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I agree with that last sentence wholeheartedly.MTimT said:
Ah, there's part of the difference. While I like pottering in my kitchen garden and love the sea, I prefer to limit my time in the sun (for very sound family medical reasons), and suspect I enjoy my time in the kitchen as much as you do yours gardening or by the sea.Cyclefree said:
Prosciutto is included in mortadella. Gelato is nice but not a "must have". Truffles: bah! Tagliatelli ai funghi are nice. I also like a good risotto and osso buco and I absolutely adore calves' brains, which were a regular in my childhood. Vitello tonnato and, indeed, veal of any kind is nice and I am partial to offal generally. Mussels, sea bass and pasta alle vongole and pasta soups with lentils, peas, beans, artichokes are also nice. My mother's meat loaf is unsurpassable.MTimT said:
What, no truffles? No tagliatelle al fungi? No prosciutto? No gelato? What an ascetic you are!Cyclefree said:
Oh dear.......Charles said:
In Socal they refer to pineapple and ham pizza as a "sweet pig" and it works really rather well...Cyclefree said:
Well, obviously. That sounds quite disgusting: never eat pizza outside of Naples. Pizza should have nothing but tomatoes, oregano, olive oil and mozzarella. Olives and basil if you must. San Marzano tomatoes and really fresh mozzarella from Battipaglia are one of life's great glories.MaxPB said:AlastairMeeks said:
Pineapple and ham and tuna and eggs just mark you out as a barbarian, fit only for Dominos.
Polenta should be used like couscous: as a base for more delicious flavours and as a way of providing bulk.
I am not in fact a great pizza lover but I do have it when I am in Naples. Once or twice a year there will do me. Everything else that passes for it is an abomination, as far as I'm concerned.
I could quite happily live on nothing but pasta al pomodoro, mozzarella, tomatoes, arancini di riso, mortadella, lemons and panettone at Xmas for the rest of my life.............
But if I were paring it down and trying to minimize cooking time so I could spend more time in the sea or in the garden or generally on the terrace, a glass of limoncello or good wine in hand, that's what I would choose.
Still, if anyone wants to invite me to lunch/dinner where the other foods are on the menu..................
Even so, simple dishes are very often the best.
I spend so much time indoors, necessarily, that I crave the outdoors for my free time. I will happily garden in driving rain, if need be.
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How imagine Brownlee brother watching the rugby league....Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Urquhart, that Volvo anecdote's rather good.
Miss Plato, the provision of olives was a factor when considering where to found Greek cities.
One of them (maybe Byzantium) was described as perfect in all regards, excepting the lack of olives.
Edited extra bit: anyway, must be off.
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It's funny, I always cry out Mensch when there's a really annoying woman spouting shit on the TV.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. StClare, must confess I don't know what that means.
Schade. Or "Mensch!" as my German teacher would mutter whenever we got something obvious wrong.0 -
My big brother became a chef after experimenting with all sorts of horrors in our kitchen as a ween. I thought going to primary school covered in food colouring and smelling of marzipan was normal.MaxPB said:
Everyone has to start somewhere! When it was me I was in my parent's kitchen making an awful mess. Now I'm in my own kitchen making less of a mess and with the right tools to bake a pizza in 160 seconds, the best ovens do them in 90, but unfortunately I don't have a garden in which to build a wood fired oven.FeersumEnjineeya said:
My lad and his mate are making pizza down in the kitchen (it's raining, and they're finally bored with video games) even as a I write here in my office. The results may or may not be edible, but the kitchen will most definitely look like a tomato bomb detonation in a flour mill.MaxPB said:
Might I recommend Franco Manca. I'm quite the pizza snob and generally only eat my own pizzas, but I do enjoy FM. Wouldn't go out for pizza anywhere else in London.Cyclefree said:
Oh dear.......Charles said:
In Socal they refer to pineapple and ham pizza as a "sweet pig" and it works really rather well...Cyclefree said:
snipMaxPB said:
My gf made me try a polenta pizza in Milan recently. It felt like a wasted meal, literally no taste.AlastairMeeks said:The Italians managed to turn polenta into a trendy food. If they can do that with something that tastes like heated MDF, anything is possible.
I am not in fact a great pizza lover but I do have it when I am in Naples. Once or twice a year there will do me. Everything else that passes for it is an abomination, as far as I'm concerned.
I could quite happily live on nothing but pasta al pomodoro, mozzarella, tomatoes, arancini di riso, mortadella, lemons and panettone at Xmas for the rest of my life.............
My parents owned a 150 cover place in the 70s and I'm amazed a) that I survived my mum's fondness for whipped cream b) the Galloping Gourmet style food c) the bugs and rats that lived side by side with us. Gordon Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares have nothing on us. No wonder my constitution is bombproof. I've seen fish fillets moving... and cuddly desserts.
I love going to restaurants and trying to retro-engineer what I've eaten. Nevertheless.0 -
Seems a bit of shame how many of Team GB have already fled Rio. I don't blame them, but the closing ceremony could be a down to couple of poor sods who are only there because they missed their flights.0
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I would be very surprised if a philosophy course were much use in training people to write a business case for computer equipment!FF43 said:
I m going to make a plea for a (short) course in philosophy. People in this country don't know how to turn out an argument. Say a staff member wants a new piece of equipment. They will attempt to justify it with facts - how much it costs; how many gigabytes it has; what connections it has etc. But they won't attempt to persuade on the benefits: I can save this amount of time; it takes the stress out of my job and you get a happier employee; it allows us to provide a more reliable service - or whateverDecrepitJohnL said:
Neither. Foreigners invariably speak English, and frankly we are so appalling at teaching foreign languages that anyone who wants to learn one should just go and live abroad for six months, if that is still allowed after Brexit. And though most jobs use computers, very few need program them.TheScreamingEagles said:YouGov have asked me a very interesting question.
The number of pupils studying foreign languages at A Level has now reached a record low. If you were 16 today and had to choose, would you learn a foreign language or a computer programming language?
Foreign language
or
Computer programming language
I'm someone who is fluent in several languages, and I love learning different languages, I reckon if forced, I'd go for the computing programming course.
What do other PBers think?
Spreadsheets. That's what the kids need to learn. The misuse and abuse of spreadsheets is rife and people need to have at least the basics. Accountants might use them to tot up cash balances but for everyone else they are used for tables, project-planning, ad hoc databases and probably even pictures of cats. It is all wrong but spreadsheets are ubiquitous.0 -
That's a huge division then, almost half a constituency. Kent remains awful for Labour.JohnO said:
OK, yes, then low!david_herdson said:
It was 16.38%, according to Vote UK.JohnO said:
On the face of it, that looks like a pretty respectable turnout even for a County Division.david_herdson said:
Proper election too, not some Town Council nothingness. The actual numbers are Con 1758 / Lab 1538 / UKIP 1272.AramintaMoonbeamQC said:Gravesham East (Kent) result:
CON: 36.0% (+8.4)
LAB: 31.5% (-4.8)
UKIP: 26.0% (+2.8)
GRN: 4.3% (+4.3)
LDEM: 2.3% (-1.5)
It was a very low turnout but even so, poor result for Labour in the sort of seat they need to be winning to form a government.0 -
Did Sheridan set fire to the curtains in a hotel room or was that some other bod ?0
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They do use Mr when a player loses a challenge.Sandpit said:
Is it the same reason the Wimledon umpires refer to Nadal and Federer, but to Miss Williams and Mrs Henin?Philip_Thompson said:Linguistic/gender point but in the thread title it says "Mrs. May's ..." which is quite formal. Normally Cameron, Brown, Blair etc are referred to as such and without the formal Mr. in front of their name.
Maybe a subconscious issue or maybe I've just not noticed it in the past but why refer to her title but not others? Is it because she's new, a woman, or has a name that is a also month (though having a name that is a colour didn't seem to be an issue when referring to Brown).
Which means that Murray shouldn't be knighted until he retires.
Can you imagine "Sir Andrew has no challenges remaining"?0 -
That was Mike Watson.Pulpstar said:Did Sheridan set fire to the curtains in a hotel room or was that some other bod ?
It was the ALLEGED extra marital activity with TS.0 -
Just adding the PSF data to my models. Unbelievably we seem to have a real cut in spending. YTD current expenditure id £222.5bn, last year that was £222.8bn, with a rise of £0.4bn in interest payments. I'm astonished. Didn't think it would ever happen, Osborne's austerity finally materialised and now he's not even there to take the credit.0
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Whiston Council on Merseyside. Labour hold by 2 votes from Lib Dems.0
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Won't be Byzantium: no natural freshwater source, I think?Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Urquhart, that Volvo anecdote's rather good.
Miss Plato, the provision of olives was a factor when considering where to found Greek cities.
One of them (maybe Byzantium) was described as perfect in all regards, excepting the lack of olives.
Edited extra bit: anyway, must be off.0 -
But at least they would be able to use the phrase 'beg the question' correctly and know the difference between 'compare' and 'contrast'.IanB2 said:
I would be very surprised if a philosophy course were much use in training people to write a business case for computer equipment!FF43 said:
I m going to make a plea for a (short) course in philosophy. People in this country don't know how to turn out an argument. Say a staff member wants a new piece of equipment. They will attempt to justify it with facts - how much it costs; how many gigabytes it has; what connections it has etc. But they won't attempt to persuade on the benefits: I can save this amount of time; it takes the stress out of my job and you get a happier employee; it allows us to provide a more reliable service - or whateverDecrepitJohnL said:
Neither. Foreigners invariably speak English, and frankly we are so appalling at teaching foreign languages that anyone who wants to learn one should just go and live abroad for six months, if that is still allowed after Brexit. And though most jobs use computers, very few need program them.TheScreamingEagles said:YouGov have asked me a very interesting question.
The number of pupils studying foreign languages at A Level has now reached a record low. If you were 16 today and had to choose, would you learn a foreign language or a computer programming language?
Foreign language
or
Computer programming language
I'm someone who is fluent in several languages, and I love learning different languages, I reckon if forced, I'd go for the computing programming course.
What do other PBers think?
Spreadsheets. That's what the kids need to learn. The misuse and abuse of spreadsheets is rife and people need to have at least the basics. Accountants might use them to tot up cash balances but for everyone else they are used for tables, project-planning, ad hoc databases and probably even pictures of cats. It is all wrong but spreadsheets are ubiquitous.0 -
That's excellent.Casino_Royale said:0 -
I didn't know the police were so powerful:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-37131460
If you're a man just say no to anhy S&M lest it comes back to bite you on the bum.......0 -
Wow, an actual quarterly spending cut! Must be news to those who think we've had six years of cuts, but good to see it finally happening.MaxPB said:Just adding the PSF data to my models. Unbelievably we seem to have a real cut in spending. YTD current expenditure id £222.5bn, last year that was £222.8bn, with a rise of £0.4bn in interest payments. I'm astonished. Didn't think it would ever happen, Osborne's austerity finally materialised and now he's not even there to take the credit.
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There are a few interesting data points to take from the PSF, income tax take is up better in July than it has been YTD, not usually the sign of a faltering economy. Corporation tax is finally rising after years if stagnation due to falling rates, Osborne's gambit has worked IMO, the "expert" predictions of falling receipts with falling rates were well wide of the mark in the end and we should now collect a record amount of corporation tax this year.
Overall having seen the data, I'm much more positive that we're looking at 0.2-0.3% growth for the current quarter, maybe even a bit higher. If there was a marked slowdown it would have begun seeping into the financial data, it just isn't there.0 -
2 Wimbledons, one other major, and 2 Olympic golds, he doesn't deserve a Knighthood now, he deserves a Dukedom.ThreeQuidder said:
They do use Mr when a player loses a challenge.Sandpit said:
Is it the same reason the Wimledon umpires refer to Nadal and Federer, but to Miss Williams and Mrs Henin?Philip_Thompson said:Linguistic/gender point but in the thread title it says "Mrs. May's ..." which is quite formal. Normally Cameron, Brown, Blair etc are referred to as such and without the formal Mr. in front of their name.
Maybe a subconscious issue or maybe I've just not noticed it in the past but why refer to her title but not others? Is it because she's new, a woman, or has a name that is a also month (though having a name that is a colour didn't seem to be an issue when referring to Brown).
Which means that Murray shouldn't be knighted until he retires.
Can you imagine "Sir Andrew has no challenges remaining"?
Somebody tell Prince Charles he's losing the Duke of Rothesay title to Andy Murray.
The Duke of Rothesay has no challenges remaining sounds so much better and elegant0 -
When will the next GE be held? Maybe May? May may think that is the right time to call it.
Maybe we should just call her Tezza.0 -
Well thirdly, given that it's four months worth of data! Still good news though. The underlying financial position of the government is a lot better than people realise. I'm not going to call it a golden legacy since it tool Osborne 6 years to have the balls to cut spending, but he leaves the public purse in a stronger position than what he inherited. Far stronger.Sandpit said:
Wow, an actual quarterly spending cut! Must be news to those who think we've had six years of cuts, but good to see it finally happening.MaxPB said:Just adding the PSF data to my models. Unbelievably we seem to have a real cut in spending. YTD current expenditure id £222.5bn, last year that was £222.8bn, with a rise of £0.4bn in interest payments. I'm astonished. Didn't think it would ever happen, Osborne's austerity finally materialised and now he's not even there to take the credit.
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Love this medals by population table from the Sydney Morning Herald which shows them ahead of the GB on the total medals and just one behind on the Golds/10 million population.
Do they really, really want to go there, just to show that they are competitive with those WPBs? Because all it does is show how much better than them the Kiwis are ...
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/olympics/rio-2016/rio-olympics-2016-where-australia-sits-in-the-real-medal-count-20160819-gqwbbd.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=nc&eid=socialn:twi-13omn1677-edtrl-other:nnn-17/02/2014-edtrs_socialshare-all-nnn-nnn-vars-o&sa=D&usg=ALhdy28zsr6qiq0 -
For the next government to call a second referendum on the EU would be... Acceptable: 34% Unacceptable: 56% (via YouGov)0
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When a country/team starts making table adjustments to justify poor performance it's a bad sign. Australia sent a huge and well funded team, they just weren't at the races.MTimT said:Love this medals by population table from the Sydney Morning Herald which shows them ahead of the GB on the total medals and just one behind on the Golds/10 million population.
Do they really, really want to go there, just to show that they are competitive with those WPBs? Because all it does is show how much better than them the Kiwis are ...
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/olympics/rio-2016/rio-olympics-2016-where-australia-sits-in-the-real-medal-count-20160819-gqwbbd.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=nc&eid=socialn:twi-13omn1677-edtrl-other:nnn-17/02/2014-edtrs_socialshare-all-nnn-nnn-vars-o&sa=D&usg=ALhdy28zsr6qiq0 -
For those interested in the China v GB (and NI) medal battle, this is an interesting piece of analysis:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/37085511
Whilst some of our press coverage has positioned our improvement as a reaction to the poor performance in Atlanta, the historical medal table graph clearly shows that Atlanta was for some reason (?) an exceptionally low outlier; otherwise we have been working our way up the medal table for a long time, with a significant boost after London was awarded the Games in 2005.0 -
If she calls an election in May, particularly if she isn't popular at the time, "May Day" should be a slam dunk for any headline writer.SandyRentool said:When will the next GE be held? Maybe May? May may think that is the right time to call it.
Maybe we should just call her Tezza.
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Tessie M and her Westminster Crew?SandyRentool said:When will the next GE be held? Maybe May? May may think that is the right time to call it.
Maybe we should just call her Tezza.0 -
It’s just a bit of fun, but does show how countries with small populations often punch well above their weight. – Of course the only table that counts for anything is the one with HMQ as Head of State.MTimT said:Love this medals by population table from the Sydney Morning Herald which shows them ahead of the GB on the total medals and just one behind on the Golds/10 million population.
Do they really, really want to go there, just to show that they are competitive with those WPBs? Because all it does is show how much better than them the Kiwis are ...
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It would not surprise me if someone at some point correlated our decline and subsequent improvement in performance with levels of national pride post-Empire. I know that during the 70s patriotism in the UK was a dirty word, and winning simply was not expected (save in football, which perennially failed to deliver like clockwork). It strikes me that those attitudes have waned.IanB2 said:For those interested in the China v GB (and NI) medal battle, this is an interesting piece of analysis:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/37085511
Whilst some of our press coverage has positioned our improvement as a reaction to the poor performance in Atlanta, the historical medal table graph clearly shows that Atlanta was for some reason (?) an exceptionally low outlier; otherwise we have been working our way up the medal table for a long time, with a significant boost after London was awarded the Games in 2005.0 -
Just give him one of the currently extinct ones. Duke of Albemarle would provide a delightful WTF reaction in the French OpenTheScreamingEagles said:
2 Wimbledons, one other major, and 2 Olympic golds, he doesn't deserve a Knighthood now, he deserves a Dukedom.ThreeQuidder said:
They do use Mr when a player loses a challenge.Sandpit said:
Is it the same reason the Wimledon umpires refer to Nadal and Federer, but to Miss Williams and Mrs Henin?Philip_Thompson said:Linguistic/gender point but in the thread title it says "Mrs. May's ..." which is quite formal. Normally Cameron, Brown, Blair etc are referred to as such and without the formal Mr. in front of their name.
Maybe a subconscious issue or maybe I've just not noticed it in the past but why refer to her title but not others? Is it because she's new, a woman, or has a name that is a also month (though having a name that is a colour didn't seem to be an issue when referring to Brown).
Which means that Murray shouldn't be knighted until he retires.
Can you imagine "Sir Andrew has no challenges remaining"?
Somebody tell Prince Charles he's losing the Duke of Rothesay title to Andy Murray.
The Duke of Rothesay has no challenges remaining sounds so much better and elegant0 -
oh and he has to represent himself aswell due to not being able to claim universal credit, he has no hope.nunu said:I didn't know the police were so powerful:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-37131460
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Indeed. And the straightforward medals by population is wrongheaded too.MaxPB said:
When a country/team starts making table adjustments to justify poor performance it's a bad sign. Australia sent a huge and well funded team, they just weren't at the races.MTimT said:Love this medals by population table from the Sydney Morning Herald which shows them ahead of the GB on the total medals and just one behind on the Golds/10 million population.
Do they really, really want to go there, just to show that they are competitive with those WPBs? Because all it does is show how much better than them the Kiwis are ...
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/olympics/rio-2016/rio-olympics-2016-where-australia-sits-in-the-real-medal-count-20160819-gqwbbd.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=nc&eid=socialn:twi-13omn1677-edtrl-other:nnn-17/02/2014-edtrs_socialshare-all-nnn-nnn-vars-o&sa=D&usg=ALhdy28zsr6qiq
Take the EU vs the US for example. The US gets 3 representatives in a sport, the EU up to 78. The chances of misfortune suppressing expected US medal performances far outweighs that of the greater number of EU performers, just as the chance of an unexpectedly good performance from one or more of the EU's greater number of representatives far outweighs the chance of the US'.0 -
There was a clear inflection point somewhere in the 70s which help Britain rediscover its place in the world. I wonder what it could be...MTimT said:
It would not surprise me if someone at some point correlated our decline and subsequent improvement in performance with levels of national pride post-Empire. I know that during the 70s patriotism in the UK was a dirty word, and winning simply was not expected (save in football, which perennially failed to deliver like clockwork). It strikes me that those attitudes have waned.IanB2 said:For those interested in the China v GB (and NI) medal battle, this is an interesting piece of analysis:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/37085511
Whilst some of our press coverage has positioned our improvement as a reaction to the poor performance in Atlanta, the historical medal table graph clearly shows that Atlanta was for some reason (?) an exceptionally low outlier; otherwise we have been working our way up the medal table for a long time, with a significant boost after London was awarded the Games in 2005.0 -
Rabbi is stabbed in Strasbourg by a 'Muslim attacker’ who shouted ‘Allahu Akbar'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3748782/Jewish-rabbi-stabbed-Strasbourg-Muslim-attacker.html
and guess what....
"The attacker is believed to have a history of mental health issues. "0 -
Casino_Royale said:
I don't know why people would get so exorcised about some stuff a few numpties say in a secret Facebook group.Charles said:
Isn't that contradictory though?TheScreamingEagles said:I'm shocked by this, shocked I tell you.
Ukip Youth Group Trade Islamophobic, Anti-Semitic And Homophobic Slurs In Secret Facebook Group
‘Some of the most racist, hurtful and pathetic comments I have ever seen.’
http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/uk_57b5db59e4b026af7c4cf56a
I mean if they are "pathetic" why are they "hurtful"? Unless you are a whining jessie
Well, actually I do, but that makes it even worse: I could get annoyed by the left wing vapid bilge some of my friends post publicly, pretty much on a daily basis, but life is too short.0 -
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Says the police have ruled out terrorism, and they are probably right to do so. There will surely be more and more attacks by people of one religion on another now we have so many living on close proximity, we cant keep calling it "terrorism" it's just life.FrancisUrquhart said:Rabbi is stabbed in Strasbourg by a 'Muslim attacker’ who shouted ‘Allahu Akbar'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3748782/Jewish-rabbi-stabbed-Strasbourg-Muslim-attacker.html
and guess what....
"The attacker is believed to have a history of mental health issues. "0 -
But does it really? I think what it shows is random chance at work. In a world where talent is randomly distributed among the world's population, some of that talent will be in Vanuatu. If that country wins just one medal, it will by simple maths beat the bigger countries on a medals/population table.SimonStClare said:
but does show how countries with small populations often punch well above their weight.MTimT said:Love this medals by population table from the Sydney Morning Herald which shows them ahead of the GB on the total medals and just one behind on the Golds/10 million population.
Do they really, really want to go there, just to show that they are competitive with those WPBs? Because all it does is show how much better than them the Kiwis are ...
Statistically, there will always be some small countries winning medals, which means that statistically it is highly unlikely that the larger countries would ever be at the top of the medals per head of population table.
PS I do get that it is also just a bit of fun.0 -
I'm in favour of anything that encourages people to write lucid, concise prose.SandyRentool said:
But at least they would be able to use the phrase 'beg the question' correctly and know the difference between 'compare' and 'contrast'.IanB2 said:
I would be very surprised if a philosophy course were much use in training people to write a business case for computer equipment!FF43 said:
I m going to make a plea for a (short) course in philosophy. People in this country don't know how to turn out an argument. Say a staff member wants a new piece of equipment. They will attempt to justify it with facts - how much it costs; how many gigabytes it has; what connections it has etc. But they won't attempt to persuade on the benefits: I can save this amount of time; it takes the stress out of my job and you get a happier employee; it allows us to provide a more reliable service - or whateverDecrepitJohnL said:
Neither. Foreigners invariably speak English, and frankly we are so appalling at teaching foreign languages that anyone who wants to learn one should just go and live abroad for six months, if that is still allowed after Brexit. And though most jobs use computers, very few need program them.TheScreamingEagles said:YouGov have asked me a very interesting question.
The number of pupils studying foreign languages at A Level has now reached a record low. If you were 16 today and had to choose, would you learn a foreign language or a computer programming language?
Foreign language
or
Computer programming language
I'm someone who is fluent in several languages, and I love learning different languages, I reckon if forced, I'd go for the computing programming course.
What do other PBers think?
Spreadsheets. That's what the kids need to learn. The misuse and abuse of spreadsheets is rife and people need to have at least the basics. Accountants might use them to tot up cash balances but for everyone else they are used for tables, project-planning, ad hoc databases and probably even pictures of cats. It is all wrong but spreadsheets are ubiquitous.0 -
May Day for Labour.MontyHall said:
If she calls an election in May, particularly if she isn't popular at the time, "May Day" should be a slam dunk for any headline writer.SandyRentool said:When will the next GE be held? Maybe May? May may think that is the right time to call it.
Maybe we should just call her Tezza.0 -
... and I believe one D Miliband runs something called International Rescue.0
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https://twitter.com/samueltombs/status/766566839073796096?ref_src=twsrc^tfw
More evidence that Sam Tombs is an idiot. The fall in "Taxes on production" all comes from a fall in tobacco duty from £1.21bn to £0.75bn, I very much doubt that had anything to do with Brexit. It's why no one looks too hard a single month's data. Fitting the data to his narrative again, the PSF figures are broadly positive tbh. Without the volatile tobacco duty figure the YoY rise is about 2%, which is in line with the rest of the release.0 -
There are three doors concealing two terrorists and a peaceful citizen. You open the first and see a man known locally as Dave with a few mental health issues reciting the Quran. Do you switch?MontyHall said:
Says the police have ruled out terrorism, and they are probably right to do so. There will surely be more and more attacks by people of one religion on another now we have so many living on close proximity, we cant keep calling it "terrorism" it's just life.FrancisUrquhart said:Rabbi is stabbed in Strasbourg by a 'Muslim attacker’ who shouted ‘Allahu Akbar'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3748782/Jewish-rabbi-stabbed-Strasbourg-Muslim-attacker.html
and guess what....
"The attacker is believed to have a history of mental health issues. "0 -
May may win May.rottenborough said:
May Day for Labour.MontyHall said:
If she calls an election in May, particularly if she isn't popular at the time, "May Day" should be a slam dunk for any headline writer.SandyRentool said:When will the next GE be held? Maybe May? May may think that is the right time to call it.
Maybe we should just call her Tezza.0 -
williamglenn said:
There are three doors concealing two terrorists and a peaceful citizen. You open the first and see a man known locally as Dave with a few mental health issues reciting the Quran. Do you switch?MontyHall said:
Says the police have ruled out terrorism, and they are probably right to do so. There will surely be more and more attacks by people of one religion on another now we have so many living on close proximity, we cant keep calling it "terrorism" it's just life.FrancisUrquhart said:Rabbi is stabbed in Strasbourg by a 'Muslim attacker’ who shouted ‘Allahu Akbar'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3748782/Jewish-rabbi-stabbed-Strasbourg-Muslim-attacker.html
and guess what....
"The attacker is believed to have a history of mental health issues. "
Exactly the sort of sentimental-bollox free comment that makes PB unique.0 -
Well, she's gone up considerably in my estimation:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/19/amber-heard-to-donate-entire-johnny-depp-divorce-settlement-to-c/0 -
I like this response:TheScreamingEagles said:Why I love George Osborne
https://twitter.com/George_Osborne/status/766578753304571904
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The election of Mrs Thatcher?williamglenn said:
There was a clear inflection point somewhere in the 70s which help Britain rediscover its place in the world. I wonder what it could be...MTimT said:
It would not surprise me if someone at some point correlated our decline and subsequent improvement in performance with levels of national pride post-Empire. I know that during the 70s patriotism in the UK was a dirty word, and winning simply was not expected (save in football, which perennially failed to deliver like clockwork). It strikes me that those attitudes have waned.IanB2 said:For those interested in the China v GB (and NI) medal battle, this is an interesting piece of analysis:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/37085511
Whilst some of our press coverage has positioned our improvement as a reaction to the poor performance in Atlanta, the historical medal table graph clearly shows that Atlanta was for some reason (?) an exceptionally low outlier; otherwise we have been working our way up the medal table for a long time, with a significant boost after London was awarded the Games in 2005.
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The number of medals each country wins is somewhat correlated to the amount of money that country spends on developing potential medal winning athletes. Small wealthy countries such as those in the EU probably spend more per head of population than large wealthy countries.MTimT said:
But does it really? I think what it shows is random chance at work. In a world where talent is randomly distributed among the world's population, some of that talent will be in Vanuatu. If that country wins just one medal, it will by simple maths beat the bigger countries on a medals/population table.SimonStClare said:
but does show how countries with small populations often punch well above their weight.MTimT said:Love this medals by population table from the Sydney Morning Herald which shows them ahead of the GB on the total medals and just one behind on the Golds/10 million population.
Do they really, really want to go there, just to show that they are competitive with those WPBs? Because all it does is show how much better than them the Kiwis are ...
Statistically, there will always be some small countries winning medals, which means that statistically it is highly unlikely that the larger countries would ever be at the top of the medals per head of population table.
PS I do get that it is also just a bit of fun.
I believe the USA and the UK and spend roughly the same amount of money on Olympic training. I am guessing the quality of the operations is also about the same. The USA wins more medals than the UK because it has a larger pool of top class athletes to call on. The UK wins more medals per head of population but fewer medals per dollar spent, compared with the USA.0 -
Such blurred lines nowadays its tricky to define either way really. I don't think we can say every attack by a muslim shouting muslim stuff is "terrorism" though can we? Religious hatred maybe a better term.williamglenn said:
There are three doors concealing two terrorists and a peaceful citizen. You open the first and see a man known locally as Dave with a few mental health issues reciting the Quran. Do you switch?MontyHall said:
Says the police have ruled out terrorism, and they are probably right to do so. There will surely be more and more attacks by people of one religion on another now we have so many living on close proximity, we cant keep calling it "terrorism" it's just life.FrancisUrquhart said:Rabbi is stabbed in Strasbourg by a 'Muslim attacker’ who shouted ‘Allahu Akbar'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3748782/Jewish-rabbi-stabbed-Strasbourg-Muslim-attacker.html
and guess what....
"The attacker is believed to have a history of mental health issues. "
Calling it terrorism when its lone wolf seems over the top, plus it gives apologists the chance to pretend its nothing to worry about by lefty style mocking attempts at ironic humour0 -
We could call them hate crimes, perhaps.MontyHall said:
Says the police have ruled out terrorism, and they are probably right to do so. There will surely be more and more attacks by people of one religion on another now we have so many living on close proximity, we cant keep calling it "terrorism" it's just life.FrancisUrquhart said:Rabbi is stabbed in Strasbourg by a 'Muslim attacker’ who shouted ‘Allahu Akbar'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3748782/Jewish-rabbi-stabbed-Strasbourg-Muslim-attacker.html
and guess what....
"The attacker is believed to have a history of mental health issues. "
But really your reasoning is suspect: we have had people of different religions living in close proximity for some considerable time. If there is an increase in attacks by religious people on other religious groups perhaps we might want to see whether there are any patterns e.g. which religions are targeted and whether there might be other reasons for such crimes other than mere proximity.
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PBers, don't miss out on your chance to get a newly-minted Corbyn emojis!
All you need to do is check whether you can vote for Jezza:
http://votecheck.jeremyforlabour.com/
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Lone nutters stabbing one another person probably isn't terrorism...but I think there is a difference where there has been a clear ISIS / AQ inspiration to the attack compared to a "general" hate crime.
None of which is necessarily clear cut. But it does seem that the authorities standard line now is always nutter, not terrorism, case closed.0 -
I reached puberty. It's the only logical explanation. In fact, the UK has grown wealthier and healthier ever since I was born. No, it's OK, you're all welcome, I don't do it for the thanks.Cyclefree said:
The election of Mrs Thatcher?williamglenn said:
There was a clear inflection point somewhere in the 70s which help Britain rediscover its place in the world. I wonder what it could be...MTimT said:
It would not surprise me if someone at some point correlated our decline and subsequent improvement in performance with levels of national pride post-Empire. I know that during the 70s patriotism in the UK was a dirty word, and winning simply was not expected (save in football, which perennially failed to deliver like clockwork). It strikes me that those attitudes have waned.IanB2 said:For those interested in the China v GB (and NI) medal battle, this is an interesting piece of analysis:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/37085511
Whilst some of our press coverage has positioned our improvement as a reaction to the poor performance in Atlanta, the historical medal table graph clearly shows that Atlanta was for some reason (?) an exceptionally low outlier; otherwise we have been working our way up the medal table for a long time, with a significant boost after London was awarded the Games in 2005.0 -
I remember the Lee Rigby killers were charged simply with murder, rather than anything terrorist related.MontyHall said:
Such blurred lines nowadays its tricky to define either way really. I don't think we can say every attack by a muslim shouting muslim stuff is "terrorism" though can we? Religious hatred maybe a better term.williamglenn said:
There are three doors concealing two terrorists and a peaceful citizen. You open the first and see a man known locally as Dave with a few mental health issues reciting the Quran. Do you switch?MontyHall said:
Says the police have ruled out terrorism, and they are probably right to do so. There will surely be more and more attacks by people of one religion on another now we have so many living on close proximity, we cant keep calling it "terrorism" it's just life.FrancisUrquhart said:Rabbi is stabbed in Strasbourg by a 'Muslim attacker’ who shouted ‘Allahu Akbar'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3748782/Jewish-rabbi-stabbed-Strasbourg-Muslim-attacker.html
and guess what....
"The attacker is believed to have a history of mental health issues. "
Calling it terrorism when its lone wolf seems over the top, plus it gives apologists the chance to pretend its nothing to worry about by lefty style mocking attempts at ironic humour
Meant that the trial was quick and factual, didn't go into the 'why' - which would have served no purpose except to give the morons more time to spout their bile in court. A good decision for one off 'events' like that.0 -
It may well not be terrorism but if one particular group is targeted then for them it will feel as if they are the target for a sort of low level terror, if they have to be worried about being out in public while wearing items denoting their religion or if they are worried about security at schools or places of worship etc. And we should be concerned if that is happening.MontyHall said:
Such blurred lines nowadays its tricky to define either way really. I don't think we can say every attack by a muslim shouting muslim stuff is "terrorism" though can we? Religious hatred maybe a better term.williamglenn said:
There are three doors concealing two terrorists and a peaceful citizen. You open the first and see a man known locally as Dave with a few mental health issues reciting the Quran. Do you switch?MontyHall said:
Says the police have ruled out terrorism, and they are probably right to do so. There will surely be more and more attacks by people of one religion on another now we have so many living on close proximity, we cant keep calling it "terrorism" it's just life.FrancisUrquhart said:Rabbi is stabbed in Strasbourg by a 'Muslim attacker’ who shouted ‘Allahu Akbar'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3748782/Jewish-rabbi-stabbed-Strasbourg-Muslim-attacker.html
and guess what....
"The attacker is believed to have a history of mental health issues. "
Calling it terrorism when its lone wolf seems over the top, plus it gives apologists the chance to pretend its nothing to worry about by lefty style mocking attempts at ironic humour
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Look good on the stats....# of terrorist related attacked = 0, winning.SeanT said:
That's great. Now we can rule out terrorism before the attacks even happen. I hereby predict the next seventeen terror attacks will not be terror, they'll just be something to do with people of one religion living in "close proximity" to people of another religion and occasionally attacking them.MontyHall said:
Says the police have ruled out terrorism, and they are probably right to do so. There will surely be more and more attacks by people of one religion on another now we have so many living on close proximity, we cant keep calling it "terrorism" it's just life.FrancisUrquhart said:Rabbi is stabbed in Strasbourg by a 'Muslim attacker’ who shouted ‘Allahu Akbar'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3748782/Jewish-rabbi-stabbed-Strasbourg-Muslim-attacker.html
and guess what....
"The attacker is believed to have a history of mental health issues. "
Even better, we can say that the era of terrorism is over, because we can and must call it something else. Hooray!
Liberal Fuckwittery Cubed.0 -
We will fight them on the bar-charts in the best tradition of Liberal Democracy.FrancisUrquhart said:
Look good on the stats....# of terrorist related attacked = 0, winning.SeanT said:
That's great. Now we can rule out terrorism before the attacks even happen. I hereby predict the next seventeen terror attacks will not be terror, they'll just be something to do with people of one religion living in "close proximity" to people of another religion and occasionally attacking them.MontyHall said:
Says the police have ruled out terrorism, and they are probably right to do so. There will surely be more and more attacks by people of one religion on another now we have so many living on close proximity, we cant keep calling it "terrorism" it's just life.FrancisUrquhart said:Rabbi is stabbed in Strasbourg by a 'Muslim attacker’ who shouted ‘Allahu Akbar'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3748782/Jewish-rabbi-stabbed-Strasbourg-Muslim-attacker.html
and guess what....
"The attacker is believed to have a history of mental health issues. "
Even better, we can say that the era of terrorism is over, because we can and must call it something else. Hooray!
Liberal Fuckwittery Cubed.0 -
I think you are misunderstanding where I am coming from, I certainly am not pretending all is well, far from it. I think the fact that it is not terrorism makes it far worse for western societySeanT said:
That's great. Now we can rule out terrorism before the attacks even happen. I hereby predict the next seventeen terror attacks will not be terror, they'll just be something to do with people of one religion living in "close proximity" to people of another religion and occasionally attacking them.MontyHall said:
Says the police have ruled out terrorism, and they are probably right to do so. There will surely be more and more attacks by people of one religion on another now we have so many living on close proximity, we cant keep calling it "terrorism" it's just life.FrancisUrquhart said:Rabbi is stabbed in Strasbourg by a 'Muslim attacker’ who shouted ‘Allahu Akbar'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3748782/Jewish-rabbi-stabbed-Strasbourg-Muslim-attacker.html
and guess what....
"The attacker is believed to have a history of mental health issues. "
Even better, we can say that the era of terrorism is over, because we can and must call it something else. Hooray!
Liberal Fuckwittery Cubed.0 -
williamglenn said:
We will fight them on the bar-charts in the best tradition of Liberal Democracy.FrancisUrquhart said:
Look good on the stats....# of terrorist related attacked = 0, winning.SeanT said:
That's great. Now we can rule out terrorism before the attacks even happen. I hereby predict the next seventeen terror attacks will not be terror, they'll just be something to do with people of one religion living in "close proximity" to people of another religion and occasionally attacking them.MontyHall said:
Says the police have ruled out terrorism, and they are probably right to do so. There will surely be more and more attacks by people of one religion on another now we have so many living on close proximity, we cant keep calling it "terrorism" it's just life.FrancisUrquhart said:Rabbi is stabbed in Strasbourg by a 'Muslim attacker’ who shouted ‘Allahu Akbar'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3748782/Jewish-rabbi-stabbed-Strasbourg-Muslim-attacker.html
and guess what....
"The attacker is believed to have a history of mental health issues. "
Even better, we can say that the era of terrorism is over, because we can and must call it something else. Hooray!
Liberal Fuckwittery Cubed. 0 -
What's wrong with calling it a hate crime or an antisemitic crime if that's what it was?SeanT said:
So we must clearly lie to the people, and indulge in a bizarre and collective act of denial, lest we give lefty comics the chance to fashion some ironic humour?MontyHall said:
Such blurred lines nowadays its tricky to define either way really. I don't think we can say every attack by a muslim shouting muslim stuff is "terrorism" though can we? Religious hatred maybe a better term.williamglenn said:
There are three doors concealing two terrorists and a peaceful citizen. You open the first and see a man known locally as Dave with a few mental health issues reciting the Quran. Do you switch?MontyHall said:
Says the police have ruled out terrorism, and they are probably right to do so. There will surely be more and more attacks by people of one religion on another now we have so many living on close proximity, we cant keep calling it "terrorism" it's just life.FrancisUrquhart said:Rabbi is stabbed in Strasbourg by a 'Muslim attacker’ who shouted ‘Allahu Akbar'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3748782/Jewish-rabbi-stabbed-Strasbourg-Muslim-attacker.html
and guess what....
"The attacker is believed to have a history of mental health issues. "
Calling it terrorism when its lone wolf seems over the top, plus it gives apologists the chance to pretend its nothing to worry about by lefty style mocking attempts at ironic humour
That's the main worry now. Ironic humour from Mark Steel or Bill Bailey. Not terror. No. Bill Bailey.0 -
Appears nothing at all in this weeks results to support a Conservative surge, nothing at all.
Only party receiving increase percentage of varying amounts in almost every piece of action except Gravesham, is the "ineffective and out of the picture" Lib Dems! It is a funny old world.0
