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The best thing the KLF ever did was Doctorin' The Tardis.0
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Misspelling of name?TheScreamingEagles said:This is very easy, but what's the obvious link between The KLF and Hillary Clinton?
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gadzooks!TheScreamingEagles said:'Kin hell, in the space of five years the Lib Dems went from holding the seat of Dunfermline and West Fife to a 4% share of the vote.
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Tammy Wynette.Ishmael_X said:
Misspelling of name?TheScreamingEagles said:This is very easy, but what's the obvious link between The KLF and Hillary Clinton?
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Somehow Melania Trump has scrubbed that memory from my mind,TheScreamingEagles said:
Tammy Wynette.Ishmael_X said:
Misspelling of name?TheScreamingEagles said:This is very easy, but what's the obvious link between The KLF and Hillary Clinton?
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on my jukebox....AndyJS said:The best thing the KLF ever did was Doctorin' The Tardis.
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My answer works too though (kopyright liberation front).TheScreamingEagles said:
Tammy Wynette.Ishmael_X said:
Misspelling of name?TheScreamingEagles said:This is very easy, but what's the obvious link between The KLF and Hillary Clinton?
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Yes - big problems in Italy - tried 4 ATM'S at 4 banks and the last one paid out. My son and son in law both had difficulties with the Italian ATM'sGardenwalker said:
Very impressive.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Travel more. I have visited every European and Scandanavian country, been round the world seven times in the last 9 years, visited Antarctica and enjoyed three weeks in Italy this summer.Gardenwalker said:
Obviously you cannot defame a continent, I was talking figuratively. But if you think Taffys picture was accurate I suggest you travel more.Big_G_NorthWales said:
But why is it defamatoryGardenwalker said:
As a picture of Europe, it is positively Breitbartian.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Just as a matter of interest what is defamatory about 'Taffys' commentsGardenwalker said:
Keep going. European countries *love* to hear how shite they are from the dusty pits where they wait for apocalyptic fire to end.taffys said:''So, keep taking your brief from the Mail and "the rise of a new Britain" by all means, but I suspect that with Scotland restive, and the economy overall in the toilet, that a whole load of people will be rowing back from Brexit triumphalism as fast as they can.''
Must be great to live in Europe. Are you in one of those parts where youth unemployment is close to 50%? Or in one where the banking system has essentially collapsed? Or when with high racial tensions? Or one where it seems terror plots are thwarted on a daily basis? or one with massed PEGIDA marches? Or one where the far right is sweeping the towns?
Yeah Europe. Over there they've REALLY got things sorted.
Edit: Deleted the inflammatory bits.
Seriously though, this image you have of Europe is verging on defamatory.
Don't worry, you won't be beset by a PEGIDA mob fleeing a collapsing financial system at Calais.
Does that fit the bill for you
Did you see any massed PEGIDA marches?
Have any trouble withdrawing cash from the ATMs in Europe's "essentially collapsed" financial system?
Of course not.
In fact you enjoyed an undoubtedly very pleasant three weeks in Italy, a country which despite all its troubles is still very liveable.
My concern is that the kind of delusional talk from Taffy above fosters the worst kind of Brexit. Culturally insular and economically disastrous. Whatever happens, Europe is our neighbourhood. We need to work with them, not pour bile on them.0 -
Just imagine where they'll be in five years! 0.2% Or will prime minister Farron be introducing the Euro?TheScreamingEagles said:'Kin hell, in the space of five years the Lib Dems went from holding the seat of Dunfermline and West Fife to a 4% share of the vote.
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Who would Bill Drummond be without Julian Cope?AndyJS said:The best thing the KLF ever did was Doctorin' The Tardis.
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Off topically speaking, Irish Radio RTE 1 on long wave is often quite old-fashioned and civilised.0
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...are you going to explain that?TheScreamingEagles said:
Tammy Wynette.Ishmael_X said:
Misspelling of name?TheScreamingEagles said:This is very easy, but what's the obvious link between The KLF and Hillary Clinton?
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Well Melania Trump is seared in the memories of many men.AlastairMeeks said:
Somehow Melania Trump has scrubbed that memory from my mind,TheScreamingEagles said:
Tammy Wynette.Ishmael_X said:
Misspelling of name?TheScreamingEagles said:This is very easy, but what's the obvious link between The KLF and Hillary Clinton?
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It doesIshmael_X said:
My answer works too though (kopyright liberation front).TheScreamingEagles said:
Tammy Wynette.Ishmael_X said:
Misspelling of name?TheScreamingEagles said:This is very easy, but what's the obvious link between The KLF and Hillary Clinton?
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For some, the UK wasn't broken. It didn't need fixing. London was successful. The success was spreading. The dice didn't have to be rolled.SeanT said:
I do sometimes have the same chilling feeling...... But it passes. For now.Jonathan said:
Bit like BrexitSeanT said:
THEY BURNED A MILLION QUIDTheScreamingEagles said:
The KLF are a truly awesome 80s/90s electronica band.tyson said:
What is KLF for an outsider?TheScreamingEagles said:I reckon if Hillary takes Tennessee at 3AM on November 9th, I reckon that'll be peak KLF on PB.
Here's some of their work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRA93KWL1eY
Literally. Then regretted it.
I have images of them now, in penurious late middle age, waking up in a cold sweat thinking:
Jesus, did I really burn a MILLION QUID?
Then realising that Yes, they did.0 -
Whitney joins the JAMS, Downtown or it's grim up north are all better (all Justified Ancients of Mu Mu rather than KLF tracks though).Scrapheap_as_was said:
on my jukebox....AndyJS said:The best thing the KLF ever did was Doctorin' The Tardis.
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Not quote a Million Quid - from memory they split it between the people who were there and I know at least one of them pocketed a grand...SeanT said:
THEY BURNED A MILLION QUIDTheScreamingEagles said:
The KLF are a truly awesome 80s/90s electronica band.tyson said:
What is KLF for an outsider?TheScreamingEagles said:I reckon if Hillary takes Tennessee at 3AM on November 9th, I reckon that'll be peak KLF on PB.
Here's some of their work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRA93KWL1eY
Literally. Then regretted it.
I have images of them now, in penurious late middle age, waking up in a cold sweat thinking:
Jesus, did I really burn a MILLION QUID?
Then realising that Yes, they did.0 -
Tammy Wynette did Justified and Ancient with The KLFTheWhiteRabbit said:
...are you going to explain that?TheScreamingEagles said:
Tammy Wynette.Ishmael_X said:
Misspelling of name?TheScreamingEagles said:This is very easy, but what's the obvious link between The KLF and Hillary Clinton?
When Bill Clinton was running for President in 1992 and allegations that he was having lots of affairs, Hillary Clinton did an interview where she said
“You know, I’m not sitting here, some little woman standing by my man like Tammy Wynette,”
A reference to Tammy Wynette's seminal song, 'Stand by your man'
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-2016-60-minutes-1992-2142750 -
as singles I think I only have 3am, grim, justified and last train to go on it - are the others out there as singles?eek said:
Whitney joins the JAMS, Downtown or it's grim up north are all better (all Justified Ancients of Mu Mu rather than KLF tracks though).Scrapheap_as_was said:
on my jukebox....AndyJS said:The best thing the KLF ever did was Doctorin' The Tardis.
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A million quid, or twenty Euros.eek said:
Not quote a Million Quid - from memory they split it between the people who were there and I know at least one of them pocketed a grand...SeanT said:
THEY BURNED A MILLION QUIDTheScreamingEagles said:
The KLF are a truly awesome 80s/90s electronica band.tyson said:
What is KLF for an outsider?TheScreamingEagles said:I reckon if Hillary takes Tennessee at 3AM on November 9th, I reckon that'll be peak KLF on PB.
Here's some of their work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRA93KWL1eY
Literally. Then regretted it.
I have images of them now, in penurious late middle age, waking up in a cold sweat thinking:
Jesus, did I really burn a MILLION QUID?
Then realising that Yes, they did.0 -
It is the rise and fall of Clegg that still astonishes, the Cleggasm when he was the new Churchill and within months, he was having dog shit shoved through his letterbox.Jonathan said:
Just imagine where they'll be in five years! 0.2% Or will prime minister Farron be introducing the Euro?TheScreamingEagles said:'Kin hell, in the space of five years the Lib Dems went from holding the seat of Dunfermline and West Fife to a 4% share of the vote.
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Tammy Wynette of course divorced her man. More than once I think?TheScreamingEagles said:
Tammy Wynette did Justified and Ancient with The KLFTheWhiteRabbit said:
...are you going to explain that?TheScreamingEagles said:
Tammy Wynette.Ishmael_X said:
Misspelling of name?TheScreamingEagles said:This is very easy, but what's the obvious link between The KLF and Hillary Clinton?
When Bill Clinton was running for President in 1992 and allegations that he was having lots of affairs, Hillary Clinton did an interview where she said
“You know, I’m not sitting here, some little woman standing by my man like Tammy Wynette,”
A reference to Tammy Wynette's seminal song, 'Stand by your man'
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-2016-60-minutes-1992-2142750 -
SeanT said:
You must be new here. I have already confessed to beingIanB2 said:
Trying to turn discussion on a political forum around to the wonderful life you are having, night after night, isn't a sign of good psychological health, to be sure.tyson said:SeanT said:
I shan't tell you about my impending commission to visit the new Six Senses in Cambodia, on its own private islandIanB2 said:
http://www.traveldailymedia.com/237975/six-senses-to-debut-in-cambodia-with-luxury-island-resort/
In early November I will be, officially, the first British journalist to see the new amazing 3D Lascaux complex. Two days ahead of Anthony Peregrine, of the Sunday Times
I'm staying here
http://www.chateaudelatreyne.com/en/
A week later I'm flying to the Gourmet Escape Food Festival in Margaret River Australia,
etc etc etc
My life is ridiculous. It's sometimes lonely. But also fantastic. We do what we do, then we die.
You do realise Sean you share many things in common with The Donald. A bit of comradely advice......not good.... always using hyperbole to describe how great you are. It makes you look desperate or sad, or pathetic, or a combination of the aforementioned.
Alcoholic (albeit high functioning)
An ex crack addict
An ex heroin addict (who nearly died)
Dependent on Xanax
Bipolar
Idiotic
Sexually libertine with girls half my age
I'm not exactly DISGUISING my mental problems.
I hope you are not having some kind of Britney meltdown tonight.
I already feel tremendously guilty for pointing out Plato's obsessional behaviour the other day, and she seems to have disappeared.
Please Plato.....I really didn't mean it. Carry on as before.
And Cycle Free....I made a slight critique of her dense prose.....but CycleFree is probably the most knowledgeable living person on esoteric, arty Italian cinema....that I have encountered ever....
So SeanT......I love reading your posts. Genuinely.0 -
IcarusTheScreamingEagles said:
It is the rise and fall of Clegg that still astonishes, the Cleggasm when he was the new Churchill and within months, he was having dog shit shoved through his letterbox.Jonathan said:
Just imagine where they'll be in five years! 0.2% Or will prime minister Farron be introducing the Euro?TheScreamingEagles said:'Kin hell, in the space of five years the Lib Dems went from holding the seat of Dunfermline and West Fife to a 4% share of the vote.
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I'm fairly sure that Kylie Said To Jason was a single.Scrapheap_as_was said:
as singles I think I only have 3am, grim, justified and last train to go on it - are the others out there as singles?eek said:
Whitney joins the JAMS, Downtown or it's grim up north are all better (all Justified Ancients of Mu Mu rather than KLF tracks though).Scrapheap_as_was said:
on my jukebox....AndyJS said:The best thing the KLF ever did was Doctorin' The Tardis.
Doctoring The Tardis was a number one, albeit under the Timelords soubriquet.0 -
5 marriages, 2 divorces, and 2 annulmentsTheWhiteRabbit said:
Tammy Wynette of course divorced her man. More than once I think?TheScreamingEagles said:
Tammy Wynette did Justified and Ancient with The KLFTheWhiteRabbit said:
...are you going to explain that?TheScreamingEagles said:
Tammy Wynette.Ishmael_X said:
Misspelling of name?TheScreamingEagles said:This is very easy, but what's the obvious link between The KLF and Hillary Clinton?
When Bill Clinton was running for President in 1992 and allegations that he was having lots of affairs, Hillary Clinton did an interview where she said
“You know, I’m not sitting here, some little woman standing by my man like Tammy Wynette,”
A reference to Tammy Wynette's seminal song, 'Stand by your man'
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-2016-60-minutes-1992-2142750 -
Great, because the entire UK lives and works in London,Jonathan said:
For some, the UK wasn't broken. It didn't need fixing. London was successful. The success was spreading. The dice didn't have to be rolled.SeanT said:
I do sometimes have the same chilling feeling...... But it passes. For now.Jonathan said:
Bit like BrexitSeanT said:
THEY BURNED A MILLION QUIDTheScreamingEagles said:
The KLF are a truly awesome 80s/90s electronica band.tyson said:
What is KLF for an outsider?TheScreamingEagles said:I reckon if Hillary takes Tennessee at 3AM on November 9th, I reckon that'll be peak KLF on PB.
Here's some of their work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRA93KWL1eY
Literally. Then regretted it.
I have images of them now, in penurious late middle age, waking up in a cold sweat thinking:
Jesus, did I really burn a MILLION QUID?
Then realising that Yes, they did.
Oh,
Wait...0 -
Huh. That's funny. I was in Italy, Germany, France and Croatia at times over summer, and I had no problems with ATM.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Yes - big problems in Italy - tried 4 ATM'S at 4 banks and the last one paid out. My son and son in law both had difficulties with the Italian ATM'sGardenwalker said:
Very impressive.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Travel more. I have visited every European and Scandanavian country, been round the world seven times in the last 9 years, visited Antarctica and enjoyed three weeks in Italy this summer.Gardenwalker said:
Obviously you cannot defame a continent, I was talking figuratively. But if you think Taffys picture was accurate I suggest you travel more.Big_G_NorthWales said:
But why is it defamatoryGardenwalker said:
As a picture of Europe, it is positively Breitbartian.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Just as a matter of interest what is defamatory about 'Taffys' commentsGardenwalker said:
Keep going. European countries *love* to hear how shite they are from the dusty pits where they wait for apocalyptic fire to end.taffys said:
Yeah Europe. Over there they've REALLY got things sorted.
Edit: Deleted the inflammatory bits.
Seriously though, this image you have of Europe is verging on defamatory.
Don't worry, you won't be beset by a PEGIDA mob fleeing a collapsing financial system at Calais.
Does that fit the bill for you
Did you see any massed PEGIDA marches?
Have any trouble withdrawing cash from the ATMs in Europe's "essentially collapsed" financial system?
Of course not.
In fact you enjoyed an undoubtedly very pleasant three weeks in Italy, a country which despite all its troubles is still very liveable.
My concern is that the kind of delusional talk from Taffy above fosters the worst kind of Brexit. Culturally insular and economically disastrous. Whatever happens, Europe is our neighbourhood. We need to work with them, not pour bile on them.
Whereas just last week, in London, I tried an ATM that was "down". I moved on to the next machine.
But I did not conclude that there was a run on the financial system, the pound's recent plunge notwithstanding.
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I've got a Joy Division themed thread nearly finished.
Headline is
'Gove, Gove will tear us apart' and also features the sub headline 'She's lost control'0 -
For some, but not for the majorityJonathan said:
For some, the UK wasn't broken. It didn't need fixing. London was successful. The success was spreading. The dice didn't have to be rolled.SeanT said:
I do sometimes have the same chilling feeling...... But it passes. For now.Jonathan said:
Bit like BrexitSeanT said:
THEY BURNED A MILLION QUIDTheScreamingEagles said:
The KLF are a truly awesome 80s/90s electronica band.tyson said:
What is KLF for an outsider?TheScreamingEagles said:I reckon if Hillary takes Tennessee at 3AM on November 9th, I reckon that'll be peak KLF on PB.
Here's some of their work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRA93KWL1eY
Literally. Then regretted it.
I have images of them now, in penurious late middle age, waking up in a cold sweat thinking:
Jesus, did I really burn a MILLION QUID?
Then realising that Yes, they did.0 -
When London succeeds, Britain succeeds.Mortimer said:
Great, because the entire UK lives and works in London,Jonathan said:
For some, the UK wasn't broken. It didn't need fixing. London was successful. The success was spreading. The dice didn't have to be rolled.SeanT said:
I do sometimes have the same chilling feeling...... But it passes. For now.Jonathan said:
Bit like BrexitSeanT said:
THEY BURNED A MILLION QUIDTheScreamingEagles said:
The KLF are a truly awesome 80s/90s electronica band.tyson said:
What is KLF for an outsider?TheScreamingEagles said:I reckon if Hillary takes Tennessee at 3AM on November 9th, I reckon that'll be peak KLF on PB.
Here's some of their work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRA93KWL1eY
Literally. Then regretted it.
I have images of them now, in penurious late middle age, waking up in a cold sweat thinking:
Jesus, did I really burn a MILLION QUID?
Then realising that Yes, they did.
Oh,
Wait...
When London fails. Britain fails.
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self centred toshJonathan said:
When London succeeds, Britain succeeds.Mortimer said:
Great, because the entire UK lives and works in London,Jonathan said:
For some, the UK wasn't broken. It didn't need fixing. London was successful. The success was spreading. The dice didn't have to be rolled.SeanT said:
I do sometimes have the same chilling feeling...... But it passes. For now.Jonathan said:
Bit like BrexitSeanT said:
THEY BURNED A MILLION QUIDTheScreamingEagles said:
The KLF are a truly awesome 80s/90s electronica band.tyson said:
What is KLF for an outsider?TheScreamingEagles said:I reckon if Hillary takes Tennessee at 3AM on November 9th, I reckon that'll be peak KLF on PB.
Here's some of their work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRA93KWL1eY
Literally. Then regretted it.
I have images of them now, in penurious late middle age, waking up in a cold sweat thinking:
Jesus, did I really burn a MILLION QUID?
Then realising that Yes, they did.
Oh,
Wait...
When London fails. Britain fails.0 -
Front page of The Times looks interesting for us punters, as the government cracks down on gambling companies.
Looks like they are stopping the cancelling of bets/palpable error excuses among other things AND the closing of accounts/stake restrictions.
https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/7892147817397616640 -
That's a very insightful and intelligent point you have just madeMortimer said:
Great, because the entire UK lives and works in London,Jonathan said:
For some, the UK wasn't broken. It didn't need fixing. London was successful. The success was spreading. The dice didn't have to be rolled.SeanT said:
I do sometimes have the same chilling feeling...... But it passes. For now.Jonathan said:
Bit like BrexitSeanT said:
THEY BURNED A MILLION QUIDTheScreamingEagles said:
The KLF are a truly awesome 80s/90s electronica band.tyson said:
What is KLF for an outsider?TheScreamingEagles said:I reckon if Hillary takes Tennessee at 3AM on November 9th, I reckon that'll be peak KLF on PB.
Here's some of their work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRA93KWL1eY
Literally. Then regretted it.
I have images of them now, in penurious late middle age, waking up in a cold sweat thinking:
Jesus, did I really burn a MILLION QUID?
Then realising that Yes, they did.
Oh,
Wait...
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Ummm; really?Big_G_NorthWales said:Yes - big problems in Italy - tried 4 ATM'S at 4 banks and the last one paid out. My son and son in law both had difficulties with the Italian ATM's
The Italian banks aren't going to have any problems paying depositors. (Junior bond holders of BMPS, or some of the smaller Populare may not be so lucky.)
But one thing needs to be put in context. Household debt to GDP (all off the top of my head but roughly right):
UK / Denmark / Sweden - 180%
Netherlands / Spain / Ireland - 100%
Germany / France - 60%
Italy - 50%
Yes, there are some bad debt problems. But the scale of them is limited to what is owed. And the Italians simply don't owe very much. It's why the entire Italian banking system can be bailed out for €35bn, which is barely a drop in the bucket compared to Northern Rock alone.0 -
The solution was not to level down, but build on success and share it more widely.Alanbrooke said:
For some, but not for the majorityJonathan said:
For some, the UK wasn't broken. It didn't need fixing. London was successful. The success was spreading. The dice didn't have to be rolled.SeanT said:
I do sometimes have the same chilling feeling...... But it passes. For now.Jonathan said:
Bit like BrexitSeanT said:
THEY BURNED A MILLION QUIDTheScreamingEagles said:
The KLF are a truly awesome 80s/90s electronica band.tyson said:
What is KLF for an outsider?TheScreamingEagles said:I reckon if Hillary takes Tennessee at 3AM on November 9th, I reckon that'll be peak KLF on PB.
Here's some of their work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRA93KWL1eY
Literally. Then regretted it.
I have images of them now, in penurious late middle age, waking up in a cold sweat thinking:
Jesus, did I really burn a MILLION QUID?
Then realising that Yes, they did.0 -
A temporary constellation of forces deceived a majority into aligning with the fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists, but it will pass.Alanbrooke said:
For some, but not for the majorityJonathan said:
For some, the UK wasn't broken. It didn't need fixing. London was successful. The success was spreading. The dice didn't have to be rolled.SeanT said:
I do sometimes have the same chilling feeling...... But it passes. For now.Jonathan said:
Bit like BrexitSeanT said:
THEY BURNED A MILLION QUIDTheScreamingEagles said:
The KLF are a truly awesome 80s/90s electronica band.tyson said:
What is KLF for an outsider?TheScreamingEagles said:I reckon if Hillary takes Tennessee at 3AM on November 9th, I reckon that'll be peak KLF on PB.
Here's some of their work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRA93KWL1eY
Literally. Then regretted it.
I have images of them now, in penurious late middle age, waking up in a cold sweat thinking:
Jesus, did I really burn a MILLION QUID?
Then realising that Yes, they did.0 -
China and Japan are not too rosy either, I believe...rcs1000 said:
Ummm; really?Big_G_NorthWales said:Yes - big problems in Italy - tried 4 ATM'S at 4 banks and the last one paid out. My son and son in law both had difficulties with the Italian ATM's
The Italian banks aren't going to have any problems paying depositors. (Junior bond holders of BMPS, or some of the smaller Populare may not be so lucky.)
But one thing needs to be put in context. Household debt to GDP (all off the top of my head but roughly right):
UK / Denmark / Sweden - 180%
Netherlands / Spain / Ireland - 100%
Germany / France - 60%
Italy - 50%
Yes, there are some bad debt problems. But the scale of them is limited to what is owed. And the Italians simply don't owe very much. It's why the entire Italian banking system can be bailed out for €35bn, which is barely a drop in the bucket compared to Northern Rock alone.0 -
got the 12 inch and 7 inch of the timelords... first on at Xmas as everyone else hates it - my traditional start to xmas day celebsAlastairMeeks said:
I'm fairly sure that Kylie Said To Jason was a single.Scrapheap_as_was said:
as singles I think I only have 3am, grim, justified and last train to go on it - are the others out there as singles?eek said:
Whitney joins the JAMS, Downtown or it's grim up north are all better (all Justified Ancients of Mu Mu rather than KLF tracks though).Scrapheap_as_was said:
on my jukebox....AndyJS said:The best thing the KLF ever did was Doctorin' The Tardis.
Doctoring The Tardis was a number one, albeit under the Timelords soubriquet.0 -
At our Rome Airport Hotel we were told that they admired our guts at leaving the EU and on the same day the Union Jack replaced the EU flag on the Genoa beaches.Gardenwalker said:
Huh. That's funny. I was in Italy, Germany, France and Croatia at times over summer, and I had no problems with ATM.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Yes - big problems in Italy - tried 4 ATM'S at 4 banks and the last one paid out. My son and son in law both had difficulties with the Italian ATM'sGardenwalker said:
Very impressive.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Travel more. I have visited every European and Scandanavian country, been round the world seven times in the last 9 years, visited Antarctica and enjoyed three weeks in Italy this summer.Gardenwalker said:
Obviously you cannot defame a continent, I was talking figuratively. But if you think Taffys picture was accurate I suggest you travel more.Big_G_NorthWales said:
But why is it defamatoryGardenwalker said:
As a picture of Europe, it is positively Breitbartian.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Just as a matter of interest what is defamatory about 'Taffys' commentsGardenwalker said:
Keep going. European countries *love* to hear how shite they are from the dusty pits where they wait for apocalyptic fire to end.taffys said:
Yeah Europe. Over there they've REALLY got things sorted.
Edit: Deleted the inflammatory bits.
Seriously though, this image you have of Europe is verging on defamatory.
Don't worry, you won't be beset by a PEGIDA mob fleeing a collapsing financial system at Calais.
Does that fit the bill for you
Did you see any massed PEGIDA marches?
Have any trouble withdrawing cash from the ATMs in Europe's "essentially collapsed" financial system?
Of course not.
In fact you enjoyed an undoubtedly very pleasant three weeks in Italy, a country which despite all its troubles is still very liveable.
My concern is that the kind of delusional talk from Taffy above fosters the worst kind of Brexit. Culturally insular and economically disastrous. Whatever happens, Europe is our neighbourhood. We need to work with them, not pour bile on them.
Whereas just last week, in London, I tried an ATM that was "down". I moved on to the next machine.
But I did not conclude that there was a run on the financial system, the pound's recent plunge notwithstanding.0 -
TheScreamingEagles said:
I've got a Joy Division themed thread nearly finished.
Headline is
'Gove, Gove will tear us apart' and also features the sub headline 'She's lost control'
I think if you never allowed me to listen to Joy Division or the Stone Roses again my life would be utterly diminished.
Joy Division and the Roses are my goto's for any of life's shortcomings...0 -
you really havent understood why you lost and until you do you wont make any progress towards what you wantwilliamglenn said:
A temporary constellation of forces deceived a majority into aligning with the fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists, but it will pass.Alanbrooke said:
For some, but not for the majorityJonathan said:
For some, the UK wasn't broken. It didn't need fixing. London was successful. The success was spreading. The dice didn't have to be rolled.SeanT said:
I do sometimes have the same chilling feeling...... But it passes. For now.Jonathan said:
Bit like BrexitSeanT said:
THEY BURNED A MILLION QUIDTheScreamingEagles said:
The KLF are a truly awesome 80s/90s electronica band.tyson said:
What is KLF for an outsider?TheScreamingEagles said:I reckon if Hillary takes Tennessee at 3AM on November 9th, I reckon that'll be peak KLF on PB.
Here's some of their work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRA93KWL1eY
Literally. Then regretted it.
I have images of them now, in penurious late middle age, waking up in a cold sweat thinking:
Jesus, did I really burn a MILLION QUID?
Then realising that Yes, they did.0 -
Hopefully by this time next year, it'll have been called off by a beleaguered May administration, collapsing under the weight of its own contradictions.williamglenn said:
A temporary constellation of forces deceived a majority into aligning with the fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists, but it will pass.Alanbrooke said:
For some, but not for the majorityJonathan said:
For some, the UK wasn't broken. It didn't need fixing. London was successful. The success was spreading. The dice didn't have to be rolled.SeanT said:
I do sometimes have the same chilling feeling...... But it passes. For now.Jonathan said:
Bit like BrexitSeanT said:
THEY BURNED A MILLION QUIDTheScreamingEagles said:
The KLF are a truly awesome 80s/90s electronica band.tyson said:
What is KLF for an outsider?TheScreamingEagles said:I reckon if Hillary takes Tennessee at 3AM on November 9th, I reckon that'll be peak KLF on PB.
Here's some of their work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRA93KWL1eY
Literally. Then regretted it.
I have images of them now, in penurious late middle age, waking up in a cold sweat thinking:
Jesus, did I really burn a MILLION QUID?
Then realising that Yes, they did.
They'll be making horror movies about it.
Brexit: I Know What You Did Last Summer.0 -
well given the absolute opposite had been the norm for over 2 decades why on earth do you think people would vote for a continuation of the satus quo ?Jonathan said:
The solution was not to level down, but build on success and share it more widely.Alanbrooke said:
For some, but not for the majorityJonathan said:
For some, the UK wasn't broken. It didn't need fixing. London was successful. The success was spreading. The dice didn't have to be rolled.SeanT said:
I do sometimes have the same chilling feeling...... But it passes. For now.Jonathan said:
Bit like BrexitSeanT said:
THEY BURNED A MILLION QUIDTheScreamingEagles said:
The KLF are a truly awesome 80s/90s electronica band.tyson said:
What is KLF for an outsider?TheScreamingEagles said:I reckon if Hillary takes Tennessee at 3AM on November 9th, I reckon that'll be peak KLF on PB.
Here's some of their work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRA93KWL1eY
Literally. Then regretted it.
I have images of them now, in penurious late middle age, waking up in a cold sweat thinking:
Jesus, did I really burn a MILLION QUID?
Then realising that Yes, they did.0 -
Eh?Alanbrooke said:
self centred toshJonathan said:
When London succeeds, Britain succeeds.Mortimer said:
Great, because the entire UK lives and works in London,Jonathan said:
For some, the UK wasn't broken. It didn't need fixing. London was successful. The success was spreading. The dice didn't have to be rolled.SeanT said:
I do sometimes have the same chilling feeling...... But it passes. For now.Jonathan said:
Bit like BrexitSeanT said:
THEY BURNED A MILLION QUIDTheScreamingEagles said:
The KLF are a truly awesome 80s/90s electronica band.tyson said:
What is KLF for an outsider?TheScreamingEagles said:I reckon if Hillary takes Tennessee at 3AM on November 9th, I reckon that'll be peak KLF on PB.
Here's some of their work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRA93KWL1eY
Literally. Then regretted it.
I have images of them now, in penurious late middle age, waking up in a cold sweat thinking:
Jesus, did I really burn a MILLION QUID?
Then realising that Yes, they did.
Oh,
Wait...
When London fails. Britain fails.
London is the capital. It's our country's prize asset. A remarkable city. Britain needs it to thrive.
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NEW THREAD
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transmissionTheScreamingEagles said:I've got a Joy Division themed thread nearly finished.
Headline is
'Gove, Gove will tear us apart' and also features the sub headline 'She's lost control'
candidate
she's lost control
wilderness
disorder
insight
I remember nothing
novelty
new dawn fades
That thread could be a record and almost writes itself0 -
Italy is by far the most Euro-sceptic country (as in sceptical of the Euro).Big_G_NorthWales said:
At our Rome Airport Hotel we were told that they admired our guts at leaving the EU and on the same day the Union Jack replaced the EU flag on the Genoa beaches.
But even so, net support is still +25 or so, (compared to something like +80 in the Netherlands and Ireland)0 -
Up here in the Midlands we dont give a fk about London and see it as a huge parasite that sucks life out of the regions. The further North you go the stronger that view becomes.Jonathan said:
Eh?Alanbrooke said:
self centred toshJonathan said:
When London succeeds, Britain succeeds.Mortimer said:
Great, because the entire UK lives and works in London,Jonathan said:
For some, the UK wasn't broken. It didn't need fixing. London was successful. The success was spreading. The dice didn't have to be rolled.SeanT said:
I do sometimes have the same chilling feeling...... But it passes. For now.Jonathan said:
Bit like BrexitSeanT said:
THEY BURNED A MILLION QUIDTheScreamingEagles said:
The KLF are a truly awesome 80s/90s electronica band.tyson said:
What is KLF for an outsider?TheScreamingEagles said:I reckon if Hillary takes Tennessee at 3AM on November 9th, I reckon that'll be peak KLF on PB.
Here's some of their work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRA93KWL1eY
Literally. Then regretted it.
I have images of them now, in penurious late middle age, waking up in a cold sweat thinking:
Jesus, did I really burn a MILLION QUID?
Then realising that Yes, they did.
Oh,
Wait...
When London fails. Britain fails.
London is the capital. It's our country's prize asset. A remarkable city. Britain needs it to thrive.
There are more people in the regions than London. Travel more.0 -
Self defeating bullshit.Alanbrooke said:
Up here in the Midlands we dont give a fk about London and see it as a huge parasite that sucks life out of the regions. The further North you go the stronger that view becomes.Jonathan said:
Eh?Alanbrooke said:
self centred toshJonathan said:
When London succeeds, Britain succeeds.Mortimer said:
Great, because the entire UK lives and works in London,Jonathan said:
For some, the UK wasn't broken. It didn't need fixing. London was successful. The success was spreading. The dice didn't have to be rolled.SeanT said:
I do sometimes have the same chilling feeling...... But it passes. For now.Jonathan said:
Bit like BrexitSeanT said:
THEY BURNED A MILLION QUIDTheScreamingEagles said:
The KLF are a truly awesome 80s/90s electronica band.tyson said:
What is KLF for an outsider?TheScreamingEagles said:I reckon if Hillary takes Tennessee at 3AM on November 9th, I reckon that'll be peak KLF on PB.
Here's some of their work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRA93KWL1eY
Literally. Then regretted it.
I have images of them now, in penurious late middle age, waking up in a cold sweat thinking:
Jesus, did I really burn a MILLION QUID?
Then realising that Yes, they did.
Oh,
Wait...
When London fails. Britain fails.
London is the capital. It's our country's prize asset. A remarkable city. Britain needs it to thrive.
There are more people in the regions than London. Travel more.0 -
Mortimer made a really good point though that is not helped on bit by your answer. People up north found southerners arrogant, and when the disparity becomes greater.....Jonathan said:
When London succeeds, Britain succeeds.Mortimer said:
Great, because the entire UK lives and works in London,Jonathan said:
For some, the UK wasn't broken. It didn't need fixing. London was successful. The success was spreading. The dice didn't have to be rolled.SeanT said:
I do sometimes have the same chilling feeling...... But it passes. For now.Jonathan said:
Bit like BrexitSeanT said:
THEY BURNED A MILLION QUIDTheScreamingEagles said:
The KLF are a truly awesome 80s/90s electronica band.tyson said:
What is KLF for an outsider?TheScreamingEagles said:I reckon if Hillary takes Tennessee at 3AM on November 9th, I reckon that'll be peak KLF on PB.
Here's some of their work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRA93KWL1eY
Literally. Then regretted it.
I have images of them now, in penurious late middle age, waking up in a cold sweat thinking:
Jesus, did I really burn a MILLION QUID?
Then realising that Yes, they did.
Oh,
Wait...
When London fails. Britain fails.
Mortimer's post made me realise why people like my brother voted Brexit.....
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I am not surprised!Big_G_NorthWales said:
At our Rome Airport Hotel we were told that they admired our guts at leaving the EU and on the same day the Union Jack replaced the EU flag on the Genoa beaches.Gardenwalker said:
Huh. That's funny. I was in Italy, Germany, France and Croatia at times over summer, and I had no problems with ATM.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Yes - big problems in Italy - tried 4 ATM'S at 4 banks and the last one paid out. My son and son in law both had difficulties with the Italian ATM'sGardenwalker said:
Very impressive.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Travel more. I have visited every European and Scandanavian country, been round the world seven times in the last 9 years, visited Antarctica and enjoyed three weeks in Italy this summer.Gardenwalker said:
Obviously you cannot defame a continent, I was talking figuratively. But if you think Taffys picture was accurate I suggest you travel more.Big_G_NorthWales said:
But why is it defamatoryGardenwalker said:
As a picture of Europe, it is positively Breitbartian.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Just as a matter of interest what is defamatory about 'Taffys' commentsGardenwalker said:
Keep going. European countries *love* to hear how shite they are from the dusty pits where they wait for apocalyptic fire to end.taffys said:
Yeah Europe. Over there they've REALLY got things sorted.
Edit: Deleted the inflammatory bits.
Seriously though, this image you have of Europe is verging on defamatory.
Don't worry, you won't be beset by a PEGIDA mob fleeing a collapsing financial system at Calais.
Does that fit the bill for you
Did you see any massed PEGIDA marches?
Have any trouble withdrawing cash from the ATMs in Europe's "essentially collapsed" financial system?
Whereas just last week, in London, I tried an ATM that was "down". I moved on to the next machine.
But I did not conclude that there was a run on the financial system, the pound's recent plunge notwithstanding.
After all, it must be difficult putting food on the table amid collapsing banks and radioactive PEGIDA zombies armed with machine guns, firing off rounds willy nilly as valuable quattrocento frescoes crumble into dust.
Did you tell them, "I was Remain, actually"?0 -
Not in the least, your smug we should be grateful for London crap cuts no ice outside the South East. The fact that we are interested in our own welfare and not Londons appears to be a shock to you. In simple terms thats why you lost, you have no feel for life outside Sussex,Jonathan said:
Self defeating bullshit.Alanbrooke said:
Up here in the Midlands we dont give a fk about London and see it as a huge parasite that sucks life out of the regions. The further North you go the stronger that view becomes.Jonathan said:
Eh?Alanbrooke said:
self centred toshJonathan said:
When London succeeds, Britain succeeds.Mortimer said:
Great, because the entire UK lives and works in London,Jonathan said:
For some, the UK wasn't broken. It didn't need fixing. London was successful. The success was spreading. The dice didn't have to be rolled.SeanT said:
I do sometimes have the same chilling feeling...... But it passes. For now.Jonathan said:
Bit like BrexitSeanT said:
THEY BURNED A MILLION QUIDTheScreamingEagles said:
The KLF are a truly awesome 80s/90s electronica band.tyson said:
What is KLF for an outsider?TheScreamingEagles said:I reckon if Hillary takes Tennessee at 3AM on November 9th, I reckon that'll be peak KLF on PB.
Here's some of their work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRA93KWL1eY
Literally. Then regretted it.
I have images of them now, in penurious late middle age, waking up in a cold sweat thinking:
Jesus, did I really burn a MILLION QUID?
Then realising that Yes, they did.
Oh,
Wait...
When London fails. Britain fails.
London is the capital. It's our country's prize asset. A remarkable city. Britain needs it to thrive.
There are more people in the regions than London. Travel more.
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You seem to be carrying a sack of spuds on your shoulder. Sad.Alanbrooke said:
Not in the least, your smug we should be grateful for London crap cuts no ice outside the South East. The fact that we are interested in our own welfare and not Londons appears to be a shock to you. In simple terms thats why you lost, you have no feel for life outside Sussex,Jonathan said:
Self defeating bullshit.Alanbrooke said:
Up here in the Midlands we dont give a fk about London and see it as a huge parasite that sucks life out of the regions. The further North you go the stronger that view becomes.Jonathan said:
Eh?Alanbrooke said:
self centred toshJonathan said:
When London succeeds, Britain succeeds.Mortimer said:
Great, because the entire UK lives and works in London,Jonathan said:
For some, the UK wasn't broken. It didn't need fixing. London was successful. The success was spreading. The dice didn't have to be rolled.SeanT said:
I do sometimes have the same chilling feeling...... But it passes. For now.Jonathan said:
Bit like BrexitSeanT said:
THEY BURNED A MILLION QUIDTheScreamingEagles said:
The KLF are a truly awesome 80s/90s electronica band.tyson said:
What is KLF for an outsider?TheScreamingEagles said:I reckon if Hillary takes Tennessee at 3AM on November 9th, I reckon that'll be peak KLF on PB.
Here's some of their work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRA93KWL1eY
Literally. Then regretted it.
I have images of them now, in penurious late middle age, waking up in a cold sweat thinking:
Jesus, did I really burn a MILLION QUID?
Then realising that Yes, they did.
Oh,
Wait...
When London fails. Britain fails.
London is the capital. It's our country's prize asset. A remarkable city. Britain needs it to thrive.
There are more people in the regions than London. Travel more.0 -
Cop out - you still just canht get what happens outside the south eastJonathan said:
You seem to be carrying a sack of spuds on your shoulder. Sad.Alanbrooke said:
Not in the least, your smug we should be grateful for London crap cuts no ice outside the South East. The fact that we are interested in our own welfare and not Londons appears to be a shock to you. In simple terms thats why you lost, you have no feel for life outside Sussex,Jonathan said:
Self defeating bullshit.Alanbrooke said:
Up here in the Midlands we dont give a fk about London and see it as a huge parasite that sucks life out of the regions. The further North you go the stronger that view becomes.Jonathan said:
Eh?Alanbrooke said:
self centred toshJonathan said:
When London succeeds, Britain succeeds.Mortimer said:
Great, because the entire UK lives and works in London,Jonathan said:
For some, the UK wasn't broken. It didn't need fixing. London was successful. The success was spreading. The dice didn't have to be rolled.SeanT said:
I do sometimes have the same chilling feeling...... But it passes. For now.Jonathan said:
Bit like BrexitSeanT said:
THEY BURNED A MILLION QUIDTheScreamingEagles said:
The KLF are a truly awesome 80s/90s electronica band.tyson said:
What is KLF for an outsider?TheScreamingEagles said:I reckon if Hillary takes Tennessee at 3AM on November 9th, I reckon that'll be peak KLF on PB.
Here's some of their work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRA93KWL1eY
Literally. Then regretted it.
I have images of them now, in penurious late middle age, waking up in a cold sweat thinking:
Jesus, did I really burn a MILLION QUID?
Then realising that Yes, they did.
Oh,
Wait...
When London fails. Britain fails.
London is the capital. It's our country's prize asset. A remarkable city. Britain needs it to thrive.
There are more people in the regions than London. Travel more.
A so called Labour man who cant get why Labour areas outsiude the SE voted heavily for Leave.
Bury your head, but you have no idea of life outside your own area0 -
Give it a rest. New thread and all that.Alanbrooke said:
Cop out - you still just canht get what happens outside the south eastJonathan said:
You seem to be carrying a sack of spuds on your shoulder. Sad.Alanbrooke said:
Not in the least, your smug we should be grateful for London crap cuts no ice outside the South East. The fact that we are interested in our own welfare and not Londons appears to be a shock to you. In simple terms thats why you lost, you have no feel for life outside Sussex,Jonathan said:
Self defeating bullshit.Alanbrooke said:
Up here in the Midlands we dont give a fk about London and see it as a huge parasite that sucks life out of the regions. The further North you go the stronger that view becomes.Jonathan said:
Eh?Alanbrooke said:
self centred toshJonathan said:
When London succeeds, Britain succeeds.Mortimer said:
Great, because the entire UK lives and works in London,Jonathan said:
For some, the UK wasn't broken. It didn't need fixing. London was successful. The success was spreading. The dice didn't have to be rolled.SeanT said:
I do sometimes have the same chilling feeling...... But it passes. For now.Jonathan said:
Bit like BrexitSeanT said:
THEY BURNED A MILLION QUIDTheScreamingEagles said:
The KLF are a truly awesome 80s/90s electronica band.tyson said:
What is KLF for an outsider?TheScreamingEagles said:I reckon if Hillary takes Tennessee at 3AM on November 9th, I reckon that'll be peak KLF on PB.
Here's some of their work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRA93KWL1eY
Literally. Then regretted it.
I have images of them now, in penurious late middle age, waking up in a cold sweat thinking:
Jesus, did I really burn a MILLION QUID?
Then realising that Yes, they did.
Oh,
Wait...
When London fails. Britain fails.
London is the capital. It's our country's prize asset. A remarkable city. Britain needs it to thrive.
There are more people in the regions than London. Travel more.
A so called Labour man who cant get why Labour areas outsiude the SE voted heavily for Leave.
Bury your head, but you have no idea of life outside your own area0 -
People mostly ignore London here in East Anglia...Alanbrooke said:
Not in the least, your smug we should be grateful for London crap cuts no ice outside the South East. The fact that we are interested in our own welfare and not Londons appears to be a shock to you. In simple terms thats why you lost, you have no feel for life outside Sussex,Jonathan said:
Self defeating bullshit.Alanbrooke said:
Up here in the Midlands we dont give a fk about London and see it as a huge parasite that sucks life out of the regions. The further North you go the stronger that view becomes.Jonathan said:
Eh?Alanbrooke said:
self centred toshJonathan said:
When London succeeds, Britain succeeds.Mortimer said:
Great, because the entire UK lives and works in London,Jonathan said:
For some, the UK wasn't broken. It didn't need fixing. London was successful. The success was spreading. The dice didn't have to be rolled.SeanT said:
I do sometimes have the same chilling feeling...... But it passes. For now.Jonathan said:
Bit like BrexitSeanT said:
THEY BURNED A MILLION QUIDTheScreamingEagles said:
The KLF are a truly awesome 80s/90s electronica band.tyson said:
What is KLF for an outsider?TheScreamingEagles said:I reckon if Hillary takes Tennessee at 3AM on November 9th, I reckon that'll be peak KLF on PB.
Here's some of their work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRA93KWL1eY
Literally. Then regretted it.
I have images of them now, in penurious late middle age, waking up in a cold sweat thinking:
Jesus, did I really burn a MILLION QUID?
Then realising that Yes, they did.
Oh,
Wait...
When London fails. Britain fails.
London is the capital. It's our country's prize asset. A remarkable city. Britain needs it to thrive.
There are more people in the regions than London. Travel more.0 -
Yes he does. Loss of a confidence vote in the Lords does not trigger a general election. The Fixed Term Parliament Act is clear that it needs loss of a confidence vote in the Commons.rcs1000 said:
He doesn't need to. If the Article 50 Enabling Bill is a vote of confidence, they either pass it (job done), or she goes to the country, and gets a mega majority off the back of the Lords (and Labour) trying to subvert the will of the people.justin124 said:
But he could force her to table a formal No Confidence vote in her own Government - which,in turn, could lead to the constitutional uncertainty discussed here a few days ago.rcs1000 said:
So, he could delay the invocation of Article 50 (which, by the way, he supports) for a couple of weeks, at the expense of seeing himself lose half his seats.justin124 said:But even in those circumstances May would require Corbyn's co-operation re-the timing of an election. He could still frustrate her plans for at least a few weeks.
The Lords would not delay an Article 50 Bill; nor would the Commons. She would either have a fabulous mandate, or a large majority.
Instead, she's made a point of principle out of something she'd win by a mile anyway.
Not only does it make it clear how weak she is, but it also endangers Brexit. Dumb. Dumb. Dumb.
The Lords would not be able to block it post GE, as it would have been in the manifesto.0
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