movement applies from."

Merkel said that if, for example, someone came to Germany from eastern Europe and worked only for a short time but acquired a life-long claim on welfare benefits, "then I see a question about which we must talk again."

"Free movement applies to me in the sense that the employee himself earns the money he needs for himself and his family in the other member state," she said.

Blimey if she had agreed that with Dave who knows where we would be now.

MarkHopkins said:

Google backs UK with £1bn investment plan

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37988095

Really good news for UK plc. Better get on with that airport expansion!

chestnut said:

Merkel signals move on freedom of movement:

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-germany-movement-idUKKBN13A1O5?il=0

"But on the finer detail of defining the free movement of people, she added: "I personally am of the view that we will have to discuss further with the (European) Commission when this freedom of movement applies from."

Merkel said that if, for example, someone came to Germany from eastern Europe and worked only for a short time but acquired a life-long claim on welfare benefits, "then I see a question about which we must talk again."

Bit late - just panic

williamglenn said:

MarkHopkins said:

Google backs UK with £1bn investment plan

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37988095

Perhaps Hillary's loss is our gain?

He said open borders and free movement for skilled migrants were "absolutely" important to the success of the technology sector in the UK.
It was Mr Pichai's first European broadcast interview since he became chief executive last year.
Sources at the technology company also said if barriers were thrown up to skilled immigration following the vote to leave the European Union, some of Google's investment could be at risk.

I reckon Google has been talking to HMG.

ReggieCide said:

DavidL said:

williamglenn said:

chestnut said:

Merkel signals move on freedom of movement:

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-germany-movement-idUKKBN13A1O5?il=0

"But on the finer detail of defining the free movement of people, she added: "I personally am of the view that we will have to discuss further with the (European) Commission when this freedom of movement applies from."

Merkel said that if, for example, someone came to Germany from eastern Europe and worked only for a short time but acquired a life-long claim on welfare benefits, "then I see a question about which we must talk again."

"Free movement applies to me in the sense that the employee himself earns the money he needs for himself and his family in the other member state," she said.

Blimey if she had agreed that with Dave who knows where we would be now.

Remaining

That is what we're doing via a more circuitous route.

ReggieCide said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

MarqueeMark said:

ReggieCide said:

AlastairMeeks said:

The question who did commission the Deloitte report is obvious and glaring. No doubt we will find out in due course.

Hasn't it been reported that it was uncommissioned?

Deloittes themselves have acknowledged that.

The more interesting question is who at Deloittes leaked it to the Times.

I'm fairly certain it was leaked to The Times by someone inside the Government.

You're being coy about the basis for even a fair certainty. Why?

Because some people will automatically think it was leaked by Osborne/Cameron or their associates because I said it was leaked by someone inside the Government.

The memo does have the ring of authenticity of the various tensions within government.

As I noted today, the Government haven't disputed the contents of the memo.

TheScreamingEagles said:

ReggieCide said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

MarqueeMark said:

ReggieCide said:

AlastairMeeks said:

The question who did commission the Deloitte report is obvious and glaring. No doubt we will find out in due course.

Hasn't it been reported that it was uncommissioned?

Deloittes themselves have acknowledged that.

The more interesting question is who at Deloittes leaked it to the Times.

I'm fairly certain it was leaked to The Times by someone inside the Government.

You're being coy about the basis for even a fair certainty. Why?

Because some people will automatically think it was leaked by Osborne/Cameron or their associates because I said it was leaked by someone inside the Government.

The memo does have the ring of authenticity of the various tensions within government.

As I noted today, the Government haven't disputed the contents of the memo.

Grayling said the 30K figure was rubbish.

Not quite plugging (it's for a January anthology, but thought PB might like it) but I wrote this elsewhere:
"It's going to be huge, people. So big, so good. Better than you could ever believe. Ratsy's [the publisher] a great guy, the best guy. He picks winners, people, he knows how to win. And we're going to win so big. This anthology has the best words.

We're going to build an anthology, everyone. The best anthology you could imagine. And the readers are gonna pay for it."

Pretty pleased, as some chaps you may actually have heard of (Adrian Tchaikovsky, for example) are also contributing.

MP_SE said:

MarqueeMark said:

ReggieCide said:

AlastairMeeks said:

The question who did commission the Deloitte report is obvious and glaring. No doubt we will find out in due course.

Hasn't it been reported that it was uncommissioned?

Deloittes themselves have acknowledged that.

The more interesting question is who at Deloittes leaked it to the Times.

Hopefully Deloitte will lose whatever contract they have like what happened with PA when they lost that memory stick.

So competitive tendering is now a thing of the past?