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  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    The best thing the KLF ever did was Doctorin' The Tardis.
  • Ishmael_XIshmael_X Posts: 3,664

    This is very easy, but what's the obvious link between The KLF and Hillary Clinton?

    Misspelling of name?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,732

    'Kin hell, in the space of five years the Lib Dems went from holding the seat of Dunfermline and West Fife to a 4% share of the vote.

    gadzooks!
  • Ishmael_X said:

    This is very easy, but what's the obvious link between The KLF and Hillary Clinton?

    Misspelling of name?
    Tammy Wynette.
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340

    Ishmael_X said:

    This is very easy, but what's the obvious link between The KLF and Hillary Clinton?

    Misspelling of name?
    Tammy Wynette.
    Somehow Melania Trump has scrubbed that memory from my mind,
  • AndyJS said:

    The best thing the KLF ever did was Doctorin' The Tardis.

    on my jukebox....
  • Ishmael_XIshmael_X Posts: 3,664

    Ishmael_X said:

    This is very easy, but what's the obvious link between The KLF and Hillary Clinton?

    Misspelling of name?
    Tammy Wynette.
    My answer works too though (kopyright liberation front).
  • taffys said:

    ''So, keep taking your brief from the Mail and "the rise of a new Britain" by all means, but I suspect that with Scotland restive, and the economy overall in the toilet, that a whole load of people will be rowing back from Brexit triumphalism as fast as they can.''

    Must be great to live in Europe. Are you in one of those parts where youth unemployment is close to 50%? Or in one where the banking system has essentially collapsed? Or when with high racial tensions? Or one where it seems terror plots are thwarted on a daily basis? or one with massed PEGIDA marches? Or one where the far right is sweeping the towns?

    Yeah Europe. Over there they've REALLY got things sorted.

    Keep going. European countries *love* to hear how shite they are from the dusty pits where they wait for apocalyptic fire to end.

    Edit: Deleted the inflammatory bits.

    Seriously though, this image you have of Europe is verging on defamatory.
    Just as a matter of interest what is defamatory about 'Taffys' comments
    As a picture of Europe, it is positively Breitbartian.
    But why is it defamatory
    Obviously you cannot defame a continent, I was talking figuratively. But if you think Taffys picture was accurate I suggest you travel more.

    Don't worry, you won't be beset by a PEGIDA mob fleeing a collapsing financial system at Calais.
    Travel more. I have visited every European and Scandanavian country, been round the world seven times in the last 9 years, visited Antarctica and enjoyed three weeks in Italy this summer.

    Does that fit the bill for you
    Very impressive.

    Did you see any massed PEGIDA marches?
    Have any trouble withdrawing cash from the ATMs in Europe's "essentially collapsed" financial system?

    Of course not.

    In fact you enjoyed an undoubtedly very pleasant three weeks in Italy, a country which despite all its troubles is still very liveable.

    My concern is that the kind of delusional talk from Taffy above fosters the worst kind of Brexit. Culturally insular and economically disastrous. Whatever happens, Europe is our neighbourhood. We need to work with them, not pour bile on them.

    Yes - big problems in Italy - tried 4 ATM'S at 4 banks and the last one paid out. My son and son in law both had difficulties with the Italian ATM's
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 21,471

    'Kin hell, in the space of five years the Lib Dems went from holding the seat of Dunfermline and West Fife to a 4% share of the vote.

    Just imagine where they'll be in five years! 0.2% Or will prime minister Farron be introducing the Euro?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,179
    AndyJS said:

    The best thing the KLF ever did was Doctorin' The Tardis.

    Who would Bill Drummond be without Julian Cope?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuDmjZfa_Z0
  • TomsToms Posts: 2,478
    edited October 2016
    Off topically speaking, Irish Radio RTE 1 on long wave is often quite old-fashioned and civilised.
  • Ishmael_X said:

    This is very easy, but what's the obvious link between The KLF and Hillary Clinton?

    Misspelling of name?
    Tammy Wynette.
    ...are you going to explain that?
  • Ishmael_X said:

    This is very easy, but what's the obvious link between The KLF and Hillary Clinton?

    Misspelling of name?
    Tammy Wynette.
    Somehow Melania Trump has scrubbed that memory from my mind,
    Well Melania Trump is seared in the memories of many men.
  • Ishmael_X said:

    Ishmael_X said:

    This is very easy, but what's the obvious link between The KLF and Hillary Clinton?

    Misspelling of name?
    Tammy Wynette.
    My answer works too though (kopyright liberation front).
    It does
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 21,471
    SeanT said:

    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    tyson said:

    I reckon if Hillary takes Tennessee at 3AM on November 9th, I reckon that'll be peak KLF on PB.

    What is KLF for an outsider?

    The KLF are a truly awesome 80s/90s electronica band.

    Here's some of their work

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRA93KWL1eY
    THEY BURNED A MILLION QUID

    Literally. Then regretted it.

    I have images of them now, in penurious late middle age, waking up in a cold sweat thinking:

    Jesus, did I really burn a MILLION QUID?

    Then realising that Yes, they did.
    Bit like Brexit
    I do sometimes have the same chilling feeling...... But it passes. For now.
    For some, the UK wasn't broken. It didn't need fixing. London was successful. The success was spreading. The dice didn't have to be rolled.
  • eekeek Posts: 27,939

    AndyJS said:

    The best thing the KLF ever did was Doctorin' The Tardis.

    on my jukebox....
    Whitney joins the JAMS, Downtown or it's grim up north are all better (all Justified Ancients of Mu Mu rather than KLF tracks though).
  • eekeek Posts: 27,939
    SeanT said:

    tyson said:

    I reckon if Hillary takes Tennessee at 3AM on November 9th, I reckon that'll be peak KLF on PB.

    What is KLF for an outsider?

    The KLF are a truly awesome 80s/90s electronica band.

    Here's some of their work

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRA93KWL1eY
    THEY BURNED A MILLION QUID

    Literally. Then regretted it.

    I have images of them now, in penurious late middle age, waking up in a cold sweat thinking:

    Jesus, did I really burn a MILLION QUID?

    Then realising that Yes, they did.
    Not quote a Million Quid - from memory they split it between the people who were there and I know at least one of them pocketed a grand...
  • Ishmael_X said:

    This is very easy, but what's the obvious link between The KLF and Hillary Clinton?

    Misspelling of name?
    Tammy Wynette.
    ...are you going to explain that?
    Tammy Wynette did Justified and Ancient with The KLF

    When Bill Clinton was running for President in 1992 and allegations that he was having lots of affairs, Hillary Clinton did an interview where she said

    “You know, I’m not sitting here, some little woman standing by my man like Tammy Wynette,”

    A reference to Tammy Wynette's seminal song, 'Stand by your man'

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-2016-60-minutes-1992-214275
  • eek said:

    AndyJS said:

    The best thing the KLF ever did was Doctorin' The Tardis.

    on my jukebox....
    Whitney joins the JAMS, Downtown or it's grim up north are all better (all Justified Ancients of Mu Mu rather than KLF tracks though).
    as singles I think I only have 3am, grim, justified and last train to go on it - are the others out there as singles?
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 21,471
    eek said:

    SeanT said:

    tyson said:

    I reckon if Hillary takes Tennessee at 3AM on November 9th, I reckon that'll be peak KLF on PB.

    What is KLF for an outsider?

    The KLF are a truly awesome 80s/90s electronica band.

    Here's some of their work

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRA93KWL1eY
    THEY BURNED A MILLION QUID

    Literally. Then regretted it.

    I have images of them now, in penurious late middle age, waking up in a cold sweat thinking:

    Jesus, did I really burn a MILLION QUID?

    Then realising that Yes, they did.
    Not quote a Million Quid - from memory they split it between the people who were there and I know at least one of them pocketed a grand...
    A million quid, or twenty Euros.
  • Jonathan said:

    'Kin hell, in the space of five years the Lib Dems went from holding the seat of Dunfermline and West Fife to a 4% share of the vote.

    Just imagine where they'll be in five years! 0.2% Or will prime minister Farron be introducing the Euro?
    It is the rise and fall of Clegg that still astonishes, the Cleggasm when he was the new Churchill and within months, he was having dog shit shoved through his letterbox.
  • Ishmael_X said:

    This is very easy, but what's the obvious link between The KLF and Hillary Clinton?

    Misspelling of name?
    Tammy Wynette.
    ...are you going to explain that?
    Tammy Wynette did Justified and Ancient with The KLF

    When Bill Clinton was running for President in 1992 and allegations that he was having lots of affairs, Hillary Clinton did an interview where she said

    “You know, I’m not sitting here, some little woman standing by my man like Tammy Wynette,”

    A reference to Tammy Wynette's seminal song, 'Stand by your man'

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-2016-60-minutes-1992-214275
    Tammy Wynette of course divorced her man. More than once I think?
  • tysontyson Posts: 6,111
    edited October 2016
    SeanT said:

    IanB2 said:


    tyson said:

    SeanT said:

    IanB2 said:

    Anorak said:

    SeanT said:

    Just been invited to go Mauritius and the Seychelles, in January.

    Anyone been to Mauritius, is it nice?

    Fuck. Off. You. Smug. Git*.

    *Yes, for honeymoon in December. Quite beautiful.
    I preferred yesterday's post when he was banging on about being an idiot who drinks too much.
    I shan't tell you about my impending commission to visit the new Six Senses in Cambodia, on its own private island

    http://www.traveldailymedia.com/237975/six-senses-to-debut-in-cambodia-with-luxury-island-resort/

    In early November I will be, officially, the first British journalist to see the new amazing 3D Lascaux complex. Two days ahead of Anthony Peregrine, of the Sunday Times

    I'm staying here

    http://www.chateaudelatreyne.com/en/

    A week later I'm flying to the Gourmet Escape Food Festival in Margaret River Australia,

    etc etc etc

    My life is ridiculous. It's sometimes lonely. But also fantastic. We do what we do, then we die.





    You do realise Sean you share many things in common with The Donald. A bit of comradely advice......not good.... always using hyperbole to describe how great you are. It makes you look desperate or sad, or pathetic, or a combination of the aforementioned.
    Trying to turn discussion on a political forum around to the wonderful life you are having, night after night, isn't a sign of good psychological health, to be sure.
    You must be new here. I have already confessed to being

    Alcoholic (albeit high functioning)
    An ex crack addict
    An ex heroin addict (who nearly died)
    Dependent on Xanax
    Bipolar
    Idiotic
    Sexually libertine with girls half my age


    I'm not exactly DISGUISING my mental problems.


    I hope you are not having some kind of Britney meltdown tonight.
    I already feel tremendously guilty for pointing out Plato's obsessional behaviour the other day, and she seems to have disappeared.

    Please Plato.....I really didn't mean it. Carry on as before.

    And Cycle Free....I made a slight critique of her dense prose.....but CycleFree is probably the most knowledgeable living person on esoteric, arty Italian cinema....that I have encountered ever....

    So SeanT......I love reading your posts. Genuinely.
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 21,471

    Jonathan said:

    'Kin hell, in the space of five years the Lib Dems went from holding the seat of Dunfermline and West Fife to a 4% share of the vote.

    Just imagine where they'll be in five years! 0.2% Or will prime minister Farron be introducing the Euro?
    It is the rise and fall of Clegg that still astonishes, the Cleggasm when he was the new Churchill and within months, he was having dog shit shoved through his letterbox.
    Icarus
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340

    eek said:

    AndyJS said:

    The best thing the KLF ever did was Doctorin' The Tardis.

    on my jukebox....
    Whitney joins the JAMS, Downtown or it's grim up north are all better (all Justified Ancients of Mu Mu rather than KLF tracks though).
    as singles I think I only have 3am, grim, justified and last train to go on it - are the others out there as singles?
    I'm fairly sure that Kylie Said To Jason was a single.

    Doctoring The Tardis was a number one, albeit under the Timelords soubriquet.
  • Ishmael_X said:

    This is very easy, but what's the obvious link between The KLF and Hillary Clinton?

    Misspelling of name?
    Tammy Wynette.
    ...are you going to explain that?
    Tammy Wynette did Justified and Ancient with The KLF

    When Bill Clinton was running for President in 1992 and allegations that he was having lots of affairs, Hillary Clinton did an interview where she said

    “You know, I’m not sitting here, some little woman standing by my man like Tammy Wynette,”

    A reference to Tammy Wynette's seminal song, 'Stand by your man'

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-2016-60-minutes-1992-214275
    Tammy Wynette of course divorced her man. More than once I think?
    5 marriages, 2 divorces, and 2 annulments
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,111
    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    tyson said:

    I reckon if Hillary takes Tennessee at 3AM on November 9th, I reckon that'll be peak KLF on PB.

    What is KLF for an outsider?

    The KLF are a truly awesome 80s/90s electronica band.

    Here's some of their work

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRA93KWL1eY
    THEY BURNED A MILLION QUID

    Literally. Then regretted it.

    I have images of them now, in penurious late middle age, waking up in a cold sweat thinking:

    Jesus, did I really burn a MILLION QUID?

    Then realising that Yes, they did.
    Bit like Brexit
    I do sometimes have the same chilling feeling...... But it passes. For now.
    For some, the UK wasn't broken. It didn't need fixing. London was successful. The success was spreading. The dice didn't have to be rolled.
    Great, because the entire UK lives and works in London,

    Oh,

    Wait...
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 21,250

    taffys said:


    Yeah Europe. Over there they've REALLY got things sorted.

    Keep going. European countries *love* to hear how shite they are from the dusty pits where they wait for apocalyptic fire to end.

    Edit: Deleted the inflammatory bits.

    Seriously though, this image you have of Europe is verging on defamatory.
    Just as a matter of interest what is defamatory about 'Taffys' comments
    As a picture of Europe, it is positively Breitbartian.
    But why is it defamatory
    Obviously you cannot defame a continent, I was talking figuratively. But if you think Taffys picture was accurate I suggest you travel more.

    Don't worry, you won't be beset by a PEGIDA mob fleeing a collapsing financial system at Calais.
    Travel more. I have visited every European and Scandanavian country, been round the world seven times in the last 9 years, visited Antarctica and enjoyed three weeks in Italy this summer.

    Does that fit the bill for you
    Very impressive.

    Did you see any massed PEGIDA marches?
    Have any trouble withdrawing cash from the ATMs in Europe's "essentially collapsed" financial system?

    Of course not.

    In fact you enjoyed an undoubtedly very pleasant three weeks in Italy, a country which despite all its troubles is still very liveable.

    My concern is that the kind of delusional talk from Taffy above fosters the worst kind of Brexit. Culturally insular and economically disastrous. Whatever happens, Europe is our neighbourhood. We need to work with them, not pour bile on them.

    Yes - big problems in Italy - tried 4 ATM'S at 4 banks and the last one paid out. My son and son in law both had difficulties with the Italian ATM's
    Huh. That's funny. I was in Italy, Germany, France and Croatia at times over summer, and I had no problems with ATM.

    Whereas just last week, in London, I tried an ATM that was "down". I moved on to the next machine.

    But I did not conclude that there was a run on the financial system, the pound's recent plunge notwithstanding.


  • I've got a Joy Division themed thread nearly finished.

    Headline is

    'Gove, Gove will tear us apart' and also features the sub headline 'She's lost control'
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,302
    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    tyson said:

    I reckon if Hillary takes Tennessee at 3AM on November 9th, I reckon that'll be peak KLF on PB.

    What is KLF for an outsider?

    The KLF are a truly awesome 80s/90s electronica band.

    Here's some of their work

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRA93KWL1eY
    THEY BURNED A MILLION QUID

    Literally. Then regretted it.

    I have images of them now, in penurious late middle age, waking up in a cold sweat thinking:

    Jesus, did I really burn a MILLION QUID?

    Then realising that Yes, they did.
    Bit like Brexit
    I do sometimes have the same chilling feeling...... But it passes. For now.
    For some, the UK wasn't broken. It didn't need fixing. London was successful. The success was spreading. The dice didn't have to be rolled.
    For some, but not for the majority
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 21,471
    Mortimer said:

    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    tyson said:

    I reckon if Hillary takes Tennessee at 3AM on November 9th, I reckon that'll be peak KLF on PB.

    What is KLF for an outsider?

    The KLF are a truly awesome 80s/90s electronica band.

    Here's some of their work

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRA93KWL1eY
    THEY BURNED A MILLION QUID

    Literally. Then regretted it.

    I have images of them now, in penurious late middle age, waking up in a cold sweat thinking:

    Jesus, did I really burn a MILLION QUID?

    Then realising that Yes, they did.
    Bit like Brexit
    I do sometimes have the same chilling feeling...... But it passes. For now.
    For some, the UK wasn't broken. It didn't need fixing. London was successful. The success was spreading. The dice didn't have to be rolled.
    Great, because the entire UK lives and works in London,

    Oh,

    Wait...
    When London succeeds, Britain succeeds.

    When London fails. Britain fails.

  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,302
    Jonathan said:

    Mortimer said:

    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    tyson said:

    I reckon if Hillary takes Tennessee at 3AM on November 9th, I reckon that'll be peak KLF on PB.

    What is KLF for an outsider?

    The KLF are a truly awesome 80s/90s electronica band.

    Here's some of their work

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRA93KWL1eY
    THEY BURNED A MILLION QUID

    Literally. Then regretted it.

    I have images of them now, in penurious late middle age, waking up in a cold sweat thinking:

    Jesus, did I really burn a MILLION QUID?

    Then realising that Yes, they did.
    Bit like Brexit
    I do sometimes have the same chilling feeling...... But it passes. For now.
    For some, the UK wasn't broken. It didn't need fixing. London was successful. The success was spreading. The dice didn't have to be rolled.
    Great, because the entire UK lives and works in London,

    Oh,

    Wait...
    When London succeeds, Britain succeeds.

    When London fails. Britain fails.

    self centred tosh
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,188
    edited October 2016
    Front page of The Times looks interesting for us punters, as the government cracks down on gambling companies.

    Looks like they are stopping the cancelling of bets/palpable error excuses among other things AND the closing of accounts/stake restrictions.

    https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/789214781739761664
  • tysontyson Posts: 6,111
    Mortimer said:

    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    tyson said:

    I reckon if Hillary takes Tennessee at 3AM on November 9th, I reckon that'll be peak KLF on PB.

    What is KLF for an outsider?

    The KLF are a truly awesome 80s/90s electronica band.

    Here's some of their work

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRA93KWL1eY
    THEY BURNED A MILLION QUID

    Literally. Then regretted it.

    I have images of them now, in penurious late middle age, waking up in a cold sweat thinking:

    Jesus, did I really burn a MILLION QUID?

    Then realising that Yes, they did.
    Bit like Brexit
    I do sometimes have the same chilling feeling...... But it passes. For now.
    For some, the UK wasn't broken. It didn't need fixing. London was successful. The success was spreading. The dice didn't have to be rolled.
    Great, because the entire UK lives and works in London,

    Oh,

    Wait...
    That's a very insightful and intelligent point you have just made
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 56,692

    Yes - big problems in Italy - tried 4 ATM'S at 4 banks and the last one paid out. My son and son in law both had difficulties with the Italian ATM's

    Ummm; really?

    The Italian banks aren't going to have any problems paying depositors. (Junior bond holders of BMPS, or some of the smaller Populare may not be so lucky.)

    But one thing needs to be put in context. Household debt to GDP (all off the top of my head but roughly right):

    UK / Denmark / Sweden - 180%
    Netherlands / Spain / Ireland - 100%
    Germany / France - 60%
    Italy - 50%

    Yes, there are some bad debt problems. But the scale of them is limited to what is owed. And the Italians simply don't owe very much. It's why the entire Italian banking system can be bailed out for €35bn, which is barely a drop in the bucket compared to Northern Rock alone.
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 21,471

    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    tyson said:

    I reckon if Hillary takes Tennessee at 3AM on November 9th, I reckon that'll be peak KLF on PB.

    What is KLF for an outsider?

    The KLF are a truly awesome 80s/90s electronica band.

    Here's some of their work

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRA93KWL1eY
    THEY BURNED A MILLION QUID

    Literally. Then regretted it.

    I have images of them now, in penurious late middle age, waking up in a cold sweat thinking:

    Jesus, did I really burn a MILLION QUID?

    Then realising that Yes, they did.
    Bit like Brexit
    I do sometimes have the same chilling feeling...... But it passes. For now.
    For some, the UK wasn't broken. It didn't need fixing. London was successful. The success was spreading. The dice didn't have to be rolled.
    For some, but not for the majority
    The solution was not to level down, but build on success and share it more widely.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,179

    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    tyson said:

    I reckon if Hillary takes Tennessee at 3AM on November 9th, I reckon that'll be peak KLF on PB.

    What is KLF for an outsider?

    The KLF are a truly awesome 80s/90s electronica band.

    Here's some of their work

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRA93KWL1eY
    THEY BURNED A MILLION QUID

    Literally. Then regretted it.

    I have images of them now, in penurious late middle age, waking up in a cold sweat thinking:

    Jesus, did I really burn a MILLION QUID?

    Then realising that Yes, they did.
    Bit like Brexit
    I do sometimes have the same chilling feeling...... But it passes. For now.
    For some, the UK wasn't broken. It didn't need fixing. London was successful. The success was spreading. The dice didn't have to be rolled.
    For some, but not for the majority
    A temporary constellation of forces deceived a majority into aligning with the fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists, but it will pass.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    rcs1000 said:

    Yes - big problems in Italy - tried 4 ATM'S at 4 banks and the last one paid out. My son and son in law both had difficulties with the Italian ATM's

    Ummm; really?

    The Italian banks aren't going to have any problems paying depositors. (Junior bond holders of BMPS, or some of the smaller Populare may not be so lucky.)

    But one thing needs to be put in context. Household debt to GDP (all off the top of my head but roughly right):

    UK / Denmark / Sweden - 180%
    Netherlands / Spain / Ireland - 100%
    Germany / France - 60%
    Italy - 50%

    Yes, there are some bad debt problems. But the scale of them is limited to what is owed. And the Italians simply don't owe very much. It's why the entire Italian banking system can be bailed out for €35bn, which is barely a drop in the bucket compared to Northern Rock alone.
    China and Japan are not too rosy either, I believe...
  • eek said:

    AndyJS said:

    The best thing the KLF ever did was Doctorin' The Tardis.

    on my jukebox....
    Whitney joins the JAMS, Downtown or it's grim up north are all better (all Justified Ancients of Mu Mu rather than KLF tracks though).
    as singles I think I only have 3am, grim, justified and last train to go on it - are the others out there as singles?
    I'm fairly sure that Kylie Said To Jason was a single.

    Doctoring The Tardis was a number one, albeit under the Timelords soubriquet.
    got the 12 inch and 7 inch of the timelords... first on at Xmas as everyone else hates it - my traditional start to xmas day celebs
  • taffys said:


    Yeah Europe. Over there they've REALLY got things sorted.

    Keep going. European countries *love* to hear how shite they are from the dusty pits where they wait for apocalyptic fire to end.

    Edit: Deleted the inflammatory bits.

    Seriously though, this image you have of Europe is verging on defamatory.
    Just as a matter of interest what is defamatory about 'Taffys' comments
    As a picture of Europe, it is positively Breitbartian.
    But why is it defamatory
    Obviously you cannot defame a continent, I was talking figuratively. But if you think Taffys picture was accurate I suggest you travel more.

    Don't worry, you won't be beset by a PEGIDA mob fleeing a collapsing financial system at Calais.
    Travel more. I have visited every European and Scandanavian country, been round the world seven times in the last 9 years, visited Antarctica and enjoyed three weeks in Italy this summer.

    Does that fit the bill for you
    Very impressive.

    Did you see any massed PEGIDA marches?
    Have any trouble withdrawing cash from the ATMs in Europe's "essentially collapsed" financial system?

    Of course not.

    In fact you enjoyed an undoubtedly very pleasant three weeks in Italy, a country which despite all its troubles is still very liveable.

    My concern is that the kind of delusional talk from Taffy above fosters the worst kind of Brexit. Culturally insular and economically disastrous. Whatever happens, Europe is our neighbourhood. We need to work with them, not pour bile on them.

    Yes - big problems in Italy - tried 4 ATM'S at 4 banks and the last one paid out. My son and son in law both had difficulties with the Italian ATM's
    Huh. That's funny. I was in Italy, Germany, France and Croatia at times over summer, and I had no problems with ATM.

    Whereas just last week, in London, I tried an ATM that was "down". I moved on to the next machine.

    But I did not conclude that there was a run on the financial system, the pound's recent plunge notwithstanding.


    At our Rome Airport Hotel we were told that they admired our guts at leaving the EU and on the same day the Union Jack replaced the EU flag on the Genoa beaches.
  • tysontyson Posts: 6,111

    I've got a Joy Division themed thread nearly finished.

    Headline is

    'Gove, Gove will tear us apart' and also features the sub headline 'She's lost control'


    I think if you never allowed me to listen to Joy Division or the Stone Roses again my life would be utterly diminished.

    Joy Division and the Roses are my goto's for any of life's shortcomings...
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,302

    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    tyson said:

    I reckon if Hillary takes Tennessee at 3AM on November 9th, I reckon that'll be peak KLF on PB.

    What is KLF for an outsider?

    The KLF are a truly awesome 80s/90s electronica band.

    Here's some of their work

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRA93KWL1eY
    THEY BURNED A MILLION QUID

    Literally. Then regretted it.

    I have images of them now, in penurious late middle age, waking up in a cold sweat thinking:

    Jesus, did I really burn a MILLION QUID?

    Then realising that Yes, they did.
    Bit like Brexit
    I do sometimes have the same chilling feeling...... But it passes. For now.
    For some, the UK wasn't broken. It didn't need fixing. London was successful. The success was spreading. The dice didn't have to be rolled.
    For some, but not for the majority
    A temporary constellation of forces deceived a majority into aligning with the fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists, but it will pass.
    you really havent understood why you lost and until you do you wont make any progress towards what you want
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 21,250

    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    tyson said:

    I reckon if Hillary takes Tennessee at 3AM on November 9th, I reckon that'll be peak KLF on PB.

    What is KLF for an outsider?

    The KLF are a truly awesome 80s/90s electronica band.

    Here's some of their work

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRA93KWL1eY
    THEY BURNED A MILLION QUID

    Literally. Then regretted it.

    I have images of them now, in penurious late middle age, waking up in a cold sweat thinking:

    Jesus, did I really burn a MILLION QUID?

    Then realising that Yes, they did.
    Bit like Brexit
    I do sometimes have the same chilling feeling...... But it passes. For now.
    For some, the UK wasn't broken. It didn't need fixing. London was successful. The success was spreading. The dice didn't have to be rolled.
    For some, but not for the majority
    A temporary constellation of forces deceived a majority into aligning with the fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists, but it will pass.
    Hopefully by this time next year, it'll have been called off by a beleaguered May administration, collapsing under the weight of its own contradictions.

    They'll be making horror movies about it.

    Brexit: I Know What You Did Last Summer.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,302
    Jonathan said:

    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    tyson said:

    I reckon if Hillary takes Tennessee at 3AM on November 9th, I reckon that'll be peak KLF on PB.

    What is KLF for an outsider?

    The KLF are a truly awesome 80s/90s electronica band.

    Here's some of their work

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRA93KWL1eY
    THEY BURNED A MILLION QUID

    Literally. Then regretted it.

    I have images of them now, in penurious late middle age, waking up in a cold sweat thinking:

    Jesus, did I really burn a MILLION QUID?

    Then realising that Yes, they did.
    Bit like Brexit
    I do sometimes have the same chilling feeling...... But it passes. For now.
    For some, the UK wasn't broken. It didn't need fixing. London was successful. The success was spreading. The dice didn't have to be rolled.
    For some, but not for the majority
    The solution was not to level down, but build on success and share it more widely.
    well given the absolute opposite had been the norm for over 2 decades why on earth do you think people would vote for a continuation of the satus quo ?
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 21,471

    Jonathan said:

    Mortimer said:

    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    tyson said:

    I reckon if Hillary takes Tennessee at 3AM on November 9th, I reckon that'll be peak KLF on PB.

    What is KLF for an outsider?

    The KLF are a truly awesome 80s/90s electronica band.

    Here's some of their work

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRA93KWL1eY
    THEY BURNED A MILLION QUID

    Literally. Then regretted it.

    I have images of them now, in penurious late middle age, waking up in a cold sweat thinking:

    Jesus, did I really burn a MILLION QUID?

    Then realising that Yes, they did.
    Bit like Brexit
    I do sometimes have the same chilling feeling...... But it passes. For now.
    For some, the UK wasn't broken. It didn't need fixing. London was successful. The success was spreading. The dice didn't have to be rolled.
    Great, because the entire UK lives and works in London,

    Oh,

    Wait...
    When London succeeds, Britain succeeds.

    When London fails. Britain fails.

    self centred tosh
    Eh?

    London is the capital. It's our country's prize asset. A remarkable city. Britain needs it to thrive.

  • NEW THREAD

  • I've got a Joy Division themed thread nearly finished.

    Headline is

    'Gove, Gove will tear us apart' and also features the sub headline 'She's lost control'

    transmission
    candidate
    she's lost control
    wilderness
    disorder
    insight
    I remember nothing
    novelty
    new dawn fades


    That thread could be a record and almost writes itself
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 56,692


    At our Rome Airport Hotel we were told that they admired our guts at leaving the EU and on the same day the Union Jack replaced the EU flag on the Genoa beaches.

    Italy is by far the most Euro-sceptic country (as in sceptical of the Euro).

    But even so, net support is still +25 or so, (compared to something like +80 in the Netherlands and Ireland)
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,302
    Jonathan said:

    Jonathan said:

    Mortimer said:

    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    tyson said:

    I reckon if Hillary takes Tennessee at 3AM on November 9th, I reckon that'll be peak KLF on PB.

    What is KLF for an outsider?

    The KLF are a truly awesome 80s/90s electronica band.

    Here's some of their work

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRA93KWL1eY
    THEY BURNED A MILLION QUID

    Literally. Then regretted it.

    I have images of them now, in penurious late middle age, waking up in a cold sweat thinking:

    Jesus, did I really burn a MILLION QUID?

    Then realising that Yes, they did.
    Bit like Brexit
    I do sometimes have the same chilling feeling...... But it passes. For now.
    For some, the UK wasn't broken. It didn't need fixing. London was successful. The success was spreading. The dice didn't have to be rolled.
    Great, because the entire UK lives and works in London,

    Oh,

    Wait...
    When London succeeds, Britain succeeds.

    When London fails. Britain fails.

    self centred tosh
    Eh?

    London is the capital. It's our country's prize asset. A remarkable city. Britain needs it to thrive.

    Up here in the Midlands we dont give a fk about London and see it as a huge parasite that sucks life out of the regions. The further North you go the stronger that view becomes.

    There are more people in the regions than London. Travel more.
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 21,471

    Jonathan said:

    Jonathan said:

    Mortimer said:

    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    tyson said:

    I reckon if Hillary takes Tennessee at 3AM on November 9th, I reckon that'll be peak KLF on PB.

    What is KLF for an outsider?

    The KLF are a truly awesome 80s/90s electronica band.

    Here's some of their work

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRA93KWL1eY
    THEY BURNED A MILLION QUID

    Literally. Then regretted it.

    I have images of them now, in penurious late middle age, waking up in a cold sweat thinking:

    Jesus, did I really burn a MILLION QUID?

    Then realising that Yes, they did.
    Bit like Brexit
    I do sometimes have the same chilling feeling...... But it passes. For now.
    For some, the UK wasn't broken. It didn't need fixing. London was successful. The success was spreading. The dice didn't have to be rolled.
    Great, because the entire UK lives and works in London,

    Oh,

    Wait...
    When London succeeds, Britain succeeds.

    When London fails. Britain fails.

    self centred tosh
    Eh?

    London is the capital. It's our country's prize asset. A remarkable city. Britain needs it to thrive.

    Up here in the Midlands we dont give a fk about London and see it as a huge parasite that sucks life out of the regions. The further North you go the stronger that view becomes.

    There are more people in the regions than London. Travel more.
    Self defeating bullshit.
  • tysontyson Posts: 6,111
    Jonathan said:

    Mortimer said:

    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    tyson said:

    I reckon if Hillary takes Tennessee at 3AM on November 9th, I reckon that'll be peak KLF on PB.

    What is KLF for an outsider?

    The KLF are a truly awesome 80s/90s electronica band.

    Here's some of their work

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRA93KWL1eY
    THEY BURNED A MILLION QUID

    Literally. Then regretted it.

    I have images of them now, in penurious late middle age, waking up in a cold sweat thinking:

    Jesus, did I really burn a MILLION QUID?

    Then realising that Yes, they did.
    Bit like Brexit
    I do sometimes have the same chilling feeling...... But it passes. For now.
    For some, the UK wasn't broken. It didn't need fixing. London was successful. The success was spreading. The dice didn't have to be rolled.
    Great, because the entire UK lives and works in London,

    Oh,

    Wait...
    When London succeeds, Britain succeeds.

    When London fails. Britain fails.

    Mortimer made a really good point though that is not helped on bit by your answer. People up north found southerners arrogant, and when the disparity becomes greater.....

    Mortimer's post made me realise why people like my brother voted Brexit.....


  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 21,250
    edited October 2016

    taffys said:


    Yeah Europe. Over there they've REALLY got things sorted.

    Keep going. European countries *love* to hear how shite they are from the dusty pits where they wait for apocalyptic fire to end.

    Edit: Deleted the inflammatory bits.

    Seriously though, this image you have of Europe is verging on defamatory.
    Just as a matter of interest what is defamatory about 'Taffys' comments
    As a picture of Europe, it is positively Breitbartian.
    But why is it defamatory
    Obviously you cannot defame a continent, I was talking figuratively. But if you think Taffys picture was accurate I suggest you travel more.

    Don't worry, you won't be beset by a PEGIDA mob fleeing a collapsing financial system at Calais.
    Travel more. I have visited every European and Scandanavian country, been round the world seven times in the last 9 years, visited Antarctica and enjoyed three weeks in Italy this summer.

    Does that fit the bill for you
    Very impressive.

    Did you see any massed PEGIDA marches?
    Have any trouble withdrawing cash from the ATMs in Europe's "essentially collapsed" financial system?

    Yes - big problems in Italy - tried 4 ATM'S at 4 banks and the last one paid out. My son and son in law both had difficulties with the Italian ATM's
    Huh. That's funny. I was in Italy, Germany, France and Croatia at times over summer, and I had no problems with ATM.

    Whereas just last week, in London, I tried an ATM that was "down". I moved on to the next machine.

    But I did not conclude that there was a run on the financial system, the pound's recent plunge notwithstanding.


    At our Rome Airport Hotel we were told that they admired our guts at leaving the EU and on the same day the Union Jack replaced the EU flag on the Genoa beaches.
    I am not surprised!

    After all, it must be difficult putting food on the table amid collapsing banks and radioactive PEGIDA zombies armed with machine guns, firing off rounds willy nilly as valuable quattrocento frescoes crumble into dust.

    Did you tell them, "I was Remain, actually"?
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,302
    Jonathan said:

    Jonathan said:

    Jonathan said:

    Mortimer said:

    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    tyson said:

    I reckon if Hillary takes Tennessee at 3AM on November 9th, I reckon that'll be peak KLF on PB.

    What is KLF for an outsider?

    The KLF are a truly awesome 80s/90s electronica band.

    Here's some of their work

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRA93KWL1eY
    THEY BURNED A MILLION QUID

    Literally. Then regretted it.

    I have images of them now, in penurious late middle age, waking up in a cold sweat thinking:

    Jesus, did I really burn a MILLION QUID?

    Then realising that Yes, they did.
    Bit like Brexit
    I do sometimes have the same chilling feeling...... But it passes. For now.
    For some, the UK wasn't broken. It didn't need fixing. London was successful. The success was spreading. The dice didn't have to be rolled.
    Great, because the entire UK lives and works in London,

    Oh,

    Wait...
    When London succeeds, Britain succeeds.

    When London fails. Britain fails.

    self centred tosh
    Eh?

    London is the capital. It's our country's prize asset. A remarkable city. Britain needs it to thrive.

    Up here in the Midlands we dont give a fk about London and see it as a huge parasite that sucks life out of the regions. The further North you go the stronger that view becomes.

    There are more people in the regions than London. Travel more.
    Self defeating bullshit.
    Not in the least, your smug we should be grateful for London crap cuts no ice outside the South East. The fact that we are interested in our own welfare and not Londons appears to be a shock to you. In simple terms thats why you lost, you have no feel for life outside Sussex,



  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 21,471

    Jonathan said:

    Jonathan said:

    Jonathan said:

    Mortimer said:

    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    tyson said:

    I reckon if Hillary takes Tennessee at 3AM on November 9th, I reckon that'll be peak KLF on PB.

    What is KLF for an outsider?

    The KLF are a truly awesome 80s/90s electronica band.

    Here's some of their work

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRA93KWL1eY
    THEY BURNED A MILLION QUID

    Literally. Then regretted it.

    I have images of them now, in penurious late middle age, waking up in a cold sweat thinking:

    Jesus, did I really burn a MILLION QUID?

    Then realising that Yes, they did.
    Bit like Brexit
    I do sometimes have the same chilling feeling...... But it passes. For now.
    For some, the UK wasn't broken. It didn't need fixing. London was successful. The success was spreading. The dice didn't have to be rolled.
    Great, because the entire UK lives and works in London,

    Oh,

    Wait...
    When London succeeds, Britain succeeds.

    When London fails. Britain fails.

    self centred tosh
    Eh?

    London is the capital. It's our country's prize asset. A remarkable city. Britain needs it to thrive.

    Up here in the Midlands we dont give a fk about London and see it as a huge parasite that sucks life out of the regions. The further North you go the stronger that view becomes.

    There are more people in the regions than London. Travel more.
    Self defeating bullshit.
    Not in the least, your smug we should be grateful for London crap cuts no ice outside the South East. The fact that we are interested in our own welfare and not Londons appears to be a shock to you. In simple terms thats why you lost, you have no feel for life outside Sussex,



    You seem to be carrying a sack of spuds on your shoulder. Sad.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,302
    Jonathan said:

    Jonathan said:

    Jonathan said:

    Jonathan said:

    Mortimer said:

    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    tyson said:

    I reckon if Hillary takes Tennessee at 3AM on November 9th, I reckon that'll be peak KLF on PB.

    What is KLF for an outsider?

    The KLF are a truly awesome 80s/90s electronica band.

    Here's some of their work

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRA93KWL1eY
    THEY BURNED A MILLION QUID

    Literally. Then regretted it.

    I have images of them now, in penurious late middle age, waking up in a cold sweat thinking:

    Jesus, did I really burn a MILLION QUID?

    Then realising that Yes, they did.
    Bit like Brexit
    I do sometimes have the same chilling feeling...... But it passes. For now.
    For some, the UK wasn't broken. It didn't need fixing. London was successful. The success was spreading. The dice didn't have to be rolled.
    Great, because the entire UK lives and works in London,

    Oh,

    Wait...
    When London succeeds, Britain succeeds.

    When London fails. Britain fails.

    self centred tosh
    Eh?

    London is the capital. It's our country's prize asset. A remarkable city. Britain needs it to thrive.

    Up here in the Midlands we dont give a fk about London and see it as a huge parasite that sucks life out of the regions. The further North you go the stronger that view becomes.

    There are more people in the regions than London. Travel more.
    Self defeating bullshit.
    Not in the least, your smug we should be grateful for London crap cuts no ice outside the South East. The fact that we are interested in our own welfare and not Londons appears to be a shock to you. In simple terms thats why you lost, you have no feel for life outside Sussex,



    You seem to be carrying a sack of spuds on your shoulder. Sad.
    Cop out - you still just canht get what happens outside the south east

    A so called Labour man who cant get why Labour areas outsiude the SE voted heavily for Leave.

    Bury your head, but you have no idea of life outside your own area
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 21,471

    Jonathan said:

    Jonathan said:

    Jonathan said:

    Jonathan said:

    Mortimer said:

    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    tyson said:

    I reckon if Hillary takes Tennessee at 3AM on November 9th, I reckon that'll be peak KLF on PB.

    What is KLF for an outsider?

    The KLF are a truly awesome 80s/90s electronica band.

    Here's some of their work

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRA93KWL1eY
    THEY BURNED A MILLION QUID

    Literally. Then regretted it.

    I have images of them now, in penurious late middle age, waking up in a cold sweat thinking:

    Jesus, did I really burn a MILLION QUID?

    Then realising that Yes, they did.
    Bit like Brexit
    I do sometimes have the same chilling feeling...... But it passes. For now.
    For some, the UK wasn't broken. It didn't need fixing. London was successful. The success was spreading. The dice didn't have to be rolled.
    Great, because the entire UK lives and works in London,

    Oh,

    Wait...
    When London succeeds, Britain succeeds.

    When London fails. Britain fails.

    self centred tosh
    Eh?

    London is the capital. It's our country's prize asset. A remarkable city. Britain needs it to thrive.

    Up here in the Midlands we dont give a fk about London and see it as a huge parasite that sucks life out of the regions. The further North you go the stronger that view becomes.

    There are more people in the regions than London. Travel more.
    Self defeating bullshit.
    Not in the least, your smug we should be grateful for London crap cuts no ice outside the South East. The fact that we are interested in our own welfare and not Londons appears to be a shock to you. In simple terms thats why you lost, you have no feel for life outside Sussex,



    You seem to be carrying a sack of spuds on your shoulder. Sad.
    Cop out - you still just canht get what happens outside the south east

    A so called Labour man who cant get why Labour areas outsiude the SE voted heavily for Leave.

    Bury your head, but you have no idea of life outside your own area
    Give it a rest. New thread and all that.
  • Jonathan said:

    Jonathan said:

    Jonathan said:

    Mortimer said:

    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    tyson said:

    I reckon if Hillary takes Tennessee at 3AM on November 9th, I reckon that'll be peak KLF on PB.

    What is KLF for an outsider?

    The KLF are a truly awesome 80s/90s electronica band.

    Here's some of their work

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRA93KWL1eY
    THEY BURNED A MILLION QUID

    Literally. Then regretted it.

    I have images of them now, in penurious late middle age, waking up in a cold sweat thinking:

    Jesus, did I really burn a MILLION QUID?

    Then realising that Yes, they did.
    Bit like Brexit
    I do sometimes have the same chilling feeling...... But it passes. For now.
    For some, the UK wasn't broken. It didn't need fixing. London was successful. The success was spreading. The dice didn't have to be rolled.
    Great, because the entire UK lives and works in London,

    Oh,

    Wait...
    When London succeeds, Britain succeeds.

    When London fails. Britain fails.

    self centred tosh
    Eh?

    London is the capital. It's our country's prize asset. A remarkable city. Britain needs it to thrive.

    Up here in the Midlands we dont give a fk about London and see it as a huge parasite that sucks life out of the regions. The further North you go the stronger that view becomes.

    There are more people in the regions than London. Travel more.
    Self defeating bullshit.
    Not in the least, your smug we should be grateful for London crap cuts no ice outside the South East. The fact that we are interested in our own welfare and not Londons appears to be a shock to you. In simple terms thats why you lost, you have no feel for life outside Sussex,



    People mostly ignore London here in East Anglia...
  • rcs1000 said:

    justin124 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    justin124 said:

    But even in those circumstances May would require Corbyn's co-operation re-the timing of an election. He could still frustrate her plans for at least a few weeks.

    So, he could delay the invocation of Article 50 (which, by the way, he supports) for a couple of weeks, at the expense of seeing himself lose half his seats.

    The Lords would not delay an Article 50 Bill; nor would the Commons. She would either have a fabulous mandate, or a large majority.

    Instead, she's made a point of principle out of something she'd win by a mile anyway.

    Not only does it make it clear how weak she is, but it also endangers Brexit. Dumb. Dumb. Dumb.
    But he could force her to table a formal No Confidence vote in her own Government - which,in turn, could lead to the constitutional uncertainty discussed here a few days ago.
    He doesn't need to. If the Article 50 Enabling Bill is a vote of confidence, they either pass it (job done), or she goes to the country, and gets a mega majority off the back of the Lords (and Labour) trying to subvert the will of the people.

    The Lords would not be able to block it post GE, as it would have been in the manifesto.
    Yes he does. Loss of a confidence vote in the Lords does not trigger a general election. The Fixed Term Parliament Act is clear that it needs loss of a confidence vote in the Commons.
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