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@GuidoFawkes: How the British Empire Beats the EU for Olympic Medals https://t.co/FKica8FdIA https://t.co/jRZYwezHUFMP_SE said:The EU Parliament needs to bugger off. Claiming all our medals as their own...
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Morris_Dancer said:
Miss JGP, no, which is why you can be confident that Dead Weight is the most brilliant I have ever written.
I did wonder. Your remark seemed to invite the question (I would say it seemed to 'beg the question' but I don't know whether that is the actual meaning of the phrase or not, and I do know we have purists on the matter on PB). 0 -
@Big_G_NorthWales
'The receptionist, who had worked in London, said that the UK is a strong country and has the 'balls' (her words) to leave.'
Strange ! My wife & daughter had similar experiences in the south of France last month,people congratulating them & saying how fortunate they were to be leaving the EU etc.
My wife who is a French national found it particularly amusing as she was a reluctant non-voting Remainer & my daughter voted Remain..0 -
LOL. Does 'best' = 'only'? Just asking ...Morris_Dancer said:Incidentally, as people have pondered the deep mystery that is Thaddeus White, I have heard he has a new story in an anthology due out on 2 September, entitled Explorations: Through the Wormhole. [The story is called Dead Weight].
It's the best Chinese sci-fi short story I have ever written.0 -
Except that logic suggests that in team sports, a team made up of the best of the EU should be stronger than a team from any one of its constituent nations?MP_SE said:
Ignoring the inclusion of the UK, I think the bigggest and most idiotic mistake was that IF the EU was a single country they would not be able to field anyway near the number of candidates the member states fielded. It would be safe to assume the total medal count would be significantly less.JonathanD said:
You could take all the UK medals off that figure and the EU would still be top and the UK not showing in the top 3.MP_SE said:The EU Parliament needs to bugger off. Claiming all our medals as their own...
https://twitter.com/EuroGuido/status/767705150723063809
Not that it isn't a ridiculous tweet.0 -
MP_SE said:
Ignoring the inclusion of the UK, I think the bigggest and most idiotic mistake was that IF the EU was a single country they would not be able to field anyway near the number of candidates the member states fielded. It would be safe to assume the total medal count would be significantly less.JonathanD said:
You could take all the UK medals off that figure and the EU would still be top and the UK not showing in the top 3.MP_SE said:The EU Parliament needs to bugger off. Claiming all our medals as their own...
https://twitter.com/EuroGuido/status/767705150723063809
Not that it isn't a ridiculous tweet.
And as you reduced it to the number of allowed candidates from the EU, you could not retrospectively assume only the winners would be the ones that would have gone to the games. So the medal tally would be reduced further.
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No, it's devaluation of a floating independent currency that forces a country to face up to their long-term problems. It's done automatically as financial markets reduce the relative value of wages and wealth paid/held in that country's currency. There are no long meetings or negotiations required to agree that, it just happens.williamglenn said:
Define 'gone the way of Greece'? My version is 'forced to face up to their long-term problems whether they like it or not'.Wulfrun_Phil said:As it is, in 10 years time and possibly much sooner Italy will have gone the way of Greece barring an end to the single currency.
All the Euro does is to force a country such as Italy to avoid using the simplest and most comprehensive mechanism that will allow it to face up to or at least deal with its problems.
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Including areas that were never simultaneously part of the empire is far more ridiculous than the EU table.Scott_P said:
@GuidoFawkes: How the British Empire Beats the EU for Olympic Medals https://t.co/FKica8FdIA https://t.co/jRZYwezHUFMP_SE said:The EU Parliament needs to bugger off. Claiming all our medals as their own...
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So a trashy currency cures all economic ills? Who knew?Wulfrun_Phil said:
No, it's devaluation of a floating independent currency that forces a country to face up to their long-term problems. It's done automatically as financial markets reduce the relative value of wages and wealth paid/held in that country's currency. There are no long meetings or negotiations required to agree that, it just happens.williamglenn said:
Define 'gone the way of Greece'? My version is 'forced to face up to their long-term problems whether they like it or not'.Wulfrun_Phil said:As it is, in 10 years time and possibly much sooner Italy will have gone the way of Greece barring an end to the single currency.
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Mr. Llama, it's about two and a half thousand pixels by eighteen hundred.
Worth noting it's a trilogy, so most places are just on the map rather than visited in the story in book 1.
Mr. T/Miss JGP, and thus was have reaffirmed both the honesty of myself and the excellence of my writing
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There market, of course, does not always play ball.Wulfrun_Phil said:
No, it's devaluation of a floating independent currency that forces a country to face up to their long-term problems. It's done automatically as financial markets reduce the relative value of wages and wealth paid/held in that country's currency. There are no long meetings or negotiations required to agree that, it just happens.williamglenn said:
Define 'gone the way of Greece'? My version is 'forced to face up to their long-term problems whether they like it or not'.Wulfrun_Phil said:As it is, in 10 years time and possibly much sooner Italy will have gone the way of Greece barring an end to the single currency.
All the Euro does is to force a country such as Italy to avoid using the simplest and most comprehensive mechanism that will allow it to face up to or at least deal with its problems.
Italy runs a sizeable current account surplus, so it's entirely possible that - like Japan - it works end up with a stronger currency than their government would like.0 -
No, because cohesion and team spirit and language barriers and training logistics and a million and one other things. Look at the body language of both the winners and the losers after the hockey - no supranational team would have looked or behaved anything like that.IanB2 said:
Except that logic suggests that in team sports, a team made up of the best of the EU should be stronger than a team from any one of its constituent nations?MP_SE said:
Ignoring the inclusion of the UK, I think the bigggest and most idiotic mistake was that IF the EU was a single country they would not be able to field anyway near the number of candidates the member states fielded. It would be safe to assume the total medal count would be significantly less.JonathanD said:
You could take all the UK medals off that figure and the EU would still be top and the UK not showing in the top 3.MP_SE said:The EU Parliament needs to bugger off. Claiming all our medals as their own...
https://twitter.com/EuroGuido/status/767705150723063809
Not that it isn't a ridiculous tweet.0 -
Is that because, like the hero of "I, the Supreme" (dictator José Gaspar Rodríguez de Francia), you ordered a 1:1 scale map?Morris_Dancer said:the proper map for Kingdom Asunder is too big to include in the book
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It's a much better option than continuing to order caviar when you can only afford baked beans. Or stalling the car rather than changing down a gear.williamglenn said:
So a trashy currency cures all economic ills? Who knew?Wulfrun_Phil said:
No, it's devaluation of a floating independent currency that forces a country to face up to their long-term problems. It's done automatically as financial markets reduce the relative value of wages and wealth paid/held in that country's currency. There are no long meetings or negotiations required to agree that, it just happens.williamglenn said:
Define 'gone the way of Greece'? My version is 'forced to face up to their long-term problems whether they like it or not'.Wulfrun_Phil said:As it is, in 10 years time and possibly much sooner Italy will have gone the way of Greece barring an end to the single currency.
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If there were an EU team, they would presumably train together for 4 years and build team spirit etc, rather than just be thrown together for the olympics?Ishmael_X said:
No, because cohesion and team spirit and language barriers and training logistics and a million and one other things. Look at the body language of both the winners and the losers after the hockey - no supranational team would have looked or behaved anything like that.IanB2 said:
Except that logic suggests that in team sports, a team made up of the best of the EU should be stronger than a team from any one of its constituent nations?MP_SE said:
Ignoring the inclusion of the UK, I think the bigggest and most idiotic mistake was that IF the EU was a single country they would not be able to field anyway near the number of candidates the member states fielded. It would be safe to assume the total medal count would be significantly less.JonathanD said:
You could take all the UK medals off that figure and the EU would still be top and the UK not showing in the top 3.MP_SE said:The EU Parliament needs to bugger off. Claiming all our medals as their own...
https://twitter.com/EuroGuido/status/767705150723063809
Not that it isn't a ridiculous tweet.0 -
Reports of a machete attack in Brussels.
twitter.com/Independent/status/7677541939857571850 -
Mr. T, alas, no.
I wanted a moderately detailed map of a whole kingdom (it's still just major cities, mountain ranges etc, though) to help me with consistency. The map for Journey to Altmortis only had about six places on it. This has over 30, not including castles.
Including it in the book would make the details too small to make out, so I'll chop the most relevant bit (the Mere) and include that. Assuming I can actually format an Open Office document for self-publication....0 -
The EU has a poor track record when it comes to decision making, targeted funding, etc., so I cannot see it working.IanB2 said:
Except that logic suggests that in team sports, a team made up of the best of the EU should be stronger than a team from any one of its constituent nations?MP_SE said:
Ignoring the inclusion of the UK, I think the bigggest and most idiotic mistake was that IF the EU was a single country they would not be able to field anyway near the number of candidates the member states fielded. It would be safe to assume the total medal count would be significantly less.JonathanD said:
You could take all the UK medals off that figure and the EU would still be top and the UK not showing in the top 3.MP_SE said:The EU Parliament needs to bugger off. Claiming all our medals as their own...
https://twitter.com/EuroGuido/status/767705150723063809
Not that it isn't a ridiculous tweet.0 -
As much as the EU loves the EU, it is never going to replace national teams. That would probably destroy it!JonnyJimmy said:
If there were an EU team, they would presumably train together for 4 years and build team spirit etc, rather than just be thrown together for the olympics?Ishmael_X said:
No, because cohesion and team spirit and language barriers and training logistics and a million and one other things. Look at the body language of both the winners and the losers after the hockey - no supranational team would have looked or behaved anything like that.IanB2 said:
Except that logic suggests that in team sports, a team made up of the best of the EU should be stronger than a team from any one of its constituent nations?MP_SE said:
Ignoring the inclusion of the UK, I think the bigggest and most idiotic mistake was that IF the EU was a single country they would not be able to field anyway near the number of candidates the member states fielded. It would be safe to assume the total medal count would be significantly less.JonathanD said:
You could take all the UK medals off that figure and the EU would still be top and the UK not showing in the top 3.MP_SE said:The EU Parliament needs to bugger off. Claiming all our medals as their own...
https://twitter.com/EuroGuido/status/767705150723063809
Not that it isn't a ridiculous tweet.0 -
https://www.rt.com/news/356750-brussels-stabbing-attack-woman/AndyJS said:Reports of a machete attack in Brussels.
twitter.com/Independent/status/767754193985757185
Police sources have told RTBF that the woman was Asian and had a history of mental illness. Investigators do not currently believe that this was a terrorist incident.0 -
Up to a point, but think of the logistics of getting together for training sessions. Big place these days, the EU.JonnyJimmy said:
If there were an EU team, they would presumably train together for 4 years and build team spirit etc, rather than just be thrown together for the olympics?Ishmael_X said:
No, because cohesion and team spirit and language barriers and training logistics and a million and one other things. Look at the body language of both the winners and the losers after the hockey - no supranational team would have looked or behaved anything like that.IanB2 said:
Except that logic suggests that in team sports, a team made up of the best of the EU should be stronger than a team from any one of its constituent nations?MP_SE said:
Ignoring the inclusion of the UK, I think the bigggest and most idiotic mistake was that IF the EU was a single country they would not be able to field anyway near the number of candidates the member states fielded. It would be safe to assume the total medal count would be significantly less.JonathanD said:
You could take all the UK medals off that figure and the EU would still be top and the UK not showing in the top 3.MP_SE said:The EU Parliament needs to bugger off. Claiming all our medals as their own...
https://twitter.com/EuroGuido/status/767705150723063809
Not that it isn't a ridiculous tweet.0 -
Fire up the Massey FergusonPulpstar said:
@Malcolmg Would have a whole armyRichard_Nabavi said:Don is very good at providing articles showing why it would be good for the Labour Party if Smith were to win (or, at least, Corbyn to lose). But:
If wishes were horses, beggars would ride
If turnips were swords I'd have one by my side.
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One also wonders whether the athletes selected to represent the EU would owe their selection to politics rather than ability.MarkHopkins said:MP_SE said:
Ignoring the inclusion of the UK, I think the bigggest and most idiotic mistake was that IF the EU was a single country they would not be able to field anyway near the number of candidates the member states fielded. It would be safe to assume the total medal count would be significantly less.JonathanD said:
You could take all the UK medals off that figure and the EU would still be top and the UK not showing in the top 3.MP_SE said:The EU Parliament needs to bugger off. Claiming all our medals as their own...
https://twitter.com/EuroGuido/status/767705150723063809
Not that it isn't a ridiculous tweet.
And as you reduced it to the number of allowed candidates from the EU, you could not retrospectively assume only the winners would be the ones that would have gone to the games. So the medal tally would be reduced further.0 -
Mr. JS, sad to hear, yet not surprising.
Mr. Glenn, of course not. I imagine her name was David.0 -
Woman known locally as Marie.williamglenn said:
https://www.rt.com/news/356750-brussels-stabbing-attack-woman/AndyJS said:Reports of a machete attack in Brussels.
twitter.com/Independent/status/767754193985757185
Police sources have told RTBF that the woman was Asian and had a history of mental illness. Investigators do not currently believe that this was a terrorist incident.0 -
I see the pound is up against the euro today. Must be all that South American gold.0
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Evening all,
Just catching up. Seems the arrival of ballot papers has let the furies loose across Labour. This from an MP:
@TomBlenkinsop
Just had corbynite from Warrington phone my office & threaten to "punch your f***ing face in" to a member of my staff @GentlerPolitics0 -
There would be decades of bickering over where to base the training grounds. They would most probably go with multiple locations with all the equipment moved back and forth by train which ends up wasting tens of millions of euros and disrupting the athletes training.Ishmael_X said:
Up to a point, but think of the logistics of getting together for training sessions. Big place these days, the EU.JonnyJimmy said:
If there were an EU team, they would presumably train together for 4 years and build team spirit etc, rather than just be thrown together for the olympics?Ishmael_X said:
No, because cohesion and team spirit and language barriers and training logistics and a million and one other things. Look at the body language of both the winners and the losers after the hockey - no supranational team would have looked or behaved anything like that.IanB2 said:
Except that logic suggests that in team sports, a team made up of the best of the EU should be stronger than a team from any one of its constituent nations?MP_SE said:
Ignoring the inclusion of the UK, I think the bigggest and most idiotic mistake was that IF the EU was a single country they would not be able to field anyway near the number of candidates the member states fielded. It would be safe to assume the total medal count would be significantly less.JonathanD said:
You could take all the UK medals off that figure and the EU would still be top and the UK not showing in the top 3.MP_SE said:The EU Parliament needs to bugger off. Claiming all our medals as their own...
https://twitter.com/EuroGuido/status/767705150723063809
Not that it isn't a ridiculous tweet.0 -
One hardly even has to wonder that. One certainly doesn't have to wonder whether the selectors will be selected politically.AnneJGP said:
One also wonders whether the athletes selected to represent the EU would owe their selection to politics rather than ability.MarkHopkins said:MP_SE said:
Ignoring the inclusion of the UK, I think the bigggest and most idiotic mistake was that IF the EU was a single country they would not be able to field anyway near the number of candidates the member states fielded. It would be safe to assume the total medal count would be significantly less.JonathanD said:
You could take all the UK medals off that figure and the EU would still be top and the UK not showing in the top 3.MP_SE said:The EU Parliament needs to bugger off. Claiming all our medals as their own...
https://twitter.com/EuroGuido/status/767705150723063809
Not that it isn't a ridiculous tweet.
And as you reduced it to the number of allowed candidates from the EU, you could not retrospectively assume only the winners would be the ones that would have gone to the games. So the medal tally would be reduced further.
The tweet invites the reponse: so are you proposing an EU team at Tokyo, and if not why not?0 -
Sounds like a clear acknowledgement that the UK is a baked beans economy - and some want to damage it even more by leaving the single market completely.Wulfrun_Phil said:
It's a much better option than continuing to order caviar when you can only afford baked beans. Or stalling the car rather than changing down a gear.williamglenn said:
So a trashy currency cures all economic ills? Who knew?Wulfrun_Phil said:
No, it's devaluation of a floating independent currency that forces a country to face up to their long-term problems. It's done automatically as financial markets reduce the relative value of wages and wealth paid/held in that country's currency. There are no long meetings or negotiations required to agree that, it just happens.williamglenn said:
Define 'gone the way of Greece'? My version is 'forced to face up to their long-term problems whether they like it or not'.Wulfrun_Phil said:As it is, in 10 years time and possibly much sooner Italy will have gone the way of Greece barring an end to the single currency.
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As the cases build up, ISTM that a new category is needed. These individuals with mental health problems who are radicalised may not count as terrorists themselves, but they have surely been turned into weapons by terrorists?MTimT said:
Woman known locally as Marie.williamglenn said:
https://www.rt.com/news/356750-brussels-stabbing-attack-woman/AndyJS said:Reports of a machete attack in Brussels.
twitter.com/Independent/status/767754193985757185
Police sources have told RTBF that the woman was Asian and had a history of mental illness. Investigators do not currently believe that this was a terrorist incident.0 -
Miss JGP, they're the modern equivalent of cannon fodder. Still in the enemy 'army', mind.
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Spoken to my mate about this problem and he suggested a solution, one of these modern projectors - fag packet size, about fifty quid from amazon and will project from a mobile phone. Use the projector to put the map onto the ceiling and turn on/off as needed. Quite a neat answer, I thought. Going to make you book sodding expensive, but better than being figuratively lost in the narrative.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Llama, it's about two and a half thousand pixels by eighteen hundred.
Worth noting it's a trilogy, so most places are just on the map rather than visited in the story in book 1.
Mr. T/Miss JGP, and thus was have reaffirmed both the honesty of myself and the excellence of my writing
So do carry on with your plan Mr. Dancer.0 -
Mr. Llama, probably more sensible to print off a map
Also, do get back to me with an answer about the cropped maps I sent you.0 -
Mr. D, I sent you an answer weeks ago.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Llama, probably more sensible to print off a map
Also, do get back to me with an answer about the cropped maps I sent you.0 -
Yep. The section of the PLP that is weighing in - far from the mjority who signed the no-confidence motion - is barely bothering to campaign positively for Smith, and as some here have said see him as a staging post to a centrist leader later on. Their whole effort has been marked by cynicism, from the attempt to keep ~Corbyn off the ballot to the disenfranchisement of 20% of the members - and if Smith were to win there is a real risk that it would be seen by many members as an illegitimate stitch-up and a prolonged internal feud would follow.Pulpstar said:Sorry this is just like "Not Trump" for the Labour party.
Corbyn: 16 mentions
Smith: 5.
What is actually good about OWEN SMITH.
That's what I'd want to know if I was a Labour member with a ballot.
I agree with Don that the Khan intervention will help Smith and that the result will be closer than it looked two weeks ago. But I've yet to meet a single member of any wing who is positively enthused by the challenge (I know several centrists who plan not to vote at all), and I think that will make him fall short by a reasonable margin - 53-47 or 54-46.0 -
Indeed. But, snide comments like mine aside, there is also another explanation for such acts, that of seeing one example as being 'permission' to do the same. Some while ago in there was a suicide over unrequited love in a Pacific island with no particular history of suicide. Over the coming years, there was something of an epidemic of lovesick suicides. The index case was later assessed both to have planted the idea and to have convinced other youngsters that this was acceptable practice, giving them 'permission'. I think there is an element of that too in the high school shootings in the US, i.e. those that followed Columbine.AnneJGP said:
As the cases build up, ISTM that a new category is needed. These individuals with mental health problems who are radicalised may not count as terrorists themselves, but they have surely been turned into weapons by terrorists?MTimT said:
Woman known locally as Marie.williamglenn said:
https://www.rt.com/news/356750-brussels-stabbing-attack-woman/AndyJS said:Reports of a machete attack in Brussels.
twitter.com/Independent/status/767754193985757185
Police sources have told RTBF that the woman was Asian and had a history of mental illness. Investigators do not currently believe that this was a terrorist incident.
Can't quite put my hands on the references.0 -
Mr. Llama, odd. Can't see it anywhere. If you could just send me a quick Vanilla message, I'd be grateful.
[Now and then the e-mail filter can be over the top. I even had a reply to an e-mail I sent diverted into a spam folder, but I have checked there for your reply and found nothing].
Ahem, sorry for this diversion, everyone.
In more relevant news, the first markets for Spa are up on Ladbrokes.
Verstappen and Ricciardo 11 to win. Hmm.0 -
Huh, I thought this had been put on the back burner:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/22/new-british-bill-of-rights-will-not-be-scrapped-insists-liz-trus/
On the EU parliament tweet. No longer just a 'random' PR company doing it, is it? I swear they posted that just to annoy us...0 -
There's this more recent phenomenon.MTimT said:
Indeed. But, snide comments like mine aside, there is also another explanation for such acts, that of seeing one example as being 'permission' to do the same. Some while ago in there was a suicide over unrequited love in a Pacific island with no particular history of suicide. Over the coming years, there was something of an epidemic of lovesick suicides. The index case was later assessed both to have planted the idea and to have convinced other youngsters that this was acceptable practice, giving them 'permission'. I think there is an element of that too in the high school shootings in the US, i.e. those that followed Columbine.AnneJGP said:
As the cases build up, ISTM that a new category is needed. These individuals with mental health problems who are radicalised may not count as terrorists themselves, but they have surely been turned into weapons by terrorists?MTimT said:
Woman known locally as Marie.williamglenn said:
https://www.rt.com/news/356750-brussels-stabbing-attack-woman/AndyJS said:Reports of a machete attack in Brussels.
twitter.com/Independent/status/767754193985757185
Police sources have told RTBF that the woman was Asian and had a history of mental illness. Investigators do not currently believe that this was a terrorist incident.
Can't quite put my hands on the references.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/canada-indigenous-suicide-crisis_us_570e78e5e4b03d8b7b9f173a0 -
Some federalists in the EU will, no doubt, see that as a sign of the strength of the EU, but, actually, it's indicative of that of the sovereign nation states of Europe.JonathanD said:
You could take all the UK medals off that figure and the EU would still be top and the UK not showing in the top 3.MP_SE said:The EU Parliament needs to bugger off. Claiming all our medals as their own...
https://twitter.com/EuroGuido/status/767705150723063809
Not that it isn't a ridiculous tweet.
If the same European athletes were all competing under the EU flag, with federal EU institutions funding and developing sport, I doubt performance would at the Olympics would match anything like that, nor would the crowds, support and passion be there in the same levels behind them.
Europe's strength is its national diversity.
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God, what a half wit, conflating the Commonwealth with the Empire. From a government whip too.
https://twitter.com/HeatherWheeler/status/7677563212193792010 -
Well most former Empire countries are in the Commonwealth, so it isn't totally wrong. I'm sure Sunil can let us know which sorry countries have yet to applyTheScreamingEagles said:God, what a half wit, conflating the Commonwealth with the Empire. From a government whip too.
twitter.com/HeatherWheeler/status/767756321219379201 0 -
Mr. Eagles, halfwit is one word.
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Well that's what you get when you select candidates on the basis of them having ovaries.TheScreamingEagles said:God, what a half wit, conflating the Commonwealth with the Empire. From a government whip too.
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Does she really still include the Thirteen Colonies coloured in pink on her map???TheScreamingEagles said:God, what a half wit, conflating the Commonwealth with the Empire. From a government whip too.
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Yes, a good point. The EU is certainly not any stronger than it was 15 years ago, despite all the integration.Casino_Royale said:
Europe's strength is its national diversity.JonathanD said:
You could take all the UK medals off that figure and the EU would still be top and the UK not showing in the top 3.MP_SE said:The EU Parliament needs to bugger off. Claiming all our medals as their own...
https://twitter.com/EuroGuido/status/767705150723063809
Not that it isn't a ridiculous tweet.
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This is PB. Of course she can be totally wrong. Goddammit man, we can't let standards slide and let some Conservative numpty conflate the Commonwealth with the Empire. We'd be no better than the Labour party.RobD said:
Well most former Empire countries are in the Commonwealth, so it isn't totally wrong. I'm sure Sunil can let us know which sorry countries have yet to applyTheScreamingEagles said:God, what a half wit, conflating the Commonwealth with the Empire. From a government whip too.
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Interesting discussion on ESPN today about the top US sports brands that are popular even when they're in a down cycle, and when they get good, they explode to the most popular team in their sport.
The NBA has 2 - Lakers and Celtics.
Baseball has 1 - the Yankees
College football has 1 - Notre Dame
College basketball has 1 - Duke
NFL has 3 - Packers, Steelers and Cowboys.
The Cowboys have been irrelevant for years and still are the most valuable franchise.
There are other franchises who are close but these are the top 8.0 -
That's Guido's map. And it's from the anachronistic map of the Empire on the wikipedia article.MarqueeMark said:
Does she really still include the Thirteen Colonies coloured in pink on her map???TheScreamingEagles said:God, what a half wit, conflating the Commonwealth with the Empire. From a government whip too.
twitter.com/HeatherWheeler/status/767756321219379201
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Empire
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I think there are members of the British Commonwealth that were never part of the Empire per se, they just asked to join for the company.RobD said:
Well most former Empire countries are in the Commonwealth, so it isn't totally wrong. I'm sure Sunil can let us know which sorry countries have yet to applyTheScreamingEagles said:God, what a half wit, conflating the Commonwealth with the Empire. From a government whip too.
twitter.com/HeatherWheeler/status/767756321219379201
Re: Wheeler, silly mistake by one who should know better.0 -
The rumor is that Britain wants the US back as a colony. They have conquered Major League Soccer alreadyMarqueeMark said:
Does she really still include the Thirteen Colonies coloured in pink on her map???TheScreamingEagles said:God, what a half wit, conflating the Commonwealth with the Empire. From a government whip too.
https://twitter.com/HeatherWheeler/status/767756321219379201
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Just seen Finding Dory.
For an "it's not supposed to be a children's film" film it was super-disappointing.0 -
Well the EU "country" would be subject the entry limits so they'd only be able send ~500 athletes vs ~3500 for the combined 28 nations. That alone would reduce the number of medals. Take the men's eight rowers, we won gold and Germany won silver, that's two medals which converts to one after turning the 28 nations into a single one.Casino_Royale said:
Some federalists in the EU will, no doubt, see that as a sign of the strength of the EU, but, actually, it's indicative of that of the sovereign nation states of Europe.JonathanD said:
You could take all the UK medals off that figure and the EU would still be top and the UK not showing in the top 3.MP_SE said:The EU Parliament needs to bugger off. Claiming all our medals as their own...
https://twitter.com/EuroGuido/status/767705150723063809
Not that it isn't a ridiculous tweet.
If the same European athletes were all competing under the EU flag, with federal EU institutions funding and developing sport, I doubt performance would at the Olympics would match anything like that, nor would the crowds, support and passion be there in the same levels behind them.
Europe's strength is its national diversity.
Additionally, there would be far too much politics involved in team selection. Every country/region would want a quota which means the ~500 or so best athletes across the continent wouldn't necessarily get picked.
It's a terrible idea and you're right, Europe's (not the EU) strength is national diversity and varying cultures. The straight jacket of the EU is stifling creativity and innovation.0 -
It's nice to see the Brexit MPs working hard to preserve the Special Relationship... between the US and France.Tim_B said:
The rumor is that Britain wants the US back as a colony. They have conquered Major League Soccer alreadyMarqueeMark said:
Does she really still include the Thirteen Colonies coloured in pink on her map???TheScreamingEagles said:God, what a half wit, conflating the Commonwealth with the Empire. From a government whip too.
https://twitter.com/HeatherWheeler/status/7677563212193792010 -
It's a straight jacket that seems to impinge on the mind rather than the body, of some at least.MaxPB said:It's a terrible idea and you're right, Europe's (not the EU) strength is national diversity and varying cultures. The straight jacket of the EU is stifling creativity and innovation.
For the majority, the efforts of the EU to harmonise things creates a net decrease in the amount of government interference they need to worry about.0 -
So we have reports of another locally known as diane....we also have this charming story.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3753225/Boy-eight-dies-GRENADE-thrown-bedroom-slept-amid-gangland-feud-involving-Somali-criminals-Sweden.html0 -
The EU is weaker than it has ever been because the eurocrats want to force their ideas onto the people. Brexit was a reaction to that, and Italy's rejection of their constitutional referendum will also be partly a reaction to the EU. The EU is loathed across the continent, people accept it because it is economically beneficial, as soon as that stops being the case the EU will fall apart. Italy is the most interesting case. Banks that they are unable to recapitalise in the same way Germany did, a currency far too strong for them and stagnation all around.JonathanD said:
Yes, a good point. The EU is certainly not any stronger than it was 15 years ago, despite all the integration.Casino_Royale said:
Europe's strength is its national diversity.JonathanD said:
You could take all the UK medals off that figure and the EU would still be top and the UK not showing in the top 3.MP_SE said:The EU Parliament needs to bugger off. Claiming all our medals as their own...
https://twitter.com/EuroGuido/status/767705150723063809
Not that it isn't a ridiculous tweet.0 -
Harmonisation means regulation. That is not a decrease in government intervention, it is an increase.williamglenn said:
It's a straight jacket that seems to impinge on the mind rather than the body, of some at least.MaxPB said:It's a terrible idea and you're right, Europe's (not the EU) strength is national diversity and varying cultures. The straight jacket of the EU is stifling creativity and innovation.
For the majority, the efforts of the EU to harmonise things creates a net decrease in the amount of government interference they need to worry about.0 -
Just received an email from Amazon Prime advertising their pilot season.
One show that caught my eye is called "I LOVE DICK" which I naturally assumed to be a porn show. Apparently it's not, but a 'feminist novel' adaptation starring Kevin Bacon, from whom I am either zero or 1 degree separated (I've met him, but don't know the game rules).0 -
I believe having met him is one degree of separation. Zero degrees would mean that you ARE Kevin Bacon.Tim_B said:Just received an email from Amazon Prime advertising their pilot season.
One show that caught my eye is called "I LOVE DICK" which I naturally assumed to be a porn show. Apparently it's not, but a 'feminist novel' adaptation starring Kevin Bacon, from whom I am either zero or 1 degree separated (I've met him, but don't know the game rules).0 -
I thought orginal game wasn't if you met him, it was getting from any actor to him via movies people had worked together on?0
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It's like when Michael Jackson declared himself a fan of Free Willy, and one's reaction was: surely he can afford to pay for it?Tim_B said:Just received an email from Amazon Prime advertising their pilot season.
One show that caught my eye is called "I LOVE DICK" which I naturally assumed to be a porn show. Apparently it's not, but a 'feminist novel' adaptation starring Kevin Bacon, from whom I am either zero or 1 degree separated (I've met him, but don't know the game rules).0 -
I am surprised the Red Sox don't make that list of franchises that are supported through the lean years. Of course, they have a very limited upside, being from Boston.Tim_B said:Interesting discussion on ESPN today about the top US sports brands that are popular even when they're in a down cycle, and when they get good, they explode to the most popular team in their sport.
The NBA has 2 - Lakers and Celtics.
Baseball has 1 - the Yankees
College football has 1 - Notre Dame
College basketball has 1 - Duke
NFL has 3 - Packers, Steelers and Cowboys.
The Cowboys have been irrelevant for years and still are the most valuable franchise.
There are other franchises who are close but these are the top 8.0 -
If I was Kevin Bacon I'd be married to Kyra Sedgwick, not the sort of thing one tends to forget. Also I would have got ripped off millions by Bernie Madoff, also memorable.Philip_Thompson said:
I believe having met him is one degree of separation. Zero degrees would mean that you ARE Kevin Bacon.Tim_B said:Just received an email from Amazon Prime advertising their pilot season.
One show that caught my eye is called "I LOVE DICK" which I naturally assumed to be a porn show. Apparently it's not, but a 'feminist novel' adaptation starring Kevin Bacon, from whom I am either zero or 1 degree separated (I've met him, but don't know the game rules).
So one degree it is.0 -
We can't and shouldn't rely on them getting their act togethergrabcocque said:
I think I'd rather be right than happy any day. Sadly, I fear the EU27 are only locking themselves into an every tighter spiral of endless crisis and decline.weejonnie said:
No - but wishing won't change the facts on the ground (Unless you are a Corbyn Supporter)John_M said:Am I alone in wishing our EU27 neighbours a resoundingly successful conclusion to EMU, a thriving economy and healthy markets? I'm jolly keen on trading with them.
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I "visited" ie drove through Gary, Indiana his home town last year. It was an eye opening experience to say the least.Ishmael_X said:
It's like when Michael Jackson declared himself a fan of Free Willy, and one's reaction was: surely he can afford to pay for it?Tim_B said:Just received an email from Amazon Prime advertising their pilot season.
One show that caught my eye is called "I LOVE DICK" which I naturally assumed to be a porn show. Apparently it's not, but a 'feminist novel' adaptation starring Kevin Bacon, from whom I am either zero or 1 degree separated (I've met him, but don't know the game rules).0 -
I do.MarqueeMark said:
Does she really still include the Thirteen Colonies coloured in pink on her map???TheScreamingEagles said:God, what a half wit, conflating the Commonwealth with the Empire. From a government whip too.
https://twitter.com/HeatherWheeler/status/7677563212193792010 -
In Mathematics we have the Erdős number which predates Bacon. I was fortunate enough to work with people with an Erdos number of 1.FrancisUrquhart said:I thought orginal game wasn't if you met him, it was getting from any actor to him via movies people had worked together on?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erdős_number0 -
The Red Sox, like most baseball franchises except the Yankees, has regional rather than national appeal, though the BoSox are one of the bigger ones. The Diamondbacks, the Padres or the Indians could win the world series 3 times in a row and nobody would care.MTimT said:
I am surprised the Red Sox don't make that list of franchises that are supported through the lean years. Of course, they have a very limited upside, being from Boston.Tim_B said:Interesting discussion on ESPN today about the top US sports brands that are popular even when they're in a down cycle, and when they get good, they explode to the most popular team in their sport.
The NBA has 2 - Lakers and Celtics.
Baseball has 1 - the Yankees
College football has 1 - Notre Dame
College basketball has 1 - Duke
NFL has 3 - Packers, Steelers and Cowboys.
The Cowboys have been irrelevant for years and still are the most valuable franchise.
There are other franchises who are close but these are the top 8.0 -
I see panorama is back to BBC favourite ......TORY CUUUUUUUUUUTTTTTTS0
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There was a strong rumor that BOYZIIMEN was a delivery service for Michael...Ishmael_X said:
It's like when Michael Jackson declared himself a fan of Free Willy, and one's reaction was: surely he can afford to pay for it?Tim_B said:Just received an email from Amazon Prime advertising their pilot season.
One show that caught my eye is called "I LOVE DICK" which I naturally assumed to be a porn show. Apparently it's not, but a 'feminist novel' adaptation starring Kevin Bacon, from whom I am either zero or 1 degree separated (I've met him, but don't know the game rules).0 -
Setting themselves up for a big decline next time round...John_M said:
As I said at the time, at least they're not pretending they don't want a USE any longer. Flushed 'em out, we have.MP_SE said:The EU Parliament needs to bugger off. Claiming all our medals as their own...
https://twitter.com/EuroGuido/status/7677051507230638090 -
No surprise - Speedo have dropped their sponsorship of Ryan Lochte, and so has Ralph Lauren. More to come I suspect.
My favorite comment was someone saying that the whole Lochte affair was "Loch Mess"0 -
By the way, for those intereted in format - Labour members etc. with a vote on email have received a statement form the two candidates (nothing remarkable in either) plus a picture and a list of CLPs and unions etc. that have endorsed each, with a personalised two-part code for electronic voting - the same system as used for the NEC elections. It all looks scrupulously netural.
We've been getting emailed canvassing letters from both from the same central party address for some weeks, and I've been canvassed by the Corbyn team by phone. Haven't had anything by post from either.0 -
What they ought to do though is to strip out those competitors who wouldn't have been sent if USE were a single country.JonathanD said:
You could take all the UK medals off that figure and the EU would still be top and the UK not showing in the top 3.MP_SE said:The EU Parliament needs to bugger off. Claiming all our medals as their own...
https://twitter.com/EuroGuido/status/767705150723063809
Not that it isn't a ridiculous tweet.
Of course you can't do this just on merit, as you need to achieve a suitable regional and ethnic balance.0 -
I believe that the gold medals are made almost entirely of silverMorris_Dancer said:I see the pound is up against the euro today. Must be all that South American gold.
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Mr. B2, indeed. Better to have smaller medals made of the real metal, but there we are.
Anyway, time for me to be off.0 -
Yes, they are gilded. Very lame.IanB2 said:
I believe that the gold medals are made almost entirely of silverMorris_Dancer said:I see the pound is up against the euro today. Must be all that South American gold.
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BBC - Ryan Lochte: Speedo and Ralph Lauren end sponsorship.
I was wondering what punishment would befit Lochte’s behaviour in Rio. His pocket appears to be the first recipient, which seems fitting. And now for the IOC's turn...
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Wouldn't a solid gold medal be prohibitively expensive?MaxPB said:
Yes, they are gilded. Very lame.IanB2 said:
I believe that the gold medals are made almost entirely of silverMorris_Dancer said:I see the pound is up against the euro today. Must be all that South American gold.
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Just putting this out there. pic.twitter.com/BCygRMQaFw
— Richard Kadrey (@Richard_Kadrey) 21 August 20160 -
He's apparently been suspended for 6 events. As ESPN said, can anybody name any swim events?SimonStClare said:BBC - Ryan Lochte: Speedo and Ralph Lauren end sponsorship.
I was wondering what punishment would befit Lochte’s behaviour in Rio. His pocket appears to be the first recipient, which seems fitting. And now for the IOC's turn...0 -
What an idiot.Tim_B said:No surprise - Speedo have dropped their sponsorship of Ryan Lochte, and so has Ralph Lauren. More to come I suspect.
My favorite comment was someone saying that the whole Lochte affair was "Loch Mess"
"Ryan Lochte Could Lose $10 MILLION In Endorsement Deals Over His Rio Robbery Lie!"
http://perezhilton.com/2016-08-19-rio-olympics-ryan-lochte-robbery-lie-10-million-dollar-loss#.V7tA1TWod5Q0 -
The Paralympics medals will probably be hand-coloured cardboard, made by a bunch of school kids.MaxPB said:
Yes, they are gilded. Very lame.IanB2 said:
I believe that the gold medals are made almost entirely of silverMorris_Dancer said:I see the pound is up against the euro today. Must be all that South American gold.
If they can be arsed to find the school kids.0 -
What an idiot.MP_SE said:
What an idiot.Tim_B said:No surprise - Speedo have dropped their sponsorship of Ryan Lochte, and so has Ralph Lauren. More to come I suspect.
My favorite comment was someone saying that the whole Lochte affair was "Loch Mess"
"Ryan Lochte Could Lose $10 MILLION In Endorsement Deals Over His Rio Robbery Lie!"
http://perezhilton.com/2016-08-19-rio-olympics-ryan-lochte-robbery-lie-10-million-dollar-loss#.V7tA1TWod5Q
Pretty much everyone who knows him (among TV sports folks) has said that Lochte is not exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer.0 -
Made worse by Brexit no doubt, no matter how spurious the link.....FrancisUrquhart said:I see panorama is back to BBC favourite ......TORY CUUUUUUUUUUTTTTTTS
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Mozambique and Rwanda have both joined the Commonwealth, despite not being in the Empire.SimonStClare said:
I think there are members of the British Commonwealth that were never part of the Empire per se, they just asked to join for the company.RobD said:
Well most former Empire countries are in the Commonwealth, so it isn't totally wrong. I'm sure Sunil can let us know which sorry countries have yet to applyTheScreamingEagles said:God, what a half wit, conflating the Commonwealth with the Empire. From a government whip too.
twitter.com/HeatherWheeler/status/767756321219379201
Re: Wheeler, silly mistake by one who should know better.0 -
Maybe they made a value judgment that it's easier to medal in the Commonwealth games than the Olympics.foxinsoxuk said:
Mozambique and Rwanda have both joined the Commonwealth, despite not being in the Empire.SimonStClare said:
I think there are members of the British Commonwealth that were never part of the Empire per se, they just asked to join for the company.RobD said:
Well most former Empire countries are in the Commonwealth, so it isn't totally wrong. I'm sure Sunil can let us know which sorry countries have yet to applyTheScreamingEagles said:God, what a half wit, conflating the Commonwealth with the Empire. From a government whip too.
twitter.com/HeatherWheeler/status/767756321219379201
Re: Wheeler, silly mistake by one who should know better.
It's scary to think that the two biggest sporting events in the world: Olympics and World Cup, are both run by bunches of crooks: the IOC and FIFA.0 -
One more problem with the Olympics which I've not seen mentioned much but wasn't the weather rather crap - several days of it pissing down, some days too windy for rowing and other days too windless for sailing.
I'm not sure if this is normal for Rio or whether it was bad luck.
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Please don't use "medal" as a verb. The correct expression is of course "it's easier to podium in the Commonwealth games..."Tim_B said:
Maybe they made a value judgment that it's easier to medal in the Commonwealth games than the Olympics.foxinsoxuk said:
Mozambique and Rwanda have both joined the Commonwealth, despite not being in the Empire.SimonStClare said:
I think there are members of the British Commonwealth that were never part of the Empire per se, they just asked to join for the company.RobD said:
Well most former Empire countries are in the Commonwealth, so it isn't totally wrong. I'm sure Sunil can let us know which sorry countries have yet to applyTheScreamingEagles said:God, what a half wit, conflating the Commonwealth with the Empire. From a government whip too.
twitter.com/HeatherWheeler/status/767756321219379201
Re: Wheeler, silly mistake by one who should know better.
It's scary to think that the two biggest sporting events in the world: Olympics and World Cup, are both run by bunches of crooks: the IOC and FIFA.0 -
Saying English speaking countries rather than British Empire is much more effective (and it includes the US unlike the Commonwealth)TheScreamingEagles said:God, what a half wit, conflating the Commonwealth with the Empire. From a government whip too.
https://twitter.com/HeatherWheeler/status/7677563212193792010 -
Phelps got suspended for 6 months for DUI...Tim_B said:
He's apparently been suspended for 6 events. As ESPN said, can anybody name any swim events?SimonStClare said:BBC - Ryan Lochte: Speedo and Ralph Lauren end sponsorship.
I was wondering what punishment would befit Lochte’s behaviour in Rio. His pocket appears to be the first recipient, which seems fitting. And now for the IOC's turn...0 -
Thanks for dialoging with me on that.....Ishmael_X said:
Please don't use "medal" as a verb. The correct expression is of course "it's easier to podium in the Commonwealth games..."Tim_B said:
Maybe they made a value judgment that it's easier to medal in the Commonwealth games than the Olympics.foxinsoxuk said:
Mozambique and Rwanda have both joined the Commonwealth, despite not being in the Empire.SimonStClare said:
I think there are members of the British Commonwealth that were never part of the Empire per se, they just asked to join for the company.RobD said:
Well most former Empire countries are in the Commonwealth, so it isn't totally wrong. I'm sure Sunil can let us know which sorry countries have yet to applyTheScreamingEagles said:God, what a half wit, conflating the Commonwealth with the Empire. From a government whip too.
twitter.com/HeatherWheeler/status/767756321219379201
Re: Wheeler, silly mistake by one who should know better.
It's scary to think that the two biggest sporting events in the world: Olympics and World Cup, are both run by bunches of crooks: the IOC and FIFA.0 -
Human face of the PLP
Tom Blenkinsop @TomBlenkinsop 22h22 hours ago
Corbynites,momentum & the rest of the hard-left,get out of the people's party.0 -
You can fix behavioral problems, as Phelps has done to his credit. Lochte's problem is you can't fix stupid.FrancisUrquhart said:
Phelps got suspended for 6 months for DUI...Tim_B said:
He's apparently been suspended for 6 events. As ESPN said, can anybody name any swim events?SimonStClare said:BBC - Ryan Lochte: Speedo and Ralph Lauren end sponsorship.
I was wondering what punishment would befit Lochte’s behaviour in Rio. His pocket appears to be the first recipient, which seems fitting. And now for the IOC's turn...0 -
Human face of the PLP
Tom Blenkinsop @TomBlenkinsop 22h22 hours ago
Corbynites,momentum & the rest of the hard-left,get out of the people's party
Owen Jones @OwenJones84 11h11 hours ago
The only thing that needs to get out of the people's party is this attitude
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What an idiot Owen Jones is.0 -
Cheers Dr Fox, I knew I’d read something about it. – Makes perfect sense for Mozambique and Rwanda to do so as there are many African nations already involved and they get a chance to meet other Leaders (while chaperoned) - plus they get to meet HMG.foxinsoxuk said:
Mozambique and Rwanda have both joined the Commonwealth, despite not being in the Empire.SimonStClare said:
I think there are members of the British Commonwealth that were never part of the Empire per se, they just asked to join for the company.RobD said:
Well most former Empire countries are in the Commonwealth, so it isn't totally wrong. I'm sure Sunil can let us know which sorry countries have yet to applyTheScreamingEagles said:God, what a half wit, conflating the Commonwealth with the Empire. From a government whip too.
twitter.com/HeatherWheeler/status/767756321219379201
Re: Wheeler, silly mistake by one who should know better.
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I remember accidentally seeing the reality show they did with him....stupid is a very kind way of putting it....its a good job swimming pools are straight and have defined lanes otherwise he is sure to get lost.Tim_B said:
You can fix behavioral problems, as Phelps has done to his credit. Lochte's problem is you can't fix stupid.FrancisUrquhart said:
Phelps got suspended for 6 months for DUI...Tim_B said:
He's apparently been suspended for 6 events. As ESPN said, can anybody name any swim events?SimonStClare said:BBC - Ryan Lochte: Speedo and Ralph Lauren end sponsorship.
I was wondering what punishment would befit Lochte’s behaviour in Rio. His pocket appears to be the first recipient, which seems fitting. And now for the IOC's turn...-1
