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Tonight's council by-elections: three Labour defences and one UKIP https://t.co/WHPJJTOkMO pic.twitter.com/u2sm5eCUN0

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  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,666
    Glorious first!
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,666
    How long until Harry is back? :o
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,490
    I was in Mosborough/Crystal Peaks this evening, you wouldn't know there was a by election on
  • Hertsmere_PubgoerHertsmere_Pubgoer Posts: 3,476
    edited September 2016
    Drat
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 52,726
    Fifth like UKIp
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,666
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    I was in Mosborough/Crystal Peaks this evening, you wouldn't know there was a by election on

    PB pro tip.. grab the first before announcing the new thread on the old ;)
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,809
    Corbyn going on about poverty and inequality - his favourite subjects.

    Only problem is they come low down on MORI issues index.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,490
    edited September 2016
    RobD said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    I was in Mosborough/Crystal Peaks this evening, you wouldn't know there was a by election on

    PB pro tip.. grab the first before announcing the new thread on the old ;)
    I get told off for being first when I publish the thread.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,666
    titter.. Jeremy has not served under any Labour leader.
  • chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    I was in Mosborough/Crystal Peaks this evening, you wouldn't know there was a by election on

    Sheffield's curious love of naming places after porn stars...Crystal Peaks...PenisTone
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,666
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    RobD said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    I was in Mosborough/Crystal Peaks this evening, you wouldn't know there was a by election on

    PB pro tip.. grab the first before announcing the new thread on the old ;)
    I get told off for being first when I publish the thread.
    You could be gracious and let people win from time to time :p
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,490
    chestnut said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    I was in Mosborough/Crystal Peaks this evening, you wouldn't know there was a by election on

    Sheffield's curious love of naming places after porn stars...Crystal Peaks...PenisTone
    Penistone is Dingeland*, not Sheffield

    *Barnsley to the rest of the world
  • RazedabodeRazedabode Posts: 3,120
    Who's idea was this bbc question time appearance? Total car crash
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,809
    This is a huge gift for the Conservatives - assuming Corbyn wins.

    Every Smith quote can be replayed against Labour and Corbyn.
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,325
    Car transporter crash on BBC1.

    https://twitter.com/Jamin2g/status/773976700162023424
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,666
    MikeL said:

    This is a huge gift for the Conservatives - assuming Corbyn wins.

    Every Smith quote can be replayed against Labour and Corbyn.

    I imagine May is watching and has a small smile on her face.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,490
    RobD said:

    MikeL said:

    This is a huge gift for the Conservatives - assuming Corbyn wins.

    Every Smith quote can be replayed against Labour and Corbyn.

    I imagine May is watching and has a small smile on her face.
    https://twitter.com/scoote1972/status/773979292321611782
  • chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    Owen Smith, going down like a bag of sick in large parts of Labour Brexit land.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 27,130
    Corbyn's position on the EU is far more sensible than Owen Smith's.
  • alex.alex. Posts: 4,658
    Corbyn said Labour supported the holding of the referendum. Did they?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,666
    alex. said:

    Corbyn said Labour supported the holding of the referendum. Did they?

    At second reading yes, but not at third reading.

    http://www.publicwhip.org.uk/division.php?date=2015-06-09&number=6&dmp=1027

    http://www.publicwhip.org.uk/division.php?date=2015-09-07&number=61&dmp=1027
  • Paul_BedfordshirePaul_Bedfordshire Posts: 3,632
    chestnut said:

    Owen Smith, going down like a bag of sick in large parts of Labour Brexit land.

    It was a stroke of genius by Smith, sticking two fingers up to the referendum result that was basically won by labour voters and members in provincial cities and Wales
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,490
    alex. said:

    Corbyn said Labour supported the holding of the referendum. Did they?

    They did

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33067157
  • ArtistArtist Posts: 1,893
    edited September 2016
    tlg86 said:

    Corbyn's position on the EU is far more sensible than Owen Smith's.


    Not supporting the single market and having open borders? Yep, much more sensible.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,666
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    alex. said:

    Corbyn said Labour supported the holding of the referendum. Did they?

    They did

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33067157
    Second reading old boy!
  • Paul_BedfordshirePaul_Bedfordshire Posts: 3,632
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    chestnut said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    I was in Mosborough/Crystal Peaks this evening, you wouldn't know there was a by election on

    Sheffield's curious love of naming places after porn stars...Crystal Peaks...PenisTone
    Penistone is Dingeland*, not Sheffield

    *Barnsley to the rest of the world
    Penistone sounds more like Dong land than Dingeland
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 27,130
    Artist said:

    tlg86 said:

    Corbyn's position on the EU is far more sensible than Owen Smith's.


    Not supporting the single market and having open borders? Yep, much more sensible.
    Well, if that's what the people vote for in 2020 then so be it. Probably won't happen, though.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,314
    Paul_Bedfordshire said:

    chestnut said:

    Owen Smith, going down like a bag of sick in large parts of Labour Brexit land.

    It was a stroke of genius by Smith, sticking two fingers up to the referendum result that was basically won by labour voters and members in provincial cities and Wales
    It's good to see Labour voters in provincial cities and Wales keeping up their record of being wrong on everything.
  • Paul_BedfordshirePaul_Bedfordshire Posts: 3,632
    tlg86 said:

    Artist said:

    tlg86 said:

    Corbyn's position on the EU is far more sensible than Owen Smith's.


    Not supporting the single market and having open borders? Yep, much more sensible.
    Well, if that's what the people vote for in 2020 then so be it. Probably won't happen, though.
    That is the point of electing the people that run the country. It stops people like Corbyn or Juncker getting power.
  • Paul_BedfordshirePaul_Bedfordshire Posts: 3,632
    williamglenn said:

    Paul_Bedfordshire said:

    chestnut said:

    Owen Smith, going down like a bag of sick in large parts of Labour Brexit land.

    It was a stroke of genius by Smith, sticking two fingers up to the referendum result that was basically won by labour voters and members in provincial cities and Wales
    It's good to see Labour voters in provincial cities and Wales keeping up their record of being wrong on everything.
    You lost the referendum and we are leaving the EU. Get over it.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 66,575
    How on earth could Owen Smith make Corbyn look like a statesman. Labour are making a fool of themselves in front of the Nation on BBC Question Time. Terminal for labour - full stop
  • welshowlwelshowl Posts: 4,464
    Owen Smith - someone make it stop! For his sake! How the hell have Labour ended up with these two??
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,666
    Posted workers directive!!! It's back :o
  • chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    Corbyn's performance in this debate is actually pretty good so far.
  • Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,069
    First!!!

    [Corbynista definition]
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,666
    Scrapheap_as_was said:

    First!!!

    [Corbynista definition]

    Technically true if you are viewing the comments on the main site (newest first).

    New first!
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,666
    Who let children into the audience? :p
  • Paul_BedfordshirePaul_Bedfordshire Posts: 3,632
    edited September 2016
    RobD said:

    Scrapheap_as_was said:

    First!!!

    [Corbynista definition]

    Technically true if you are viewing the comments on the main site (newest first).

    New first!
    I stopped doing that ages ago. Vanilla much easier to view and a fraction of the bandwidth on a smartphone
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 66,575
    Owen Smith torpedoed by Dimbleby. Corbyn is actually coming over as someone who wants out of Europe
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,666
    edited September 2016
    Paul_Bedfordshire said:

    RobD said:

    Scrapheap_as_was said:

    First!!!

    [Corbynista definition]

    Technically true if you are viewing the comments on the main site (newest first).

    New first!
    I stopped doing that ages ago. Vanilla much easier to view and a fraction of the bandwidth on a smartphone
    I use Vanilla on the phone, but main site on the laptop so OGH gets the ad revenue. (the amount of times I hit the refresh button he must be rolling in it ;) )
  • MP_SEMP_SE Posts: 3,642
    chestnut said:

    Owen Smith, going down like a bag of sick in large parts of Labour Brexit land.

    I can't believe I missed out on what sounds like a thoroughly entertaining episode of Question Time.

    https://twitter.com/Michael_Heaver/status/773983360515473408
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 61,245
    tlg86 said:

    Artist said:

    tlg86 said:

    Corbyn's position on the EU is far more sensible than Owen Smith's.


    Not supporting the single market and having open borders? Yep, much more sensible.
    Well, if that's what the people vote for in 2020 then so be it. Probably won't happen, though.
    I'm assuming that was what the country voted for, and will be very disappointed in Mrs May doesn't follow through with a massive increase in unskilled immigration and a drastic reduction in companies wishing to invest in the UK.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    Smith digging deeper on ISIS peace talks.

    Corbyn is channelling Jim Hacker's grand design by cancelling Trident and spending the money on conventional weapons.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 61,245
    Paul_Bedfordshire said:

    tlg86 said:

    Artist said:

    tlg86 said:

    Corbyn's position on the EU is far more sensible than Owen Smith's.


    Not supporting the single market and having open borders? Yep, much more sensible.
    Well, if that's what the people vote for in 2020 then so be it. Probably won't happen, though.
    That is the point of electing the people that run the country. It stops people like Corbyn or Juncker getting power.
    Point of order, the people of Luxembourg elected Juncker to run their country.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,666
    MP_SE said:

    chestnut said:

    Owen Smith, going down like a bag of sick in large parts of Labour Brexit land.

    I can't believe I missed out on what sounds like a thoroughly entertaining episode of Question Time.

    https://twitter.com/Michael_Heaver/status/773983360515473408
    It'll be on iPlayer for your viewing pleasure :D
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,666
    Speedy said:

    Smith digging deeper on ISIS peace talks.

    Corbyn is channelling Jim Hacker's grand design by cancelling Trident and spending the money on conventional weapons.

    £350mn/week on the Navy, not the NHS! :p
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 27,130
    rcs1000 said:

    tlg86 said:

    Artist said:

    tlg86 said:

    Corbyn's position on the EU is far more sensible than Owen Smith's.


    Not supporting the single market and having open borders? Yep, much more sensible.
    Well, if that's what the people vote for in 2020 then so be it. Probably won't happen, though.
    I'm assuming that was what the country voted for, and will be very disappointed in Mrs May doesn't follow through with a massive increase in unskilled immigration and a drastic reduction in companies wishing to invest in the UK.
    We voted to leave the EU. It is now up to the elected Conservative government to take that forward. Owen Smith wants to ignore the result and carry on. May could do that, but it would be a courageous decision.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,943
    Am not near a telly. How's is going?

    Jezza sticking to his guns? Everyone asking; Owen Who???????

    ;)
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 66,575
    Owen Smith's idea of campaigning at the next GE to re-join Europe must mean he accepts the Euro or he hasn't thought it through. Corbyn wanting out of Europe is due to his renationalisation programmes
  • DadgeDadge Posts: 2,052
    Paul_Bedfordshire said:

    williamglenn said:

    Paul_Bedfordshire said:

    chestnut said:

    Owen Smith, going down like a bag of sick in large parts of Labour Brexit land.

    It was a stroke of genius by Smith, sticking two fingers up to the referendum result that was basically won by labour voters and members in provincial cities and Wales
    It's good to see Labour voters in provincial cities and Wales keeping up their record of being wrong on everything.
    You lost the referendum and we are leaving the EU. Get over it.
    Just thought: a large number of the people who voted for Brexit will be dead before it finally happens. And by then a lot of the rest of us will wish we were, including most of the Department for Brexiting the Life Force, or whatever it's called.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 66,575
    GIN1138 said:

    Am not near a telly. How's is going?

    Jezza sticking to his guns? Everyone asking; Owen Who???????

    ;)

    Jezza home and dry by a mountain mile
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    GIN1138 said:

    Am not near a telly. How's is going?

    Jezza sticking to his guns? Everyone asking; Owen Who???????

    ;)

    Smith is making Corbyn look like George Washington.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,666
    Dadge said:

    Paul_Bedfordshire said:

    williamglenn said:

    Paul_Bedfordshire said:

    chestnut said:

    Owen Smith, going down like a bag of sick in large parts of Labour Brexit land.

    It was a stroke of genius by Smith, sticking two fingers up to the referendum result that was basically won by labour voters and members in provincial cities and Wales
    It's good to see Labour voters in provincial cities and Wales keeping up their record of being wrong on everything.
    You lost the referendum and we are leaving the EU. Get over it.
    Just thought: a large number of the people who voted for Brexit will be dead before it finally happens. And by then a lot of the rest of us will wish we were, including most of the Department for Brexiting the Life Force, or whatever it's called.
    A trope that is often banded about about the Tories. Weren't they all supposed to have died out post 97? No, people just grow up.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 27,130
    Smith really is looking like a complete twat.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,490
    GIN1138 said:

    Am not near a telly. How's is going?

    Jezza sticking to his guns? Everyone asking; Owen Who???????

    ;)

    Jez = Julius Caesar

    Owen = Hannibal
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,943
    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Am not near a telly. How's is going?

    Jezza sticking to his guns? Everyone asking; Owen Who???????

    ;)

    Jezza home and dry by a mountain mile
    :smiley:
  • Paul_BedfordshirePaul_Bedfordshire Posts: 3,632
    rcs1000 said:

    Paul_Bedfordshire said:

    tlg86 said:

    Artist said:

    tlg86 said:

    Corbyn's position on the EU is far more sensible than Owen Smith's.


    Not supporting the single market and having open borders? Yep, much more sensible.
    Well, if that's what the people vote for in 2020 then so be it. Probably won't happen, though.
    That is the point of electing the people that run the country. It stops people like Corbyn or Juncker getting power.
    Point of order, the people of Luxembourg elected Juncker to run their country.
    Pleading of mitigation. Luxembourg has about the same population as London Borough of Lambeth and look at the loonies they used to elect......
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,666
    GIN1138 said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Am not near a telly. How's is going?

    Jezza sticking to his guns? Everyone asking; Owen Who???????

    ;)

    Jezza home and dry by a mountain mile
    :smiley:
    Careful, you'll piss off tyson....
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 61,245
    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    Owen Smith's idea of campaigning at the next GE to re-join Europe must mean he accepts the Euro or he hasn't thought it through. Corbyn wanting out of Europe is due to his renationalisation programmes

    I'm fairly sure that most of the Eurozone members would rather there were no new members for a couple of decades while they get their house in order.
  • welshowlwelshowl Posts: 4,464
    GIN1138 said:

    Am not near a telly. How's is going?

    Jezza sticking to his guns? Everyone asking; Owen Who???????

    ;)

    Theresa May's in A and E having her sides sewn back up from an hour's huge mirth.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,666
    welshowl said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Am not near a telly. How's is going?

    Jezza sticking to his guns? Everyone asking; Owen Who???????

    ;)

    Theresa May's in A and E having her sides sewn back up from an hour's huge mirth.
    Ouch. More of a chortle than a titter I guess!
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,731
    RobD said:

    welshowl said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Am not near a telly. How's is going?

    Jezza sticking to his guns? Everyone asking; Owen Who???????

    ;)

    Theresa May's in A and E having her sides sewn back up from an hour's huge mirth.
    Ouch. More of a chortle than a titter I guess!
    Braying? :lol:
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 66,575
    welshowl said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Am not near a telly. How's is going?

    Jezza sticking to his guns? Everyone asking; Owen Who???????

    ;)

    Theresa May's in A and E having her sides sewn back up from an hour's huge mirth.
    Joined by the whole of the Conservative Party
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 27,130
    This is a complete car crash for the Labour Party. They better hope it's only us geeks watching it.
  • Paul_BedfordshirePaul_Bedfordshire Posts: 3,632
    edited September 2016
    The bitter in remainers latest stunt is going to be standing outside the albert hall giving free EU flags to concert goers in the hope of persuading them to wave EU flags instead of the Union Flag.

    Its a bit sad really.

    https://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/sep/07/pro-eu-protest-planned-for-last-night-of-the-proms
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 27,130
    Owen Smith now having to pander to chippy Muslims; not going to go down well with Middle England.
  • Hertsmere_PubgoerHertsmere_Pubgoer Posts: 3,476
    Speedy said:

    Smith digging deeper on ISIS peace talks.

    Corbyn is channelling Jim Hacker's grand design by cancelling Trident and spending the money on conventional weapons.

    Prosaic. I was watching Trump on YouTube earlier and he was channelling Hacker on the National Education Service.
  • chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    Labour debate incorporates an argument about the death of all Jews?
  • HaroldOHaroldO Posts: 1,185
    I remember reading a meme that Corbyn must read A Very British Coup every year before Xmas, put it under his pillow and spend all night Xmas eve wishing really hard for a left wing miracle.
    The fact the whole novel was based on the idea of the Kremlin having foreign currency reserves large enough to support he UK is quite hilarious. The USSR was bleeding dollars by the late 70's, and that was before the oil bust.
    I'm thinking about this too much aren't I....
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,666
    chestnut said:

    Labour debate incorporates an argument about the death of all Jews?

    Where's Ken?
  • RazedabodeRazedabode Posts: 3,120
    Corbyn says nothing of substance at all. Gets huge cheers by saying how good it'll be to promote community cohesion and anti racism. How's he going to do it? He just repeats the same crap over and over.

    Owen smith is much worse of course but the real loser here is the Labour Party. Real state of a party.
  • TonyETonyE Posts: 938
    I really didn't think that anyone could make Jeremy Corbyn look like a competent politician.

    Bravo Owen Smith, you have proved you're at least good for one thing.
  • HaroldOHaroldO Posts: 1,185
    This whole grammar schools ploy must be May getting it under the radar whilst Labour fight so she can shift to the centre for the rest of the parliament whilst the hard right chew on having a little bit of the 1950's back....right?
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 27,130
    Alistair Campbell's name booed!
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,316
    HaroldO said:

    This whole grammar schools ploy must be May getting it under the radar whilst Labour fight so she can shift to the centre for the rest of the parliament whilst the hard right chew on having a little bit of the 1950's back....right?

    Shock horror - Grammar schools are now popular.

  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,731
    tlg86 said:

    Alistair Campbell's name booed!

    Highlight of the evening :lol:
  • houndtanghoundtang Posts: 450
    That was appalling. Smith is untouchably bad. Almost made Corbyn look good. Wouldn't be surprised if the latter won the leadership by 70% or more.
  • welshowlwelshowl Posts: 4,464
    edited September 2016
    Razedabode said:

    Corbyn says nothing of substance at all. Gets huge cheers by saying how good it'll be to promote community cohesion and anti racism. How's he going to do it? He just repeats the same crap over and over.

    Owen smith is much worse of course but the real loser here is the Labour Party. Real state of a party.

    Jezza's not strong in the word "how". That means engaging with the real world full of shades of grey. Much easier to have a "position".
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,731
    HaroldO said:

    This whole grammar schools ploy must be May getting it under the radar whilst Labour fight so she can shift to the centre for the rest of the parliament whilst the hard right chew on having a little bit of the 1950's back....right?

    Hmm.... The Treaty of Rome dates from 1958 after all....
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 66,575
    Following that live BBC debate can anyone in labour even attempt to say that it was anything but an unmitigated disaster for them. Dreadful
  • MP_SEMP_SE Posts: 3,642
    RobD said:

    MP_SE said:

    chestnut said:

    Owen Smith, going down like a bag of sick in large parts of Labour Brexit land.

    I can't believe I missed out on what sounds like a thoroughly entertaining episode of Question Time.

    https://twitter.com/Michael_Heaver/status/773983360515473408
    It'll be on iPlayer for your viewing pleasure :D
    I will have to stop off at Sainsburys and buy several large bags of popcorn first.
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    RobD said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Am not near a telly. How's is going?

    Jezza sticking to his guns? Everyone asking; Owen Who???????

    ;)

    Jezza home and dry by a mountain mile
    :smiley:
    Careful, you'll piss off tyson....
    Yup

    :wink:
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    TonyE said:

    I really didn't think that anyone could make Jeremy Corbyn look like a competent politician.

    Bravo Owen Smith, you have proved you're at least good for one thing.

    I was one of the first who noticed it back in early July.

    As I said many times Corbyn wins by default because his enemies make him look good by comparison.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,943
    edited September 2016
    Am going to watch Jezza Vs Owen Who on iplayer in a sec.

    How much popcorn will I need? ;)
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,666
    MP_SE said:

    RobD said:

    MP_SE said:

    chestnut said:

    Owen Smith, going down like a bag of sick in large parts of Labour Brexit land.

    I can't believe I missed out on what sounds like a thoroughly entertaining episode of Question Time.

    https://twitter.com/Michael_Heaver/status/773983360515473408
    It'll be on iPlayer for your viewing pleasure :D
    I will have to stop off at Sainsburys and buy several large bags of popcorn first.
    I think they've jacked up the prices again... £50/oz when I last checked...
  • MP_SEMP_SE Posts: 3,642
    Paul_Bedfordshire said:

    The bitter in remainers latest stunt is going to be standing outside the albert hall giving free EU flags to concert goers in the hope of persuading them to wave EU flags instead of the Union Flag.

    Its a bit sad really.

    https://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/sep/07/pro-eu-protest-planned-for-last-night-of-the-proms

    A very strange bunch of people.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    GIN1138 said:

    Am going to watch Jezza Vs Owen Who on iplayer in a sec.

    How much popcorn will I need? ;)

    If you hated the Brown government then plenty.
    Smith reminded me of the worst moments of the 2007-2010 government.
  • HaroldOHaroldO Posts: 1,185
    Mortimer said:

    HaroldO said:

    This whole grammar schools ploy must be May getting it under the radar whilst Labour fight so she can shift to the centre for the rest of the parliament whilst the hard right chew on having a little bit of the 1950's back....right?

    Shock horror - Grammar schools are now popular.

    For some yes, I support some kind of streaming as it benefited my family massively. Before my parents generation we were all working class, labourers and servants, but the grammar schools lifted us out of the and into the middle class.
    Dontchaknow.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 39,449
    chestnut said:

    Labour debate incorporates an argument about the death of all Jews?

    Is the debate between those who argue it never happened vs those who think it was a good thing?
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,966
    tlg86 said:

    Smith really is looking like a complete twat.

    HD is good isnt it.

    SO your guy took a hell of a beating!!!


    My favourite bit was when Corbyn gets mobbed at the end Owen who stood on his own decides to walk off stage looking for a supporter
  • HaroldOHaroldO Posts: 1,185
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    HaroldO said:

    This whole grammar schools ploy must be May getting it under the radar whilst Labour fight so she can shift to the centre for the rest of the parliament whilst the hard right chew on having a little bit of the 1950's back....right?

    Hmm.... The Treaty of Rome dates from 1958 after all....
    If steam trains come back onto the mainline as part of this time travel, my dad will be happy. Although diesels will always have a special place in his heart as his father was a shunter driver in a rail yard.
    Although he said my grandad seemed to mainly make tea and talk with the other drivers when he visited him. British Rail.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    bigjohnowls said:

    tlg86 said:

    Smith really is looking like a complete twat.

    HD is good isnt it.

    SO your guy took a hell of a beating!!!


    My favourite bit was when Corbyn gets mobbed at the end Owen who stood on his own decides to walk off stage looking for a supporter
    I can hear Don Brind already: "IT'S CLOSER THAN YOU THINK"
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 66,575
    GIN1138 said:

    Am going to watch Jezza Vs Owen Who on iplayer in a sec.

    How much popcorn will I need? ;)

    You won't be able to find enough in the Country after that depressing display of the dying embers of the labour party. I find it very sad and I am a conservative who should be over the moon
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,966
    Speedy said:

    bigjohnowls said:

    tlg86 said:

    Smith really is looking like a complete twat.

    HD is good isnt it.

    SO your guy took a hell of a beating!!!


    My favourite bit was when Corbyn gets mobbed at the end Owen who stood on his own decides to walk off stage looking for a supporter
    I can hear Don Brind already: "IT'S CLOSER THAN YOU THINK"
    It maybe closer than I think.

    The Compliance Unit will have a lot more Corbynites banged to rights tonight.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,666
    edited September 2016
    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-is-trump-gaining-on-clinton/

    They ask incredulously...
  • TonyETonyE Posts: 938
    Speedy said:

    TonyE said:

    I really didn't think that anyone could make Jeremy Corbyn look like a competent politician.

    Bravo Owen Smith, you have proved you're at least good for one thing.

    I was one of the first who noticed it back in early July.

    As I said many times Corbyn wins by default because his enemies make him look good by comparison.
    In the end there's onky one winner from that debacle, God must surely be smiling on the vicar's daughter!
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,619
    TonyE said:

    I really didn't think that anyone could make Jeremy Corbyn look like a competent politician.

    Bravo Owen Smith, you have proved you're at least good for one thing.

    Oh to be a fly on the wall in No.10 watching this tonight. The PM must be laughing her head off at those two clowns, that early election she dismissed must be tempting.
  • HurstLlamaHurstLlama Posts: 9,098
    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Am going to watch Jezza Vs Owen Who on iplayer in a sec.

    How much popcorn will I need? ;)

    You won't be able to find enough in the Country after that depressing display of the dying embers of the labour party. I find it very sad and I am a conservative who should be over the moon
    Big G, Would you fancy a modest wager that the polls over the next couple of weeks will continue to show Labour hovering around the 30% mark?
  • MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034
    Paul_Bedfordshire said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    chestnut said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    I was in Mosborough/Crystal Peaks this evening, you wouldn't know there was a by election on

    Sheffield's curious love of naming places after porn stars...Crystal Peaks...PenisTone
    Penistone is Dingeland*, not Sheffield

    *Barnsley to the rest of the world
    Penistone sounds more like Dong land than Dingeland
    Is Penistone any relation to Edstone?
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    RobD said:

    How long until Harry is back? :o

    I think it was going to be a couple of months while he works through his analysis of the new boundaries.
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